Sanwa vs Hayabusa Vs Seimitsu Review Detail Comparison 2019 HD
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- Sanwa vs Hayabusa Vs Seimitsu Review Detail Comparison
Here is a detail comparison review of the sanwa vs hayabusa vs seimitsu joystick and button, hope this answer some of the question people have, if you have any other questions, feel free to leave a comment below #sanwa #seimitsu #hori #arcadestick
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I'm a sim pilot and I only discovered this channel when I accidentally mistyped "fight stick" instead of "flight stick" 😅 but by now I have binged almost all of your videos and I don't even play fighting games. Very informative and interesting 👍
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Not a sim game as such but I've played ace combat 7 with a mayflash and it wasn't perfect but kind of fun if you don't have a fully fledged flight stick
Well who knows? Someday you might fly fighter planes.
I heard they use fight sticks there
kidding aside, that's a really funny mistake or serendipity
Haha, I know that feeling when you fall into random rabbit holes!
Funny thing is Sanwa used to make analog levers designed for flight games. I don't know if it was discontinued but there is a possibility you could buy them.
This is how a TH-cam tutorial should be. Very clear, well articulated and great detailed information. Learnt information about the buttons I was not even aware I needed but is essential in button choice selection.
Thank you for the kind words 🙏🙏🙏 appreciate the support ❤️🕹
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But which is best
LIKE for Sanwa Users
JoyStickNY 🙋🏾♂️
Thank you for watching 🙏
Never tried anything other than Sanwa, and I never will, if it works why mess with it.
I was surprised by Seimitsu's lever switches though, nice idea.
However if anybody has trouble hitting diagonals precisely, this can be fixed by having the actuator closer to the switches, I put a little bit of tape around mine to do add volume and it works flawlessly.
You have a point, but u never know if it will be even better for you 🤣 gotta explore all your options
FIlho Da Puta really that’s something I been having a hard time with because I feel like the hayabusa. It’s like the hayabusa needs more unnecessary precision. Another thing I came from smash bros and the reason why is that terry sort of became my mains and I want to dwell in the garuo, and kof series because of the lore and how cool the game looks. So the square gate for me feels restrictive to since am not use to playing in the gate either. I feel the octagonal feels more at home for since its feels like a GameCube octagonal notches... and I sort of ride the notches for terry’s inputs for his specials. So I honestly thing Sawna is the way to go for me but the sawna buttons insistently won me over too sounds very satisfying.
Seimitsu is underrated. They have an incredible line-up of joysticks that are super reliable. It is just very hard to find joysticks that come stock with them, so Sanwa has kind of won the stick popularity war by default. LS-56 plus octogate, and bat top is as almost like a hybrid American and Japanese style, very fun.
Most definately underrated. My favorite is the LS-32 for arcade games in general and LSX-Nobi-STD(with a ball top) for fighting games specifically.
Sanwa is more common in the arcades too. Pretty much every arcade cabinet has Sanwas but that doesn't mean they are better than Seimitsu products, it just means they are arcade owner friendly, meaning they are simpler, it doesn't take many seconds to swap a new PCB, and they fit all kinds of games (but isn't specialized i any one type of game).
The Seimitsu LS-32 was the most used stick in the most popular cabinets from Street Fighter II (93) till about 95-96 but there was a nation wide Virtua Fighter tournament and a Sanwa JLF was mandatory in the rules of the tournament (clever trick by Sanwa) and after the tournament every arcade in Japan had the JLF and it just stayed that way.
Very true 👍
Great information, i love the seimitsu, but Somwtimes it just wont fit in certain sticks
!!!! Octagate and bat top is love!!!! Started playing FGC's on american Street fighter vs capcom 2 and I mostly remember playing bat top/octa gate as a kid and not ball/square gate. Was a weird transition when I bought my first "real" stick back in the day. My how time flies.
The seimetsu LSX-01Nobi Pro is by far my favorite Japanese lever, although I'm more of a Korean lever guy.
Hi! So I've slowly been getting into fight sticks over the last couple of years and your channel has been a huge help. You're putting out top-tier content, man. I doubt there's a better breakdown of these components on the internet. Congrats and thanks!
Thank you so much, i will continue to make more videos 🙏❤️
Simple and to the point. I like sir.
Alex Nostalgix thank you so much
@@JoystickNY hey man I have a Qanba Drone and I would like to buy a Seimitsu stick to customize my Drone.. I play Tekken so diagonal precision input is important. does the Drone fit the Seimitsu? If not the Obsidian fits it? I'm planning of buying the Obsidian in the near future
Shiki the seimitsu is abit too big, there is not enough room, i dont think any of the models fits the qanba drone
This is the best video on comparisons between joysticks and buttons I’ve seen so far. Thank you! Great job and keep up the great work!
Thank you so much 🙏
Excellent review!!! Everything I wanted to know in one video 🙌🏼 keep up the good work!
EddyV9 thank you so much 🙏🙏🙏❤️ glad it can help
Nice video! Well done with the in depth comparisons and examples. Appreciate your time and effort.
Breezy Nagga thank you ❤️🕹
Thank you for the info man I’m new to joysticks and found this info very useful
Mikekatsu more videos on the way, lets grow and learn together, thank you for stopping by
Underrated fighting game channel.
I don't play fighting games but I enjoy watching videos about it. First time I've actually understood everything from start to finish. Normally I'd get lost in all the fighting game terms.
Uriel thank you so much 🙏🙏🙏 appreciate love and support ❤️
Very informative video, this is the kinda channel I needed. Subbed!
WarriorFromAnUnknownLand 🙏 thank you so much for the support 🙏❤️
I don't really know anything about this stuff, so this video was very helpful and informative in not only explaining the difference between the main three, but also how these kinds of things actually work!
Thank you so much 🙏❤️
LIKE for Seimitsu Users
ALL DAY!!!! 💯💯💯
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Seimitsu buttons with Korean levers for me
TheWutang1995 sounds like a good combination, i gotta pick up a few korea lever later on and do some reviews
@@JoystickNY absolutely love them for Tekken! Nice review by the way
Now I'm watching every your video and I'm learning. And thank you because every of your video is detailed. This is what you call real content!
Thank you so much 🙏 welcome to the channel ❤️
GREAT comparison of the 3 joystick makes ! Makes perfect sense to get all 3….thnx for the tips & excellent walk through !
This video was suuuper helpful, wanted to say thanks!
Breanna any time my friend, glad to help 🙏 thank you for dropping by
LIKE for Hayabusa Users
JoyStickNY I started off with the Rap4, and love the feel of the Hayabusa Stick, but not so much the buttons. Too sensitive for my liking, so I replaced them with the Sanwas.
Then I was able to get a TE2+ and I got to see how that felt and I have to say, the only difference I noticed between the two sticks was the audible sound of the switches. The Hayabusa is a bit more quieter than the JLF.
And I agree, it’s all personal preference at the end of the day. The thing that matters the most is response time from the PCB, in my opinion.
Thank you for sharing, i am reverse of you, i like the sanwa stick and hayabusa buttons 😂
JoyStickNY Lol that’s funny! Well, as of late I’ve been playing more on the Panthera Evo, and I’m liking Razers buttons a lot! Just wish they sold them separately in case one of them goes out?
LGTMT22 yea, unfortunately they dont, which is strange. They are very similar to sanwa. If they break, you can go for sanwa. 🙏❤️
I think hayabusa for hitbox LDR definitely
Your videos are excellent and from a guy who is new to modding I really appreciate the time you've taken to explain to us in detail the way these components work
Thank you so much ❤️🙏 i will continue to make more to help the community
Simple but straight to the point! good video!!
Cleber De Camargo thank you for dropping by 🙏❤️
Good video. Keep grinding. Sorry to see you broke the door on your RAP4 Kai. I’ve kept mine on, was aware of how easy they break.
Akkbar yea, i bought this one off a frd and he said he lost that cover, i hardly put the cables back in anyway, not too bad lol
I enjoyed the video very much.
Tip for those interested: Change the lever spring (easy job) and you can decide on any of the joysticks how you'd prefer it to feel. I gotta hayabusa with sweet tightness
Also you can replace the upper rings on all of these to either fatten your stick at the base or slim it down, thus increasing or decreasing the throw.
With hayabusa controllers I also bought cheap quality spacers on the actual switches bringing the actuator closer to the stick.
Like he said, it's all about how you feel about it. I do recommend hayabusa because if you likely have a Sanwa then you can actually benefit from both.
You don't need to spend another 60 bucks on any of these because they all have the same efficiencies with 10 dollar upgrades.
Easy example, those hexagon parts that assist with rotation are also sold with the same idea of fattening or slimming the lower end of the stick down by increasing and decreasing the actuators ability to read input, simply by distance.
I hit up focus attacks website, after I discovered I could have it all and custom to boot :)
Thank you so much for this nice comment, appreciate you 🙏❤️
Excelent showcase! I learned a lot from this comparission, Thanks!!!
thank you for watching 🙏❤️
This gentleman has the best arcade fighting sticks channel on TH-cam, wish you well sir, great video.
Thank you for the kind words; i will be back soon,
Awesome Video, all the details we need to make a wise choice, thx again :D
Your very welcome my friend, thank you for the love and support 🙏
This channel deserves 10x more subs and views, best channel on YT for new fgc ppl, much love brother keep up the great work!
thank you for the support 🙏❤️ i will keep doing my best
Great video! This information, especially the level of detail you provide, was exactly what I was looking for. I was about to order a full 2-Player arcade set of Sanwa for the Raspberry Pi Cab I'm building. Mainly because that's all I'd ever used and it's the brand everyone talks about. But I'd always wished both the stick and buttons had a more substantial feel.. Having watched your video a few times, I'm pretty sure Seimitsu will suit my preferences much better; chonky feel and a deeper sound. This saved me a lot of trial and error! Thank you! :D
thank you for the support 🙏❤️
One thing i must say this is the most informative and unbiased review i have seen so far.
I would like to get the Seimetsu LS-40 and the IL Eurostick for testing.
Thank you 🙏 for the love and support, all 3 brands brings something different to the table. Definitely try them out and see if you like them, you wont know which one fits your style until you tried it, i started with sanwa, and it felt great, after i used hayabusa, i like it even more. And i tried octa gate and square gate for a bit, and realized i am more comfortable with square better. ❤️
@@JoystickNY Im from the old school so I would like to get the round gate and a joystick that gives a retro arcade feel. I have a square gate in my present setup (stock) and it give me hell when i place the classic street fighter games (Hyper, Turbo etc.). NEO GEOs KOF series those type of stuff.
Daryl Neptune gotcha, round gates are excellent too, if you are comfortable with round, i would say go for it, i used to play alot of king of fighters on round gates too, i grew up using round gates in chinatown fair arcade in nyc
Thanks bro,
I'm just thinking of personalizing my first arcade stick since its not working for me. This really helped me a lot.
Keep it up! :D
edison baylon anytime my friend, thank you for watching 🙏❤️
can you please cover this new Hori stick. this is my arcade stick for the meantime. I haven't seen any reviews for this yet. hori.jp/products/p4/fighting_stick/
Thats a cool stick, i havent seen that one my self; i ll see if i can get a hold of that one 👍
Thanks! :D I hope you can get one :D
Awesome video! You covered a lot more than most comparisons. This inspires me for my own arcade stick vids. I really need to buy a seimitsu again. I had one years ago but I dont think I have one anymore. Variety is fun
misterkeebler thank you so much 🙏🙏🙏
misterkeebler thank you so much 🙏🙏🙏
You are the best fight stick teacher bro! I followed your 8bitdo tutorial for modding my first stick, and now this vid helped me learn the differences of these joysticks so I can choose one for my DIY full custom build! Hope you are well man, wish you the best! :)
Thank you so much, i am very happy to hear that 😊❤️
Thank you for the great video! Unbiased, detailed, very informative. Answered all the questions I had! Looking forward to more of your videos. I've been liking my Sanwa joystick but I'm going to get an 8-way gate for it as I'm having some difficulty hitting diagonals consistently and I think that might help. I'm experiencing my Sanwa buttons triggering from just resting my fingers on them and am thinking about getting some Seimitsu. Do you think that would help prevent accidental button pushes?
First thank you, btw which game are you having trouble with diagonals? Tekken? And yes An octa gate will help with diagonals. If you have time, record your hands playing an arcade stick for like 1 minute, on a street fighter game or tekken, i would love to see your movements. Post it on your youtube channel or twitter, I havent experience self trigger button from resting yet, i use hayabusa button which is more sensitive, but if you go seimitsu, i think it will help with resting trigger, but seimitsu is quite stiff, it really changes
Someones play style. But if you dont mind giving it a shot, buy 4 or 6 off like ebay and see how it feels. 🙏❤️
@@JoystickNY You're welcome! Games I'm playing are mostly Soul Calibur 6 but also Street Fighter 5 and Tekken 7, along with some Injustice 2 and Guilty Gear Xrd Revelator. I traditionally have liked Soul Calibur and Tekken the best in the past. I thought I'd try a little of everything since recently getting inspired to play fighting games again, try to see which one I want to focus on. So far I would say it's probably a tie between T7 and SF5, with SC6 edging them out by a small margin since I added 2B as a character (NieR Automata is a GREAT game!).
I just got a Razer Panthera, Dragonball version (it was on clearance at a local game store - I don't care how it looks, it was the only one in town!) for PS4 and so far I'm really liking it - huge improvement over dualshock 4 controllers. I have always struggled with executing almost everything with the controllers (any default controller for any given console) in fighting games. Most of my input problems have been solved with the Panthera except for diagonals and now the occasional accidental button triggering. I plan to add the gate to the stick and swap out the Sanwa buttons (and their stickers - I don't know who thought putting stickers on buttons was a good idea but I don't want to simply peel the stickers off) with either normal Sanwa or perhaps Seimitsu buttons.
From your video and a couple other sources, it seems like the Seimitsu buttons might help. I think I'm going to get both. Oh, the diagonals I'm having trouble with are the quarter-circle inputs needed for so many moves. I can get the initial down motion 100% but then I end up going past the 90 degree Right and getting a diagonal up/right (for example). I'm also struggling to hit JUST the diagonals for blocking/crouching/jumping. I just think a gate swap would help. Something to try, anyway. Thanks!
WolframitE red Wow thats amazing you are juggling so many different games, street fighter is my favorite genre, then marvel vs capcoms, then king of fighters, recently playing tekken7, i also play alot of hearthstone, dota underlord on the side, but fighting game is my favorite genre, btw my video on how to use an arcade stick is in the making. A few viewers ask me to show them how how i use a stick, Should be out in 1 week, hopefully it can give you reference. And about your stick, as long as the parts inside are good, its good enough, and you can always replace them and they be good as new, i always buy used sticks off friends and just replace the stick n buttons.
Choosing the right stick is so important (I play Street fighter Third Strike). I started off using a terrible stick, thinking I am a terrible player (the stick was an old ps2 stick, the travel on the stick was extremely far but the resistance was very low), this resulted in me being able to move the character fairly quickly but not do quick special moves. The second stick I had, the resistance was really high, but the travel was super low, this resulted in me accidentally jumped instead of blocking and trying to do special moves was near impossible cause the resistance was so high.
Xbox hori stick (cheapo) was actually pretty good, the buttons were cheap and broke but the stick wasnt too bad.
Final stick was Xbox Razor Atrox. I swapped the buttons out with sanwas (only for aesthetics) and it was the perfect stick !!!
If anyone understands this, the latter two sticks were the only ones I could do Urien's Tackle/Tackle/Headbutt (which I find is a very hard wall combo to perfect).
Great info my friend, thank you for letting the community know ❤️🙏
Hi ! Thanks for this very clear video. Very well explained and very pedagogical. Hope for an episode 2.
AD there will be down the road, episode 2 will probably compare razer buttons and gamers fingers buttons, and episode 3 will be probably on korean parts. 🙏 thank you for watching
Man I love your videos! My venom's coming this Thursday im super excited! Just by this video I like the look and idea of the semitsu
Jason Lant enjoy it brother 👍 venom is a great start
If my keyboard is any indication of how often I'll be cleaning my arcade stick, I'll be cleaning the arcade controller about 0 times a year.
Me too lol i never clean my keyboard that much, but i try not to eat and use it at the same time, so it doesnt get dirty ❤️
If you want optimal smoothness on your stick's pivot and increase it's life it should be re-greased once a year with silicone grease because the grease will oxidise and be useless after that. Sanwa uses Shin-Etsu G-40M and Seimitsu uses Shin-Etsu G-501.
Some never re-grease and are happy but i do it every year to all my sticks
Speaking of that, you reminded
Me to buy a shin-etsu, mine is running low like tooth paste 😂🙏❤️
I'm new to fight sticks. But I got an old ps3 stick used on Easter. I had to piece it together but it works. Ordered a new Sanwa JLF and a new gate. I noticed the buttons seemed inconsistent, done buttons had more stiffness, I opened them all up and cleaned them with rubbing alcohol and they all feel much better now.
Bogart Gaming & Tech sounds good 👍 i am going to make a cleaning video on them soon, mine is getting dirty ❤️🙏
Thank you for the detailed overview video on this 3 brands. It help me quite abit in deciding parts to go for.
Happy to help
This is actually the first video I watched when I just got into arcade sticks ❤️
Thank you for the support 🙏❤️
WHO ARE THE SANWA USERS HERE? HAYABUSA? SEITMITSU ? RAISE YOUR HANDS, Let everyone know your combination, Actually Lets do a comment poll
This was exactly what I was looking for. My Fiance has a Hori stick and I kinda started enjoying the Hayabusa better than Sanwa, however I think I might get Hori buttons as well.
Just wanted to see what were the differences on built quality.
Thank you so much 🙏❤️ i am glad this video was able to help, hayabusa is my favorite, i love sanwa too, seimitsu is abit too stiff for my style cuz my movements are very light.
I use Hayabusa buttons and stick, I've got Sanwa like most, but I just prefer the Hori setup. I wish I knew this when I started, took me a while to swap from Sanwa.
Regular Original same here, i like hori setup and hayabusa, i love sanwa too, but if there is a hayabusa around, i ll prefer the hayabusa, i like the sensitivity of it and i feel that it is slightly smoother than the sanwa. Thank you for sharing ❤️🙏
@@JoystickNY I can actually piano with hori sticks, all the time while I was playing 4 I struggled to piano with sanwa buttons.
I need to complete KOF. For my it begins with building an arcade stick. This is best video so far, the others just give disapointment.
Thank you for the kind words 🙏❤️
I also play KOF a lot. So which buttons, joystick, configuration did you finally select? Please let me know, thanks!!
I use the top 4 buttons as ABCD
Excellent video. I learned a lot by it. Thank you!
Emil glad it was helpful, thank you for watching 🙏😊
Thanks for all your instructional videos. I am very new to arcade sticks and have found your knowledge very useful.
Thank you , happy to hear it helps 👍😊
Thanks for the comparison video.
Got a Hori fighting edge and gave the Hori parts a shot after years of sanwa usage. The Hori parts are great. Love the stick, and love the buttons for the same reason you mention at the end of the video.
The sanwa jlf microswitches can be relatively high maintenance, and the pivot requires regular greasing. The v cut cam seems like it will require less greasing but we will see how it goes.
alexj0101 Nice, 👍thats a nice stick, i love hayabusa ❤️ . I cant wait when the ps5 is release and new sticks are release.
Thanks for the video! Maybe it's worth mentioning how sensitive the hayabusa buttons actually are. I've seen friends of mine surprised that just resting their hands on the buttons actually registers inputs. They seem to be lower when compared to others.
Great info, they r very sensitive, happens to me alot when i rest finger on it
Dude this video is insane good. Totally sold me on the Sanwa.
I am happy to hear the videos helps, thank you for watching 🙏❤️
The video is long but very detail and straight to point.
Yea😂 it was a bit long, thank you for watching 🙏I wanted to go through most of the details, that way it will answer most of peoples questions 🎄😊 happy holidays
Additionally; awesome video! This is basically all the information I needed to know for when I have money to build an ideal fight stick.
Currently using a set of Chinese knock-offs built into a USPS Priority mail cardboard box. $40 for two sets of buttons and sticks. And the joystick, as well as the buttons, are looser than a politician's ethics.
Thats almost the same price as a qanba drone and mayflash f300, but it certainly a good experience 🙏 thank you for watching
@@JoystickNY Thanks again for the great video and getting back to me!
One quick question: where would you recommend to shop for joystick parts? I'll check your channel to see if you have any reviews once I get back to my computer.
Facey Neck i rotate around, focus attack; arcade shock, ebay and amazon, depending if i need a lot or something small. Cuz ebay and amazon usually dont have shipping fee, and other website usually have to buy alot to make the shipping worth it
@@JoystickNY Awesome, amigo. I'll check out what they have on offer.
I use hayabusa buttons and a Sanaa JLF with the octogate
Cool video and info I’m picking up the Hori Kai Ps4 it’s first fighting stick
M M that is a great stick, it is around $150, keep in mind that stick is not sanwa parts. If you are buying it to swap to sanwa, i dont recommend that stick, i would recommend getting the sf5 razer panthera, is $199 and it is alot easier to mod and open up. The panthera is prob one of the best sticks for its price and design.
The hori kai 4 is hayabusa parts.
Joystick NY Cool I’m in Canada so the prices are a little more expensive but I’ll check the price thanks 🙏🏽.
M M yea, cuz if you dont mind spending the extra 50$ish, you will be more happy with the panthera, it will last you a long time. Only get kai4 if you are a hayabusa user, cuz at any point if you mod it to sanwa, you coulda spent that money difference on the panthera
M M btw i am going to make a video about the panthera real soon too
Just ordered Sanwa for my cabinet build!
The Zippy joysticks I installed are far too loose and soft with too much travel before activating the switches.
I also ordered the 4lb stronger springs and the bushes to reduce travel before the switches are activted.
Still a cheaper option than Seimitsu joysticks.
Haven't tried them yet but thank you JoyStickNY you have doubled down on my theory for buying the Sanwa with extra springs and bushes.
You can guess by now, I prefer the tighter game play joystick!
Great video, very clear and concise,
thanks again.
Thank you 🙏❤️ someday i would like to build a cabinet too 😊
very clear, comprehensive and articulated, excellent video
thank you for the support 🙏❤️
All people who tried the Simetsu joystick agreed it was the best in the market right now
Yea, it is definitely really good, 👍 i use all 3 lol
Oh my god! So many thanks for the Joystick inside-out man! I've been struggling so much with my diagonals on my Sanwa Joystick. Now it all makes sense and I'm definitely going with Seimitsu! :)
L5R_Dydra thank you for watching, 🙏❤️ oh? What are you struggling with on sanwa?
In anime games diagonals are especially important for forward jump cancels. Seimitsu seems like it will give me an easier time having the metal pieces making the clicks instead =)
I have a question though. Don't know if to select Seimitsu LS-32-01 or Ls-40-01 for my Venom Arcade Stick. More details here
www.reddit.com/r/fightsticks/comments/c4knl1/venom_arcade_stick_switching_sanwa_joystick_with/
L5R_Dydra the Ls32 & ls40 have the same spring,
Ls40 shaft is slightly longer, it has slightly less tension. But very minimal difference. You may not even notice the difference. but people say ls40 feels smoother than the ls32 because it has a upgraded pivot design, hope that helps
@@JoystickNY Thanks! Actually I was worried about the mounting. It seems this "plating" that comes with the stick ( not sure what SS and SE are ), doesn't fit on my arcade stick model ( Venom Arcade Stick my base is called ). So you have to remove the plating and mount it directly into the case. Not sure what that means, but people say that's the way to go.
At least for the LS-32-01. Also there is a difference between LS-32 and LS-32-01, the later being a 5pin (which is what I need I guess).
My main worry is, if such direct mounting will lead to poorer experience or any other problems.
A lot of specifics, but I'm ordering the parts from Germany and it will cost me a while, so I'm trying to learn as much as I can.
I agree, always do the research before buying n modding, what games are you mainly playing with it?
The channel vids is helping me alot, since Ken Bogard french fighting's game commentator brought me the taste of game's i want my own stick, with you im about to mod a mayflash wisely!!
Thanks i will enjoy street 6 !!!!!!!
Thanks for doing this really detailed and informative video. you present your info in a very simple and straightforward way and it is appreciated. i'd love to see more content.
FunnyBrendan thank you so much 🙏 definitely going to create more content like these
Just discovered your channel but, I am NOT going anywhere, great review, great video, subscribed!!!!
slingshotcrazy thank you so much for the support 🙏❤️ appreciate you
Perfect review
Thank you, its abit long and boring, but i feel if anyone watches it, they dont have to watch another video. 🙏 thank you for passing by
This is quality stuff. You just earned a subscriber man.
Appreciate the support 🙏
bro you are truly passionate for sticks
10/10
강민철 thank you so much ❤️🙏
i haven't tried the hori hayabusa joystick yet, but my favorite joystick in this video is the ls 32 seimitsu because it's easier to make diagonal inputs compared to a Sanwa jlf, and the movement feels more precise
Nordicus0114 great comment, thank you for passing by
@@JoystickNY no prob, the ls 32 is also pretty good for 2d shoot em up games, and i just modded a eightarc qanba stick with all Seimitsu parts
I bought a Hori Fighting Edge recently, which uses a hayabusa joystick, I was not a fan. It felt very loose at center, so I had issues going right left without deadzone issues, and doing forward-forwards was pretty tricky. The hayabusa buttons matte finish has GREAT tactile feel and I like how rounded they are and how easy they are to actuate, but the sound of them kills me not just for aesthetic reasons but because I have issues understanding if I've double-tapped or single tapped - but definitely that matte finish was GREAT.
I ended up sending it back because the stick was making me lose my mind, but.... I could see users who do dramatic inputs liking it, it's just that deadzone in the center killed me. For instance charge characters it might actually be really good.
Y'know, just one guys input.
Try the LS-40 next. It has the same exact parts as an LS-32 and LS-38 but the bottom part is thicker that gives it a shorter throw (it's not too short) and at the same time eliminates the the ball joint from briefly going too far in the socket. You can feel the 32 popping out of socket at the edges if lightly pressing past the stopper. I have two of every Seimitsu there is and then i have twelve LS-40 and it's pretty much the only stick i will ever use.
n response to your comment, I got the Razer Pantera Evo with a Stock Sanwa JLF lever and .9lb and Square gate. From the moment I took it out of the box I have felt it has been a complete waste of money. The stick is so loose, massive throw range, horrible. I played American arcades with what? the HAPP Eurosticks with Octo gates? were those the ones in the 90's arcades right? Anyways in the arcades DP's and Fireball were easy when I was like 12. Here I am getting my first Sanwa with Square gate thinking its going to be wonderful. Nothing but disappointment. Execution went from very high overall (on pad) to dirt low beginner level or worse. So the 2lb spring helped a little bit but not enough. I have a Seimitsu LS-40 on the way and I am excited to say the least. Also have a oversized actuator and a Octo restrictor gate on the way as well for the JLF. Between the mods for the JLF and the new shiny Seimitsu LS-40 I think I will be much much happier. I will never again play with a stock Sanwa lever and square gate combo. Its unplayable in my opinion. I have read from others too that they absolutely HATE the stock Sanwa with square gate. They find it awful as well. They said the Seimitsu comes stock with a sort of Square-roundish gate that is much better, so I am even more excited when I think about it LOL I highly doubt any pro uses a STOCK Sanwa JLF lever with a Stock Square gate. Everyone I read about their info or ask, also say in their equipment used or there preference pretty much all use CUSTOM Sanwa Lever's .Custom, not stock (LMAO) Custom is the key word Custom. I will never ever touch stock Sanwa's for the rest of my life, I swear it.
Excellent Detail Comparison Here!
My first stick was the Hori Real Arcade Pro N Hayabusa with a stock lever and buttons.
I always felt that the Hayabusa buttons were too light and felt like paper. Inputs felt very empty due to its tilt which doesn't register all the time.
The Hayabusa lever wasn't bad at all starting out for my first purchase but I realized later that the octagonal gate for this lever was not common to order like the Sanwa Octagonal Gate.
The Hayabusa Square Gate is traditional and feels like it should but I realized It wasn't for me.
Often times I would over extend to the left or right while trying to do a down input and I would miss input.
Because the square gate is a box, if you over extend like I did on the straight sides you will never no the difference feeling wise until you hit a corner.
It was really frustrating trying to do down or left and right inputs only to have down back register just because I over extended even a little bit not knowing.
All in all, I had a good time learning fightstick mechanics starting out with stock Hayabusa hardware.
Today, I just recently received a Sanwa Denshi JLF lever, Sanwa 30 MM buttons and 2 Octagonal Gates in the mail.
Taking out the Hayabusa was easy as I looked up guides on TH-cam and took 15 mins tops.
Believe me when I tell you, Im no Sanwa fan boy or even a fightstick hardware expert but when I replaced the Hayabusa parts with the Sanwa parts IT MADE A HUGE DIFFERENCE.
First, the clicks for the Sanwa lever felt a little more satisfying response wise.
Second, the Octagonal Gate fixed my overextending inputs when pressing down, left or right. No more unintentional down backs or up backs. The Octagonal engraving is a sure fix for me because I like to ride the edge of my gate everytime.
Lastly, the Sanwa buttons feel like REAL BUTTONS. It wasn't until I watched this video just now that I realized why the Hayabusa buttons felt so empty and cheap when pressing it while the tilt is happening. There is little to no form of plastic on the inside which makes Hayabusa buttons feel like tapping on paper.
The Sanwa buttons feel like they have form when you press it down. It feels like when you press it fully, you are rewarded with a proper input with no tilting or empty feeling.
The Hayabusa buttons make me feel like I'm second guessing whether or not I'm going to get an actual input to go through. The Sanwa buttons did not make me feel like that at all.
I am confident to say that if your new and starting out learning fightstick mechanics and want to MOD in the future, BUY SANWA PARTS.
Again, I have actually experienced Hayabusa parts for over a year now and playing with my new Sanwa parts all day today made me feel like this is what I should have gotten in the stock at the start.
Buy a stick that comes with Sanwa parts if you can OR Buy a cheap stick just for the modable case and buy the parts for cheap yourselves.
Buying a fightstick is like a car, worry about the inner parts first and how they feel to you THEN customize the outer body later.
Cheers. Looking forward to trying Seimitsu parts in the future. Hope this helped someone. 🙏
Excellent advice, and detailed story btw. i totally agree with you, i actually switch back and forth from sanwa and hayabusa, i am comfortable with both, but you are correct, if anyone is starting out, and if you can only choose one, go with sanwa, you cant go wrong with sanwa, they are well made and they feel good. and thank you so much for typing all that, i enjoyed reading it. thank you for stopping by. i appreciate the support.
@@JoystickNY Thank You for providing one of the most detailed part guides I've ever seen.
This video will help ALOT of people with the amount of detail you provided here and I hope to see more detail reviews in the future.
You got a sub from me. Good Work.
👏👏👏👏
@@Warlock-6127 appreciate the support and love
thanks man ! i really feel the same way you do about the stock parts of the hayabusa N i switched to a seimetsu and its a world of difference its very accurate and registers very fast i do still have a square gate that i will probably change . i will definetly change the buttons to sanwa reading this!
I put a stiffer spring and a kowal octo gate on my Hayabusa stick, feels great. I love their buttons. Would love to try seimitsu button someday
Excellent review and demonstration!
Thank you 🙏🕹👍
Wow!!! what a detailed video. You just gained a new subscriber. Please keep educating us noobs in regards to the fighting games and Arcade sticks and Hitbox. Hopefully someday we'll see a comparison of milliseconds differences in reaction speed in both levers and buttons.
Appreciate you
Isso que é uma análise completa. Parabéns. Like
Nino de Recife thank you so much 🙏🕹❤️👍 muito obrigado
@@JoystickNY Qual seu manche preferido, seimitsu ou sanwa e porquê?
Nino de Recife sanwa joystick lever, and hayabusa buttons, because i feel sanwa has a better joystick, is more steady, the hayabusa is more loose. I like hayabusa buttons because it is easier to press, i feel that it is more responsive.
Thanks for all your videos man, you're doing a great job!
Appreciate you
I just upgraded my stick on my Qanba drone to a Sanwa jlf. It’s kinda crazy that the sanwa is so small, love the clickiness of it. Plus the balltop is better, I hated the mold line of the qanba drones stock top. Also the restrictor reminds me of a beyblade lol
Nice upgrade man, Glad you like it, only the stick ? Or also buttons?
Joystick NY I got sanwa buttons too, I haven’t put them in yet tho. I am printing a vinyl cover I designed to make the artwork look nicer. After I put the skin on then I’ll change the buttons too.
@Drebodollaz Dollaz sounds good already 👍
n response to your comment, I got the Razer Pantera Evo with a Stock Sanwa JLF lever and .9lb and Square gate. From the moment I took it out of the box I have felt it has been a complete waste of money. The stick is so loose, massive throw range, horrible. I played American arcades with what? the HAPP Eurosticks with Octo gates? were those the ones in the 90's arcades right? Anyways in the arcades DP's and Fireball were easy when I was like 12. Here I am getting my first Sanwa with Square gate thinking its going to be wonderful. Nothing but disappointment. Execution went from very high overall (on pad) to dirt low beginner level or worse. So the 2lb spring helped a little bit but not enough. I have a Seimitsu LS-40 on the way and I am excited to say the least. Also have a oversized actuator and a Octo restrictor gate on the way as well for the JLF. Between the mods for the JLF and the new shiny Seimitsu LS-40 I think I will be much much happier. I will never again play with a stock Sanwa lever and square gate combo. Its unplayable in my opinion. I have read from others too that they absolutely HATE the stock Sanwa with square gate. They find it awful as well. They said the Seimitsu comes stock with a sort of Square-roundish gate that is much better, so I am even more excited when I think about it LOL I highly doubt any pro uses a STOCK Sanwa JLF lever with a Stock Square gate. Everyone I read about their info or ask, also say in their equipment used or there preference pretty much all use CUSTOM Sanwa Lever's .Custom, not stock (LMAO) Custom is the key word Custom. I will never ever touch stock Sanwa's for the rest of my life, I swear it.
Very nice overview. I'm going to build an arcade soon and this helps a lot.
Thank you for watching 🙏❤️
thank you so much for the review.
detailed and straight forward
Thank you for watching 🙏❤️
little advise
plz consider to get a condenser mic
audio is a bit blurry
Redye 👍 a lot of my early videos have bad audio , can you check my latest video; and see if the audio is better ? If you get a chance
@@JoystickNY oh you did lol
it's much better!
Redye i put the mic closer and upgraded to a 75$ mic, i was using a 25$ mic lol
Have you ever considered a video on Korean-style stick levers? I've been considering trying one out at some point.
letmetrythisname yes, korean sticks video are on my list too, it may take some time to get there. Because i still have a bunch of video i want to make before i go in to korean sticks and parts.🙏❤️
Hi, about 2 or 3 years ago, Seimitsu had to change microswitches from Matsushita/Panasonic, to Omron, because end of manufacturing.
The one in your vid is the newer one. Did you ever tried the older ones to compare ? I've read some complains about it made Seimitsu much closer to Sanwa feel.
ryoandr thats good information, i have not try the older ones, i mainly use sanwa and hayabusa, although seimitsu does feel very similar, just a bit tigher and require more tension 🙏❤️
great explanation, just getting my Hori blade and was planning on swapping out the buttons for Sanwa's, I love how Seimitsu's colors though, they have better color choices for ball tops and buttons.
Thank you for watching ❤️🙏
Wow! glad I found this channel.
Electrojohn12 thank you for the love and support ❤️🙏
Ah, so this is why older arcade ticks felt smoother, more natural and quicker to me. Seimitsu is like them.
You get instant reaction and play the moment you start moving it due to the metal bars. Whereas the others need solid, perfect hits in diagonal directions to register.
Thank you! I was so annoyed by newer sticks and didn't know why.
Thank you for watching
I bought Hori RAP (soul calibur edition) with hayabusa parts and i should change my stick to Seimitsu i guess. Thank you for the video.
Thats a beautiful stick and awesome stick, hori rap is one of my favorite sticks, i would wait on the change to seimitsu tho, give it a month or 2 and try and see if you like it, and then change it and play with it for the same amount of time and see how you like it, if you give each enough time, u will find the one you are more comfortable with, have fun and let me know, i am abit busy with family and job stuff , havent had a chance to make a video, the next video will he a arcade stick review. ❤️🙏
@@JoystickNY sure👌
1:33 The LS-32 was designed to be touching the panel. That's why the shaft is short. The original plate for the LS-32 is the SS plate that bends on the sides, so that the whole square area of the joystick can touch the panel and the sides come up so it can be mounted.
The SE plate for that's installed on this LS-32 makes the shaft a little shorter than it was designed for.
Thank you for the added information 🙏❤️
Great video. Very clear. About cleaning buttons. Wash my hands before I play and keep my sticks covered when not in use. Now I can see why buttons get stuck in the arcades. Grimy, dirty fingers and sweat.
B. O. Yes , thank you for watching ❤️🙏 pizza shops too, usa has a lot of pizza shop arcades, too much crumbs and oil 😂
Actually I use all Sanwa parts. But because your video I would like to try seimitsu joystick with Hayabusa buttons.
Thank you for watching 🙏 i like hayabusa parts the most, it gives me a special feeling i don get from othet parts, maybe its just me, seimitsu is abit too tight for me, cuz my grip and pressing is very light, it doesnt fit my gesture, but there are people who loves seimitsu. Yeah, if u have time n dont mind spending a little bit, definitely give hayabusa a try.
Me too, Im all sanwa, but for VF the diagonals are so important I think the firm seimitsu is a good fit. And I like the Hayabusa button "flexibilty".
Thank you for sharing 😊👍
should of included the names for each lever
The Seimitsu LS-32 feels completely different than the LS-40. The reason why I say this is because the LS-40 is a very popular lever as well.
Also the Seimitsu Buttons featured there are the PS-14 with flat surface vs the PS 15 which are concave surface
Two Seimitsu buttons feel completely different as well.
There are more offerings for buttons from Seimitsu too giving players much more flavours to choose from
SANHEK thats a good point, i may make a video in the future to cover deeper in to it. Thank you for the suggestion 🙏❤️👍🕹
@@JoystickNY that would be an awesome video to look forward to :)
Excellent video. Really has helped me make my mind up when modifying my Fight Stick Alpha with it’s horribly loose, wobbly stick (doing a Zangief super is like mixing a cake!) and I love the looks of the Seimitsu buttons too! Think I’m going for the 40th anniversary Seimitsu & some lovely colourful buttons.
thank you for watching 🙏❤️
So simple and well explained, basically Sanwa Joysticks are better cuz they have a better motion while Hayabusa is more loose and Seitmitsu is stiffer than a male stripper on Viagra. While Hayabusa buttons are better cuz they take lil effort to press down to register the button press, the sanwa buttons are nice too just a lil bit more on the button pressing while Seimitsu takes more effort than a guy trying to date the hot school cheerleader. Basically get a Sanwa joystick and Hayabusa buttons for best performance, get Seitmitsu for a stricter performance.
Haha 😂 i like the way you explained it ❤️👍 thank you for watching 🙏
I main Ryu so I go with Sanwa, if I were a Guile Main I'd go Seimitsu.
SonofRiggnarok thank you for sharing, cant go wrong with sanwa 👍❤️🙏
@KonicavaBR The octagonal restrictors should not even exist except for old arcade games where you move 8 way frantically. So many youtubers recommend it because they grew up with American 8 way sticks and it sounds so logical to have an 8 way restrictor but it just makes it worse because then the stick doesn't move freely as it was meant to do and without it if you first crouch and then move the stick forwards or down+right you can move the stick without any restriction and with the 8 gate you feel the directions while playing which annoys me to hell :)
@@JoystickNY so for ryu or ken which did you prefer hayabusa or sanwa?
I prefer Sanwa lever and hayabusa buttons.
@@JoystickNY thanks
Thanks for all the useful information!
Thank you for watching
Damn Dude, you really took the time to reply to everyone. Props maaaaaan, that’s a sub for you
Thank you for the support, i try my best to reply to everyone 😊🙏❤️
Make an investigation, who favorited for champions? Thanks!
I didnt understand what you mean, is it a game? 🙏❤️
@@JoystickNY hee means best brand 4 pros
Ohhh, all preference i would say, the top brands are hori, qanba, victrix, 8bitdo, razer,
Ohhh, all preference i would say, the top brands are hori, qanba, victrix, raZer, 8bitdo
I recommend a sanwa JLF lever because the seimitsu lever is way too stiff and the hayabusa lever is oversensitive. And I recommend the hayabusa buttons because they are highly praised by Hori.
I use the same setup that you have, i am using sanwa joystick and hayabusa buttons, i like hayabusa stick too, but my current one broke, i havent gotten chance to pick up another hayabusa stick, but i love both sanwa and hayabusa, seimitsu is abit stiff for my style 👍❤️ thank you for dropping by
The lighting during 9:48 is so abnormal for a youtube video it’s perfect and amazing honestly.
I love this video, thank you!
Thank you for watching 🙏❤️
i use Seimitsu joystick with Sanwa botton, best combo, dont buy Hayabusa
gatsby79 i think all hardware fits different style of people, seimitsu is definitely great
IS THIS LS 32 OR 40 ?
Talal Alosmani great question, it is the Sanwa JLF, and Seimitsu LS-32 and the hori rap4 stock hayabusa 🙏❤️
Great Review. I really learnt what I needed to.
Steven Nelson thank you, yea, it was probabaly a bit boring to watch, but if anyone watch it full, they prob dont need to watch another video, cuz usually we have to dig around a few video to find all the answers we need, glad it helped, 🙏 thanks for dropping by
@@JoystickNY Yeah! No need to watch another video on this subject; you covered everything!
It was abit long i think lol, thank you 🙏❤️
So I just discovered this channel and I think it's very informative.
For me, I don't much like lever micro switches so I use sanwa mainly (or hayabusa if sanwa is not available, for my consoles
& I use Happ for my upright arcade machine) I also am more of a fan of the "bat top" style of stick, and I am liking sanwa's octagonal gate restrictor.
omegahusky thank you and welcome, all those are great options, i actually starters with happ way back in the day, and they were great, becuz of the industry, most sticks are japanese part, it has made me got used to japanese parts. 🙏❤️🕹
@@JoystickNY some where in my collection of arcade sticks I have a sf 15th anniversary Happ edition, for the ps2 and Xbox, those where big and heavy, but it helped me learn how to play with a arcade stick at home =)
Thank you so much for this. Very helpful.
Very informative video good work my man
thank you for watching 🙏❤️
@@JoystickNYthank you for the effort you put in all your vids. You are a god in the arcade controller realm
Really nice info and comparison. Thanks for sharing. Greetings from Argentina
Thank you for watching 🙏❤️🕹 glad it can help 😊
I really hope you make a video about the Korean sticks. This was a very insightful video!
Thank you, i will down the road still have quite alot of video i want to go over before i open a big can of worm
Thank you bro you are a LEGEND
Great video. Very useful info, JNY!
I am happy to hear the videos helps, thank you for watching 🙏❤️
You've got a new sub, fantastic content.
thank you for the support 🙏❤️
Thanks for your video , as always with you , this video is very informative
kimitachi22 hope it wasn’t too long ❤️🙏 i will be going in to gamer fingers, cherry switches, and korean levers down the road 🕹
@@JoystickNY it wasn't long ,don't worry , and even if it would have been too long , it is so interesting and informative that i wouldn't have see the time pass
Very helpfull video. After i watched it I ordered my Hori Fighting Edge and righ about now I am waiting for the Sanwa parts to be delivered lever and buttons. Thanks for the great content you provide!
Thank you for watching 👍❤️🙏
Dude, you shoukda bought your edge frim Arcade Shick only cause they premod it with all sanwa ir semetsu your choice, only $25 more than from Hori direct ir Amazon plus $15 for shipping.
@@ashsherman i live in europe. Bought it from amazon uk. Thanks for the info anyway
ash sherman thats good to know 🙏❤️