In the practice tests and on Khan academy I've never encountered 2 different options for non-essential clause separation (as demonstrated in question 2). I don't know if this specific question is highly representative of what you might encounter in the SAT (I haven't taken it yet so I might be wrong). Also in question 4 the same idea applies - since the SAT is meant to be an objective test they don't give an option for a semicolon and a period if one of them is right, as they are too similar and often interchangeable (again this is what I've gathered and I might be wrong) TLDR To my understanding you will not encounter a question like question 2 or 4 in the actual SAT, but I might be wrong
I think you're right for the most part, although there definitely are some situations where you could have a semicolon and a period as choices in the same question. I try to create material that challenges people to really know how to use punctuation, so if it's harder than the typical SAT that's probably preparing you better.
@@score-yourcollegecounselorit is not. I believe you can eliminate both answer choices of the period and semicolon if they are presented together in a question as the SAT regards no difference between the two as the difference is subjective and their purpose is same: to separate independent clauses
Hello ! Incredible work, this helps me a lot. Unfortunately, sometimes I struggle with punctuation: for the first question, did we choose the answer with the comma because it is a non-restrictive clause ?
Yeah that's not usually very common on the SAT but there is a difference. Even though they both separate independent clauses, semicolons indicate that the content of the two is linked or about the same idea.
Hi, for question 4 why wouldnt we go for just the colon rather than semi-colon, since the ideas are related. Also for question 5 my teacher said that we can only use colon when we have an independent clause before it, in 5 we just have a word 'commerce'. Please upload a longer video over punctuations, thank you.
The colon's not just to link "related" ideas. It's main role is to explain the previous idea more explicitly. If the subsequent clauses were more specific examples of panic, then I might be inclined to opt for the colon here. Also, colons typically have shorter clauses after, this is a lot of content after a colon.
I wouldn't want to use a colon there just because of how long the rest of the sentence would be. And also, I don't think ALL of the rest of the sentence is defining that idea of panic spreading, and it doesn't really need defining.
@@score-yourcollegecounselorbut semi-colons and Periods have the same function on the Digital SAT.so if they’re both options, neither of the two is the right answer
Basically yes. Parenthesis let you take some shortcuts. You wouldn't say "The Federal Bureau of Investigation, FBI, said that..." For that abbreviation alone, you'd have to use parenthesis. This would be correct: "The Federal Bureau of Investigation, also known as the FBI, said that.."
I am a student from Nigeria and I"ll be writing the SAT in August. I've been doing khan academy for the most part but I struggle on the punctuation and quantitative analysis. Can you recommend exercises I can do to improve on this section?? Is there a website where I can find the following questions? Also the classes you have with those students are they paid for or for free??
So the people IN the class have paid but I did invite a couple of fans from the channel to join for free last time. For punctuation and the quantitative stuff, I think it's helpful to first study all the rules for different punctuation types. That one link I mentioned the punctuation guide is great for that. Quantitative, I've made some new exercises to help with those, and I would also recommend poking around Pew Research Center. That's where I got the charts for my exercises and reading their articles while looking at the charts is a great way to get more comfortable with data.
Colons can be used to define something as well. Normally, they are used after independent clauses, but they don't always have to be. If the purpose of the colon is for definition, then the rules are more flexible. When it's more to give an example or illustrate a point in more detail, that's usually after an independent clause.
Sir in question no4 I am confused a bit about the functioning of semi colon and a period because both of them have same purpose as semi colons are called hybrid commas or periods Then why cant we use a period directly?
You can use a semicolon to connect two independent clauses, and you could also use a period in the same place. So, when should you use a semicolon instead of a period? Generally you would choose the semicolon if there's a clear connection between the two independent clauses. In the 4th example here there's this idea of panic and then the next clauses explain how that panic was demonstrated, so I see the logic in using a semicolon here.
Teacher, I would like to ask a question. When these two markings serve the same purpose, why does sentence 4 employ a semicolon instead of a full stop?
So while you generally won't see questions like that on the SAT, I wanted to discuss the difference a bit here so I added that example. Generally, you could use a semicolon instead of a period for two clauses that are very closely linked in idea or theme, or if you have two ways of saying the same thing. Compare these: Lucuma is a fruit indigenous to (and very popular in) Peru; you can find it in every market nationwide. Lucuma is a fruit indigenous to (and very popular in) Peru. It's commonly used as a flavoring in desserts, although you can still eat it whole. In the first case, I'm still focusing on the idea of it being a fruit you'd find in Peru. In the second case, I'm getting more specific into how it is used. A semicolon wouldn't be as good of a choice in the 2nd case because we're moving on to a different topic.
coudnt understand 4th question. is not there no choice between period and semicolon? they are grammatically equal and correct. then why the answer is not A?
A doesn't work very well here because the first clause doesn't actually need definition, which is what a colon would do. However, the next clauses do provide some additional details related to that panic, so a semi-colon is appropriate as the clauses are thematically connected and are essentially two ways of expressing the same idea. A period would be best if we were moving on to a new idea. While the period/semi-colon options are both grammatically correct, that doesn't mean they're perfectly interchangeable.
Hey I had a question with the first one why not period after the first sentence cuz we don’t really use comma near a preposition and it will be 2 independent clause with option d
Hay just wanted to drop in and let you know that the second question in the Punctuation Questions (set 5) has an error, I think the answer is supposed to be B) said, “A fish is never too small to be admired." but the answer is marked as D) said, ‘A fish is never too small to be admired.’” so... ya...
Hey! Thanks for mentioning that, but actually D is correct on that one. The thing is, it's a "nested quote" or a quote within a quote. The sentence starts with "It's a beauty. As my grandpa always ____ So here, I start the 2nd quote (what grandpa said) with a single ' said, 'A fish is never too small to be admired. And then we close that with a single quote, and then the double quote follows immediately after so actually having 3 quote marks in a row at the end of a sentence is possible in those situations.
Depends on the context. Is however acting as a contrast transition between two sentences, or is it acting as an adverb to modify the first sentence? For example: We don't always go to restaurants, however; my mother's a great cook and she usually makes dinner at home. We don't always go to restaurants; however, we do enjoy a weekly trip to Olive Garden. In the first example, however is just an adverb, it's part of the first sentence. The 2nd sentence explains more. In the 2nd example, however is transitioning so we're going to say something that contradicts the first part.
So while I think you could use a colon here, it's not the best choice. A colon is typically used to give a definition or clarify something that was left vague in the previous clause. Panic spread quickly doesn't really need to be defined.
That's precisely what you use commas for. You don't connect two independent clauses with commas. That's a comma splice. If you have a dependent clause (like this one), it's normal to join it with an independent clause (like this one) using a comma.
Hi! In most of the websites, it is written that when the situation is a dependent clause after an independent clause there is no need for any comma (expect that it is contrast conjunction) however in the 1st question you used a comma between them. Can you please explain why?
In this case, we're not actually using the word "when" to describe the moment when something happens. In that case, you would probably omit the comma. In this case, we're giving another definition or explanation of the previous clause, which would work best with a pause. Also, A is definitely the best answer out of the 4, and sometimes on the SAT the "best" answer won't be the one that follows the rules perfectly, but is closest to it.
Basically yes. However, semicolons are more commonly used when the two independent clauses are closely related or are perhaps two alternate ways of saying the same thing.
No because the 2nd half of that sentence is a dependent clause starting with when. Comma splice is when you join two independent clauses, I am doing that right now with this sentence.
Great question. I should do a whole vid on however. So if you have comma+however, you're adding it to the end of a clause as if you were saying "though". (in most cases) I was hungry. We didn't eat, though. I was hungry. We didn't eat, however. These are the same thing. Semicolon+however means you're using however to contrast the NEXT clause. You would always use a comma after however in this case. I was hungry; however, we didn't eat. Comma+however+colon would be really uncommon but it would be like the first case where you're using however instead of though, but you also want to expand on some unclear detail or give an example. Generally, birds fly. Some can't, however: Penguins are one example. Watch out for comma+however+comma which is used when it's at the start of a clause but right after an adverb. We were really tired. Unfortunately, however, we weren't able to find a place to sleep.
Like there are dozens of articles about it. www.khanacademy.org/test-prep/sat-reading-and-writing/x0d47bcec73eb6c4b:foundations/x0d47bcec73eb6c4b:boundaries/a/grammar-guide-punctuation
Thank you so much for the material, did I miss something there because I can't find a way to cross check my answers for the maths workbook Qs' since all the answers aren't provided, so will you please help me with that?
For the workbook we don't actually have all the answers there since we typically go over those in the classes, we use that workbook as homework. But you can plug in the questions into tools like Wolfram Alpha and get the answers
I honestly don't like the way you stand before the sceeen..( i mean i wish to answer myself ..ill pause the video..and answer myself ) .. however, you're just standing... hindering me from seeing well . Next time pls position yourself well
The idea here is that you would have already gone into my material and then you want to get explanations for the questions. That's why I told everyone what files we were using at the start of the video. I'm trying to show the process here. But I appreciate the feedback and thanks for checking it out
You can use a comma before when if when is starting a dependent clause, which is the case here. We shouldn't join two independent clauses with commas, but here we have an independent clause with a dependent clause, and so it's okay to do that. C wouldn't be a great choice as the em dash replaces parenthesis, commas, or a colon, but a colon isn't really necessary here as the first clause defined metamorphosis to some extent. D also works, but the extra words make it less efficient than A.
It's not common practice. One thing you have to remember about the SAT is that there are questions where the "correct" answer isn't necessarily the "right" or "typical" way to write. Arguably the best way to write this sentence would be without any punctuation at all. But that wasn't a choice in this exercise, and the real test does the exact same thing. You have to know which rules can be bent to an extent. Commas before words like "when" are not common, but can be used in some instances. This is one of those cases (dependent clause after independent clause, optional further elaboration).
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@@Rexor9 lowk i cooked on it. math 2 was smth else tho
I have it in 35 min
In the practice tests and on Khan academy I've never encountered 2 different options for non-essential clause separation (as demonstrated in question 2). I don't know if this specific question is highly representative of what you might encounter in the SAT (I haven't taken it yet so I might be wrong).
Also in question 4 the same idea applies - since the SAT is meant to be an objective test they don't give an option for a semicolon and a period if one of them is right, as they are too similar and often interchangeable (again this is what I've gathered and I might be wrong)
TLDR To my understanding you will not encounter a question like question 2 or 4 in the actual SAT, but I might be wrong
I think you're right for the most part, although there definitely are some situations where you could have a semicolon and a period as choices in the same question. I try to create material that challenges people to really know how to use punctuation, so if it's harder than the typical SAT that's probably preparing you better.
@@score-yourcollegecounselorit is not. I believe you can eliminate both answer choices of the period and semicolon if they are presented together in a question as the SAT regards no difference between the two as the difference is subjective and their purpose is same: to separate independent clauses
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You're underrated! I'm probably about as rated as I should be lol
10 minutes before my practice exam, thank you
Hello ! Incredible work, this helps me a lot. Unfortunately, sometimes I struggle with punctuation: for the first question, did we choose the answer with the comma because it is a non-restrictive clause ?
3:14 why can't u just use a full stop there as well they both serve the same function of separating two independent clauses
yeah yeah
i think the answer is A
I was thinking the same thing. Gotta be A
3:03 option b and d have . And ; but they are having same function. Isn't it like that multiple answers are not given in sat
Yeah that's not usually very common on the SAT but there is a difference. Even though they both separate independent clauses, semicolons indicate that the content of the two is linked or about the same idea.
For the 4th question, the options contain both a period and a semicolon. Arnt they essentially the same, so why would you pick the semicolon
Sentence too short maybe, I just click what sounds right in my head.
he literally said that it would be a commo splice
Shouldn't you always precede a colon with an independent clause?
Hi, for question 4 why wouldnt we go for just the colon rather than semi-colon, since the ideas are related. Also for question 5 my teacher said that we can only use colon when we have an independent clause before it, in 5 we just have a word 'commerce'.
Please upload a longer video over punctuations, thank you.
The colon's not just to link "related" ideas. It's main role is to explain the previous idea more explicitly. If the subsequent clauses were more specific examples of panic, then I might be inclined to opt for the colon here. Also, colons typically have shorter clauses after, this is a lot of content after a colon.
3:17 why not A)?
I wouldn't want to use a colon there just because of how long the rest of the sentence would be. And also, I don't think ALL of the rest of the sentence is defining that idea of panic spreading, and it doesn't really need defining.
@@score-yourcollegecounselorbut semi-colons and Periods have the same function on the Digital SAT.so if they’re both options, neither of the two is the right answer
1:56 so when separating non essential information between commas it should be complete clause?
Basically yes. Parenthesis let you take some shortcuts. You wouldn't say "The Federal Bureau of Investigation, FBI, said that..." For that abbreviation alone, you'd have to use parenthesis.
This would be correct: "The Federal Bureau of Investigation, also known as the FBI, said that.."
I am a student from Nigeria and I"ll be writing the SAT in August. I've been doing khan academy for the most part but I struggle on the punctuation and quantitative analysis. Can you recommend exercises I can do to improve on this section??
Is there a website where I can find the following questions?
Also the classes you have with those students are they paid for or for free??
So the people IN the class have paid but I did invite a couple of fans from the channel to join for free last time.
For punctuation and the quantitative stuff, I think it's helpful to first study all the rules for different punctuation types. That one link I mentioned the punctuation guide is great for that. Quantitative, I've made some new exercises to help with those, and I would also recommend poking around Pew Research Center. That's where I got the charts for my exercises and reading their articles while looking at the charts is a great way to get more comfortable with data.
@@score-yourcollegecounselor Thanks so much sir. Is there any chance you would do another free class maybe for channel fans😅
Use khan academy, I am also taking the SAT in August
How's your score. I took mine at aca ibadan
We cant use comma when dependent clause comes after independent right in 1st ?
yes, right. he made a mistake
But comma can be used after introductory clauses,so it is right.
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Trying out some different things to help out before the May test!
For q5 ive heard there should be an independent clause before s colon so my question is tha commerce is an ind clause?
Colons can be used to define something as well. Normally, they are used after independent clauses, but they don't always have to be. If the purpose of the colon is for definition, then the rules are more flexible.
When it's more to give an example or illustrate a point in more detail, that's usually after an independent clause.
@@score-yourcollegecounselordoes the first case comes in sat or ig its rare
For definitions it is used but generally I've seen it used with more complete clauses before on the test.
Sir in question no4 I am confused a bit about the functioning of semi colon and a period because both of them have same purpose as semi colons are called hybrid commas or periods Then why cant we use a period directly?
You can use a semicolon to connect two independent clauses, and you could also use a period in the same place. So, when should you use a semicolon instead of a period? Generally you would choose the semicolon if there's a clear connection between the two independent clauses. In the 4th example here there's this idea of panic and then the next clauses explain how that panic was demonstrated, so I see the logic in using a semicolon here.
@@score-yourcollegecounselor thank you sir 😃
Doesnt a colon work too? if so, why did you use a semicolon instead of a colon?@@score-yourcollegecounselor
@@score-yourcollegecounselor answer is A, SAT never makes you choose between a semi colon and fullstop, its too subjective.
Teacher, I would like to ask a question. When these two markings serve the same purpose, why does sentence 4 employ a semicolon instead of a full stop?
So while you generally won't see questions like that on the SAT, I wanted to discuss the difference a bit here so I added that example. Generally, you could use a semicolon instead of a period for two clauses that are very closely linked in idea or theme, or if you have two ways of saying the same thing.
Compare these:
Lucuma is a fruit indigenous to (and very popular in) Peru; you can find it in every market nationwide.
Lucuma is a fruit indigenous to (and very popular in) Peru. It's commonly used as a flavoring in desserts, although you can still eat it whole.
In the first case, I'm still focusing on the idea of it being a fruit you'd find in Peru. In the second case, I'm getting more specific into how it is used. A semicolon wouldn't be as good of a choice in the 2nd case because we're moving on to a different topic.
@@score-yourcollegecounselor Thank you so much teacher, I understand!
coudnt understand 4th question. is not there no choice between period and semicolon? they are grammatically equal and correct. then why the answer is not A?
A doesn't work very well here because the first clause doesn't actually need definition, which is what a colon would do. However, the next clauses do provide some additional details related to that panic, so a semi-colon is appropriate as the clauses are thematically connected and are essentially two ways of expressing the same idea. A period would be best if we were moving on to a new idea. While the period/semi-colon options are both grammatically correct, that doesn't mean they're perfectly interchangeable.
Why cant i go with the option D in the second question?
Hey I had a question with the first one why not period after the first sentence cuz we don’t really use comma near a preposition and it will be 2 independent clause with option d
Hay just wanted to drop in and let you know that the second question in the Punctuation Questions (set 5) has an error, I think the answer is supposed to be B) said, “A fish is never too small to be admired." but the answer is marked as D) said, ‘A fish is never too small to be admired.’” so... ya...
Hey! Thanks for mentioning that, but actually D is correct on that one. The thing is, it's a "nested quote" or a quote within a quote. The sentence starts with "It's a beauty. As my grandpa always ____
So here, I start the 2nd quote (what grandpa said) with a single '
said, 'A fish is never too small to be admired.
And then we close that with a single quote, and then the double quote follows immediately after so actually having 3 quote marks in a row at the end of a sentence is possible in those situations.
when I have a choice like antiquity, however; or antiquity; however, How do I know which one to use?
Depends on the context. Is however acting as a contrast transition between two sentences, or is it acting as an adverb to modify the first sentence?
For example:
We don't always go to restaurants, however; my mother's a great cook and she usually makes dinner at home.
We don't always go to restaurants; however, we do enjoy a weekly trip to Olive Garden.
In the first example, however is just an adverb, it's part of the first sentence. The 2nd sentence explains more.
In the 2nd example, however is transitioning so we're going to say something that contradicts the first part.
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Thank you for checking it out, hope it helped you for your test
in 4th question, why is A incorrect ? Can't we join 2 indp. clauses with (:) that kinda relate in theme ?
So while I think you could use a colon here, it's not the best choice. A colon is typically used to give a definition or clarify something that was left vague in the previous clause. Panic spread quickly doesn't really need to be defined.
@@score-yourcollegecounselor Thanks
isn't B and D practically same in the question 4?
They are pretty similar. I think the connection between the panic and the next clauses justifies the semicolon more.
For number 1 aren’t we combining an independent clause with a dependent clause with a coma which is not allowed
That's precisely what you use commas for. You don't connect two independent clauses with commas. That's a comma splice. If you have a dependent clause (like this one), it's normal to join it with an independent clause (like this one) using a comma.
@@score-yourcollegecounselor oh thanks for the help I didn’t know 🙏
Hi! In most of the websites, it is written that when the situation is a dependent clause after an independent clause there is no need for any comma (expect that it is contrast conjunction) however in the 1st question you used a comma between them. Can you please explain why?
In this case, we're not actually using the word "when" to describe the moment when something happens. In that case, you would probably omit the comma.
In this case, we're giving another definition or explanation of the previous clause, which would work best with a pause.
Also, A is definitely the best answer out of the 4, and sometimes on the SAT the "best" answer won't be the one that follows the rules perfectly, but is closest to it.
can we use semicolon?period and semicolon are homogenius?
Basically yes. However, semicolons are more commonly used when the two independent clauses are closely related or are perhaps two alternate ways of saying the same thing.
Would option A for the first question be a comma splice?
No because the 2nd half of that sentence is a dependent clause starting with when. Comma splice is when you join two independent clauses, I am doing that right now with this sentence.
@@score-yourcollegecounselorsir can we put comma before when and if then how
What's the difference between
,however,
,however;
;however, and
,however:
Great question. I should do a whole vid on however. So if you have comma+however, you're adding it to the end of a clause as if you were saying "though". (in most cases)
I was hungry. We didn't eat, though.
I was hungry. We didn't eat, however.
These are the same thing.
Semicolon+however means you're using however to contrast the NEXT clause. You would always use a comma after however in this case.
I was hungry; however, we didn't eat.
Comma+however+colon would be really uncommon but it would be like the first case where you're using however instead of though, but you also want to expand on some unclear detail or give an example.
Generally, birds fly. Some can't, however: Penguins are one example.
Watch out for comma+however+comma which is used when it's at the start of a clause but right after an adverb.
We were really tired. Unfortunately, however, we weren't able to find a place to sleep.
could a dash be used as comma?
Yes, em dashes can replace commas for extra information, but not for things like lists or after connectors like However.
In question 4 isn’t D and C the same answers since they have the same function?
I've answered this question a few times in other comments, there's a difference.
Is it possible to quickly summarise the most frequent SAT punctuations.
Yes it is possible.
Like there are dozens of articles about it.
www.khanacademy.org/test-prep/sat-reading-and-writing/x0d47bcec73eb6c4b:foundations/x0d47bcec73eb6c4b:boundaries/a/grammar-guide-punctuation
when do you use a period?
When you're done with your sentence. And that should generally be when you're changing what you're talking about.
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Thank you so much for the material, did I miss something there because I can't find a way to cross check my answers for the maths workbook Qs' since all the answers aren't provided, so will you please help me with that?
For the workbook we don't actually have all the answers there since we typically go over those in the classes, we use that workbook as homework. But you can plug in the questions into tools like Wolfram Alpha and get the answers
@@score-yourcollegecounselor Thanks, I'll check that out.
Sir in qn no 4 why can't we use a colon there?
The subsequent clauses are long, and the first clause doesn't really need any explanation, which is what the colon is meant to do.
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@@aidanlomanto7369 me as well
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@@score-yourcollegecounselorthanks man
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I honestly don't like the way you stand before the sceeen..( i mean i wish to answer myself ..ill pause the video..and answer myself ) .. however, you're just standing... hindering me from seeing well .
Next time pls position yourself well
The idea here is that you would have already gone into my material and then you want to get explanations for the questions. That's why I told everyone what files we were using at the start of the video. I'm trying to show the process here. But I appreciate the feedback and thanks for checking it out
for 1) can't it be C because it's explaining the previous sentences
@score-yourcollegecounselor i am also mused in this and how can comma be used before when.
You can use a comma before when if when is starting a dependent clause, which is the case here. We shouldn't join two independent clauses with commas, but here we have an independent clause with a dependent clause, and so it's okay to do that.
C wouldn't be a great choice as the em dash replaces parenthesis, commas, or a colon, but a colon isn't really necessary here as the first clause defined metamorphosis to some extent.
D also works, but the extra words make it less efficient than A.
@@score-yourcollegecounselor can you quote or share me the material where when starts after comma
It's not common practice. One thing you have to remember about the SAT is that there are questions where the "correct" answer isn't necessarily the "right" or "typical" way to write. Arguably the best way to write this sentence would be without any punctuation at all. But that wasn't a choice in this exercise, and the real test does the exact same thing. You have to know which rules can be bent to an extent. Commas before words like "when" are not common, but can be used in some instances. This is one of those cases (dependent clause after independent clause, optional further elaboration).
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