Sora's Optimized Combos
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.ย. 2024
- CHAPTERS
0:00 Intro
2:33 Low Percent
5:47 Mid Percent
11:13 Up Air Up B Kill Confirm
13:07 High Percents
16:13 Fair Dragdowns
19:05 Battlefield stuff
21:28 End
NOTE: I didn't mention it in the video, but a lot of rage (like, almost max rage at 150%) can start to change how Nair's knockback is. This shouldn't impact his combo game that much. As with regular characters, just go into your later % combos earlier if you have a lot of rage. Rage can also open up a Fair Loop on some characters, I think. No Down Tilt, just Fair 1 Fair 2 repeating. I didn't include this because I don't think it's very good and it relies on rage. Of course, things may change, and I could make a video on rage in the future.
Can you believe Sora is in Smash btw. It's still crazy to me bro.
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Nair Loops:
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Instant Double Jump:
• "Snasen tech" showcase...
Viable Frame 1 Options:
Luigi Cyclone
PT Pokemon Switch
Bayonetta Bats Within
Duck Hunt Can
Yoshi Double Jump Armor
Ryu/Ken Focus Attack (Doesn't work that well cause of Sora's multihits)
Lucina/Marth Dolphin Slash (Doesn't work as well if you space your moves)
Snake Grenade
(easy, effective, and cool way of calling out nade
Du...)
Less Viable Frame 1 Options (You probably won't need to worry about these):
Jigglypuff Rest
Pac Man Trampoline
Wario Bike
Zackray VS Kome from VGBootCamp:
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UPDATE: I've gotten a lot of comments on how to IDJ properly. Here is a useful video by DarTheory4 that explains the buffer and rhythm needed for Sora's IDJ combos: th-cam.com/video/MLxMmjiAjV0/w-d-xo.html
Thank you guys for all the comments and support, super cool to see
Also, for some reason the TH-cam chapters aren’t working at the moment, not sure why. Time stamps are still in the description though. Hopefully TH-cam fixes itself
Hey, I just saw this, and I want to say thank you for referencing my guide onto your comments!
🎉 9
Very very thorough, i’m surprised by how many situations you accounted for. Well done!
It's bizarre how much Sora actually plays as he would In his own game 😅
You did a great job on this, both for Sora’s combo routes and your video editing/voice recording. Good stuff!
Thank you! Big fan of your videos
Best Sora combo guide out there by far
Amazing job!
Great video, would love more! Particularly on consistant ways to win neutral, take stage control and take stocks at late percents. I like the idea of a video going in depth on Sora's Up Air to Up B confirm as well. Looking forward to any more videos you release on Sora
"In this video, I'm going to show Sora's optimal combo routes --"
Yeah, right. I hate these videos cuz they're always a bunch of fake combos that lose to the opponent having their hand on the controller --
*sees "DI RIGHT" in top of the video*
Based content. Vid may be a year old but this is how this type of video should always be done.
I DIDNT EVEN REALIZE THIS WAS DUSTY WHEN I WATCHED THIS
I'm now making it a mission to watch at least 3 minutes of this video whenever it shows up on my recommended. This is the Sora Bible and I'll keep coming back to it.
I haven't seen a video this thorough on a characters combo routes since My Smash Corner went completely dormant over 2 years ago.
You have my sub and notification bell on
Great showcase! Love watching videos going really in depth like this, even if I don't play the character myself.
Fantastic job. Always felt like there was more to Sora outside of a few confirms you see. Stuff like this is what makes playin him so much fun.
Sora borked
Not even close, but you love overrating characters so what else is new.
@@ItzMeNido what does borked mean?
@@Kilerie Broken
Go boxing ring
Everything about this video as perfect! Your explanations, voice, editing, combos. I’ve watched every combo video on Sora I can find and this is definitely the best. I really appreciate the work you put into it. I’ll be coming back to this one for a WHILE
Hey dusty, I found a pretty interesting tech with sora that I wanted to let u know about. It's basically firaga nil or no impact landing. When sora shoots a fire ball, his legs spread out and he moves up slightly. If u time your jump and firaga correctly, u can make it onto a platform with little to no landing lag.
Either short hop, and at about the apex of the jump use firaga, which is the slower but easier method. Or u can full hop and use firaga a bit below the platform. Full hop method is harder to describe, but you'll know when u get it.
This opens up some new and more reliable firaga combos. The biggest and most relevant things being that it lets u true combo into down tilt, grab and Nair. Can get some other things like f tilt, dash attack, sonic blade, up b ect. But the first 3 are the most useful.
Feel free to play around with this tech and let me know what u think. I believe it can be quite useful in some scenarios and make platform stages that much better for him.
Anyways although this video is a bit older now, it's what inspired me to pick up sora and have been using him ever since. Hope u get this message. Take care bro!
Yeah, this is useful after certain platform scenarios. I show off some applications at around 10:20 in this video. It’s very good.
Imagine if Zackray and other top Sora mains begin to practice these combos. This may put Sora at top 5 for sure!
I have watched a million videos for my three "go-to" characters (R.O.B., Pyra/Mythra, Sora) but this is BY FAR the best I have ever seen! Subscribed!
Finding well made videos like this makes me want to pick up the character
This is gold. So glad that someone took the time to show what his true potential can look like. Beyond the Twitter clip combos. This is super helpful, I will be coming back to this video alot as there is alot of good info to unpack and memorize here.
I been labbing his idj combos as well and it didn't take long before I realize that there are sooo many options and set ups to explore. But getting this stuff down I feel would take anyone's sora to another level.
Btw I don't have the mod or anything so I'm not sure if this is true, but I noticed on certain characters u can idj nair, and if u time it right and get nair 2 super close to the ground, it can combo into d tilt. Have u tested this? Cause if it's true, that opens up some combo routes that wouldn't normally work on some characters.
Anyway thank u for putting in the work to make this video. I know I will be putting this info to good use!
2:59 quick interjection:
Due to a bug in how ultimate handles bonus hitstun, the +10 bonus hitstun applies to all hitboxes on f8 of nair. No, this wasn't fixed
Can't wait to see these combos and kill confirms in a tournament match
9/10 never said noops
I’m never saying the word noops out loud
Been waiting on this for a while, appreciate all your hard work man.
The literal best sora guide, Does best job explaining. This really needs more views
I have subbed, I hope you'll bring more quality content!
Good Job
This will definitely elevate my Sora gameplay. GREAT guide! Thanks so much for making this - it was SUPER well done. Will definitely be coming back to this video from time-to-time to brush up on things
Perfect video. Thanks for doing all this work. Sending this to all my Sora friends!
Awesome Job! I liked, subscribe and press the bell for notifications.
This video is super awesome especially for those who main Sora!!!!
Fantastic job Dusty! :)
This was absolutely amazing. Thank you for fleshing all this out. Can not wait to watch it again with a pen and paper to really drill it into my brain. Thank you again
yo the smash flash 2 kh2 track being used
nice.
Here is your well deserved subscribe! Awesome video and Im happy to find your channel!
Damn this doesn't even sound like someone's first video, great job, also very useful.
This was his first fucking vid being (arguably) the best Sora guide out there
Awesome work on this vid! I’ve been playing Sora for a while now, but I haven’t gotten the hang of his IDJ stuff yet. I’ll definitely keep these in mind, hope you make more Sora content in the future!
This was great and exactly what we were waiting for man great job. Had no idea you were going to cook up a whole 20 minute video lol
Thanks for showcasing all of this. Great video, it was worth the wait.
You did a really good job with this. Legit guide. A lot of people were just so hype about sora they were posting whatever bs they were coming up with. I like how you explained and broke down what was true and not true. Much appreciated from a big kingdom hearts fan. Keep up the good work
Here’s to hoping for a max rage combo guide ^^ Many times am I able to live at super high percents as Sora. Would definitely be very helpful tysm for this guide though!
15:22 You gotta admire de Hbox Di lol
This is such a good guide, no filler, just great combos
cant wait to be a sora menace with my friends
Also your narration voice is amazing
dude u are a god send for sora players. thanks for the combo vid to practice. im trying to get the input down after the first Nair. i think its fast fall down to down tilt into fair fast fall down tilt into up tilt.
Definitely going to be practicing these when I get some time. Thanks for this.
Any chance you'll make a video on how to win neutral and stuff? As nice as practicing combos is, I would like some tips on how Neutral should go. Been stuck in a bad mindset of thinking this character is bottom 5 because of how bad his neutral is.
Yeah, I plan on eventually making a video that goes more in depth with his possible neutral options. That won’t be for a while though, as neutral is a lot more complex than punish game. Eventually though
Only 4minutes in and already learned something new, great video!
Easily the best Sora guide available, much love
this is what needed great vid bro
Love sora so much but oh God my hands
Easiest sub of my life
This video help so much I’ve trying to figure out how to combo with this character. Thank you for this video
10/10 video sora shaping up to be exactly what I expected c:
Loved this vid, man. Larry brought me here but this is some good tech.
Amazing video! Will subscribe, hope to see more Sora content!
Thank you for this lovely video, I appreciate the hard and smart work you put in, this is going to help me be rank 1 and beat MkLeo! :D
I was messing around a lot with fair dragdowns on FF, the possibilities are endless and great showcase overall
awesome video it is very handy as a sora main user also hope this means you'll play with sora in smash often 🙏💙
Ah the noop box
This is absolutely scary for the future of Sora regardless of the difficulty of some of these combos
Who knew this chair could make me care
About sora
I watched this and then looked at the username and... don't you play against Nairo sometimes? So cool to see a combo vid from you lol
Amazing guide, for both learning and entertainment
You earned my sub
Best sora guide, keep it up
“Dis is crazy.”
This is kinda nitpicky but if you could add something in the thumbnail to make it easier to spot
I zip past it wherever I look for it
It's mostly me lol
Amazing video though
*chiefs kiss*
So much time spent good job
Do you have any tips on landing the full hop nair -> falling nair 2 on the platfrom you did in the very beginning? I'm having issues connecting the hits and Mario would land on the platform after my first nair hits him.
It sounds like you need to delay the first Nair 2 (before the fullhop), which will let Mario fall towards the ground, so he wont get popped up onto the platform.
@@dusty_carpet3359 Yeah delaying the nair 2 definitely helps, especially since it can still true combo into the full hop nair. Timing is really strict so I'm gonna keep practicing it to get used to it. Thanks for the help!
really great video. Thanks for the details!
This video into subscribe button was a true combo for me
Very nice and helpful
my problem is always the input difference between online and offline feels so drasticly different. Combo percentages are also just hard as hell for me to know when things do and don't work
Love sora loops
Thanks alot for this fam. I'm bout to hit the lab 🤪
Needed this
Will you be able to give ideas on how to fight zoners with Sora?
This is a good video idea! Thanks for the suggestion
@@dusty_carpet3359 dunno if you already did it but I need that, Sora just can’t stand projectiles
Larry took me here
Live together
Laugh whatever
Larry Lurr
Great stuff man
Wow this is amazing
I’m new to smash been having a hard time understanding how to do these combos. On fighterz people put the whole combo description in the video and if you should be holding forward or up forward but none of the smash bros videos on combos tell me any of that. I know what idj and nair is but don’t know if I should be fast falling or moving forward or when to fast fall
Hbox DI lmaoooo
Mans is literally the goat
Bayo’s aerial Bats’ Within is frame 1 so many of these don’t work against Bayo 😔
Overall though, this is definitely an amazing guide! I’ll for sure be taking a look at this often to try to improve my Sora combo game!
16:25 saving for myself
Didn’t understand anything but it’s a good video for ppl who did
Here to boost the algorithm!
voice reveal let’s goooo
5:22 My gawd that looks so fun!
I like to just do the nair forward air loop lol it's really satisfying
Are you gonna do an optimized combo video for slingshot combos as well? I think that’d be neat.
Something I've found that could contribute (unless it was already here and I missed it), a meaty falling nair1 can combo into dtilt. If the nair1 is meaty enough it's a true hitstun combo in training mode at 100%+. Iffy on di, probably stops working with away di at higher percents. Feels like falling nair1 and fair1 are decent neutral options so I'd value any combo that can start off of them
Also just now thinking of this but grab might also work
one thing I would like to ask is the Nair ladders on tri-plat stages like battlefield. Do you do full hop Nair 1 before you reach the peak of your full hop or at the peak?
Before the peak. You won’t be able to buffer the Nair due to it being a full hop, so you’ll have to be quick with it
For dubble jump nair loops, you have to press jump 2 times instantly and remember to nair wait fast fall nair. Then do that again, and look at the appointment to see if they're way too high or not. mmbruh...
I would hate to fight this guys sora online
🔥🔥🔥
MY HERO, I CAN FINALLY GET BETTER AND TRY TO BEAT THAT FRIEND THATS TOO OP AND TALKS TOO MUCH SHIT
Okay now we need to see u do it in a match
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larry brought me here.
Could you explain how to perform the IDJ? pls 👏👏
This video by Snasen goes into how to perform IDJ; Sora uses the buffer method in his combos. th-cam.com/video/DJfzDibpgKc/w-d-xo.html
How are people inputting idk nair consistently? I can't double tap X Fast enough to get the DJ to come out that low to the ground. Are people using tap jump? Cus that's the only thing that comes close to working for me
You can buffer IDJ out of endlag. Watch the video by Snasen (I linked it in the description) for more info on this method
Is it possible to be good with Sora with out idj? I meant like the idj Nair and fair stuff I can do the up air up b combo but I try practicing the idj Nair for hours and watch videos. I still can't do it at all
It’s possible, but you will be missing out on lots of good combos.
IDJ is easier in these instances because we’re able to buffer it out of endlag. I recommend watching the snasen video linked in the description for more info on this method.