Not really clear actually. The same "qualification" is said of deacons and yet Phoebe was called a deacon. The words have very general meanings in the Greek as to a role. Because of this seeming inconsistency we should study this more rather than just citing one verse.
A woman should not be a speaker in a church meeting. Let people believe the words of our Lord Jesus. Don't try to justify what you want. God is not the author of confusion.
@@josephkirimi5453 God isn't the author of confusion so why keep trying to confuse christians by taking verses out of context and making the bible seem like it contradicts itself. Take your own advice.
Corinthians 14:34-36 (KJV) 34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. 35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. 36 What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only? 1 Corinthians 14:34 Life For Today Study Bible Notes Note 22 at 1 Corinthians 14:34: Most commentators believe this is a reference to Genesis 3:16, which states, “Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.” 1 Corinthians 14:35 Life For Today Study Bible Notes Note 23 at 1 Corinthians 14:35: The command for the women to be under obedience (1 Corinthians 14:34) implies that the object of their obedience is to be their husbands (this verse). It might be better stated by saying, “The women must be submissive to their own husbands.” 1 Corinthians 14:36 Life For Today Study Bible Notes Note 24 at 1 Corinthians 14:36: It is possible that this passage may be saying the very opposite of what it seems to be saying. For example, Paul had already stated in 1 Corinthians 11:5 that women pray and prophesy in the church, so he was not forbidding women from speaking in the church altogether. Some think that Paul was addressing a particular problem of someone being disruptive by noisy discussions in the church. This may possibly be true, but by looking at the context, you can see that Paul was asking a question. This question could be paraphrased something like this: “Women are not to speak in the church. What? Hey guys, do you think that the Word of God originates only with you? Does it come forth only from you?”
@Andrew Wommack "when did the law ever give any command that a woman couldn't teach?" Here is an example 1 Corinthians 14:34Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience AS ALSO SAITH THE LAW.
Corinthians 14:34-36 (KJV) 34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. 35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. 36 What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only? 1 Corinthians 14:34 Life For Today Study Bible Notes Note 22 at 1 Corinthians 14:34: Most commentators believe this is a reference to Genesis 3:16, which states, “Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.” 1 Corinthians 14:35 Life For Today Study Bible Notes Note 23 at 1 Corinthians 14:35: The command for the women to be under obedience (1 Corinthians 14:34) implies that the object of their obedience is to be their husbands (this verse). It might be better stated by saying, “The women must be submissive to their own husbands.” 1 Corinthians 14:36 Life For Today Study Bible Notes Note 24 at 1 Corinthians 14:36: It is possible that this passage may be saying the very opposite of what it seems to be saying. For example, Paul had already stated in 1 Corinthians 11:5 that women pray and prophesy in the church, so he was not forbidding women from speaking in the church altogether. Some think that Paul was addressing a particular problem of someone being disruptive by noisy discussions in the church. This may possibly be true, but by looking at the context, you can see that Paul was asking a question. This question could be paraphrased something like this: “Women are not to speak in the church. What? Hey guys, do you think that the Word of God originates only with you? Does it come forth only from you?”
My question is how many man that goes to church have bible study time with their family. How many teach their kids or even know the bible. If that is the case than most woman will not really know God.
2 Timothy 4. 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables
Saw this and agree with it Genesis 29:9 “While he was still speaking with them, Rachel came with her father’s sheep, for she was a shepherdess.” Rachel watched over the sheep to make sure they were watered, fed, and safe. This job was usually for men only! God makes exceptions. He does what He wants. Mary Magdalene was the first female preacher who gave the good news. Luke 24:9. If women had to be silent in the church then why would a all knowing God have these women preach the good news of His resurrection? God is not confused. People are in a state of religion. We must study to show yourself approved by God. Paul was writing a letter to a Pastor of a church that had a previous problem. The woman at the well also preached. John 4:39 Huldah 2kings 22:21-20 she not in instructed men but men sought her out to hear from the Lord. Again, you cannot put God in a box. He will always do what he wants. As long as the person is submitted to God and does His will, he can use anyone. Esther was a Queen and was used in a co-governing roll along side her husband. Deborah also was a prophetess and Judge and the kingdom did not move to war without her Word. She was led by God. Many woman are led by God. And many are not and God will judge them. Just as many men are led by God and many are not and God will judge them also. prophet Joel saying, “‘In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams. Even on my servants, both men and women, I will pour out my Spirit in those days, and they will prophesy'” (Acts 2:17-18). A woman must submit to her own husband. And her husband is the head of her. If the husband is a Pastor and allows her to help him and Shepperd the women. That is not anyones choice, but the husband. Also is safer in some instances for a shepperdess to deciple other women instead of the husband having one on one time with other women. Many legalistic Pastors have fallen like this. I encourage everyone to read their Bible in the Spirit and let God lead. No name calling only GRACE AND TRUTH.
@@brandibee7058 lol I know you want it to be true but that's not so. Rachel was at the well for a reason not because God was trying to tell you that woman could be pastors. She was there to meet Jacob so he could become his wife. Mary magdalene didn't not preach the Gospel she was told to tell the disciples he was risen and guess what? they didn't believe her. The bible is clear cut and dry on this issue. The woman at the well just told them to come see a man whole told her all about here life and the people believed Jesus not off of what she said but because they talk to him themselves.
As a woman in seminary college this is appalling. God is CLEAR about this thing. No matter how badly I want to lead a congregation it will never happen because Jesus is my Lord and I follow his instructions! I could literally be an end-times prophet like Debra BUT NEVER a pastor! He said it and it is “very good” and true.
Ok but just based on your bad interpretation of those verses.. you can never tell a man what to do or tell him anything or correct one for the rest of your entire life. Lol good luck with that one! 😂😂 Silence woman!
@@DtotheK88 Yeah, so.... 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 applause all around for this guy who wins the prize for twisting scripture to mean something so far from the intended meaning that the text is unrecognizable. Here's your trophy 🏆... take a bow.
Just to clarify.. 1 Timothy 2 falls under the heading of “Instructions on Worship.” This is why studying doctrine is not suggested but commanded by God. Because of guys like this. ☝🏼☝🏼☝🏼
1 Corinthians 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
@@davidogejahahamefula7980 There is no male or female when it comes to salvation. there is no jew, greek, black or white. Reguardless Jesus went to the Jew first then the gentile. Jesus has a perfect order. Man is the head of the woman in the body of Christ. Just because there is no male or female when it comes to salvation does not mean the women take on men's roles or men take on female roles.1 Corinthians 11:3. There is no male of female in Christ but Christ still demands a perfect order. Man is the head according to scripture.
Corinthians 14:34-36 (KJV) 34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. 35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. 36 What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only? 1 Corinthians 14:34 Life For Today Study Bible Notes Note 22 at 1 Corinthians 14:34: Most commentators believe this is a reference to Genesis 3:16, which states, “Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.” 1 Corinthians 14:35 Life For Today Study Bible Notes Note 23 at 1 Corinthians 14:35: The command for the women to be under obedience (1 Corinthians 14:34) implies that the object of their obedience is to be their husbands (this verse). It might be better stated by saying, “The women must be submissive to their own husbands.” 1 Corinthians 14:36 Life For Today Study Bible Notes Note 24 at 1 Corinthians 14:36: It is possible that this passage may be saying the very opposite of what it seems to be saying. For example, Paul had already stated in 1 Corinthians 11:5 that women pray and prophesy in the church, so he was not forbidding women from speaking in the church altogether. Some think that Paul was addressing a particular problem of someone being disruptive by noisy discussions in the church. This may possibly be true, but by looking at the context, you can see that Paul was asking a question. This question could be paraphrased something like this: “Women are not to speak in the church. What? Hey guys, do you think that the Word of God originates only with you? Does it come forth only from you?”
@@vivaeuropa Where does scriptute prohibit God using women. It was Paul's prerogative not God's. God was already using women in the Old Testamet. Otherwise we would never had had a female Judge and Female Prophets.
Here's a breakdown of Andrew's unbiblical interpretation: #1) Andrew claims that the 1 Timothy Passage has the definite article "the". But that's actually not what the Greek says, hence why Andrew is reading from some English translation and not from the greek. In truth, there is no definite article "the", so the correct way of reading it is "I do not permit a woman to teach or have authority over man", then Paul continues explaining how this is a universal principle. Also Andrew says the word mean "usurp" authority, but in reality it does not say usurp but exercise in the greek. #2) Andrew claims the Law doesn't lay this out when if fact it does ( Genesis 2:18; Genesis 3:16; 1 Peter 3:1) #3) Andrew equates being a prophetess to that of a leadership position, when there's nowhere in Scripture that says this. He uses Deborah, saying she "went out and lead a war" when in fact she only went to encourage Barak to lead the war. #4) Andrew says that the phrase "husband of one wife" could really be meant for women too, but that is not the case in Greek grammar structure. In this case, the greek more accurately renders this "a one woman kind of man". This is very specific for men, not a general application for humans. Here again we see Andrew completely revealing how little he knows on some of these types of things and the reason he really shouldn't be viewed at as a serious source of scholarship or authority on interpreting biblical text.
The Greek word translated to have authority or usurp authority is only used in this one place in scripture and it means to take by force. Paul is not saying women can't have rightly appointed authority
Genesis 3:16 is punishment eve and every woman under original sin received. A woman is not supposed to be ruled by a man or for her desire to be to her husband. Her original position is to be a helper, which is the same work as the holy spirit. When a woman is saved she isn't under that punishment anymore. The rest that u said aswell is very wrong
@@BEABEREAN10 it is very common for somebody who wants to undermine what the Bible teaches to claim that all Bible translations of a verse are wrong. That is virtually never the case.
My friends, I believe the Word is crystal clear on the issue of female pastors and even female deacons in church. To say otherwise is to try to please the feminist, left wing mania that is sweeping the world. There are sooo many verses that are clear about women in the church. Let us also be gentle with each other concerning all issues. Sometimes I have been right about something, but have been self-righteous and arrogant about it. I must avoid this. I also want to add that men in leadership never means they're allowed to be toxic or tyrannical. We've seen too many men do this. May God richly bless you all!
Contemporary gatherings don't have the pastor design worked out quite right. Andrew is right. One has to twist the scriptures in order to get the format we have today. Andrew reads it in context with proper biblical interpretation.
@@constancetaylor2114 If there is no need for this, why are you still responding to my comment? I was not rude to you but just stating what I believe and responding to YOUR comment to me.
Why do many people commenting on here think that if a woman teaches anyone that she is suddenly exercising authority over them? This is not the same thing as the office of the Pastor. When a man teaches another man, does it give him authority over that man? Of course not. It is the same when a woman teaches a man (or another woman) and nowhere in the scripture does it say she cannot teach a man. Teaching has nothing to do with having authority over another human being. It is a gift of the Holy Spirit and is meant to equip, to edify and to impart. We need to drop that authoritarian definition of teaching. It is messing up our theology and causing division in the church. In Acts 18, Priscilla and Aquila taught Apollos, a man. Priscilla was a woman and Paul had no issues with her teaching a man so why do we continue to condemn women teachers in the body of Christ? And 1 Timothy 2:11-12 is dealing with a specific situation that Timothy was dealing with at the church in Ephesus. It was not meant to be a directive for all women for all time. How do I know that? Because we know from other scriptures that Phillip had several unmarried daughters that prophesied (this is not a quiet activity). We also know that other women prayed and prophesied when men were present based on 1 Cor 11:5. We also know that women received the baptism of the Holy Spirit on the day of Pentecost right along with the men. What was the purpose of this baptism? To be imbued with power to be Jesus' witnesses in the earth. Therefore, we know that there are multiple examples of women not only being present in the public gatherings but they were exercising their gifts of ministry too. Why are we so threatened by women using their gifts? We seem to forget that the early church was going through a great time of transition. Think about how hard it is for any of us to accept change. Imagine what it was like for them in a culture where women were purposefully kept ignorant and yet Jesus allowed them to sit at His feet and learn.
wiznup You said, "nowhere in the scripture does it say she cannot teach a man." 1 Tim. 2:11-12 11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. This exactly what the scripture says. lets not forget that this comment is in a comment section of a video where a man is saying that it is ok for a woman to be a pastor. Can you answer me if it's ok for a woman to be a pastor?
@wiznup you just pointed to yourself to tell if it's ok for a woman to be a pastor. Why don't we point people to the Bible to get biblical doctrine. You think to highly of yourself and have not allowed God to be God and have the say. Sound like I am woman hear me roar. The exact opposite of Peter's description of what a woman should be.
Ok, let me get this straight, the woman can lead a whole church but not her family? So she can lead as long as it's not her family but the church family she can? Andrew, you really missed this one!
@@redefinerealitycoach4240That is the implication of what he said. Husband is the head of the wife and that order is not subject to change. The op is pointing out how it makes no sense for her to be head of a church but can't be head of her own family
@@The_Word_Is_The_Way If someone is a CEO at a billion dollar company should they then treat their spouse as an employee? This is a false equivalency. The church and family are setup very different. The role of headship that is given to the men in marriage is not the same things as a pastor. Looks up Ephesians 5:21-22 in the interlinear Bible and you will see what I mean.
@Barnes, I agree. The reason that the majority of Christians have a very wrong concept of God is by despising the Old Testament, not teaching from it, never read it in its entirety. I knew God by studying the Old Testament and He emphatically says of Himself, "I am God, I change not!" So when I now read the New Testament, I do not misunderstand God's grace. I take into consideration that God is both an intensely loving God and a consuming fire!!! Both sides of God need to be understood in order not to "create a god in our own image" and call it the God of the Bible for then we deceive ourselves per 2 Timothy 4:3-4
Hi do you see the words But I suffer not a woman to teach, found written in 1 Timothy 2:12? 1 Timothy 2:12King James Version12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. Amen.
@natturner-xo2rbi do you see the words But I suffer not a woman to teach, found written in 1 Timothy 2:12? 1 Timothy 2:12King James Version12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. Amen.
@@lorenelkin9415 I was only stating a fact. Just because someone has an opinion or belief about something doesn’t make it true or untrue. Many people when trying to explain things include, “I believe,“ or “in my opinion.“ If I said I believe that airplanes can’t really fly, would that be true just because of my belief?
@@lowell30dk So let me get this straight. The Bible is full of truths? Again, a slippery concept to pin down. If I said I don't believe Mary conceived as a virgin, what's the truth?
Malachi 3:6. "I am the Lord, I do not change". God's word is settled in heaven. Yes, and in the last days, false prophets and false teachers will wax worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived.
@@ldebrobander what is stopping God who is limitless from doing any new thing he wants to do without him taking one drop of counsel from beings who see things through a glass darkly. Who knows God better than he knows himself, and who are ANY of us to try to tell THE GREAT I AM, who he can and cannot call.
@@tiathompson6674 because God says in his word, that He is not a man that he should lie nor a son of man that he should repent and change his mind. all scripture is inspired by the Holy Spirit. I'm sure you have read the teachings of the Apostle Paul as far as the authority and structure ordained in the churches Also there is something about women where we are prone to deception. Just go back to the garden of Eden. Even the Bible tells us clearly that Eve was deceived but Adam was not. The problem is women do not want to come under the authority that Christ Himself established in the church. Just like the curse that we received when Adam and Eve fell, it's still in effect and women are still resisting authority, authority that God ordained himself in the body of Christ. When it comes to the body of Christ, every leadership position or positions of authority are specifically listed to be filled by men. It's kind of like the military. Which I was in for almost 12 years. You have officers who are above the enlisted. You have Sergeant who are above privates. There has to be a heirarchy in order to maintain perfect order. function. when women choose to rebell against what is clearly been ordained by Jesus Christ, then a woman is rebelling directly against Christ.
Micaela Rachelle LoL you think you know better than Andrew? You think God can't use women to bring a lost soul to christ?? You are living under the law.
May God bless you richly and watch over and protect you! It's a hard world, especially for young people, because we live in a world without God. And even those who are suppose to represent God have forgotten His word and have lost all fear of God. My life in church was transformed when I re-read Revelation Chps1-3 and realized that my church never taught on that Jesus-just the warm, sugary, lovey dovey jesus that never gets upset at anyone. That's not true! When we live in willful sin He does get upset bc He does love us! The same Jesus Christ that said Jn3:16 is the same Jesus Christ that said Revelation 3:16, and if your christ wouldn't say the latter then you have a false christ. I pray we will continue to endure firm to end knowing that He will keep us as our hearts are steadfast upon Him-God bless you dear "Stayed upon Jehovah, hearts are fully blest. Finding as He promised, perfect peace and rest."
1 Corinthians 14:35-36-37 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only? If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.
Being politically correct is one thing and biblically correct is another thing. Somehow, if you preach a wrong gospel, you will have to answer the Lord. Ask the Holy Spirit, not Andrew. You will find the right answers. The Lord is a Lord of order, not chaos.
And we should listen to a man explain this? And why? Man is the 6, the number of the beast. Why? Because he did not obey God. Women have to preach, teach and spread the gospel because man is not faithful to God.
Mejor Toler, Paul is talking before the Bible was written and placed into the hands of women. At the time Paul was only teaching the men and the women needed to remain silent. Once the Bible was in the hands of every man, woman and child, then God has ordered for All to prophesy, preach and bare witness of His coming.
Mejor Toler, This was before the Word of God was written and people were taught to read and write. Once The Word of God was put into a form where people could carry it with them, like a soldier takes the New Testament into war with her or him today where it was not possible at the time. Men have been saved at the Preaching of the Word by Women. Remember, that Jesus comes back for His Bride and that is female in context, just as He told the story of the 5 females who had their lampstands ready. It was not men who had their lampstands ready, but females that He describes. It's sad that women will outnumber men in heaven, because men are so worried about being evil before being pure.
This is true, but not all men follow God, and lead their families. Women must stand in the gap when men fail. Besides, there will be no sexes in heaven. None. Not one.
I expounded something in the Bible just today to my husband, a man. Why do men hate a woman to tell them anything about God? Does a woman keep silent if the Lord tells her to expound scripture to a lost man, and just let him remain lost? That does not make sense, especially when God does not reside in a building and we, the body, are the church. Conundrums like these are the reason we delve deeper into scripture and try to find out why Paul was saying what he said, what does it mean, and to whom was it meant for.
@ProveAllThings-tg2ip There are those who believe a woman cannot expound anything to a male. Period. Yes, I speak scripture into my husband’s life when a situation comes up. You can call it teaching, you can call it expounding, or maybe even preaching at that moment. He does the same for me. We are both children of God and joint heirs with Christ. If it is needed I will indeed teach/preach the Word of God to a male if it is needed so he can hear the Good News.
josh ford Yes. People have tickling ears they heap up teachers for themselves to hear what they wanna hear. These people hate the truth, not worth to fight with them, they're not born of the Father. John 17:17. Blessings
Why are there a woman mayor, a female manager, a female judge, female doctor, scientist? The bible also forbids women in male positions of jobs as they are called to serve their husband, breed as many children and remain in the kitchen.
@@patricksaxon3983 ... What verse did you pull that bunch of drivel from... The book of MakeUpMyOwnVerse 1:1... You obviously know nothing of scripture or God if that's what you believe...
@@theburninator5547 When a woman has chosen the high calling of being a wife, her submission to her husband is “as to the Lord” ( Ephesians 5:22 ). When she chooses the high calling of motherhood, “Sons are a heritage from the Lord, children a reward from him” ( Psalm 127:3 ); this, too, is itself an offering to the Lord.
Andrew Wommack, is teaching from his opinion and not Bible. Anyone who says that most of what the Apostle Paul wrote concerning women teaching, homosexuality, and remarriage after divorce was based on the culture at that time, is saying the Word of God is not Inspired (breathed on by the Holy Ghost), and that makes God a liar. Paul taught and preached under the inspiration of the Holy Ghost from a "Kingdom of God" prospective and not culture. He taught what one must do to receive salvation and how we are to maintain that salvation til the end or we will be lost. God created Adam first out of the dust of the earth, but Eve was created out of Adam. Adam was made in God's own image and after His likeness; not Eve. That's why Jesus Christ came as a man to redeem mankind and not as a woman. Since Adam brought sin into the world it took another man to redeem mankind and that is the "Son of Man" Jesus Christ. There are no Books in the Bible Authored by a Woman. Even the book of Esther was written by a man. All of the Prophetic Books were written by men. Male Prophets spoke on behalf of God and Kings not female Prophetess. Only Men walked in the Office of a Prophet. A Prophetess is not a Female Prophet, she is a woman with the Gift of Prophecy. One is the Office the other is the gift of prophecy. Jesus called 12 disciples and all where men. Mary and Martha were not part of the 12 disciples. When He called the 70 and sent them out they where all men. The 12 disciples later became the 12 Apostles of the Lamb; not one was a woman. On the day of Pentecost Peter stood up and Preached salvation not a woman. Paul tells us in 1 Timothy 2:14...Adam was not deceived but that the Woman being deceived was in the transgression. So this is God's command, not Paul's, for women not being in Five Fold Leadership in the Church. The words Apostles, Prophets, Teachers, Evangelist and Pastors are "Masculine Nouns", so these offices where never intended for women. The sad thing is these so called "Men of God" have allowed the worldly feminist ideology to creep into the Church and they are afraid of losing most of their membership (the church is mostly female) that is why they twist God's word to give women titles that God never ordained for women to hold. We will all be judged by the word of God and those found lacking in every area will be cast into the Lake of Fire where their is weeping and gnashing of teeth and the worm died not.
NtheNow religious spirit? God is not a man.. He used a donkey you don't think he can use a woman to teach and minister? I was brought to my salvation by a female. Thank God I didn't believe like you
@@melthomas6519 that is the Old Testament... 33 For God is not a God of confusion but of peace. As in all the churches of the saints, 34 the women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says. 35 If there is anything they desire to learn, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church. - 1 Corinthians 14:33-35 Plain as day right that do you want to argue with the Word of God? The Word of the Holy Spirit speaking through Paul?
If you believe the king James bible .. you must BELIEVE APOSTLE PAUL SAYS A bishop is A MAN .. not A WOMAN .. A MAN must be A husband of One WiFE .. that shows you the the Role of A PASTOR.
WHO WAS THE LETTER WRITTEN TOO....THERE IS YOUR ANSWER .....IT WASNT TO THE CHURCH...NOW U CAN USE THOSE SCRIPTURES FOR MINISTRY ORDINATION AND PROTOCOLS.....
1 Corinthians 14:35. Read that sir before you say things out of order twisting words isn't a way to the Lord.. Do not add or remove or change the Bible to fit your selfish requirement. Thank you sir God bless you and guide you Amen
@@wiznup Is there proof he wasn't married? And beside that point, plainly if a woman is a husband of one wife, is she in sin? Forgive me, but you're swallowing a camel and straining at a gnat.
@@wiznup It's neither here, nor there weather he was married or not. If you have a problem with following plain and clear scripture, that would be your problem. Taking a verse that's just as plain as it can be, and casting a shadow on it for your own benefit, or agenda is just as wrong as it can be. And rebellious also for that matter.
@@Pastor_RogerSherwood Paul talks about women preaching to a congregation of men. Of course we are allowed to offer an opinion. Women can also hold ladies groups. Believe me, I didn’t always have this concept until I studied God’s word for myself. Too many preachers/teachers twist scripture.
Women can lead children and other women. She can be a prophetess, evangelist, healer etc. But not a Bishop or Pastor. The lead position is not for a woman. The Bible is clear about that. Jesus never took a woman disciple. Apostle Paul is clear on what the Holy Spirit revealed. No need for any further interpretation.
Jesus words: "Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”.......question: are disciples only male? 1 Tim.3:2 A bishop then MUST be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;..apostle Paul had no wife, yet he was an overseer, Timothy was the first bishop in Ephesus,who was also not married....how come these two men could be overseers without being the husband of one wife?.....Priscilla (or Prisca) and Aquila are mentioned by name six times in the Greek New Testament. They are always mentioned together, and, significantly, in four of those occurrences, Priscilla’s name is mentioned first. This unconventional order of the wife’s name before her husband’s may be an indication that Priscilla’s ministry ability was more prominent than Aquila’s......Priscilla and her husband, Aquila, were devoted friends and ministry colleagues of Paul. At some point, or perhaps several times, they even risked their lives for Paul’s sake (Rom. 16:3-5). Paul first met Priscilla and Aquila when he went to Corinth as part of his second missionary journey. Priscilla and Aquila had just arrived in Corinth from Rome in around 49 AD. Paul then spent eighteen months living and working together with them (Acts 18:1-3, 11, 18). After Corinth, Priscilla, Aquila, and Paul travelled together to Ephesus (Acts 18:18). Paul had confidence in the abilities of both Priscilla and Aquila as church leaders, and he left them in Ephesus to lead a church that met in their house (1 Cor. 16:19). It was while Priscilla and Aquila were leading a church at Ephesus that they met Apollo who was mighty in the scriptures......As church leaders, there would have been many occasions for Priscilla and Aquila to teach, either informally or in slightly more formal house church meetings. Neither Luke nor Paul gives any hint of censure or disapproval about Priscilla teaching Apollos, or her role as a house church leader. In light of the fact that Priscilla did explain Christian doctrine to a man, the blanket ban by some that prohibits women from teaching men must be reassessed and redressed.......
But an evangelist or a teacher is a leader in the body of Christ...not a Pastor... but holds a form of leadership.....If we don't right interpret what Paul said correctly..he said women should be quiet..in churches...So again if we don't interrupt it right Women shouldnt speak at ALL...It doesn't even give leave way..for women to say anything..!!!!Whether other women or children....But never the less I believe sort of like you .We can be an evangelist or teacher....Under submission to a Pastor (male) of a church...So in a nutshell the lead pastor of a church should be a man...And his wife can co-pastor but under his authority.....She is not the lead..just like the in the home..she is not the lead....and she is not to USURP authority over her husband ..she letting God use her .but he is the head...Whether that's the lead pastor or her husband has no business ... saying Anything in the church ...And I think that was Paul's point ..women that can't submit to make leadership... whether it be her husband..or a single women...a pastor...Need to shut up in the church!!!! 😂....
Paul's prohibiting of women teaching men is found in his instructions for the church. Not going back to Adam and Eve. And his other instruction is that an Elder, which is teacher, is to be the husband of one wife. That negates a woman being a teacher. You can't comare women prophets as being the same as teachers. Paul clearly makes a distinction between the two. Ephesians 4:11-16 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; It's amazing how there is such a never ending amount of these apostate teachers tickling the ears of those that need justification for rejecting certain Scriptures. The more ears that are tickled, the more money that comes into their pockets.
The pastor of our church is a woman and is the longest current standing Pastor in our County. Out of all the churches I have been to she is the most prayerful and open to the moving of the Holy Spirit as any pastor I know. Her husband is the head of her household and she does not usurp authority over him. While people are saying women cannot preach, she has been doing it and has been watching people get saved over the years!!!
People don't say women can't preach, God does. For you to use your "pastor" as an example of what is biblical, or for Andrew Womack to use Marilyn Hickey as an example to prove that something is right, biblically, is heresy. *You don't use an example in life to prove God's Word, you use God's Word to prove an example*. Why not also say that the 2 guys who have been together for 50 years make a good marriage because they've stood the test of time? God says one woman one man: that's the standard. To deviate for any reason is to deny God's word.
@@leighb.8508 God also states not to be unequally yoked but yet tells a prophet to marry a prostitute. Do not limit what God can do, and that right there is limiting how God can use people, God can use anybody he wants however he wants because he is the all knowing all powerful God, and you have to humble yourself and except that as a Christian.
@andrew Ison , if she said that she saw god in his full glory , and still lives , would you believe her? Or would you say what god said :"no one can see me and live". I know for sure that scripture has more authority than your female pastor. Im saying this with love my friend. I do not know her , so I have no reason to doubt her intentions, but god is very clear about it. Many so called catholic "saints" claim to have seen and spoken to Mary , and they became outstanding believers to the eye, doing numerous good deeds, while believing a false gospel : Mary as redeemer. Scripture says we are not saved because of good deeds, but by believing in jesus christ as redeemer, and not Mary or whatever saint. Please watch phil johnson's sermon on : scripture vs human experience. God bless
@@leighb.8508 Amen amen amen Well said. People are using pastor's and life cenarios to prove God's word but The truth remains. There is a way that seemeth right but the end thereof is death. That's what happening right there. God is not mocked and his word was refined 7 times. Let them try twisting it but the truth remains.
The word pastor in the Greek as used by the Apostles is MASCULINE! A pastor is a SHEPARD and a woman should not USERP authority over a man. Quote Apostle Paul unquote,,"Our Church" is not "The Church", plus "our Country" means your church is the litmos for all the churches in the world, please? Lets talk about the real CHURCH,,,,Who is the head???
SADLY, this man does not understand the WORD OF GOD BY THE HOLY SPIRIT. NAME ONE WOMAN JESUS ordained!! NONE!! Name ONE WOMAN in the New Testament who led the MINISTRY or was ORDAINED an Elder!! NONE!! WHAT woman did JESUS CALL to apostleship, or overseeing the flock?? NONE!! Women are surely USED OF THE LORD, but NEVER in the government of God. This man misquoted ONE Scripture,
@@ntokozomofokeng1355 how's about you try to explain why these leaders were told to be the "husband" of one wife?😐... Last I heard, husbands are men-folk
Just don't disrespect people based on their views even though you might think you are right and by the way that's not a major doctrine of the bible so it's no big deal. Speak the truth with love. But I'd really advise you to study and open your mind.
@@ntokozomofokeng1355 hey i sometimes get curious but im honestly annoyed because i see both sides but the word husband does seem too clear so please try to explain with scripture. I won't argue. Trust me, i have a woman pastor myself and I've grown but i also see The Word. Don't know if its a heaven or hell issue but differently an issue among believers. In fact if you don't feel comfortable don't respond because i seem to feel uncomfortable writing this because i got other things to master through Christ and that is repentance and full time surrender with The Help of The Holy Spirit
So your answer is, in other words husband of one wife means "one mate" and the culture at the time was talking about polygamy, and whatever other story you are feel like using. How you gonna be silent in the church as a pastor? Why cant you just accept what it says? We dont have like it, we dont have to agree, just obey. You are right a random man doesnt have authority over a random woman who isnt his wife. But mixing lies with the truth is how the sheep get led astray.
Paul's comments about women not speaking in church was addressed to married women only. It is the traditions and doctrines of men who have conflated that one scripture into keeping women from full participation in the church. Harmonized scripture shows absolutely that Christ intended women to teach and support the church - including teaching men. It seems to me that the men who complain most about female teaching are not able to mount successful counters to them because they would rather blame women than lead, which is what they are supposed to be doing. And by forcing a "lesser" role on unmarried women, they have cut the church off from the energy, love and support from many of God's children who happen to be daughters! The church is exactly where it is today because men won't lead properly and they discourage women from full participation - due entirely to their own traditions and doctrines, much like the Pharisees.
Yes, it's possible to twist the Word of God as this leader did. In fact it was predicted long time ago in the Bible they will do it in the last days because the Laodicea church age is so lukewarm towards the Holy Word so finally Jesus will finally spew them out of His mouth. REV. 3:13-22.
11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. I TIMOTHY 2: 11-12 Isn't this plain speech? Does this require any interpretation? Misinterpretation and disobedience to the Word of God is what Catholic church was doing for centuries and now protestants do the same because daughters had to come back to mother harlot. It is difficult to explain this different.
The Bible clearly shows God's active use of women in leadership roles throughout the Old and the New Testament. We believe this was the model of the Church that Christ set up after He ascended. We believe that women can fulfill all rolls in the Five Fold Ministry: Apostles, Prophets, Evangelists, Pastors, Teachers. We believe that the common objections against women in ministry, (1 Corinthians 14:34-35 and 1 Timothy 2:12) when seen in the context in which they were written, and taken with the whole counsel of the Bible, show that the prohibition on women as leaders in ministry was made for specific church's needs at that time. In 1 Corinthians 11:5 Paul is stating that women will prophesy. Exodus 15:20 and Micah 6:4 we see a story of the prophetess Miriam, who served with Moses and Aaron. Judges 4-5 we find Deborah who was appointed by God himself to rule over all of Israel and led them to great victories. Acts 21:8-9 mentions four daughters of Phillip with the gift of prophecy. Romans 16:1-2 Paul commends Phoebe as a Pastor and an Evangelist. Acts 18:26 shows Priscilla and Aquilla instructing Apollos, going against the interpretation that no women should teach a man. Romans 16:7 describes Junia as, not only an apostle, but a notable one among them! We, as Christ's Church, must be able to discern the cultural context of what is being written so we may more accurately understand that author's intent. Why would Paul, using a few verses, forbid women everywhere for all time from exercising spiritual authority over any man, when there are so many examples from the New and the Old Testament of God appointing and using women to grow His Kingdom in powerful ways. The answer is clear: the passages were interpreted to disallow women as leaders have been done so based on the traditions of man, and not on scripture alone.
Hi, Teri! Thank you for your comment. We appreciate your study of God's Word. God wants to use women powerfully. In Christ, there is neither male nor female (Galatians 3:28). We can all be used by God! - AWMI Team
1 Corinthians 14:34-35 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but [they are commanded] to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
You are totally right! Joel 2:28-29 fulfill in Acts 2: so many more scriptures , example, Galatians 3:28 - There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. Joel 2:28” And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: 29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit. Acts 2:17 - And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: Acts Ch 2:17 , was the Fulfillment of Joel 2: 28-29. Philippians 4:3 - And I intreat thee also, true yokefellow, help those women which laboured with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and [with] other my fellowlabourers, whose names [are] in the book of life. Acts 18:26 - And he began to speak boldly in the synagogue: whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, they took him unto [them], and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly. Clearly we see Women in the New Testament engaged in significant ministry, performing valuable service in sometimes-difficult situations. This is readily seen in the Acts of the Apostles. Both Priscilla and Aquila spoke privately to Apollos at Ephesus (Acts 18:24-26. Further, women clearly played a significant role in the work of the Apostle Paul. In his letter to the Romans, Paul identified sixteen significant helpers in ministry (16:1-16), and at least ten of them were women. Who knows what the health of the church at Philippi would have been were it not for Lydia (Acts 16:13-15), apparently a benefactor to the church, and others such as Euodia and Syntyche (Phil. 4:2-3)? And of course, women made a significant contribution to Jesus' ministry. Luke showed appreciation of their financial support and company with Him (Luke 8:1-3).
Thanks for sharing, Sheila! God wants women in ministry. We believe when man and woman are in unity, that great accomplishments for the kingdom can be done! Be blessed! - AWMI Team
There is neither male nor female but all are one in Christ Jesus, Galatians 3:28. Andrew is absolutely correct on the woman issue. Quite a few years ago I had come in contact with a Biblical Greek New Testament scholar and we were discussing this topic of woman being ministers. He quickly pointed out that not only were there husband and wife teams as ministers in the New Testament (Priscilla and Aquila, 1Corn.16:19) but there were woman ministers in the church as well..........One of those woman was a woman named Phoebe, Rom. 16:1 , he pointed out to me that in this verse Phoebe is called a SERVANT of the church......... but.showed me in the Greek text where this same Greek word that they translated as SERVANT when addressing Phoebe, was the exact same Greek word they used for Paul and other male leaders when they were addressing them as MINISTERS!! Just go to the Strongs or other Greek concordance and research it, its all there. He said this word servant in Rom.16:1 should have been translated minister. I then asked him why this was not translated correctly and he laughed and said most of the New Testament translators were all male chauvinist !!! The bad part about it was he said he was serious! While I am here I would like to address the false teachings that have been used against women to try to keep them out of the ministry as well as teaching the Bible ~ 1~ is the scripture which says I do not allow a women to teach or usurpe authority over the man. Notice it says THE MAN , THE MAN, THE MAN meaning the womans husband,. It is not speaking against women teaching in the church. That verse also uses the word userpe which gives the idea of being forceful over the man . God has placed order in the home and chose the husband as the head of the house which is right , someone has to be the leader. This has nothing to do with teaching in ministry. 2 ~Concerning the scripture which speaks of women keeping silent in church. This is not talking about women not teaching nor ministering in church as so many men have taught . In the early days of church gatherings, the men sat on one side of the room & the women on the other. Women would at times yell over to their husbands when they had a question.This is the problem Paul was addressing there as the rest of that scriptures says "let them ask their husbands at home". The Amish still practice this today. The men sit on one side of the room & women on the other. Some men seem to keep their focus on the scripture which says " Wives submit to your husbands" & beat women over the head with this demanding she submit to his whims. These same men never finish reading the scripture which also tells men to LOVE their wives as Christ loved the church & gave himself up for her........ Think about what this is saying. When a man passionately loves a women in that way, he will be kind, gentle & loving & protective towards her .....what women in her right mind would not want to submit to a guy like that!!!
heismyhightower 1 Timothy 2:12 KJV [12] But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp AUTHORITY (notice this, pastor has authority) over the man, but to be in silence.
Morge20 Correct. Qualifications of pastor : "HUSBAND of one wife". It says nothing about "OR the wife of one husband". The Bible is very clear . All one has to do is read it in proper CONTEXT.
Kesha Powell................................what you just listed is the qualifications of the Bishop which is an elected position. Meaning he is chosen by the people, like the elder or the deacon. The five fold ministers, which are offices designated by God (the Holy Spirit) are those offices chosen by God (Ephesians Chapter 4). That would be the Pastor, Preacher, teacher, Evangelist, and Prophet. No where in the bible does it list the qualification for these offices, other than they ARE SELECTED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT.
All these people that are twisting God's Word, to suit their warped agenda, will suffer the consequences for adding to and taking away from the Word of God.
Read 1 Timothy 2:13-14 For Adam was created first, and then Eve. 14 And it was not Adam who was deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and broke God's law.
Mr Wommack in all respect, you might want to consider removing this video. Your interpretation of 1Tim2:12 hinges on the definite article “the” occurring before “man.” This does occur in some English translations but it does not occur in any Greek manuscript I could find.
2 Timothy 2:12 γυναικι δε διδασκειν δε Aγυναικι ουκ επιτρεπω ουδε αυθεντειν ανδρος αλλ ειναι εν ησυχια The original text does NOT have the article THE, it is simply ANDROS (man, male), where in the world did you see the article there and how did you come to the conclusion that ANDROS = husband ???? And please also point out to any writings of the Church Fathers or Apostolic Fathers who ever interpreted these verses the way you and other shallow theologians from the last 2 centuries interpret.
iddorin He will not respond to you. He is a people pleaser, more properly a woman pleaser. It's called Adam syndrome, meaning that he's more afraid of the wrath of Eve than the wrath of God. Be a Berean and don't allow anyone to deceive you. Great to see someone who actually STUDIES his Bible. (plus I recommend the Textus Receptus Greek instead of the manmade Westcott-Hort manuscript from the two rationalists who denied the deity of Jesus)
I have checked out the writings of the church fathers and it's pretty interesting that if women keeping silent in the church service was only for the Corinthians or only for the Ephesians or it was only about judging prophecy or if it was really about wives and husbands rather than the public church service, that completely escaped their attention. We are supposed to be impressed that some seminary professor 1800 years later discovers such an interpretation?
1 Corinth 14:34,35 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
Back in the day women would constantly ask thier husband's questions about what what said during church and it says to be silent that's what that means read the Greek and the truth from religion will set you free
@@400080vikkash Obey the unchanging word of God without any question. What apostles said to the churches is still followed and maintained in churches. Why so much confusion with such simple instructions. Women can prophecy, teach women, spread gospel, speak the word to other unbelieving brothers, but keep silence in the church. That's it. Now why does that sound offensive to some 🤔
"Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law. (Letting it run i continuity, for all ages/time) 35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a SHAME for WOMEN to SPEAK in the church. " 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 "Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication..." Revelation 2:20 "This is a true saying, if a MAN desire the office of a bishop, HE desireth a good work. 2 A bishop then must be blameless, the HUSBAND of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to TEACH..." 1 timothy 3:1-2 These 3 scriptures is the answer to this... Read the KJV and realize the Truth!
It is hard for me to use the liberating words of the bible to oppress people from Godly leadership, wisdom and authority. Reading the New Testament Jesus spoke out against people who were using the Law of Moses to shackle people just as Jesus rebuked sin. I have to ask my self by using scripture to quiet the voices and to oppress the spirits of God seeking hearts in our churches are we making the same mistakes as the leaders of the Law in the time of Jesus? Are we missing the message that was right there all along to rather preach a controlling legalistic message that can make sense if we simply read the words on the page? Also I do not want to put words in your mouth but the comment at the end, do you stand in the belief that the KJV is the interpretation that we should hold above all others? (english speaking of course, I know we'd both would advocate for original greek and hebrew :) ) If you do I'd love to hear your reasoning (no sarcasm) I'm very interested and appreciative of hearing and understanding where people come from and how they got there! I love discussing thoughts and theology with others even if it is on the internet where we see more vile thoughts and opinions then we do genuine curiosity and conversation. Thank you for sharing your voice
You absolutely don't know what you are talking about. 1 Corinthians 14:29-32 “Two or three prophets should speak, and the others should weigh carefully what is said. 30And if a revelation comes to someone who is sitting down, the first speaker should stop. 31For you can all prophesy in turn so that everyone may be instructed and encouraged. 32The spirits of prophets are subject to the control of prophets.” 2 Things here: “Two or three prophets should speak” - 1 Cor 14:29 “And if a revelation comes to someone who is sitting down, the first speaker should stop - σιγάτω (sigatō) - .” - 1 Cor 14:30 The word here also is the same as the others - σιγάτω (sigatō). Today’s Application The point here is also, there are very strict instructions for Prophets to dicern what other Prophets are saying - I’ve not seen very many “Prophets” interpreting one another. But the bigger point here is that if Prophets and those speaking in tongues have this type of restriction - how much more of a restriction to everyday men have? No one is to be disruptive. Women 1 Corinthians 14:34 34Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak - σιγάτω (sigatō) -, but must be in submission, as the law says. 35If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak - σιγάτω (sigatō) - in the church. Today’s Application Now, when looking at each of these cases before, people speak in tongues all the time and over each other, if someone is an actual prophet, I’ve not seen other prophets to interpret that word right there - and the number limitations for each of these are strict. Are these followed? No, and we all know they aren’t. Even within this particular verse - are women actually forbidden from speaking in Churches? Wouldn’t it be disgraceful for us to allow that any where? But how many churches do you know that actually don’t allow women to speak at all as this verse says? So here we get to the meat of this particular issue, and I am going to bring several, Biblical and grammatical points to this verse. The assumptions that people gather, from this: This is referring to all women Women are to never ever speak in Church And that is disgraceful for a women to speak at all in church. Let’s look at the greek for this: It doesn’t actually ready “women” It reads, The women. The definitive article might seem contrite, but it’s really not when we are looking at the true meanings of a sentence and its structure. This is important because we have to look at the next part of this. “They should ask their own husbands; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the Church.” Why would there need to be a distinction between The women and also their own? That is a bit odd, if this is blanked statement about all women and them not speaking in Church. It is clear that these particular women are asking questions to people OTHER than their own husbands, that this is about women speaking out of turn and being disruptive and asking any one anything. You may think this is a stretch, but if a woman doesn’t have a husband, then why would Paul need to make this particular distinction, not just to ask their husbands, but to ask their own husbands. The word for woman in greek is γυναῖκες gynaikes - This is also used for wife when it’s speaking in relation to giving husbands an instruction. (Colossians 3:18, Ephesians 5:22, 1 Peter 3:1). So this is clearly talking about the wives, whom Paul had gotten report about, that were spouting off and asking other peoples husbands, and not paying attention in Church. The further reasoning for this goes to the next point which is contradictory to the command for silence - σιγάτω (sigatō). Women are never to speak in Church Paul didn’t just say that, but He said that it was disgraceful! Well - when looking at the instructions for wearing veils - Paul not only says that it’s ok for women to speak, but he would be including them in 1 Corinthians 14:29-32 of being able to stand with the men and prophecy. 1 Corinthians 11:2 - 5 2I praise you for remembering me in everything and for holding to the traditions just as I passed them on to you. 3But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, a and the head of Christ is God. 4Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head. 5But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head-it is the same as having her head shaved. Now here is something so interesting - Paul is giving women instructions for wearing a head covering - while praying and prophesying! Women speaking in the Church and Paul Approves Is he then giving these women also the instruction to not speak and that it’s disgraceful for a woman to speak in Church? It can’t be. Because he is directly addressing their authority to be able to pray and prophesy in the Church. So thus this first instruction is to be looked at not in terms of ALL women - but a particular set of them, who were being rowdy, and asking men other than their husbands questions. Going back to 1 Corinthians 14:29-32 and 1 Corinthians 14:27 - these are instructions not just for men, but ALSO for women. Thus everyone was under the exact same rules for being silent in Church if you weren’t speaking in tongues with and interpreter, prophesying, or doing another approved practice. But again, isn’t it odd, that Paul would have to tell men to NOT cover their heads? This is because of the practices of the day when they would sacrifice to their pagan gods - that men would also cover their heads. Further more - when we look at the rest of the discussion about women wearing veils - the discussion of long hair comes up. 1 Corinthians 11:14 14Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him, Here we have another rule for men that we don’t strictly enforce today with men having long hair. But regardless, there are very few churches that make women wear a veil in church, I do not know of one personally. So Now let’s head on over to the big boy 1 Timothy 2:12 - “I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.” When looking at this all of the above is needed for the proper context into what this means, and the getting used to the idea of deeply looking at what the greek means, what Paul means, and the role of women in the Church. I rarely hear, if ever, someone dig very deeply into this with the furor that is used for other issues, and this is why I totally understand your take on things. So we have established in 1 Corinthians several things: Paul seemingly said that women are to remain silent and that it’s disgraceful for them to speak The use of the same greek word for silence used in relationships to Prophets and those speaking in tongues The conclusions after digging into these are such: The context of all of this is pertaining to having order in the Church and making it so that outsiders could come in and get saved Paul clearly affirms women who pray and prophecy - as he speaks of the proper head coverings for them in relation to praying and prophesying Thus Paul is couldn’t be referring to all women when he was speaking of instructions for them - as there would be a clear contradiction here The rules were for men and women who were not in any authorized way participating in the learning and sharing of Christ and His Teachings (They weren’t teaching from the NT because it hadn’t been written yet) Everyone was required to keep silent in Church
If we deeply study and analyze the Epistle of St. Paul to the Galatians (Gal. 3:28-29), which narrates, "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither Slave nor Free, there is neither Male nor Female for all in ONE with Christ Jesus." Q1?... In what ASPECT did the Epistle of St. Paul to the Galatians relate regarding "NO DISTINCTION"?... Answer... from the ASPECT of SALVATION only... Q2?... Do the "Duties and Responsibilities" given to Man and Woman by God, have NO longer DISTINCTION in Christ?... Answer...NOPE... there are still distinctions between a Man and a Woman... Christ said, "Whomsoever DOES the WILL of my Father, is my mother, brother, and sister ... and will enter the Kingdom of Heaven."... Q3?... What is one of the WILL of God (God's Prerogative)?... Answer... Women of Faith must/should learn to KEEP Silent/Quiet in total Humility and submission to the Church of God in Christ... just like Blessed Mary, who is Blessed among Women, found highly Favored by God and full of Grace from the Holy Spirit, even she is qualified to TEACH and PREACH, kept her silent/quiet in total humility and submission to the Church of God in Christ Jesus till her death...all "Women of Faith" should walk-on her set of example. Q4?... If Galatians 3:28-29 covers all ASPECT of Equality (no distinction)... therefore, does this mean the HEAD of the Woman is no longer the MAN based on 1 Cor. 11:3?... Answer... Nope... Man is still the HEAD of the Woman SPIRITUALLY both in the Church and in Marriage.. while the HEAD of every MAN is Christ Jesus... Q5?... Can "Women of Faith" do anything in the Church of God in Christ?... Answer... Yes, God created the Woman (Eve) as the BEST SUITABLE HELPER (not slave or servant) for man, she can help assist man with the distribution, collection, donation, and contribution to the Church, and she can also do the Church's Gospel Choir with musical instruments, etc... but leave the Church MANAGEMENT, TEACHING, PREACHING, REFUTING, DEBATING, CORRECTING, BAPTIZING, and making DISCIPLESHIP to the "MEN (Elder) of Faith" for the Church of God in Christ... Christ gave the KEYS to the Gates of Heaven to a Man named Apostle Peter and not to any qualified women... Q6?... What if there is NO "Man of Faith" fit to be a Pastor/Preacher?... Answer... Have faith in God... God can make a way, when there seems to be no way... Prophet John the Baptist said to the stubborn Jews that God could make Descendants of Abraham out of the ROCK... the Rock is Christ, and that is why, Christians are grafted by God to the Real VINE (Christ Jesus) as the adopted Sons of Abraham... Perhaps, if there will be no more "Men of Faith," God will use a BOY (male child) to Teach and Preach the Gospel... impossible to Man but very possible with God. In conclusion, the only TIME that there will be absolutely NO DISTINCTION in all ASPECT is after the JUDGMENT DAY of God... Those who will be SAVED will live the Life of IMMORTALITY, with no more distinction between Man and Woman, Ethnicity, Nationality, etc., they will not get married to have a family of their own, and no more procreation... We will be as ONE BODY in Christ Jesus living in the New Heaven and New Earth with New Jerusalem, forever... Praise be to God in Christ Jesus... Amen and Amen...
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@@j-mshistorycorner6932 by the law he means the Bible as in v.21. The commandment is this passage is an inspired application of Old Testament principles seen in Genesis 3:16 and elsewhere.
Women have many roles in Ministry. However, I do not believe that a Woman should be the Head Pastor of a Church. Whenever you find a "Woman" the head Pastor of a Church, or in a "Male dominated" leadership role of the Church....you will find problems in the marriage. Remember, it was Eve that was deceived, not Adam! By design, Women are made differently from the Male. God relieved the female from this responsibility of leadership in the Church. She is the "Nurturer." You cannot be both. So, I cannot agree with this teaching.
King Kern..........prove your statements. Prove that women in church leadership roles have problems at home in their marriages. Prove it. And then explain the problems with the men leaders who have issues at home with their marriages. By your argument, these male leaders should have perfect marriages since they are the leaders and their wives are not. And while you are at it, explain the great number of male leaders who are cheating and philandering on their holy wives. A lot of them with the very sisters in their churches.
What about where the bible says that there is no gender race tribe before God!!We are all the same. SO how is it now that women are now lesser beings than men?
King kern I absolutely agree, I'm married to a woman Preacher and we continue to be at odds with each other about her position as a Preacher. She seems to have this dominating attitude about her self that she just doesn't see or she just doesn't want to see it. I don't think I'm going to be able to put up with it much longer...
Cowboys................give us a detailed example of her dominating attitude, other than the fact that she believes God has called her to minister his gospel to the lost and equip the body of Christ to draw others to Jesus. What does she do that causes you to feel that she is taking a domineering attitude with you?
Thank you for this validation Andrew. I have been considering going to a new church with a female pastor and needed confirmation. This is the first time I'm seeing your TH-cam channel but there are no coincidences!!! I am now a regular subscriber.
@Jeffrey, I believe the Bible is very clear, based on the verses quoted in the video that women are not supposed to be in government (because then they are over men) I personally would not go to a church with women pastors and I do not agree with what was said in this video. I used to follow Pastor Andrew a few years ago to the point where I almost went to Charis Bible College but then I realize he has some false doctrines which obviously are being passed on to the newly minted pastors and onto the flock and onto hellfire. Please consult Jesus for yourself. Read the Bible asking the Lord to show you the way.
@@s.m.3423 you can’t just read the English bible and take it at face value without digging deeper and understanding CONTEXT. Remember these are Epistles and Letters. Some are responses to letters that we don’t even have copies of so for example...how do we know that a list of possible pastors had not already been identified, all male, and so when asked how to select from that group the answer was “the husbsnd of one wife.” So instead of looking at all the women that worked in ministry at that time and considering the capacity in which they FUNCTIONED we write them off as nothing but a servant to the men? This is how we confine and oppress others in the church, especially women and it’s disgraceful.
1st Corinthians 14 34 -35 if a woman is preaching in the church and call herself a pastor do like the movie get out God say it is a shame for a woman to speak that follows under sin you are being misled obey God's law
1 Tim 2:12 says 2 things. 1. Suffer not a woman to teach. 2. Nor (or neither) to usurp authority. So there is here 2 things a woman should not be doing. It's not only not usurp. But also not teach. Can you please show me where in 1 Cor 7 it's says "as also sayest the law"??? Can't find it. Thank you!!
Thank you for your question, Michael. We are happy to assist you. Andrew is referring to 1 Corinthians 7:39: "The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth..." Andrew is making the point that under the law, wives were to be in subjection to their husbands. Andrew points out that a wife's subjection to her husband was included in the law as well as the ability for women to be in authority, including Deborah, Huldah and Miriam who were prophetess. Thus, the law instructed women to submit to their husbands; however, did not limit women not to teach or have authority as we see in the examples given. Thank you so much for seeking more understanding on this topic. We respect your opinion, and we hope that you have a blessed rest of your week! - AWMI Team
This is not scripturally backed up - There is a word that is a hapax legomenon which only appears one time. We didn't use the original koine greek to translate this word because we didn't know what it meant - we used another translation of the Bible. We have known for a while what the word actually means because we have found texts that speak to how it was used in that Day. Paul also never used that specific word when referring to Church authority - it's a word that only appears 1 time in the entire Bible. This is the proof. juniaproject.com/defusing-1-timothy-212-bomb/ juniaproject.com/translation-1-timothy-212/ www.cbeinternational.org/sites/default/files/First_Davis.pdf margmowczko.com/isaiah-3_12-women-leaders/ juniaproject.com/defusing-1-timothy-212-authority-authentein/
The logic still won't make sense. So @ home the woman is to be subjected to learn in silence @ home but in the church it is lawful to be her husband's pastor.
The Greek should have been taught here. In Greek the wording is a pugnacious militant task master type instruction not the kind of instruction that promotes healing or growth.
Women are allowed to pastor, teach, preach, and reach!!! God bless women who answer the call when men choose not to. God will use ANYONE TO GET HIS MESSAGE ACROSS!!!!!!!!!!!!
When men choose NOT TO? Who are you, a judge, only a woman would say such a thing and such statements are what tend to disqualifies them as TEACHERS. God made the man before HE did the woman, You sound like God made the woman as a substitute for the errant man. So, so mean of a statement.
I Have twisted nothing! That is the written word of God! You are denying the very word of God because it does not suit your argument! I do not deny that Adam was first, and then Eve. I do not argue that women should submit to their own husband. That I know. But that does not change the fact that in heaven, it will not matter if we are women or men. We will all be praising God. Both man and woman will inherit the kingdom of God. But there is always those who hate and belittle the creation of God forgetting that Adam also ate the forbidden fruit. And it was because he sinned that mankind was kicked out of the Garden of Eden.
Can women be a pastor? 1. “Women who claim to love God should do helpful things for others, and they should learn by being quiet and paying attention. They should be silent and not be allowed to teach or to tell men what to do.” 1 Timothy 2:10-12 2. “Now I want you to know that Christ is the head of all men, and a man is the head of a woman. But God is the head of Christ.” 1 Corinthians 11:3 3. “Men were created to be like God and to bring honor to God. This means a man should not wear anything on his head. Women were created to bring honor to men. It was the woman who was made from a man, and not the man who was made from a woman. He wasn't created for her. She was created for him.” 1 Corinthians 11:7-9 4. “God wants everything to be done peacefully and in order. When God's people meet in church, the women must not be allowed to speak. They must keep quiet and listen, as the Law of Moses teaches. If there is something they want to know, they can ask their husbands when they get home. It is disgraceful for women to speak in church.” 1 Corinthians 14:33-35
Absolutely, Connie! God loves all of His children passionately no matter what mistakes they have made. Sin is no longer a barrier between us and the Lord and He will use anyone with a willing heart. If you'd like to hear more on this topic, we encourage you to build up your spirit with Andrew's "Righteousness Series," for free here: www.awmi.net/audio/audio-teachings/#/awm_e01_righteousness.mp3. If you have any other questions, please don't hesitate to let us know. We want to be a blessing to you!
Can I ask you a question? What is a prophet? It is one who speaks on behalf of God is it not? So if there are several women who operated as prophetesses who spoke on behalf of God then please explained to me by whom's authority does every other office in the five fold ministry speak? Do you believe that God can rebuke a mad prophet through a donkey, but he can't declare his perfect will through the mouth of a woman? So you mean to tell me that an animal is worth more than the creature who was created in God's image? Do we now pick and choose what scriptures we follow and what ones we reject? Pray for revelation folks. I agree that a man should operate in the role as head and leader, but I will not fix my mouth in pride to say that God can not and will not use whom he desires. If men would not have abused their positions in the first place, then the spirit of feminism would not have gained a foothold in our society. Many men have used the bible to put their foot on the necks of those who they were entrusted to provide for and protect. God didn't put men over women so that you could raise your heads in pride because of your gender, he put man as head as a reflection of Christ and the Church. Regardless of gender I wouldn't want to be a pastor over this wicked generation, bickering amongst themselves of "matters of men" instead of focusing on the work of the Kingdom. Shame on us. The same men that sneer at women preachers, are the same men that will take on careers where they are gone a majority of the time in the name of wealth and pride, bigger boats, fancier trucks and cars, last by certainty not least, the American dream chase, only to leave the woman alone and force her to take a position of head over the house hold. Which one is it going to be brothers? Are you going to steady demand you be given honor and respect or are you going to get your character in order and be found worthy of such an honor. Believe me when I say God would not look down on a woman who refused to bow down to a wicked and sinful man. That is why Abigail is referred to in the bible as a woman of understanding. She had to save her foolish husband's house hold from the wrath of a more worthy and honorable man. You can't have it both ways. God is God no matter what our opinions are and HE will use whomever has submitted themselves to his Lordship. Whether Black, white, green, purple, male, or female.
Prophet is when God speaks thew that person,unto his people.moses was a prophet.better known as a messages from God.lead my people out of the wilderness,listen to my prophet.he will give word,from the God..to avoid the pit falls.i come before the as a prophet..minister to.speak...to give a word from the Lord..it just different operations of the fruit of the spirit.but by God..such as I spoken word from the Lord that your strength, understanding, courage will come in due times...
Man is the head on woman, Christ is the head of man, and God is the head of Christ. Preaching and prophesying are two different things yet of the same principle, while pastoring and being the head of a local assembly is totally different. Show me one woman Apostle in the Bible or show me one woman Apostle in the apostolic fathers writings show me one woman king in Israel or one woman bishop or Elder in the Greek text anywhere and I'll take down my stands that women can't pastor. Women are permitted to prophesy evangelize and teach in the Church of Jesus Christ, but not be in head ship.
again no woman is to speak in the CHURCH PERIOD he made it so clear that if a woman have questions asked her HUSBAND at home it is a SHAME for a woman to speak in the CHURCH all the woman whom prophesied look them up they were NOT IN THE CHURCH BUT OUTSIDE THE CHURCH IF ONE IS IN THE CHURCH SPEAKING AND A WOMAN SHE IS GOING TO HELL PERIOD
Abigail had understanding but u DON'T APPARENTLY SHE WASN'T IN A CHURCH SPEAKING PERIOD LOOK UP THE STORY URSELF OUTSIDE THE CHURCH YEA BUT ONLY MAN IN THE CHURCH PERIOD
What about the male pronouns outlined in the qualifications for eldership in 1 Tim 3:1-7, Titus 1:5-9, 1 Peter 5:1-4? Paul is clearly teaching the office of elder/pastor is reserved for men. In addition, no woman authored scripture, no major prophets were women, etc. They play a role in church but they are to be receivers of instruction and are not to exercise authority over men. With respect, your exegesis is askew...
The question is "Can a woman become a pastor?", and of course the answer is yes. If you ask the question, "Can a woman become a real pastor?", the answer is obviously no. This is simply not the order, and has zero to do with what God chooses to do. You're reading way too far into this question. Only the deceiver would call a woman to become a pastor.
Brother Andrew might have missed it in this area, but come on guys, let's try to walk in love here. The Bible says to speak the truth in love, and to pray for one another. Instead, some of you guys are ready to write this brother off as a hell bound false teacher. That's one of the biggest problems with the body of Christ today; we're too thirsty to call people out as a false teacher and ship em off to hell. I know unbelievers that are more merciful than that. When Peter was playing the racist against the gentiles, God didn't give up on him. He showed him a vision and then sent him to preach unto gentiles. And even after that he backslid into his own prejudices at which Paul rebuked him. Never once did God or Paul write him off as a false teacher who's going to hell. They loved him, and directed him back to truth. Why can't we do the same here? All throughout the Bible we are taught to love each other, so how is it that there is so much hatred in this comment section. What God are you guys serving?
What YOU, Sir, think, is irrelevant! How YOU, Sir, interpret God's word is irrelevant! What the Word SAYS is what it says. Why twist it to fit your belief system? According to the Bible, NO! According to man's rules, YES! What's more important? Man's rule or God's? (1 Timothy 2:11-12) "Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. {12} But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence." You, sir, are twisting God's word. It's talking about men in general. "...usurp authority over the man.....". ANY MAN! Her Bubby! Her Pastor! Which ever man is in her life! If a woman is married to a preacher, and SHE is up there preaching, SHE IS WRONG, and must submit to her husband's authority! HE should be preaching! NOT HER! She is clearly out of sink with God's Holy Word! This is why I don't adhere to those other so called BIBLES, because MOST ALL of them have been written by so called Scholars, who have changed the meanings of the verses to fit their own belief system, or to say what they want it to say. it is isn't in the KJB, it isn't God's Holy Word! The King James Bible was around way before these supposed scholars came around to translate it into English. That's why there are so many different churches with their own brand of Christianity, like the Catholics, and the Mormons, but are they truly Christian? NO! There is only ONE way to God, and that's through Jesus Christ, not through Joseph Smith, or any other Mortal, but through JESUS Christ! There is also no salvation outside of the name of Jesus, and there is no remission of sins outside of the name of Jesus. So when someone is baptized, if the baptizer doesn't say that he is baptizing in the name of Jesus, he is not obeying God's word.
sir hood exactly, I will give you back your own advice. It doesn’t matter what you think it says either. I think Andrew Wommack is spot on with his interpretation of the scriptures.
@@wiznup How you or Mr. Wommack interpret the Bible is one thing. What is SAYS is another. And it says this: 1 Timothy 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. There are many other verses in the Bible that would confirm this, but this one is straight to the point. And you cannot use the excuse that it is OLD GOSPEL, because it is in the New Testament, which means it isn't OLD LAW! On the same train of thought is this verse: 1 Corinthians 11:14 Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him? This verse says straight forward that it's a shame for a man to have long hair. You can interpret it any way you want, but the fact remains that it says that it's a shame for a man to have long hair. PERIOD! Ones interpretation of these scriptures is meaningless. What it SAYS isn't!
sir hood please don’t tell the women in the underground church in China that they must be silent. You do not understand the context of the scriptures you are quoting. th-cam.com/video/iwf7rmA1y9M/w-d-xo.html
When I was a little boy and I went to church I remember every church had a King James Bible and Hymn book. Back then there was a FEAR.of God. A real fear, not just a reverence. Nearly everyone went to church somewhere..( I’m not saying everyone was saved or going to a Biblical based church) You get my drift. Most everything was shut down on Sundays. It was the Lords day, and EVERYONE knew it. Churches got together and had fellowship and were like minded. Over my lifetime I have watched the world infiltrate the church and Satan is laughing up his sleeve. This topic was never an issue when I was a little boy. Everyone knew the role of a man and a woman and it was not in question. In today’s society men want to be women, and women want to be men. Very twisted and completely contrary to the word of God. I would have to strongly disagree with his interpretation on this portion of Scripture. Praise God
Thank you. Amen and amen! There's an old saying that says " if it's new it's probably not true " since the Pentecostal church was founded around 1900 we've had these kinds of teachings slowly making their way into the church and breaking the church down. It began with allowing women to Pastor churches. For almost 2,000 years everybody knew that God can use women in miraculous ways just not as the pulpit authority. This passage of scripture is not talking about husband and wives, it's talking about men and women in general. This guy is literally not interpreting the scripture correctly. I came here just to see what a charismatic would say about the subject. I'm not surprised. May God be glorified in the lives of those who trust in Jesus and prayerful read and study his precious word
@@poppyozark it is talking about marriage that is why paul referred to adam and eve. Romans 16:1-2 paul greets phoebe as a fellow worker in christ. God said himself in the last days sons and daudghters will prophecy. Marriage is a different thing and there are roles in marriage.
@@conceptualclarity Timothy is saying the same thing paul is saying in 1corinthians4:34. Which is about orderly worship in church. If you begin in verse 8, he tells the men on how to worship in church. Then verse 9 he tells the women on how to dress in church. Then verse 11 he repeats what paul said, that women when in church should learn quietly and behave and shouldn't usurp authority over a man (not men). Meaning her husband while she is in church. Thats why he referred to adam and eve. The moment eve took charge over her husband and became leader in the relationship, she got deceived because when you switch roles in a marriage, the devil can easily defeat you. Timothy is telling women that even when in church and worshipping, marriage principles don't stop between a couple. He is not talking about positions of ministering the word of God to a congregation.
@@shio_sakaki_the_legend392 "He is not talking about positions of ministering the word of God to a congregation" He speaks of women not teaching. This is clearly about the church, not a couple. Yes, the passages outline orderly worship in the church, and part of that is women accepting greater limitations in accordance with Biblical order. The limitations are about the church context, not the marriage context. The reference to remaining quiet is obviously not intended to guide the interaction of the couple at home.
It is clear the Bible has no authority over Andrew Wommack. 1 Cor. 14:34-36 makes it clear that it is a shame for women to speak in the church. Let that word sink in...speak...speak...speak. Paul even says that if they will learn anything they should ask their husbands at home.
That scripture didn't say "thee man" as you said, it reads "a man" or any man. It also says the woman "must be quiet", in other words, she should sit down, listen and try to learn - from "a man". If the scripture was talking ONLY about her man, Paul would have said " I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over her husband. In rare instances God allowed certain women to lead because of the problems that were occurring at certain times with His people, those times were the exception, not the rule, in fact, scripture makes it clear that when women lead, there is a problem (Isaiah 3:12). Also, women in places like Africa have just as much freedom as anywhere else, in fact the country of Rwanda have more women in government then any country in the world. Also when you say Africa, try to be more specific, there are 54 countries in Africa.
Andrew is right, so you are wrong. Throughout the Bible in the new testament, anér: a man, is being used in the context 'the man' as opposed to 'any man'.
We are so clearly in the last days when the devil can get so called believers asking 'did God really say?' About CLEAR instructions on how to run the church. Even a non believer who understands the english language couldn't miss what Paul meant.
@David Celis I am a woman. You should read the whole Bible. See things from God's perspective, since He created us, not the other way around. God Bless.
And the first people the risen Jesus told to go and tell everybody were women. Also, in Isreal and many other nations, women were not allowed to get an education. Thus, would you wan't people who can neither read nor write teaching the word of God? Isreal started allowing the education of women around 14th century AD.
Let your women keep silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak; but they are to be submissive, as the law also says. And if they want to learn something, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is shameful for women to speak in church. 1Corin14:34-35
You need to check a better translation Andrew and read more commentaries. A minister is to be a husband of one wife. A woman can't be a husband of one wife.
Andrew Wommack... You've almost got it right. However, 1 Cor 14:34-35 is not a quotation from the Old Testament at all. instead, it's a quotation from "them of old time"... the original Rabbis of the Pharisee sect. Their sayings were passed down orally in the first century, and were binding on all Pharisees. The oral tradition was put into writing in the 2nd century... today we know it as the first part of what the Jews call the "Mishnah." And in the Mishnah, we have the exactly wording of "the law" quoted by Paul in 1 Cor 14. So what's going on here? Is Paul referring to the Pharisaical law, to try to make a point? NO. What is going on, is that 1 Corinthians was written as an answer to the church's previous letter to Paul, which we no longer have. That lost letter was full of questions. 1 Corinthians quotes from that lost letter, and answers the quotes. 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 are not instructions from Paul. Those verses are questions from the church to Paul, which Paul is quoting from that letter. And Paul is answering the question! Look at the context, and especially at the verse immediately following the quote. Paul is talking about the gifts of the spirit, and how they are to operate in the church. He has just finished saying that you ALL may prophesy, so that ALL may learn and ALL may be encouraged. Every one of those 3 "ALL"'s must be interpreted the same way. That's a basic rule of Bible interpretation. Therefore, "all" who are to be learning and encouraged, are the "all" who are to allowed to prophesy. Are women excluded from learning? From encouragement? Of course not! Then they must also be allowed to prophesy! Now, look at the verse immediately following the quote in question. "WHAT?" (This is a Greek word that ALWAYS means ONLY opposition to an idea just spoken. It's a disjunctive conjunction: linking too opposing ideas. Therefore, what comes after the "what?" is directly opposed to what came before the "what?". And Paul says , "What? did the word of God come out from you? Or came it unto you only?" Now, evidently, somebody was trying to shut somebody else up. Forbidding them to prophesy. Verses 34-35 says some men were trying to make all the women shut up. And Paul's answer is very clear: NO WAY. Did the Word-made-flesh come out of a man? No. He came out of a woman. Did the Word spoken by God come only to males? No. Salvation is for both male and female. God has always used women, down through the centuries, in both old and new testaments, as much as males would allow Him to. (They limited the Holy One of Israel.) We have Scripture that was inspired through women, in both old and new testaments! You see, the Pharisees had such a low view of women they came up with a different Temple layout, from how God instructed Moses. God never forbade women from coming alongside men, into the Temple. God even used women as singers and worship leaders in Temple worship. God did lay the heavy work of temple sacrifice, on the men, because men are physically stronger, and it's very hard work, to be offering sacrifices one after another, all day long! But God never called for a "women's court" as existed in Jesus' day. That was all the work of the Pharisees, trying to shut women out and shut them down. Judaizers were always following Paul around, trying to pollute the early church with legalism. Pharisaism. How horrible that Paul's quote from the Mishnah is enforced by men in the church, while Paul's answer to that quote is ignored altogether.
Even if this flimsy argument is right, it does nothing to the overwhelming testimony of scripture that leadership is for men. How many women apostles did Jesus appoint?
@@555pontifex The church has been in denial for millennia of the evidence in Scripture concerning women in church leadership. No, Jesus didn't appoint women to the 12, and we don't know why. The reasons could have been cultural. Actually, this cultural pressure against certain male preachers happened in the United States 100 years ago. In the early Pentecostal movement, blacks and whites sat together and preached from the same pulpits .. but the blacks were threatened with lynching (by local baptists) if they didn't leave the white Pentecostal church. The early Pentecostal church was fully integrated. But cultural pressure forced it into a model less than what God wanted, due to safety concerns. Mary sat at Jesus' feet, as he taught his 12 disciples. In that culture, women did not mingle with men. Especially did a woman not sit at the feet of a Rabbi! That place was always reserved for a rabbi's star pupil, whom he had chosen to succeed him, as rabbi. Martha is scandalized, because she reflects cultural norms. Women belonged in the kitchen, serving the men. As the MEN sat separately, discussing the Scriptures. But Jesus reproves Martha. Mary was free to sit as an equal among the 12, and even to occupy the seat of one chosen for future leadership! There are quite a few women church leaders in the New Testaments, besides the women leaders in the Old, such as Deborah, Huldah, Miriam, etc. But of course, the Catholic church worked very hard to train Christian thought in a way Christ never intended... in many ways. Catholics operate out of a "top-down" authoritarian approach. Jesus called this "worldly" and antithetical to true Christianity, in Matthew 20:25-28. The whole male grasp for power and domination over women, is rooted in pride. It didn't happen until after the fall. That's why God warned Eve "He shall rule over thee." Just like every "curse" spoken to Adam was nothing but a warning of bad consequences of sin (and Adam was free to counter every one!) Even so, every "curse" spoken to Eve was nothing but a warning of bad consequences of sin. Adam wanted to rule over her, because he had partaken of Lucifer's pride, wanting to exalt his own throne, also. Prior to the fall, Adam and Eve were equally given dominion over Creation. Genesis 1:27-28 Adam was never given dominion over Eve. He usurped that.
@@pollyjetix2027 thank you so much. Can you be my teacher. And share with me more. Its like fresh water hearing your explanation. God give you more by his Holy Spirit. And not that holy they call holy. God bless you
Older women likewise are to be reverent in behavior, not slanderers or slaves to much wine. They are to teach what is good, and so train the young women to love their husbands and children, to be self-controlled, pure, working at home, kind, and submissive to their own husbands, that the word of God may not be reviled.
Why are there a woman mayor, a female manager, a female judge, female doctor, scientist? The bible also forbids women in male positions of jobs as they are called to serve their husband, breed as many children and remain in the kitchen.
@@patricksaxon3983 Where does the Bible say that a woman must remain pregnant and in the kitchen? NO WHERE, unless you are a Mormon, who believe that lie! As for the rolls of Mayor, etc, those are rolls that belong to the man, but MAN has made it so women can have thus said rule! So be it as it may, However, God's rule is plain. Women are NOT to take a position that a MAN must take. This is what the Bible says. Man has always tried to twist what the Bible says to fit their own belief system. Why do you think there are so many translations out there? There is only ONE translation that I care to read and study, and that's the King James Bible! There is nothing better! If it didn't come from the King James Bible, it isn't gospel! PERIOD!
People are so offended. Why did they all click this clip? Thank you Andrew Wommack for not shying away. But, the Western Church is just as discriminatory as African and other Churches.
You're welcome, Adidas! Andrew just shares from the Word. We appreciate your support of women in ministry. God has great plans for all women! Blessings on the rest of your week! - AWMI Team
This is THE most helpful exposition of what these confusing and flammable verses mean. This is why I already encourage people studying scripture to look into the original text, language and cultural context because that all plays a huge role in our understanding what was the heart of what's being said! Thank you for so thoroughly explaining all angles of this Mr. Wommack. Your ministry is a huge blessing.
It seemed Sarah had authority over her husband Abraham. Several times the Bible records that she tells Abraham to do something and he does it. When Sarah tells him to send away Ishmael and his mother Hagar, Abraham is troubled by that order. But God tells him to listen to his wife and do it.
Andrew Wommack is absolutely correct when it comes to the *healing* scriptures. But on this topic, as one of my friends once said, "I don't mind if a woman is an elder as long as she is the husband of one wife." (or Pastor, deacon, bishop) He was being funny, but his point was the scriptures teach about *male leadership* in the church. How Andrew Wommack was raised that women can be Sunday school teachers until boys start to become men is what I agree with. Boys and young men need other men as someone to look up to, to be mentors and leaders. Women can still show leadership with other women and as mentors to younger women. Wow! Is that ever needed NOW in today's society. Where are the older women teaching the younger women? This is taught in the Bible but I do not see this done nor taught in the church today.
Hmm. So I cannot instruct my son pass nine years old? When dad is not there I have to tell him to wait till his father gets home? Come on now. Things have to make sense.
For me there are two key points to bear in mind: 1) If you try to argue that women can be pastors, you would have to explain why the Christian Church (under the guidance of the Holy Spirit) got it wrong for nearly 2,000 years. 2) If you look at what is happening to the Church since certain denominations started ordaining women a few decades ago, you can see that the direction the Church is taking is not a Godly direction. We are seeing gay marriages blessed, we are seeing Churches saying that there is more than one way to heaven, that you don't even necessarily have to believe in God. So what is more likely. That Christians got this issue wrong for 2,000 years, and we have now finally corrected the error and the Church is becoming more Godly. Or... That Christians got the issue of women pastors CORRECT for 2,000 years, and now we are starting to fall away from Biblical standards and many Churches are now starting to snowball into further and further error? He who has ears (and eyes) let him hear (and see)...
What part of Christ is the head of the church do people not understand? women are not to have authority over or teach a man. This means that they cannot hold leadership roles in the church that are specifically ordained for men according to the word of God. Anything other than that is rebellion against God's word. That isn't to say that they can't teach the younger women.
◄ 1 Timothy 3 ► King James Bible Qualifications for Overseers 1 This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work. 2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; 3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous; 4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; 5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?) 6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil. 7 Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil. I wonder why we try soo hard to twist the Word of God to fit our own agendas. Since when did he must be of one wife became she must be of one husband? Woman can be and do anything but not to have AUTHORITY over a man as it was and has been from the beginning of creation. Our families and the world will function better if we get to know our duties Especially in the house of the day Lord.
Given Andrew was once Baptist, hearing him speak so boldly like this is only a testament to the power of God's word in renewing the mind. Thank you Andrew. If God calls me into a pastoral office, I'm answering that call whether people are appalled or not.
Actually sure. It says a man. It says a woman and a man. It’s not saying what you’re making it to be sir. It sounds to me like you’re doing what is said in 2 Peter 3:16
I will not miss heaven because of aa man limiting my gift which was given by GOD.i will continue preaching Jesus and if a man can't take up his responsibility of leading and florishing in the work of God.i will penetrate through that limitation because what am doing is fufiling my asignment.
I'm a very talkative person and by the grace of God, I am spiritually inclined to the word of god... I think it is emotionally and spiritually better for a woman like me to be single missionaries than be involved with a church, much of this argument will cease, if you feel like "silence" is against what you feel like God has gifted you with in terms of the urging within you to teach others, either opt for a woman's only congregation or sell yourself to the Lord and take a decision not to marry and go for fulltime missionary work... both of these are according to the will of God and doesn't contradict the word of God and i have learned through experiencr that it will provide you with no room to feel offended in any way of any men in the church... many women find more solace in women only atmospheres where everyone is equally seen and treated within the boundaries of the bible and aren't emotionally scarred by men out of the will of God, there is very little room for unwanted discrimination and there is much more focus toward God and his individualistic plan for each woman in relation to the kingdom... Paul says it is better for women not to marry and so to focus all she is to the Lord and not anyone else in this world, there is reason for that, she won't have room in her life to worry about her traditional role in worldly terms as a woman, and only room for her role as a disciple of God in the kingdom of Heaven, completely sold out for God's purpose... that's a much more satisfying, self dying way of living, giving no room for bitterness or resentment toward the opposite gender and how they live their lives... if every Christian were single and completely sold out to the Lord, the kingdom would have seen a drastically rapid expansion that's for sure the only downside is procreation though... so in the end, to each to his own, even though staying single is the most effective way you can completely act out your individualistic plan in the kingdom and serving all his people...
Asku J........You can be involved in a church. There are actually churches out there who do support and acknowledge the call and anointing of God on the lives of women. Some of them are lead by men and some of them are lead by women. I have sat in a number of churches who had males as pastors who supported the call of God on the lives of the women in their congregations. The trained, licensed, and ordained these women and treated them simply as ministers just like the sons of God in their congregations. Don't argue with anyone, just gracefully and graciously do what God has called you to do, going where he opens the door for you to do it at.
Don't let another person's belief affect your calling. You can get married and become a missionary together with your husband. There are churches out there that believe in the ministry of women (Titus 2:3-5) (Acts 18:1-3,24-27). There are many judges but few laborers. God will really appreciate if you help in bringing in the harvest of souls (Matthew 9:37-38).
I do not have any problem with women cutting their hair, or not wearing a hat in church, or being a pastor and teaching in church. A lot of what Paul has said needs to be carefully and honestly assessed with common sense.
That is a great question, Kontrel! While Andrew does not have any notes explaining the seven pillars of wisdom, we can share the scripture where this is found in the Bible along with Andrew's commentary on that scripture. Proverbs 9:1 (KJV) 1 Wisdom hath builded her house, she hath hewn out her seven pillars: Note on Prov. 9:1: "Wisdom has a dwelling place. She isn’t hiding. Anyone who is looking for her should be able to find her easily. Wisdom dwells in the Word of God. God’s Word is His wisdom (Luke 11:49). Proverbs 7 tells of the adulterous woman who lured the foolish young man into her trap. Here, in contrast, wisdom is calling to all who will come to attend a feast she is making (Proverbs 9:3-5)." We hope that you have been blessed by reading Andrew's commentary. Have a fantastic week! - AWMI Team
@@AndrewWommackMin thanks for replying the answers are in Proverbs 1:1-4 though they are not given in there correct order 1. Knowledge - written information from the Bible about The Heavenly Father's knowledge. 2 Understanding - comprehending this written information. 3 Discretion- being able to discern between Good and Evil, righteousness and bad. 4 Equity- dealing equally with people, when concerning the scriptures, regardless if they are isrslites or gentiles.5 Justice- being just at all times, until the end, not just when we want to. 6 Judgement-looking for the opportunity during the course of our day, everyday to apply the six previous pillars of wisdom until the end. 7 Wisdom- once we execute the previous pillars of wisdom we become wisemen, then we can operate out of the Holy Spirit to bring forth virtue aka spiritual currency. These are the points of virtue, the Holy Bible speaks of, thank you for your time. Next question, what is the law of sin according the Bible?
Thank you for sharing, Kontrel. We'd love to help answer your question. As a ministry, we are only able to provide you with Andrew's perspective. To help you do this, we have included a scripture as well as Andrew's commentary notes below: Romans 8:2 (KJV) 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. "According to Romans 6:23, death is the wages of sin (see note 3 at Romans 6:23). Therefore, this phrase, “the law of sin and death,” is referring to the influence of sin and the resulting wages of that sin. Another way of saying “the law of sin and death” is “the law that when we sin, we receive death instead of life” or “when we sin, we reap the curse instead of the blessing.'" - Andrew Wommack's Living Commentary Kontrel, we hope that you have enjoyed reading Andrew's notes. If you'd like to find more, you can visit his free Online Bible Commentary here: l.awmi.net/LivingCommentary . Blessings! - AWMI Team
@@AndrewWommackMin This the law of sin according to the Bible, meaning how it operates. Genesis 4:7 " If thou doest well, ( meaning give firstling, acceptable sacrifice) shalt thou not be accepted? And if thou doest not well ( meaning give just any fruit, not first fruit, unacceptable sacrifice)sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire,and thou( meaning the spirit of sin) shalt rule over him." This is the law of sin according, The Most High, chose a certain group of people (Deuteronomy 7:6) to bring forth this understanding, so question, who are these people today? Thank you for your time, All Glory to our Heavenly Father in the name of the Messiah.
Hi, Kontrel! We'd like to thank you for sharing more of your thoughts with us. Also, we want you to know that we are more than happy to further assist you by providing you with Andrew's commentary notes. For best assistance, we ask that you please email us your additional questions to questions@awmi.net. This way, we will be able to provide you with a more thorough response. Thank you, and we look forward to hearing from you in the future. God bless! - AWMI Team
Why does it say that a Pastor should be the “husband” of one wife. Same with a deacon. It’s very clear.
Exactly
Not really clear actually. The same "qualification" is said of deacons and yet Phoebe was called a deacon. The words have very general meanings in the Greek as to a role. Because of this seeming inconsistency we should study this more rather than just citing one verse.
POLYGAMY. The CULTURE. CONTEXT: Paul speaking to "Timothy".
A woman should not be a speaker in a church meeting. Let people believe the words of our Lord Jesus. Don't try to justify what you want. God is not the author of confusion.
@@josephkirimi5453 God isn't the author of confusion so why keep trying to confuse christians by taking verses out of context and making the bible seem like it contradicts itself. Take your own advice.
1 Corinthians 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
Corinthians 14:34-36 (KJV)
34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
36 What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?
1 Corinthians 14:34
Life For Today Study Bible Notes
Note 22 at 1 Corinthians 14:34: Most commentators believe this is a reference to Genesis 3:16, which states, “Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.”
1 Corinthians 14:35
Life For Today Study Bible Notes
Note 23 at 1 Corinthians 14:35: The command for the women to be under obedience (1 Corinthians 14:34) implies that the object of their obedience is to be their husbands (this verse). It might be better stated by saying, “The women must be submissive to their own husbands.”
1 Corinthians 14:36
Life For Today Study Bible Notes
Note 24 at 1 Corinthians 14:36: It is possible that this passage may be saying the very opposite of what it seems to be saying. For example, Paul had already stated in 1 Corinthians 11:5 that women pray and prophesy in the church, so he was not forbidding women from speaking in the church altogether. Some think that Paul was addressing a particular problem of someone being disruptive by noisy discussions in the church. This may possibly be true, but by looking at the context, you can see that Paul was asking a question. This question could be paraphrased something like this: “Women are not to speak in the church. What? Hey guys, do you think that the Word of God originates only with you? Does it come forth only from you?”
@Andrew Wommack "when did the law ever give any command that a woman couldn't teach?" Here is an example 1 Corinthians 14:34Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience AS ALSO SAITH THE LAW.
Corinthians 14:34-36 (KJV)
34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
36 What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?
1 Corinthians 14:34
Life For Today Study Bible Notes
Note 22 at 1 Corinthians 14:34: Most commentators believe this is a reference to Genesis 3:16, which states, “Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.”
1 Corinthians 14:35
Life For Today Study Bible Notes
Note 23 at 1 Corinthians 14:35: The command for the women to be under obedience (1 Corinthians 14:34) implies that the object of their obedience is to be their husbands (this verse). It might be better stated by saying, “The women must be submissive to their own husbands.”
1 Corinthians 14:36
Life For Today Study Bible Notes
Note 24 at 1 Corinthians 14:36: It is possible that this passage may be saying the very opposite of what it seems to be saying. For example, Paul had already stated in 1 Corinthians 11:5 that women pray and prophesy in the church, so he was not forbidding women from speaking in the church altogether. Some think that Paul was addressing a particular problem of someone being disruptive by noisy discussions in the church. This may possibly be true, but by looking at the context, you can see that Paul was asking a question. This question could be paraphrased something like this: “Women are not to speak in the church. What? Hey guys, do you think that the Word of God originates only with you? Does it come forth only from you?”
My question is how many man that goes to church have bible study time with their family. How many teach their kids or even know the bible. If that is the case than most woman will not really know God.
1 Corinthians 14:28
“But if there be no interpreter, LET HIM KEEP SILENCE in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God.”
Sincere question - What law states that a woman cannot teach, whether it be in the Torrah or in the commandments? Please advise.
@@niialaadjei4668 Thank you for this. I saved it.
2 Timothy 4. 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables
Exactly what is happening here!!! Scripture is crystal clear on this and yet we still harden our hearts to it. 💔
This is the season we're in....falling away from truth...to appease people....
Amen to that!
Saw this and agree with it Genesis 29:9 “While he was still speaking with them, Rachel came with her father’s sheep, for she was a shepherdess.”
Rachel watched over the sheep to make sure they were watered, fed, and safe. This job was usually for men only! God makes exceptions. He does what He wants.
Mary Magdalene was the first female preacher who gave the good news. Luke 24:9. If women had to be silent in the church then why would a all knowing God have these women preach the good news of His resurrection? God is not confused. People are in a state of religion. We must study to show yourself approved by God. Paul was writing a letter to a Pastor of a church that had a previous problem. The woman at the well also preached. John 4:39 Huldah 2kings 22:21-20 she not in instructed men but men sought her out to hear from the Lord. Again, you cannot put God in a box. He will always do what he wants. As long as the person is submitted to God and does His will, he can use anyone. Esther was a Queen and was used in a co-governing roll along side her husband. Deborah also was a prophetess and Judge and the kingdom did not move to war without her Word. She was led by God. Many woman are led by God. And many are not and God will judge them. Just as many men are led by God and many are not and God will judge them also.
prophet Joel saying, “‘In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams. Even on my servants, both men and women, I will pour out my Spirit in those days, and they will prophesy'” (Acts 2:17-18).
A woman must submit to her own husband. And her husband is the head of her. If the husband is a Pastor and allows her to help him and Shepperd the women. That is not anyones choice, but the husband. Also is safer in some instances for a shepperdess to deciple other women instead of the husband having one on one time with other women. Many legalistic Pastors have fallen like this. I encourage everyone to read their Bible in the Spirit and let God lead. No name calling only GRACE AND TRUTH.
@@brandibee7058 lol I know you want it to be true but that's not so. Rachel was at the well for a reason not because God was trying to tell you that woman could be pastors. She was there to meet Jacob so he could become his wife. Mary magdalene didn't not preach the Gospel she was told to tell the disciples he was risen and guess what? they didn't believe her. The bible is clear cut and dry on this issue. The woman at the well just told them to come see a man whole told her all about here life and the people believed Jesus not off of what she said but because they talk to him themselves.
As a woman in seminary college this is appalling. God is CLEAR about this thing. No matter how badly I want to lead a congregation it will never happen because Jesus is my Lord and I follow his instructions!
I could literally be an end-times prophet like Debra BUT NEVER a pastor! He said it and it is “very good” and true.
Well said... May God allow for your praises to be shout the gates of the city for fearing the Lord.. God have mercy on these liars..
Ok but just based on your bad interpretation of those verses.. you can never tell a man what to do or tell him anything or correct one for the rest of your entire life. Lol good luck with that one! 😂😂 Silence woman!
@@DtotheK88
Yeah, so....
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 applause all around for this guy who wins the prize for twisting scripture to mean something so far from the intended meaning that the text is unrecognizable.
Here's your trophy 🏆... take a bow.
Just to clarify..
1 Timothy 2 falls under the heading of “Instructions on Worship.”
This is why studying doctrine is not suggested but commanded by God. Because of guys like this. ☝🏼☝🏼☝🏼
Sarah, may God richly bless you for speaking the truth.
1 Corinthians 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
Amen
Galatians 3:28
@@davidogejahahamefula7980 There is no male or female when it comes to salvation. there is no jew, greek, black or white. Reguardless Jesus went to the Jew first then the gentile. Jesus has a perfect order. Man is the head of the woman in the body of Christ. Just because there is no male or female when it comes to salvation does not mean the women take on men's roles or men take on female roles.1 Corinthians 11:3. There is no male of female in Christ but Christ still demands a perfect order. Man is the head according to scripture.
Corinthians 14:34-36 (KJV)
34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
36 What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?
1 Corinthians 14:34
Life For Today Study Bible Notes
Note 22 at 1 Corinthians 14:34: Most commentators believe this is a reference to Genesis 3:16, which states, “Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.”
1 Corinthians 14:35
Life For Today Study Bible Notes
Note 23 at 1 Corinthians 14:35: The command for the women to be under obedience (1 Corinthians 14:34) implies that the object of their obedience is to be their husbands (this verse). It might be better stated by saying, “The women must be submissive to their own husbands.”
1 Corinthians 14:36
Life For Today Study Bible Notes
Note 24 at 1 Corinthians 14:36: It is possible that this passage may be saying the very opposite of what it seems to be saying. For example, Paul had already stated in 1 Corinthians 11:5 that women pray and prophesy in the church, so he was not forbidding women from speaking in the church altogether. Some think that Paul was addressing a particular problem of someone being disruptive by noisy discussions in the church. This may possibly be true, but by looking at the context, you can see that Paul was asking a question. This question could be paraphrased something like this: “Women are not to speak in the church. What? Hey guys, do you think that the Word of God originates only with you? Does it come forth only from you?”
@@niialaadjei4668 good example of why you should take your doctrine from the Bible and not from study Bible notes
Women of God, whatever God calls you to do, please be obedient to what that call is.
Just keep in mind God will never call us go do something scripture prohibits as God can't contradict himself.
@@vivaeuropa Where does scriptute prohibit God using women. It was Paul's prerogative not God's. God was already using women in the Old Testamet. Otherwise we would never had had a female Judge and Female Prophets.
But not as Pastors
@@pastordavidgorbet4668 Women of God....WHATEVER God calls you to do.....please be obedient to that call.
the bible is full of contradictions
Here's a breakdown of Andrew's unbiblical interpretation:
#1) Andrew claims that the 1 Timothy Passage has the definite article "the". But that's actually not what the Greek says, hence why Andrew is reading from some English translation and not from the greek. In truth, there is no definite article "the", so the correct way of reading it is "I do not permit a woman to teach or have authority over man", then Paul continues explaining how this is a universal principle. Also Andrew says the word mean "usurp" authority, but in reality it does not say usurp but exercise in the greek.
#2) Andrew claims the Law doesn't lay this out when if fact it does ( Genesis 2:18; Genesis 3:16; 1 Peter 3:1)
#3) Andrew equates being a prophetess to that of a leadership position, when there's nowhere in Scripture that says this. He uses Deborah, saying she "went out and lead a war" when in fact she only went to encourage Barak to lead the war.
#4) Andrew says that the phrase "husband of one wife" could really be meant for women too, but that is not the case in Greek grammar structure. In this case, the greek more accurately renders this "a one woman kind of man". This is very specific for men, not a general application for humans.
Here again we see Andrew completely revealing how little he knows on some of these types of things and the reason he really shouldn't be viewed at as a serious source of scholarship or authority on interpreting biblical text.
Brilliant summary - articulate and respectfully corrected!
Wrong just checked the greek and it means husband
The Greek word translated to have authority or usurp authority is only used in this one place in scripture and it means to take by force. Paul is not saying women can't have rightly appointed authority
Genesis 3:16 is punishment eve and every woman under original sin received. A woman is not supposed to be ruled by a man or for her desire to be to her husband. Her original position is to be a helper, which is the same work as the holy spirit. When a woman is saved she isn't under that punishment anymore.
The rest that u said aswell is very wrong
@@BEABEREAN10 it is very common for somebody who wants to undermine what the Bible teaches to claim that all Bible translations of a verse are wrong. That is virtually never the case.
My friends, I believe the Word is crystal clear on the issue of female pastors and even female deacons in church. To say otherwise is to try to please the feminist, left wing mania that is sweeping the world.
There are sooo many verses that are clear about women in the church.
Let us also be gentle with each other concerning all issues. Sometimes I have been right about something, but have been self-righteous and arrogant about it. I must avoid this.
I also want to add that men in leadership never means they're allowed to be toxic or tyrannical. We've seen too many men do this.
May God richly bless you all!
Amen.
Well no, not deaconesses. Women can do that. Just not teach
So, he is not saying a woman can't lead.
@@MarkosHaasSure, they can teach, God has called all of us to be ministers of reconciliation.
Contemporary gatherings don't have the pastor design worked out quite right. Andrew is right. One has to twist the scriptures in order to get the format we have today. Andrew reads it in context with proper biblical interpretation.
Let us pray for wisdom to understand GOD words , it's not what we think , it's his way only
He’s not speaking what he thinks, he is rightly dividing the word of truth. He is teaching from the word of God.
@@gjm2669 If you notice, I said Us and We pray for wisdom to understand the words of GOD
@@constancetaylor2114 My comment is still relevant whether you said I, us, or we.
@@gjm2669 ok, no need for this
@@constancetaylor2114 If there is no need for this, why are you still responding to my comment? I was not rude to you but just stating what I believe and responding to YOUR comment to me.
Why do many people commenting on here think that if a woman teaches anyone that she is suddenly exercising authority over them? This is not the same thing as the office of the Pastor. When a man teaches another man, does it give him authority over that man? Of course not. It is the same when a woman teaches a man (or another woman) and nowhere in the scripture does it say she cannot teach a man. Teaching has nothing to do with having authority over another human being. It is a gift of the Holy Spirit and is meant to equip, to edify and to impart. We need to drop that authoritarian definition of teaching. It is messing up our theology and causing division in the church. In Acts 18, Priscilla and Aquila taught Apollos, a man. Priscilla was a woman and Paul had no issues with her teaching a man so why do we continue to condemn women teachers in the body of Christ? And 1 Timothy 2:11-12 is dealing with a specific situation that Timothy was dealing with at the church in Ephesus. It was not meant to be a directive for all women for all time. How do I know that? Because we know from other scriptures that Phillip had several unmarried daughters that prophesied (this is not a quiet activity). We also know that other women prayed and prophesied when men were present based on 1 Cor 11:5. We also know that women received the baptism of the Holy Spirit on the day of Pentecost right along with the men. What was the purpose of this baptism? To be imbued with power to be Jesus' witnesses in the earth. Therefore, we know that there are multiple examples of women not only being present in the public gatherings but they were exercising their gifts of ministry too. Why are we so threatened by women using their gifts? We seem to forget that the early church was going through a great time of transition. Think about how hard it is for any of us to accept change. Imagine what it was like for them in a culture where women were purposefully kept ignorant and yet Jesus allowed them to sit at His feet and learn.
Prophesying is one thing, and usurping authority in a church setting is another.
wiznup
You said, "nowhere in the scripture does it say she cannot teach a man."
1 Tim. 2:11-12
11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
This exactly what the scripture says.
lets not forget that this comment is in a comment section of a video where a man is saying that it is ok for a woman to be a pastor. Can you answer me if it's ok for a woman to be a pastor?
@@nbidnm Yes, it is okay for a woman to be a Pastor. I am one.
@wiznup you just pointed to yourself to tell if it's ok for a woman to be a pastor. Why don't we point people to the Bible to get biblical doctrine. You think to highly of yourself and have not allowed God to be God and have the say. Sound like I am woman hear me roar. The exact opposite of Peter's description of what a woman should be.
Ok, let me get this straight, the woman can lead a whole church but not her family? So she can lead as long as it's not her family but the church family she can? Andrew, you really missed this one!
That is NOT what he said - listen again.
Yes it is.@@redefinerealitycoach4240
@@redefinerealitycoach4240That is the implication of what he said. Husband is the head of the wife and that order is not subject to change. The op is pointing out how it makes no sense for her to be head of a church but can't be head of her own family
@@The_Word_Is_The_Way If someone is a CEO at a billion dollar company should they then treat their spouse as an employee?
This is a false equivalency. The church and family are setup very different. The role of headship that is given to the men in marriage is not the same things as a pastor. Looks up Ephesians 5:21-22 in the interlinear Bible and you will see what I mean.
@@The_Word_Is_The_Way What if she is single?
Whoever says the old Testament is irrelevant is void of understanding the new testament is books and letters explaining the old Testament
@Barnes, I agree. The reason that the majority of Christians have a very wrong concept of God is by despising the Old Testament, not teaching from it, never read it in its entirety. I knew God by studying the Old Testament and He emphatically says of Himself, "I am God, I change not!" So when I now read the New Testament, I do not misunderstand God's grace. I take into consideration that God is both an intensely loving God and a consuming fire!!! Both sides of God need to be understood in order not to "create a god in our own image" and call it the God of the Bible for then we deceive ourselves per 2 Timothy 4:3-4
The Bible speaks for itself.
Does it?
Hi do you see the words But I suffer not a woman to teach, found written in 1 Timothy 2:12? 1 Timothy 2:12King James Version12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. Amen.
@natturner-xo2rbi do you see the words But I suffer not a woman to teach, found written in 1 Timothy 2:12? 1 Timothy 2:12King James Version12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. Amen.
@natturner-xo2rb 1 Timothy 2:12 shows women are not to teach its not referring to only married women your deceiving yourself.
Yea,of bullshits
What you believe sir, doesn’t matter! Only the truth!
Amen!!
Ah TRUTH. What a slippery and difficult concept. How can you talk truth when looking at religion and matters of faith?
@@lorenelkin9415 I was only stating a fact. Just because someone has an opinion or belief about something doesn’t make it true or untrue. Many people when trying to explain things include, “I believe,“ or “in my opinion.“ If I said I believe that airplanes can’t really fly, would that be true just because of my belief?
@@lowell30dk So let me get this straight. The Bible is full of truths? Again, a slippery concept to pin down. If I said I don't believe Mary conceived as a virgin, what's the truth?
@@lorenelkin9415 what is your truth???
Prophetess is different from being a preacher. Two different things. Last days people!!! Wake up
Malachi 3:6. "I am the Lord, I do not change". God's word is settled in heaven. Yes, and in the last days, false prophets and false teachers will wax worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived.
@@ldebrobander so what did God mean, when he said I will do a "new thing".
@@tiathompson6674 in the context of that scripture verse, tell me what new thing God did?
@@ldebrobander what is stopping God who is limitless from doing any new thing he wants to do without him taking one drop of counsel from beings who see things through a glass darkly. Who knows God better than he knows himself, and who are ANY of us to try to tell THE GREAT I AM, who he can and cannot call.
@@tiathompson6674 because God says in his word, that He is not a man that he should lie nor a son of man that he should repent and change his mind. all scripture is inspired by the Holy Spirit. I'm sure you have read the teachings of the Apostle Paul as far as the authority and structure ordained in the churches Also there is something about women where we are prone to deception. Just go back to the garden of Eden. Even the Bible tells us clearly that Eve was deceived but Adam was not. The problem is women do not want to come under the authority that Christ Himself established in the church. Just like the curse that we received when Adam and Eve fell, it's still in effect and women are still resisting authority, authority that God ordained himself in the body of Christ. When it comes to the body of Christ, every leadership position or positions of authority are specifically listed to be filled by men. It's kind of like the military. Which I was in for almost 12 years. You have officers who are above the enlisted. You have Sergeant who are above privates. There has to be a heirarchy in order to maintain perfect order. function. when women choose to rebell against what is clearly been ordained by Jesus Christ, then a woman is rebelling directly against Christ.
I disagree.. the bible is clear on it
Micaela Rachelle Amen my beautiful sister amen
Micaela Rachelle LoL you think you know better than Andrew? You think God can't use women to bring a lost soul to christ?? You are living under the law.
Duncan Murphy I was brought out of Egypt by a female. I was ministered too by a female. God can use anyone at any time.
@@redheadedfreckles2 Amen my beautiful sister!!
May God bless you richly and watch over and protect you! It's a hard world, especially for young people, because we live in a world without God. And even those who are suppose to represent God have forgotten His word and have lost all fear of God. My life in church was transformed when I re-read Revelation Chps1-3 and realized that my church never taught on that Jesus-just the warm, sugary, lovey dovey jesus that never gets upset at anyone. That's not true! When we live in willful sin He does get upset bc He does love us! The same Jesus Christ that said Jn3:16 is the same Jesus Christ that said Revelation 3:16, and if your christ wouldn't say the latter then you have a false christ. I pray we will continue to endure firm to end knowing that He will keep us as our hearts are steadfast upon Him-God bless you dear "Stayed upon Jehovah, hearts are fully blest. Finding as He promised, perfect peace and rest."
1 Corinthians 14:35-36-37
And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?
If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.
Being politically correct is one thing and biblically correct is another thing. Somehow, if you preach a wrong gospel, you will have to answer the Lord. Ask the Holy Spirit, not Andrew. You will find the right answers. The Lord is a Lord of order, not chaos.
By the way "politically correctness" simply and only means : behave accordingly to laws and social standards (politeness, traditions) !
And we should listen to a man explain this? And why? Man is the 6, the number of the beast. Why? Because he did not obey God. Women have to preach, teach and spread the gospel because man is not faithful to God.
Malvahandi
@@dodgeman4962 shut up you are stupid
@Black To Grace you are dumb shut up
Prophetees and pastors are two different roles
That’s a cute interpretation.
But a butchering of the Greek and also the context of what Paul hammered as truth to the churches
Lol are you mad that women can become pastors?
@L.A. Bible Thumper sure bud 😂😂
He is a false prophet. Look up the qualification of the bishop. A bishop is to be a man of one woman. How is a woman going to be husband of one wife.
Hammered why isn't it all through his teachings then
@@eddiesblacksmithingkjv9185 bishop is a man made title...the five fold ministry is selected by God.
If a woman can give birth to a savior, why cant a woman preach about a savior?
Exactly.
Mejor Toler, Paul is talking before the Bible was written and placed into the hands of women. At the time Paul was only teaching the men and the women needed to remain silent. Once the Bible was in the hands of every man, woman and child, then God has ordered for All to prophesy, preach and bare witness of His coming.
Mejor Toler, This was before the Word of God was written and people were taught to read and write. Once The Word of God was put into a form where people could carry it with them, like a soldier takes the New Testament into war with her or him today where it was not possible at the time. Men have been saved at the Preaching of the Word by Women. Remember, that Jesus comes back for His Bride and that is female in context, just as He told the story of the 5 females who had their lampstands ready. It was not men who had their lampstands ready, but females that He describes. It's sad that women will outnumber men in heaven, because men are so worried about being evil before being pure.
Mejor Toler, You just want to make war with women. You have a hatred of women.
This is true, but not all men follow God, and lead their families. Women must stand in the gap when men fail. Besides, there will be no sexes in heaven. None. Not one.
So let me get this right! A woman may pastor her husband at church, but the man must be her head at home. Got it!!
XD
It makes absolutely no sense...and is contrary to GOD'S word.
No he means, a woman can not teach her husband at home but she can teach him at the church.
I expounded something in the Bible just today to my husband, a man. Why do men hate a woman to tell them anything about God? Does a woman keep silent if the Lord tells her to expound scripture to a lost man, and just let him remain lost? That does not make sense, especially when God does not reside in a building and we, the body, are the church. Conundrums like these are the reason we delve deeper into scripture and try to find out why Paul was saying what he said, what does it mean, and to whom was it meant for.
@ProveAllThings-tg2ip There are those who believe a woman cannot expound anything to a male. Period. Yes, I speak scripture into my husband’s life when a situation comes up. You can call it teaching, you can call it expounding, or maybe even preaching at that moment. He does the same for me. We are both children of God and joint heirs with Christ. If it is needed I will indeed teach/preach the Word of God to a male if it is needed so he can hear the Good News.
Folks don't listen to this the Bible is clear that what it says about women preachers
josh ford Yes. People have tickling ears they heap up teachers for themselves to hear what they wanna hear. These people hate the truth, not worth to fight with them, they're not born of the Father. John 17:17. Blessings
Why are there a woman mayor, a female manager, a female judge, female doctor, scientist? The bible also forbids women in male positions of jobs as they are called to serve their husband, breed as many children and remain in the kitchen.
@@patricksaxon3983 ... What verse did you pull that bunch of drivel from... The book of MakeUpMyOwnVerse 1:1... You obviously know nothing of scripture or God if that's what you believe...
@I Am who I AM The bible calls women to be housewives, serve thei husbands, breed many children, but not be doing a man's job.
@@theburninator5547 When a woman has chosen the high calling of being a wife, her submission to her husband is “as to the Lord” ( Ephesians 5:22 ). When she chooses the high calling of motherhood, “Sons are a heritage from the Lord, children a reward from him” ( Psalm 127:3 ); this, too, is itself an offering to the Lord.
Andrew Wommack, is teaching from his opinion and not Bible. Anyone who says that most of what the Apostle Paul wrote concerning women teaching, homosexuality, and remarriage after divorce was based on the culture at that time, is saying the Word of God is not Inspired (breathed on by the Holy Ghost), and that makes God a liar. Paul taught and preached under the inspiration of the Holy Ghost from a "Kingdom of God" prospective and not culture. He taught what one must do to receive salvation and how we are to maintain that salvation til the end or we will be lost.
God created Adam first out of the dust of the earth, but Eve was created out of Adam. Adam was made in God's own image and after His likeness; not Eve. That's why Jesus Christ came as a man to redeem mankind and not as a woman. Since Adam brought sin into the world it took another man to redeem mankind and that is the "Son of Man" Jesus Christ. There are no Books in the Bible Authored by a Woman. Even the book of Esther was written by a man. All of the Prophetic Books were written by men. Male Prophets spoke on behalf of God and Kings not female Prophetess. Only Men walked in the Office of a Prophet. A Prophetess is not a Female Prophet, she is a woman with the Gift of Prophecy. One is the Office the other is the gift of prophecy.
Jesus called 12 disciples and all where men. Mary and Martha were not part of the 12 disciples. When He called the 70 and sent them out they where all men. The 12 disciples later became the 12 Apostles of the Lamb; not one was a woman. On the day of Pentecost Peter stood up and Preached salvation not a woman. Paul tells us in 1 Timothy 2:14...Adam was not deceived but that the Woman being deceived was in the transgression. So this is God's command, not Paul's, for women not being in Five Fold Leadership in the Church. The words Apostles, Prophets, Teachers, Evangelist and Pastors are "Masculine Nouns", so these offices where never intended for women. The sad thing is these so called "Men of God" have allowed the worldly feminist ideology to creep into the Church and they are afraid of losing most of their membership (the church is mostly female) that is why they twist God's word to give women titles that God never ordained for women to hold. We will all be judged by the word of God and those found lacking in every area will be cast into the Lake of Fire where their is weeping and gnashing of teeth and the worm died not.
Bombay black
galactic jack
NtheNow religious spirit? God is not a man.. He used a donkey you don't think he can use a woman to teach and minister? I was brought to my salvation by a female. Thank God I didn't believe like you
Wooow interesting
what you beleive don't matter.What is the truth?
Deborah JOHNSON 🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿
@@melthomas6519 that is the Old Testament...
33 For God is not a God of confusion but of peace. As in all the churches of the saints,
34 the women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says.
35 If there is anything they desire to learn, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church. - 1 Corinthians 14:33-35
Plain as day right that do you want to argue with the Word of God? The Word of the Holy Spirit speaking through Paul?
Truth is what he said from the word itself
@@gradar420 so wait for your husband to teach you than. Simple as that. I will pour my spirit on all flesh.
@@Israelb7616 huh? I’m a man, but The verse you’re speaking of in Joel was fulfilled in Acts that’s why Peter, quoted it on/after Pentecost.
Study your Bible correctly.
If you believe the king James bible .. you must BELIEVE APOSTLE PAUL SAYS A bishop is A MAN .. not A WOMAN .. A MAN must be A husband of One WiFE .. that shows you the the Role of A PASTOR.
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Pastor Travis J Robeertson If Jesus Christ wanted women to preach he would chosen one as a apostles
Because the kjv is what Jesus used 🤣
1 Corinthians 14:35. Read that sir before you say things out of order twisting words isn't a way to the Lord.. Do not add or remove or change the Bible to fit your selfish requirement.
Thank you sir
God bless you and guide you
Amen
Taking that at face value is selfish.
"Teach OR usurp authority." Teaching and usurping are two different things, that aren't allowed according to this passage.
@@dodgeman4962.... I don't get jt
@@dodgeman4962 Corrie was evangelizing. She was not a pastor of a church.
The answer is easy. NO.
Women preachers?
Isaiah 3:12
1Peter 3:4
Ecclesiastes 7:28
Isaiah 9:16-17
1Corinthians 14:32-45
1Timothy 2:12 (Genesis 2/3)
Titus 2:3
Revelations 2:20
Holy smokes, that's a stretch. Nor can she be the husband of one wife. I say that with love sir.
Well Timothy was a pastor and he wasn’t the husband of one wife either because he was single. So what about that?
@@wiznup Is there proof he wasn't married? And beside that point, plainly if a woman is a husband of one wife, is she in sin? Forgive me, but you're swallowing a camel and straining at a gnat.
@@pcim7151 is there proof that he was!?
@@wiznup It's neither here, nor there weather he was married or not. If you have a problem with following plain and clear scripture, that would be your problem. Taking a verse that's just as plain as it can be, and casting a shadow on it for your own benefit, or agenda is just as wrong as it can be. And rebellious also for that matter.
@@pcim7151 there is plenty of expert theological exegesis available on this subject that makes your interpretation problematic.
Hello this passage is not talking about marriage. But is about worship.don't be confused.
New King James Version
And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence.
So you don’t talk or offer an opinion in your church?
@@Pastor_RogerSherwood Paul talks about women preaching to a congregation of men. Of course we are allowed to offer an opinion. Women can also hold ladies groups.
Believe me, I didn’t always have this concept until I studied God’s word for myself. Too many preachers/teachers twist scripture.
Women can lead children and other women. She can be a prophetess, evangelist, healer etc. But not a Bishop or Pastor. The lead position is not for a woman. The Bible is clear about that. Jesus never took a woman disciple. Apostle Paul is clear on what the Holy Spirit revealed. No need for any further interpretation.
Jesus words: "Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”.......question: are disciples only male? 1 Tim.3:2 A bishop then MUST be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;..apostle Paul had no wife, yet he was an overseer, Timothy was the first bishop in Ephesus,who was also not married....how come these two men could be overseers without being the husband of one wife?.....Priscilla (or Prisca) and Aquila are mentioned by name six times in the Greek New Testament. They are always mentioned together, and, significantly, in four of those occurrences, Priscilla’s name is mentioned first. This unconventional order of the wife’s name before her husband’s may be an indication that Priscilla’s ministry ability was more prominent than Aquila’s......Priscilla and her husband, Aquila, were devoted friends and ministry colleagues of Paul. At some point, or perhaps several times, they even risked their lives for Paul’s sake (Rom. 16:3-5).
Paul first met Priscilla and Aquila when he went to Corinth as part of his second missionary journey. Priscilla and Aquila had just arrived in Corinth from Rome in around 49 AD. Paul then spent eighteen months living and working together with them (Acts 18:1-3, 11, 18). After Corinth, Priscilla, Aquila, and Paul travelled together to Ephesus (Acts 18:18). Paul had confidence in the abilities of both Priscilla and Aquila as church leaders, and he left them in Ephesus to lead a church that met in their house (1 Cor. 16:19). It was while Priscilla and Aquila were leading a church at Ephesus that they met Apollo who was mighty in the scriptures......As church leaders, there would have been many occasions for Priscilla and Aquila to teach, either informally or in slightly more formal house church meetings. Neither Luke nor Paul gives any hint of censure or disapproval about Priscilla teaching Apollos, or her role as a house church leader. In light of the fact that Priscilla did explain Christian doctrine to a man, the blanket ban by some that prohibits women from teaching men must be reassessed and redressed.......
Wrong sir
@@KamiTenchi give me bible versies to proof tour comments sir
@@jmdl9584 Not you. The original poster.
But an evangelist or a teacher is a leader in the body of Christ...not a Pastor... but holds a form of leadership.....If we don't right interpret what Paul said correctly..he said women should be quiet..in churches...So again if we don't interrupt it right Women shouldnt speak at ALL...It doesn't even give leave way..for women to say anything..!!!!Whether other women or children....But never the less I believe sort of like you .We can be an evangelist or teacher....Under submission to a Pastor (male) of a church...So in a nutshell the lead pastor of a church should be a man...And his wife can co-pastor but under his authority.....She is not the lead..just like the in the home..she is not the lead....and she is not to USURP authority over her husband ..she letting God use her .but he is the head...Whether that's the lead pastor or her husband has no business ... saying Anything in the church ...And I think that was Paul's point ..women that can't submit to make leadership... whether it be her husband..or a single women...a pastor...Need to shut up in the church!!!! 😂....
Paul's prohibiting of women teaching men is found in his instructions for the church. Not going back to Adam and Eve. And his other instruction is that an Elder, which is teacher, is to be the husband of one wife. That negates a woman being a teacher.
You can't comare women prophets as being the same as teachers. Paul clearly makes a distinction between the two.
Ephesians 4:11-16
And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
It's amazing how there is such a never ending amount of these apostate teachers tickling the ears of those that need justification for rejecting certain Scriptures. The more ears that are tickled, the more money that comes into their pockets.
The pastor of our church is a woman and is the longest current standing Pastor in our County. Out of all the churches I have been to she is the most prayerful and open to the moving of the Holy Spirit as any pastor I know. Her husband is the head of her household and she does not usurp authority over him. While people are saying women cannot preach, she has been doing it and has been watching people get saved over the years!!!
People don't say women can't preach, God does. For you to use your "pastor" as an example of what is biblical, or for Andrew Womack to use Marilyn Hickey as an example to prove that something is right, biblically, is heresy. *You don't use an example in life to prove God's Word, you use God's Word to prove an example*. Why not also say that the 2 guys who have been together for 50 years make a good marriage because they've stood the test of time? God says one woman one man: that's the standard. To deviate for any reason is to deny God's word.
@@leighb.8508 God also states not to be unequally yoked but yet tells a prophet to marry a prostitute. Do not limit what God can do, and that right there is limiting how God can use people, God can use anybody he wants however he wants because he is the all knowing all powerful God, and you have to humble yourself and except that as a Christian.
@andrew Ison , if she said that she saw god in his full glory , and still lives , would you believe her? Or would you say what god said :"no one can see me and live".
I know for sure that scripture has more authority than your female pastor.
Im saying this with love my friend. I do not know her , so I have no reason to doubt her intentions, but god is very clear about it.
Many so called catholic "saints" claim to have seen and spoken to Mary , and they became outstanding believers to the eye, doing numerous good deeds, while believing a false gospel : Mary as redeemer.
Scripture says we are not saved because of good deeds, but by believing in jesus christ as redeemer, and not Mary or whatever saint.
Please watch phil johnson's sermon on : scripture vs human experience.
God bless
@@leighb.8508 Amen amen amen Well said. People are using pastor's and life cenarios to prove God's word but The truth remains. There is a way that seemeth right but the end thereof is death. That's what happening right there. God is not mocked and his word was refined 7 times. Let them try twisting it but the truth remains.
The word pastor in the Greek as used by the Apostles is MASCULINE! A pastor is a SHEPARD and a woman should not USERP authority over a man. Quote Apostle Paul unquote,,"Our Church" is not "The Church", plus "our Country" means your church is the litmos for all the churches in the world, please? Lets talk about the real CHURCH,,,,Who is the head???
He's not making any sense the bible says what it says and I'm taking my chances with it
Truth
In order to have a personal relationship with God is to pick up the Bible and invite Him to speak to you and teach you his truth.
You lack revelation! Even Proverbs 31 doesn't mean what you probably think....
He makes perfect sense.
And the Bible doesn't prohibit women from preaching, holding authority over men, etc.
Once again; Thank you Andrew
SADLY, this man does not understand the WORD OF GOD BY THE HOLY SPIRIT. NAME ONE WOMAN JESUS ordained!! NONE!! Name ONE WOMAN in the New Testament who led the MINISTRY or was ORDAINED an Elder!! NONE!! WHAT woman did JESUS CALL to apostleship, or overseeing the flock?? NONE!! Women are surely USED OF THE LORD, but NEVER in the government of God. This man misquoted ONE Scripture,
You're the one who misunderstand. Poor history. You must study.
@@ntokozomofokeng1355 how's about you try to explain why these leaders were told to be the "husband" of one wife?😐...
Last I heard, husbands are men-folk
@@rokong1771 Even though I can explain you will still argue. So stay with your view I will maintain mine.
Just don't disrespect people based on their views even though you might think you are right and by the way that's not a major doctrine of the bible so it's no big deal. Speak the truth with love. But I'd really advise you to study and open your mind.
@@ntokozomofokeng1355 hey i sometimes get curious but im honestly annoyed because i see both sides but the word husband does seem too clear so please try to explain with scripture. I won't argue. Trust me, i have a woman pastor myself and I've grown but i also see The Word. Don't know if its a heaven or hell issue but differently an issue among believers. In fact if you don't feel comfortable don't respond because i seem to feel uncomfortable writing this because i got other things to master through Christ and that is repentance and full time surrender with The Help of The Holy Spirit
So your answer is, in other words husband of one wife means "one mate" and the culture at the time was talking about polygamy, and whatever other story you are feel like using. How you gonna be silent in the church as a pastor? Why cant you just accept what it says? We dont have like it, we dont have to agree, just obey.
You are right a random man doesnt have authority over a random woman who isnt his wife. But mixing lies with the truth is how the sheep get led astray.
Paul's comments about women not speaking in church was addressed to married women only. It is the traditions and doctrines of men who have conflated that one scripture into keeping women from full participation in the church. Harmonized scripture shows absolutely that Christ intended women to teach and support the church - including teaching men. It seems to me that the men who complain most about female teaching are not able to mount successful counters to them because they would rather blame women than lead, which is what they are supposed to be doing. And by forcing a "lesser" role on unmarried women, they have cut the church off from the energy, love and support from many of God's children who happen to be daughters! The church is exactly where it is today because men won't lead properly and they discourage women from full participation - due entirely to their own traditions and doctrines, much like the Pharisees.
Yes, it's possible to twist the Word of God as this leader did. In fact it was predicted long time ago in the Bible they will do it in the last days because the Laodicea church age is so lukewarm towards the Holy Word so finally Jesus will finally spew them out of His mouth. REV. 3:13-22.
+goszen2000 Lukewarm means to mix law and grace together.
11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
I TIMOTHY 2: 11-12
Isn't this plain speech? Does this require any interpretation?
Misinterpretation and disobedience to the Word of God is what Catholic church was doing for centuries and now protestants do the same because daughters had to come back to mother harlot. It is difficult to explain this different.
The Bible clearly shows God's active use of women in leadership roles throughout the Old and the New Testament.
We believe this was the model of the Church that Christ set up after He ascended.
We believe that women can fulfill all rolls in the Five Fold Ministry: Apostles, Prophets, Evangelists, Pastors, Teachers.
We believe that the common objections against women in ministry, (1 Corinthians 14:34-35 and 1 Timothy 2:12) when seen in the context in which they were written, and taken with the whole counsel of the Bible, show that the prohibition on women as leaders in ministry was made for specific church's needs at that time.
In 1 Corinthians 11:5 Paul is stating that women will prophesy.
Exodus 15:20 and Micah 6:4 we see a story of the prophetess Miriam, who served with Moses and Aaron.
Judges 4-5 we find Deborah who was appointed by God himself to rule over all of Israel and led them to great victories.
Acts 21:8-9 mentions four daughters of Phillip with the gift of prophecy.
Romans 16:1-2 Paul commends Phoebe as a Pastor and an Evangelist.
Acts 18:26 shows Priscilla and Aquilla instructing Apollos, going against the interpretation that no women should teach a man.
Romans 16:7 describes Junia as, not only an apostle, but a notable one among them!
We, as Christ's Church, must be able to discern the cultural context of what is being written so we may more accurately understand that author's intent. Why would Paul, using a few verses, forbid women everywhere for all time from exercising spiritual authority over any man, when there are so many examples from the New and the Old Testament of God appointing and using women to grow His Kingdom in powerful ways. The answer is clear: the passages were interpreted to disallow women as leaders have been done so based on the traditions of man, and not on scripture alone.
Hi, Teri! Thank you for your comment. We appreciate your study of God's Word. God wants to use women powerfully. In Christ, there is neither male nor female (Galatians 3:28). We can all be used by God! - AWMI Team
1 Corinthians 14:34-35
Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but [they are commanded] to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
You are totally right! Joel 2:28-29 fulfill in Acts 2: so many more scriptures , example, Galatians 3:28 - There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Joel 2:28” And it shall come to pass afterward,
that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh;
and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy,
your old men shall dream dreams,
your young men shall see visions:
29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids
in those days will I pour out my spirit.
Acts 2:17 - And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
Acts Ch 2:17 , was the Fulfillment of Joel 2: 28-29. Philippians 4:3 - And I intreat thee also, true yokefellow, help those women which laboured with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and [with] other my fellowlabourers, whose names [are] in the book of life.
Acts 18:26 - And he began to speak boldly in the synagogue: whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, they took him unto [them], and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly.
Clearly we see Women in the New Testament engaged in significant ministry, performing valuable service in sometimes-difficult situations. This is readily seen in the Acts of the Apostles. Both Priscilla and Aquila spoke privately to Apollos at Ephesus (Acts 18:24-26. Further, women clearly played a significant role in the work of the Apostle Paul. In his letter to the Romans, Paul identified sixteen significant helpers in ministry (16:1-16), and at least ten of them were women. Who knows what the health of the church at Philippi would have been were it not for Lydia (Acts 16:13-15), apparently a benefactor to the church, and others such as Euodia and Syntyche (Phil. 4:2-3)? And of course, women made a significant contribution to Jesus' ministry. Luke showed appreciation of their financial support and company with Him (Luke 8:1-3).
Thanks for sharing, Sheila! God wants women in ministry. We believe when man and woman are in unity, that great accomplishments for the kingdom can be done! Be blessed! - AWMI Team
When someone's trying to justify something that's wrong, its impossible to be concise
There is neither male nor female but all are one in Christ Jesus, Galatians 3:28. Andrew is absolutely correct on the woman issue. Quite a few years ago I had come in contact with a Biblical Greek New Testament scholar and we were discussing this topic of woman being ministers.
He quickly pointed out that not only were there husband and wife teams as ministers in the New Testament (Priscilla and Aquila, 1Corn.16:19) but there were woman ministers in the church as well..........One of those woman was a woman named Phoebe, Rom. 16:1 , he pointed out to me that in this verse Phoebe is called a SERVANT of the church......... but.showed me in the Greek text where this same Greek word that they translated as SERVANT when addressing Phoebe, was the exact same
Greek word they used for Paul and other male leaders when they were addressing them as MINISTERS!!
Just go to the Strongs or other Greek concordance and research it, its all there. He said this word servant in Rom.16:1 should have been translated minister. I then asked him why this was not translated correctly and he laughed and said most of the New Testament translators were all male chauvinist !!! The bad part about it was he said he was serious!
While I am here I would like to address the false teachings that have been used against women to try to keep them out of the ministry as well as teaching the Bible ~
1~ is the scripture which says I do not allow a women to teach or usurpe authority over the man. Notice it says THE MAN , THE MAN, THE MAN meaning the womans husband,. It is not speaking against women teaching in the church. That verse also uses the word userpe which gives the idea of being forceful over the man . God has placed order in the home and chose the husband as the head of the house which is right , someone has to be the leader. This has nothing to do with teaching in ministry.
2 ~Concerning the scripture which speaks of women keeping silent in church. This is not talking about women not teaching nor ministering in church as so many men have taught . In the early days of church gatherings, the men sat on one side of the room & the women on the other. Women would at times yell over to their husbands when they had a question.This is the problem Paul was addressing there as the rest of that scriptures says "let them ask their husbands at home". The Amish still practice this today. The men sit on one side of the room & women on the other.
Some men seem to keep their focus on the scripture which says " Wives submit to your husbands" & beat women over the head with this demanding she submit to his whims. These same men never finish reading the scripture which also tells men to LOVE their wives as Christ loved the church & gave himself up for her........ Think about what this is saying. When a man passionately loves a women in that way, he will be kind, gentle & loving & protective towards her .....what women in her right mind would not want to submit to a guy like that!!!
heismyhightower the bible in 1st corinthians and 1st Timothy addresses women in the church.
heismyhightower 1 Timothy 2:12 KJV
[12] But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp AUTHORITY (notice this, pastor has authority) over the man, but to be in silence.
Morge20 Correct. Qualifications of pastor : "HUSBAND of one wife". It says nothing about "OR the wife of one husband". The Bible is very clear . All one has to do is read it in proper CONTEXT.
Kesha Powell................................what you just listed is the qualifications of the Bishop which is an elected position. Meaning he is chosen by the people, like the elder or the deacon. The five fold ministers, which are offices designated by God (the Holy Spirit) are those offices chosen by God (Ephesians Chapter 4). That would be the Pastor, Preacher, teacher, Evangelist, and Prophet. No where in the bible does it list the qualification for these offices, other than they ARE SELECTED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT.
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I like how hes claiming other people are misinterpreting the scripture when hes clearly misinterpreting the scripture. Sad days.
I agree
All these people that are twisting God's Word, to suit their warped agenda, will suffer the consequences for adding to and taking away from the Word of God.
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Read 1 Timothy 2:13-14 For Adam was created first, and then Eve. 14 And it was not Adam who was deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and broke God's law.
Mr Wommack in all respect, you might want to consider removing this video. Your interpretation of 1Tim2:12 hinges on the definite article “the” occurring before “man.” This does occur in some English translations but it does not occur in any Greek manuscript I could find.
In all disrespect he will keep it here to mislead those with the feminist spirit.
@@velipekkanousiainen2408 Feminism spirit is sooo anti-Christ I can't stand it!
2 Timothy 2:12
γυναικι δε διδασκειν δε Aγυναικι ουκ επιτρεπω ουδε αυθεντειν ανδρος αλλ ειναι εν ησυχια
The original text does NOT have the article THE, it is simply ANDROS (man, male), where in the world did you see the article there and how did you come to the conclusion that ANDROS = husband ????
And please also point out to any writings of the Church Fathers or Apostolic Fathers who ever interpreted these verses the way you and other shallow theologians from the last 2 centuries interpret.
iddorin He will not respond to you. He is a people pleaser, more properly a woman pleaser. It's called Adam syndrome, meaning that he's more afraid of the wrath of Eve than the wrath of God.
Be a Berean and don't allow anyone to deceive you. Great to see someone who actually STUDIES his Bible. (plus I recommend the Textus Receptus Greek instead of the manmade Westcott-Hort manuscript from the two rationalists who denied the deity of Jesus)
I have checked out the writings of the church fathers and it's pretty interesting that if women keeping silent in the church service was only for the Corinthians or only for the Ephesians or it was only about judging prophecy or if it was really about wives and husbands rather than the public church service, that completely escaped their attention. We are supposed to be impressed that some seminary professor 1800 years later discovers such an interpretation?
1 Corinth 14:34,35
Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
Back in the day women would constantly ask thier husband's questions about what what said during church and it says to be silent that's what that means read the Greek and the truth from religion will set you free
I’ve never been in a church where women are not permitted to speak?..
@@400080vikkash Obey the unchanging word of God without any question. What apostles said to the churches is still followed and maintained in churches. Why so much confusion with such simple instructions. Women can prophecy, teach women, spread gospel, speak the word to other unbelieving brothers, but keep silence in the church. That's it.
Now why does that sound offensive to some 🤔
"Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.
(Letting it run i continuity, for all ages/time)
35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a SHAME for WOMEN to SPEAK in the church.
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1 Corinthians 14:34-35
"Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication..."
Revelation 2:20
"This is a true saying, if a MAN desire the office of a bishop, HE desireth a good work.
2 A bishop then must be blameless, the HUSBAND of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to TEACH..."
1 timothy 3:1-2
These 3 scriptures is the answer to this...
Read the KJV and realize the Truth!
It is hard for me to use the liberating words of the bible to oppress people from Godly leadership, wisdom and authority. Reading the New Testament Jesus spoke out against people who were using the Law of Moses to shackle people just as Jesus rebuked sin. I have to ask my self by using scripture to quiet the voices and to oppress the spirits of God seeking hearts in our churches are we making the same mistakes as the leaders of the Law in the time of Jesus? Are we missing the message that was right there all along to rather preach a controlling legalistic message that can make sense if we simply read the words on the page?
Also I do not want to put words in your mouth but the comment at the end, do you stand in the belief that the KJV is the interpretation that we should hold above all others? (english speaking of course, I know we'd both would advocate for original greek and hebrew :) ) If you do I'd love to hear your reasoning (no sarcasm) I'm very interested and appreciative of hearing and understanding where people come from and how they got there! I love discussing thoughts and theology with others even if it is on the internet where we see more vile thoughts and opinions then we do genuine curiosity and conversation. Thank you for sharing your voice
You absolutely don't know what you are talking about.
1 Corinthians 14:29-32
“Two or three prophets should speak, and the others should weigh carefully what is said. 30And if a revelation comes to someone who is sitting down, the first speaker should stop. 31For you can all prophesy in turn so that everyone may be instructed and encouraged. 32The spirits of prophets are subject to the control of prophets.”
2 Things here:
“Two or three prophets should speak” - 1 Cor 14:29
“And if a revelation comes to someone who is sitting down, the first speaker should stop - σιγάτω (sigatō) - .” - 1 Cor 14:30
The word here also is the same as the others - σιγάτω (sigatō).
Today’s Application
The point here is also, there are very strict instructions for Prophets to dicern what other Prophets are saying - I’ve not seen very many “Prophets” interpreting one another. But the bigger point here is that if Prophets and those speaking in tongues have this type of restriction - how much more of a restriction to everyday men have? No one is to be disruptive.
Women
1 Corinthians 14:34
34Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak - σιγάτω (sigatō) -, but must be in submission, as the law says. 35If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak - σιγάτω (sigatō) - in the church.
Today’s Application
Now, when looking at each of these cases before, people speak in tongues all the time and over each other, if someone is an actual prophet, I’ve not seen other prophets to interpret that word right there - and the number limitations for each of these are strict. Are these followed? No, and we all know they aren’t. Even within this particular verse - are women actually forbidden from speaking in Churches? Wouldn’t it be disgraceful for us to allow that any where? But how many churches do you know that actually don’t allow women to speak at all as this verse says?
So here we get to the meat of this particular issue, and I am going to bring several, Biblical and grammatical points to this verse.
The assumptions that people gather, from this:
This is referring to all women
Women are to never ever speak in Church
And that is disgraceful for a women to speak at all in church.
Let’s look at the greek for this:
It doesn’t actually ready “women” It reads, The women. The definitive article might seem contrite, but it’s really not when we are looking at the true meanings of a sentence and its structure. This is important because we have to look at the next part of this. “They should ask their own husbands; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the Church.” Why would there need to be a distinction between The women and also their own? That is a bit odd, if this is blanked statement about all women and them not speaking in Church.
It is clear that these particular women are asking questions to people OTHER than their own husbands, that this is about women speaking out of turn and being disruptive and asking any one anything. You may think this is a stretch, but if a woman doesn’t have a husband, then why would Paul need to make this particular distinction, not just to ask their husbands, but to ask their own husbands.
The word for woman in greek is γυναῖκες gynaikes - This is also used for wife when it’s speaking in relation to giving husbands an instruction. (Colossians 3:18, Ephesians 5:22, 1 Peter 3:1). So this is clearly talking about the wives, whom Paul had gotten report about, that were spouting off and asking other peoples husbands, and not paying attention in Church.
The further reasoning for this goes to the next point which is contradictory to the command for silence - σιγάτω (sigatō).
Women are never to speak in Church
Paul didn’t just say that, but He said that it was disgraceful! Well - when looking at the instructions for wearing veils - Paul not only says that it’s ok for women to speak, but he would be including them in 1 Corinthians 14:29-32 of being able to stand with the men and prophecy.
1 Corinthians 11:2 - 5
2I praise you for remembering me in everything and for holding to the traditions just as I passed them on to you. 3But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, a and the head of Christ is God. 4Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head. 5But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head-it is the same as having her head shaved.
Now here is something so interesting - Paul is giving women instructions for wearing a head covering - while praying and prophesying!
Women speaking in the Church and Paul Approves
Is he then giving these women also the instruction to not speak and that it’s disgraceful for a woman to speak in Church? It can’t be. Because he is directly addressing their authority to be able to pray and prophesy in the Church. So thus this first instruction is to be looked at not in terms of ALL women - but a particular set of them, who were being rowdy, and asking men other than their husbands questions.
Going back to 1 Corinthians 14:29-32 and 1 Corinthians 14:27 - these are instructions not just for men, but ALSO for women. Thus everyone was under the exact same rules for being silent in Church if you weren’t speaking in tongues with and interpreter, prophesying, or doing another approved practice.
But again, isn’t it odd, that Paul would have to tell men to NOT cover their heads? This is because of the practices of the day when they would sacrifice to their pagan gods - that men would also cover their heads.
Further more - when we look at the rest of the discussion about women wearing veils - the discussion of long hair comes up.
1 Corinthians 11:14
14Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him,
Here we have another rule for men that we don’t strictly enforce today with men having long hair.
But regardless, there are very few churches that make women wear a veil in church, I do not know of one personally.
So Now let’s head on over to the big boy 1 Timothy 2:12 - “I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.”
When looking at this all of the above is needed for the proper context into what this means, and the getting used to the idea of deeply looking at what the greek means, what Paul means, and the role of women in the Church.
I rarely hear, if ever, someone dig very deeply into this with the furor that is used for other issues, and this is why I totally understand your take on things.
So we have established in 1 Corinthians several things:
Paul seemingly said that women are to remain silent and that it’s disgraceful for them to speak
The use of the same greek word for silence used in relationships to Prophets and those speaking in tongues
The conclusions after digging into these are such:
The context of all of this is pertaining to having order in the Church and making it so that outsiders could come in and get saved
Paul clearly affirms women who pray and prophecy - as he speaks of the proper head coverings for them in relation to praying and prophesying
Thus Paul is couldn’t be referring to all women when he was speaking of instructions for them - as there would be a clear contradiction here
The rules were for men and women who were not in any authorized way participating in the learning and sharing of Christ and His Teachings (They weren’t teaching from the NT because it hadn’t been written yet)
Everyone was required to keep silent in Church
@@user-wn8mc1yc1g love your comment. I agree with it.
connor fowkes Hi, I understand where you are coming from. Jesus did just as you say, and I wonder if we are making the same mistake, as you mentioned.
J very interesting, thank you. I was looking around to see if it is ok to not only share scripture, but share meaning...thank you for sharing this.
If we deeply study and analyze the Epistle of St. Paul to the Galatians (Gal. 3:28-29), which narrates, "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither Slave nor Free, there is neither Male nor Female for all in ONE with Christ Jesus."
Q1?... In what ASPECT did the Epistle of St. Paul to the Galatians relate regarding "NO DISTINCTION"?... Answer... from the ASPECT of SALVATION only...
Q2?... Do the "Duties and Responsibilities" given to Man and Woman by God, have NO longer DISTINCTION in Christ?... Answer...NOPE... there are still distinctions between a Man and a Woman... Christ said, "Whomsoever DOES the WILL of my Father, is my mother, brother, and sister ... and will enter the Kingdom of Heaven."...
Q3?... What is one of the WILL of God (God's Prerogative)?... Answer... Women of Faith must/should learn to KEEP Silent/Quiet in total Humility and submission to the Church of God in Christ... just like Blessed Mary, who is Blessed among Women, found highly Favored by God and full of Grace from the Holy Spirit, even she is qualified to TEACH and PREACH, kept her silent/quiet in total humility and submission to the Church of God in Christ Jesus till her death...all "Women of Faith" should walk-on her set of example.
Q4?... If Galatians 3:28-29 covers all ASPECT of Equality (no distinction)... therefore, does this mean the HEAD of the Woman is no longer the MAN based on 1 Cor. 11:3?... Answer... Nope... Man is still the HEAD of the Woman SPIRITUALLY both in the Church and in Marriage.. while the HEAD of every MAN is Christ Jesus...
Q5?... Can "Women of Faith" do anything in the Church of God in Christ?... Answer... Yes, God created the Woman (Eve) as the BEST SUITABLE HELPER (not slave or servant) for man, she can help assist man with the distribution, collection, donation, and contribution to the Church, and she can also do the Church's Gospel Choir with musical instruments, etc... but leave the Church MANAGEMENT, TEACHING, PREACHING, REFUTING, DEBATING, CORRECTING, BAPTIZING, and making DISCIPLESHIP to the "MEN (Elder) of Faith" for the Church of God in Christ... Christ gave the KEYS to the Gates of Heaven to a Man named Apostle Peter and not to any qualified women...
Q6?... What if there is NO "Man of Faith" fit to be a Pastor/Preacher?... Answer... Have faith in God... God can make a way, when there seems to be no way... Prophet John the Baptist said to the stubborn Jews that God could make Descendants of Abraham out of the ROCK... the Rock is Christ, and that is why, Christians are grafted by God to the Real VINE (Christ Jesus) as the adopted Sons of Abraham... Perhaps, if there will be no more "Men of Faith," God will use a BOY (male child) to Teach and Preach the Gospel... impossible to Man but very possible with God.
In conclusion, the only TIME that there will be absolutely NO DISTINCTION in all ASPECT is after the JUDGMENT DAY of God... Those who will be SAVED will live the Life of IMMORTALITY, with no more distinction between Man and Woman, Ethnicity, Nationality, etc., they will not get married to have a family of their own, and no more procreation... We will be as ONE BODY in Christ Jesus living in the New Heaven and New Earth with New Jerusalem, forever... Praise be to God in Christ Jesus... Amen and Amen...
Brother Andrew please explain 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 to us.
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So explain 1 Corinthians 33-35. " Let your women keep silent silence in church"
Also saith the LAW"
"As in all churches of the saints".
The Law DOESN'T say that. Simplest response.
@@j-mshistorycorner6932 by the law he means the Bible as in v.21. The commandment is this passage is an inspired application of Old Testament principles seen in Genesis 3:16 and elsewhere.
Women have many roles in Ministry. However, I do not believe that a Woman should be the Head Pastor of a Church. Whenever you find a "Woman" the head Pastor of a Church, or in a "Male dominated" leadership role of the Church....you will find problems in the marriage. Remember, it was Eve that was deceived, not Adam! By design, Women are made differently from the Male. God relieved the female from this responsibility of leadership in the Church. She is the "Nurturer." You cannot be both. So, I cannot agree with this teaching.
Very well answered.
King Kern..........prove your statements. Prove that women in church leadership roles have problems at home in their marriages. Prove it. And then explain the problems with the men leaders who have issues at home with their marriages. By your argument, these male leaders should have perfect marriages since they are the leaders and their wives are not. And while you are at it, explain the great number of male leaders who are cheating and philandering on their holy wives. A lot of them with the very sisters in their churches.
What about where the bible says that there is no gender race tribe before God!!We are all the same. SO how is it now that women are now lesser beings than men?
King kern I absolutely agree, I'm married to a woman Preacher and we continue to be at odds with each other about her position as a Preacher. She seems to have this dominating attitude about her self that she just doesn't see or she just doesn't want to see it. I don't think I'm going to be able to put up with it much longer...
Cowboys................give us a detailed example of her dominating attitude, other than the fact that she believes God has called her to minister his gospel to the lost and equip the body of Christ to draw others to Jesus. What does she do that causes you to feel that she is taking a domineering attitude with you?
Thank you for this validation Andrew. I have been considering going to a new church with a female pastor and needed confirmation. This is the first time I'm seeing your TH-cam channel but there are no coincidences!!! I am now a regular subscriber.
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DO NOT go to a church with the woman as the head of the church . You are going against the commands of the Lord
@Jeffrey, I believe the Bible is very clear, based on the verses quoted in the video that women are not supposed to be in government (because then they are over men) I personally would not go to a church with women pastors and I do not agree with what was said in this video. I used to follow Pastor Andrew a few years ago to the point where I almost went to Charis Bible College but then I realize he has some false doctrines which obviously are being passed on to the newly minted pastors and onto the flock and onto hellfire. Please consult Jesus for yourself. Read the Bible asking the Lord to show you the way.
@@s.m.3423 you can’t just read the English bible and take it at face value without digging deeper and understanding CONTEXT. Remember these are Epistles and Letters. Some are responses to letters that we don’t even have copies of so for example...how do we know that a list of possible pastors had not already been identified, all male, and so when asked how to select from that group the answer was “the husbsnd of one wife.” So instead of looking at all the women that worked in ministry at that time and considering the capacity in which they FUNCTIONED we write them off as nothing but a servant to the men? This is how we confine and oppress others in the church, especially women and it’s disgraceful.
1st Corinthians 14 34 -35
if a woman is preaching in the church and call herself a pastor do like the movie get out God say it is a shame for a woman to speak that follows under sin you are being misled obey God's law
1 Tim 2:12 says 2 things.
1. Suffer not a woman to teach.
2. Nor (or neither) to usurp authority.
So there is here 2 things a woman should not be doing. It's not only not usurp. But also not teach.
Can you please show me where in 1 Cor 7 it's says "as also sayest the law"???
Can't find it.
Thank you!!
Thank you for your question, Michael. We are happy to assist you. Andrew is referring to 1 Corinthians 7:39: "The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth..."
Andrew is making the point that under the law, wives were to be in subjection to their husbands. Andrew points out that a wife's subjection to her husband was included in the law as well as the ability for women to be in authority, including Deborah, Huldah and Miriam who were prophetess. Thus, the law instructed women to submit to their husbands; however, did not limit women not to teach or have authority as we see in the examples given.
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Andrew go to the book of 1Corinthians14:34-35 Then go to 1Timothy2:12 those scriptures will explain a bit more in detail
Teach us better then
This is not scripturally backed up - There is a word that is a hapax legomenon which only appears one time. We didn't use the original koine greek to translate this word because we didn't know what it meant - we used another translation of the Bible.
We have known for a while what the word actually means because we have found texts that speak to how it was used in that Day.
Paul also never used that specific word when referring to Church authority - it's a word that only appears 1 time in the entire Bible.
This is the proof.
juniaproject.com/defusing-1-timothy-212-bomb/
juniaproject.com/translation-1-timothy-212/
www.cbeinternational.org/sites/default/files/First_Davis.pdf
margmowczko.com/isaiah-3_12-women-leaders/ juniaproject.com/defusing-1-timothy-212-authority-authentein/
The logic still won't make sense. So @ home the woman is to be subjected to learn in silence @ home but in the church it is lawful to be her husband's pastor.
The Greek should have been taught here. In Greek the wording is a pugnacious militant task master type instruction not the kind of instruction that promotes healing or growth.
Women are allowed to pastor, teach, preach, and reach!!! God bless women who answer the call when men choose not to. God will use ANYONE TO GET HIS MESSAGE ACROSS!!!!!!!!!!!!
When men choose NOT TO? Who are you, a judge, only a woman would say such a thing and such statements are what tend to disqualifies them as TEACHERS. God made the man before HE did the woman, You sound like God made the woman as a substitute for the errant man. So, so mean of a statement.
women are allowed to teach other women, and children. not men. 1st timotheus chapter 2 verses 11 and 12 say so.
Women can teach whether a man chooses to or not.
that's where people go wrong when they say "I believe". instead of the word says
Yep, that's exactly what happened with Paul, when he said " I believe a woman should not teach."
Well said.
@Ardent Fan riiight. So are you God's keeper That you may tell him who he will or will not use?
It is written I will pour my spirit upon all flesh.
I Have twisted nothing! That is the written word of God! You are denying the very word of God because it does not suit your argument!
I do not deny that Adam was first, and then Eve. I do not argue that women should submit to their own husband. That I know.
But that does not change the fact that in heaven, it will not matter if we are women or men. We will all be praising God. Both man and woman will inherit the kingdom of God.
But there is always those who hate and belittle the creation of God forgetting that Adam also ate the forbidden fruit. And it was because he sinned that mankind was kicked out of the Garden of Eden.
Troll
Smh
Can women be a pastor?
1. “Women who claim to love God should do helpful things for others, and they should learn by being quiet and paying attention. They should be silent and not be allowed to teach or to tell men what to do.”
1 Timothy 2:10-12
2. “Now I want you to know that Christ is the head of all men, and a man is the head of a woman. But God is the head of Christ.”
1 Corinthians 11:3
3. “Men were created to be like God and to bring honor to God. This means a man should not wear anything on his head. Women were created to bring honor to men. It was the woman who was made from a man, and not the man who was made from a woman. He wasn't created for her. She was created for him.”
1 Corinthians 11:7-9
4. “God wants everything to be done peacefully and in order. When God's people meet in church, the women must not be allowed to speak. They must keep quiet and listen, as the Law of Moses teaches. If there is something they want to know, they can ask their husbands when they get home. It is disgraceful for women to speak in church.”
1 Corinthians 14:33-35
The Mark of the Beast is the Number of a Man. Like we need the Beast System to do all of the preaching. Don't think so.
calm down, we don't want to panic at the disco
He's incorrect. Women can teach but can't be pastors. Overseers are for men.
Do you think that people that have been divorced more than once can be saved and do good for Christ?
Absolutely, Connie! God loves all of His children passionately no matter what mistakes they have made. Sin is no longer a barrier between us and the Lord and He will use anyone with a willing heart. If you'd like to hear more on this topic, we encourage you to build up your spirit with Andrew's "Righteousness Series," for free here: www.awmi.net/audio/audio-teachings/#/awm_e01_righteousness.mp3. If you have any other questions, please don't hesitate to let us know. We want to be a blessing to you!
Of course they can be saved!! Only Jesus can save not our works
Can I ask you a question? What is a prophet? It is one who speaks on behalf of God is it not? So if there are several women who operated as prophetesses who spoke on behalf of God then please explained to me by whom's authority does every other office in the five fold ministry speak? Do you believe that God can rebuke a mad prophet through a donkey, but he can't declare his perfect will through the mouth of a woman? So you mean to tell me that an animal is worth more than the creature who was created in God's image? Do we now pick and choose what scriptures we follow and what ones we reject? Pray for revelation folks. I agree that a man should operate in the role as head and leader, but I will not fix my mouth in pride to say that God can not and will not use whom he desires. If men would not have abused their positions in the first place, then the spirit of feminism would not have gained a foothold in our society. Many men have used the bible to put their foot on the necks of those who they were entrusted to provide for and protect. God didn't put men over women so that you could raise your heads in pride because of your gender, he put man as head as a reflection of Christ and the Church. Regardless of gender I wouldn't want to be a pastor over this wicked generation, bickering amongst themselves of "matters of men" instead of focusing on the work of the Kingdom. Shame on us. The same men that sneer at women preachers, are the same men that will take on careers where they are gone a majority of the time in the name of wealth and pride, bigger boats, fancier trucks and cars, last by certainty not least, the American dream chase, only to leave the woman alone and force her to take a position of head over the house hold. Which one is it going to be brothers? Are you going to steady demand you be given honor and respect or are you going to get your character in order and be found worthy of such an honor. Believe me when I say God would not look down on a woman who refused to bow down to a wicked and sinful man. That is why Abigail is referred to in the bible as a woman of understanding. She had to save her foolish husband's house hold from the wrath of a more worthy and honorable man. You can't have it both ways. God is God no matter what our opinions are and HE will use whomever has submitted themselves to his Lordship. Whether Black, white, green, purple, male, or female.
Prophet is when God speaks thew that person,unto his people.moses was a prophet.better known as a messages from God.lead my people out of the wilderness,listen to my prophet.he will give word,from the God..to avoid the pit falls.i come before the as a prophet..minister to.speak...to give a word from the Lord..it just different operations of the fruit of the spirit.but by God..such as I spoken word from the Lord that your strength, understanding, courage will come in due times...
Man is the head on woman, Christ is the head of man, and God is the head of Christ. Preaching and prophesying are two different things yet of the same principle, while pastoring and being the head of a local assembly is totally different. Show me one woman Apostle in the Bible or show me one woman Apostle in the apostolic fathers writings show me one woman king in Israel or one woman bishop or Elder in the Greek text anywhere and I'll take down my stands that women can't pastor. Women are permitted to prophesy evangelize and teach in the Church of Jesus Christ, but not be in head ship.
The One Judges 4:4 Now Deborah, a prophet, the wife of Lappidoth, was leading Israel at that time.
Junia was a woman apostle
again no woman is to speak in the CHURCH PERIOD he made it so clear that if a woman have questions asked her HUSBAND at home it is a SHAME for a woman to speak in the CHURCH all the woman whom prophesied look them up they were NOT IN THE CHURCH BUT OUTSIDE THE CHURCH IF ONE IS IN THE CHURCH SPEAKING AND A WOMAN SHE IS GOING TO HELL PERIOD
Abigail had understanding but u DON'T APPARENTLY SHE WASN'T IN A CHURCH SPEAKING PERIOD LOOK UP THE STORY URSELF OUTSIDE THE CHURCH YEA BUT ONLY MAN IN THE CHURCH PERIOD
What about the male pronouns outlined in the qualifications for eldership in 1 Tim 3:1-7, Titus 1:5-9, 1 Peter 5:1-4? Paul is clearly teaching the office of elder/pastor is reserved for men. In addition, no woman authored scripture, no major prophets were women, etc.
They play a role in church but they are to be receivers of instruction and are not to exercise authority over men.
With respect, your exegesis is askew...
Yup.. he is reaching.
Deborah a prophetess and judge
@@brandibee7058that's old testament
The question is "Can a woman become a pastor?", and of course the answer is yes. If you ask the question, "Can a woman become a real pastor?", the answer is obviously no. This is simply not the order, and has zero to do with what God chooses to do. You're reading way too far into this question. Only the deceiver would call a woman to become a pastor.
Brother Andrew might have missed it in this area, but come on guys, let's try to walk in love here. The Bible says to speak the truth in love, and to pray for one another. Instead, some of you guys are ready to write this brother off as a hell bound false teacher. That's one of the biggest problems with the body of Christ today; we're too thirsty to call people out as a false teacher and ship em off to hell. I know unbelievers that are more merciful than that. When Peter was playing the racist against the gentiles, God didn't give up on him. He showed him a vision and then sent him to preach unto gentiles. And even after that he backslid into his own prejudices at which Paul rebuked him. Never once did God or Paul write him off as a false teacher who's going to hell. They loved him, and directed him back to truth. Why can't we do the same here? All throughout the Bible we are taught to love each other, so how is it that there is so much hatred in this comment section. What God are you guys serving?
I agree Andrew is terribly terribly wrong on this and we need to pray that he will see the light and repent but he is not a false teacher.
What YOU, Sir, think, is irrelevant! How YOU, Sir, interpret God's word is irrelevant! What the Word SAYS is what it says. Why twist it to fit your belief system?
According to the Bible, NO! According to man's rules, YES!
What's more important? Man's rule or God's?
(1 Timothy 2:11-12) "Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. {12} But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence."
You, sir, are twisting God's word. It's talking about men in general. "...usurp authority over the man.....". ANY MAN! Her Bubby! Her Pastor! Which ever man is in her life! If a woman is married to a preacher, and SHE is up there preaching, SHE IS WRONG, and must submit to her husband's authority! HE should be preaching! NOT HER! She is clearly out of sink with God's Holy Word!
This is why I don't adhere to those other so called BIBLES, because MOST ALL of them have been written by so called Scholars, who have changed the meanings of the verses to fit their own belief system, or to say what they want it to say. it is isn't in the KJB, it isn't God's Holy Word! The King James Bible was around way before these supposed scholars came around to translate it into English. That's why there are so many different churches with their own brand of Christianity, like the Catholics, and the Mormons, but are they truly Christian? NO! There is only ONE way to God, and that's through Jesus Christ, not through Joseph Smith, or any other Mortal, but through JESUS Christ! There is also no salvation outside of the name of Jesus, and there is no remission of sins outside of the name of Jesus. So when someone is baptized, if the baptizer doesn't say that he is baptizing in the name of Jesus, he is not obeying God's word.
Ephesians 5:21 says "We are to be subject to one another out of reverence for Christ." Are you UPC?
@@wiznup what does it matter if I am or not upc? What matters I s what the bible says. Not whay you BELIEVE it says!
sir hood exactly, I will give you back your own advice. It doesn’t matter what you think it says either. I think Andrew Wommack is spot on with his interpretation of the scriptures.
@@wiznup
How you or Mr. Wommack interpret the Bible is one thing. What is SAYS is another. And it says this:
1 Timothy 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
There are many other verses in the Bible that would confirm this, but this one is straight to the point. And you cannot use the excuse that it is OLD GOSPEL, because it is in the New Testament, which means it isn't OLD LAW! On the same train of thought is this verse:
1 Corinthians 11:14 Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?
This verse says straight forward that it's a shame for a man to have long hair. You can interpret it any way you want, but the fact remains that it says that it's a shame for a man to have long hair. PERIOD!
Ones interpretation of these scriptures is meaningless. What it SAYS isn't!
sir hood please don’t tell the women in the underground church in China that they must be silent. You do not understand the context of the scriptures you are quoting. th-cam.com/video/iwf7rmA1y9M/w-d-xo.html
When I was a little boy and I went to church I remember every church had a King James Bible and Hymn book. Back then there was a FEAR.of God. A real fear, not just a reverence. Nearly everyone went to church somewhere..( I’m not saying everyone was saved or going to a Biblical based church) You get my drift. Most everything was shut down on Sundays. It was the Lords day, and EVERYONE knew it. Churches got together and had fellowship and were like minded. Over my lifetime I have watched the world infiltrate the church and Satan is laughing up his sleeve. This topic was never an issue when I was a little boy. Everyone knew the role of a man and a woman and it was not in question. In today’s society men want to be women, and women want to be men. Very twisted and completely contrary to the word of God. I would have to strongly disagree with his interpretation on this portion of Scripture. Praise God
Thank you. Amen and amen! There's an old saying that says " if it's new it's probably not true " since the Pentecostal church was founded around 1900 we've had these kinds of teachings slowly making their way into the church and breaking the church down. It began with allowing women to Pastor churches. For almost 2,000 years everybody knew that God can use women in miraculous ways just not as the pulpit authority. This passage of scripture is not talking about husband and wives, it's talking about men and women in general. This guy is literally not interpreting the scripture correctly. I came here just to see what a charismatic would say about the subject. I'm not surprised. May God be glorified in the lives of those who trust in Jesus and prayerful read and study his precious word
@@poppyozark it is talking about marriage that is why paul referred to adam and eve. Romans 16:1-2 paul greets phoebe as a fellow worker in christ. God said himself in the last days sons and daudghters will prophecy. Marriage is a different thing and there are roles in marriage.
@@shio_sakaki_the_legend392 1 Timothy 2 is very clearly talking about the public assembly of the saints, not marriage.
@@conceptualclarity Timothy is saying the same thing paul is saying in 1corinthians4:34. Which is about orderly worship in church. If you begin in verse 8, he tells the men on how to worship in church. Then verse 9 he tells the women on how to dress in church. Then verse 11 he repeats what paul said, that women when in church should learn quietly and behave and shouldn't usurp authority over a man (not men). Meaning her husband while she is in church. Thats why he referred to adam and eve. The moment eve took charge over her husband and became leader in the relationship, she got deceived because when you switch roles in a marriage, the devil can easily defeat you. Timothy is telling women that even when in church and worshipping, marriage principles don't stop between a couple. He is not talking about positions of ministering the word of God to a congregation.
@@shio_sakaki_the_legend392 "He is not talking about positions of ministering the word of God to a congregation"
He speaks of women not teaching. This is clearly about the church, not a couple. Yes, the passages outline orderly worship in the church, and part of that is women accepting greater limitations in accordance with Biblical order. The limitations are about the church context, not the marriage context. The reference to remaining quiet is obviously not intended to guide the interaction of the couple at home.
No, follow the word of God, and be obedient.
And the Word never forbids female pastos.
It is clear the Bible has no authority over Andrew Wommack. 1 Cor. 14:34-36 makes it clear that it is a shame for women to speak in the church. Let that word sink in...speak...speak...speak. Paul even says that if they will learn anything they should ask their husbands at home.
That means it's not just a little bit improper; it's quite wrong.
That scripture didn't say "thee man" as you said, it reads "a man" or any man. It also says the woman "must be quiet", in other words, she should sit down, listen and try to learn - from "a man". If the scripture was talking ONLY about her man, Paul would have said " I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over her husband. In rare instances God allowed certain women to lead because of the problems that were occurring at certain times with His people, those times were the exception, not the rule, in fact, scripture makes it clear that when women lead, there is a problem (Isaiah 3:12). Also, women in places like Africa have just as much freedom as anywhere else, in fact the country of Rwanda have more women in government then any country in the world. Also when you say Africa, try to be more specific, there are 54 countries in Africa.
Andrew is right, so you are wrong. Throughout the Bible in the new testament, anér: a man, is being used in the context 'the man' as opposed to 'any man'.
You are off on this one Andrew!!! Even a child can understand what these verses say.
Even though i think women can be pastors, i disagree with his interpretation of those verses. He is doing mental gymnastics
We are so clearly in the last days when the devil can get so called believers asking 'did God really say?' About CLEAR instructions on how to run the church. Even a non believer who understands the english language couldn't miss what Paul meant.
The 12 apostles, are all men!
@David Celis Nice ramble, but what are you arguing against? Or for, for that matter?
@David Celis I am a woman. You should read the whole Bible. See things from God's perspective, since He created us, not the other way around. God Bless.
And the first people the risen Jesus told to go and tell everybody were women. Also, in Isreal and many other nations, women were not allowed to get an education. Thus, would you wan't people who can neither read nor write teaching the word of God? Isreal started allowing the education of women around 14th century AD.
Let your women keep silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak; but they are to be submissive, as the law also says. And if they want to learn something, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is shameful for women to speak in church. 1Corin14:34-35
Maybe the women in this particular church were causing a disruption and Paul had to address it.
You need to check a better translation Andrew and read more commentaries. A minister is to be a husband of one wife. A woman can't be a husband of one wife.
Andrew Wommack... You've almost got it right. However, 1 Cor 14:34-35 is not a quotation from the Old Testament at all.
instead, it's a quotation from "them of old time"... the original Rabbis of the Pharisee sect. Their sayings were passed down orally in the first century, and were binding on all Pharisees. The oral tradition was put into writing in the 2nd century... today we know it as the first part of what the Jews call the "Mishnah."
And in the Mishnah, we have the exactly wording of "the law" quoted by Paul in 1 Cor 14.
So what's going on here? Is Paul referring to the Pharisaical law, to try to make a point?
NO.
What is going on, is that 1 Corinthians was written as an answer to the church's previous letter to Paul, which we no longer have.
That lost letter was full of questions. 1 Corinthians quotes from that lost letter, and answers the quotes.
1 Corinthians 14:34-35 are not instructions from Paul.
Those verses are questions from the church to Paul, which Paul is quoting from that letter.
And Paul is answering the question!
Look at the context, and especially at the verse immediately following the quote.
Paul is talking about the gifts of the spirit, and how they are to operate in the church.
He has just finished saying that you ALL may prophesy, so that ALL may learn and ALL may be encouraged.
Every one of those 3 "ALL"'s must be interpreted the same way. That's a basic rule of Bible interpretation.
Therefore, "all" who are to be learning and encouraged, are the "all" who are to allowed to prophesy.
Are women excluded from learning? From encouragement? Of course not! Then they must also be allowed to prophesy!
Now, look at the verse immediately following the quote in question.
"WHAT?" (This is a Greek word that ALWAYS means ONLY opposition to an idea just spoken. It's a disjunctive conjunction: linking too opposing ideas. Therefore, what comes after the "what?" is directly opposed to what came before the "what?".
And Paul says , "What? did the word of God come out from you? Or came it unto you only?"
Now, evidently, somebody was trying to shut somebody else up. Forbidding them to prophesy.
Verses 34-35 says some men were trying to make all the women shut up.
And Paul's answer is very clear: NO WAY.
Did the Word-made-flesh come out of a man? No. He came out of a woman.
Did the Word spoken by God come only to males? No. Salvation is for both male and female.
God has always used women, down through the centuries, in both old and new testaments, as much as males would allow Him to. (They limited the Holy One of Israel.) We have Scripture that was inspired through women, in both old and new testaments!
You see, the Pharisees had such a low view of women they came up with a different Temple layout, from how God instructed Moses. God never forbade women from coming alongside men, into the Temple. God even used women as singers and worship leaders in Temple worship. God did lay the heavy work of temple sacrifice, on the men, because men are physically stronger, and it's very hard work, to be offering sacrifices one after another, all day long!
But God never called for a "women's court" as existed in Jesus' day. That was all the work of the Pharisees, trying to shut women out and shut them down.
Judaizers were always following Paul around, trying to pollute the early church with legalism. Pharisaism.
How horrible that Paul's quote from the Mishnah is enforced by men in the church, while Paul's answer to that quote is ignored altogether.
polly jetix this is exactly how I understand it. Thank you for taking the time to write it down. God bless you.
Very well stated.
Even if this flimsy argument is right, it does nothing to the overwhelming testimony of scripture that leadership is for men. How many women apostles did Jesus appoint?
@@555pontifex The church has been in denial for millennia of the evidence in Scripture concerning women in church leadership.
No, Jesus didn't appoint women to the 12, and we don't know why. The reasons could have been cultural.
Actually, this cultural pressure against certain male preachers happened in the United States 100 years ago. In the early Pentecostal movement, blacks and whites sat together and preached from the same pulpits .. but the blacks were threatened with lynching (by local baptists) if they didn't leave the white Pentecostal church. The early Pentecostal church was fully integrated. But cultural pressure forced it into a model less than what God wanted, due to safety concerns.
Mary sat at Jesus' feet, as he taught his 12 disciples. In that culture, women did not mingle with men. Especially did a woman not sit at the feet of a Rabbi!
That place was always reserved for a rabbi's star pupil, whom he had chosen to succeed him, as rabbi.
Martha is scandalized, because she reflects cultural norms. Women belonged in the kitchen, serving the men. As the MEN sat separately, discussing the Scriptures.
But Jesus reproves Martha. Mary was free to sit as an equal among the 12, and even to occupy the seat of one chosen for future leadership!
There are quite a few women church leaders in the New Testaments, besides the women leaders in the Old, such as Deborah, Huldah, Miriam, etc.
But of course, the Catholic church worked very hard to train Christian thought in a way Christ never intended... in many ways.
Catholics operate out of a "top-down" authoritarian approach. Jesus called this "worldly" and antithetical to true Christianity, in Matthew 20:25-28.
The whole male grasp for power and domination over women, is rooted in pride. It didn't happen until after the fall.
That's why God warned Eve "He shall rule over thee."
Just like every "curse" spoken to Adam was nothing but a warning of bad consequences of sin (and Adam was free to counter every one!)
Even so, every "curse" spoken to Eve was nothing but a warning of bad consequences of sin.
Adam wanted to rule over her, because he had partaken of Lucifer's pride, wanting to exalt his own throne, also.
Prior to the fall, Adam and Eve were equally given dominion over Creation.
Genesis 1:27-28
Adam was never given dominion over Eve.
He usurped that.
@@pollyjetix2027 thank you so much. Can you be my teacher. And share with me more. Its like fresh water hearing your explanation. God give you more by his Holy Spirit. And not that holy they call holy. God bless you
Older women likewise are to be reverent in behavior, not slanderers or slaves to much wine. They are to teach what is good, and so train the young women to love their husbands and children, to be self-controlled, pure, working at home, kind, and submissive to their own husbands, that the word of God may not be reviled.
you are listening to man, and not to God's word !
Why are there a woman mayor, a female manager, a female judge, female doctor, scientist? The bible also forbids women in male positions of jobs as they are called to serve their husband, breed as many children and remain in the kitchen.
Because of the devil and jezebel spirit is why everyone and gender roles are backwards today.
Exactly, Paul........a man, said that he suffereth not a woman.......NOT GOD.
@TrustMeImAScientist1
Just like this guy in this video! Twisting God's word to make it fit his belief system. This is Satan's work, not God's!
@@patricksaxon3983
Where does the Bible say that a woman must remain pregnant and in the kitchen? NO WHERE, unless you are a Mormon, who believe that lie!
As for the rolls of Mayor, etc, those are rolls that belong to the man, but MAN has made it so women can have thus said rule! So be it as it may, However, God's rule is plain. Women are NOT to take a position that a MAN must take. This is what the Bible says. Man has always tried to twist what the Bible says to fit their own belief system. Why do you think there are so many translations out there? There is only ONE translation that I care to read and study, and that's the King James Bible! There is nothing better! If it didn't come from the King James Bible, it isn't gospel! PERIOD!
People are so offended. Why did they all click this clip? Thank you Andrew Wommack for not shying away. But, the Western Church is just as discriminatory as African and other Churches.
You're welcome, Adidas! Andrew just shares from the Word. We appreciate your support of women in ministry. God has great plans for all women! Blessings on the rest of your week! - AWMI Team
It says a woman should keep silent in the church
This is THE most helpful exposition of what these confusing and flammable verses mean. This is why I already encourage people studying scripture to look into the original text, language and cultural context because that all plays a huge role in our understanding what was the heart of what's being said! Thank you for so thoroughly explaining all angles of this Mr. Wommack. Your ministry is a huge blessing.
It seemed Sarah had authority over her husband Abraham. Several times the Bible records that she tells Abraham to do something and he does it. When Sarah tells him to send away Ishmael and his mother Hagar, Abraham is troubled by that order. But God tells him to listen to his wife and do it.
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I Samuel 8:7-9
Andrew Wommack is absolutely correct when it comes to the *healing* scriptures. But on this topic, as one of my friends once said, "I don't mind if a woman is an elder as long as she is the husband of one wife." (or Pastor, deacon, bishop) He was being funny, but his point was the scriptures teach about *male leadership* in the church.
How Andrew Wommack was raised that women can be Sunday school teachers until boys start to become men is what I agree with. Boys and young men need other men as someone to look up to, to be mentors and leaders.
Women can still show leadership with other women and as mentors to younger women. Wow! Is that ever needed NOW in today's society. Where are the older women teaching the younger women? This is taught in the Bible but I do not see this done nor taught in the church today.
AMEN....!!!
Hmm. So I cannot instruct my son pass nine years old? When dad is not there I have to tell him to wait till his father gets home? Come on now. Things have to make sense.
For me there are two key points to bear in mind:
1) If you try to argue that women can be pastors, you would have to explain why the Christian Church (under the guidance of the Holy Spirit) got it wrong for nearly 2,000 years.
2) If you look at what is happening to the Church since certain denominations started ordaining women a few decades ago, you can see that the direction the Church is taking is not a Godly direction. We are seeing gay marriages blessed, we are seeing Churches saying that there is more than one way to heaven, that you don't even necessarily have to believe in God.
So what is more likely. That Christians got this issue wrong for 2,000 years, and we have now finally corrected the error and the Church is becoming more Godly.
Or...
That Christians got the issue of women pastors CORRECT for 2,000 years, and now we are starting to fall away from Biblical standards and many Churches are now starting to snowball into further and further error?
He who has ears (and eyes) let him hear (and see)...
I believe the law refers to the synagogue law of the time. Paul always spoke about being subject to all authority
What part of Christ is the head of the church do people not understand? women are not to have authority over or teach a man. This means that they cannot hold leadership roles in the church that are specifically ordained for men according to the word of God. Anything other than that is rebellion against God's word. That isn't to say that they can't teach the younger women.
◄ 1 Timothy 3 ►
King James Bible
Qualifications for Overseers
1 This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work. 2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; 3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous; 4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; 5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?) 6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil. 7 Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.
I wonder why we try soo hard to twist the Word of God to fit our own agendas.
Since when did he must be of one wife became she must be of one husband? Woman can be and do anything but not to have AUTHORITY over a man as it was and has been from the beginning of creation. Our families and the world will function better if we get to know our duties
Especially in the house of the day Lord.
Given Andrew was once Baptist, hearing him speak so boldly like this is only a testament to the power of God's word in renewing the mind. Thank you Andrew. If God calls me into a pastoral office, I'm answering that call whether people are appalled or not.
I hope you are a pastor now 😃❤️
Actually sure. It says a man. It says a woman and a man. It’s not saying what you’re making it to be sir. It sounds to me like you’re doing what is said in 2 Peter 3:16
I will not miss heaven because of aa man limiting my gift which was given by GOD.i will continue preaching Jesus and if a man can't take up his responsibility of leading and florishing in the work of God.i will penetrate through that limitation because what am doing is fufiling my asignment.
Judgements doesn't come as a couple.it comes one on one.that was in the law not in our generation of a new convenant
The question should be, " Has God assigned gender roles in regards to the church"? And the plain answer is yes! Case closed...
I'm a very talkative person and by the grace of God, I am spiritually inclined to the word of god... I think it is emotionally and spiritually better for a woman like me to be single missionaries than be involved with a church, much of this argument will cease, if you feel like "silence" is against what you feel like God has gifted you with in terms of the urging within you to teach others, either opt for a woman's only congregation or sell yourself to the Lord and take a decision not to marry and go for fulltime missionary work... both of these are according to the will of God and doesn't contradict the word of God and i have learned through experiencr that it will provide you with no room to feel offended in any way of any men in the church... many women find more solace in women only atmospheres where everyone is equally seen and treated within the boundaries of the bible and aren't emotionally scarred by men out of the will of God, there is very little room for unwanted discrimination and there is much more focus toward God and his individualistic plan for each woman in relation to the kingdom... Paul says it is better for women not to marry and so to focus all she is to the Lord and not anyone else in this world, there is reason for that, she won't have room in her life to worry about her traditional role in worldly terms as a woman, and only room for her role as a disciple of God in the kingdom of Heaven, completely sold out for God's purpose... that's a much more satisfying, self dying way of living, giving no room for bitterness or resentment toward the opposite gender and how they live their lives... if every Christian were single and completely sold out to the Lord, the kingdom would have seen a drastically rapid expansion that's for sure the only downside is procreation though... so in the end, to each to his own, even though staying single is the most effective way you can completely act out your individualistic plan in the kingdom and serving all his people...
Asku J........You can be involved in a church. There are actually churches out there who do support and acknowledge the call and anointing of God on the lives of women. Some of them are lead by men and some of them are lead by women. I have sat in a number of churches who had males as pastors who supported the call of God on the lives of the women in their congregations. The trained, licensed, and ordained these women and treated them simply as ministers just like the sons of God in their congregations. Don't argue with anyone, just gracefully and graciously do what God has called you to do, going where he opens the door for you to do it at.
Don't let another person's belief affect your calling. You can get married and become a missionary together with your husband. There are churches out there that believe in the ministry of women (Titus 2:3-5) (Acts 18:1-3,24-27). There are many judges but few laborers. God will really appreciate if you help in bringing in the harvest of souls (Matthew 9:37-38).
Stop advising women missionaries not to marry. You sound like an extremist sorry
Why people just won't obey God.
I do not have any problem with women cutting their hair, or not wearing a hat in church, or being a pastor and teaching in church. A lot of what Paul has said needs to be carefully and honestly assessed with common sense.
What are the 7 pilars of wisdom according to the Bible?
That is a great question, Kontrel! While Andrew does not have any notes explaining the seven pillars of wisdom, we can share the scripture where this is found in the Bible along with Andrew's commentary on that scripture.
Proverbs 9:1 (KJV)
1 Wisdom hath builded her house, she hath hewn out her seven pillars:
Note on Prov. 9:1:
"Wisdom has a dwelling place. She isn’t hiding. Anyone who is looking for her should be able to find her easily. Wisdom dwells in the Word of God. God’s Word is His wisdom (Luke 11:49).
Proverbs 7 tells of the adulterous woman who lured the foolish young man into her trap. Here, in contrast, wisdom is calling to all who will come to attend a feast she is making (Proverbs 9:3-5)."
We hope that you have been blessed by reading Andrew's commentary. Have a fantastic week! - AWMI Team
@@AndrewWommackMin thanks for replying the answers are in Proverbs 1:1-4 though they are not given in there correct order 1. Knowledge - written information from the Bible about The Heavenly Father's knowledge. 2 Understanding - comprehending this written information. 3 Discretion- being able to discern between Good and Evil, righteousness and bad. 4 Equity- dealing equally with people, when concerning the scriptures, regardless if they are isrslites or gentiles.5 Justice- being just at all times, until the end, not just when we want to. 6 Judgement-looking for the opportunity during the course of our day, everyday to apply the six previous pillars of wisdom until the end. 7 Wisdom- once we execute the previous pillars of wisdom we become wisemen, then we can operate out of the Holy Spirit to bring forth virtue aka spiritual currency. These are the points of virtue, the Holy Bible speaks of, thank you for your time. Next question, what is the law of sin according the Bible?
Thank you for sharing, Kontrel. We'd love to help answer your question. As a ministry, we are only able to provide you with Andrew's perspective. To help you do this, we have included a scripture as well as Andrew's commentary notes below:
Romans 8:2 (KJV)
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
"According to Romans 6:23, death is the wages of sin (see note 3 at Romans 6:23). Therefore, this phrase, “the law of sin and death,” is referring to the influence of sin and the resulting wages of that sin. Another way of saying “the law of sin and death” is “the law that when we sin, we receive death instead of life” or “when we sin, we reap the curse instead of the blessing.'"
- Andrew Wommack's Living Commentary
Kontrel, we hope that you have enjoyed reading Andrew's notes. If you'd like to find more, you can visit his free Online Bible Commentary here: l.awmi.net/LivingCommentary . Blessings! - AWMI Team
@@AndrewWommackMin This the law of sin according to the Bible, meaning how it operates. Genesis 4:7 " If thou doest well, ( meaning give firstling, acceptable sacrifice) shalt thou not be accepted? And if thou doest not well ( meaning give just any fruit, not first fruit, unacceptable sacrifice)sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire,and thou( meaning the spirit of sin) shalt rule over him." This is the law of sin according, The Most High, chose a certain group of people (Deuteronomy 7:6) to bring forth this understanding, so question, who are these people today? Thank you for your time, All Glory to our Heavenly Father in the name of the Messiah.
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