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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.ค. 2024
- With mountains of recommendations, AMD graphics cards present a massive amount of value (especially against Nvidia). Yet they only make up 15% of GPU owners. AMD only has themselves to blame so let's talk about it.
Hardware Unboxed:
7900 xtx review- • RTX 4080 Killer? Radeo...
7900 xt vs 4070 ti- • Radeon RX 7900XT vs. G...
Daniel Owen- • BEST GPUs to buy in Fe...
Linus- • Please Buy Intel GPUs....
0:00- Reviewers LOVE AMD
1:25- 15% market share
2:04- Nvidia is the GO-TO, reliable
2:52- Driver Issues??
3:55- Open-source Tech doesn't promote sales
5:00- Matching value like they're equal
6:44- ESPECIALLY Misleading Marketing
8:19- What they could do (OOO opinions scary) - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
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I forgot mention this in the video, but more specifically when ppl buy an expensive new card. It’s normal to just go for nvidia because they are the standard.
I kinda mentioned this, but I just wanted to make it more clear
Its a brainwashed standard, monopoly regime. Who gave the authority to make nVidia as a standard ? If you goto your local Microcenter or any best buy they easily spell out Intel and nVidia and if you challenge them they go all crazy nuts. End of the day they want some crazy fool to buy some crazy stuffs. Only the real Engineer would know the value of AMD powering from World's top Super Computer to gaming consoles. Truth always wins the numbers shown by AMD presentations are correct and they stand to what they shown. Else people would have sued the company for sure..
tell amd let RDNA use fluid motion or interpolation again and i may consider buy them, while nvidia can use AI interpolation rn, even cuda interpolation too. but amd cut it from RDNA
@@BastyTHz Please use the older RNDA drivers or raise a request in the community. Else take the code build it for yourself if that helps you for a better purpose..
Ps there’s a lot of comments I’ll try to get to all of them
AMD had great brand loyalty, and were very honest and open about performance until the 7k series. Like they use to be spot on, or just under rated but over delivered in performance.
Never underestimate marketing department's ability to negate the engineering department's work.
This should be a maxim of business management 101
yea a just recomended rx6750 over 3060 (non TI) to my colleaque, he declined it immidietely even if rx6750 is litteraly cheaper here in czech which is kinda insane vallue proposition. Anyway "geforce is better he said".. thats it. People are often just braindead creatures of their habbits. Doesnt metter if its about buyning hardware, politcs or religion they just exists locked behind bars made from blindness , completely voluntarily. :) Nvidias marketing works sickeningly well, here.
@@Kratochvil1989 I would actually love to use AMD, but it just isn't an option for me as I am working with GPU computing (specifically NNs) and Nvidia is just better situated with CUDA (instead of ROCm)
@@shoutz5872 Of course :) In your case AMD gpu just doesnt makes any sense, thats very reasonable. I would went with nvidia too. In this scenario it is what it is, i kinda hoped for Intel will be able to compete with Nvidia, one day. But now with their ARC i am not quite sure yet. I am big fun of any competition thus i hate stagnation and greedness which often comes together in pretty much every company.... maybe one day there will be more options :).
@@Kratochvil1989 well the main thing that Nvidia is just taken as the best (cause they have the biggest power) even when I bought 2080 the AMD didn't have much to offer or there were problematic drivers at that time, but when you not care about absolute top, the AMD is insane value.
Im happy to see Intel in the GPU market. More competition is always good. But the most important thing is - Price to performance , performance per price!!!
they're not competition! at the moment.
Nvidia is more expensive due to both the very good performance in gaming AND productivity, which AMD doens't give as much as nvidia
@@malikgodThey are kinda taking over the low-end tbf
@@daedalus6433 a770,not even close. if it was like $200! but it's like $400
@@malikgod What about the A750 and A580?
Recently swapped to AMD (7800XT) and this was one of the first made me consider not going to nvidia to replace my 1070. Great results so far
i got one too it is an insane performer
me too i run vr games easily
im lookin to buy amd this time around as well to go along with my new build
You could get much better fps with frames generation of Nvidia, but choose not, what an idiot 😂
shi i went from a 1050ti to a 7800xt i feel like my pc can simulate the world rn
Personally I bought an Nvidia because everything seems to work on the Nvidia, on my AMD card I had a lot of driver issues. But not with the drivers themselfs, but with the apps. With Nvidia everything just... Seems to work... I'd like AMD to comeback and take over the GPU market, since their gpus are REALLY REALLY GOOOD and at a good price
I've had the same experience with two AMD cards in the past. Their hardware is incredible but their software is lacking compared to Nvidia in my experience. At least from a driver's standpoint. Ge-Force experience is incredibly lackluster compared to adrenaline but I don't really use either so it doesn't matter. Also Nvidia just has superior encoders for my experience with OBS. I've never had a single issue recording or streaming with an Nvidia card but AMD used to make me want to rip my hair off. I'm currently rocking an RTX 3070 TI but I still haven't had as much joy as when I first bought my RX 5700 for $250 brand new in 2020.
I've flip flopped in the past between team green and team red but have way more faith in nvidia. The last amd card I had was a 5700xt. On paper that card should have been great, however in my system it just wanted to cook itself and stank of burning plastic. I tried to warranty return it but apparently the fault couldn't be replicated. I ended up losing a bunch of money on it and selling it as faulty. Never had such a problem with nvidia. Same reason I'd buy a BMW over a Peugeot, they just work
i had to return my 7900 xtx the week ive got it, so much bugs and underperforming in a lot of games compared to green, its sad because the 6800xt was a real success before, and the 7000 serie of cpus is so trash take 3 min to boot each time you open your pc lol its literraly the most extremly stupid thing i ever experiences in modern pc's
@@julienlauzon1106 but people will call you an Nvidia shill for sharing your experience. I really want to put my wife on RDNA3 for the bang for the buck but the driver issues are what keeps me from doing it.
@@abramwalker882 I'm reticent to go back to amd, I currently have a 2070s. £600 for the current gen similar offering is a bitter pill and I worry about amd reliability. To be fair, the state of current AAA gaming I'm not massively excited to jump in on anything, maybe my 2070s can last me a bit longer!
I bought AMD and got the RX 6800XT for a great price and it's amazing hadn't had any problems and bought it a year ago.
AMD sucks for streaming and for creating content.
not true@@aloha8564
@@aloha8564am i a streamer/content creator?
No, so i dont care, got myself a rx7600 and im gonna do great 1080p gameplay
@@aloha8564 wouldn't say sucks, but what if they're just casual gaming for their own enjoyment?
@@null4145 you can't properly stream with amd right now, thats it.
As a software engineer, AMD has my full support. Many people doesn't even realise how much convenience and security in modern society relies on open source. AMD developing open source is for everyones good, and Nvidia preying on open source while making a lot of technology proprietary (and worse) is behaviour many devs look down upon.
Does AMD work on Linux?
@@NightRaven5568 AMD is great on Linux, NVIDIA on the other hand however it's hard to set it up, took me awhile to get the settings alone.
@@swen1208 As a counterpoint to this I have an NVIDIA laptop and the card worked out of the box on my Linux install, no configuration required. That said, the Linux drivers are treated as second class by NVIDIA. For instance, Starfield has been unplayable since launch due to a driver bug in Linux. I'm thinking of choosing AMD when I build my next desktop pc thanks to their open source drivers which I've heard are fantastic.
@@NightRaven5568 Yea MUCH better then NVIDIA, NVIDIA never give a crap
about Linux, that's why AMD graphics cards are better in Linux, because AMD
do care about good drivers for Linux.
There is a reason why the Steam Deck uses Linux and not Windows.
But yes both NVIDIA and AMD works good on Linux, but AMD is still king.
Amd is shit in terms of android development.(coming from ryzen 5 2600 to i5 12400f)
What are those headphones you're using? I like them, and where can I buy a pair for myself?
Akg k92 i think
Okay one problem I have is that the steam survey doesn't work every time I do it it gets my hardware wrong
One time I mentioned to one of my friends I was building and he went "Oh what RTX are you getting?" It's crazy how most of the general population doesn't know what an AMD is.
Cries in Matrox.
What was his reaction when he heard you say ayy emm deey
@@PomegranateJuiceSmoothieI just told him what GPU I was getting and the Nvidia equivelant
Amd is not cheaper in all countries. Only US maybe. It's also not available that easily like nvidia cards outside of US
And then you said AMD so he started crapping on you, and told you he can't be friends with someone who uses amd. Right?
I bought an RX6800 nearly two years ago having been a long time Nvidia user. Have to say I've absolutely loved the card and had zero issues with it. Performance is excellent, it's quiet and it was cheaper. I'll certainly be considering going with AMD again when it comes time to replace it - but based on current performance that won't be for another year at least.
i also have the 6800 non xt and it is an amazing card. i put mine under water and that thing barely hits over 60 at all. got it undervolted and overclocked too.
Same come from a very long time nivida user. Did a trade with the 3090 I had for a 6900xt red devil extra £1200 on top I couldn't say no.
Anyway there drivers have been solid it's even got better with driver updates. I'll just be buying the best gpu my money can get from now on.
I think they have a crazy bad reputation with drivers from wow days.
I want to ask what usual temp for that gpu? Because i hear from friend is almost always overheat on idle and gaming
i plan to ride mine for like 5 years. got tired of the two year upgrade cycle. my 6800 xt (xfx) performs way better than I ever thought possible for an amd card.
Are you a single monitor user?
Enjoy streaming and tabbing on multi monitor...
i don't buy amd because i bought nvidia and have never financially recovered from it enough to buy amd
My thing is, AMD price to performance is really compelling, even on the top end with the 7900XTX. However I’d just be willing to pay a bit more for similar rasterization preference plus better raytracing performance and more options for software features. Being able to access both DLSS and FSR leaves things wide open. Or I could just do native resolution and DLAA. And I would never use frame generation but that’s there for those who do. I can always change things based on my mood or game, rather than essentially deciding one way when I buy.
Yes however spending extra money for more RTX performance which games barely take advantage of anyways isn't worth the extra hundred lmao. Maybe 10 more years down the road it will be more worth it but as of now it only makes lighting a bit better and reflections. Really only comes in handy when you are playing something like Cyberpunk other than that it still just kills unnecessary performance and people usually leave it off anyways .
Reflex is also pretty amazing too along with DLSS so ya with these kinds of new amazing things it's not really apples to apples.
The last nvidia card i've bought was a 9800gt back in 2009. Since then i've bought 5 gpus, all amd. They were always cheaper and never had any issues, which is why i kept buying them.
Those were good cards. I ran two 8800GTs for years (until they melted - those cards ran hot).
Opposite for me. Tried the 580 before and it just died under warranty and amd basically told me to ho f myself. After that, never amd again.
@@justanobody4983 ive had a 580 for like 4 years, still have it, and it runs very well. Its possible you got a faulty card from a third party seller like gigabyte or asus.
Same never had issues with amd cards
I also have 9800GT in an old rig.
Somehow I feel that AMD is gunning for the APU market: lower powered mobile devices. They are absolutely killing it in the integrated graphics segment. Perhaps they see a strategic space that they feel NVIDIA will be neglecting
Nvidia tried with motherboard chipsets and mobile GPUs, but nowhere near AMD.
The current console generation is running AMD inside.
It's not that Nvidia is neglecting it, they just cannot do it, the tried with Tegra and that failed miserably. AMD is an experienced CPU manufacturer, that's why they can create APUs. This started with semi-custom for the PS4 and Xbox One.
You are right. Their upcoming MI300 will be the biggest apu ever created. even without the CPU part it will be one humongous gpu. 150 billion transistors. Which will power fastest Supercomputer. So they are actually saving their limited 5nm wafer for these accelerator/apus which will make way more money than gaming gpus. Hell even CPUs make over 3 times more money than GPUs with same die space.
@@LuizValenz it has been that way a few generations now.
i am only see problem in less support in software widerange usage like AI, Stable Diffusion or another hobby usage, rendering etc om windows platform, are microsoft hold AMD market share also ?
Same. It's the only reason why I am sticking with Nvidia.
No you aren't. Those guys supporting AMD only talk about gaming... And despite this they suggest people buying Nvidia are uneducated!? Educated people that use the graphic card for many other things like rendering & AI they can't do anything with an AMD. I can't buy an AMD even if I want because many software I use will stop working. Period. For me AMD is a waste of time & money.
@@madalin4802 the whole video is discussing amd's value when gaming
steam statistics and game fps and all that stuff is just to illustrate their value when gaming
Never once did the video imply that nvidia buyers are stupid
just that for a lot of people(gamers) amd could be a better option at times
i mean is it really people's fault if you get butthurt when you're not the subject of discussion
@madalin4802 99% of people wasting money on garbage like a 4090 are only doing it to play video games though. A vast majority of people buying a pc only do it for video games and browsing the internet every now and then, it's why it's stupid to waste money on nvida cards, especially garbage like the 40 series which almost all run worse than the 30 equivalents.
And right now, which RADEON graphics card its ideal for 1440p gaming? a Rx 7800 XT 16gb ? here in Peru that one -from XFX- its around $690 usd.
I'd go for the 6800 XT you can find them about 500 bucks you'll do pretty good at 1440
@@letssayhypotheticallywhy would you buy 6800xt for $500 when you can buy 7800xt for 500
@@MotoFlowsI think I misread his post it was like 3 am when I wrote that shit but I think I meant to say the 7800 XT should be around 500 dollars idk where he be finding it for 700. Also base 6800 it's like 350 and still pretty good id gun for that instead
@@letssayhypothetically hey i have a 1080p monitor and I don't want to buy a new monitor, can you tell me a gpu which is the most powerful in 1080p and it will last me for years i.e futureproof?
@@shantanuzodpe9880 I have simillar situation and Im going to buy RX6950
I bought an AMD 6800XT ASUS TUF late last year. Its my first AMD GPU and I am super happy with it. I gave 700 bucks for it, and at the same time the cheapest 3070Tis and 3080s was at least 150 bucks more. Having 16GB of Vram and with the newly released Adrenalin update, my card is doing a great job keeping fps up with the other two for less money.
i had the luck of buying 6700xt card for only 276 bucks in 2 hand market with 6 months warranty left. i use exclusively amd since 2015 and will continue to use in the future because i bought the nvidia 970 with the 3.5 gb issue + slow 512 mb and didnt liked being scammed by NGreedia
The 6800XT is INSANELY GOOD.
I swapped my 6800xt for a 3080, due to the encoders for VR, but lost some performance even software features.
i have AMD 6800XT its focking great
Same story here, i'm so satisfied with my 5950x and 6800xt.
I have a 6950 xt and its my 6th GPU and my last 5 were Nvidia and AMD GPUs are better in my opinion and besides caught dude lying in this video so once again we have to suffer a Nvidia fanboy no truths here
Important factor that you missed with AMD, for Linux gamers as small as that percentage of gamers is, AMD graphics cards essentially get driver updates way past their usable age. There are experimental projects underway right now for the HD 5000 and the HD 6000 to get Vulcan support and it's expected to be done by October. The ATI rage got a performance boost a couple years ago and the the x300 and whatever series that came from in 2004-2005 got substantial performance boost recently as well. And obviously you can do the math for how old and out of date those graphics cards are yet the community continues to support them. You're lucky if you can make any use of an Nvidia GPU older than fermi at this point in the Linux ecosystem.
I use nvidia on linux witg fermi, ill be honest gaiming aint that great since i dont have vulkan support (falling just short of 396 drivers) and i cant wait to get an amd
factor but not even close to an important one
@@hades8072 L take when 2% of gamers (millions of people) game on linux.
@@ravenpluim9050 you literally just disproved yourself
@@hades8072 Millions of gamers according to the steam survey, showing millions of people need a gpu for this use case lol.
AMD really needs to up their ray tracing abilities because turning it on heavily drops the fps
I have an 6600xt worked fine for a year until yesterday started to give green scren and reboots when playing after 3minutes or 3 hours , no drivers fix it. No clue whay happened
Valid points are brought up; I definitely agree.
AMD really does need to design something new for their next release, so it gives gamers a choice. The issue I foresee with this thinking is that it requires money, and when it comes down to it, they only have about 15% of the market share, so resources are tight. Nvidia has a huge advantage in this area.
Gamers do have a choice. I bought an RX 6600 because it has better performance to the dollar than Nvidia. Next I'll upgrade to the RX 8600 next-gen because the RTX 5060 will be more expensive like they always are.
Maybe my wording could have been better; "gives gamers more of a choice" might have been more suited. However, I do feel there are way too many variables to decide if a specific card has better performance to currency. In general, I would say that for modern, high-graphics-demanding games, Nvidia still has an edge.
Keep in mind that I'm someone who wants AMD to succeed, but taking for example, the FSR 3 technology, it's a big step forward for AMD, but only plays catch up to bring them in line with DLSS 3 (but still with slightly less detail). It's great, but Nvidia pulled ahead again right away with DLSS 3.5, using AI upscaling to improve framerates.
However, I will note that AMD's ray tracing is beginning to catch up with Nvidia's. There are, of course, many more variables, but this reply is getting long, so I'll leave it there.@@MarkLikesCoffee860
Nvidia is also more preferred in the productive and artistic side of things like 3D modellers, streaming and whatnot. Rarely have I seen AMD mentioned or widely used in those aspects. Obviously they should work since it's also a graphics card. I'm just not sure if it's optimized for those use cases.
@@Deathisi Yes I agree 100%. Raytracing and DLSS are great features that give Nvidia a big edge. However, Nvidia have only had those two features since the RTX 2080 was released in September 20, 2018. Before that date, Nvidia's market share was 81.2% and raytracing/DLSS didn't exist. The majority of gamers chose the GTX 1060 which didn't have raytracing and didn't have DLSS. The GTX 1060 also only had 6Gb VRAM. The RX 480 was faster and had 8Gb VRAM. This proves it's not the extra features that caused Nvidia's market share to get so big. Gamers had the choice of more VRAM, a higher framerate without losing any features and they still chose Nvidia.
I'd love a choice in an actual high end GPU without having to choose between something that will burn my house down (4090), something that will melt itself (7900xtx) and high mid tier card masquerading as a high end card with not enough vram (4080)
AMD is looking more and more appetizing over time and the competition is genuinely welcomed because Nvidia have been just throwing around damn near extortionate prices for way too long. AMD have got to start marketing their products better because the performance and value is already there! They're doing a lot of the tough ground work pretty well, they've got a good product at a good price, but it seems the marketing department just... don't know how to leverage that? It's a weird situation...
Hoping AMD take more market share and do well in the future, the industry really needs the competition.
Haha, keep dreaming fanboy
they also have issues with drivers causing issues like crashing etc. doesn't matter how good the hardware is if the software that runs the hardware sucks.
@@Stackaliso does nvidia…
@@Stackali Had my 6700XT for a year now, never had any problems with crashing except for MW2, which crashing was happening for every pc
AMD are not appetizing. Nvidia are not appetizing. Intel are not appetizing. Ignore the brands. Ignore them all. Watch the damn benchmarks and buy the fastest your budget allows. That's what I've been doing for 25 years. Too many people are obsessed with the brand. My current GPU is the RX 6700. For the money, Nvidia could only offer an RTX 3060 which is slower.
I used to drive by this house that had a pinto for sale....started at $500....a month went by they dropped it to $400....another month went by...$300......2 weeks went by
they raised the price to $800....the next day I drove by, that car was sold
people dont understand value.....if I had the money then, I would have bought that car for $500, it ran, not much rust...looked pretty good for an old car
now, I have exclusively used AMD, when they made processors, I had too many problems with Intel......I used always ATI video cards .......... ( what they were called late 90s ) they were good back then
I built a new PC and was trying to find an ATI card and found out AMD had bought them out.....YAY ...they got even better
right now I am using a 2012 crosshair from asus has a phenom 6 core 3Ghz processor, 16g of corsair 1600Mhz memory and an RX480 asus dual graphics card with AMD chip and 4G of memory......ran windows 7 on it for years....up until december 2023, I upgraded to windows 10works even better....it can do HDR 4K on my HiSense 59 inch TV/monitor....I use a fiber optic HDMI cable
have not had any problems...now AMD runs a little hotter, but as long as a fan is running, you wont kill it
I dont game a lot, but when I do, no problems......I built that for around $1200 to $1500 back then with a cooler master HAF case, water cool ready case....just in case I want to
thinking about a new MB, just havent decided which hardware I want from asus
The thing with Nvidia isn't really their marketing that makes it so common among PC users. I would say it's more the influencers and people you interact with on a daily basis. Most streamers and TH-camrs use Nvidia cards and apple phones. Most of my friends even use Nvidia cards and of course have apple phones. Like apple Nvidia is able to capitalize on being the default choice for people. The reason I went with Nvidia 2 years ago was because I didn't know anything about AMD cards. So that's why AMD has a big disadvantage and Intel has an even bigger disadvantage. Since a lot of people don't even know that they exist
that and Lego, like common, other brands, like cobi, megabloxx etc provide like 4x the amount of weight in bricks for the same buck, and they also stick better and aren’t like red, green and yellow bricks in a star wars set or sth, allowing you to actually build something of your own! only issue is their minifigs are bad due to lego using copyright claims all the time
Bought an AMD GPU recently - pretty happy with it - felt it was a great value and the performance has held up to expectations.
I switched to all AMD for the first time when the XTX graphics card came out. Also using AMD processor. But I switched because I was building a new PC and valued performance over brand. I also wanted to take advantage of the memory performance boost that AMD allows for between the processor and graphics card.
Me too this year. First time i'm back to AMD in a decade.
How is the experience? I am planning of building new PC (this would be my first time) so not able to decide, in theory AMD is giving better performance to the price( looking at rx 7800xt) and ryzen 5 7600, but not able to decide should I ho with 4070 or AMD.
Me too, Ryzen 5 5600G paired with an RX 6500XT, no problems at all
@@duhudu I love it so far. I delid my processor for direct die cooling. Worked perfectly. I liked saving $500 on my video card. Nvidia control panel is antiqued and horrible to work with. AMD controls are much more intuitive and easy to use. Especially the processor overclocking controls built into the desktop, so I don’t have to do it in the BIOS/UEFI.
DirectStorage is coming just wait, dont need any amd crap to do this
Genuine question tho. If I can have FSR on any of my Nvidia card. And on top of that combine it with DLSS if I own RTX card. Why would I ever go for AMD cards? Yes they are cheaper but will it matter soon?
New FSR is coming soon. And Nvidia has low VRAM unless you spend 1000 or 2000 on 4080 and 4090.
Why is Vram important? Newer games will have a problem running on those low 8gb and 12gb Vram cards. Most AMD are 16GB for same price as a 8gb nvidia. AMD is futurr proof
@@94jmbottaro lol he said 12gb is low
Comparatively it is.
Regardless, everything he said was true, so it's kinda weird to get hung on that detail.
It will matter if Nvidia keep this up.
I can't get an AMD card because my work depends on NVidia. 3D software builds upon NVidia.
Had Radeon for 10 years: R7 260X, RX 470, RX 5700XT. Switched to an Arc A770 to be a part of the developing product. That lasted two months before the driver situation got to me. Went back to Radeon, and it felt like coming home. Does that make me a fanboy? I seriously considered Nvidia this time around, but I game at 1440p ultrawide, and hope to upgrade to 4k in the future. Vram was a serious consideration, and Nvidia doesn't compete w/ Radeon on vram until the 4080, which was outside my budget.
I always look at Nvidia when buying a GPU but they just don't offer the Value AMD do. If when I bought the RX 6600XT if the 3060 has been the similar performance and the same price I'd have prob gone Nvidia as I have in the past but they were 25% more expensive with 8% less performance.
doesnt sound like a fanboy to me, just chose what fit the budget and worked! cheers
I want to buy 7900xt half a year back. Was 750 eur in Amazon ,but needed to wait 3 weeks. Then i open Ebay. For this price i searched for 7900xtx, but it was hard at that moment ,but possible. After 2 days of searching I found 4080 for 760 eur. Garantie 4 years , more than 3 left. 😂 I didn't choose nvidia, it chose me.
For me the problem is the damn cuda cores and deep learning libraries support, I really hope the drivers continue improving mainly because I love open source and having competition in hardware would be great.
Same here
the only gripe for me not having AMD GPU.
i planned to use GPU mainly for work and gaming second.
Thing with open source though is I don't need AMD for any of it. Like FSR or whatever is great especially since it can easily be modded into games but you can run it fine on an Nvidia gpu and you also get dlss, rtx and Cuda and shit...
Like it's basically not a benefit for AMD at all...
@@zwenkwiel816 considering that you also have to pay upwards of 250$ more for the same performance class just to have RT and DLSS it just doesn't make sense going for Nvidia if you don't own a pc for work.
The Encoders are basically the only argument why one should use Nvidia over AMD but that only goes for workstations not your average gamer.
I'll dare you to show an average gamer Valhalla with and without RT. I guarantee you that most can't even spot a difference. Especially not if you're gaming instead of standing around scenery looking at a rain puddle in RDR2.
@@PuddingXXL it's nice to have the option though, like no matter what you can always run it.
also encoders are pretty important if you want to stream VR, AMD is not good at VR anyway. (and I think also if you just want to stream on twitch or something)
oh and cuda is nice for AI shit. messing with stable diffusion is fun and AI will only get better.
anyway I wasn't trying to get into some argument about which is better (cuz that's obviously Nvidia XD) just pointing out that the open source nature of AMD's tech doesn't really help them sell GPU's.
I have a 6950XT but I have some really annoying thing that just resets my drivers so I have to do a reset every time
I have been recently considering a AMD GPU for my fist build (currently have a prebuilt that I got 2 years ago) but I have been seeing a lot of issues with the drivers. my friend had recently updated to the latest drivers fro his 5500 xt. After the update, he could not open any applications, connect to the internet, or turn off his computer. The adrenaline software would not open either. we still have not figured out the issue, the closet we got was a forum on the AMD website describing very similar problems. the solution given would fix the issue but reinstalling the drivers would cause the issues to start again. i still want to go with AMD bcuase the Nvidia pricing is crazy, but this situation has made me reconsider. i am not to sure its an issue with the old drivers as it seems to be a problem with even the 7000 series gpu's.
That sounds more like a virus than a driver issue. When I updated my RX 6700 XT all I got was a blank screen. I could get into safe mode, install programs, and watch videos on TH-cam. With no and low resolution.
lower power draw doesn't mean better efficiency. doing more work for the same amount of power or using less power for the same amount of work is more efficient
i switched to AMD last GPU gen and got a 6900XT and have never been happier, i feel like most ray tracing implementations at the moment really aren’t crazy enough for me to want to spend an extra 300 for an nvidia GPU
I’m about to buy the asrock oc edtion mint condition for $450 this week Moving from red devil vega 56. Hope it’s a significant upgrade.
@@S1lverspike it will definitely be a significant upgrade, i upgraded for a 2060 super and noticed lots of differences straight away from noise level to amazing performance you definitely won’t regret it
I just switched from an RTX 2060 to an RX 6900 XT for only $720. It's really nice having 3090 levels of performance
The last gen was really disrupted by covid and mining. If a 6800XT had been available at MSRP, it might have been the card to make big gains in market share. One thing I will say about the 6900XT is that they finally had a great reference cooler, and the drivers were all great from day 1. It was a fantastic experience all around, it's just a real shame that they had competing products at all levels for Nvidia offerings, and they couldn't take advantage of it.
It's about the software. Frame generation is insane I'm getting 400 fps in dying light at 1440p maxed with raytracing. Spiderman was a near constant 300 fps. Nvidia is always 10 steps ahead of AMD software wise. They are always in the lab cooking something up. Then AMD just releases a scuffed version of that software that never lives up to Nvidias version.
Am about to build pc 7 7800x3d and rx 7900xt, but is it totally killer for full hd gaming, i got this monitor at the moment. Am planning upgrade monitor to 1440p for sure in future but now i need pc to Play modern games
AMD can never be greedy if it wants to gain more market share.
Nice video Vex, this was well researched! I agree with all your points. I also still owe you a 1v1 in Fortnite :D
Fr dude. Most of the info came from u so thanks for that!
Also I aint scared, I’ll 1v1. Epic: Ency999
Add me u won’t 😈
@@vextakes I'll add you ;)
I thought I could dm on epic but ig not. If ur on fort then I could prolly msg u then.
Also Ik ur real busy so just whenever ur free. I don’t wanna get u caught up or something
@@vextakes Got Discord? I'll add you there.
Yessir! ency#3505
There are other reasons: in these parts (Balkans) there are significantly fewer choices for buyers from the AMD lineup, and the prices are higher compared to elsewhere. I have seen them make more inroads with users lately, if forums are anything to go by. Also, there's the matter of work use, mainly because of nVidia's CUDA cores and how ubiquitous they have become in professional applications such as rendering.
brate kod nas amd ne postoji skoro
Not only do they give us less options in some countries they are even more expensive then nvidia
Not only balkans. AMD plainly produce less. It affects aviability worldwide.
@@y00d Nađe se po oglasima i u nekim radnjama, ali ni blizu kao nVidia. Sad ima više nego ranije.
@@heyhoe168 I know, but I can only speak from experience.
For me it's because i don't understand which number thingy is high end/low end, also because i don't know if the AMD GPUs will be compatible with my current rig components and moreover due to fear of change (for these big ammounts of money) ngl.
Only reason I went with a nvidia card is for VR. I do a lot of Sim Racing and I have heard a lot issues on the meta quest headsets with the AMD cards. I was super close to getting the 7900gre but I really didn't want to fiddle around too much just getting stuff to work.
Bought an RX6700XT 2 years ago. Still kickin' it. Drivers? I wouldn't say they're bad. In fact, I love how you outlined just how much worse the "GeForce Experience" is - Adrenaline is a nice piece of Software, ReLive in Particular. I've had some issues with a Driver Version back in the days where Horizon Zero Dawn would suffer from a memory leak. However, they fixed that. There are games that just favour Nvidia because they have Nvidia's technology baked in, but AMD still manages to hold their ground.
Go Team Red.
I got my 6950 XT for $800 in November and I'm just blown away. It is a very enjoyable 4k experience.
@@APS1350 Not much of a flex. Owning AMD cards is literally the subject of the video. Sorry you're insecure but ok.
@@APS1350 Hahahaha, cringe.
@Alan Schabelski Yeah sure you do buddy. We totally believe you along with that 6700xt and your father's dual a6000 system, lol.
@@APS1350 I don't know what's cringier, getting butthurt someone commented they enjoyed a product, trying to one up them with a laptop chipset(lol), or writing all that shit thinking I would care.
@@fredericktorres6651 you right 👍
What about DLSS support? It isn't there in AMD, FSR does not do interpolation.
Can a AMD vga pair with an Intel i9 cpu as a good combo ?
With prices falling, I went with a Sapphire Pulse 7900 XTX. I am more than happy with performance. 90% of my gaming is MW2 and WarZone 2, so in those titles, I'm closer to a 4090 than 4080. Cost was £950 with a copy of RE4, which is something different to play for "free" at least.
its a great card. with value well into the future. especially if your building your entire Rig (named Rig Astley) from scratch.
bruh is it working good enough now too ?
allways have an eye on Consumption, how much Wattage need those cards in comparison for what they offer. Calculate this with how much you spending for a year.
Damn Daniel
@@sukunamodule9585 Rock solid. Still churns out a ton of FPS in titles I play
It’s crazy when you realize most gamers stick with mid range GPU options and that’s where AMD shines most but it’s also the history with their drivers that probably created a lot of customer loyalty but I think Reflex has kept a lot of ppl to with Nvidia
I used to have an RX 6600, it was my first AMD gpu. I was pleasantly surprised by performance per dollar. But Adrenaline software SUCKS, and also the drivers never worked on latest released games. Other than that it wasnt a terrible experience.
Also something I have found very consistently is people blaming AMD drivers for every issue that happens when most of the time is a windows thing
@@azazeltheforgottenright? I have a 6800xt red devil since it launched , never had any issues , even when I went from windows 10 to 11 , works flawlessly, windows does weird things like uninstalled drivers which can happen to any gpu or any platform , most of the time people blame drivers when it’s really the operator lol 😂, can’t say how many times I help fix my friends problems and only to find out he messed with certain settings , like people messing with OC profiles and certain games don’t like oc
@@azazeltheforgotteneasy to blame windows for literally any malfunction
@@77Frictiondid u use display driver uninstaller to remove old nvidia drivers
Interesting. ☺️
Does AMD do fewer check sums than Intel, and as a result - produce more execution errors?
I bought a 3080 ti for 450 used I stay with envidia because I can clip stuff. Does AMD have that?
I got an rx 6700xt and it's been like the best decision I made for my build, one thing that really bugs me though is how all the reviews go with the narative that AMD cards don't work with professional workloads. I do work with SOLIDWORKS, blender, premiere, and a whole suite of smaller programs and never had an issue.
Edit: I mostly dabble with these programs to experiment as a maker and only engage in solidwork, solidcam, mastercam and a couple of electronic design softwares for work. My issue stems not from professionals not using them but from gamers being shunned away from them due to a seeming lack of compatibility which most often would not be an issue for someone who merely wants to experiment with creative outlets, which even then would be a minority of users.
The longer time goes on, the more I'm thinking of adding the 6700XT to the list of All Time Great GPUs. Along with the Geforce 6600GT, Radeon HD4770, GTX750Ti and R9 280X.
Define issue? For some of us, a blender render taking 30 minutes instead of 10 would be an issue. When your GPU is getting beaten by an older entry level Nvidia card in the benchmarks, that would be an issue (at least for most productivity users). Having vray refuse to open, or After Effects crash, these would also be issues. Getting artifacts when building certain lighting situations in Unreal, or being locked out of certain features, these are issues. The complaints about AMD and productivity are real and legitimate.
Obviously it will depend on the user, and their workflow but even at the bare minimum, unnecessarily long render times that get beaten by older gen entry level hardware is not exactly something to be ok with.
@@deuswulf6193 I know that a sample size of one is pretty bad in terms of getting a general idea of the effective performance of a card and I can't really speak for blender as that's what my gf uses my computer for however I know that for SOLIDWORKS it's been a dream, especially for the price point.
@@APS1350 I would assume Solidworks is mostly a CPU based application. I don't use much CAD software, so I can't comment too much on that. Looking it up on PugentSystems though, they seem to imply certain visualizer features won't work with some gpus. Are you rendering those models in any particular way? If so is the renderer based on the GPU or CPU.
Its highly likely your choice of GPU has little to no impact on the basic viewing and editing features found in Solid Works.
@@deuswulf6193 it's really dependant upon your settings but for the stuff I typically do I've noticed it tends to be more gpu bound, SOLIDWORKS is unfortunately still single threaded and my dad's old 6th gen laptop i7 works fine for even up to date SOLIDWORKS, my biggest issue is how much vram there is cause model files get quite large for me. The most gpu intensive task I believe would be assemblies where the gpu handles the rendering of, in some instances thousands of complex geometries and their interactions, should you use solidworks motion.
I'm not trying to say that AMD is equal or better than Nvidia in terms of professional workloads support, and I do believe that Nvidia's GPUs, especially their professional GPUs are far more reliable. I just don't like how AMD's lacking professional drivers are pushed as a reason for the average person or gamer not to buy them because even if you do like to dabble in modeling or cad or rendering or video editing, a Radeon gpu will most likely be sufficient.
I love AMD GPUs. I upgraded from an RTX3080 to a Radeon 7900XTX and was frankly very pleasantly surprised how superior the Adrenalin software package is to Nvidia, not to mention how smooth the card performs at 4k
I sold my 3080 to my brother and get a 7900 XT great card great value great performance!!!
@@olddadagamer dunno I have RX560 but it does great in streamint with Ryzen 2600 with 32 GB RAM
I got an 7900xt to replace my 3070. Went all AMD with both my rigs this year and I am super happy with them. Can't wait for the 7800X3D !
I just went from a 5700xt to a 3090 and I miss adrenaline. It just didn't always work great. But when it did I was using it almost daily.
Until raytracing coming into play
Dlss looks nice and it’s true ai upscaling. Way better than FSR?
i had a rx6800 and although it was a good card the rt performance was disappointing. now that i have both i can say fsr is kind of lackluster compared to dlss as well ( I mean just the up scaling). the drivers on amd are very nice though i will admit that.
my main game has been cyberpunk so that made getting a 4080 the obvious next step for me. i dont regret getting that card one bit, even if it was pricey.
I bought a 6700xt and a 6600 for my son. Both work great. And we each got a new monitor with the money we saved. Edit: I should be clear, my wife does graphic design, so I had access to a 3090 and now a 4090 for comparison. Frame generation is good ONLY in single player games. It really isn't that good of a feature (yet). Also I am one of your first 1,000 subscribers. I wish you well with giving honest opinions.
Besides if FSR 3 competes it'll kinda kill any reason to get Nvidia 40series for DLSS 3
And there it is! Playing the manipulation game by using your "wife" and "Hey, I've been a long time subscriber" along with a backhanded compliment as a shield to keep anyone from commenting that you deemed as "negative" or that goes against what you have stated.
@@engenheirocaldasodocumenta6172 Wife will still buy Nvidia no matter what, she wants the fastest for graphics rendering for her job (they pay for it). I will buy whatever performs the best for the money in gaming.
@@engenheirocaldasodocumenta6172 lol 4090 is way better than anything amd has to offer.
Amd’s upscaling is also not good enough.
Oh n u expect fsr3 to be as good as dlss frame gen. Keeep dreaming. Amd is only good at low-mid range
@@anuzahyder7185 FSR 2-2.2 is as good if not comparable to DLSS. And the 4090 is a 1600 USD card. What else do you want me to say about that?
I think Nvidia also has an easier naming scheme betweem GPU and intel CPU "tiers". Easier for newer people to understand what they're even looking at it
Hey u said that AMD GPUs driver nowadays has no problem do you have a recommendation for an AMD GPU equivalent to RTX 3080?
Dont't believe in that - I cannot play half of my games because of AMD drivers, it keeps crashing with the classic "driver time out" message. Do a favor for you and don't buy this AMD cards, they're good but the drivers sucks and it ruins the experience.
@@fiscal212 ehmm ic ic ... well thanks for the info :)
@@fiscal212what your GPU card? And can you name a 3 games that have a problem with AMD driver ?
@@rupes96 My GPU is a RX 580 8GB, I'm having problems in games like Outer Wilds, Mirror's Edge Catalyst, Mortal Kombat 11, sometimes Red Dead Redemption 2 etc, the most unplayable of these is Outer Wilds, sometimes I cannot play this game not even for 5 minutes. I'm trying to undervolt and sometimes even underclock my GPU, I tested a little bit and seems better, but I would prefer to not underclock my GPU so I can keep the performance that it have to be.
@@fiscal212My R9 290 X has no issues beyond the outdated architechture (GCN 2)
I have been using a radeon rx 6600 for about a month now and I have been experiencing black screen issues within their drivers. It's like AMD plays around with your settings and sets it back to default when it detects a "system failure", which then after that my display works. I am hoping that this is not an issue for other people, but it is proven to be a driver issue and has been ongoing since 2021. Don't get me wrong, the card is great in terms of performance for its price but I might as well just buy an nvidia card at this point
You need to factor in that AMD makes their software to work across all brands of cards. Nvidia is a walled garden, much easier to only make it work with your hardware. Therefore older Nvidia hardware can benefit from AMD support even after Nvidia has stopped supporting their own buyers.
Yes that's just dumb imo, amd needs to stop doing that
@@clinged2711No i think that everyone shpuld be doing like amd imo, they got very good P.R. because if that
its like iOS vs Android
@@FunnyParadox No they shouldn't, there's several issues that take months to fix because of AMD not having card manufacturer's work out the issues, some so bad that they killed people's PCs just earlier this year
@@zk0rned you are telling me a graphic card can kill your pc when running some software made from any brand ? Then that's on the fucking graphic card manufacturer.
even worse it tells you it may be made so it is that bad with other specific software developpers that it is trying to kill itself
Went with a RX 6700 XT and got no complain about it. Runs smoothly in every game, with the latest driver, a bit of undervolting and overclocking, has pretty much passed the RTX 3070 performance in most games (I'm using the strix model which has factory oc). And the UI is really friendly considering a minimum knowledge on GPU optimization.
The stigma towards AMD comes much from the driver issues they had back there and the fact that Nvidia really has a strong marketing. Even knowing that most os AMD GPUs are pair to pair with Nvidia, just the "GeForce RTX" brand is enough to convince the avenger consumer.
Sure they have some really good codecs and blame AMD for not keeping it up, but I do think the percentage of people using those resources are minimal considering the scenario
6700 XT here as well. Cheaper than a 3060 Ti and like you said, trades blows with 3070 while being cheaper and having 50% more VRAM. The only downside is that I cheaped out and bought a model with a crappy cooler (PowerColor Fighter).
Same exact card and I’m very happy with it, but I don’t really care about amd or nvidia or intel. I just get what’s the best value for me. At launch they market the 6700xt to the 3070 and it got slaughtered, but with driver optimisation and price drop, its a no brainer today. No need to feel bad about a multi billion business like its an indie game developer, consumers should just choose what they want to buy.
Got my 6800 non xt for 330$, same price of 3060 coz ppl here also workship Nvidia. 330$ for higher game pef of 550$ 3070ti ( no RT ) why even think xD
Yep got my 6700 non xt for 320 dollars and I'm basically right smack in the middle of 3060 and 3070 performance
I really wanted a 3060ti but their like 480 at any store I got to because I don't like to shop online because I'm never home to pickup packages, found a 6700 for 320 and for my frist amd card I was kinda scared with the whole ddu process and drivers. But honestly it all took 20min and I only have one single complaint which is NFS heat besides that everything runs great
Got the Red Devil RX 6700 XT, I got it for both Gaming and work purposes. With Games barely needed to adjust myself onto Adrenalin Software, what's funny is with how I changed my workflow with apps like 3ds max, Maya, Subtance 3D Painter, Photoshop and Premiere. I barely changed my workflow a bit and I managed to adapt to the GPU nice and easy without relying on CUDA. Like how the comments said, I'm also undervolting my GPU with Adrenalin's Tuning Tab via Performance options. I managed to set it around 2250MHz, 912mV, and power limit to -6%. Pretty much stable and runs beautifully.
I bought a 6750 to replace my 1080... my pc wash crashing all the time... settings on card reseted by itself... too many problems... got my self a 3070ti and never had any issue again...
I had a similar issue. Turned out it wasn't AMD drivers but instead it was my BIOS
My BIOS had so many problems appearently
Does it run lumion faster?!!!
This may apply to gamers, but for productivity users in the creative industry, much of the software we rely on (Adobe CC, Blender, etc) are optimised for Nvidia cards. That may change (Blender is rolling out more AMD support with each version) but for now, that's a big reason why Nvidia is the obvious choice for people looking for GPUs for something other than gaming.
Anyone who does anything other than gaming with their GPU understands why Nvidia is so much more popular. Their product is technologically superior in every meaningful way. It's not that AMD is bad, it's just that Nvidia users are unwilling to compromise. It's very similar to how apple works.
This is a huge point that gets overlooked a lot. It is always about gamers but people do forget that productivity is also very important. I like to use zBrush and video editors like Davinci Resolve and the Nvidia cards just have way better support for those programs. I do also like to game but productivity is also just as important to me.
I just recently find a free voice removal tool and it utilizes GPU to do the work. Guess what GPU was recommended? It's Nvidia. The software author don't even recommend AMD or any other GPU. You can use CPU also. But the process will be much slower.
AMD just announced recently ROCm is coming to windows. This software is AMDs counter to Nvidias CUDA and has been available on Linux and server GPUs for a while now.
When this releases the gap will shrink considerably.
@@omargodinez7256 Not really, most Android phones are just as capable for less with the same features but AMD lacks greatly in features that actually matter unlike Apple that just keeps taking away features to cut costs
I got an 7900xt in december 2023, I love the card by itself, the adrenaline software is awesome in my opinion, but it has driver problems by "cold" boot up the system, i needed to re-start my pc EVERY TIME and NO "EASY FIX" helped...I talked with a good friend about this and he had THE SAME PROBLEMS years ago with an amd card...i hope they take it back and i am in team green again...btw my ol 1060 works without issues.
About 2 months ago, i was talking to a friend about the pc i was going to buy in 3 months(one month now) and said i was going to get a 4070 and he told me to checl out AMD instead so after some time i pickes out the 7800 XT, with potential to pick up the 7900 GRE/XT insteqd
just upgraded from 1660S to 6700 XT and freaking love it. being able to play most of the games I like at high fps is great. i have a 1080p monitor so thats why im stuck on that.
But overall its been great
I play everything on highest settings in 1440p with my 6700XT, no problems whatsoever..
its really good even for 1440p, only 2 games i know cant run max on 1440p max with 60 fps always, cb 2077 and plague tale requirem, if u dont mind using fsr in both games tho requirem need mod for it, u can play those and every game for sure 1440p if u dont mind no rt, mine brother is using it for 1080p atm, will upgrade later to 1080p 144hz or 1440p 75hz since he dont play much fps games
Just went from a 980to to a 6700xt, most games run better but Minecraft seems to have gotten way more laggy 😭
@@fantasypvp What CPU and board are you using? you may need to update your chipset driver and GPIO driver at a minimum as the much faster card will put a lot of stress on older CPU, another option is to go into graphics settings through your windows search bar and set minecraft onto low power mode, can sometimes solve issues on AMD cards if it's being under utilized
@@fantasypvp I play minecraft with my son. Only problem I'm having with it is it's capped at 65 fps and I can not figure out why.
Just upgraded to a 7900 XTX from a RTX 2070 and I have to say... I am loving it. It is Playing all my games the game I love. Streaming worked great. I had no issues with drivers. I did do a DDU clean install also. Upgraded my RAM up to DDR4 32gb 3600 as well. Everything is running buttery smooth.
I got an 7900xt for 800 and I have had zero issues with drivers. What's funny is the software suite is SO MUCH BETTER than Nvidia.
@@rage8010 Do you use it for 4k or 1440p? Just asking
@@Xilent1 I play at 4k 60. But I have another monitor I use for FPS games and that is 280Hz 1080p. So just depends on the game. Hogwarts Legacy I played at 4k 60 tho for example.
My friend who has a 6900XT had driver issues for years. It's fixed now, but people said back then as well that the drivers are fine now. They clearly were not.
there is an actual (like the 7th gen?) amd cpu with no integrated graphics?
The 7900 xtx is faster then the 4080 and has 8 gb more vram and were calling amd overpriced?the 4080 is 200+ more and offers less raw performance and 16 gb of vram is to low for a card of that price.ray tracing wont mean anything in 2 years when the 4080 cant give you enough vram to run it
Considering AMD is making software updates for cards from 2005, buying an AMD card is great value. I'm actually in a funny situation where I want to upgrade but the RX 6600 is just too much of a BEAST. With my R9 5900x it just eats games.
The 7900 xrx is not faster than the 4080 especially with dlss 3.5
@@mynamejeffgaming Everyone knows you're wrong because no serious person uses Dlss in their comparisons. That's not how it works. You don't even know why it doesn't work that way.
That's a disingenuous argument. They're both overpriced.
Right, it`s heaven on paper but hell in real world. Seems you rather have great specs than a great gaming experience.
You hear that a lot with AMD.
Went from Vega 64 to RX 5700 XT to RX 6800, once in all these years of upgrades had a bad driver update. That was with the 5700 XT where youtube would crash. I rolled back an update but they fixed it within a week and could update further. I had a 2060 briefly because I could get it for cheap from a friend. I had decided to stay with the Vega 64 since performance was actually better aswell as software heavy preference for AMD and the 2060 had loads of issues with Warzone.
After my 1080Ti croaked, I replaced it with a Radeon VII. That card was fine, but loud. I replaced it with a Red Devil 5700XT and loved it. Replaced that with a 6800XT in my main PC and put a 6700XT in my LAN PC, super pleased. No intention of buying Nvidia again any time soon.
I have an rx6600 and I do have driver issues quite frequently
because i had a bad experinece with amd in the past, i bough a very expensive gpu and i could not run killing floor 2 on ultra because it did not allow me to enable the physx stuff... so my game was inferior missing the blood. =/
now if im going to upgrade i want the best ray tracing experience and how can i belive amd if they did let me down in the past?
Went with a 6700 XT myself and I can run every game I play on ultra, sure I may not have ray tracing. Yet I payed half of an equivalent nvidia card would have cost, at the time. Even the most graphically intense game I have, Icarus, looks amazing and runs smoothly. Sure if I went and bought a 4090, it would improve with ray tracing and more FPS, yet I do not have $1,600 to blow on one component. When I have about $1,800 in my entire setup and it does everything I need it to do.
Glad ur happy. Ur not missing out much on raytracing. I ended up getting a 3080 over a 6800 xt and rtx still isn’t that usable
Bro i got a 6700xt over a 3060ti. good value and runs all my games very well.
Yeah no need to feel pressured by content creators that are literally sponsored and pay by these manufacturers. In the end no matter its 1080p or 4K you’re all playing the same game.
They just keep bring up the anxiety of not get the latest newest coolest stuff, will the game break if you dial down a few settings? Or will your super vision pick up the difference of few frames. I don’t know man.
The truth actually is that game developers will most likely consider the widest range of gpu possible, you can see in the steam survey the most own cards are still the 1650 1060 and 2060 from years ago. If the game is poorly optimised, you’ll feel shit in a 4090 either way, just upgrade your card when you feel it doesn’t deliver anymore, not because you wanna get robbed today.
@@vextakes Oddly I can go to my local bestbuy and get a 4090 founder edition for $1,600, but on Newegg I can not buy a 3090 for less than $1,800 LOL
Nice
I bought my RX5700 back in January 2020, right before all that COVID and crypto mining stuff. And this was probably one of my most successful purchases. Except for recent AI image generators (which are mainly using CUDA), I don't really have a reason to switch to NVidia
this is my main gripe. Having to stand linux and weird installs with AMD to set up Stable Diffusion is such a pain.
With Nvidia is as simple as to start up 1111 on Window and it works FASTER. I'm a bit tired...
Same for me. I bought a 5600XT, and it's been great. For me, I'm almost exclusively on Linux, so the open source drivers for AMD are a huge win
Same. But i sold it as soon as the crypto boom came.
Bought a a 3070 for the money i recieved.
Fun part was, that i had the worst 5700xt i had to physically mod to be useful. And new buyer wasn't bothered. :D
i got 6700xt for 380$ this year right after ces 2023 because didnt see any info about the new 7000 mid range card . so far this card is great for 1440p in any games . If i change to 4k monitor I will just open fsr in every it will still give me like 80~90fps . I think its great value
if you need AI image generation, there are options for AMD. try using SharkSD. it has a built-in feature to recompile the models to work specifically with your gpu. works wonders on AMD. it still won't be as fast as an equivalent nvidia, but i mean, 6.8 it/s on 512x512 images is hardly bad for my 6900xt. generates a good image in like 3 seconds. a 5700xt should be about half as fast, which is good enough to almost match a 2060...
Four years ago, I took the plunge and got an AMD CPU. Last year, I took the plunge and got an AMD GPU. Compared to my lifelong experience with the Intel/Nvidia duo, I'd say it was a learning curve: Intel CPUs and Nvidia GPUs are usually fine out of the box. My 3700X and 6700XT both took some tweaking to perform at their best. But wow. The performance/price ratio is fantastic!
I just recently built my first PC and went with an AMD card because of the value. I found the 6800 on sale for around 350 brand new and have been pretty happy with that decision. From what I've seen, it's pretty hard to find anything with better performance at that price point, even used, while also having more VRAM than anything Nvidia offers in that price range, double in most cases. From what I've looked up about RT, it seems like i shouldn't be worried about it because unless i have a 4090, it just isn't as impressive as it is marketed currently. My entire system cost half of what you can get a 4090 by itself for right now, and I play everything on high to ultra quality with no problems.
I like AMD. I'll happily buy their cards when they finally: fix the VR performance, fix their blender rendering performance, fix their stable diffusion performance and fix their encoding performance. Intel did all of that already and they are on their 1st gen product
Sounds like you need a workstation card tbh
I fully agree with you. If AMD had fixed all of this, I would get like a 6950XT instead of a 3080 or 3090.
@TheCooperman666 Or just get a normal Nvidia card
lol no they didn't (the Intel stuff)
And Intel is far faaar from new to the GPU game.
Intel did not fix anything... they improved it just like amd wich is a company small in size compared to Intel and NVIDIA yet their fighting the fight on both fronts
My first “gaming” PC (smaller tower office computer with a low profile graphics card slapped in) was had an Nvidia card card in it. My first 2 graphics card purchases were heavily swayed by ETA Prime. My first card in 2019 was a low profile GT 1030 then a low profile RX 6400.
Right now with my first actual gaming pc I have RX 6700 XT. Again I loved every Card I used so. Can’t beat the price to performance that AMD offers
Planning to get a 6700xt soon too, it's crazy the performance x price compared to Nvidia, in Brasil, 6700xt is 2700 reais and the 3070 is like 3700/4000, for the same game performance lmao
@@jhowgx same performance but you also got to look at the vram usage that amd has better than nvidia, at least for the 6700/ 3070 type cards... you can find videos of vram usage making re4 remake unplayable at really high settings at 1440p on the 3070
@@slite3276 That's because it's poorly done port by no other than Iron Galaxy. It's a poor taste to bench cards using unoptimized ports, and claim that 8GB cards are dead. Go back to the days of people complaining about the performance of Arkum Asylum. It's no different with RE4 and LoU. They're both VRAM hogs, plain and simple.
@@PatientXero607 i dident find that iron galaxy ported re4… tlou port was beyond awful but i wasn’t comparing the vram usage to it. Nor did i say 8gb cards are dead, but if everything keeps going the way it is and has been doing the past 20 years, people look forward to newer and higher resolutions just like how we went from 720p>1080p>1440p>4k and now 8k is becoming somewhat playable with the 4090… and also amd with display port 2.1 getting ready for the advancements in resolution upgrades as well… anything that is under 12gb will be left behind much much faster just as say a 2gb card would have 10 years ago
@@PatientXero607 iron Galaxy didn't do the res4r port, that's the tlou port.
i purchased rx 6600 to find are radeon gpu's good or bad i can say games made on dx 10 11 12 radeon gpu's performs fine i am guessing you dont need video editing and ray tracing even in indie games
but as a ultimate gpu i cant recommend radeon gpu if you play old games before 2010
Finally got into PC gaming recently and made a build with a 7700XT with the mindset I would upgrade to a GTX 50 series card whenever they came out. However I'm really enjoying the 7700XT so much I'm not sure I'll even upgrade.
I upgraded from an RTX 2080TI to an AMD 7900XTX the only issues I've had after 3 months are.
Some games (mainly Dead Space Remake) have random green or purple reflection (fixed simply by changing the reflection settings)
And the hardware cursor being stuck on screen. (Fixed by tabbing out and back in)
Otherwise it's a great upgrade if you are going for near top tier and don't care for ray tracing
I currently have a RTX 2080 and at the time (2019) I was planning on upgrading to the RTX 4080....that changed once the price was announced and the RTX 4070ti seems to have its own big compromise (12gb ram) at its price. So now I'm considering the RX 7900 XT or the RX 7900 XTX (price dependant) towards the end of this year.
Even if you do care for ray tracing.
Did you remove all the nvidia stuff from your PC? It can also make some issues. 😞
Still problems you didn`t have with Nvidia, and there are way more to come.
@@brugj03 Lol, I recently moved from 4090 to 7900 XTX and have less problems. With 4090 system would fail to wake from sleep, clks would be stuck to 700MHz even when game was running, random audio drops... Sucks to be the guy that has never used both and has given both brands their fair share.
I guess that's because I've never had any problems with Nvidia. I had the GTX 970 for 9 years, and it never failed me once. The driver support has been excellent until this day, and I've had the same positive experience going back to the early 2000s.
enjoy your 3.5 GB i guess.
Still rolling my 970 after 8 years, not a single issue with drivers or hardware, still playing low setting with 80+ fps
On one hand I get it. On the other hand... Dont you wanna get more bang for buck with your money?
Im not a fanboy of either company... I just buy AMD because for the same cash I get a way better card
@@mejdlocraftci yeah i know AMD has better price / performance ratio but i'm not a person who upgrade frequently. My PCs are built for the next 5-6 years so I don't mind spending a little bit more. I just built a new PC and am happy with the performance.
@@royalecrafts6252 yeah it still runs 1080p pretty well if you reduce the settings to mid-low. I've finally upgraded to the 4070 btw
What about their power compsumption....? I have seen "Similar cards" Taking way more than competitor card.
They do seem to keep dropping the ball on initial pricing. That's why I got an AMD card second hand on ebay. The liquid cooled 6800 XT that Asus made is a monster of a gpu. Like if I didn't have the stats on my screen I don't know if I could tell the difference between it and the 4090 (at 1440p), because the only difference in the maxed out settings is that RT is disabled for my 6800. I don't really give a shit about RT though. Maybe when I graduate to 4k it'll be different. Point is that on ebay people want to get what they paid for it, so they initially price over like $1200, then you just wait it out until it inevitably drops below $550 and you get a monster gpu for what feels like a fair price. The LC editions of their 6000 series are tremendous options if you can fit them in your case, and quiet as hell.
Built my first gaming rig last month, went with a R7 5700x and RX 6700 combo for 1080p high refresh gaming at max settings and it was such a good decision lol
Rubbish cpu ,, nice GPU
Great combo
Planning to get almost the same combo, AM4 Is just amazing
@@tilapiadave3234 whats inherently wrong with the cpu?
@@mike5214 literally nothing. He's just brain-dead.
Never owned an nvidia card, and it would be a tough deal to break since AMD offers way more value for my situation. I recently purchased a 6750XT to upgrade my aging 570, which I had for almost 5 years and considering this one now has 12GB of VRAM it will be more than enough for my needs.
@Shadowyarts oh but the 1050 was a great card when it launched, those were different times .
@@derrick2181 6950XT for $650 is also amazing value though
top tier 4k performance and not bad for ray tracing either
@@bruceludlow1326 It's certainly a good value, but definitely doesn't offer top tier 4k performance.
I guess you don't know then since you've never owned one.
@@itstheweirdguy hell no, and I don't want to own one.
I had a Radeon 7870 2gb ram(release in 2012) for almost 9 years, no issues with drivers very good an stable used it with two tvs(sometimes 3) as monitors, I was playing no man's sky and it was a struggle on the 2020 updates so it was time for an upgrade, in the middle of covid hardware frenzy(summer 2021) the only good offer I was able to catch was a prebuilt(parts where stupidly high) i7 10700 with a 3070 for 1700 dlls(interest free payments), I really want a radeon again but it was hard to get and expensive and I really was above of budget so I thought I was buying a really good deal at the time, and it was BUT men NVIDIA Drivers sucks so hard so many issues with multiple monitors, windows hdr crash every time(takes me two months two know that hdr was a problem), it goes crazy if you have a 4k(2160p) and a 2k(1080p), some very strange things with old games(imperialism 2 1997, hellgate london 2007), so many functions that amd has for more than a decade doesn't exist in nvidia, I never buying again and rtx(escalation sucks so bad it looks sometimes good but the moment you move is starts struggling like in cyberpunk) card, I really missed AMD, so I'm waiting patiently for the 7900 too drop in price know that I have a 4k 120 hz tv I really need vram that a 3070 doesn't have.
I built my first ever computer last week, and the graphics card im using is a used rx6600 i got off of eBay for $150 (before tax), and the cpu im running is a ryzen 5 3600. (Edit: fixed grammar)
I'm also using that one and I'm building my first pc now. Everything is done, windows installed.
Except I still haven't installed intake and exhaust fans....
@@dusty_giraffe2111 trying to know how they face?
i’ll say as someone who built a pc about 8 months ago and started with a AMD card, the rx 6700xt and later upgraded to the rx 6950xt w/amd cpu.. i’ve had 0 issues personally. plus with the value it’s kinda crazy. at least with last gen cards. i think it’s the easy choice if you don’t wanna spend a ridiculous amount on a nvidia card.
If the 7900xt and xtx launched at $699 and $799 respectively, it’d be more well received than it is right now. It’s hard to budge the market leader, so amd needs to priced their gpu to have great values compared to the competition imo. Great video btw!
Agreed... if they can sell it very competitively cheaper to make it no brainer to go AMD, I bet they'll get people to move, increasing their current market dhare. Though, I bet Nvidia would just match/adjust to the lower price too, so unfortunately AMD choses to bring their prices way too high (to match nvidia's) that maybe people would just think "Nvidia is better and doesn't cost that much more, so I'll go to Nvidia "
@@shyhrk exactly this. I have a 6800XT but for people who have always bought NVidia, you need to give them a reason to change. If the just price match NVidia, what’s the point?
Volume will hit capacity at some point, but more importantly, they are a business. They want to make money. They want money to reinvest in themselves. They want to grow their R&D, their marketing, their sales, their other divisions.
Asking for that price is asking for competitive prices at the expense of the company's future. Look what happened about 10 years ago? When they were selling so cheap, so competitive that they were unable to spend enough time and money in R&D and almost disappeared from the market.
I mean... C'mon people. I also would LIKE all those top end cards to be much MUCH cheaper, but 799$ for a flagship product when the competitor, market leader, most powerful brainwasher goes for 1599$? If they didn't sell at 1600+ USD, it'd be one thing, but they do.
I'm more worried about the low end disappearing completely and the midrange going up to 400-600$. Price creep all around... But not *entirely* unwarranted. (cries in multivaried factors of shafting cost)
@@TheGheddon nvidia fan will always say about the AMD's driver issues so that sometime the new pc builder heard from other about the bad rumor spread by word of mouth. Honestly nvidia have more user base so it's not strange if they will pick nvidia first b'coz it's look more reliability from number of user
Definitely. If the RX7900XTX was around $700-$800, I'd have bought one. Now I spent extra for extra performance and better efficiency and bought an RTX4090. AMD positioned the RX7900XTX for the RTX4080 to be an enticing upsell. And the RTX4090 is a good upsell when you're considering the RTX4080. If the RX7900XTX was between $700-$800, the RTX4080 wouldn't have been an enticing upsell, and the RTX4090 wouldn't have been worth mentioning.
Now I will spend another 5-6 years with an Nvidia GPU in my main rig.
Took a long time for people to come around to AMD CPUs from Intel too. We'll get there, just takes time.
I'm getting into data science, there's no freaking way I'm spending 60% more on a i9 14900k and 4090 when I can get a AMD CPU and GPU with mostly the same performance.
The 6700xt/ 6750xt best money for value, people have no clue!
Is the Radeon 7900XTX 24Gb GPU a good graphics card?
One area where open source does help far more is server side computation; i.e. HPC. That coupled with lower power means that AMD is starting to eat input NVIDIA / Cuda. Vulkan compute will help too.
I don't think I can agree here.... nVidia is CUDA, which is the basis for most computations. Also the 4000 series is less power hungry than the 7000's... Also nVidia already has purpose built IC's using CUDA cores for automated cars with expansion capabilities just for doing those computations. (outside of the consumer GPU market).
AMD should be marketing for value per dollar. That's where they can gain an advantage, but they overhype their consumer products and then under-deliver. It's almost a meme at this point when they say they are going to clobber nVidia's top tier card.... They won't. Stop saying you will. Say you will offer better value for the people not dropping $1600 on a new video card.
@@wheelerthree oH NooO they HAvenT TaRgeTed the 0,1% gpu that no one but extremely stupid rich individuals would ever buy
Lmao they beat Nvidia in every price segment except for the one exorbitantly high priced card that no one cares about and which will become obsolete as a top tier product in half a year only to be surpassed by amd and Nvidia cards at half the price
Going for good performance exclusively on one very niche halo tier product won’t give you marketshare, it’s the 200-400$ cards that make up 99% of sales and this a a class where Nvidia can’t compete at all.
But keep looking at fake frames, with too low vram to make use of your excellent raytracing Performance, while gamers will pay half for better performance in every aspect
Nvidia shills can’t stop coping
I have used AMD, and before that ATI, going all the way back to the days of the Rage Pro and Rage II. There was a period in the early 2010s when I used Nvidia, but ATI/AMD ended up having the "best available cards" for my older PCs (for example the HD4600-last/best card for AGP 8x). I was also strongly inclined towards Radeon for my new build in 2021 and I ended up getting a 6600XT in 2022 at an inflated price owing to the time, but it has done well for me since.
When did AMG have any value?
Last year (Nov) I bought an AMD RX6800 to drive my 1440p UW (3440 x1440) monitor and have had zero performance issues with any games and zero driver issues. Power and fan management have been excellent also. Very satisfied.
I had the 5700xt as my first built pc. It was great back then and i hardly had issues with the firmware. Then I jumped to the 3080 for the upgrade, where, ironically had driver issues when playing forza horizon 5. But I bought Nvidia because of the nvenc for game recording and photography and videography production and also potential cad software support.
I would take AMD but if I'm not mistaken they do not have any SFF cards (175mm) in their lineup and that what I need for my build so I'm stuck a bit .
steam survey cant count cause many ppl have both systems they use to play on the same main account they can switch back and forth like its different rooms or houses