Damn, he blew the veil off the 90s for me. Nostalgia made me think it was the best decade but it was just a bunch of people with their shoulders too far back
I see models doing this now...not sure why it's considered a 90s thing, it's been a staple in modelling since the 80s. Freddie Mercury used to do it too.
Because o your comment just realised now I spent time on the internet it’s been years since I just spent time at home standing putting my shooders back.Hobby were so different
Chiropractors and Osteopaths were richer in the 90s 3:15 Obviously Liam Gallacher doesn't do this. With your shoulders back it's almost impossible to drag your knuckles along the ground.
Pecs were invented by Peter Andre in 1999. Prior to this the human body did not have pectoral muscles to balance out the rearward pull of the scapula and trapezius.
@imperishablestars33 Great choice of word - nonchalant. That's the word for sure. As for the comment from "T", the only "load of shite" I can see is coming from *you* "T". Was nonchalant too big a word for you? Dumb dumb 😒✌
Unlike now when every single person...wait do we even have real people anymore? Not sure we do, everyone thinks they're a model or "influencer", desperate to pretend they're all perfect and wonderful all the time when they're ALL just rabidly toxic egotists, self-obsessed like never before, increasingly mentally ill and in reality just fighting and trampling over everyone to try and be billionaires at any cost. Not to forget completely co-opted and controlled by global corporations who've now taken over everything to the Nth degree, including people's brains, and everyone just now rolls over and tows the corporate line while believing they're actually helping some sort of magnificent social progress when they're clearly not, merely facilitating more and more corruption and global domination. Yeah, what a wonderful society we are now eh...🙄The delusional egotism is unbelievable today, off the charts and across the board.
The stance is from pre-teen adoption of the bucket hat. Poorly made bucket hats caused balance issues in under developed spines of young Northern English males, resulting in shoulder muscles pulling to compensate for weak chest muscles.
I think the slouch was popular with shoegaze and grunge in the early nineties, but Britpop was a reaction against that sort of thing, so decided to go the opposite way. Be smart, be a mod, have good posture.
It might look like it's a trendy thing to do standing there with their shoulders back but there's a more sinister reason for it than just a trend. In the 90's these Indie bands were mostly the product of the Manchester music scene and in particular, Factory Records. All of these bands were kept in a Manchester factory by Tony Wilson. They spent up to 18 hours a day writing and rehearsing music and Wilson fed them a diet of thin gruel and Canal water. As there were no windows in the factory, all of them inevitably ended up with a vitamin D deficiency. The lack of vitamin D and carrying heavy music amps and gear left them pasty faced with weak bones and scoliosis. By the time they made it to Top of the pops, their shoulders and spines were contorted beyond repair. Many of those 90's band members are now blue badge holders. The next time you see a car in a disabled spot outside Home Bargains, chances are it's Richard Ashcroft from The Verve or Sonya Maden from Echobelly. If you wait long enough for them to come back to their car, just ask them for a picture or an autograph. If you've read this far down, I'll come clean. I made this $hite up but I'm now stuck with the image in my head of cu*ts hanging around disabled parking spaces waiting for autographs from disabled folk.
Thank god you let us know you that you made this up at the end. Reckon you had a few us getting ready to pop down the local shopping centre! Certainly had me going for a minute there anyway, mate!
I recall this posture was in response to the mars bar denial game. Friends used to chuck a mars bar at their friends and the idea was to act cool and tilt backwards and slightly to the side to brush the mars bar off and deflect it, as if to say, no, mars bar, not today.
I was watching The Hives at Leeds Festival 2002 and 2 guys stood in front of me doing that stance with their hands in the back pockets of their skinny jeans and that pose stuck with me for over 20 years. I had never seen anyone trying so hard to look cool in my life.
Limmy is truly in his Grandpa era - gather round children let me tell you a tale of the 90s, So I Tied An Onion To My Belt, Which Was The Style At The Time..
I grew up in the 90s - I haven’t been able to shake this habit - I stand around like this before meetings, and when in queues, etc. It annoys me, I annoy me
sadly, this was entirely reversed by the technological boom in the mid-late 2000's of every household having a PC in the living room. It destroyed all our postures and gave us hunchbacks.
I'd say it's predecessor 'The Word' rivals it; grunge, shoegaze, riot grrrrl, ravey break beat stuff, rap cross-over etc. While TFI certainly chronicles this later mid-point 'Britpop' spinal part.
I feel you man... about your back... I have a 'drop shoulder' - means it looks like my left arm is an inch or so longer than the other two arms. People stare at me sometimes, makes me feel really conscious of it.
I recognized her voice immediately but can’t for the life of me, think of where I know it from. It was definitely a guest spot she did the vocals on for another band. I’d never heard of Echobelly before today
I remember going to my first gig with my older brother. As soon as we walked through the door he started doing this. It confused the hell out of me. Everyone was doing it in there too. Totally baffled
What I do remember from the mid-90s were boy bands and people like Peter Andre who used to wear a jacket unzipped and let one of their shoulders and half their torso slip out so they could show off a glimpse of their six pack.
I once had a pair of trousers in the 90s, where the pockets felt like they were stitched in too far back, perhaps this was either a cause or a remedy for this shoulder phenomena
As an American, it's so odd seeing these bands for the first time on a show about dominating the charts, because none of them broke big here as far as I know. The music, vibe, and fashion is so alien to me, since in the mid-90s it was all about grunge, post-grunge/alternative, and boy bands.
Some of them did OK in America and has cult followings. However it was a much more British centred rebellion of everything becoming Anericanised at the time particularly music with the grunge and pop music generally. The demise of British guitar bands, too. Which had been so dominant in the 60s & 70s. Britpop as they called it was a resurgence of that for a brief period of the mid 90s.
I would say suede were the kings of this stance. I would say that it might be a way for projecting your voice. But it's deffo put on extra back in the day?
I had actually noticed this about 20 years ago. I was autistic and severely dyspraxic meaning i had terrible posture and couldnt quite figure out how to stand properly. I had grown up watching all these 90s plonkers with their shudders. They threw me off for sure
the other night on bbc4 there was some 90s totp, a techno act, literally had their mountain bike on the stage propped up next to the equipment , i could nae find an explation online.
@@mctv7416 yeah it reminded me of me and squatter mates sane vibe but a 10 year gap between us and them. also the security guard at White City probably was moaning at them 'you cant lock that up here! you cant bring it in here!' gimme a few minutes i will look through ma history to find it.
It's mostly simply a singing technique, and can be seen many times outside of the nineties. Some individuals particularly in the nineties may have leaned into it on purpose, using it for style, but so many use posture & body movements only for singing technique, making it not completely easy to tell. In my opinion, music has gotten worse since those days, so it seems that we could do with less judgment about how people look on stage, certainly not more judgment. Most of the time it's a genuine singing technique, and is still seen today at live gigs many times. Also, Ocean Colour Scene made some great songs.
It was because the camera added a few pounds to the face, through telephoto lens compression. So to combat it, you did shoulders back, back straight and chin forward. Which in turn gave you a stronger jaw line.
We had to use heavy equipment like yellow pages, kays catalogue, newspapers, videotapes. No wonder we were buff with massive shoulders, we just looked skinny cos of the baggy clothes and awful diets, smoking and metz
It was the style back then with anyone into Brit rock. But the bit Limmy missed was it was about how to wear the shirt. They wanted to look like the shirt was sliding off them. They loved long sleeved anything back then. They'd have their sleeves right down to the knuckles. Anything from long sleeve t-shirts to jumpers.
Indeed, but then there was the predecessor of the 'knuckle-sleeve', namely Robert Smith's traily jumper sleeves that had to be crumpled and held inside awkward fists, like a wee boy would have to do in an oversize hand-me-down from his much bigger brother. (Don't start me.)
Haha! Not something I’ve ever given much thought to limmy, far too many other things about people in general that annoy me , but that’s a new one for me to look out for I suppose 😂 thanks 👍
My mates' da pulled me in in like 91 or something and was like ffs lad POSTURE! Get your shoulders back and stand up straight! I got really self-conscious about it
Yes. Indie clubs in the 00s was full of people with their feet facing inwards. Bizarre really, when you think about it. Maybe the pointy shoes naturally made it happen
No phones, everyone just living in the moment with their shoulders back.
shudders
Nobody could find their mates they were probably looking for them
@@Tsa-SONGS-ABOUT-BEING-a-DAD but you did find someone else
@@Featherface01 shoohders
That's what I was going to say, no one was hunched into their phones, hence no kyphotic posture 🤷🏻
Damn, he blew the veil off the 90s for me. Nostalgia made me think it was the best decade but it was just a bunch of people with their shoulders too far back
Yeah. Depressing. At least we can always look back fondly on alcopops and Cool Water.
I see models doing this now...not sure why it's considered a 90s thing, it's been a staple in modelling since the 80s. Freddie Mercury used to do it too.
For me it was always the electronics, not just their functionality but the aesthetics
Shoeders! Ya bigot!
Probably modelling themselves on Liam Gallaghers stance and attitude as they where beyond massive as a band back then
Well there was no internet in those days, there was fuck all to do besides putting our shoulders too far back
Because o your comment just realised now I spent time on the internet it’s been years since I just spent time at home standing putting my shooders back.Hobby were so different
Yep not really put my shoulders back since the Dawn of youtube. Note to self. Put iPad down and thrust shoulders back!
Ty! 🙏
Yep or read the yellow pages
Chiropractors and Osteopaths were richer in the 90s
3:15 Obviously Liam Gallacher doesn't do this. With your shoulders back it's almost impossible to drag your knuckles along the ground.
speak for yerself I had the internet in the 90s, I use to play quake with my mates and wait 2 hours for a 30 seconds clip of porn to download
Everyone stood strangely in the 90s. I couldn't wait for the decade to end, just so I could stand normally.
You were part of the problem. But, good on you for admitting it.
Lol. Me too but I miss those days, you never know how good you're standing till it's gone
Stoners stand like the stoners walk is only done for maximum efficiency. .
Pecs were invented by Peter Andre in 1999. Prior to this the human body did not have pectoral muscles to balance out the rearward pull of the scapula and trapezius.
😂😂😂
*Andrex
Mysterious girl... 🌴
Thanks for sharing-I did not know that 🧠
94
Damien Allbran.
I laughed way too hard at this! 😂
West Bromich Alburn
I've been saying it as allbran since about 1994 😂
Shreddies Seven
Cheerio Speedwagon
these 90s bands were so desperately concerned with coming across as nonchalant
Load of shite you have wrote there
So much so that it literally looked like their bodies posture was dangling from a coat hanger.
You have wrote
@imperishablestars33
Great choice of word - nonchalant. That's the word for sure.
As for the comment from "T", the only "load of shite" I can see is coming from *you* "T". Was nonchalant too big a word for you? Dumb dumb 😒✌
Unlike now when every single person...wait do we even have real people anymore? Not sure we do, everyone thinks they're a model or "influencer", desperate to pretend they're all perfect and wonderful all the time when they're ALL just rabidly toxic egotists, self-obsessed like never before, increasingly mentally ill and in reality just fighting and trampling over everyone to try and be billionaires at any cost. Not to forget completely co-opted and controlled by global corporations who've now taken over everything to the Nth degree, including people's brains, and everyone just now rolls over and tows the corporate line while believing they're actually helping some sort of magnificent social progress when they're clearly not, merely facilitating more and more corruption and global domination.
Yeah, what a wonderful society we are now eh...🙄The delusional egotism is unbelievable today, off the charts and across the board.
If you were fronting a 90s britpop band it was the law that you had to be suffering from severe malnutrition. (or at least appear to be)
That’ll be the smack
@@andrewt836 for some people it used to be a liquid lunch for these it was a powdered one.
Yeah, and a very annoying affected singing style as well.
Heroin chic
The stance is from pre-teen adoption of the bucket hat. Poorly made bucket hats caused balance issues in under developed spines of young Northern English males, resulting in shoulder muscles pulling to compensate for weak chest muscles.
Fuckn underrated comment
Finally, an informed anatomical justification of the phenomenon
Jesus wept this lol
You’re well funny mate
😂
It was even the main topic of oasis' fourth album 'Standing on a couple of giants with our shoulders back'
I think the slouch was popular with shoegaze and grunge in the early nineties, but Britpop was a reaction against that sort of thing, so decided to go the opposite way. Be smart, be a mod, have good posture.
Wear Fred perry
choose mod, choose fred perry, choose standing with your shoulders too far back
@@tw-xm7vq choose falling back on your trustfund when your band inevitably doesn't work out
@tw-xm7vq are you a mod or a rocker? - no I'm a mocker john lennon 😂
Ha! Beat me to it!
Turned the Albairns against us
ahhhh thats a wee good wan.
👏👌 .. well played Sir, well played.
That's a fucking wild observation 🤣🤣 Who else would even notice this
Dee Dee❤
Karl pilikington…🥸
Limmy is a twisted genius
Me!
It is so funny as I never thought of it but as soon as he said I knew exactly 😂
Love this guy, I don’t always check in on what he’s up to but when I do he makes me laugh
Wishing everyone all the best
You too brother/sister
You too mate
Same here. Not watch him for 6 months and he just pops up now and then 😂
Another attack in limmy’s ongoing crusade against britpop
im loving it.
these bands need be reminded of how they are in the bin of history.
It might look like it's a trendy thing to do standing there with their shoulders back but there's a more sinister reason for it than just a trend.
In the 90's these Indie bands were mostly the product of the Manchester music scene and in particular, Factory Records. All of these bands were kept in a Manchester factory by Tony Wilson. They spent up to 18 hours a day writing and rehearsing music and Wilson fed them a diet of thin gruel and Canal water. As there were no windows in the factory, all of them inevitably ended up with a vitamin D deficiency. The lack of vitamin D and carrying heavy music amps and gear left them pasty faced with weak bones and scoliosis. By the time they made it to Top of the pops, their shoulders and spines were contorted beyond repair.
Many of those 90's band members are now blue badge holders. The next time you see a car in a disabled spot outside Home Bargains, chances are it's Richard Ashcroft from The Verve or Sonya Maden from Echobelly. If you wait long enough for them to come back to their car, just ask them for a picture or an autograph.
If you've read this far down, I'll come clean. I made this $hite up but I'm now stuck with the image in my head of cu*ts hanging around disabled parking spaces waiting for autographs from disabled folk.
Thank god you let us know you that you made this up at the end. Reckon you had a few us getting ready to pop down the local shopping centre! Certainly had me going for a minute there anyway, mate!
Last two paragraphs alone worthy of a Pulitzer,nearly cracked a rib mate,genius.😏
@@rabsrealm good effort
TLDR
Beautiful observation. Like classical form analysis 😂 there’s an entire spectrum of this shite I’m praying you dissect limmy.
He does this stuff all the time
@@Cryin98cos he’s not on his medication.
I recall this posture was in response to the mars bar denial game. Friends used to chuck a mars bar at their friends and the idea was to act cool and tilt backwards and slightly to the side to brush the mars bar off and deflect it, as if to say, no, mars bar, not today.
@@Scouserboots fun size or snack?
Ah... Perhaps that also describes the premise of the film Mars Attacks
I was watching The Hives at Leeds Festival 2002 and 2 guys stood in front of me doing that stance with their hands in the back pockets of their skinny jeans and that pose stuck with me for over 20 years. I had never seen anyone trying so hard to look cool in my life.
festivals do pull out oddballs who dont do gigs and are out of sync with everyone else.
imagine oasis at wembley.
@@Tedbearsharebarecare love the way you've remembered these details for 22 years
Skinny jeans? In 2002?
@@joyzerelly they may have been skinny trousers actually. Because they were trying look like the strokes
Sounds like they had a couple of bad E's?.
They were mad for it in the 90s.
Madchester etc etc
Mad ferret
Limmy is truly in his Grandpa era - gather round children let me tell you a tale of the 90s, So I Tied An Onion To My Belt, Which Was The Style At The Time..
I used to be with it... Then they changed what it was....
I don't say shudders, I say shudders.
Erms and shudders
N. Couple o haun’s
Shidders
Knees n taes
Shooders are connected to the airm bones, airm bones connected to the hawn bones and that's Glaswegian law.
Pretty annoying in't it?
ha ha ha ha ha
I grew up in the 90s - I haven’t been able to shake this habit - I stand around like this before meetings, and when in queues, etc. It annoys me, I annoy me
😂
@@christopherreynolds9254 own it mate you're a rock n roll star
Mick Jagger is to blame #peacocking
Yes, its as if Shed Seven guy saw a photo of Jagger without envisioning him actually moving, so he performs locked in some kind of preening spasm. 😂
That’s what I thought the second he demoed it 😂
My thoughts too. A kind of freeze frame Mick Jagger.
@@ru5t397 prefer the freeze frame version
sadly, this was entirely reversed by the technological boom in the mid-late 2000's of every household having a PC in the living room. It destroyed all our postures and gave us hunchbacks.
I wondered this too. Hunching also over phones leads to rounding of the shoulders I think.
It’s a vital posture for what is known colloquially as the ‘geezer walk’
@@phillbarnes8513 sometimes accompanied by the Liam haircut
These bands were head and especially shoulders above the competition. The NME said so, at the time.
*shooders
That stance was all over every band performance on TFI Friday. TFI Friday is the biggest '90s time capsule out there. The '90s what was all that about
100%. Everyone on TFI did the pigeon chest/shoulder thing.
I'd say it's predecessor 'The Word' rivals it; grunge, shoegaze, riot grrrrl, ravey break beat stuff, rap cross-over etc. While TFI certainly chronicles this later mid-point 'Britpop' spinal part.
Definitely. TFI Friday was like distilled 90s juice.
He’s punching down again
He cannae help it mate
what's a giant to do?
It’s the best way to punch
He's basically saying "Get those shoulders down! Stop bigging your self up!" Pure jealousy on his part.
yes, we need to.
I'm shuddering at the prospect of Limmy teaching biology.
@@mrpon1569 still be better than my old snr school teacher Mr preece
Shuddering... See what you did there
I really needed this laugh this morning Limmy, thank you.
6:09 "es he just got shooders?" LOL
Ay Limmy, they're rubbing it in, flaunting their good posture
Before they turned on 5G
The insouciance of the 90s singers' shoudders.
Pre smart phone. Now everyone’s shoulders are curled forward because they are always hunched over their phones / computers. We are evolving 😮
*devolving
It was an Ian brown thing
@@RossKempOnYourMum01 he was the originator
Brown was only apeing John Lydon.
This is a quality observation.
The album cover for Embrace - The Good Will Out is the most egregious example of this
Indeed. The Mid 90's were peak shoulders/shudders/shooders
Danny McManara leading the way showing off his scapula dyskinesis with swagger 😂
Shoulders and arms back, ironically the opposite of an embrace.
@@peterrobertnixon2243 great shout it really is
@@devonshovel230🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 very very funny. I'm impressed.
isnt it originally a mod thing? roger daltry etc.
I think you're correct. Daltry adopted this pose when performing My generation. Why don't you all.....fade away.
Last survivors of the limbo dancing craze of the early 90s.
Real answer: singers will tend to adopt a stance that gives them more power through the chest, then people see it on telly and copy it
Half right. One icon does something then everyone emulates it. It’s nothing to do with vocal power though.
@@GreggyAck your posture does affect your voice and specifically the power of your voice and nothing else 👍🏻 😂
@@immaculateandstoned Yes, I know, but that’s not why they’re doing it.
@ I do agree with you on that
I feel you man... about your back... I have a 'drop shoulder' - means it looks like my left arm is an inch or so longer than the other two arms. People stare at me sometimes, makes me feel really conscious of it.
Having 3 arms would make me self conscious too 😢
'Other 2 arms' mate?
Then in the 80’s ppl danced with their shoulders 🤣🤣
I know what you mean about the 90’s Jarvis Cocker from Pulp also - tall skinny and ‘shouldery’ 🤣
3:31 ... "Yeh kin see it fae here."
The anger, the passion, the disgust.
Love it. 😂
It's good posture. Singers do this to open the vocal pathway. They teach it in singing tuition.
Cos everyone's shoulders weren't internally rotated from living on their smartphone!
That's funny. Never really thought about that & now I'm going to constantly look for it.
That's just how people's postures were before we got phones and turned into round-shouldered monkeys. :D
my da's always telling me to put my shoulders back
*shooders
Totp sound guys where still setting up mics for TINY people from 70s and 80s. These 90s acts had been on that NEW milk.
People were just underweight and malnourished in the 90s and never lifted weights or exercised. Nutrition hadn’t been discovered yet.
Wearing Fred Perry polo shirts they had to take that stance. The alternative was to look like a dad on a 1970s coach trip.
Its proper singing technique, allows you to project more. Probably.
Blimey, there was I thinking I was the only one who noticed it.
I never really noticed this. What i did notice was vocalists singing into the mic with their hands behind their back, oasis style.
total cringe & worst culprit, was Timmeh from The Charlatans suddenly adopting the Liam style
😂😂😂Tim was doing that in the Charlatans years before Oasis was formed!
@@deegee8645
dancing in the disco bumper to bumper, wait a minute, where's me jumper?
The girl in Echobelly was my first crush.
She made such a big impression you don’t even remember her name.
@MrOtistetrax don't take it personally
I recognized her voice immediately but can’t for the life of me, think of where I know it from. It was definitely a guest spot she did the vocals on for another band. I’d never heard of Echobelly before today
Lovely Sonya
Yeah she's hot
I remember going to my first gig with my older brother. As soon as we walked through the door he started doing this. It confused the hell out of me. Everyone was doing it in there too. Totally baffled
nah man you're kidding 😂😂
Best example of herd mentality, not that there’s anything wrong with identifying as a sheep mind…
Aphex Twin got me through the 90s. His posture is chaotic.
this is the best kind of Limmy-content
you just know this has been bugging him for years, decades
What I do remember from the mid-90s were boy bands and people like Peter Andre who used to wear a jacket unzipped and let one of their shoulders and half their torso slip out so they could show off a glimpse of their six pack.
I wasn’t expecting him to be right about this
I once had a pair of trousers in the 90s, where the pockets felt like they were stitched in too far back, perhaps this was either a cause or a remedy for this shoulder phenomena
As an American, it's so odd seeing these bands for the first time on a show about dominating the charts, because none of them broke big here as far as I know. The music, vibe, and fashion is so alien to me, since in the mid-90s it was all about grunge, post-grunge/alternative, and boy bands.
Some of them did OK in America and has cult followings. However it was a much more British centred rebellion of everything becoming Anericanised at the time particularly music with the grunge and pop music generally. The demise of British guitar bands, too. Which had been so dominant in the 60s & 70s. Britpop as they called it was a resurgence of that for a brief period of the mid 90s.
Jarvis cocker had a wild posture.
Epileptic clothes airer
So true. Rick Witter off of Shed Seven still does it. Jarvis Cocker big one for it.
There’s also the classic pose of the band with everyone stood in background apart from the singer basically leant forward leaning into the camera
@@MovieTrailerDatabaseI remember Charlatans always doing that.
@@intelligenceofacertainkind yeah it was definitely something the Charlatans did. I think early Radiohead did it too.
I would say suede were the kings of this stance. I would say that it might be a way for projecting your voice. But it's deffo put on extra back in the day?
Good shout.
I had actually noticed this about 20 years ago. I was autistic and severely dyspraxic meaning i had terrible posture and couldnt quite figure out how to stand properly.
I had grown up watching all these 90s plonkers with their shudders. They threw me off for sure
On the eve of the millenium during the final countdown we all got ready to retire our spine and shoulders. It was a wonderful moment.
the other night on bbc4 there was some 90s totp, a techno act, literally had their mountain bike on the stage propped up next to the equipment , i could nae find
an explation online.
Was probably needing to dash home thru London after the show
@@mctv7416 yeah it reminded me of me and squatter mates sane vibe but a 10 year gap between us and them.
also the security guard at White City probably was moaning at them 'you cant lock that up here! you cant bring it in here!' gimme a few minutes i will look through ma history to find it.
@@olivere5497 forgot their chain
@@Tsa-SONGS-ABOUT-BEING-a-DAD i keep intending to find the video, but each night i fall asleep at 10pm and wake up at 6am
@@olivere5497 priorities:)
He mustve had a permanent pissed off look during the 90s with the amount of stuff that pissed him aff.
I think they look they are trying to replicate Liam. Almost sniffing the mic shoulders back strut
Aye I see it. She's standing straight and not hunched over which is bad for your back. The 90s gave us healthier spines
This is insane! They've all got their showders back?! WTF!?
Sleeper definitely did this, and Elastica.
Shooder cooder wooder
This was all I can remember from Mid 90s skinny bean poles walking roond wit shoulders back trying to look cool. The analysis is fucking spot on here
It's mostly simply a singing technique, and can be seen many times outside of the nineties. Some individuals particularly in the nineties may have leaned into it on purpose, using it for style, but so many use posture & body movements only for singing technique, making it not completely easy to tell. In my opinion, music has gotten worse since those days, so it seems that we could do with less judgment about how people look on stage, certainly not more judgment. Most of the time it's a genuine singing technique, and is still seen today at live gigs many times. Also, Ocean Colour Scene made some great songs.
Can you please discuss , inwardly pointing feet and jumper fiddling of indie bands ? It’s important to shine a light on this
You mean "shi-yine a liiiiiiight".
Rick Whither still walks likes this
Tim Roth did this on the catwalk recently while modelling for Prada
It's a throwback to the '60s Mod scene.
James Corden’s Carpool Karaoke with Ocean Colour Scene, Limmy combusts with rage.
Topshop had their dummies stood like this for ages.
They just weren’t looking at smart phones.
Damon Albarn kind of did that in the music video to girls and boys
Good call
*Damian
He did it throughout the 90s.
Danyo
Damien Alburn you mean
It's the opposite of shoe gazing 😂
I think you’re onto something here…
It was because the camera added a few pounds to the face, through telephoto lens compression. So to combat it, you did shoulders back, back straight and chin forward. Which in turn gave you a stronger jaw line.
We had to use heavy equipment like yellow pages, kays catalogue, newspapers, videotapes. No wonder we were buff with massive shoulders, we just looked skinny cos of the baggy clothes and awful diets, smoking and metz
It was the style back then with anyone into Brit rock. But the bit Limmy missed was it was about how to wear the shirt. They wanted to look like the shirt was sliding off them. They loved long sleeved anything back then. They'd have their sleeves right down to the knuckles. Anything from long sleeve t-shirts to jumpers.
If you didn't have an oversized Ben Sherman shirt back then, who even were you?
Indeed, but then there was the predecessor of the 'knuckle-sleeve', namely Robert Smith's traily jumper sleeves that had to be crumpled and held inside awkward fists, like a wee boy would have to do in an oversize hand-me-down from his much bigger brother. (Don't start me.)
Genius observation as usual from Limmy
Haha! Not something I’ve ever given much thought to limmy, far too many other things about people in general that annoy me , but that’s a new one for me to look out for I suppose 😂 thanks 👍
My mates' da pulled me in in like 91 or something and was like ffs lad POSTURE! Get your shoulders back and stand up straight! I got really self-conscious about it
My mate said that to me a few months ago. I've got a reminder on my phone now on my notepad. Chest out, shoulders back. My posture is getting better 🤣
@@Novotny72 I'm imagining him as a drill sergeant from it ain't half hot mom
Shoulders back, hips forwards, arms limp, chin up, fake skinny fit Ralph Lauren button down and loafers.
Yeah. The hips forward/arms limp is the overlooked part of the aesthetic. The shoulders weren't doing all the work on their own.
Diabolical look.
@@BigAl426 Ben Sherman and Clarks wallabees
Definitely a 90s indie stance. Like the facing inward feet of the 00s
Yes. Indie clubs in the 00s was full of people with their feet facing inwards. Bizarre really, when you think about it. Maybe the pointy shoes naturally made it happen
Mazzy Star n all
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Rebelling against the "Ozzy Slouch" whilst singing hippy-ish "lady daa's" was the punk of the 90s.