Memorable K/S Moments (Movies)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ต.ค. 2010
- This video was made for the Movies I=VII recap of the livejournal kirkspock community TOS rewatch. This isn't any kind of definitive list of the top slashy moments, just a few that stuck out in my mind.
The rewatch is coming to a close now, but if you'd like to see past discussions, you can view the schedule by clicking the following link: community.livejournal.com/kirk...
Season One: • Memorable K/S Moments ...
Season Two: • Memorable K/S Moments ...
Amok Time: • Amok Time In Ten Minutes
Season Three: • Memorable K/S Moments ... - บันเทิง
Gene Rodenberry himself stated that Kirk and Spock were soulmates. In fact, he even said that if it were possible for the time they could have had a physical relationship.
The actors have also mentioned multiple times how Kirk and Spock seemed to have a romantic relationship.
It's perfectly fine if you want to call your friend the Kirk to your Spock without inferring you two are intimate, however you don't have to erase Kirk and Spock's rather valid romance to do it.
Thank you! ☺️👍Yes indeed. Lovely comment. ❤️I ship them myself.
I don't ship them, they are brothers from different worlds for me. And it is even mentionned in several E.U. books.
@@tomf3150 In the End its only up to Gene Roddenberry what he in intended or thought of Spock and Kirk's Relationship to be. It's clear that you won't find any clear statement or confirmation in any of the Books or else where, because CBS would immediately block that, just like in the 60s. The first Star Trek TOS Film, the Book, Gene Roddenberrys Statement in 1978, and the comparing of Kirk and Spock Relationship being similar with Alexander and Hephaistions, is far more, than you could expect at that Time. I'm just reminding of Th'y'la. Gene Roddenberrys own invented Vulcan Word, which can also mean Lover. So we can clearly see, that he wasn't bothered with what you want to call them, and left any possibilities open.
Let's NOT imagine what was NEVER depicted. Why isn't it enough that they were like brothers whose fates were irrevocably bound together. Kirk says that as long as Spock is with him, could not die. And indeed, in Generations, there was no Spock there to save Kirk.
@@KreativeSpinnerin Thanks. Your point is perfectly valid and I understand Gene Rodenberry's openmindness (sp?). I was merely stating that in my opinion there's more "magic" if sexuality is left out.
"Please, Captain, not in front of the Klingons." Literally the best line ever! X'D
from which movie is that Line? I like it of course...but I cant remember the Movie
I believe it's Star Trek 3 Search For Spock?????????
Leisa TheGreat I just watched it and cant remember seeing it there....
Hmmmmm...the more I think about it, the more I'm thinking it's not that movie but that doesn't make sense. The movie right after search for spock is voyage home in which nothing like that happens.......?! Could it be Undiscovered Country?! O_O
Kasanatsu1645 It's from Star Trek V: The Final Frontier. The stinker that Shatner directed. It does have its moments though.
tbh, whether you like it or not, they're pretty clearly soulmates. Jim would seem to agree, given how many times in the movies he refers to Spock as his other/nobler half, describes Spock's soul as being his responsibility, etc. whether you regard their relationship as romantic or platonic, you can never take away the intensity and importance of what they are to each other, a relationship unmatched by anything else in either of their lives.
(personally, I ship them, but it really doesn't change much whether you do or not.)
a person on the internet for a person on the internet that was a pretty intense speech and it actually makes sense and I agree with u on that
I don't get the need to infuse their relationship with another element that WAS NOT overtly depicted, and really not hinted at. Why is there a compulsion for people to label things...why not simply see the strong bonds of affection, kinship, and mutual admiration and respect between the two and leave it at that?
@@victorpradha9946 why not?
To me, it seems like a mix of, or halfway in between platonic and brotherhood or strong friendship.
I can partially imagine it as I had platonic feelings before (as a hetero though, but that doesn't change much I guess), for a few years.
1:50 It's not like Vulcan's kiss with their hands or anything...
Even better, *this* 4:04 is a definitely a true Vulcan kiss, no getting around it. They're trying to kiss through the glass. Let me go cry now 😭
it doesn't have to be gay, however, it is gay, no doubt about it
THANK YOU.
YESSS, THANKS, IT‘S JUST LIKE THAT!
No it's not just 2 adults that care about each other
@@BrianGillespey-qm2cz yeah, in a gay way
Not all male best friends in films have huge fanbases that want them to be a couple. In Star Trek KirkxBones is seen as a platonic bromance pairing by most people. Same with HarryxRon from Harry Potter, BrucexTony from the Avengers, HanxLuke from Star Wars, etc. Point being that people don't see the potential for deeper relationships in ALL male TV friendships. Dislike it all you want but the Kirk/Spock fanbase exists for a reason.
Mie R exactly. If Han and Luke were doing half the shit Spock and Kirk do they'd be likely shipped together as well.
Besides, let us not forget that K/S came first. This theory came up in the early 70s. There was even a time when, if you said 'slash', you were referring particularly to Kirk and Spock as a romantic couple. The other pairings all came later. If you think about how rarely people questioned someone's sexual orientation back then...
Also, thank you for the remark on Bones! So true!
There are some iconic male/male fan pairings through history. Kirk/Spock is one of the most iconic. Sherlock Holmes/John Watson is another one. Both these pairings share a deep intimate connection - they are both closer to each other than to anyone else. There doesn't have to be a sexual implication because that's largely irrelevant. They can all be celibate for all we care - as long as they're together. That's the true romance "fangirls" are after.
Well said. In this case I’m unsure whether their relationship is sexual or not. Vulcans kiss by touching their fingertips, but Spock and Kirk have held hands several times so I’m not sure what to make of that.
These two, I swear. SO MANY FEELS. I always felt that what these two had was way beyond romantic or best friends, it was just something so special, so amazing.
I don't understand some people. Spirk isn't considered to be the very first slash pairing for nothing. But if some of you need a reason to believe (other than the actual show and the movies), remember that Gene invented the word "thyla" to describe Kirk and Spock's relationship. The word means "Brother/friend/LOVER". The only pairing who's ever been describe as thyla in ST is Spirk. So...
has anyone mentioned the moments in the fourth movie, especially at the very end when the cast lands in the water? Spock smiles his butt off and playfully tanks Kirk into the water :D
Isn't it wonderful that they caught one of the many pranks on film? Usually it was Shatner who did the pranks but THIS time...Nimoy got him! :-)
I love ur undertaker pfp :3
It was actually not in the script, the actors just played in the water and Nimoy (he directed that movie as well) chose this scene above the scripted one because it showed their happiness rather than telling about it in dialogue.
Spock always seems to forget he's half human.
No, He always tries to forget he's half human.
REST IN PEACE, MR. NIMOY!! YOU WERE A TRUE GENTLEMEN!
Not in front of the Klingons Jim!
Keep in mind that stoic Mr Spock expresses more emotional toward Jim than he does toward his own (human) MOTHER! And even if it's non-romantic, Kirk is closer to Spock than he has ever been with any women he has been sexually involved with.
Imo, they are way to close to each other just to be friends or lovers. They're soulmates. And unless I always get it wrong, there is a lot of sexual tension..
can we all get over ourselves? dude it's 2016. if you dont think they have romantic feelings for eachother FINE. but if you do thats you. lets just all agree that they love eachother like no other. no arguments needed. and yes people who seek out spirk pairing videos just to leave anti comments...you probably have something better to do than insult other peoples opinions..right? At least i assume. Never click on a fucking slash(see here: /) vid if you dont want to see it. Simple.
Hear, hear.
The bromance is so obvious it hurts.
Journal of Atlas
You mean romance, right.
@@celestinebuendia The b is silent 😆
Nope, bromance.
@@tomf3150You do realize they're canonically soulmates, right? They also canonically kiss? Probably unintentionally on Kirk's part, but Spock is very much aware.
Memorable K/S moments in the movies: the entirety of Star Trek III
"That green blooded son of a bitch , this is revenge for all those arguments he lost" bones fucking kills me XD
I have to sit through this every night watching Star Trek, and trying desperately not to squeal
omg the whole time they're sitting there holding hands at that one part all I can think is HOLY DERP VULCANS KISS WITH THEIR HANDS DO YOU KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON HERE? ahhh my favorite coupleeee...
MY FEELS.
*cryring*
@AliceInWonderland85 That's certainly one interpretation of their relationship, however when Gene Roddenberry coined the word "t'hy'la" to describe Kirk and Spock's relationship, he said it translated to "lover", as well as "friend" and "brother", so some fans' interpretation of their relationship as sexual or romantic in nature is really just as valid.
From a Vulcan point o view, what happens at 4:04 is the equivalent of a kiss through the glass, right?
they are trying to touch full palm to full palm here.
as far as i know, spocks parents were kissing by touching the tips of their 2nd and 3rd fingers.
and spocks family s adopted daughter saavik sort of french kissed him when his body was so rapidly regrowing from a baby to an adult that he had to go trough ponfarr again, and there was only her and kirks son there so she had to "sate the fires" as it were to save his life, by touching his hands backside by again the tips of her two fingers....
so i have no idea what this two are doing here.
i would like to know if spock or any other vulcan was ever portrayed in a scene full palm touching. maybe there is and i dont know. but that would make spocks parents s touching not a kiss but a peck at the cheek or forehead. and saaviks kiss (a ponfarr kiss mind you) is a kiss on the lips. and that still would make this a heavy petting.
@LueMeldane Yes. In one episode of the series Spock has to seduce a Romulan commander, and they kiss by doing exactly that.
@@ismata3274 Yeah, Kirk and Spock have the most intimate moments from how they hold hands. I don’t know if they did it intentionally or if they just forgot that Vulcans kiss with their hands or if holding hands like this means something else??
In The Voyage Home, Spock and Sybok lightly press their hands together in a ta'al shape near the end of the movie. With Spock and the Romulan commander, they also have their hands together in the ta'al shape, but they rub their hands together for an extended amount of time. And Sarek and Amanda pressed their fore and middle fingers to the other's to express affection and the nature of their relationship. So, I assume the ta'al rubbing is like making out, pressing the ta'al briefly to someone else's is like a farewell hug for family members, and touching the fore and middle fingers to someone else's is like a chaste kiss on the lips. So, at 4:04 it could have been a kiss or what Spock did with Sybok. But when Jim surrounds Spock's hand with both of his hands, I have to assume that that is the Vulcan equivalent of, like, passionate French kissing; or at least something very intimate.
Anyone else pick up on the whole movie 3 undertones? Sarek is SURE spocks soul is *in* kirk, but it’s really in bones. Then Kirk sacrifices the Enterprise to find Spock, despite the entire premise of tos/tas being ‘Kirk loves his ship more than anything’. I SHIP IT HARD.
Having in mind Michael's recent explanation about Vulcans overcompensating in public when it comes to close relationships makes the first scene so much funnier :D. Jim is swooning there, and Spock is actively ignoring him with the equal intensity :D. And I'm assuming the harder the Vulcan is overcompensating, the stronger the underlying impulse is, so yeah, here you have it :D.
Please Captain, not in front of the Klingons...He was totally gonna kiss him if Spock had not stopped him
And it certainly wasn’t the first time those moves were made. Spock knew exactly where this was going!
Awee. Their love makes me shed a tear. The mindmeld with Sarek was especially a moment that just made me choke up. God. I love these two.
thanks for sharing
He loves the hell out of that man. ♥
Don’t know which you are talking about and that makes it all the better
I forbade the watching of the Wrath of Khan for my own mental wellbeing. Now I'm say here in tears.
When I watched it I burst into tears, took some time to collect myself and then put on the search for Spock, which starts by repeating the scene and I cried again.
Do I think they ever were sexually involved together or something? No. But romantic love doesn't necessarily involve sex. Doesn't matter if you see them as lovers or friends, there's no doubt that they were the most important person in each other's lives. And that's enough for me.
Their had mind meld several times in the serie. They shared everything, memories from their lives before starfleet, hopes, fears...Spock never had a mind meld with his father, but Kirk did. They know each other better than themselves. Kirk is the only human being Spock trusts enough to share the emotions being the vulcan logic. They are like twin brothers, they are part of each other.
Bringing sex in that feels like the cheap solution.
Can't explain it better.
1:57-2:04 That is so clearly slash. Anyone who can't see it is blind. People who are "just friends" don't hold hands like that, nor do they say such romantic things to each other. And that little nod they give each other.....
0:15 How does WIlliam Shatner manage to turn "Spock" into a two-syllable name? "Spppp-ock!"
Ugh just look at that Vulcan hand-porn. 4:03
It just makes that scene so much fucking sadder. They're trying to kiss, just look at them, and they can't because of that stupid glass! My fucking EMOTIONS, I tell you.
Ouch. Thanks for breaking my heart over this movie yet again. Everytime I remember that's a Vulcan kiss a peice of my heart snaps off 💔😭
:( spock's death makes me cry every time!!!!!!
I am and always shall be, your friend❤️💚🖖🏼
The general rule is that a ship needs a / in it whilst a friendship vid will include a & or a +. Of course, this doesn't mean there won't be slashers commenting on those vids (or non-slashers commenting on slash vids). Not everything is that black and white. Plenty of people who love platonic K + S vids watch slash vids as long as they're not overly sexual and/or romantic. Some people seem to get irrationally offended when meeting people with different views to their own though. :/ Their loss...
"I have been and shallow always be yours."
*collective screaming*
i love the scrapbook style of the video. wonderful job.
"I have 5 brothers and sisters, and nothing I feel for them will EVER compare to Spock an Kirk's relationship." Then I feel sorry for you.
Trekfreek
Nah.
Thank you! There's always a tendency to dismiss people as just beings "slash fangirls" or whatever but there's nothing wrong with people interpreting the relationship that way, especially when the two character obviously have a very deep bond.
T'Hy'La my friends.... Friend/brother/lover
Screw it...
IM A SPIRK FANGIRL EVERYONE. DEAL WITH IT I SHIP ALOT. 😁
You're not alone. 😁
You don't have to call it "plagued". It's just one interpretation. In any case, even most brothers don't share that many meaningful looks with each other or are that open with each other (Especially when one of them is stoic Mr Spock). You can't really blame people for seeing it as being sexually charged. It's either sub-text romantic or it's a super-dooper bromance. In any case, it's very sweet to watch. Especially since Shatner and Nimoy are friends in real life.
Most brothers never shared their mind with each other.
@AliceInWonderland85 Well, t'hy'la does mean friend, brother AND/or lover! There must be a reason they invented that word, don't you think?
❤
@AliceInWonderland85 It is noteworthy however that in decades past, when being in a relationship or being attracted to someone of the same sex was entirely unacceptable, it was commonplace for two men in a "gay" (in quotations because it is my belief that kirk and Spock are both bisexual, but in love with each other) to refer to each other as "brothers." So back in the 60s when Star Trek started, it was a way to be somewhat subtle about the nature of their relationship.
8:43 'm laughing omg ; u ;
I watched this movie with my dad the other night and we both broke up laughing when that happened. He even gave me a grin and said, "Bromance!" I had trouble not saying, "the 'b' is silent" ...😏
0:17 "Yes, I've missed you too, Spock. Good to see you."
"Not in front of the Klingons!"
LOL.
Picked some very good moments from the Films I-VI
While it's certainly not hard to see the "Ho Yay" aspect of their relationship, I've never thought they were actually gay for each other.
Either way, though, it's a good collection of Kirk/Spock scenes. Thanks for putting them up!
If one subscribes to the books as being valid, in the book "Avenger", it is said that Kirk and Spock were both sons of Sarek: Kirk of his mind, and Spock of his DNA, essentially.
Right. And they shared mind so often they are part of each other. In TNG when Spock mentions cowboy tactics, you know what he thinks.
Such wonderful moments!
oW MY HEART
We know we are, that's what makes the K/S pairing so loveable ^_^
I have been and always shall be your friend. Greatest emotional Quote from Mr. Spock
spoiler love how like the scene at 4:04 is mirrored in the new movie with the roles reversed, nice reference
Okay, anyone who says they arent in love is fucking blind. I mean, really.
thank you for your service
"I find that remark insulting." *in Spock voice*
Sir, I have no reason to stand here and be insulted.
They could be or they could not be. It's open for interpretation. If you feel uncomfortable with people seeing it as romantic that's your own problem.
THIS IS AMAZING!!!
Obviously they're not all there, but still.... AMAZING!!!! *swoon*
@spookyfbi8
Well, to me they don't have a sexual relationship, but it's still love. The one, true love. Nobody ever said, that love has to be sexual. It's platonic, but so what? They are closer than most husbands and their wives. ( Actually I think that they COULD have a sexual relationship as well, if Spock wouldn't be ... well ... Spock. I don't think, he ever would, not because he wouldn't want, but just because he's too much Vulcan. )
@FurorVikingorum: Who are David an Johnathon???
2:40 If somebody considers someone else a friend then they cannot be completely devoid of emotion as Spock claims to be. It's illogical!
@IDontKnoWhaThatMeans I just saw this and squeaked "Problem!" at an impossibly high octave. I love you!
@AliceInWonderland85 Also, generally when you look at vids labelled "Kirk/Spock", they are pairing videos. If you want friendship, I'd suggest looking for K&S videos opposed to K/S.
the music that plays in the beginning like even the MUSIC doesn't sound like music people use when two friends see each other.
Love it.
Dear god so many feelings right now.
so in other words tyhla means love and we all know love has different meanings. romantic love/sibling love/ friendship love/ parental love. the list goes on but the thing is this we all know that kirk and spock were sexually and romantic involved with women. it is not fair either for many slash fans to keep dismissing that.
Surely everyone by now knows that Jim is pansexual?!?
Dismissing what? Bisexuality exists 💀
could someone explain the second scene for me? always had issues understanding the meaning behind spock's words.
I believe that, after his experiences Spock had made during the Kolinahr on Vulcan, to erase his Human Side, he finally learned through his Mind Meld with V'Ger, how cold and lonely, an Existence without Feelings, especially Love would be. I'm highlighting the Word "Love" here in particularly, because we can see, how V'Ger, learns through the Couple Decker and Ilia, what it was actually missing the whole Time, and why both of them, complete V'Ger towards the End of the Film. In my honest Opinion, the Parallels between Ilia /Decker and Kirk/Spock, lead to the Conclusion, that they are mirroring K/S, to reveal something about them. If it would have been simply Friendship, Spock could have said it without hesitation. And the Fact, that The Motion Picture, was also the last Film Roddenberry was totally in Control of mostly, should say enough. Also, even though Books supposedly aren't Canon, the T'hyla Word, only appeared in the Book of this Film, written by Gene Roddenberry. ❤
Well, there's a debate as to the exact nature of David and Jonathan's relationship, but not everyone agrees that they were platonic.
None from "The Voyage Home"?
I like Kirk and all, but I don't understand why he never learned the Vulcan salute. It doesn't require much effort to perfect; I mean I've been able to do it since I was four, and I've only been a trekkie since I was 12.
I So love this video it so cool and sweet
Who says it has to be "gay"? They are friends. I have a male friend I'm very close with, and we sometimes share deep thoughts and emotions - we aren't gay - quite the opposite. We've just "been through death and life together" and developed a deep kinship over the years like few others seem to do. :)
Ok who is gonna tell him
No one said it had to be gay. But who said it didn’t have to be? people just like the pairing together and think they fit well. It doesn’t harm
Marshak and Culbreath: "There's a great deal of writing in the Star Trek movement now which compares the relationship between Alexander and Hephaistion to the relationship between Kirk and Spock -- focusing on the closeness of the friendship, the feeling that they would die for one another --"
Roddenberry: "Yes, there's certainly some of that, certainly with love overtones. Deep love. The only difference being, the Greek ideal... we never suggested in the series... physical love between the two. But it's the... we certainly had the feeling that the affection was sufficient for that, if that were the particular style of the 23rd century."
It may have something to do with the fact that this is a Kirk/Spock video! Don't you read titles before you click on things? Did you notice the slash?
Ik T'hy'la can be translated as friend/brother/lover but does that mean it's a male pronoun? Or can it be used for females, and it can be translated as "sister" as well?
Works of art are always open to interpretation. And considering Kirk and Spock basically started the whole slash genre, I'm gonna guess that a lot of people get a romantic vibe when they watch the relationship. At the very least most people consider it an iconic "bromance".
They sound squeeky in that first scene you posted.
liked when he said i shall always b your friend
brb crying and dying
Grazie del video.
lol... please Captain, not in front of the Klingons... haha I find that remark... insulting hehe funny funny
Okay, call me weird, but that last scene definitely ended in sex, hence the 'Come on, I need you'. Or maybe I'm just perverted.
Either way, thanks for uploading this collection! =D
No, I believe so too. The earlier version of the Screenplay of this scene, gives a moment , in which Kirk holds out his hand to spock after his speech, and Spock presses his Forehead against it: namely within the Description of the Screenplay "Hard. Harder". It was changed later on, so that it wouldn't appear, but if that doesn't come close to private intimacy between the two, I really don't know what else.
the ultimate bromance.
some people can't do the finger thing. I can but I know that some of my friends and family members have never been able to do it. :\
They're from the Bible. Jonathan was the son of King Saul and David was anointed as Saul's successor by the prophet Samuel (it's a bit complicated). This made Saul ridiculously paranoid, and he started trying to kill David. However Jonathan was very close to David and he helped him escape Saul. David's relationship with Jonathan could be interpreted as homoerotic. When Jonathan was killed, David actually stated that his love was more pleasurable than that of a woman.
because sexual and romantic relationships are just as valid as familiar relationships.
i agree with you completely. they're just bros.
@FurorVikingorum Well obviously your interpretation is the only one that's valid, so we should all just stop discussing our own interpretations with other people who share our opinions and just accept that we're just wrong and you're the only one who's right... whoever you are. -_^
There is such a thing as bisexuality and pansexuality you know.
Precisely. Kirk being pansexual is pretty much canon. There's a paragraph in novelization of ST:1 where he talks about his sexual preferences, saying that he has no objections to any sex with anyone but enjoys it most with women. Clearly he's had enough to compare. His reasoning for not having Spock as a lover is mismatched sex drives, since Vulcans have sex every seven years.
Basically they are the dean and castiel of the 1966 😎😎
it's okay....i think. i'm not one who judges others for what they think. -_- there's a article that may ease your thoughts about this! YOU ARE NOT ALONE!
*sat
1:13 It sounds like he says “idiot”.. X)
@amberjane9 D'awwwwww, HEYA BB!!!
Can anyone tell me why Spock was so distant towards Jim at the beginning of the first movie? I mean, he comes aboard, doesn't say a word of greeting, and looks like there's nothing there, not friendship or anything. Even to a total stranger as Captain, this behavior would have been odd, bordering on rude. Jim stares and goes 'Spock.... Spock!' and Spock acts as if he wasn't even there, until he has to acknowledge him to talk about this communication with star fleet. What's going on there?
It's a "continuation" of when he was on Vulcan for the Kolinahr and almost got the symbol of logic.
After arriving on Enterprise he explains he felt a powerful consciousness back on Vulcan (V'Ger).
And it becomes full why he was like that when he feels sorry for V'ger and says " I weep for V’Ger, as I would for a brother. As I was when I came aboard, so is V’Ger now, empty, incomplete… searching. Logic and knowledge are not enough." (About life).
@@LiunaTiger first of all, thanks for your reply :) But secondly, okay, I know the plot. But to me, it doesn't explain why he doesn't even greet him or something. I mean, at the very least, Kirk is the Captain of the ship that's taking him where he needs to be. And it's trying to get his attention. Vulcans may be unemotional, but I never saw Spock neglecting at least polite formalities before in TOS. I got the impression that they had a fight in the time between TOS and TMP.
Can they just spirk already
T'hy'la.