2023 Suzuki GSX-8S On The Dyno: Raw Power!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 พ.ค. 2024
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With the latest introduction into the parallel-twin world, Suzuki has seemingly hit a homerun with the all-new GSX-8S! With loads of tech, unique styling, planted suspension, and a price tag to match, how does this bike stack up power-wise? Stay tuned to find out!
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00:00 - Intro
01:11 - Overview
02:24 - Dyno Runs
03:56 - Results
08:40 - Final Thoughts - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
I'm loving this bike. It runs and feels so much better than it looks on paper. A lot of reviews claim the quickshifter doesn't work and it stops making power at 7k. My quickshifter works very well. It might not keep building additional power but it's a broad curve that doesn't really fall off. It's an awesome setup for the street.
Been riding 30 odd years, had almost everything. I work in the trade so I get to ride everything, bought one of these in August after a 2 hour test ride. Just completed it's first 600 miles, it is absolutely sublime, fat spread of power, so much fun. No buyers remorse at all. I love it. I want to ride it all the time, which I think is the true measure of a great bike. Ignore comparing specs, just try one.
My favorite comment in a long time. Thank you.
My last 3 bikes were a 2012 Aprilia RSV4R, a 2008 ZX-10R, then a 2016 GSX-S1000. Would I be disappointed "going backwards" to something like this or would you suggest sticking with a bigger bike? I've noticed a trend in smaller displacement and not super over the top powerful bikes getting a lot of praise (Z900, R7, RS660 specifically jump to mind)... the price tag on this and the GSX8R and available accessories keep grabbing my attention.
@@pv6505 Full Akra exhaust, airbox mod, Sprint filter, ECU flash yields 88 hp and 66 ft-lb at the wheel. Does that help motivate? haha
2023 such a good year for bikes
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Knock out a build and parts development series. I think people will jump on this bike. Such a good value and best in class imo.
This is definitely the bike to get
I got it. First one in Oslo🙌
If we can get more top end power out of it then I agree! You think 85-90 whp with exhaust, velocity stacks and a tune is possible?
@@clubstyleridahd4695 Looking at the graphs, I think low to mid 80hp is realistic with bolt on mods. This bike will be super fun and quick as a street bike, up to just above street legal speeds, but that's all it will ever be.
@@ZANGI3F "Just above street legal speeds" is quite an understatement.
790 Duke is only $350 more and makes +15 or +25hp (region dependent) more than the GSX8S while weighing 30lbs less wet
Bringing mine home today!
Nice!
Fantastic information, trying to learn as much as I can about this bike. I went to see it in the showroom and it is beautiful. Hoping to get one next year!
BEST frigging technical breakdown on this bike anywhere period!!!
I picked up a brand new 8S last week and love it. It’s my first bike in 20 years and it is super fun to ride!😊
Heck of a bike to get back in on. Cheers!
Amazing, I hope exhausts come soon
Cant wait to see what you can do with this bike.
Just picked up a blue one on Monday. Hit 500 miles on the odometer today. Looking forward to seeing what you do with it. Bike actually feels tamer then I was expecting. Probably just cause I never had rider aides before. Seems odd when you can get on it and the front wheel doesn't come up. lol But it is good usable power for the street.
Looking forward to seeing your build. A little more top end pull would be nice. Definitely have to pick up a fender eliminator when either you or Yosh have one ready. Cause that stock thing is horrible. If they just kept the brake light on the bike it would of been an easy fix.
I ordered the handlebar balancers and had them put the tiny LCD panel windshield. Tank protectors and USB are on back order but I already paid for them. Looking for that fender elim kit to come out!
You can definitely power up in first or second, just open up fast to 8-9rpm and be ready 🤘the slightly longer wheel base helps with stability but doesn't do stunting any favors. Keep in mind I'm a bit of a noob, though. Lol.
I am glad I found this channel.
Glad to have you with us. I think you will definitely enjoy the next video that we will be launching on the topic of this bike.
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Now this is exciting 😎
Can’t wait to see what you guys are gonna do with the gsx8r
Something exciting is in process right now
Subscribed! I'd be extremely interested if y'all could fit some clip-ons onto the 8R!@@TSTindustries
Thanks for the great info. I have a bunch of TST stuff on my drz sm, and if all goes well, I’ll have more tst bits on one of these someday. Keep it coming boys.
That's great to hear.
The torque is very very weak compared to my 2020 Yamaha XSR 900 given those dyno figures. Mine makes 53 ft/lb torque at a mere 2,000rpm where this GSX-8S is only at 15 ft/lb at 2,000rpm. bhp is way down at 30bhp less. Yamaha named my bike in Japan the MTM 850 for a reason. Monster Torque Motor. I have ridden this Suzuki and it is not up to par. It cannot get into the 10's for a 1/4 mile and it takes forever to hit it's top speed at redline. @@TSTindustries
The graph on the GSX-S1000 does the same. Stock 135-140 unrestricted with Exhaust and Tune 150-170
Brilliant review well explained.
We are taking the bike to the track this Sunday. We should have a track review video up in the next few weeks.
Coming from a Duke 890R, I really like this bike; it has similar styling, and although won't have the freakish performance of the Duke, I think with some suspension mods, and power mods, this could be a fun ripper for the twisties; plus, the price point is amazing.
Great video! According to the results published on the Akropovic site this bike responds extremely well to pipe mods throughout the entire rev range so should be interesting to see what you can get with additional tuning mods. Bike's a bit porky too so results of putting it on a diet would also be interesting and productive.
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Great discovery & learnings TST. This bike is a ripping machine ⭐️ I would love to see what exhaust setup Yoshi R&D come up with for the fantastic 8S. Hopefully 2 options. 1 slip on & 1 full system 🙏
Akrapovic already has an exhaust for this bike. DIdn't see any Yosh option.
I built a custom 3/4 system for mine already. (Video on my channel)
I only have about 800miles on it so far.
My only complaints about the bike was the lack of noise and the lack of suspension adjustment.
I have a filter for it but waiting until I get the tuner from Woolich to install it
@@The_Mod_ScientistIt sounds amazing! Now I can’t wait to get an exhaust on mine. lol
it needs a baby blue crash cage up front to help close that gap, would look so good!
That tail tidy looks the business 👌
Thank you. We are working on producing the last of the components that needs through manufacturing so we can launch soon. If you want to be notified when the parts are available you can go to the product page on our website and drop your email in the notification request. While you are on our website you can check out the integrated tail light design. That part will come a bit later as the design for manufacture is not done yet.
Great video, can't wait for you guys to get hands on a exhaust and tune it, really interested to see how much more you can squeeze ot of this engine. Does the GSX-8S have one or two O2 sensors?
Single sensor on this bike. We have Akra on order from Europe coming in late this month. Our R&D guys will weld a bung into each primary and then tune it per cylinder. We should have a tune available shortly after that.
Great video, very informative. Have you tested the Honda CB750 Hornet? A direct competitor
Unfortunately, that bike is not available in the USA so we haven't been able to get our hands on one.
where did those blue billet bar ends and mirror caps come from? I need a pair badly
Mirror blockoffs came out of our inventory. That is a product we sell. The barends are a prototype set that our supplier made us but we have not received any for sale yet.
This as a sport tourer, with cruise control and switchable ABS would be a top seller.
I wouldn't be surprised if the V-strom ends up getting those options.
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After finally getting a test ride, i am really impressed how much better this is than the MT07 which was already a great bike!
I actually hear that a laot. What I also noticed to be a pretty big trend is current MT07 owners just ignorantly ststing that this bike can't be on par or better and just not willing to go for a test ride to see for themselves. I think this bike will have a slow onset, but end up at the top of the category over time.
@@TSTindustries Totally agree. I pointed this out to a friend who rides a MT07 but they have their heart set on the KTM 790 anyway...which I'm told is another excellent bike!
Spoiled for choice!
The MT 07 is a learner bike in Australia. It weighs approx the same as an XSR 900 but approx half the bhp and a mere 35 ft/lb at 2,000rpm when the XSR 900 is at 52lb/ft at 2,000rpm. I can assure you that's night and day! MT 07 bhp is 63bhp where the XSR 900 is 104bhp. The MT 07's are simply pathetic as is this Suzuki crappy parallel twin. @@TSTindustries
@@theaustralianconundrum If this 8S held torque to redline instead of falling off, it'd make 106HP. MT07 is a similar story. My point is, these engines just need to be setup and tuned like the sport bike engines (like Aprillia with the RS660, or any Ducati, or any KTM) and they'd be worth it. Right now, they might as well be commuter/eco engines. They're the KLR650 of sport bikes. It's sad.
bike looks awesome with this tail tidy just cant decide between this an the hornet. have rode both love the look of the suzi but you feel the weight and has a heavy clutch. i just wonder more power could actually be pulled out of it
We already got into the ECU and started the work. The bike, with no exhaust change, will not yield much of a performance improvement. But once we get a full exhaust on it and do some intake side mods, then tune, we will definitely unlock a bunch of potential. Then the plan is to get into the suspension and really get this thing razor sharp. We have no Hornet here so I cannot make a comparison, but I can say that out of the other competing bikes in this class the 8S is tops for me.
how does this bike compare to the gsx s750?
My dream ❤
I have one. It’s very smooth, with lots of torque. The quick shifter and slipper clutch are amazing!
Totally agree!
But is it right that this result means in reallity it has less hp (77) than they say from fabric(83hp)?
As a VSTROM 800 owner, watching closely what you do with tuning and exhaust, etc... hoping to see some solid gains and of course, the sound we all want as the stocker sucks on the 800DE =)
We have the exhaust on order. As soon as the manufacturer has it ready we will have one and get to tuning right away.
@@TSTindustries Cool - what exhaust are you all going with? I see Arrow just announced theirs, and Akra has one although quite pricey.
@@TylerMcCool We went with Akra because that is all that was available at the time of making the decision. Available as in coming soon...not actually being shipped yet.
@@TSTindustries Not bad logic - the Akra looks nice too.
I’m so torn between this and the ktm 790, I’m truly concerned about the already not so great reliability of the 790 being it’s now built in China. Hopefully looking at one of these tomorrow so we will see.
Serious question: can i put my brand new bike(21km mileage) on dyno to support full system exhaust?
You can reques dyno break in if your dyno shop is a reputable place with race engineering experience.
How would you compare this bike to the MT-09?
It's tough to compare them since they are diffeent class bikes. The MT produces way more power and torque, has one more cylinder, and i would say equivalent level of chassis and suspension sophistication.
In the bikes stock form, is C mode "tame" enough for a newer, mature (i.e. 50 year old) rider?
That answer would be very subjective so it is tough to confidently answer it for you. What I can say is that if any of the modes are not tame enough for you, the throttle map can be rebuilt by a reputable flashing tech to be very mild and mistake forgiving in the firt 75% of TP opening, then giving you all the beans beyond that. I think that would be tame enough for just about anyone with some experience.
I am a 50 year old new rider also and bought this as my first bike.Put it at B mode and traction on 3 or 2 and you will be allright.
Can you tell me which fender eliminator kit that is? I think Yoshimura makes the only one at this point.
That is ours. We make many types of parts for sportbikes, nakeds, dual sport, sm, etc. You can see all the parts we currently have and soon to be launching for the 8S here: tstindustries.com/suzuki-gsx-8s-2023/
Awesome!
No air fuel ratio sniffer? Top speed dealio was pretty cool though.
We were not tuning the bike so there was no need to sample lambda
@@TSTindustries Nice to see OEM levels anyway. I assume lean up to 6k rpm.
35 runs? That's dedication.
35 runs does not take that long. When we tune we make many more runs than that. The exhaust is on order, and we already cracked into the ECU, so tuning is coming soon.
@@TSTindustries thanks for the information.
Finally sat on one last weekend. 84 hp Suzuki claimed. Must be at the crank. I was wondering about the top end HP for this bike.
That is the average that Suzuki measured in their lab on an engine dyno at the crank.
All factory power ratings from any mass-produced vehicle or crate engine are at the crank unless otherwise specified. 84hp claimed compared to 77hp at the wheel is about a 9% power loss, which is pretty much right in line with what a transverse engine setup with a manual transmission and one driven axle is supposed to do.
The rule of thumb is to start at 10% drivetrain loss for transverse FWD (or transverse in general for bikes), then add 5% more loss for every inefficiency added. The list of inefficiencies is; Longitudinal (requires a change in direction to make the wheels turn), AWD, and Automatic transmission. So the worst would be a longitudinal automatic transmission 4wd/AWD at 25% power loss. IIRC, dual-clutch counts as manual, and automatic means a trans with a torque converter and planetary gears.
With bikes in particular, they also say belts are less efficient, but I don't buy it. Shafts are definitely less efficient though, since they add a change of direction and significant rotating mass. I also just don't like the idea of jacking or torque lean/torque twist, so shafts on bikes aren't for me unless it's some antique showpiece thing. Though I might also make an exception for a Triumph Rocket.
@@TSTindustriesso thats power at whell right ?
@@mociczyczki yes, of course. As you can see in the video the wheel of the bike is in contact with the roller drum, which is the site of the measurement . At this point we have developed velocity stacks and a special intake lid that produce a much improved output. That setup will be on our website this coming week along with the dyno data to support the performance change. If ypu want to see some impressive gains you should take a peek on our website. A whole airbox replacement is coming soon.
@@TSTindustries ok okthanks for answer but whell on roller say 💩 about which power somebody show at whell or closer to crank as each dyno almost can measured losess and show graph closer to crank 😉👌🏻 beside power at whell depend on whell speed (also on chain type condition sprockets tire type size and pressure and bearings and drag of rotstion whell …) 😉👌🏻😎 hogher whell speed the less it show cos ritational inrpertia stay constant but wheell rpm increase so pwoer loses increase offcorse for each gear meadurement ypu must write in software of dyno proper gearing otherwise ypu get bs numbers 🤭 anyways thanks fpr answer oh wait on more wuestion this dyno have some standsrisation algorytm for standarisation speed for which they say how much hp is at the whell or not ? or at leadt how it is with yours dyno 😎👍🏻☕️
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Is the gsx-8s a better bike than the gsxs 750 ?
Different use but i think yes as a allround do it all bike
Where can i buy that headlight😭😭😭
The Suzuki dealership...
You can also buy it on the GSX-S1000. Identical headlight
I wonder if Suzuki will ever release a supersport version. GSXR-8?
If your wanting a mid displacement supersport with a 270° P-twin that's low and mid-range biased why not buy a Yamaha R7?
@@richardwarsinske7064 competition. Suzuki doesn’t have a twins cup bike.
@@DemetriosMallous90 I wouldn't think the GSX 8S engine platform would be competitive because of the weight handicap.
SV650 has been competing in the 650-690 class already. With extensive work it's made shy of 90 horsepower at the wheel.
@richardwarsinske7064 Competition is always a good thing. It wouldn't be difficult to make something with the 8S engine to compete with the R7.
It looks like there is a ton of power to be had after 6.5k, correct me if I'm wrong
With a rework to some of the intake components and a little different cam degree....yes
@@TSTindustries figured there would be. Open up the air box, remove secondaries, that kind of thing?
2017 gsxr1000 wasnt a new design?
"Suzuki hasn't released anything substantially new in a long time"....yes the 1000 was an all new design but that was 5.5 years ago, with no other notable new bikes. Not a critisizm of Suzuki, just an observation. This point of view is forged by the stark contrast that Kawi and Yamaha set up in my mind because of the rapid fire releases of multiple new bikes since 2015.
If it didn't choke up top and carried peak torque all the way to redline, it'd make 106HP. Once again, the Japanese bike manufacturers are screwing us out of what we really want and need. Is it really too much to ask for something with literbike torque and 750 horsepower, or a 750's torque with a 600's horsepower with both examples being in a cross-plane parallel twin config (even better if they ACTUALLY copy KTM with the 285-degree crank/firing interval) and with the good ole' Big four reliability, parts availability, and service cost?
Is anybody ever going to tune one of these?
Yes, we are :)
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How is a 750 only making 77 hp? What a joke.
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I like the content of your video but I didn't like hiw you used an image of the bike wrecked to get people to to view your video when in reality it's not true and it didn't happen at all
I wish i knew what you are talking about. The image that is the thumbnail for the video is the bike strapped to the dyno. There is no crash content in this video or the thumbnail.
@@TSTindustries the front wheel looks bent
@@souhailshamaissem7564 where? Its straight as can be. We have not crashed this bike yet.
Seems incredibly underpowered.. hmm..
Remap it with intake and exhaust cant wait to see
The exhaust should be here soon. We will do another round of tuning after that is mounted.