I'd buy a random spring assortment at the hardware store and hope to get a matching spring. . Looking at the bottom on a suzo-happ arcade button, press toward eachother the two tabs on the bottom to separate it from the body. Find (or cut) a spring of the same diameter to replace it. You can also take two of the same springs (from old buttons) and mesh them together to get 2x the spring force.
You can also look up the Kowal actuator if you use a Sanwa JLF. It's about 4 bucks, but it's worth it. I bought it with an added 2 pound spring. I tried it, my hand started cramping, and then I removed the spring and put the stock spring back in with the kowal modifier. It's just about perfect for shmups now, and super comfortable.
@@RetroBuiltGames I did it with my chinese copy of sanwa. It reduces the dead zone and solved the problem with the diagonals, that wasn't triggering two switches at same time, simple and effective. 👍
Is that a Sanwa microswitch that you are opening? I'm asking because I want to add hinges to them so they will feel more like an old school lever. I have always thought the hinges are more effective than a gate for guaranteeing accuracy to diagonal motions. I'm asking all that because I still can't get used to the Sanwa JLF, no matter which parts I change - actuator, spring, restrictor plate.
@@RetroBuiltGames I'm not familiar with the term, so I did a Google search for "leaf switches" and no, that's not what I'm talking about. That's a completely new style to me! What I'm talking about is the hinges, the little metal pieces that are placed right above the switches in Korean models and the Seimitsus. This kind of microswitches were used in the arcades here in my country, but I can't use one of those right now because they aren't compatible with the equipment I'm using right now. My idea is to make my Sanwa JLF as similar as possible to a Seimitsu, Korean lever or one of our old school joysticks, since they all have hinges over the microswitches. All of that is because I still can't get used to how a Sanwa JLF works, and I believe the microswitches are the biggest reason. I modded it in every readily possible way - springs, actuators, restrictor plate, but none of that gave me the desired results. The plan is to add hinges and and a properly sized actuator. Maybe I will just buy a spare JLF PCB and experiment with it. I hope I was clear, English is not my first language. Thanks for answering!
Can you refresh this video, with higher production? Maybe touch on a normal Sanwa JLF VS a Sanwa JLF with Cherry switches? That's a comparison I've to, yet you can buy them pre installed with Cherry
I'm interested in buying my own 3D printer ... Didy ou use AutoCad or Autodesk Inventor for designing the actuator ? I'm planing to use Autodesk inventor. Does every 3D printer allow using those professional software programs like AutoCad or Autodesk Inventor or do most of the 3D printers just allow using their bundled 3D-printer software. Thanks in advance ? Btw.: Which 3D printer did you use for printing the actuator and what kind of material did you use (PLA or ABS) ?
please help me I have bought same joystick I don't know how to connect with wire I need help I have usb pc joystick I don't no which wire should join which wire
say if I have a stick where the microswitches aren't soldered on, are they easily removed and replaced? I have this PS2/PS3/PC stick and one of the microswitches on it gave out, so I've been looking into replacing it (or possibly getting four and just replacing them all in one shot.) I'm also curious about if I need to use a specific microswitch or not or if they're more or less interchangable?
Ryan Bates ahh thanks for the reply! I asked around online and one page on FB recomended one switch in particular so I may have to see about ordering from there soon see if that will work with my controller.
I've just bought a RAP 4 hybussa it seems a bit lose I need to tighten make it firm I'll try the spring method although I don't have a place to redesign great video! Any suggestion pls
STEP 1: Replacing all the microswitches with ones THAT DON'T FREAKING MAKE CLICKY SOUNDS. I'm starting to get parts to make a home arcade, and MAN is it a bitch finding controllers and buttons of the classic, silent, arcade "leaf" style.
All you need is add some grease like wd 40 in to that button but better to oil thrm little bit up cause wd40 can help but can damage too it cleans everything
Excellent video explanation. This had everything that I needed to know. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Hey I know this is an old video but how do you replace/add springs to an arcade button?
I'd buy a random spring assortment at the hardware store and hope to get a matching spring. . Looking at the bottom on a suzo-happ arcade button, press toward eachother the two tabs on the bottom to separate it from the body. Find (or cut) a spring of the same diameter to replace it. You can also take two of the same springs (from old buttons) and mesh them together to get 2x the spring force.
no offence but how is it a simple modification if I need to use a 3D printer to reduce my deadzone? I aint got that shit kicking around
+Riddle Nanngi tape also works....
+Ryan Bates good idea...
You can also look up the Kowal actuator if you use a Sanwa JLF. It's about 4 bucks, but it's worth it. I bought it with an added 2 pound spring. I tried it, my hand started cramping, and then I removed the spring and put the stock spring back in with the kowal modifier. It's just about perfect for shmups now, and super comfortable.
@@RetroBuiltGames I did it with my chinese copy of sanwa. It reduces the dead zone and solved the problem with the diagonals, that wasn't triggering two switches at same time, simple and effective. 👍
@@RetroBuiltGames have u tried tape
hello , are you sharing your 3d print for joystik z-stop ? , thanks for your video
Please tell me where you got that JST H5P-SHF-AA black connector housing.
Would you mind sharing the 3D printer files/download link with your followers?
Ryan, Have you posted your 3d models for reducing the dead zone on the joystick?
Is that a Sanwa microswitch that you are opening? I'm asking because I want to add hinges to them so they will feel more like an old school lever. I have always thought the hinges are more effective than a gate for guaranteeing accuracy to diagonal motions. I'm asking all that because I still can't get used to the Sanwa JLF, no matter which parts I change - actuator, spring, restrictor plate.
yes this is a sanwa joystick. are you referring to leaf switches?
@@RetroBuiltGames I'm not familiar with the term, so I did a Google search for "leaf switches" and no, that's not what I'm talking about. That's a completely new style to me!
What I'm talking about is the hinges, the little metal pieces that are placed right above the switches in Korean models and the Seimitsus. This kind of microswitches were used in the arcades here in my country, but I can't use one of those right now because they aren't compatible with the equipment I'm using right now.
My idea is to make my Sanwa JLF as similar as possible to a Seimitsu, Korean lever or one of our old school joysticks, since they all have hinges over the microswitches. All of that is because I still can't get used to how a Sanwa JLF works, and I believe the microswitches are the biggest reason. I modded it in every readily possible way - springs, actuators, restrictor plate, but none of that gave me the desired results. The plan is to add hinges and and a properly sized actuator. Maybe I will just buy a spare JLF PCB and experiment with it.
I hope I was clear, English is not my first language. Thanks for answering!
I got a sanwa stick but with no 5 pin cable. Can I solder the microswitches using the wires that my motherboard has?
i really wish you 'd share the 3d model of the actuator..
Can you refresh this video, with higher production? Maybe touch on a normal Sanwa JLF VS a Sanwa JLF with Cherry switches? That's a comparison I've to, yet you can buy them pre installed with Cherry
Thank you! Have a Great New Year with good health and peace to you and your family!
I'm interested in buying my own 3D printer ...
Didy ou use AutoCad or Autodesk Inventor for designing the actuator ? I'm planing to use Autodesk inventor.
Does every 3D printer allow using those professional software programs like AutoCad or Autodesk Inventor or do most of the 3D printers just allow using their bundled 3D-printer software.
Thanks in advance ?
Btw.: Which 3D printer did you use for printing the actuator and what kind of material did you use (PLA or ABS) ?
please help me I have bought same joystick I don't know how to connect with wire I need help I have usb pc joystick I don't no which wire should join which wire
Can you swap out and replace parts in the switches?
Great Video. You deserve more views. Thank you
Did you post it on Thingiverse? or could you put a link up. I want to print out a couple. Thanks
Good video! can you leave a link to download the print file?
say if I have a stick where the microswitches aren't soldered on, are they easily removed and replaced? I have this PS2/PS3/PC stick and one of the microswitches on it gave out, so I've been looking into replacing it (or possibly getting four and just replacing them all in one shot.) I'm also curious about if I need to use a specific microswitch or not or if they're more or less interchangable?
They are likely easy to replace. Most micro switches are interchangeable.
Ryan Bates ahh thanks for the reply! I asked around online and one page on FB recomended one switch in particular so I may have to see about ordering from there soon see if that will work with my controller.
had that problem, switched the UP swith for the Right one that was kinda faulty and problem solved! ofc that was a temporaly solution
don't chew gum while doing a video.
AGREED. Apart from that, a great video.
really bad
I've just bought a RAP 4 hybussa it seems a bit lose I need to tighten make it firm I'll try the spring method although I don't have a place to redesign great video! Any suggestion pls
maybe you could use washers to increase the spring tension
man this is great stuff thanks for your hard work!
will rotating the micro switch on a sanwa joystick affect the directional input?
I am not sure how you are rotating the switch....
very nice could you share the 3d model please?
What brand is the best microswitch in your opinion ?
In my - not insignificant - experience, you really can't go wrong with Cherry switches.
can you please post the .stl files for the parts?
you mean to me us that you can play games without a spring....... that's beast
I can't remove the restrictor for the life of me, I have the same model that you do, but the thing almost seems to be glued on
Nvm, I used a screwdriver trick to remove it
Flazir lol
Thanks for the tips
Great video!
Thanks for making this nice educational vidya
Get to know your arcade parts! Custom joystick parts and troubleshooting.
STEP 1: Replacing all the microswitches with ones THAT DON'T FREAKING MAKE CLICKY SOUNDS. I'm starting to get parts to make a home arcade, and MAN is it a bitch finding controllers and buttons of the classic, silent, arcade "leaf" style.
switches are pretty cheap, dont waste your time trying to diagnose and repair a faulty one.
All you need is add some grease like wd 40 in to that button but better to oil thrm little bit up cause wd40 can help but can damage too it cleans everything
Lol