These results might not be the most scientifically accurate, but i’m just glad to have Stumblebee videos in my subscription box again. Boy oh boy am I glad to have subscribed to this channel!
Stick noise is no joke. Playing Gundam was legitimately keeping my wife and kids up at night, at least until I bought dampened Sanwas and added a little bit of thicker foam after about eighteen months of wear. It really does make a difference (as did the 4lb tension spring I added, but that’s another story altogether).
Pretty ingenious. The "rainbow capitalism" bit was legit good. Also, the ending sure feels like a callout These results might not be the most scientifically accurate, but I’m just glad to have Stumblebee videos in my subscription box again. Boy oh boy am I glad to have subscribed to this channel!
Just so you know, there's a measurement called LUFS that would very reliably transer your peaks to perceived loudness. It's a good thing that your mic was away, though, as that would narrow all the peaks down. Thx for sharing, I might mod my popn controller one day. :)
Unfortunately I think I need very thin foam for the 24mm buttons on my stickless build. The 24mm silencers I found for the format have a noticeable difference in how sensitive the buttons are to a press, so I have to deal with loud left, right, and down buttons while my up button and 8 normal buttons are all appropriately quiet, because they're the 30mm buttons that were easily silenced.
I had the same issue until about two to three weeks in. I think when the foam is fresh, it dampens your inputs as well as the noise because it’s resisting the entire button press, but as the foam begins to wear, the exact pressure of the strike begins to imprint itself into the foam, at which point you reach this ideal middle ground of responsiveness and quietness.
@@yeetkunedo I tried it for a while. I tried like really hammering on the button to make the foam compress faster. But I was missing too many inputs, so they had to go. I think sanding is my next step.
@@gamelord12 I learned that “compressed faster” isn’t going to happen unless you have a machine to make each button take repeated strikes. It’s less of a “how hard do I use it to break it in” and more of a “how long do I use it before it begins to break in” thing. Sanding it might work, but foam tends to fray, which can make the problem worse when it comes to buttons sticking.
The foam from Michael's is significantly thicker than the ready bought foams from stick websites. It works though. Get a circle stencil while you're at it and they will come out perfect.
Slightly related, if you have mechanical cherry/gateron etc. switch buttons, you can buy small o-rings (if you don't know what that is, you can google it and probably buy them at the hardware store) and just put them in where the plastic would otherwise make contact with the switch Though this won't reduce the noise made by the switch itself such as the click of a blue switch
You know, these results might not be the most scientifically accurate, but I'm just glad to have Stumblebee videos in my subscription box again. Boy, oh boy, am I glad to have subscribed to this channel!
I got some Gen 2 slient sanwa buttons and after about two years of usage i found some of my buttons have gotten a lot louder, especially the ones i use the most.
I already have silent buttons in my stick, but putting foam sheet pieces inside the stick is genius! I gotta try that soon. I would consider getting a silent joystick, but whenever I see the internal parts, I've gotten discouraged. It seems hard to remove the old one because it looked like the wiring is glued to the joystick or something...I gotta re-look into that.
Interesting hack. Much cheaper on Hitbox than on stick. It may help against waking my wife up, but I doubt it'll help prevent my sparring partner from hearing me mash X-ray on wakeup in MKX.
i remember ages ago buying some sound dampening foam specifically made for stick buttons like this but my dumb ass never figured to just. buy foam. i oughta give this a shot!
First I used toilet paper,cotton..inside the stick..(maybe less than 30% noise). Also with silent.buttons 1g...not really silent..but.better. I didnt try the others..new silent buttons..and the LS 40 silent (sadly no silent LS32..56..). Six feet..great choice.
Yeah !! good experience.... Now... what about putting foam inside the case ? I mean, your joystick is in plastic... so it will resonate. What if... you put some acoustic foam inside the case ???
Great Video The biggest issue in fighting games is that it's mostly about repetition & as someone working on a fighting game it will be fixed. Because the arcade Fighter is trapped in over 20 years in the past, while simulator Fighters such as UFC & FIGHT NIGHT have surpassed then but lack the flash. Big things are coming
“The biggest issue” isn’t something you can place into a single box. The problems that hold fighting games back from being as popular as they once were is a multifaceted topic with an equally multifaceted set of solutions.
@@yeetkunedo bro it truly is repetitive nature of it, & a lack of reality man. As well as some more. I will give you an example I can't go to far as I would give away the fighting game I'm working on. COD = You need to reload when using projectile weapons, which makes you think about how much & when you should use it MOST FIGHTING GAMES: Can spam the projectile attacks, only worrying about the reset time of the move. Which just makes it predictable, & repetitive & dull. FPS/TPS = Inputs easy almost universal but require the right moment to use it & awareness of how your opponent will utilize it. Fighting Games: Inputs deliberately made unsimplified as a reason for skill requirements when this only makes the game far more difficult for more players to participate, only fighting games promote confusing inputs that limit the amount of players that can participate. Up Down Left Right Punch for a special attack where the character runs forward. It just destroys the potential amount of players that can play. Even though STREET Fighter 2 The most successful fighting game ever since it launched the game to the mainstream had very simple inputs. Best example of this is SMASH BROS simple inputs yet such as an FPS/TPS high skill requirements to be one of the best.
One on one fighting games won't ever be as popular as they once were because people don't like to lose when they have no one to blame but themselves. Mortal Kombat and Smash Bros are the only outliers because MK can use a fuckton of WB money to give people flashy singleplayer content that lasts for a very long time (and the big name guest stars probably help) and Smash is the biggest cross-over ever who can afford to build absolutely massive rosters with, again, a ton of extra singleplayer content. Plenty to criticize of modern fighting games, true, but if one thinks altering the fundamental gameplay is the key factor to success over just having enough money to splurge on extra content... I just can't believe in their vision. If it was up to the core gameplay loop, rather than having enough money to splurge on stuff outside the core gameplay loop, we'd see one of these games with "more intuitive inputs" or what have you effect some real change in the market. And yet, here we are...
@@yeetkunedo And yet, games with in-depth in-game tutorials aren't seeing more success than games without, because they don't have the money to advertize themselves or have the visual style to break through to the mainstream. Cards on the table- I do believe one on one fighting games ARE a niche that won't ever get as popular as they once were because they occupied a FAR larger niche in the past. They were the most straightforward and simple ways to digitally compete against other people in the past. If you wanted to compete against others in general, fighting games were the king in the ring- yes yes yes FPS and LAN parties did exist, but using computers weren't as widespread and demanded some slight more setup than just popping in a quarter. Now we have arena shooters on phones and computers in nearly everyones house, so the straight-forward FPS and MOBA games took the fighters lunch money. We are simply a smaller niche these days, and we're not getting that place back because the fundamental draw of our games don't allow for the same ease as those other games. I admit, this is my central belief. And I honestly saw nothing in that video to disprove me. I admit I'm perhaps not getting what he wants to say- I don't mock people who are newbies, which the video spent a lot of time touching on. And I do believe fighting games could be doing a better job to teach their methods to newcomers. But quite frankly, I'm just not seeing anything in that video that says fighting games could be a bigger niche again if they had better tutorials or were easier to learn. All I'm seeing in the world around me, is that the biggest fighting games are big because they get a FUCKTON of money poured into them, far more than most. Until the day comes when it's financially viable for Capcom to spend Resident Evil money on street Fighter, just to make an example, I just do not see that changing.
Oh. And what about grinding gear in FFXIV or Splatoon? And why did you stop at Ginza in SMTV? Also, didn't you want to play CrossCode? What about that copy of Catherine on the switch? The full body one? Oh yeah, and that Castlevania collection. Both collections. And hey, Windjammers 2 is out. Wasn't that beta fun? Aren't you going to buy it now? Where was i going with this? Oh right! Good video! I should give a listen to how loud my button clicks are on my stick for once. After I play uuuuuh... Any of the above games?
The buttons feel a little mushier thanks to the throw not being as long and the click sound going away, but they still work when you press them, which works well enough for me.
Yeah I thought about that too, but I felt like this was a case where the incorrect thing came across better. Thanks! I'm looking forward to picking up where I left off!
This one was an interesting vid. I wonder if this would also work on a rhythm game arcade controller like a IIDX turntable, seeing as the buttons are pretty similar. I might have to try that myself sometime.
My own ideal button's ended up being standard Sanwa's with Seimitsu 0.5 springs and foam silencers... Not only do they return to neutral as fast as you let go, but it's really REALLY hard to get them to make much sound no matter how hard you mash on them... 😅 As for the stick I personally love the Seimitsu Bullet Lever for being both quiet enough and very actuate without making your gameplay a comedy show of fumbled inputs... IMO Sanwa's JLF is a really good stick for most people, but it's intentionally quite a bit less accurate both for a wider range of game support (Jack of all trades, Master of none) and as a result of being minimalized enough to more easily fit into a wider array of potential housings...
My friend once had a roommate who would straight up Wana throw hands because he would stay up playing Tekken late at night and he was a gorilla with a stick
These results might not be the most scientifically accurate, but I'm just glad to have Stumblebee videos in my subscription box again. Boy oh boy am I glad to have subscribed to this channel!
These results might not be the most scientifically accurate, but I'm just glad to have Stumblebee videos in my subscription box again. Boy oh boy, am I glad to have subscribed to this channel!
These results might not be the most scientifically accurate, but i'm just glad to have Stumblebee videos in my subscription box again. Boy oh boy am I glad to have subscribed to this channel!
These results might not be the most scientifically accurate, but I'm just glad to have Stumblebee videos in my subscription box again. Boy oh boy am I glad to have subscribed to this channel!
These results might not be the most scientifically accurate, but i'm just glad to have Stumblebee videos in my subscription box again. Boy oh boy am I glad to have subscribed to this channel!
I forgot to plug it in the video but follow me on Twitter so I can become a clout god
Is it possible for a windjammers episode
These results might not be the most scientifically accurate, but i’m just glad to have Stumblebee videos in my subscription box again. Boy oh boy am I glad to have subscribed to this channel!
Preach!
Me rn
literally what stopped me from owning a stick for years, my wife would've killed me lol
Silenced Sanwa buttons saved my marriage.
y’all motherfuckers think I’m playing
own this ratio
Now if only this can fix the loudness problem of my screams of rage when I lose
Honestly I thought he was going to talk about this
That too can be solved by inserting cheap foam into the offending parts.
Try therapy
Jk i do the same shit sometimes lol
Stick noise is no joke. Playing Gundam was legitimately keeping my wife and kids up at night, at least until I bought dampened Sanwas and added a little bit of thicker foam after about eighteen months of wear. It really does make a difference (as did the 4lb tension spring I added, but that’s another story altogether).
can your kids half circle yet?
This is only a problem as a spectator. As a player the audio cue from the hard button presses is actually extremely helpful for being consistent.
Making my stick as loud as possible is part of my mindgames
thank you so much
i never realized how the noise was an issue until i asked my family
will for sure be doing this
bro where did stumblebee go? :(
I've been playing competitive Smash Bros since 2013 and I don't think I've once heard GameCube Controller noises referred to as popcorn lol
that last cash grab before disappearing
Pretty ingenious. The "rainbow capitalism" bit was legit good. Also, the ending sure feels like a callout
These results might not be the most scientifically accurate, but I’m just glad to have Stumblebee videos
in my subscription box again. Boy oh boy am I glad to have subscribed to this channel!
“If you’re gonna beat your stick like it owes you money”
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Great for mashing in to the night when you have a sleeping family with little kids and a wife that can hear a stick click from 3 miles away...
Just so you know, there's a measurement called LUFS that would very reliably transer your peaks to perceived loudness. It's a good thing that your mic was away, though, as that would narrow all the peaks down. Thx for sharing, I might mod my popn controller one day. :)
That would have been way easier! I'll keep that in mind!
ok but how do I make my stick louder
I don't even own a fight stick but I would love to put something like this together
7:35, boy if that ain't the most relatable thing in the world
Always good to see you again with a new video
Yo plz come back we be missing you
The inclusion of the "WE GOT FOAM" video was greatly appreciated lmao
We miss some of that sweet content… but hey if you need to take a break it’s fine G.
Love your more consistent but still subtle comedy. Good stuff as always man.
nah fighting games' loudest problem is me when i get salty
I can fix that for a dollar too wink wink
@@Stumblebee 👀
GUYS
HE CONFIRMED ON TWITTER THAT HE'S STILL ALIVE
Unfortunately I think I need very thin foam for the 24mm buttons on my stickless build. The 24mm silencers I found for the format have a noticeable difference in how sensitive the buttons are to a press, so I have to deal with loud left, right, and down buttons while my up button and 8 normal buttons are all appropriately quiet, because they're the 30mm buttons that were easily silenced.
Hmm, maybe you can sandpaper the foam you have down a bit?
@@Stumblebee it's on my to do list, and I hope it works
I had the same issue until about two to three weeks in. I think when the foam is fresh, it dampens your inputs as well as the noise because it’s resisting the entire button press, but as the foam begins to wear, the exact pressure of the strike begins to imprint itself into the foam, at which point you reach this ideal middle ground of responsiveness and quietness.
@@yeetkunedo I tried it for a while. I tried like really hammering on the button to make the foam compress faster. But I was missing too many inputs, so they had to go. I think sanding is my next step.
@@gamelord12 I learned that “compressed faster” isn’t going to happen unless you have a machine to make each button take repeated strikes. It’s less of a “how hard do I use it to break it in” and more of a “how long do I use it before it begins to break in” thing. Sanding it might work, but foam tends to fray, which can make the problem worse when it comes to buttons sticking.
Wake up babe new Stumblebee upload
I don't even have a fightstick and found this very entertaining. Nice video sir
Are you coming back
Could you not call all of us out with that ending. Also how's your left it seems different after using controller.
It grew back, but typing was really hard for a while there.
New stumbleblee video LET'S GO!
This worked like a charm, thank you!!!
Now I want a fight stick that's louder. Like, multiple decibels louder.
Im just glad you are back man
The CLACK is the best part
Where are you at?
The ending is so true, I have all these games I intend to play but just keep playing fighting games lol
Useless to me because I play pad but nice video man, always good to see you uploading new stuff
Congrats on the engagement, by the way.
The foam from Michael's is significantly thicker than the ready bought foams from stick websites. It works though. Get a circle stencil while you're at it and they will come out perfect.
My fix is not using headphones. Can't complain about clacking if you hear the game
The last 30 seconds of the video was the most relatable part.
Slightly related, if you have mechanical cherry/gateron etc. switch buttons, you can buy small o-rings (if you don't know what that is, you can google it and probably buy them at the hardware store) and just put them in where the plastic would otherwise make contact with the switch
Though this won't reduce the noise made by the switch itself such as the click of a blue switch
Glad to see a new Stumblebee video on my notifications. Clicked immediately.
You know, these results might not be the most scientifically accurate, but I'm just glad to have Stumblebee videos in my subscription box again. Boy, oh boy, am I glad to have subscribed to this channel!
I got some Gen 2 slient sanwa buttons and after about two years of usage i found some of my buttons have gotten a lot louder, especially the ones i use the most.
I already have silent buttons in my stick, but putting foam sheet pieces inside the stick is genius! I gotta try that soon.
I would consider getting a silent joystick, but whenever I see the internal parts, I've gotten discouraged. It seems hard to remove the old one because it looked like the wiring is glued to the joystick or something...I gotta re-look into that.
The timing... Thank you so much...
Just so people know, this will definitely change the feel of your buttons.
1:23
I dunno man I can still hear Holy Orders in that so it’s all good
YOOOO HES BACK AGAIN LESSSS GOOOOOOO
The legend returns.
You did not just reference foam adventures holy shit
Have you tried out the hayabusa parts? They suck.
Interesting hack. Much cheaper on Hitbox than on stick.
It may help against waking my wife up, but I doubt it'll help prevent my sparring partner from hearing me mash X-ray on wakeup in MKX.
I was having a perfectly good day until I was reminded of Foam Adventure
When are going to cover more Soulcalibur games?
i remember ages ago buying some sound dampening foam specifically made for stick buttons like this but my dumb ass never figured to just. buy foam. i oughta give this a shot!
completely defeated the purpose of the video with that $70 stick nonetheless the result is good
I just accepted that my fight stick would be loud. Looking forward to finding a solution!
If you nvr fell asleep in the chair practicing lightning loops your not living lol
thanks a lot, man
Yo if you're ordering a silent stick anyway, may as well also order the pre-cut foam too
Great tutorial. Now make one on how to make a fiance.
First I used toilet paper,cotton..inside the stick..(maybe less than 30% noise).
Also with silent.buttons 1g...not really silent..but.better.
I didnt try the others..new silent buttons..and the LS 40 silent (sadly no silent LS32..56..).
Six feet..great choice.
Yeah !! good experience....
Now... what about putting foam inside the case ? I mean, your joystick is in plastic... so it will resonate.
What if... you put some acoustic foam inside the case ???
Great Video
The biggest issue in fighting games is that it's mostly about repetition & as someone working on a fighting game it will be fixed. Because the arcade Fighter is trapped in over 20 years in the past, while simulator Fighters such as UFC & FIGHT NIGHT have surpassed then but lack the flash. Big things are coming
“The biggest issue” isn’t something you can place into a single box. The problems that hold fighting games back from being as popular as they once were is a multifaceted topic with an equally multifaceted set of solutions.
@@yeetkunedo bro it truly is repetitive nature of it, & a lack of reality man. As well as some more. I will give you an example I can't go to far as I would give away the fighting game I'm working on.
COD = You need to reload when using projectile weapons, which makes you think about how much & when you should use it
MOST FIGHTING GAMES: Can spam the projectile attacks, only worrying about the reset time of the move. Which just makes it predictable, & repetitive & dull.
FPS/TPS = Inputs easy almost universal but require the right moment to use it & awareness of how your opponent will utilize it.
Fighting Games:
Inputs deliberately made unsimplified as a reason for skill requirements when this only makes the game far more difficult for more players to participate, only fighting games promote confusing inputs that limit the amount of players that can participate. Up Down Left Right Punch for a special attack where the character runs forward. It just destroys the potential amount of players that can play. Even though STREET Fighter 2 The most successful fighting game ever since it launched the game to the mainstream had very simple inputs.
Best example of this is SMASH BROS simple inputs yet such as an FPS/TPS high skill requirements to be one of the best.
One on one fighting games won't ever be as popular as they once were because people don't like to lose when they have no one to blame but themselves. Mortal Kombat and Smash Bros are the only outliers because MK can use a fuckton of WB money to give people flashy singleplayer content that lasts for a very long time (and the big name guest stars probably help) and Smash is the biggest cross-over ever who can afford to build absolutely massive rosters with, again, a ton of extra singleplayer content. Plenty to criticize of modern fighting games, true, but if one thinks altering the fundamental gameplay is the key factor to success over just having enough money to splurge on extra content... I just can't believe in their vision. If it was up to the core gameplay loop, rather than having enough money to splurge on stuff outside the core gameplay loop, we'd see one of these games with "more intuitive inputs" or what have you effect some real change in the market. And yet, here we are...
@@goranisacson2502 Your central thesis point isn’t based on facts.
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@@yeetkunedo And yet, games with in-depth in-game tutorials aren't seeing more success than games without, because they don't have the money to advertize themselves or have the visual style to break through to the mainstream.
Cards on the table- I do believe one on one fighting games ARE a niche that won't ever get as popular as they once were because they occupied a FAR larger niche in the past. They were the most straightforward and simple ways to digitally compete against other people in the past. If you wanted to compete against others in general, fighting games were the king in the ring- yes yes yes FPS and LAN parties did exist, but using computers weren't as widespread and demanded some slight more setup than just popping in a quarter. Now we have arena shooters on phones and computers in nearly everyones house, so the straight-forward FPS and MOBA games took the fighters lunch money. We are simply a smaller niche these days, and we're not getting that place back because the fundamental draw of our games don't allow for the same ease as those other games.
I admit, this is my central belief. And I honestly saw nothing in that video to disprove me. I admit I'm perhaps not getting what he wants to say- I don't mock people who are newbies, which the video spent a lot of time touching on. And I do believe fighting games could be doing a better job to teach their methods to newcomers. But quite frankly, I'm just not seeing anything in that video that says fighting games could be a bigger niche again if they had better tutorials or were easier to learn. All I'm seeing in the world around me, is that the biggest fighting games are big because they get a FUCKTON of money poured into them, far more than most. Until the day comes when it's financially viable for Capcom to spend Resident Evil money on street Fighter, just to make an example, I just do not see that changing.
Oh. And what about grinding gear in FFXIV or Splatoon? And why did you stop at Ginza in SMTV? Also, didn't you want to play CrossCode? What about that copy of Catherine on the switch? The full body one? Oh yeah, and that Castlevania collection. Both collections. And hey, Windjammers 2 is out. Wasn't that beta fun? Aren't you going to buy it now?
Where was i going with this? Oh right! Good video! I should give a listen to how loud my button clicks are on my stick for once. After I play uuuuuh... Any of the above games?
Try the gamer finger optical PCB for the jlf. That's real silent ☝️
why have you reminded me of that 2 girls collect foam video oh god
does it mess the sensitivity of the buttons or nah?
The buttons feel a little mushier thanks to the throw not being as long and the click sound going away, but they still work when you press them, which works well enough for me.
Erghhhhhhhh, you mean "LOWER is better" because you're working with negative numbers. 😭
Still happy to see StumbleBee vids in my feed, though! :D
Yeah I thought about that too, but I felt like this was a case where the incorrect thing came across better.
Thanks! I'm looking forward to picking up where I left off!
I also came across this issue and solved it by playing Halo instead
i think the problem was more the sticks than the buttons for my family so i guess im just gonna have to cope with my dad hating my fight stick :|
Hitbox users on stream be like
At 4:05 😂
This one was an interesting vid. I wonder if this would also work on a rhythm game arcade controller like a IIDX turntable, seeing as the buttons are pretty similar. I might have to try that myself sometime.
Totally relate to this lol
NO! I got it clicky for a reason! (I bought the loudest buttons I could get!)
We lost him
Did something happen? Or did he just stop making videos?
go astros
I like it loud I got a wooden hitbox
I have that same sf vs tekken fight stick! Maybe i too can start a successful yt fighting game channel
You bought deathloop? Sadge
Using a fight stick without the sound? Might as well use a controller. Might as well not play at all. Might as well stop breathing.
My own ideal button's ended up being standard Sanwa's with Seimitsu 0.5 springs and foam silencers...
Not only do they return to neutral as fast as you let go, but it's really REALLY hard to get them to make much sound no matter how hard you mash on them... 😅
As for the stick I personally love the Seimitsu Bullet Lever for being both quiet enough and very actuate without making your gameplay a comedy show of fumbled inputs...
IMO Sanwa's JLF is a really good stick for most people, but it's intentionally quite a bit less accurate both for a wider range of game support (Jack of all trades, Master of none) and as a result of being minimalized enough to more easily fit into a wider array of potential housings...
Damn, the mechanical keyboard community influence is spreading
i am a keyboard player, i got no issues ez
😁🕹💘
Sorry. My stick is loud on purpose. 🤢
Stumbohbwee uwu
So... What happened to you?
tl;dr: foamnb
I hear he died.
Is he okay
He's fine, just not very active on social media
My friend once had a roommate who would straight up Wana throw hands because he would stay up playing Tekken late at night and he was a gorilla with a stick
These results might not be the most scientifically accurate, but I'm just glad to have Stumblebee videos in my subscription box again. Boy oh boy am I glad to have subscribed to this channel!
These results might not be the most scientifically accurate, but I'm just glad to have Stumblebee videos in my subscription box again. Boy oh boy, am I glad to have subscribed to this channel!
These results might not be the most scientifically accurate, but i'm just glad to have Stumblebee videos in my subscription box again. Boy oh boy am I glad to have subscribed to this channel!
These results might not be the most scientifically accurate, but I'm just glad to have Stumblebee videos in my subscription box again. Boy oh boy am I glad to have subscribed to this channel!
These results might not be the most scientifically accurate, but i'm just glad to have Stumblebee videos in my subscription box again. Boy oh boy am I glad to have subscribed to this channel!