As a welder who has handled cylinder tanks for over 20 years, I crank those regulators down with a wrench with a decent amount of force without ever having an issue. One easy way to find leaks is to make sure your solenoid is closed and crack open the cylinder. Your regulator should indicate how full your cylinder is. Now close it, and it should maintain that pressure. If your needle starts dropping, then you have a leak. One last thing, cylinders are under immense pressure, accidently knocking one over, and you'll have a missile on your hands. Make sure to secure/chain up your cylinder.
Where were these vids when I started. I had to research for days... Keep making these video's you're making! You're gonna reach a lot of people my friend! I keep droppin in on these video's you're putting out and I'm like damn this is what I was specifically looking for a few years back! lol Keep it up man. I'll keep watchin... Pulling up a chair on this channel.
I was wondering how to hook the regulator to the co2 monitor.. nice video answer all my questions seems very simple alway like reviews like this before i buy stuff
I have emailed a few grow bag companies and the bucket companies trying to get them to send me some to test and see how they perform. So for ive had ZERO responses. I may just buy a couple online and test them out for a few days and see how they actually perform.
You can't... For a tent your only options are to seal the room the tent sits in and saturate the entire room or vent it out of the tent and eat through your Co2 and an incredibly fast rate. The latter is not worth it in my opinion. Depending on your situation it may be feasible to pull in air from another space in your place thats more enriched naturally from either the occupants of the house or from something like a gas pilot light.
@@TriStateTrichomes thanks for your quick answer. the trick is rerouting the output from the exhaust via a cooling tube back into the tent. now how would a cooling tube possibility work?
@@reneschipper6262 Are you saying you would vent it out of the tent and then have that come straight back into the tent? If so you have to remember a tent is not airtight either. so if you could manage that idea you would still leak co2. probably much less but it would still leak. Since starting Co2 is not a a cheap initial investment for everything. I am not sure how worth it the cost to return would be. I would still suggest sealing the room the tent sits in and enriching that space or use the passive co2 in your living space to enrich. I had a setup in a basement that stayed about 950ppm as a constant. All of the co2 from the people in the house would leak down into the basement since its heavier than air and thus free co2. not to bad at all.
Thank for your explication! I’m currently instaling a co2 kit, but i don’t have de co2 monitor to swich on or swich off the suministration… how can i do for calculate the necesary co2 for my plants?
without a monitor its going to be almost impossible to know the exact PPM your room is at. Which can lead to many issues. Could also be dangerous if it gets to levels above 4000PPM. i would get the equipment and save your bottle until you have it.
great video thanks! quick question, how many times you need to refill the tank? more than once per cultivation or with one tank per growing is enaught ?
I run mine to behind my fan and let the fan distribute it. Of you are planning to zig zag on the roof so it drops down. I've never made a custom tube for this. I would loom of a tube made for this and just copy the layout on your own.
You can find leaks with soapy water, it'll bubble if you spray it on the joints. Also a water based bubble counter is a good visual way to instantly see your flow. In addition you can get cheap tanks and refils at a local beer brewing shop. Finally, fresh water aquarium micro misting CO2 bubble stones can add a ton of enrichment to your nutrient water, it works better in hydro systems. There is no such thing as too much CO2 when in veg.
i have an AC/heater in the room. so if it does have any impact then i have not noticed. But that aside i dont see a reason why Co2 would have any notable effect on temperature in a grow space.
Good night friend, for a space of 1.5 meters by 1.5 by 2 meters high, what size of cylinder do you recommend? How many kilos, and the input and output motor can I turn on for how many minutes per hour? thanks for your attention.✌️👍🏻
Assuming that space is well sealed you would be fine with a smaller 20lb tank and it would last you a month or 2. now if the room is not well sealed you will go through the gas fast either way and larger may be better if you plan to run co2 anyway. Instead of trying to guess the flow rate i would get a monitor/controller to measure the room for you and it will turn the tank on and off as needed. I made a newer version of this video that goes into a little more detail.
i start at 800ppm and increase from there. How long the tank will last depends on how well your room is sealed and how much canopy space you are trying to support with it. There is no 1 answer to this
@@michaelwheatley7257 I would personally say, yes. An airtight closed room is the best choice. No need to vent unless you are forced to do so to maintain optimal growing environment.
@@michaelwheatley7257 yes a closed system during CO2 usage, no point in exhausting your $$ CO2 $$.. keep a close eye on your plants humidity and temperature.. 75'-80' . Some people shut down the Co2 at 6 hours into the light cycle(1/2 way during flowering) in order to exhaust the room & bring in fresh air then close it up & turn your co2 back on for the remainder of the light cycle. Plants are only utilizing CO² during the day while growing so bring in fresh air & Exhaust at night - lights out..
sealed room means that you seal the room air tight so that you dont have leaks. Or you mitigate the air leaks as much as you possibly can. I also never vent my room intentionally. I do have a carbon filter inside that i run once budding really kicks off to keep smell from being an issue.
Dude I bought the regulator in the video and Iink below and I went back to watch the video and now your saying its already broken from moisture in the solenoid i think its just a two wire and the mech is burned out that pulls the plunger in it two wire set ups cause the system to strain while holding the plunger open or closed i was hoping for a good cheap reg but nooo
Hey man out of curiosity did you have issues with the Manatee regulator in the link or the Titan regulator in the video? I'm getting ready to add a system to my grow tent, and I don't want to waste money in crappy gear obviously. I was thinking the Autopilot monitor/controller with a Titan regulator and a 20lb tank. No loop, just 2 nozzles, each nozzle placed directly behind the rotating circulation fans above the canopy. I run a GC roi720, and i'm tired of constantly having to replace Exhale bags also worrying about the bag expiration dates when purchasing them. Appreciate any feedback.
Sweet video thank you for sharing. Definitely right on about not much info. I’m a newbie so I’m researching the crap outta this indoor set up. Gonna start with a 4x4x6 and go form there. Anyway thank you for taking the time to do this video. Definitely a great help
Man do you also have some exaust schedulle to run this Co2 , or no exaust ? Sorry for the noob question , but I don't nothing about Co2 enviroment . Thanks
No exhausting. Room stays sealed so I have full control over temp and humidity. Some do vent with lights off for temp control in colder areas. That's only done with lights off since that is also when co2 is off.
Thanks for the vid. You explained everything I wanted to know. BTW what do you think is the better option, 20inx3ft tent. A fermentation generator yeast and sugar, or a small tank set up?
in the long run the tank setup is going to be cheaper and more effective. But the initial cost is more. also keep in mind the tent will leak the co2 unless its in its own designated room and then the whole room can be sealed and supplemented
@@TriStateTrichomes thanks for the info. I live in an apt so no room set aside just for that. So I'm guessing a couple good co2 detectors should be OK? Maybe an exhaust cycle every hour?
@@raineman1118 try to seal your tent as best you can when you run co2. tape zippers if they leak air. anything you can do to reduce leaks. No need to exhaust. i would definitely get 1 or 2 co2 monitors you can keep outside of the tent to make sure you are keeping safe levels in your house. OR if your tent is near where you hangout the most. you can just vent in co2 rich air from the people in the apartment breather. test the ambient co2 levels in each room for a couple days to see where they sit at on an average. this way you have free co2 supplementation
@@TriStateTrichomes there isn't enough ambient co2. Plus I've an apt full of house plants. I'm thinking since summer is almost here, I can pull from outside, but still think a small tank is the way to go, sugar and yeast get expensive, and probably not as reliable. You seem to know your craft.
@@raineman1118 tanks are the way to go. see if you can find a cheap used one and then exchanging is usually cheaper at a welding or gas shop such as allied gas. hydro shops are more expensive. at least in my area
Hey boss, what should ppms be before they the plants break the soil? My concern is that plants use o2 during this phase and I have no fresh air intake, should a room at say 400ppm co2 have enough o2 or should I be opening the door a couple times a day until they break the surface then push the co2? Sorry if that was worded weird
Ambient Co2 levels are around 420 (nice). So 400 is low and inside your house chances are you're closer to 500 or 600 if not more. I wouldn't add co2 before they pop. Just you going in the room to check on them will add a lot if you look at your monitor you'll notice a BIG jump after a couple minutes. Even seedling and very early veg they use such a small amount that my regulator never turned on and my own breath was more than enough.
@@machiavelligaming9755 no problem. If you have a sealed room. You going into the room will keep levels elevated all day long since it's trapped and they use such a small amount. If you don't have a sealed room and are just trying to add to a tent or something similar I would recommend pulling air in from your living space that is naturally enriched from the occupancts of the residence. And of you're adding more I would wait until you enter veg and have higher light intensity. Otherwise the cost effectiveness is diminished. An unsealed room is already difficult to supplement co2 in so if you're going to do it then do it when it's used the most to help save a little.
@@machiavelligaming9755 temps I run 86 in veg and start of flower and the. Lower from there. Set my RH based on the VPD chart. I have a link on my channel to the chart I use as a guide, it also has a calculator on that page.
@@roboquaid honestly if you are pulling air into the tent constantly. Unless you can co2 the entire room the tent is in I don't think using co2 is a good choice. With an expensive upkeep. What I usually recommend for someone growing in a tent at their place is if possible to pull in air from your living space. Co2 levels in a house are in general much higher than outside air. For example a basement might run 900ppm just from what sinks down from everyone above. Or an area with a gas pilot light will have very high co2 . So using these things to ypur advantage is free and more sustainable for those who can't run a sealed room.
I have had zero issues with the controller I have so I would definitely recommend it and it was much cheaper than others I found. My thoughts on CO2 is that it's amazing as long as you can run a sealed space.
If you are referring to the inflorescence dry weight. then yes increasing CO2 levels even with lower PPFD levels has shown a substantial increase. I believe the study was up to 30%. Since CO2 allows me to push lighting this means I can increase this even further in comparison to ambient co2 levels.
Yes. The Co2 passes through the regulator where the pressure gauge is, then passes through the small solenoid (where the little black box is) and then out the hose barb where the small tube connects.
@@TriStateTrichomes thanks so much man so I'm actually using mine in a lab experiment but I cannot find any c02 meter that goes to 5000 for some reason is there any one you can suggest
My CO2 regulator After using it for a while, it tends to leak frequently. Found the controler to be cold and water clinging to it. Have you ever experienced something like this? What caused it? Is the regulator broken? Or is it the environment in the room that is too cold, causing the leak?
An exhaust is not required at all. Allows for more control of all environmental variables. Helps keep pests out and keep smell in. I'll get the links for the stuff I bought and add it
I linked some of the products mentioned in the description straight from my amazon order history lol. If there is anything else i missed just let me know and ill add it for you.
@Tri-State Trichomes I guess you're using an AC unit to control temperatures. How strong is your AC and how much does it impact the electricity bill? I'm running 2 sealed tents, but before choosing a portable ac unit I went on and tried switching on all 6x 600W LED and I'm getting 88-89F° with them at 25% power and currently no intake or exhaust. I'm think a 6000BTU for each tent might do the job but it will be constantly working at max power. Compared to my previous runs with an unsealed setup I'm in disbelief at how much heat the AC will have to dissipate and thus the load on the electric consumption.
Its not suppose to, which is the point of a dual hose. removes the issue of creating negative pressure like a single portable would cause. BUT no matter how well i sealed around the ducting it was never perfect and it did cause my tank to run out each month. Currently i have a mini split and the tank now lasts 2 months easily.
@@TriStateTrichomes Yeah i mean even if you were exhaust sucking the air out of the room and had co2 being put over your canopy it would still some what be beneficial. I see alot of people using those co2 bags and they arnt very cheap about 70$ a bag here. I had a co2 bottle and regulator from an aquarium im giving a try, i still think if there is co2 in there the plants would benefit from it even if your exhausting air out of the room
@@matty00866 I would say it's possible. It depends on what the room maintains and with the extra cost is it even worth it. Usually if you are growing in your own house there are ways to get free additional vo2 from the residents in the house. Such as a basement over an attic since co2 will sink causing an increase in the lower part of the house. Or near a pilot light.
That's a loaded question. So with a single tray on that run it lasted me a month or just over. BUT on my run that just finished (Athena vs Mills) the tank lasted me the entire flower period. Even though that was with 2 tray opposed to 1. I switched from a dual hose portable to a mini split AC.
I'll probably make a video covering this at some point. How these factors have such a big impact and how you can use passive Co2 on certain situations.
I cant speak for all but the one I'm using is super simple. Only thing that wasn't a dead give away was the altitude setting which i learned of later. I should have read the instructions. Apparently Co2 density is different at different altitudes so setting that gives a more accurate readding.
@@TriStateTrichomes Yea I don't know much about this so good video for me. I used a propane burner for heat in a greenhouse which then also gave off co2. They like it
Unless there was water that got into it. Which it just needs to dry out if that's the case I'd ask for a free replacement. I'm sure you may be able to take it apart and fix it. But if it's that new I feel that should fall on the company to handle. 2 weeks is super fast
Normally utilizing a monitor that keeps the CO² levels up at a constant 1200ppm - 1600ppm but Could you do an experiment bringing the CO2 levels up to 1600ppm and documenting how long it takes for the plants to bring levels back to the normal 403ppm, utilizing all of the excess CO². How many square ft x how many plants x how many hours to utilize the extra 1200ppm of CO²..
But it has 800 psi inside that bottle of co2 and that nylon crush washer in designed to be crushed that why they give you an extra one but really the most important thing if you have a tall bottle like that one you need have it secured to the wall or something so it don’t fall over and turn into a co2 powered bottle rocket
Bro, thanks for this vid! A couple of questions here. How many cf is your room if you're swapping these tanks every month, keeping the ppm at 1350?? How much does each cylinder replacement cost you where you are? I am down in Costa Rica, and my friends are complaining about the high cost of CO2. One 50 lb refill costs about $100 here. Seems pretty expensive.
costs me 30 USD. After switching to a mini split AC, i was able to extend the life of my tank to almost 3 months. it doesnt use much until mid flower when they are full sized and drinking up the CO2. my room is 8x8x10. the better the sealed the room the longer you can make it last for sure.
Thats funny you mention it, I considered using some gas pipe tape actually, but I've never had an issue with leaking, (when I'm using both hands) so haven't picked any up yet.
@@TriStateTrichomes no. Do not tape the threads. Use the washer that is zip tied onto your regulator. It’s a straight thread so it uses the washer to seal, not tape. Tape is for tapered threads lol
@@jtmoney416 nah I've never had an issue. The seal zipped and hanging is my extra one. If my first stopped sealing I'd use that and only consider gas pipe tape as a last resort. More as a temp fix until allied gas supplies can admit fault and replace mine.
@@TriStateTrichomes glad to hear its chained, oxygen is bad too, but co2 has plenty of pressure to still be a missle. I work with compressed gases like co2 and oxygen
@@imdrunken These CO2 tanks tend to land 900-1000 PSI. I know when i did welding back in the day i handled oxy and acetylene. O2 tanks are double around 2000PSI i believe. But yes i keep it chained to the corner. I made 2 videos on how to set these tanks up and i believe i cover chaining them up in each. Definitely can cause damage and cost money if they fall
Prós: funciona como anunciado Conecta-se facilmente ao regulador Contras: As instruções foram escritas para ajudá-lo a conectar tudo, mas as instruções para configurá-lo de acordo com suas preferências são vagas na melhor das hipóteses. Você precisa entender duas palavras, ZONE e CENTER. Centro = onde você deseja que o ppm esteja. Provavelmente em torno de 1200ppm para plantas. Zona = quanta variação para o alvo central você deseja ter. Se você definir o centro para 1200 e definir a zona para 200, ele será cortado em 1000 ppm e desligado em 1400 ppm. A configuração de fábrica é 400, que é uma variação bastante ampla do centro alvo de 1200.
You could have lost 5 minutes about the hand tight we get it and more important how does the regulator communicate with the controller that would have been better info
By mid flower about 1 month with that 1 800w light from my other videos. My more recent videos have 2 800watts so I'll see if there's a notable uptake in consumption. I would assume so though
Wow ... hand tight on a deadly gas is never enough....yes the threads are brass. Not plastic for pete sakes the nut is designed for a wrench not fingers. SNUG IT UP with a wrench !!!
Come on you spend all that time showing how to put a regulator on a tank and what you really should have been doing is showed how to set up the controller
the controller is different for each brand. So your individual instructions are best. But the tank is the high pressure metal can that i felt needed the proper explanation. I also made a video after this giving a little more detail for those who asked. This one has more views though and is pushed to more ppl.
As a welder who has handled cylinder tanks for over 20 years, I crank those regulators down with a wrench with a decent amount of force without ever having an issue.
One easy way to find leaks is to make sure your solenoid is closed and crack open the cylinder. Your regulator should indicate how full your cylinder is. Now close it, and it should maintain that pressure. If your needle starts dropping, then you have a leak.
One last thing, cylinders are under immense pressure, accidently knocking one over, and you'll have a missile on your hands. Make sure to secure/chain up your cylinder.
Tell me please is it posibile to calculate ppm without digital only using bottle and these part
U have the most anime pfp for an experienced welder lmao
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Thank you Sir. Will go and chain it NOW❤❤❤
I'm sure this will get lost in the comments but bro...thank you !!!
I got you man! and i appreciate that
U the man
Where were these vids when I started. I had to research for days... Keep making these video's you're making! You're gonna reach a lot of people my friend! I keep droppin in on these video's you're putting out and I'm like damn this is what I was specifically looking for a few years back! lol Keep it up man. I'll keep watchin... Pulling up a chair on this channel.
Glad I can help. I try to make videos on things I spent time trying to find answers to in the past to make it more simple.
I was wondering how to hook the regulator to the co2 monitor.. nice video answer all my questions seems very simple alway like reviews like this before i buy stuff
Very informative vid thanks. Do you run a sealed environment with ac or do you still use extraction while supplementing Co2?
try to stay as sealed as i can to control the environment completely
My next move for my grow tent only because I never new if the grow bags were really working properly thanks for the video very helpful 👍
I have emailed a few grow bag companies and the bucket companies trying to get them to send me some to test and see how they perform. So for ive had ZERO responses. I may just buy a couple online and test them out for a few days and see how they actually perform.
Do you have to turn off your out take whilst running the co2 ??
great! my question is how to prevent the co2 to get extracted from the tent by the exhaust fan?
apparently not, you have to build a closed system with AC I guess.
You can't... For a tent your only options are to seal the room the tent sits in and saturate the entire room or vent it out of the tent and eat through your Co2 and an incredibly fast rate. The latter is not worth it in my opinion. Depending on your situation it may be feasible to pull in air from another space in your place thats more enriched naturally from either the occupants of the house or from something like a gas pilot light.
@@TriStateTrichomes thanks for your quick answer. the trick is rerouting the output from the exhaust via a cooling tube back into the tent. now how would a cooling tube possibility work?
@@reneschipper6262 Are you saying you would vent it out of the tent and then have that come straight back into the tent? If so you have to remember a tent is not airtight either. so if you could manage that idea you would still leak co2. probably much less but it would still leak. Since starting Co2 is not a a cheap initial investment for everything. I am not sure how worth it the cost to return would be. I would still suggest sealing the room the tent sits in and enriching that space or use the passive co2 in your living space to enrich. I had a setup in a basement that stayed about 950ppm as a constant. All of the co2 from the people in the house would leak down into the basement since its heavier than air and thus free co2. not to bad at all.
Thank for your explication! I’m currently instaling a co2 kit, but i don’t have de co2 monitor to swich on or swich off the suministration… how can i do for calculate the necesary co2 for my plants?
without a monitor its going to be almost impossible to know the exact PPM your room is at. Which can lead to many issues. Could also be dangerous if it gets to levels above 4000PPM. i would get the equipment and save your bottle until you have it.
Great video man! Very useful.
great video thanks! quick question, how many times you need to refill the tank? more than once per cultivation or with one tank per growing is enaught ?
I have a question. I bought tubing from home Depot. I was wondering how big should I puncture the holes. And how far apart do they need to be?
I run mine to behind my fan and let the fan distribute it. Of you are planning to zig zag on the roof so it drops down. I've never made a custom tube for this. I would loom of a tube made for this and just copy the layout on your own.
Great listern! Good info mate thanks
Great video dude. Thank you for explaining, you're a good teacher, even with 1 hand.
Great video man. How often do you change the 50 pound tank in that small room? Looks like your plants have about 1m x 1m of space.
every 3 months roughly. in that sealed room with a minisplit. so nothing really gets out
You can find leaks with soapy water, it'll bubble if you spray it on the joints. Also a water based bubble counter is a good visual way to instantly see your flow. In addition you can get cheap tanks and refils at a local beer brewing shop. Finally, fresh water aquarium micro misting CO2 bubble stones can add a ton of enrichment to your nutrient water, it works better in hydro systems. There is no such thing as too much CO2 when in veg.
Great video keep up the good work
glad you enjoyed it. thank you
Hi! thanks for the vid, one question: so when the co2 is on does it drop down tent temperature ?
i have an AC/heater in the room. so if it does have any impact then i have not noticed. But that aside i dont see a reason why Co2 would have any notable effect on temperature in a grow space.
This is very informative. Well explained. Good job.
Thank you. I'd like to shoot another one with a tripod to have both hands free for this process.
I'm honestly surprised you didn't recommend white Teflon tape. Mine wouldn't seal without it.
always use a wrench to tighten the connections, the seals require that amount of force to create a proper seal otherwise you will have a slow leak
Good night friend, for a space of 1.5 meters by 1.5 by 2 meters high, what size of cylinder do you recommend? How many kilos, and the input and output motor can I turn on for how many minutes per hour? thanks for your attention.✌️👍🏻
Assuming that space is well sealed you would be fine with a smaller 20lb tank and it would last you a month or 2. now if the room is not well sealed you will go through the gas fast either way and larger may be better if you plan to run co2 anyway. Instead of trying to guess the flow rate i would get a monitor/controller to measure the room for you and it will turn the tank on and off as needed. I made a newer version of this video that goes into a little more detail.
What ppm do you recommend starting at with clones and at what ppm do you finish?
Also how long would a bottle like that last?
i start at 800ppm and increase from there. How long the tank will last depends on how well your room is sealed and how much canopy space you are trying to support with it. There is no 1 answer to this
@@TriStateTrichomes is it recommended to have a closed system when running injection?
@@michaelwheatley7257 I would personally say, yes. An airtight closed room is the best choice. No need to vent unless you are forced to do so to maintain optimal growing environment.
@@michaelwheatley7257 yes a closed system during CO2 usage, no point in exhausting your $$ CO2 $$.. keep a close eye on your plants humidity and temperature.. 75'-80' .
Some people shut down the Co2 at 6 hours into the light cycle(1/2 way during flowering) in order to exhaust the room & bring in fresh air then close it up & turn your co2 back on for the remainder of the light cycle.
Plants are only utilizing CO² during the day while growing so bring in fresh air & Exhaust at night - lights out..
how long time would a tank like that be enough for? very approximately 1 week, 2 weeks, 1 month, 3 months, 6 months?
What do you mean sealed room? Is it ok to have a extractor fan with carbon filter even? :D
sealed room means that you seal the room air tight so that you dont have leaks. Or you mitigate the air leaks as much as you possibly can. I also never vent my room intentionally. I do have a carbon filter inside that i run once budding really kicks off to keep smell from being an issue.
Dude I bought the regulator in the video and Iink below and I went back to watch the video and now your saying its already broken from moisture in the solenoid i think its just a two wire and the mech is burned out that pulls the plunger in it two wire set ups cause the system to strain while holding the plunger open or closed i was hoping for a good cheap reg but nooo
Hey man out of curiosity did you have issues with the Manatee regulator in the link or the Titan regulator in the video? I'm getting ready to add a system to my grow tent, and I don't want to waste money in crappy gear obviously. I was thinking the Autopilot monitor/controller with a Titan regulator and a 20lb tank. No loop, just 2 nozzles, each nozzle placed directly behind the rotating circulation fans above the canopy. I run a GC roi720, and i'm tired of constantly having to replace Exhale bags also worrying about the bag expiration dates when purchasing them. Appreciate any feedback.
@@the_gold_canopy it's working the regulator doing good idk how long it will last considering his failed after a month but the Manatee isnt bad
@@BillyBob-t1n Appreciate the help!
Thank you for making this video. I am currently installing a CO2 tank for the first time and I didn’t know what the hell im doing
I realized there is almost none explaining this which is odd. I'll have to do an updated one soon
Great video man, appreciate the help
Thanks for the watch. Ill have to make another when i finally get a tripod so i can use 2 hands.
Sweet video thank you for sharing. Definitely right on about not much info. I’m a newbie so I’m researching the crap outta this indoor set up. Gonna start with a 4x4x6 and go form there. Anyway thank you for taking the time to do this video. Definitely a great help
I'm really glad its been able to help so many people.
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how do u keep co2 level? is not sucked off via extracgtor fan?
Man do you also have some exaust schedulle to run this Co2 , or no exaust ?
Sorry for the noob question , but I don't nothing about Co2 enviroment . Thanks
No exhausting. Room stays sealed so I have full control over temp and humidity. Some do vent with lights off for temp control in colder areas. That's only done with lights off since that is also when co2 is off.
Thanks for the vid. You explained everything I wanted to know. BTW what do you think is the better option, 20inx3ft tent. A fermentation generator yeast and sugar, or a small tank set up?
in the long run the tank setup is going to be cheaper and more effective. But the initial cost is more. also keep in mind the tent will leak the co2 unless its in its own designated room and then the whole room can be sealed and supplemented
@@TriStateTrichomes thanks for the info. I live in an apt so no room set aside just for that. So I'm guessing a couple good co2 detectors should be OK? Maybe an exhaust cycle every hour?
@@raineman1118 try to seal your tent as best you can when you run co2. tape zippers if they leak air. anything you can do to reduce leaks. No need to exhaust. i would definitely get 1 or 2 co2 monitors you can keep outside of the tent to make sure you are keeping safe levels in your house. OR if your tent is near where you hangout the most. you can just vent in co2 rich air from the people in the apartment breather. test the ambient co2 levels in each room for a couple days to see where they sit at on an average. this way you have free co2 supplementation
@@TriStateTrichomes there isn't enough ambient co2. Plus I've an apt full of house plants. I'm thinking since summer is almost here, I can pull from outside, but still think a small tank is the way to go, sugar and yeast get expensive, and probably not as reliable. You seem to know your craft.
@@raineman1118 tanks are the way to go. see if you can find a cheap used one and then exchanging is usually cheaper at a welding or gas shop such as allied gas. hydro shops are more expensive. at least in my area
Hey boss, what should ppms be before they the plants break the soil? My concern is that plants use o2 during this phase and I have no fresh air intake, should a room at say 400ppm co2 have enough o2 or should I be opening the door a couple times a day until they break the surface then push the co2? Sorry if that was worded weird
Ambient Co2 levels are around 420 (nice). So 400 is low and inside your house chances are you're closer to 500 or 600 if not more. I wouldn't add co2 before they pop. Just you going in the room to check on them will add a lot if you look at your monitor you'll notice a BIG jump after a couple minutes. Even seedling and very early veg they use such a small amount that my regulator never turned on and my own breath was more than enough.
@@TriStateTrichomes thanks bro
@@machiavelligaming9755 no problem. If you have a sealed room. You going into the room will keep levels elevated all day long since it's trapped and they use such a small amount. If you don't have a sealed room and are just trying to add to a tent or something similar I would recommend pulling air in from your living space that is naturally enriched from the occupancts of the residence. And of you're adding more I would wait until you enter veg and have higher light intensity. Otherwise the cost effectiveness is diminished. An unsealed room is already difficult to supplement co2 in so if you're going to do it then do it when it's used the most to help save a little.
@@TriStateTrichomes nah I got a sealed room, what’s the VPD ypu shoot for when pushing w co2?
@@machiavelligaming9755 temps I run 86 in veg and start of flower and the. Lower from there. Set my RH based on the VPD chart. I have a link on my channel to the chart I use as a guide, it also has a calculator on that page.
How long does this tank Last u?
For me personally it lasts 3 months with a sealed room. Unless your setup is identical that won't be the same for you.
Should def drop the censor down.. canopy levels are probably a bit high
you are probably correct. But its a well sealed room so if they are getting a little extra im okay with that.
Hi mate how would you recommend using co2 with a negative pressure in the room?
That doesn't sound ideal. You will go though a lot of co2. What's causing the negative pressure?
@@TriStateTrichomes well in a grow tent we would run negative pressure to extract the heat and smell through a carbon filter.
What would you recommend
@@roboquaid honestly if you are pulling air into the tent constantly. Unless you can co2 the entire room the tent is in I don't think using co2 is a good choice. With an expensive upkeep. What I usually recommend for someone growing in a tent at their place is if possible to pull in air from your living space. Co2 levels in a house are in general much higher than outside air. For example a basement might run 900ppm just from what sinks down from everyone above. Or an area with a gas pilot light will have very high co2 . So using these things to ypur advantage is free and more sustainable for those who can't run a sealed room.
@@TriStateTrichomes thanks alot dude really appreciate it 👍
nice video master!
Dude im on my 4th regulator in a month. My flow meter keeps leaking within a couple days. Has this happened to you?
no i am still using the same regulator from over a year ago. Where is yours failing at?
What are your thoughts on using co2 and without it? Btw do you recommend the controller you have?
I have had zero issues with the controller I have so I would definitely recommend it and it was much cheaper than others I found. My thoughts on CO2 is that it's amazing as long as you can run a sealed space.
I have a question please, does injecting the unit with carbon dioxide raise the dry matter in the plant? Thank you
If you are referring to the inflorescence dry weight. then yes increasing CO2 levels even with lower PPFD levels has shown a substantial increase. I believe the study was up to 30%. Since CO2 allows me to push lighting this means I can increase this even further in comparison to ambient co2 levels.
@@TriStateTrichomes Thank you for the answer. If you have a study on this subject, can you send it? Thank you in advance
@@maghrebhydroponique8300 I'll try to find it. I know it was briefly touched on by Bruce bugbee when he was interviewed by MIGRO recently.
Dope vid!
Thank you
Not controller monitor how long has it lasted you
the monitor which also controls the co2 has so far lasted me 1 year. no issues to date.
Good shit my brother.
I find this video very helpful due to planning to run an experiment to see how harmful co2 in the atmosphere is Truly to plants
Glad i was able to help out in that case.
Where does the CO2 come out? The bottom of the regulator?
Yes. The Co2 passes through the regulator where the pressure gauge is, then passes through the small solenoid (where the little black box is) and then out the hose barb where the small tube connects.
This is really helpfull, thank you very much
I'll have to make an updated one when I get a tripod so I can show everything better.
Hey man a quick question what is the max ppm this can go to is it possible to get it to 5000ppm or 5% c02 ?
I would need to check. But I would not recommend you run your room that high.
it goes to 3000PPM
@@TriStateTrichomes thanks so much man so I'm actually using mine in a lab experiment but I cannot find any c02 meter that goes to 5000 for some reason is there any one you can suggest
@@KR-xn8xr I think autopilot might have one. Look at the link and it says up to 5000ppm.
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@@TriStateTrichomes thanks so much man appreciate the help alot I'll check it out just need to see if they ship to my country
My CO2 regulator After using it for a while, it tends to leak frequently. Found the controler to be cold and water clinging to it. Have you ever experienced something like this? What caused it? Is the regulator broken? Or is it the environment in the room that is too cold, causing the leak?
Really helpful video. Should the sealed room have an exhaust for any reason at all? Also if you could link your setup that would be dope.
An exhaust is not required at all. Allows for more control of all environmental variables. Helps keep pests out and keep smell in. I'll get the links for the stuff I bought and add it
I linked some of the products mentioned in the description straight from my amazon order history lol. If there is anything else i missed just let me know and ill add it for you.
@@TriStateTrichomes thank you brotha
@@machiavelligaming9755 Got you!
@Tri-State Trichomes I guess you're using an AC unit to control temperatures. How strong is your AC and how much does it impact the electricity bill?
I'm running 2 sealed tents, but before choosing a portable ac unit I went on and tried switching on all 6x 600W LED and I'm getting 88-89F° with them at 25% power and currently no intake or exhaust. I'm think a 6000BTU for each tent might do the job but it will be constantly working at max power. Compared to my previous runs with an unsealed setup I'm in disbelief at how much heat the AC will have to dissipate and thus the load on the electric consumption.
Is your room extracting air with that ducting?
Its not suppose to, which is the point of a dual hose. removes the issue of creating negative pressure like a single portable would cause. BUT no matter how well i sealed around the ducting it was never perfect and it did cause my tank to run out each month. Currently i have a mini split and the tank now lasts 2 months easily.
@@TriStateTrichomes Yeah i mean even if you were exhaust sucking the air out of the room and had co2 being put over your canopy it would still some what be beneficial. I see alot of people using those co2 bags and they arnt very cheap about 70$ a bag here. I had a co2 bottle and regulator from an aquarium im giving a try, i still think if there is co2 in there the plants would benefit
from it even if your exhausting air out of the room
@@matty00866 I would say it's possible. It depends on what the room maintains and with the extra cost is it even worth it. Usually if you are growing in your own house there are ways to get free additional vo2 from the residents in the house. Such as a basement over an attic since co2 will sink causing an increase in the lower part of the house. Or near a pilot light.
how long does that tank last for you
in my room about 3-4 months
Legend video. Thanks brother
Thank you sir
Maybe I missed it but how long dies the 50 pound tank last you on average??
That's a loaded question. So with a single tray on that run it lasted me a month or just over. BUT on my run that just finished (Athena vs Mills) the tank lasted me the entire flower period. Even though that was with 2 tray opposed to 1. I switched from a dual hose portable to a mini split AC.
So basically my point is anything I give you could be WILDLY inaccurate based on your own scenario.
I'll probably make a video covering this at some point. How these factors have such a big impact and how you can use passive Co2 on certain situations.
I'm not comparing my room to yours
I only want to know how long your 50 pound tank lasts you?
@@tomcruise1146 I gave 2 examples of how long it lasts me based on 2 different factors over my last 2 runs
Nice video mate
Thank you sir! Wish I had a tripod instead of trying to manage with 1 hand.
@@TriStateTrichomes it's all good man. You explained everything well. Your the only one I have found explaining co2 setups on TH-cam 💪
really informative thank you!
What is the size of your co2 tank?
50lb
Hi is the controller user friendly?
I cant speak for all but the one I'm using is super simple. Only thing that wasn't a dead give away was the altitude setting which i learned of later. I should have read the instructions. Apparently Co2 density is different at different altitudes so setting that gives a more accurate readding.
@@TriStateTrichomes how do I find my altitude?
@@ClearWater7.62 I just googled ( city altitude ) 🤣
@@TriStateTrichomes lol yeah was a bit confused
Good video
Thank you man
Well done
Thank you sir. Nothing too elaborate. Just a short overview since I couldn't find much on this when I was first setting mine up.
@@TriStateTrichomes Yea I don't know much about this so good video for me. I used a propane burner for heat in a greenhouse which then also gave off co2. They like it
@@alukea123 for colder areas that's probably the better option too. Heat and co2 all together. Save on heating costs.
Hola, alguien entiende la función de altitud de este equipo?
You know anything about the flow meter not working? Been using my regulator for 2 weeks and suddenly doesn’t work
Unless there was water that got into it. Which it just needs to dry out if that's the case I'd ask for a free replacement. I'm sure you may be able to take it apart and fix it. But if it's that new I feel that should fall on the company to handle. 2 weeks is super fast
Normally utilizing a monitor that keeps the CO² levels up at a constant 1200ppm - 1600ppm but Could you do an experiment bringing the CO2 levels up to 1600ppm and documenting how long it takes for the plants to bring levels back to the normal 403ppm, utilizing all of the excess CO². How many square ft x how many plants x how many hours to utilize the extra 1200ppm of CO²..
How much is your par levels
But it has 800 psi inside that bottle of co2 and that nylon crush washer in designed to be crushed that why they give you an extra one but really the most important thing if you have a tall bottle like that one you need have it secured to the wall or something so it don’t fall over and turn into a co2 powered bottle rocket
Bro, thanks for this vid! A couple of questions here. How many cf is your room if you're swapping these tanks every month, keeping the ppm at 1350?? How much does each cylinder replacement cost you where you are? I am down in Costa Rica, and my friends are complaining about the high cost of CO2. One 50 lb refill costs about $100 here. Seems pretty expensive.
costs me 30 USD. After switching to a mini split AC, i was able to extend the life of my tank to almost 3 months. it doesnt use much until mid flower when they are full sized and drinking up the CO2. my room is 8x8x10. the better the sealed the room the longer you can make it last for sure.
@@TriStateTrichomes thanks! I knew we were totally getting scammed by Praxair down here.
You need to use some plumbers tape on that thread.
Thats funny you mention it, I considered using some gas pipe tape actually, but I've never had an issue with leaking, (when I'm using both hands) so haven't picked any up yet.
@@TriStateTrichomes no. Do not tape the threads. Use the washer that is zip tied onto your regulator. It’s a straight thread so it uses the washer to seal, not tape. Tape is for tapered threads lol
@@jtmoney416 nah I've never had an issue. The seal zipped and hanging is my extra one. If my first stopped sealing I'd use that and only consider gas pipe tape as a last resort. More as a temp fix until allied gas supplies can admit fault and replace mine.
Very nice!
Homie you should chain that tank up....that thing somehow falls and shears that valve it will literally go through a cinderblock wall like a missle.
it is chained up?
and this tank doesnt have that much pressure. You may be thinking of an oxygen tank. it is under much more pressure.
@@TriStateTrichomes glad to hear its chained, oxygen is bad too, but co2 has plenty of pressure to still be a missle. I work with compressed gases like co2 and oxygen
@@imdrunken These CO2 tanks tend to land 900-1000 PSI. I know when i did welding back in the day i handled oxy and acetylene. O2 tanks are double around 2000PSI i believe. But yes i keep it chained to the corner. I made 2 videos on how to set these tanks up and i believe i cover chaining them up in each. Definitely can cause damage and cost money if they fall
Prós: funciona como anunciado
Conecta-se facilmente ao regulador
Contras: As instruções foram escritas para ajudá-lo a conectar tudo, mas as instruções para configurá-lo de acordo com suas preferências são vagas na melhor das hipóteses. Você precisa entender duas palavras, ZONE e CENTER.
Centro = onde você deseja que o ppm esteja. Provavelmente em torno de 1200ppm para plantas.
Zona = quanta variação para o alvo central você deseja ter. Se você definir o centro para 1200 e definir a zona para 200, ele será cortado em 1000 ppm e desligado em 1400 ppm. A configuração de fábrica é 400, que é uma variação bastante ampla do centro alvo de 1200.
I wish I could read this to respond because it looks like a well thought out comment.
deserved sub!
You could have lost 5 minutes about the hand tight we get it and more important how does the regulator communicate with the controller that would have been better info
I had damaged one in the past myself and made sure to clarify its a lot easier to do so than you think. I'm still traumatized I guess ha
I secured mine to the wall just in case it turns into a rocket 😂
OSHA approved
How long does that big ass bottle last? Haha
By mid flower about 1 month with that 1 800w light from my other videos. My more recent videos have 2 800watts so I'll see if there's a notable uptake in consumption. I would assume so though
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Wow ... hand tight on a deadly gas is never enough....yes the threads are brass. Not plastic for pete sakes the nut is designed for a wrench not fingers. SNUG IT UP with a wrench !!!
if you strip the threads, that doesn't ruin your tank... 😂.
Come on you spend all that time showing how to put a regulator on a tank and what you really should have been doing is showed how to set up the controller
the controller is different for each brand. So your individual instructions are best. But the tank is the high pressure metal can that i felt needed the proper explanation. I also made a video after this giving a little more detail for those who asked. This one has more views though and is pushed to more ppl.
10 min video could have been 1 min if you had a plan....you lonely bro?
Beverage grade or industrial grade?
I don't believe there is a difference. The shop I go to supplies both using the exact same cylinders.
@@TriStateTrichomes have u found out which kind your using
@@jloch7895 no difference as far as I can tell. Co2 is co2