Just an FYI that wildtrak has the High/Lux 354A package for equipment which gives the ACC and the B&O speakers and other upgrades. It’s not standard for wildtrak trim level. Also the roof rails are add on as well so it’s not a base wildtrak. Just in case anyone is expecting those features on a base wildtrak they won’t be there. Also, the 4A will allow the vehicle to switch from 4x4 and 2x2 automatically to be more fuel efficient than keeping it on 4x4. Better for winter/wet conditions.
@evac6395 I use the slippery setting alot and it's great for hurricane flooding, just did that to recover a friend and his range rover that was swamped during hurricane debby.
So for the Wildtrack, the sliders were aftermarket. As far as the tie rods, the Wildtrack comes with the 3.0 steering package (unless its a 2021), which is the same exact tie rods (except for length) as the Raptor. You can also option a similar bumper as the Raptor on the Wildtrack with the D-Rings, you're just looking at one build by someone who didn't add that... did you research at all before the video?. The Raptor has some insane differences as well as far as chassis design, suspension location and geometry, and of course, shocks. The Raptor is a BEAST off-road compared to a WIldtrack and handles whoops, jumps, and more with much more prowess. It also scores a 590 CTI score on a flex trailer vs a Wildtrack scoring a 480 with swaybars disconnected (unbolted since no electric disconnect). The Raptor is a whole nother ball game. You're right on the money for usage. Most people will never use the Raptor to its potential, I'm lucky to have friends that do and I have a heavily modified Bronco. Even after everything I've done to mine, the stock Raptor still outperforms. The axles are also exactly the same, same differential, everything. The Raptors are just a little longer because of the extra track width, no extra strength.
Glad to have all that info and no I didn’t look up one thing in these. I just wanted to compare them at face value like most customers would for this video. Obviously I can justify the difference for the Raptor. That’s why I bought one, so I agree with you!
@popo_patty I think 2024 they upgraded the tie rod end of all sas broncos didn't they? I know bronco was talking about switching them all to m210 diffs in front because it's the same price for them in bulk and time to install. No moving around and scanning for individual different at the labor station and only a single fixture. There was a bulletin about the smaller tie rods bending and they upgraded mine at the dealer because one of mine was bent and it couldn't be aligned correctly. Side note, some dealers have this thing when you drive into service that checks your alignment, tire pressures and weights at each corner. It's very cool and it's how they spotted mine being bent. They offered to replace my front tire but I told them I was going to swap tires soon. The dealer is doing my lift and tires, I have them in the garage, I need one more wheel.
Id pick the Raptor because the 2.7L Ecoboost has a rubber belt driven oil pump, which just screams failure in the future, whereas the 3.0L is chain driven and would not have any major downsides.
Great comparison! A no bias/no BS listen. WildTrack it will be! I'd never go beat on either of these vehicles, unless situation dictated that I needed to. Not a prepper, while being prepared can't hurt; I need to pull a side x side, get to some un-surfaced locations to launch that side x side, and sometimes that involves deep snow and muck...looking like the 2.7 will cover that bill, with better economy...and oddly, as you mention, maybe even better amenities. Subtract 30 grand and for my needs, the Wild Track is a no-brainer!
Great review. Wish you would have taken some bumps at speed to see if the Hoss 3.0 behaves somewhat like the Braptor. Do you work at a Kia dealership? I would like to see a review of the new EV9. Thanks!
The biggest difference between the Raptor and any other full size bronco, is the Raptor will retain a higher resale value in comparison to the others, as there aren't as many on the road and people do want them, just not at $90K. I drove a 2024 Badlands with the same 2.7L and felt it needs more engine, the 325HP would move the Bronco fine, but lacks the git up and go I'd like to see at that price point. Also, I have an explorer ST with the 3.0 and yes, there is a HUGE difference in performance from the 3.0 to the 2.7 and hope at some point FORD will offer the 3.0 as an option in other trim levels than the Raptor only.
I got the Wildtrak high lux package. The Raptor is awesome, but i live in the burbs with limited offroad trails near by. The Raptor is overkill for me. I actually sold a highly modified Audi S vehicle which did 0-60 in 3.2 seconds. Regardless of what perception is the Raptor is not fast. Its fast for what it is, but a 5.6 0-60 is not impressive these days. If i lived out west near desert areas, my view would be different. For 95% of people looking at these the Raptor is for show.
The most expensive bronco you can buy is mine, its 81k on the sticker. It has every option on an outer banks. I had stuff added. The only raptor they had was 125k and i didnt think it was better for the cash. I would rather have the 2.7l. Its a nicer motor and you can get more out of the 2.7. The 3.0 has cast pistons, aluminum block and the same turbos. The 2.7 has a sintered cast iron block and forged pistons, forged crank. I saw one that pushed out 650hp from the stock bottom end. My outer banks has wool carpet, power seats, mine has more sound deadner, the B&O stereo. The outer banks is quieter ride and has deeper bolsters. I have ran against a raptor and there is zero difference in 0-60 and 0-80, it slowly pulls away at 80-100. I have the better diff ratio and steering ratio. I also have real leather instead of vinyl. The raptor plays a low note through a firewall speaker when you rev it to make it sound different. Its fake sound for the exhaust. The fox isnt as nice on road, i am lifting mine and switching the king shocks. Every Braptor i see has broken fenders or flares, people hit them at drive through.
Haha that’s a lot of good information, I appreciate it! One thing you didn’t mention is how much more capable the Raptor is off-road! That’s the main point you can’t forget!
@GodspeedZRZ that's mainly the tires, I have 37s in the garage and a new set of wheels, a 2in lift and king shocks, better shocks than the fox which are valved slightly different than the stock bilsteins and have only 1/8" of bore diameter on the reservoir. I have had to pull out a raptor bronco and a raptor f150 both at events. One is on youtube somewhere. It's more about the driver and the false confidence that the raptor gives people because they think that it means they can't get stuck. The f150 raptor guy pried the badge off of his truck and gave it to me because his truck had to be left overnight in deep mud with water in his truck and engine. He said 2 jeeps tried to get him out and couldn't. Technique is worth more than stickers and badges, that's the biggest takeaway. Nobody goes without being stuck at least a few times. The difference is knowing limitations and recovery without damage. I got stuck once in Afghanistan during a firefight but was able to self recover with a tow strap by running it around a tree and back to the tire, using it as a winch. I was stuck like a turtle on a boulder and just needed a little pull. The other vehicles were too big to get into the area and I was in a humvee. That was the last time I have been stuck. I suggest going to the bronco course, it's great content and it's free for you.
looks like the wildtrack is just over 69k now my raptor was right at 93k with price change. It's alot of money difference but in my opinion we'll worth it!
Good video, man. While I do like the Raptor better, it’s not worth the price difference unless you’re doing hardcore off roading. Also, people sleep on the 2.7L. I’ve got mine currently running low 13’s in the 1/4 mile and about to do a custom tune w/93 and E85 Shooting for 12’s. Watch out 392 Wranglers 😅
The Bronco Raptor 10 speed auto is different. We have both. Try both in Sport, and you will find the mapping in the Raptor to be very different. The Bronco Raptor blips the throttle on downshifts, the Wildtrak does not. Raptor Sport mode uses 2H rather than 4A. Both great, Raptor better.
absolutely $30K in different equipment. The Shocks, the Engine, the rock protection under the raptor, bigger tires, just to name a few things. A bit scared you are selling cars.
@@GodspeedZRZ Here's what no one is talking about.. The Braptor is largely margin. It goes down the same production line at the same speed as other Broncos. It comsumes the same overhead allocation and the same direct labor as other Broncos. The upgraded parts do cost Ford more but they get credit for the parts they repalce. If you think about the Braptor upgrades as what you would pay retail...then have them installed...then throw your stock parts away; that's when the Braptor price seems more like a bargain. Truth is Ford is making a much bigger margin on them. And there's an arugument that Ford has overpriced. There are more Braptors on dealer lots than most other trim levels. Everybody loves the truck but the price is a pill the market is having a hard time swalloing.
Obviously the front bumpers are, they are rock sliders with detachable steps. Comments suck when you don't know about the vehicle. Thanks for watching!
You don’t buy a Ford Bronco for luxury you buy a Bronco for the capability 😅 name something that’s is better off-road from the factory made buy a “luxury / higher end brand”
@@GodspeedZRZ doesn't matter, its a ford... pricing should be ford oriented.. maybe if lincoln made the bronco, it would make more sense... its like VW making a 120K car.. noone would buy it.. they would just goto audi.
I got a 23 Wildtrak with the real metal front bumper with metal brush guard that can only be added to the metal bumper. My bumper in the rear is plastic just like the one in the video. I don’t play around with baby Broncos like the sport.
You ford boys are all the same. I do like the wildtrak, but I prefer a more manly vehicle. Can you do a comparison with a manly zr2 vs a feminine ford haha. 😂
Just an FYI that wildtrak has the High/Lux 354A package for equipment which gives the ACC and the B&O speakers and other upgrades. It’s not standard for wildtrak trim level. Also the roof rails are add on as well so it’s not a base wildtrak. Just in case anyone is expecting those features on a base wildtrak they won’t be there. Also, the 4A will allow the vehicle to switch from 4x4 and 2x2 automatically to be more fuel efficient than keeping it on 4x4. Better for winter/wet conditions.
Thanks for that awesome info! Sounds like you might sell them for a living?!
@evac6395 I use the slippery setting alot and it's great for hurricane flooding, just did that to recover a friend and his range rover that was swamped during hurricane debby.
The wildtrak also has the boss suspension with the fox dampeners
So for the Wildtrack, the sliders were aftermarket. As far as the tie rods, the Wildtrack comes with the 3.0 steering package (unless its a 2021), which is the same exact tie rods (except for length) as the Raptor. You can also option a similar bumper as the Raptor on the Wildtrack with the D-Rings, you're just looking at one build by someone who didn't add that... did you research at all before the video?. The Raptor has some insane differences as well as far as chassis design, suspension location and geometry, and of course, shocks. The Raptor is a BEAST off-road compared to a WIldtrack and handles whoops, jumps, and more with much more prowess. It also scores a 590 CTI score on a flex trailer vs a Wildtrack scoring a 480 with swaybars disconnected (unbolted since no electric disconnect).
The Raptor is a whole nother ball game. You're right on the money for usage. Most people will never use the Raptor to its potential, I'm lucky to have friends that do and I have a heavily modified Bronco. Even after everything I've done to mine, the stock Raptor still outperforms.
The axles are also exactly the same, same differential, everything. The Raptors are just a little longer because of the extra track width, no extra strength.
Glad to have all that info and no I didn’t look up one thing in these. I just wanted to compare them at face value like most customers would for this video. Obviously I can justify the difference for the Raptor. That’s why I bought one, so I agree with you!
@popo_patty I think 2024 they upgraded the tie rod end of all sas broncos didn't they? I know bronco was talking about switching them all to m210 diffs in front because it's the same price for them in bulk and time to install. No moving around and scanning for individual different at the labor station and only a single fixture. There was a bulletin about the smaller tie rods bending and they upgraded mine at the dealer because one of mine was bent and it couldn't be aligned correctly.
Side note, some dealers have this thing when you drive into service that checks your alignment, tire pressures and weights at each corner. It's very cool and it's how they spotted mine being bent. They offered to replace my front tire but I told them I was going to swap tires soon. The dealer is doing my lift and tires, I have them in the garage, I need one more wheel.
Id pick the Raptor because the 2.7L Ecoboost has a rubber belt driven oil pump, which just screams failure in the future, whereas the 3.0L is chain driven and would not have any major downsides.
I had no clue about that, thanks for the awesome info!
Great comparison! A no bias/no BS listen. WildTrack it will be! I'd never go beat on either of these vehicles, unless situation dictated that I needed to. Not a prepper, while being prepared can't hurt; I need to pull a side x side, get to some un-surfaced locations to launch that side x side, and sometimes that involves deep snow and muck...looking like the 2.7 will cover that bill, with better economy...and oddly, as you mention, maybe even better amenities. Subtract 30 grand and for my needs, the Wild Track is a no-brainer!
It is definitely the most bang for your buck! Thanks for watching!
Great review. Wish you would have taken some bumps at speed to see if the Hoss 3.0 behaves somewhat like the Braptor. Do you work at a Kia dealership? I would like to see a review of the new EV9. Thanks!
I appreciate it and I do! I reviewed the EV6 on this channel when they first came out so I may just have to cover the EV9!
The biggest difference between the Raptor and any other full size bronco, is the Raptor will retain a higher resale value in comparison to the others, as there aren't as many on the road and people do want them, just not at $90K. I drove a 2024 Badlands with the same 2.7L and felt it needs more engine, the 325HP would move the Bronco fine, but lacks the git up and go I'd like to see at that price point. Also, I have an explorer ST with the 3.0 and yes, there is a HUGE difference in performance from the 3.0 to the 2.7 and hope at some point FORD will offer the 3.0 as an option in other trim levels than the Raptor only.
Thanks for your input and honest experience!
I got the Wildtrak high lux package. The Raptor is awesome, but i live in the burbs with limited offroad trails near by. The Raptor is overkill for me. I actually sold a highly modified Audi S vehicle which did 0-60 in 3.2 seconds. Regardless of what perception is the Raptor is not fast. Its fast for what it is, but a 5.6 0-60 is not impressive these days. If i lived out west near desert areas, my view would be different. For 95% of people looking at these the Raptor is for show.
You are so right, thanks for watching!
“Not a big difference.” Bro, it’s 1/3 more HP than the WildTrak. That’s massive.
Yeah but you can tune the Wildtrak to make the same power pretty easily.
@@GodspeedZRZ how
I bet you wouldn't feel much difference between the Raptor and my two-door Wildtrak regarding how quick it is.
The most expensive bronco you can buy is mine, its 81k on the sticker. It has every option on an outer banks. I had stuff added. The only raptor they had was 125k and i didnt think it was better for the cash. I would rather have the 2.7l. Its a nicer motor and you can get more out of the 2.7. The 3.0 has cast pistons, aluminum block and the same turbos. The 2.7 has a sintered cast iron block and forged pistons, forged crank. I saw one that pushed out 650hp from the stock bottom end.
My outer banks has wool carpet, power seats, mine has more sound deadner, the B&O stereo. The outer banks is quieter ride and has deeper bolsters. I have ran against a raptor and there is zero difference in 0-60 and 0-80, it slowly pulls away at 80-100. I have the better diff ratio and steering ratio. I also have real leather instead of vinyl.
The raptor plays a low note through a firewall speaker when you rev it to make it sound different. Its fake sound for the exhaust. The fox isnt as nice on road, i am lifting mine and switching the king shocks.
Every Braptor i see has broken fenders or flares, people hit them at drive through.
Haha that’s a lot of good information, I appreciate it! One thing you didn’t mention is how much more capable the Raptor is off-road! That’s the main point you can’t forget!
@GodspeedZRZ that's mainly the tires, I have 37s in the garage and a new set of wheels, a 2in lift and king shocks, better shocks than the fox which are valved slightly different than the stock bilsteins and have only 1/8" of bore diameter on the reservoir.
I have had to pull out a raptor bronco and a raptor f150 both at events. One is on youtube somewhere. It's more about the driver and the false confidence that the raptor gives people because they think that it means they can't get stuck. The f150 raptor guy pried the badge off of his truck and gave it to me because his truck had to be left overnight in deep mud with water in his truck and engine. He said 2 jeeps tried to get him out and couldn't. Technique is worth more than stickers and badges, that's the biggest takeaway. Nobody goes without being stuck at least a few times. The difference is knowing limitations and recovery without damage. I got stuck once in Afghanistan during a firefight but was able to self recover with a tow strap by running it around a tree and back to the tire, using it as a winch. I was stuck like a turtle on a boulder and just needed a little pull. The other vehicles were too big to get into the area and I was in a humvee. That was the last time I have been stuck.
I suggest going to the bronco course, it's great content and it's free for you.
Hey quick question, how often do you have to update the firmware on your JL Tazer Mini for the 392 ?
I have honestly only updated it once. You probably should every six months if you want all the latest features but I just use it for the 2wd now
@@GodspeedZRZ that’s literally all I need it for too, thanks and God Speed! 🫡
@blakemarchand6650 haha Godspeed brother!
Well done presentation!
Thank you!
looks like the wildtrack is just over 69k now my raptor was right at 93k with price change. It's alot of money difference but in my opinion we'll worth it!
With the new prices I agree, I would really prefer a 15k difference but I can live with a 24k difference if I have to haha
Good video, man. While I do like the Raptor better, it’s not worth the price difference unless you’re doing hardcore off roading.
Also, people sleep on the 2.7L. I’ve got mine currently running low 13’s in the 1/4 mile and about to do a custom tune w/93 and E85
Shooting for 12’s. Watch out 392 Wranglers 😅
That is wild, I was really impressed by the power! Thanks for watching!
The Bronco Raptor 10 speed auto is different. We have both. Try both in Sport, and you will find the mapping in the Raptor to be very different. The Bronco Raptor blips the throttle on downshifts, the Wildtrak does not. Raptor Sport mode uses 2H rather than 4A. Both great, Raptor better.
Great points, thanks for watching!
The tuning is different, but the transmissions are Identical
Seems like the Raptor should be the standard Bronco and base version, and maybe offer a V8 version.
Wouldn't that be awesome haha
What do you do for Kia ?
Depends on the time of the year haha
I don’t like the buttons to get into 4Hi and 4Lo
I would definitely prefer a manual lever like we are use to!
@@GodspeedZRZ Wooord 🗣️
Good comparison
Thanks for watching!
My wild track has 37s 4 in lift exhaust kit chip so about 60 more horsepower I’ll take mine !
I bet that is an awesome machine!
Raptor👍👍👍
Glad to hear it, thanks for watching!
I got the 2024 wildtrak and I’ll put the other 35,000 in my pocker or for the difference I could go buy another brand new vehicle all together.
You are not wrong at all!
Damn that’s crazy
Yes sir, thanks for watching!
I would pick the Raptor any day.☺️
Me too
Why don't they make a a 2 Door Raptor?
I just think they know they wouldn’t sell enough to justify it.
392 on top
For sure
absolutely $30K in different equipment. The Shocks, the Engine, the rock protection under the raptor, bigger tires, just to name a few things. A bit scared you are selling cars.
LOL, I don't sell cars but people like you my friend are the reason they continue to sell them for 100k
@@GodspeedZRZ Here's what no one is talking about.. The Braptor is largely margin. It goes down the same production line at the same speed as other Broncos. It comsumes the same overhead allocation and the same direct labor as other Broncos. The upgraded parts do cost Ford more but they get credit for the parts they repalce. If you think about the Braptor upgrades as what you would pay retail...then have them installed...then throw your stock parts away; that's when the Braptor price seems more like a bargain. Truth is Ford is making a much bigger margin on them. And there's an arugument that Ford has overpriced. There are more Braptors on dealer lots than most other trim levels. Everybody loves the truck but the price is a pill the market is having a hard time swalloing.
braptor alll day
Glad to hear it haha
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Thanks for watching!
Obviously NOT steel bumpers. Obviously Not rock sliders, theyre steps. reviews suck when you dont know about the vehicle.
Obviously the front bumpers are, they are rock sliders with detachable steps. Comments suck when you don't know about the vehicle. Thanks for watching!
in 2024 you are spending over 60K for a FORD... complete insanity. fords should cap out at 60K and then move onto luxury / higher end brands.
You don’t buy a Ford Bronco for luxury you buy a Bronco for the capability 😅 name something that’s is better off-road from the factory made buy a “luxury / higher end brand”
@@GodspeedZRZ doesn't matter, its a ford... pricing should be ford oriented.. maybe if lincoln made the bronco, it would make more sense... its like VW making a 120K car.. noone would buy it.. they would just goto audi.
Nope 392 all day.
Haha I’m with you!
Toyota 4Runner much more volume
Like interior space?
@@GodspeedZRZ for durable :)
@BruceAC I don’t know about that haha
@@GodspeedZRZ okay, for the Benjamin Franklin! :)
As soon as he called the plastic bumpers metal, I would not be able to trust anything else he would say. So I stop watching.
I guess you have only been around the bronco sport if you think these are plastic lol
I got a 23 Wildtrak with the real metal front bumper with metal brush guard that can only be added to the metal bumper. My bumper in the rear is plastic just like the one in the video. I don’t play around with baby Broncos like the sport.
You ford boys are all the same. I do like the wildtrak, but I prefer a more manly vehicle. Can you do a comparison with a manly zr2 vs a feminine ford haha. 😂
Yeah the ZR2 would be a great comparison, the S-10 Blazer ZR2 of course. Nothing else will compare!