Reasons for coming off: 1.Regaining of the inteligence 2.Regaining of the libido 3.much more pleasure in life 4.Much more motivation, including motivation to quit cigaretes, and to train hard as f*** 5.Being able to feel musculan, manly 6. To be attractive to opposite sex 7. Having more charisma 8. Enjoying in alcochol 9. Being able to read and learn 10. More self esteam 11. More interst in life 12. Feeling pleasure in higiene 13.Caring about the diet 14. Living a f*****g normal life! 15. Not spending money on medications, cigaretes and fast food Reasons for staying on meds: No reasons😂
@@russellbyt actualy only reason for staying on meds is preventing ov the psyhosis to come back, but at this point I don't see any posibility for it to come back, because it was caused by weed, and doctors say that if I don't touch it it will not retourn(a big%). Still, I am not sure if it was psychoses or some kind of comunication with "devil" or something like that, because a lot of weard things were happening to me. One weard example is, when they were transporting me from police station to the clinic with an ambulance, they broth ford ambulance, and I sad, I am the god on the earth, we use Mercedes, not Ford. And during the transport, the tire cracked and guess what? The Mercedes ambulance come for me. And before that I was getting weard conformations that I am the God on the earth, and thats why I think it was maby some unexplainable force in the game, not only my brain cracked.
@@russellbyt Anyway, I don't want that sh*t in my life anymore, and I still dk weather it passed by itself or because of medications, but I don't want to risk, and I drink them daily.
My reasons for wanting to come off psych drugs 1. To improve my physical health 2. To feel better mentally so I can get back to myself from years ago 3. To no longer have to depend on meds to feel better 4. And because meds have ruined my life, it has ruined important relationships and job opportunities and My reasons for staying on psych drugs was I believed my mental illness has been so severe that if I didn't take medication I could not cope in society or feel normal. And because doctors told me I would never be able to cope with my mental illness without meds WHICH I don't believe There's hope Thank you for posting this video
I still don’t understand why Americans and Europeans choose Allopathy drugs to treat depression or any other mental illness. Homeopathy and Ayurveda is much better option in my opinion, also it helps you to quit AntiPsychotics like Risperidone
I'm on SSDI for mental health issues, I have been for 23 years or so. I used to use meds but they gave me unplesant, undesirable and unhealthy side effects. I decided I didn't want to take them anymore about 13 years ago. I've had a lot of pressure to take them at times, but I refuse. For me the best therapy is a safe healthy environment, low stress, access to a dignified quality of life & healthy habits (exercise & nutrition) I struggle still with depression,anxiety,sleep problems, social difficulty, intrusive & distressing thoughts but I never want to take meds again. Weight gain, strange physical sensations,shaking, sexual issues, flat emotions as well as volatile emotions and just a general feeling that I was poisoning my body. I've had trouble expressing my point of view, or having it accepted, or understood. Our culture is very pro-med and to speak against meds can sound like one may be med-shaming or in denial, and if a person doesn't need meds doesn't that mean they must not have mental health issues? (or so people reason). I've found my own ways to cope the best I can, it is still a struggle in many ways but I'm happy to not be on any meds. One thing I do fear is ever being forced on to meds , so I have to keep myself really managed well so that I never have an episode where I could give some over zealous psychiatrist the opportunity to do that to me.
@@russellbyt Thanks for the brave videos, and thanks for the reply. I find it difficult to discuss my issues with others because the personal nature of the issues as well as them being nuanced and hard to articulate. When I put myself in a position where I am talking about my vulnerabilities I feel really on the spot and usually don't feel like I'm being understood. I feel things like embarrassment, humiliation, I feel not well understood, at times from some I'll feel like the extent of my difficulties are minimized, other times from others it can feel like some ascribe terrible things to me or that I am some kind of danger, when I'm not...so all those types of stereotypes, stigmas and assumptions can be difficult to deal with psychologically. Some things I like to do that make me feel better are 1. yoga 2. jogging/walking/hiking 3. body weight exercises 4.practice the guitar 5. keep my mind preoccupied with learning new things 6. watch movies ... I guess that's all for now but thanks again and stay strong!
I still don’t understand why Americans and Europeans choose Allopathy drugs to treat depression or any other mental illness. Homeopathy and Ayurveda is much better option in my opinion, also it helps you to quit AntiPsychotics like Risperidone
I'm coming off Lithium for Optimal Mental,Emotional, Physical as well as Spiritual health...those are my top priorities. I truly believe that I can have a beautiful life as I am. I have done the groundwork..and I feel well equipped and ready to navigate my neurodiversity.
The “as I am” part is really powerful. Really looks like you’ve got the tools to get what you want and live life without all the interference. Should lead to great things!
My reasons for coming off, was I had been on them since I was 4. 25 years. I had spent so much of my life drugged and on so many cocktails of drugs that I felt like I had never in my life been given the opportunity to be WHO I AM. I had suffered greatly at the hands of these cocktails. I felt like I wasn't a patient. I felt like a lab rat at worst and a customer at best. I felt like the pills and the labels had dehumanized me. In school I got bullied relentlessly by my peers. I was treated like a disease. I was NEVER okay with any of this. As a kid, I couldn't revoke consent. As an adult? My parents and peers pressured me against coming off. Yes I was 18 and could legally make my own decisions. However, as long as you live with your parents, you're not TRULY autonomous. My mom was the biggest source of coercion. I tried coming off my meds at 18 or 19. As soon as I had any problem, my mom coerced and pressured me back on. So as soon as I moved out, I ordered my doctor to begin tapering and he would constantly, express reluctance and a few times I'd listen. So it took, me 4-6 years to taper off seroquel. I don't think that was the right timeline. I think my doctor was dragging his feet to keep me strung a long and on the hook as long as he could. Eventually I gave the order to stop it completely and THEN all of a sudden he's all for patients coming off medication. Whenever I'd call him on the weightgain he'd say oh it's an imperfect science and he made a mistake. I countered with my experience on another anitpsychotic that did the same thing to me when I was 13. I was 29 or 31 when I said this to him. So I said, I don't think you did make a mistake. I think you know about these side effects and have known about them for decades. This is nothing new. At that, I decided I had had enough. Enough of being an experiment. Enough of not being who I am. Enough of hearing naysayers try to tell me what I couldn't do because I was disabled. People second guessing my judgement and treating me like I was stupid. There could be no peace in my world until the control psychiatrists had over my life had been completely eliminated. Never to return. Then only could healing begin to happen in my life. Then only could I live a life that's true to my values. I don't value psychiatry and yet I was taking their pills. I could live a life, as I AM. I could be myself in mind, body and spirit. I was scared. I would ask "Without these pills, what will I be?" And the answer to that? Free.
Free indeed! Really profound and relatable ending. (Actually, much of it is relatable. For me, and I'm sure others too.) That’s a helluva journey and you got through it. Thank you for sharing your reasons, and I hope you’re able to now start having the life and sense of wholeness you’ve always deserved. Much love to you!
I’m so glad you are doing as well as you are. Given the unfortunate rollercoaster ride. I recently tapered off my benzo and antidepressant (at an impatient setting). I was loving my life for over a year and then the tools in my toolbox started to wither away slowly. And now I’m back on Lexapro, on week 2.5 and hating the side effects, but I know it will get better. It’s just good to know that there is hope for someone like me who was prescribed these meds at 14 years old. Going into my 40’s now and I’m hoping I make the best of my life no matter what!!
There is hope for us, for sure. It should only get easier with time to take this particular path. It’s already much more doable now than it was when I started the taper back in 2008, and even when I finished it in 2013. Far more resources and online platforms. Far more help. We still have a ways to go though, and it can absolutely be for the best to pick the right time to pursue discontinuation. It’s still very uphill. And the ride is especially fraught for folks like us who started the meds so young and didn’t get to develop a robust non-pharmaceutical toolkit for dealing with the ups and downs of life. Which can be a roller coaster in and of itself! I’m sorry to hear that it didn’t work out after that year, but it sounds like you’re focusing on what’s most important. I wish you much success with your life and much love to you!
You are so cool 😎 Its incredible the transformation you went through! Im on Lithium for over 20 years now. Tried to get off meds several times but run into mania each time what caused a hospitalisation (got forced on pills again) than crashed in a long and deep (each time longer and deeper) depression and in each cycle i was a level deeper. Started in University with some friends arround and landed in a assisted living quite lonely. Your story gives me some hope! Thank you! 💪
Been on a boat load of drugs since I was 16 Now 51 and I'm down to 5 different pills mainly for anxiety and depression and haven't felt part of the earth And myself for around 25 years And need to get myself back I have just found your channel and subscribed And feel so alone and away from everyone else And basically everything you have just said I hope you're videos help GODBLESS 🍀💯❤️🙏🏻🌴
You’re definitely not alone, Michael! There are so many in this community who know exactly what you’re going through _and_ we believe you can make it through this and reclaim yourself. Thanks for subscribing, and much love to you!
@@russellbyt Thank you Russell Your message means Alot And I am determined to get off all the pills and get myself back to my former self Or I like your way of saying it Reclaim yourself Look forward to hearing more from your series of videos to be helpful in my return Thank again And Stay blessed 🍀
As always great video. In my opinion what happened to you was pure malpractice, treating. SE with more drugs is just insane. I have a love-hate relationship with my meds. I know that they were important in my treatment, but doctors should prepared people to deal with the side effects and find support in therapy. No good psychiatrist wants pacients on drugs forever.
Wow, you went through so much. Please know that you are not alone. Many families go through a similar experience. Hope you treasure everyday of your life, it's a present.
Reasons for coming off: 1.) Blunted emotions/ anhedonia 2.) Lack of pleasure from orgasm 3.) Constipation 24/7 4.) Lack of motivation and interest Reasons to stay on: 1.) Fear of returning anxiety/depression and panic attacks 2.) Fear of withdrawals 3.) Fear of not being able to handle things 4.) Less physical symptoms and sometimes a quieter mind.
@@russellbyt For me, it was having 24/7 symptoms like chest tightness, feeling like I was going to fall over or pass out, tongue burning sensation, startling easy, always on edge and I'm sure there are others, too. I think I just damaged my CNS and brain from Adderall abuse when I was in college and eventually lead me to high anxiety symptoms. I wish I never touched any of these drugs, but here we are.
hey man, massive inspiration...im like 125kg because of anti psychotics and speak like im severely depressed because the medicine makes me super dull...but ahhh, found out i dont actually have to take it if i dont want to soooooo...im off it :) im trying to elivate my physical health by quitting cigerettes and cutting down alcohol to a minimum..the alcohol isnt really a problem but the smoking is tough to cut...small steps like u said its not a race, yeah...will watch some more of your videos and soak up a bit of your personality to help out with my own journey...peace brother, keep it sayn :)
did you fully recover from taking them, do you feel normal again? got off them 3 months ago and I still somewhat slowed, dull, muscle spams/tremors, etc. From what I've heard it takes several months to a year or more to recover from anitpsychotics. I've definitely gotten better but its happening so slowly I'm doubting that I'm even recoevering
You speak really well Russel, thank you for your content. I myself am in a hard place, where I cannot really run away from my family, who "know" what is the best for me, neither is it easy to run away from my psychiatric, since in Finland it is so easy to get into a mental asylum, if the doctor so decided, that a person needs it. Forced mental asylums are a thing here. But I dont know what to do, or how to get rid of the meds. It seems I must suffer for a few years, or alt least months, so that my family recognises that I cannot function with these meds.
My reason for coming off psyche meds: 1. I am 31 years old and the meds represent a dead end with its deadly side effects 2. I still need to think about my future and want I want to do instead of letting these meds rob me of my emotions, motivations, and everything 3. Taking meds for the long term could potentially ruin my life.
@@adriangraham1868 Sorry, I am not really out of the woods. I suffer from relapse in my psychosis and got admitted to hospital again. Long story short. I am on medication again and I think meds are not bad considering my circumstance and needs.
My son has mental illness with what u said I’m his mother and suffering with him I don’t know how to help him. I hate the medication they give him 😢😢😢😢
@@russellbyt I recon it will be negative for the second opinion I first went in on drug induced psychosis and then the second time I went into psychosis I was drug induced and that's when I got diagnosed. So I say it was the weed all along I dont touch the stuff any more or I dont drink so happy days.
Good job, glad you lost the weight , im having trouble loosing the weight tho its only been a month since i've gotn off the meds , keep up the good work, its really up to us!
The long taper, is my tactical weapon. On meds for 25 years, but always believed a better life without drugs was possible. It has to be done slowly, i tried once before and was unsuccessful. I want to know what im really like, i don't want to tremor, i want to know something about learning - i can learn about little on pysch meds, and to slow the retardation of my personality as my brain seems to watch, act and fail simultaneously. Thanks russel b you are ace
Your future self is happy to wait for all of these profound changes to take place :) There's no hurry, from a certain way of looking at it. I wish you the best on your journey, and feel free to update us on your progress every now and then!
@@russellbyt deeply grateful I'm gonna attempt to keep that in mind, thank you . also The Withdrawal Project forum. Any hints welcomed on posting - do I continue in this thread 🧵😁 or other ways? Have a great I'm guessing, night's sleep and when you get to read this have a great continuation of your day
Feel free to continue this thread, or start a new comment somewhere on the channel if you'd like. You can just comment on any video and I should eventually see it. Though sometimes TH-cam makes it hard and there's a delay or I miss something :( Hopefully that won't happen! 🤞 And you can of course post other places too and let folks know how you're doing or if you need help with something. Inner Compass/Withdrawal Project, Surviving Antidepressants -- anywhere you feel a desire to post 😀 Though I'm not as familiar with what it's like to post on those sites. I think Surviving Antidepressants has separate sections for each type of post. This may be true for Inner Compass too. Have a great night or day (depending on your timezone and when you read this)!
Heres whats up ...everything Russell says is true ...not only do mental health care professionals vary in their degree of professionalism so are subject to errors and guess who cares less than you ...im not saying they dont take pride in their jobs its just that there is such a huge margin for error ...anything a patient says can be taken too literally or misunderstood which results in who knows what kind of prognosis and prescribed remedial consequences...its often a case of the treament worse than the trauma
I'm 21 years old stuggling with schezoaffective disorder. And have gained 80lbs being on psych drugs. I found it hard to do anything and function throughout the day because of being on them. And I felt my mood drop because of the severe weight gain. I'm taking to my pschotrist tomorrow about getting off of psch drugs.
So sorry to hear about the weight gain. That and the other side effects you’re experiencing are such a high price to pay. I wish you all the best for tomorrow’s appointment!
Hi russel b? How are you? It's great to write to you becouse you felt what i feel now... At the moment i'm medicated by injection each month. I'm no longer capable of thinking but this is the last month becouse i will quit the psichiatry i will cope by myself and with the help of my parents and relatives, i'ts difficult to think now. I listened to you and you sai it too, that it was difficult to think. I also was diagnosed with schizofrenia but i only have the negative simptoms, they are tryng to make me believe that i ear voices now i lost my beliving to them after years that i passed on the bed becouse of medicine. I will fight like you fight untill ill get at least a bit better that's my objective
My family is a big part of why I’m on psych meds and I hear you mention your mom and step dad, do you ever feel any anger towards them? After all I’ve been through I’ve cut off some of the people related to what started my psych drug use.
4 weeks off quarantine stopped as found out my cholesterol was double what it should be I’m only 36 don’t want to take statins. Well done to,you I’m glad there is hope 🎉 also though mate in the back was blinking thanks brain
Thank you and I wish you the best for your own healing journey. There’s definitely hope for us. And I will neither confirm nor deny that the mannequin blinked ;)
@@Beautifulsubshehe I'm doing better, Not perfect but better. I firmly believe that if you want to improve your mental health and quality of life a good diet and consistent exercise is necessary. Forcing myself to eat super clean and exercise has significantly helped with my Bipolar. Thanks for the concern, Best of luck!
I know you’re asking Russell B this question, but my advice to you is to taper very slowly off your meds, using a compounding pharmacy if necessary, no more than 10% of the previous dose, maybe even less. I’m tapering now. You can go to survivingantidepressants.org for more info.
The best way I think is to find a little unconventional psychiatrist who understands that it is important for your health and self esteem to reduce or withdraw them, even temporary or re-adjust the dose.
I am young 28 years , and i noticed i don't have erections anymore at morning when i wake up like is normal at my age , then i have read that risperidone changes the function of hormones
I took medications 6 years ago to cure severe insomnia. 3 years later the panic attacks began. They are a nightmare. Took more and different pills for panic attacks, dropped out of university, stopped seeing friends, basically reduced to a vegetable, now I have depression and severe suicidal toughts. I tried to get off those heavy meds but the panic attacks return and they are scary and painful as hell. So I’m stuck in this loop where if i take meds i am a vegetable and have suicidal ideations but if i don’t take them i have so many panic attacks that i can’t do anything in my life basically...idk what to do .
@@russellbyt oh my god, thank you for responding. I tried taking off slowly, under medical control, but as soon as I lowered the dose panic attacks began If you don't mind me asking, how did you come off the meds? Did you ever made a video about how you did it? Was it hard? Sorry for all the questions I'm just so happy someone understands me:)
I went on cymbolta and gabapentin for my fibromyalgia. 5 years later I have absolutely no improvement. I also 100% sure i have some kind of Bipolar or adhd. I have a stomach hernia from the pills, i have developed a gluten allergy (which unfortunately I cant afford) and.... im still in pain 24/7. 😕 i have found only natural remedies help. And slowly 🐌 😌 im trying to taper off. And I'm starting to feel like i can feel the floor under my feet again....
Few things are as frustrating as chronic severe pain. It’s great that the natural remedies are helping. But I know it sucks to have this huge task of getting the pharmaceuticals out of your system. You can definitely succeed though, and the progress you’ve shared in your comments is so great to hear :) Very promising!
Hi there, Russell! Glad to see you finally made it. It's so frustrating, i know. I was prescribed with 3 types of medication which were Clozapine, Abilify Discmelt, Depakote. I was never on Psychiatrist medication before, once i was one them i then suddenly feel sick and i was on mental ward at that time, i was depressed i don't know why they prescribed me antipsychotics. Once i got off, i stopped them abruptly after a month taking the medication, however i did find domething that missing with me. . To me the unbearable physical pain such as Tremors & Hypersensitivity in bowel movement, i have really sensitive bowel movement. I can't functioning like normal anymore, Drs have given up on me and i don't know what to do. I'm still stuck in here bedridden. My question is, is that common when you have altered bowel movement? Which kinda too fast and i hate it, however i have read some of journals stated that Clozapine does affects bowel dysmotility i also had experienced severe constipation while on them. Also you said that you took Propanolol, was that even work to tremors in your experience? I want to know if they could possibly gone? Sorry for asking too much questions, because i have lost my hopes, i'm 20 i lost literally anything i can't live like this forever. It's too late for me.
There are many natural things to help your bowels get back to normal. I know charcoal is very good if you hav diarrhoea and arrowroot as well, its good to take these with maybe a bowl of porridge. A good kinesiologist can test to see what you need. Many people find just resting the digestion really helps and not eating for a number of hours each day.
I smoked weed after a bad break up, went off the rails abit was diganosed bi polar, then ocd and then scizofrenia i only have ocd the doctors dont know what they are doing.
Have you ever had your testosterone levels checked since coming off everything? Alot of these medications can lower it, and even levels within the reference range can still cause symtoms
I checked my t level, its in normal rages, not very high, 22, max is 30 on that scale. But i was smoking 30 ciggaretes a day, eating not very healty, masturbating every day, not training, being 93kg on 177cm, so I think its loverd because of this things, not because of meds. You have testosteron, I was 20 when i checked it. I noticed my beard getted a little bit dencer, and my chests getted more hair. I think you have enought test on this meds but you don't feel it because receptors in the brain are blocked.
@@Rotatez Pausible. In the hospital I was they don't test free testosterone. You definitely feel less manly, and atractive. I didn't say that I was going to the gym before the shit that happened to me, and during the terapy I didn't lose much muscle, my hand stayed 43cm. Weight training deffinitly doesn't feel as good, so I stopped till better days.
I've checked and I have in the lower end, but tommorow I am doing additional ones to decide on potential supplementation. I hope it will make the drug reduction easier but am not sure about it.
Reasons for coming off: 1. an utopia Reasons for staying on meds: 1. few doctors know how to make a retire plan 2. the withdraw is almost impossible to bear
Thanks for sharing your reasons! Your second reason for staying on them is relatable for a lot people. Can really turn taking the meds into an inescapable trap.
@@russellbyt so you have permanent nerve damage that can’t be fixed from antidepressants…I’ve been on it for a year and have been having bad side affects like Derealization and fully numb and insomnia and I wanna get off but now scared I will have permanent damage or already so
@@russellbyt well I’m going through depersonalization and derealization right now and idk if it’s the antidepressants I’m on or if it’s somthing els but I don’t wanna go to a hospital I don’t want meds lmao fuck that so any advice?
@@russellbyt I’ve been on antidepressants for 1 year now and I have DP/DR Im scared it’s from the meds and won’t go away or it’s somthing els but I’m planning to get off but I’m scared I’ll have to be put on another medication or some shit or end up in the ward
I came off them too fast. So instead of sharing the details of how I did it, it's better to share this page from Surviving Antidepressants on the best reduction rate: www.survivingantidepressants.org/forums/topic/1024-why-taper-by-10-of-my-dosage/ Reading that page is a great place to start!
Hey Chicken King, Give this page a look: www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/20161-how-to-talk-to-a-doctor-about-tapering-and-withdrawal-what-to-expect/
I quit my meds cold turkey and I’ve been disabled for 7 months , I literally don’t feel normal , all i can do is sit in my room waiting to feel happy again.. my mood is changing everyday and I don’t know if I’m ever gonna be normal again.. weight gain is another devastation.. pushed my family away cause they don’t understand what I’m dealing with and they think It’s just in my head.. I don’t know how to help my brain to recover faster from the drug abuse that i did for a year with antidepressants
Have tried exercise? Force yourself to workout and drink a lot of water. ..I take everyday one tea spoon with Apple vinegar. .it detox the body...read books ...and watch movies. .but exercise is the best. ..good luck and God bless. ..best regards from Saudi Arabia. .
Thanks 🙏 I’m totally fine rn i was too depressed when wrote this comment because I wasn’t studying and that made me really depressed, now I’m doing great because i got back to doing what makes me happy(studying)and of course exercising..
Russell I cannot agree with you More. My son got 9 diagnosis based on what he was...or he was off of. It is a one horrible experience. Please let me know while you were going off of the meds did you have a weird talk weird feeling or even weird behavior...and you still decided to continue to take them off. Beside the glasses you probably also have to wear thanks to the meds. My son was going blind on some. On some he wanted to jump from a roof...thank God the letter broke. Or he was ready to hung him self...on some. On some he was not able to sleep nor blink his eyes for 72 hrs straight On some he was mute for the longest time ab 8 weeks. On some he developed catatonia and he could held the glass with water close to his mouth for 15 minutes and not able to drink...The so called experts added and added him new mental illnesses even though they resolved after he stopped to take their poison. Please let me know how was your mind while you were tapering them off Did you laugh? did you talk to your self? Not because I want judge you. Just because I like to know if some of my son's behavior is normal at the time of tapering. God bless you man You are a good case to sue all of those who harmed you and took many of your life away. If there was a Hollywood actor they would be loaded with millions on such a case. I'm not here to tell you what to do. We all know that the good weather is for rich. So sometimes to be thankful to God and live a simple life can be more rewarded than to fight with the law that is working in their favor. Be strong Have faith. After all God will reward you in your everlasting and much better life. There is a such thing as ETERNITY. Those who refused to help you and did it to their own profit and name will receive their reward too. Read the book "Imagine Heaven" and always read the Bible.
Hey Miriam, I'm so sorry to hear about all the things you and your son have been through. I started writing a reply when I first read your comment, but I think it might be best to make a short video and answer the behavior question in a way that more people will see it. And hopefully be helped by it. It's an important thing to talk about, and this is one of those subjects when a video, even a short one, would be best I think, since I could devote a little more time to it and give more context than I can in a one-on-one reply. I hope you can understand and much love to you both!
@@russellbyt Thank you. Not everybody is brave enough to stand by camera...but maybe in future. Yes. It is not easy and I feel so bad what you had to go through. I think they trapped you on the meds...and then is no light to many...most of those lost people. You were brave and strong enough not to give up. I'm trying to fight for my son and always say to anybody who ask me Why? Put him in the group home ...Bla bla bla...you know. And my answer is "NEVER GIVE UP FOR A GOOD REASON" You are a pure example . Congratulation. You beat them up...all of those who wanted you to be sick. Take care Keep in touch And God bless you man for sharing.
I can really relate to a lot of what you said and appreciate your insights. Do you have contact info available for this channel to communicate with your viewers. I’m willing to provide my email or phone # but just not in the comments section lol
Hi Tina, I’m in the slow process of building a life for myself, but I don’t have to deal with withdrawal anymore and that’s great. So overall, I’ve come a long way. Thanks for asking! How are things going for you currently?
@@russellbyt I am doing ok. Mine was drug induced phycosis. Drugs like marijuanna, LSD, magic mushroom . Stopped all drugs including respreidone and olanzapine. I am a devout muslim so prayer helps too But sometimes depression overtakes. Thanks for replying. Peace.
Yep, and something similar happens when we’re discontinuing the meds and withdrawal symptoms are incorrectly categorized as the symptoms of a diagnosis.
@@russellbyt IV been on bipolar medication for 9 months now my sex drive is gone . i tend to have terrible chest pain that last up to 5 mins im experiencing pain in my head i have gone a week without taking any respirdone/respirdal nor any valporicacid nor benztropine/cogentin
I went off my meds, because I love my liver.... and kidneys. If ever I was gifted with a brain that works (i'm the dottage forgetful scattered version of schizoeffective). Anyhow. I have exerise to control my depression, was on Wellbutrin and Suzie Q's. (Quatiapine). Anyways if I had a brain that worked I'd be a Liver/Kidneys-oligist studying the secrets of these organs, so that wonder drugs or any wonder drugs don't dry our kidney's and livers up. It's like I'm a boozehound, But I do like the infrequent binge, of food. Cuckoo pills make me over fat and weakens my liver.
However you feel about your brain, don't ever give up on your goals and dreams! I suspect a lot of folks in various industries don't have the most capable brains (compared to what they wish they had) and they have to kinda make up for it in other ways. There's some hope in that 😀
@@russellbyt I see , I'm glad that someone can say that their dr helped because I'm in a support group and I don't see that happen all the time, you seem to be doing grate, keep up your good work and nicely motivating others. You should check the Dr Abaham Hoffer videos and website really interesting and logical.
@@russellbyt you are welcome. the same way it happened to my son , he abruptly stopped taking the medication and that took him to a second episode, I didn't know anything about it by then, but I started to do my own research and decided to take charge.
I still don’t understand why Americans and Europeans choose Allopathy drugs to treat depression or any other mental illness. Homeopathy and Ayurveda is much better option in my opinion, also it helps you to quit AntiPsychotics like Risperidone
The reasons are complicated here in the US, and it’s definitely not just a case of Americans clamoring for pills and finding all other forms of treatment/medicine undesirable. (Though there are of course folks who think that way.) The unfortunate thing is that our way of doing things has been exported around the globe for years now, and is becoming more common in countries that have historically done things differently and have arguably had better outcomes as a result. It’s truly - and tragically - a global problem.
HELPP!!!! PLEASE HELP!! GOD, PLEASE READ THIS I NEED HELP!!! I'm a 19 year old who had a temporary anxiety. My physician offered another anxiety medication like it was nothing, (i've previously been on chlonodine hcl which helps for both hypetension and anxiety). I found out it was a psychiatric(Buspar/Buspirone) :/ No talk about how to use it, side-effects, how it works. And never told me it mitigates the brain. Never said it was a psychiatric drug. The first time I took it, I definitely noticed a decline in cognitive-faculties. As I kept taking it however, I seemed to regain the ability to think, however, my memory and the way I read (I tend to be VERY high in IQ, and read chunks ultra fast instead of slowly linearly from left to right) were downgraded. I will admit I took them all over the place. I tried to stick with taking it at morning (4am when I wake up) and then another in the afternoon. But honestly sometimes I'd forget and only ingest one. I made a follow up with my doctor once after the prescription and he told me it's until my brain adjusts. He had some point in there because i did kind of start seeing to regain my ability to think creatively but my way of reading was still changed from fast to slow and my memory was still bad. I had a realization realizing wtf I was taking and realizing it alters my brain and noticing my memory not as good and reading linearly instead of how I normally read. I then decided to search this thing up. I found out it's a psychiatric drug that mitigates the brain and I just got so fucking scared. I started searching up "buspar lowers intelligence." I've read some posts on quora about people feeling as smart as they were before and on when going on even more powerful things such as SSRI's (but then everyone is different). And other people saying "well if we define intelligence as the neurochemistry which is impacted by these drugs..." you get the point. Generally I'm hyper-aware with my eyes always looking everywhere and ever since this medicine, it has gone away. Also, I stumbled upon these videos claiming that psychiatric medicatinos can be the devil for some people: th-cam.com/video/qTfuhKWWbGU/w-d-xo.html They say that it impedes cognitivie abilities, but what makes me think I can stay this sane is because my very High IQ (Stanford Binet 149) took the hit and I'm still able to cognitively function. I quit cold turkey. 10 days ago was the last time I took it, after taking it for 3weeks/month. However, I did not know that quitting cold turkey was a bad thing. No one ever had these conversations with me, and I really do feel like a victim :( I'm scared that quitting Cold Turkey will do brain damage, but I searched it just lists the withdrawal side effects as more severe. I just don't know what to do man. Please someone just tell me what to do to get out of this mess. I don't want to feel hopeless. Please don't put any blame on me, I admit that I was ignorant. In fact, I grew up in a bubble of my ethnic community (Mexican) and didn't really find out the difference between an entree and an appetizer til like a month ago or two. I've also seen other posts on reddit about brainfog on buspirone/buspar, and no one believing them. But I do. I'm just so scared.
IM on bipolar meds valporicacid, respirdone and cogentin/benztropine i hv terrible chest pain iv also gained a ton of weight,, i need to talk to you personally do u háve watsapp
Hey, I'm not able to give one-on-one support at the moment unfortunately. But whenever I do nowadays, it's usually through my Support Call service (which is a paid service). An announcement will be made on the channel whenever new appointments are available for scheduling if you're ever interested. In the meantime, I put a link in my other reply to you and you can go to that website and create an account and ask any questions you have there (it's a forum-based site). Someone who's experienced and knowledgeable should get back to you pretty soon.
Reasons for coming off:
1.Regaining of the inteligence
2.Regaining of the libido
3.much more pleasure in life
4.Much more motivation, including motivation to quit cigaretes, and to train hard as f***
5.Being able to feel musculan, manly
6. To be attractive to opposite sex
7. Having more charisma
8. Enjoying in alcochol
9. Being able to read and learn
10. More self esteam
11. More interst in life
12. Feeling pleasure in higiene
13.Caring about the diet
14. Living a f*****g normal life!
15. Not spending money on medications, cigaretes and fast food
Reasons for staying on meds:
No reasons😂
@@russellbyt actualy only reason for staying on meds is preventing ov the psyhosis to come back, but at this point I don't see any posibility for it to come back, because it was caused by weed, and doctors say that if I don't touch it it will not retourn(a big%). Still, I am not sure if it was psychoses or some kind of comunication with "devil" or something like that, because a lot of weard things were happening to me. One weard example is, when they were transporting me from police station to the clinic with an ambulance, they broth ford ambulance, and I sad, I am the god on the earth, we use Mercedes, not Ford. And during the transport, the tire cracked and guess what? The Mercedes ambulance come for me. And before that I was getting weard conformations that I am the God on the earth, and thats why I think it was maby some unexplainable force in the game, not only my brain cracked.
@@russellbyt Anyway, I don't want that sh*t in my life anymore, and I still dk weather it passed by itself or because of medications, but I don't want to risk, and I drink them daily.
Brother.I live the same shit
@@djordjedimitrov5375 did you recover?
@@jurajmatovac7404 did you recover?
My reasons for wanting to come off psych drugs 1. To improve my physical health 2. To feel better mentally so I can get back to myself from years ago 3. To no longer have to depend on meds to feel better 4. And because meds have ruined my life, it has ruined important relationships and job opportunities and My reasons for staying on psych drugs was I believed my mental illness has been so severe that if I didn't take medication I could not cope in society or feel normal. And because doctors told me I would never be able to cope with my mental illness without meds WHICH I don't believe There's hope Thank you for posting this video
@@russellbyt thanks I agree
Did u take abilify and risperidone and did sex drive return??
They try and make people think that buts it’s not true!
how are things going rn? Im really interested cos im going to get my hopefully last injection next month
I still don’t understand why Americans and Europeans choose Allopathy drugs to treat depression or any other mental illness. Homeopathy and Ayurveda is much better option in my opinion, also it helps you to quit AntiPsychotics like Risperidone
I'm on SSDI for mental health issues, I have been for 23 years or so. I used to use meds but they gave me unplesant, undesirable and unhealthy side effects. I decided I didn't want to take them anymore about 13 years ago. I've had a lot of pressure to take them at times, but I refuse.
For me the best therapy is a safe healthy environment, low stress, access to a dignified quality of life & healthy habits (exercise & nutrition) I struggle still with depression,anxiety,sleep problems, social difficulty, intrusive & distressing thoughts but I never want to take meds again.
Weight gain, strange physical sensations,shaking, sexual issues, flat emotions as well as volatile emotions and just a general feeling that I was poisoning my body.
I've had trouble expressing my point of view, or having it accepted, or understood. Our culture is very pro-med and to speak against meds can sound like one may be med-shaming or in denial, and if a person doesn't need meds doesn't that mean they must not have mental health issues? (or so people reason).
I've found my own ways to cope the best I can, it is still a struggle in many ways but I'm happy to not be on any meds. One thing I do fear is ever being forced on to meds , so I have to keep myself really managed well so that I never have an episode where I could give some over zealous psychiatrist the opportunity to do that to me.
@@russellbyt Thanks for the brave videos, and thanks for the reply. I find it difficult to discuss my issues with others because the personal nature of the issues as well as them being nuanced and hard to articulate. When I put myself in a position where I am talking about my vulnerabilities I feel really on the spot and usually don't feel like I'm being understood.
I feel things like embarrassment, humiliation, I feel not well understood, at times from some I'll feel like the extent of my difficulties are minimized, other times from others it can feel like some ascribe terrible things to me or that I am some kind of danger, when I'm not...so all those types of stereotypes, stigmas and assumptions can be difficult to deal with psychologically.
Some things I like to do that make me feel better are 1. yoga 2. jogging/walking/hiking 3. body weight exercises 4.practice the guitar 5. keep my mind preoccupied with learning new things 6. watch movies ...
I guess that's all for now but thanks again and stay strong!
Did sex drive ever return ?
I still don’t understand why Americans and Europeans choose Allopathy drugs to treat depression or any other mental illness. Homeopathy and Ayurveda is much better option in my opinion, also it helps you to quit AntiPsychotics like Risperidone
Do try Ashwagandha, Shilajit for your sex drive. Mucuna Pruriens for Dopamine and Choline for your brain which was destroyed by these meds
@@coreywiley3981HAVE U BEEN OFF PSYCH MEDS FOR OVER 13 YEARS NOW?
AND DID U ALMOST RELAPSE AFTER GETTING OFF
I'm coming off Lithium for Optimal Mental,Emotional, Physical as well as Spiritual health...those are my top priorities. I truly believe that I can have a beautiful life as I am. I have done the groundwork..and I feel well equipped and ready to navigate my neurodiversity.
The “as I am” part is really powerful. Really looks like you’ve got the tools to get what you want and live life without all the interference. Should lead to great things!
@@russellbyt Thanks Russell!
My reasons for coming off, was I had been on them since I was 4. 25 years. I had spent so much of my life drugged and on so many cocktails of drugs that I felt like I had never in my life been given the opportunity to be WHO I AM. I had suffered greatly at the hands of these cocktails. I felt like I wasn't a patient. I felt like a lab rat at worst and a customer at best. I felt like the pills and the labels had dehumanized me. In school I got bullied relentlessly by my peers. I was treated like a disease. I was NEVER okay with any of this. As a kid, I couldn't revoke consent. As an adult? My parents and peers pressured me against coming off. Yes I was 18 and could legally make my own decisions. However, as long as you live with your parents, you're not TRULY autonomous. My mom was the biggest source of coercion. I tried coming off my meds at 18 or 19. As soon as I had any problem, my mom coerced and pressured me back on.
So as soon as I moved out, I ordered my doctor to begin tapering and he would constantly, express reluctance and a few times I'd listen. So it took, me 4-6 years to taper off seroquel. I don't think that was the right timeline. I think my doctor was dragging his feet to keep me strung a long and on the hook as long as he could. Eventually I gave the order to stop it completely and THEN all of a sudden he's all for patients coming off medication.
Whenever I'd call him on the weightgain he'd say oh it's an imperfect science and he made a mistake. I countered with my experience on another anitpsychotic that did the same thing to me when I was 13. I was 29 or 31 when I said this to him. So I said, I don't think you did make a mistake. I think you know about these side effects and have known about them for decades. This is nothing new.
At that, I decided I had had enough. Enough of being an experiment. Enough of not being who I am. Enough of hearing naysayers try to tell me what I couldn't do because I was disabled. People second guessing my judgement and treating me like I was stupid. There could be no peace in my world until the control psychiatrists had over my life had been completely eliminated. Never to return. Then only could healing begin to happen in my life. Then only could I live a life that's true to my values. I don't value psychiatry and yet I was taking their pills. I could live a life, as I AM. I could be myself in mind, body and spirit.
I was scared. I would ask "Without these pills, what will I be?" And the answer to that? Free.
Free indeed! Really profound and relatable ending. (Actually, much of it is relatable. For me, and I'm sure others too.) That’s a helluva journey and you got through it. Thank you for sharing your reasons, and I hope you’re able to now start having the life and sense of wholeness you’ve always deserved. Much love to you!
yes thats one reason i really want to come off! to see who i am without the meds
I’m so glad you are doing as well as you are. Given the unfortunate rollercoaster ride. I recently tapered off my benzo and antidepressant (at an impatient setting). I was loving my life for over a year and then the tools in my toolbox started to wither away slowly. And now I’m back on Lexapro, on week 2.5 and hating the side effects, but I know it will get better. It’s just good to know that there is hope for someone like me who was prescribed these meds at 14 years old. Going into my 40’s now and I’m hoping I make the best of my life no matter what!!
There is hope for us, for sure. It should only get easier with time to take this particular path. It’s already much more doable now than it was when I started the taper back in 2008, and even when I finished it in 2013. Far more resources and online platforms. Far more help.
We still have a ways to go though, and it can absolutely be for the best to pick the right time to pursue discontinuation. It’s still very uphill. And the ride is especially fraught for folks like us who started the meds so young and didn’t get to develop a robust non-pharmaceutical toolkit for dealing with the ups and downs of life. Which can be a roller coaster in and of itself!
I’m sorry to hear that it didn’t work out after that year, but it sounds like you’re focusing on what’s most important. I wish you much success with your life and much love to you!
You are so cool 😎 Its incredible the transformation you went through! Im on Lithium for over 20 years now. Tried to get off meds several times but run into mania each time what caused a hospitalisation (got forced on pills again) than crashed in a long and deep (each time longer and deeper) depression and in each cycle i was a level deeper. Started in University with some friends arround and landed in a assisted living quite lonely. Your story gives me some hope! Thank you! 💪
Ru finally off???
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Thank you❤
To be myself again and live my own life 🙏🌈
It takes time but it gets better. Much love to you.
Been on a boat load of drugs since I was 16 Now 51 and I'm down to 5 different pills mainly for anxiety and depression and haven't felt part of the earth And myself for around 25 years And need to get myself back I have just found your channel and subscribed And feel so alone and away from everyone else And basically everything you have just said I hope you're videos help GODBLESS 🍀💯❤️🙏🏻🌴
You’re definitely not alone, Michael! There are so many in this community who know exactly what you’re going through _and_ we believe you can make it through this and reclaim yourself.
Thanks for subscribing, and much love to you!
@@russellbyt Thank you Russell Your message means Alot And I am determined to get off all the pills and get myself back to my former self Or I like your way of saying it Reclaim yourself Look forward to hearing more from your series of videos to be helpful in my return Thank again And Stay blessed 🍀
As always great video. In my opinion what happened to you was pure malpractice, treating. SE with more drugs is just insane. I have a love-hate relationship with my meds. I know that they were important in my treatment, but doctors should prepared people to deal with the side effects and find support in therapy. No good psychiatrist wants pacients on drugs forever.
Thats true. Taking antipsychotics for many years is a dead end without chance for development or only very slow one.
Wow, you went through so much. Please know that you are not alone. Many families go through a similar experience. Hope you treasure everyday of your life, it's a present.
You are amazing Dude
Thank you thank you thank you for your honesty and your integrity and wisdom
I hope you have a wonderful life
Thank you! I wish you nothing but the best in your own life! Much love.
Reasons for coming off:
1.) Blunted emotions/ anhedonia
2.) Lack of pleasure from orgasm
3.) Constipation 24/7
4.) Lack of motivation and interest
Reasons to stay on:
1.) Fear of returning anxiety/depression and panic attacks
2.) Fear of withdrawals
3.) Fear of not being able to handle things
4.) Less physical symptoms and sometimes a quieter mind.
@@russellbyt For me, it was having 24/7 symptoms like chest tightness, feeling like I was going to fall over or pass out, tongue burning sensation, startling easy, always on edge and I'm sure there are others, too. I think I just damaged my CNS and brain from Adderall abuse when I was in college and eventually lead me to high anxiety symptoms. I wish I never touched any of these drugs, but here we are.
@@russellbyt how did you find the courage to begin your journey of coming off the meds?
Did you have panic attacks before the medication
I know this is 5 years late but thank you very very much for sharing this story
Glad it’s helpful!
hey man, massive inspiration...im like 125kg because of anti psychotics and speak like im severely depressed because the medicine makes me super dull...but ahhh, found out i dont actually have to take it if i dont want to soooooo...im off it :) im trying to elivate my physical health by quitting cigerettes and cutting down alcohol to a minimum..the alcohol isnt really a problem but the smoking is tough to cut...small steps like u said its not a race, yeah...will watch some more of your videos and soak up a bit of your personality to help out with my own journey...peace brother, keep it sayn :)
did you fully recover from taking them, do you feel normal again? got off them 3 months ago and I still somewhat slowed, dull, muscle spams/tremors, etc. From what I've heard it takes several months to a year or more to recover from anitpsychotics. I've definitely gotten better but its happening so slowly I'm doubting that I'm even recoevering
I was anti psychotic free for a rough 6 months but I am back on them now. schizophrenia sucks@@onesai5555
You speak really well Russel, thank you for your content. I myself am in a hard place, where I cannot really run away from my family, who "know" what is the best for me, neither is it easy to run away from my psychiatric, since in Finland it is so easy to get into a mental asylum, if the doctor so decided, that a person needs it.
Forced mental asylums are a thing here. But I dont know what to do, or how to get rid of the meds. It seems I must suffer for a few years, or alt least months, so that my family recognises that I cannot function with these meds.
@@russellbyt Hey, well they simply trust the medical doctors, and their knowledge.
My reason for coming off psyche meds:
1. I am 31 years old and the meds represent a dead end with its deadly side effects
2. I still need to think about my future and want I want to do instead of letting these meds rob me of my emotions, motivations, and everything
3. Taking meds for the long term could potentially ruin my life.
How do you feel now that you are off medication?
@@adriangraham1868 Sorry, I am not really out of the woods. I suffer from relapse in my psychosis and got admitted to hospital again. Long story short. I am on medication again and I think meds are not bad considering my circumstance and needs.
My son has mental illness with what u said I’m his mother and suffering with him I don’t know how to help him. I hate the medication they give him 😢😢😢😢
Your a hero man, I'm going about getting a second opinion on my diagnosis wish me luck.
@@russellbyt I recon it will be negative for the second opinion I first went in on drug induced psychosis and then the second time I went into psychosis I was drug induced and that's when I got diagnosed. So I say it was the weed all along I dont touch the stuff any more or I dont drink so happy days.
Good job, glad you lost the weight , im having trouble loosing the weight tho its only been a month since i've gotn off the meds , keep up the good work, its really up to us!
@@russellbyt How did you loose the weight ? You have any hack tips? You look like you lost the weight fast
How do you feel now that you are off medication?
Wee you able to fully recover and feel normal again?
Btw your a warrior.
The long taper, is my tactical weapon. On meds for 25 years, but always believed a better life without drugs was possible. It has to be done slowly, i tried once before and was unsuccessful. I want to know what im really like, i don't want to tremor, i want to know something about learning - i can learn about little on pysch meds, and to slow the retardation of my personality as my brain seems to watch, act and fail simultaneously.
Thanks russel b you are ace
Your future self is happy to wait for all of these profound changes to take place :) There's no hurry, from a certain way of looking at it. I wish you the best on your journey, and feel free to update us on your progress every now and then!
@@russellbyt deeply grateful I'm gonna attempt to keep that in mind, thank you . also The Withdrawal Project forum. Any hints welcomed on posting - do I continue in this thread 🧵😁 or other ways? Have a great I'm guessing, night's sleep and when you get to read this have a great continuation of your day
Feel free to continue this thread, or start a new comment somewhere on the channel if you'd like. You can just comment on any video and I should eventually see it. Though sometimes TH-cam makes it hard and there's a delay or I miss something :( Hopefully that won't happen! 🤞
And you can of course post other places too and let folks know how you're doing or if you need help with something. Inner Compass/Withdrawal Project, Surviving Antidepressants -- anywhere you feel a desire to post 😀 Though I'm not as familiar with what it's like to post on those sites. I think Surviving Antidepressants has separate sections for each type of post. This may be true for Inner Compass too.
Have a great night or day (depending on your timezone and when you read this)!
Heres whats up ...everything Russell says is true ...not only do mental health care professionals vary in their degree of professionalism so are subject to errors and guess who cares less than you ...im not saying they dont take pride in their jobs its just that there is such a huge margin for error ...anything a patient says can be taken too literally or misunderstood which results in who knows what kind of prognosis and prescribed remedial consequences...its often a case of the treament worse than the trauma
I'm 21 years old stuggling with schezoaffective disorder. And have gained 80lbs being on psych drugs. I found it hard to do anything and function throughout the day because of being on them. And I felt my mood drop because of the severe weight gain. I'm taking to my pschotrist tomorrow about getting off of psch drugs.
So sorry to hear about the weight gain. That and the other side effects you’re experiencing are such a high price to pay. I wish you all the best for tomorrow’s appointment!
Thank you Russel! Helpful!!
Glad you got off your meds. Keep up the good work :)
How are the symptoms that you intially got the drugs for? Still present?
I know several people who are long term psych patients. They haven't considered finding another way
Hi russel b? How are you? It's great to write to you becouse you felt what i feel now... At the moment i'm medicated by injection each month. I'm no longer capable of thinking but this is the last month becouse i will quit the psichiatry i will cope by myself and with the help of my parents and relatives, i'ts difficult to think now. I listened to you and you sai it too, that it was difficult to think. I also was diagnosed with schizofrenia but i only have the negative simptoms, they are tryng to make me believe that i ear voices now i lost my beliving to them after years that i passed on the bed becouse of medicine. I will fight like you fight untill ill get at least a bit better that's my objective
Sorry for my english i'm from italy
Your English is great. What were your negative symptoms. Wish you the best.
Were you able to recover by being off the meds?
My family is a big part of why I’m on psych meds and I hear you mention your mom and step dad, do you ever feel any anger towards them? After all I’ve been through I’ve cut off some of the people related to what started my psych drug use.
I hope you're off it completely. I still have little of sun senstivity. Year and half later, but time will heal. I hope it's not perment for me.
@@Skoopyghost Better?
@@Epix989 I can walk in a sun now. It's gets to me sometimes, but it's a lot better.
4 weeks off quarantine stopped as found out my cholesterol was double what it should be I’m only 36 don’t want to take statins. Well done to,you I’m glad there is hope 🎉 also though mate in the back was blinking thanks brain
Thank you and I wish you the best for your own healing journey. There’s definitely hope for us.
And I will neither confirm nor deny that the mannequin blinked ;)
Ya man im complete hopeless, I want off the meds so bad
please tell me ur better
@@Beautifulsubshehe I'm doing better, Not perfect but better. I firmly believe that if you want to improve your mental health and quality of life a good diet and consistent exercise is necessary. Forcing myself to eat super clean and exercise has significantly helped with my Bipolar. Thanks for the concern, Best of luck!
Do yo still take medicene plz tell me i m yur brother from nepal
How did you do it 😭 I feel so trapped on these drugs
I know you’re asking Russell B this question, but my advice to you is to taper very slowly off your meds, using a compounding pharmacy if necessary, no more than 10% of the previous dose, maybe even less. I’m tapering now. You can go to survivingantidepressants.org for more info.
The best way I think is to find a little unconventional psychiatrist who understands that it is important for your health and self esteem to reduce or withdraw them, even temporary or re-adjust the dose.
@@ladyguinevere61 how do you feel now that you are off medication?
@@adriangraham1868 I haven’t gotten off my meds yet unfortunately. I’m still tapering.
I am young 28 years , and i noticed i don't have erections anymore at morning when i wake up like is normal at my age , then i have read that risperidone changes the function of hormones
I took medications 6 years ago to cure severe insomnia. 3 years later the panic attacks began. They are a nightmare. Took more and different pills for panic attacks, dropped out of university, stopped seeing friends, basically reduced to a vegetable, now I have depression and severe suicidal toughts. I tried to get off those heavy meds but the panic attacks return and they are scary and painful as hell. So I’m stuck in this loop where if i take meds i am a vegetable and have suicidal ideations but if i don’t take them i have so many panic attacks that i can’t do anything in my life basically...idk what to do .
@@russellbyt oh my god, thank you for responding.
I tried taking off slowly, under medical control, but as soon as I lowered the dose panic attacks began
If you don't mind me asking, how did you come off the meds? Did you ever made a video about how you did it? Was it hard? Sorry for all the questions I'm just so happy someone understands me:)
I went on cymbolta and gabapentin for my fibromyalgia. 5 years later I have absolutely no improvement. I also 100% sure i have some kind of Bipolar or adhd. I have a stomach hernia from the pills, i have developed a gluten allergy (which unfortunately I cant afford) and.... im still in pain 24/7. 😕 i have found only natural remedies help. And slowly 🐌 😌 im trying to taper off. And I'm starting to feel like i can feel the floor under my feet again....
Few things are as frustrating as chronic severe pain. It’s great that the natural remedies are helping. But I know it sucks to have this huge task of getting the pharmaceuticals out of your system. You can definitely succeed though, and the progress you’ve shared in your comments is so great to hear :) Very promising!
Hi there, Russell! Glad to see you finally made it. It's so frustrating, i know. I was prescribed with 3 types of medication which were Clozapine, Abilify Discmelt, Depakote. I was never on Psychiatrist medication before, once i was one them i then suddenly feel sick and i was on mental ward at that time, i was depressed i don't know why they prescribed me antipsychotics.
Once i got off, i stopped them abruptly after a month taking the medication, however i did find domething that missing with me. .
To me the unbearable physical pain such as Tremors & Hypersensitivity in bowel movement, i have really sensitive bowel movement. I can't functioning like normal anymore, Drs have given up on me and i don't know what to do. I'm still stuck in here bedridden.
My question is, is that common when you have altered bowel movement? Which kinda too fast and i hate it, however i have read some of journals stated that Clozapine does affects bowel dysmotility i also had experienced severe constipation while on them.
Also you said that you took Propanolol, was that even work to tremors in your experience? I want to know if they could possibly gone?
Sorry for asking too much questions, because i have lost my hopes, i'm 20 i lost literally anything i can't live like this forever. It's too late for me.
There are many natural things to help your bowels get back to normal.
I know charcoal is very good if you hav diarrhoea and arrowroot as well, its good to take these with maybe a bowl of porridge.
A good kinesiologist can test to see what you need.
Many people find just resting the digestion really helps and not eating for a number of hours each day.
I cant stand withdrawls its so bad im on meds 5 years and am 25 y old they prescribed to me for depression and anxiety but they only made it worse..
I smoked weed after a bad break up, went off the rails abit was diganosed bi polar, then ocd and then scizofrenia i only have ocd the doctors dont know what they are doing.
I took abilfy for 3 weeks and risperidone 1 week will my sex drive return please help me ?!
3 months to 3 years in between.
My sex drive has returned after 4 months
@user-xx1qd7th3g were you able to fully recover and feel/ think normal again? Was on risperidone for 6 weeks, 1 month and 3 weeks off
Hey did you recover fully and feel normal again? I also took risperidone and am feeling withdrawals 1 month and 3 weeks off, took for 6 weeks
@@onesai5555 yes takes ,3 years meth helps alot
Have you ever had your testosterone levels checked since coming off everything? Alot of these medications can lower it, and even levels within the reference range can still cause symtoms
I checked my t level, its in normal rages, not very high, 22, max is 30 on that scale. But i was smoking 30 ciggaretes a day, eating not very healty, masturbating every day, not training, being 93kg on 177cm, so I think its loverd because of this things, not because of meds. You have testosteron, I was 20 when i checked it. I noticed my beard getted a little bit dencer, and my chests getted more hair. I think you have enought test on this meds but you don't feel it because receptors in the brain are blocked.
@@djordjedimitrov5375 I had the same levels as you however my free testosterone was low, which is the form your body uses.
@@Rotatez Pausible. In the hospital I was they don't test free testosterone. You definitely feel less manly, and atractive. I didn't say that I was going to the gym before the shit that happened to me, and during the terapy I didn't lose much muscle, my hand stayed 43cm. Weight training deffinitly doesn't feel as good, so I stopped till better days.
I've checked and I have in the lower end, but tommorow I am doing additional ones to decide on potential supplementation. I hope it will make the drug reduction easier but am not sure about it.
How many different drs (or pmhnp's) have you had to give these diagnoses and meds?
Reasons for coming off:
1. an utopia
Reasons for staying on meds:
1. few doctors know how to make a retire plan
2. the withdraw is almost impossible to bear
Thanks for sharing your reasons! Your second reason for staying on them is relatable for a lot people. Can really turn taking the meds into an inescapable trap.
Do you take any meds at all now?and do you have trouble sleeping without a antipsychotic?
@@russellbyt thanks man I'm a zombie still on prozac concerta and zopiclone and seroquel sometimes I want off everything
@@russellbyt so you have permanent nerve damage that can’t be fixed from antidepressants…I’ve been on it for a year and have been having bad side affects like Derealization and fully numb and insomnia and I wanna get off but now scared I will have permanent damage or already so
@@russellbyt well I’m going through depersonalization and derealization right now and idk if it’s the antidepressants I’m on or if it’s somthing els but I don’t wanna go to a hospital I don’t want meds lmao fuck that so any advice?
@@russellbyt I’ve been on antidepressants for 1 year now and I have DP/DR Im scared it’s from the meds and won’t go away or it’s somthing els but I’m planning to get off but I’m scared I’ll have to be put on another medication or some shit or end up in the ward
@@russellbyt do you think I’ll be able to recover for only being on for a year or am I gonna need to go to the ward or some shit
How did you come off? The withdrawals are horiffic
I came off them too fast. So instead of sharing the details of how I did it, it's better to share this page from Surviving Antidepressants on the best reduction rate:
www.survivingantidepressants.org/forums/topic/1024-why-taper-by-10-of-my-dosage/
Reading that page is a great place to start!
Thank you
can i tell my psychiatrist i want to slowly come off bipolar medication
Hey Chicken King, Give this page a look:
www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/20161-how-to-talk-to-a-doctor-about-tapering-and-withdrawal-what-to-expect/
I quit my meds cold turkey and I’ve been disabled for 7 months , I literally don’t feel normal , all i can do is sit in my room waiting to feel happy again.. my mood is changing everyday and I don’t know if I’m ever gonna be normal again.. weight gain is another devastation.. pushed my family away cause they don’t understand what I’m dealing with and they think It’s just in my head.. I don’t know how to help my brain to recover faster from the drug abuse that i did
for a year with antidepressants
Have tried exercise? Force yourself to workout and drink a lot of water. ..I take everyday one tea spoon with Apple vinegar. .it detox the body...read books ...and watch movies. .but exercise is the best. ..good luck and God bless. ..best regards from Saudi Arabia. .
Thanks 🙏 I’m totally fine rn i was too depressed when
wrote this comment because I wasn’t studying and that made me really depressed, now I’m doing great because i got back to doing what makes me happy(studying)and of course exercising..
@@brokenangel2534 hello ! Will things get better just let me know.... I am also suffering.
Наргиза Карабаева of course it does get better , u just need to keep ur mind busy doing something productive
@@brokenangel2534 thank you for replying! What was your diagnosis and how long did you take medicine?
Russell I cannot agree with you More. My son got 9 diagnosis based on what he was...or he was off of. It is a one horrible experience. Please let me know while you were going off of the meds did you have a weird talk weird feeling or even weird behavior...and you still decided to continue to take them off. Beside the glasses you probably also have to wear thanks to the meds. My son was going blind on some. On some he wanted to jump from a roof...thank God the letter broke. Or he was ready to hung him self...on some. On some he was not able to sleep nor blink his eyes for 72 hrs straight On some he was mute for the longest time ab 8 weeks. On some he developed catatonia and he could held the glass with water close to his mouth for 15 minutes and not able to drink...The so called experts added and added him new mental illnesses even though they resolved after he stopped to take their poison. Please let me know how was your mind while you were tapering them off Did you laugh? did you talk to your self? Not because I want judge you. Just because I like to know if some of my son's behavior is normal at the time of tapering. God bless you man You are a good case to sue all of those who harmed you and took many of your life away. If there was a Hollywood actor they would be loaded with millions on such a case. I'm not here to tell you what to do. We all know that the good weather is for rich. So sometimes to be thankful to God and live a simple life can be more rewarded than to fight with the law that is working in their favor. Be strong Have faith. After all God will reward you in your everlasting and much better life. There is a such thing as ETERNITY. Those who refused to help you and did it to their own profit and name will receive their reward too. Read the book "Imagine Heaven" and always read the Bible.
Hey Miriam, I'm so sorry to hear about all the things you and your son have been through.
I started writing a reply when I first read your comment, but I think it might be best to make a short video and answer the behavior question in a way that more people will see it. And hopefully be helped by it. It's an important thing to talk about, and this is one of those subjects when a video, even a short one, would be best I think, since I could devote a little more time to it and give more context than I can in a one-on-one reply.
I hope you can understand and much love to you both!
@@russellbyt Thank you. Not everybody is brave enough to stand by camera...but maybe in future. Yes. It is not easy and I feel so bad what you had to go through. I think they trapped you on the meds...and then is no light to many...most of those lost people. You were brave and strong enough not to give up. I'm trying to fight for my son and always say to anybody who ask me Why? Put him in the group home ...Bla bla bla...you know. And my answer is "NEVER GIVE UP FOR A GOOD REASON" You are a pure example . Congratulation. You beat them up...all of those who wanted you to be sick. Take care Keep in touch And God bless you man for sharing.
Has anyone been on haloperidol?
Some folks have passed through here who have experience with it. Hopefully one of them, or someone new, will reply soon :)
yes
@@MoodooVanSpoon So what was your experience? I stopped taking it for 3 weeks now.
@@Epix989 Not very pleasant but did stop my psychosis. Did you taper off. i am slowly getting off it.
@@Epix989 did you have withdrawal symptoms? how are you now?
wow diabetes isn’t permanent what IM not trying to reach that point IM coming from 180lb to 240 now i need help whivch they not giving
Bro how did u lose all that weight
@@russellbyt how long did it take?
My weight gone after 1 month
I can really relate to a lot of what you said and appreciate your insights. Do you have contact info available for this channel to communicate with your viewers. I’m willing to provide my email or phone # but just not in the comments section lol
How are doing today?
Hi Tina, I’m in the slow process of building a life for myself, but I don’t have to deal with withdrawal anymore and that’s great. So overall, I’ve come a long way. Thanks for asking! How are things going for you currently?
@@russellbyt I am doing ok. Mine was drug induced phycosis. Drugs like marijuanna, LSD, magic mushroom . Stopped all drugs including respreidone and olanzapine. I am a devout muslim so prayer helps too But sometimes depression overtakes. Thanks for replying. Peace.
As you stated in the video the side effects are mistaken for diagnosis
Yep, and something similar happens when we’re discontinuing the meds and withdrawal symptoms are incorrectly categorized as the symptoms of a diagnosis.
@@russellbyt IV been on bipolar medication for 9 months now my sex drive is gone . i tend to have terrible chest pain that last up to 5 mins im experiencing pain in my head i have gone a week without taking any respirdone/respirdal nor any valporicacid nor benztropine/cogentin
I went off my meds, because I love my liver.... and kidneys. If ever I was gifted with a brain that works (i'm the dottage forgetful scattered version of schizoeffective). Anyhow. I have exerise to control my depression, was on Wellbutrin and Suzie Q's. (Quatiapine). Anyways if I had a brain that worked I'd be a Liver/Kidneys-oligist studying the secrets of these organs, so that wonder drugs or any wonder drugs don't dry our kidney's and livers up. It's like I'm a boozehound, But I do like the infrequent binge, of food. Cuckoo pills make me over fat and weakens my liver.
However you feel about your brain, don't ever give up on your goals and dreams! I suspect a lot of folks in various industries don't have the most capable brains (compared to what they wish they had) and they have to kinda make up for it in other ways. There's some hope in that 😀
How do you got to have so many different diagnostics when majority of drs don't even want to take the time to help.
@@russellbyt I see , I'm glad that someone can say that their dr helped because I'm in a support group and I don't see that happen all the time, you seem to be doing grate, keep up your good work and nicely motivating others. You should check the Dr Abaham Hoffer videos and website really interesting and logical.
@@russellbyt you are welcome.
the same way it happened to my son , he abruptly stopped taking the medication and that took him to a second episode, I didn't know anything about it by then, but I started to do my own research and decided to take charge.
Psychiatry is a dreadful con
People, who have problems with muscles? Wrong muscle tonus, spasms, etc.
I am struggling with this currently
@@Lau29Y what's your situation?
@@Гермес-я6ю tight muscles, tremors in one hand & tingling, itchiness as well, it’s horrible & am one month into it, what about yourself?
@@Lau29Y almost year spasms and rigidity at neck and big finger muscles at the right hand. But it's better, than year ago, that was hell
How about now, did you recover and feel normal again, I'm also struggling with hand tremors/withdrawals
I still don’t understand why Americans and Europeans choose Allopathy drugs to treat depression or any other mental illness. Homeopathy and Ayurveda is much better option in my opinion, also it helps you to quit AntiPsychotics like Risperidone
The reasons are complicated here in the US, and it’s definitely not just a case of Americans clamoring for pills and finding all other forms of treatment/medicine undesirable. (Though there are of course folks who think that way.) The unfortunate thing is that our way of doing things has been exported around the globe for years now, and is becoming more common in countries that have historically done things differently and have arguably had better outcomes as a result. It’s truly - and tragically - a global problem.
@exoticindiaa which homeopathy medicine help to quit Risperdone.
Jesus christ Russel. Almost sent to a group home.. Somethings seriously wrong with the system and the way people think.
ZZ TOP
Trigger warning for suicide? If I ever take a Psych drug again I will never be seen or heard from again.
It’s understandable to feel that way!
HELPP!!!! PLEASE HELP!! GOD, PLEASE READ THIS I NEED HELP!!!
I'm a 19 year old who had a temporary anxiety. My physician offered another anxiety medication like it was nothing, (i've previously been on chlonodine hcl which helps for both hypetension and anxiety). I found out it was a psychiatric(Buspar/Buspirone) :/
No talk about how to use it, side-effects, how it works. And never told me it mitigates the brain. Never said it was a psychiatric drug.
The first time I took it, I definitely noticed a decline in cognitive-faculties. As I kept taking it however, I seemed to regain the ability to think, however, my memory
and the way I read (I tend to be VERY high in IQ, and read chunks ultra fast instead of slowly linearly from left to right) were downgraded.
I will admit I took them all over the place. I tried to stick with taking it at morning (4am when I wake up) and then another in the afternoon. But honestly sometimes I'd
forget and only ingest one. I made a follow up with my doctor once after the prescription and he told me it's until my brain adjusts. He had some point in there because i did kind of start seeing to regain my ability to think creatively but my way of reading was still changed from fast to slow and my memory was still bad.
I had a realization realizing wtf I was taking and realizing it alters my brain and noticing my memory not as good and reading linearly instead of how I normally read. I then decided to search this thing up. I found out it's a psychiatric drug that mitigates the brain and I just got
so fucking scared. I started searching up "buspar lowers intelligence." I've read some posts on quora about people feeling as smart as they were before and on when going on even more powerful
things such as SSRI's (but then everyone is different). And other people saying "well if we define intelligence as the neurochemistry which is impacted by these drugs..." you get the point.
Generally I'm hyper-aware with my eyes always looking everywhere and ever since this medicine, it has gone away. Also, I stumbled upon these videos claiming that psychiatric medicatinos can be the devil for some
people: th-cam.com/video/qTfuhKWWbGU/w-d-xo.html
They say that it impedes cognitivie abilities, but what makes me think I can stay this sane is because my very High IQ (Stanford Binet 149) took the hit and I'm still
able to cognitively function.
I quit cold turkey. 10 days ago was the last time I took it, after taking it for 3weeks/month. However, I did not know that quitting cold turkey was a bad thing. No one ever had these conversations
with me, and I really do feel like a victim :(
I'm scared that quitting Cold Turkey will do brain damage, but I searched it just lists the withdrawal side effects as more severe. I just don't know what to do man. Please someone just tell me what to do to get out of this mess.
I don't want to feel hopeless. Please don't put any blame on me, I admit that I was ignorant. In fact, I grew up in a bubble of my ethnic community (Mexican) and
didn't really find out the difference between an entree and an appetizer til like a month ago or two.
I've also seen other posts on reddit about brainfog on buspirone/buspar, and no one believing them. But I do.
I'm just so scared.
IM on bipolar meds valporicacid, respirdone and cogentin/benztropine i hv terrible chest pain iv also gained a ton of weight,, i need to talk to you personally do u háve watsapp
Hey, I'm not able to give one-on-one support at the moment unfortunately. But whenever I do nowadays, it's usually through my Support Call service (which is a paid service). An announcement will be made on the channel whenever new appointments are available for scheduling if you're ever interested. In the meantime, I put a link in my other reply to you and you can go to that website and create an account and ask any questions you have there (it's a forum-based site). Someone who's experienced and knowledgeable should get back to you pretty soon.