A small update from my previous comment: It's been a year since I did the subframe bushings, however I did the trailing arms and the upper differential bushing as well as the dogbones and it made a huge difference to me. It now feels like the rear stopped steering on its own and the car feels a lot more stable on the road, I feel like the front end needs some TLC as well in order to complete it all. Dropping the clutch used to give me mad vibrations, but now all that is gone. You might notice a bit more noise coming from the back end, but it's nothing to worry about. Polyurethane bushings is a must have recommendation from me.
Hy I bought the black ones. I tried getting the polyurethane ones but they don t have it for my car. Will it work with normal bushings ? Putting them on ?
Hi again mate, just did this on the e32: thumbsup. Followed your guide and it all went to plan, wtf! haha Didnt even try the oem ones and just bought the same powerflex ones and all good. Did the dogbones at the same time. Cant believe the difference this has made to the car. There was quite a bit of movement on the inner part of the original bushes. A tad more road noise like you said but well worth it as theres no more tramlining, tracks along straight and the handling is better as well, feels more stable all over. Now for my trip to the Nurburgring ring end of next month. Thanks again for the helpful guides mate, much appreciated: thumbsup.
It just took me 3 and a half hours to get ONE e61 rear subframe bushing out, using "BMW bushing removal kit" itttt was a nightmare....tomorow i will use your gravity method. I BET IT WILL GET THE JOB DONE IN 20 MIN. Thank for the great idea.
Method works great, I used 70mm diameter 3mm thick Steel discs X 6 as spacer as well as two collars from struts, could use 15 - 20 steel discs (available online pretty cheep) instead, steel discs came out of line on the first bushing, bushing caught fire, KEEP A FIRE EXTINGUISHER CLOSE BY FOR SAFETY, if it doesn't come out quite easily with moderate heat check alignment of spacer, do not continue to roast until fire particularly without extinguisher, other than that job went smooth, lining back up was a bit of a PITA but got there in the end, thanks for the video, great tutorial saved some wonga and was pretty straight forward, Top Man, thank you very much for sharing, Bless.
The rear end is noticeably firmer, and so a little bit harsher over speed bumps etc, but nothing bad. It feels better in corners. The only bad thing so far is a slight vibration which comes through at 30 -40 kph, but I'm pretty sure it's because my driveshaft is slightly out of alignment which will be fixed soon.
Brilliant. One change. I used a small propane torch instead of the heat gun. Took just a few minutes to pop the second one. Used the gun on the first one...took ages.
Torque specs courtesy of ethirtyfour.com: Rear Axle: Rear axle carrier to rear rubber mount: 77 Nm Rear mounts to the body (Thread free from oil and grease and secure with Loctite No. 270): 45 Nm
keep up the vids man! they are great and realy helpfull for guys like me, who dont have a ot of mechanical background but still want to work on my e34 by myself ;)
Hi again mate, gonna be doing this on my e32 in the next few weeks. I noticed in one of your comments putting new oem ones back would be a a lot harder, have you done this or how is it harder? Do they not go in so easy? Thanks. Was thinking some grease would help them slide into the sleeve.
+ronaldo ronna Hey mate. Yeah it would definitely be a lot harder using oem bushings, as from what I've heard you need to press them in from above. So, you'll need enough room to get the bushing in, which might be a bit tight, and then you'll need to come up with a way of pressing the bushing in while the subframe is still on the car. Maybe two bits of flat bar steel and booker rod on either side, which you tighten up slowly?
Hey mate thanks for the quick reply. Think ill still go for it as i want to keep the original feel, the e32 really is very smooth. Im thinking ill get an extended bolt with nut and 2 big washers and try winding the bush into the sleeve with a round head spanner then fit the original splined bolt. Ill let you know for future reference how i get on, good or bad! haha. All the best: thumbsup
Thanks for your straightforward tutorial Videos .. used most of them to fix my e34 525i.. i‘m surprised how neat your e34 looks like.. here in bavaria most parts under my car look like rusty chunks of scrap metal, you barely see e34 on the road these days
It's been a while since you posted this but my E34 needs the same work. I am not a mechanic so I could not do the job myself but when I spoke to my garage they said it could take over 10 hours. You don't mention how long it took you but I wonder if the garage includes removing the subframe to do it not the way you did it, on the car. And it would be easier for the garage since they can hoist the car up.
I am now seriously considering this for my 528i stroker, what are the pros of having poly bushings there in the rear? I do sometimes take mine sideways, but it's mostly a daily driver.
+Detective Malaysian Cancer First of all: hell yeah you have a stroker? How does it go? The main pro is that the polyurethane is stiffer than rubber, so there's less movement and 'sway' than with stock rubber. This means a firmer rear end and better response from the rear, I noticed my car feels a lot tighter during corners now. The other pro is durability, as you'll never have to replace them ever again because poly lasts a lifetime. There are some cons though, such as a harsher ride, and potentially more vibrations coming through from the road. I have a vibration that comes through at 35 kph now, but i think it might be because my driveshaft is slightly out of alignment.
I've heard some say that theirs lasted like 60km and they just went back to OEM. I'll take a look at the pricing and will probably add it to my to-do list.
It definitely did, I thought I actually have to remove the entire subframe and everything. I'm happy to find out that putting in the new ones is less of a hassle.
Great vids mate. Got a couple of these and an e32 and i dare say this would work on the e32 as well. Just wanted to ask, what is the top of the bit of tube you used up against to force the bush down? Thanks.
We're getting news about the explosion in Manchester tonight..I don't know how close you are to Manchester but take care of yourself friend..we're thinking of all our cousins in England tonight.
fuckin' riot and good info, thanks! my jack points are rusted through to the point where the weight of the car alone will shove them up through the frame (don't ask how I know, the memory of the sound is traumatic enough) so do you have any recommendations on good places to put the jack stands? I usually jack via the crossmembers.
Nice work m8 but you got away easy :) those bushings use to sit like h**l and an sawzall is the only solution any sagging door card next to fix maybe :)
sorry 'bout that...I was thinking about that right after I posted.I'm usually watching after I get off work,and I work 14 to 16 hrs a day,so I'm listening but not hearing.Well glad to know all you have to worry about is giant spiders....prehistoric snakes..and heat stroke! lol sorry again
This video is helping me in June 2022. Very clear and concise. Thanks man 💪
A small update from my previous comment: It's been a year since I did the subframe bushings, however I did the trailing arms and the upper differential bushing as well as the dogbones and it made a huge difference to me. It now feels like the rear stopped steering on its own and the car feels a lot more stable on the road, I feel like the front end needs some TLC as well in order to complete it all. Dropping the clutch used to give me mad vibrations, but now all that is gone. You might notice a bit more noise coming from the back end, but it's nothing to worry about. Polyurethane bushings is a must have recommendation from me.
Great method! Can't believe how quickly you did this job.. Why pull the whole subframe out when you can do this? Keep up the great work man
+Hans Ahola That's why I had to make this video! I used to think this would be a hard job. Will do mate thanks
Do you remember the diameter of that bearing spacer you used?
Hy I bought the black ones. I tried getting the polyurethane ones but they don t have it for my car. Will it work with normal bushings ? Putting them on ?
Awesome vids, I'm studying up after doing some work on my E32 and still needing to do so much more.
Hi again mate, just did this on the e32: thumbsup. Followed your guide and it all went to plan, wtf! haha Didnt even try the oem ones and just bought the same powerflex ones and all good. Did the dogbones at the same time. Cant believe the difference this has made to the car. There was quite a bit of movement on the inner part of the original bushes. A tad more road noise like you said but well worth it as theres no more tramlining, tracks along straight and the handling is better as well, feels more stable all over. Now for my trip to the Nurburgring ring end of next month. Thanks again for the helpful guides mate, much appreciated: thumbsup.
Awesome to hear it worked out for you! Congrats and good luck on the ring
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It just took me 3 and a half hours to get ONE e61 rear subframe bushing out, using "BMW bushing removal kit" itttt was a nightmare....tomorow i will use your gravity method. I BET IT WILL GET THE JOB DONE IN 20 MIN. Thank for the great idea.
Method works great, I used 70mm diameter 3mm thick Steel discs X 6 as spacer as well as two collars from struts, could use 15 - 20 steel discs (available online pretty cheep) instead, steel discs came out of line on the first bushing, bushing caught fire, KEEP A FIRE EXTINGUISHER CLOSE BY FOR SAFETY, if it doesn't come out quite easily with moderate heat check alignment of spacer, do not continue to roast until fire particularly without extinguisher, other than that job went smooth, lining back up was a bit of a PITA but got there in the end, thanks for the video, great tutorial saved some wonga and was pretty straight forward, Top Man, thank you very much for sharing, Bless.
Thanks for the detailed video of awesomeness may the bmw gods bless you. Cheers
Brilliant. Love seeing you show your BMW some TLC. Makes me wanna get one. (5sp of course).
+Darth Volvo Do it. Give in to the dark side... Darth Volvo
Thanks dude! Followed your video step by step and it was a breeze!
Very good to see some e34 DIY:s! Keep up the good work! :)
Thanks!
Btw how does the car feel with the new powerflex bushings? Im thinking about changing to powerflex on my car :)
The rear end is noticeably firmer, and so a little bit harsher over speed bumps etc, but nothing bad. It feels better in corners. The only bad thing so far is a slight vibration which comes through at 30 -40 kph, but I'm pretty sure it's because my driveshaft is slightly out of alignment which will be fixed soon.
Ah okey, so you think that it is worth it? :)
+kaya strömdahl If you're old sub frames are worn out then definitely! This is way easier than putting oem ones back in
Well...... it is that time now,,,of course I saw the video like twice before, always a fan of the videos. cheers boss
Brilliant. One change. I used a small propane torch instead of the heat gun. Took just a few minutes to pop the second one. Used the gun on the first one...took ages.
one of my favorite how to's! worked first try every time!
Great video! Short and simple, gives me a good idea on what is coming up for me. Thanks!
No problems mate! Glad I could help, let me know if it works out.
i can't get the pin out ... fml
the pin can be really STUBBORN
you need to give a good blow with small heavy hammer
+William How did it go mate? Get them replaced?
This is great! fantastic work, might give this a try after all
Great video and in detail, very nice.
Just tried This metod, works great! Made myself som wooden spacers from a 2x4.
+Odd Athammer Glad it worked!
Just did it today, best when use a torch to heat the old bushing .
+dimkk87 Agreed, that'd get it out a bit quicker for sure.
Torque specs courtesy of ethirtyfour.com:
Rear Axle:
Rear axle carrier to rear rubber mount: 77 Nm
Rear mounts to the body (Thread free from oil and grease and secure with Loctite No. 270): 45 Nm
I realy like all you'r vids ! Can you do an other about the cluch disk repalcement ? Could be great ;)
Thanks again for all thoose tips ! Keep goin !
I'm voting for this :D
+Axel Chevrier Haha alright then :) Let me get the manual transmission in it first!
+Emir Hamidović Well now I'll have to do it (eventually)
that's even more interesting! tell us how to swap a manual tranny
hahahah indeed... with that video you would cover most of the issues we are asking for.
Very nice job man!
+Infental14 Thanks! I read your comment in a sophisticated voice because of your DP.
Usefull video, and nice car!
keep up the vids man! they are great and realy helpfull for guys like me, who dont have a ot of mechanical background but still want to work on my e34 by myself ;)
+Alen Jersin This is the reason I make them! Glad I could help you out mate
Dude that was such a good method!
Thank you so much bro was a well done job
omg its fascinating .
really good work and video , thank you.
:)
Hi again mate, gonna be doing this on my e32 in the next few weeks. I noticed in one of your comments putting new oem ones back would be a a lot harder, have you done this or how is it harder? Do they not go in so easy? Thanks. Was thinking some grease would help them slide into the sleeve.
+ronaldo ronna Hey mate. Yeah it would definitely be a lot harder using oem bushings, as from what I've heard you need to press them in from above. So, you'll need enough room to get the bushing in, which might be a bit tight, and then you'll need to come up with a way of pressing the bushing in while the subframe is still on the car. Maybe two bits of flat bar steel and booker rod on either side, which you tighten up slowly?
Hey mate thanks for the quick reply. Think ill still go for it as i want to keep the original feel, the e32 really is very smooth. Im thinking ill get an extended bolt with nut and 2 big washers and try winding the bush into the sleeve with a round head spanner then fit the original splined bolt. Ill let you know for future reference how i get on, good or bad! haha. All the best: thumbsup
Hi Samuel, great work buddy. Can you do a video on rear CV boot replacement.
Thanks for your straightforward tutorial Videos .. used most of them to fix my e34 525i.. i‘m surprised how neat your e34 looks like.. here in bavaria most parts under my car look like rusty chunks of scrap metal, you barely see e34 on the road these days
+V A Hey man! Thanks, I'm surprised as well. Cars in Australia rust much less than over there in Bavaria because it doesn't snow.
best method found so far :)
thanks for the grat vid!
It's been a while since you posted this but my E34 needs the same work. I am not a mechanic so I could not do the job myself but when I spoke to my garage they said it could take over 10 hours. You don't mention how long it took you but I wonder if the garage includes removing the subframe to do it not the way you did it, on the car. And it would be easier for the garage since they can hoist the car up.
Thank you for the video, from where did buy it ?
Eline sağlık usta
Well done 👌🏼👍🏼
Great job thank you!
Where did you go to Samuel? I always enjoyed your vids/diys... Sold the 540?
Greetings to you from Iraq
+Bdr Krem Hello!
Love the vids bro FYI 👌🏻
+Ghohn Cheers mate, glad someone likes them ;)
I am now seriously considering this for my 528i stroker, what are the pros of having poly bushings there in the rear? I do sometimes take mine sideways, but it's mostly a daily driver.
+Detective Malaysian Cancer First of all: hell yeah you have a stroker? How does it go?
The main pro is that the polyurethane is stiffer than rubber, so there's less movement and 'sway' than with stock rubber. This means a firmer rear end and better response from the rear, I noticed my car feels a lot tighter during corners now.
The other pro is durability, as you'll never have to replace them ever again because poly lasts a lifetime.
There are some cons though, such as a harsher ride, and potentially more vibrations coming through from the road. I have a vibration that comes through at 35 kph now, but i think it might be because my driveshaft is slightly out of alignment.
I've heard some say that theirs lasted like 60km and they just went back to OEM. I'll take a look at the pricing and will probably add it to my to-do list.
+Detective Malaysian Cancer Fingers crossed mine last ok then! Good luck if you decide to do it and I hope the video helps
It definitely did, I thought I actually have to remove the entire subframe and everything. I'm happy to find out that putting in the new ones is less of a hassle.
I dont have polyurethane bushings, just the black ones . Will this work ?
thank you :)
+Ed eD No problems
What lowering springs are you on
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Great vids mate. Got a couple of these and an e32 and i dare say this would work on the e32 as well. Just wanted to ask, what is the top of the bit of tube you used up against to force the bush down? Thanks.
Its okay mate i can see the spacer is actually against the car body. Keep up the good work, lovely car as well.
Cheers man, I reckon it'd work on an E32 (don't quote me haha).
Yeah the e34 seems similar in a few ways to the e32 and quite a few parts are interchangable:thumbsup
does anyone know if this applies to the wagon as well?
Are these the street or race bushings? Just checked the site and saw that they have two options. Thanks
+Veight Rwd88 Hey dude, these are just the street bushings.
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Could you please give exact dimensions of that ring at 1:04?
+Creesic Yep I'll go measure it when I get home for you
you still have a wheel hop?
Was gonna do this until you didn’t film one part and needed a special tool. Dont want to mess up my car as im a novice
BTW... I want key chain strap of your channel :D start making those :D
We're getting news about the explosion in Manchester tonight..I don't know how close you are to Manchester but take care of yourself friend..we're thinking of all our cousins in England tonight.
+Ronnie Cagle Thanks Ronnie! Unfortunately I'm an Australian so I'm not too worried about it :)
fuckin' riot and good info, thanks!
my jack points are rusted through to the point where the weight of the car alone will shove them up through the frame (don't ask how I know, the memory of the sound is traumatic enough) so do you have any recommendations on good places to put the jack stands? I usually jack via the crossmembers.
how much did they cost ?
+Xw0rkS $100 US (and then postage).
Nice work m8
but you got away easy :)
those bushings use to sit like h**l
and an sawzall is the only solution
any sagging door card next to fix maybe :)
How do I get it
Welcome to Iraq, we can communicate with you in order to benefit from your experiences
sorry 'bout that...I was thinking about that right after I posted.I'm usually watching after I get off work,and I work 14 to 16 hrs a day,so I'm listening but not hearing.Well glad to know all you have to worry about is giant spiders....prehistoric snakes..and heat stroke! lol sorry again
+Ronnie Cagle Man thats a big work day! Haha all good, I take it as a compliment if someone thinks I'm from England. Don't forget the jelly fish
Why no shoes?? Great video otherwise 👍
bones of your enemies... HAHAHA
What’s your Instagram ?
Man. Do you have instagram?
+Emir Hamidović I do but with only 4 photos hahaha
Mechanical Fix you should have more. Instagram is a good way to promote your channel... What is your name there?