How rides can get stuck upside down

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  • 28 People Trapped Upside Down on Amusement Park Ride AtmosFEAR Rescued by Fire Department in Oregon
    More than two dozen people are recovering after a theme park ride in Oregon left them hanging upside down for more than 20 minutes.
    On Friday, June 14, 28 passengers were riding Portland's Oaks Amusement Park's AtmosFEAR at around 2:55 p.m. when the ride stopped in its place, suspending them all upside down in its "apex position," the park said
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  • @jacksongrace
    @jacksongrace หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    I was a ride operator at Oaks last year and operated this ride quite a few times as well as very regularly visiting this park other years probably have ridden this one easily 30+ times)
    I personally believe nothing went wrong before getting stuck. In my time there, I've seen it stay completely motionless at the top 3-4 times before. Usually it's only for two or three seconds, but once it seemed motionless for easily 10 seconds and I fully believed it had actually gotten stuck. However, it finally tilted and then faulted right before reaching the bottom (I believe the same fault occurs here when it stops spinning). Also this appeared to be at the very end of the cycle as three rotations is relatively unlikely. It could have even been four as it was really booking over the top, though it wasn't unusually fast (I've heard that it's even had five rotations before). My guess is that after the last full rotation, the timer ran out which leads the brakes to engage on the bottom half and free swing in the top half. When it is a fast rotation cycle, this is a typical set up for a massive hang on a final upswing or rotation. It could tilt either way, though unfortunately here it happened to be neither. When it stopped, the lack of wind due to the massive Oak trees surrounding the park and static friction probably didn't help. Also knowing how rigorous the inspection and maintenance is at this park, with every ride going through three rounds of in depth inspections daily, I guarantee that the level of wear was well within acceptable limits set by Zamperla.
    Of course a lot of this is still speculation, but those are my thoughts. It's incredibly unfortunate that this happened here because Oaks is an incredibly wholesome and amazing park. I've loved every visit growing up and had an absolute blast working there (the management is awesome!). They also seem to have a ton of plans moving forward with this park so I'm really hoping this event won't hurt those. I'm also incredibly thankful that everyone on the ride was ok in the end. It's already a lot to hang for 5 seconds on a big hang, I couldn't imagine for nearly 30 minutes. Either way, I'd highly encourage anyone to visit this awesome park if they get the chance. It deserves all the love it can get!

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      I pinned the comment. You’re better to speculate than I am. I don’t feel there’s a problem with the ride or the park. Just a set of circumstances that longed up perfect. What do they have for recovery. That’s really the meet of the topic, the duration they were stuck. Do you know of a procedure to get it down ( does it have a manual operation mode?)

    • @jacksongrace
      @jacksongrace หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Also this ride is by Zamperla (it is a "Zamperla Discovery 30 Revolution")

    • @jacksongrace
      @jacksongrace หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@ryantheridemechanic Unfortunately, I'm unsure of what they could have done for recovery. There is definitely a manual mode, though there isn't a jog function on the panel. There could have been one by navigating through the panel computer, but I feel like they would have gotten the ride down far quicker if it was that simple. If they didn't do the recovery by what you said, my guess is that they could have performed some override to jog the motors to get the ride in the upright position (with Zamperla on the phone leading them through the process).
      By the way, I just want to thank you so much for you're videos! I've learned so much and I just got my first job in maintenance at Glenwood Caverns!

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@jacksongrace your welcome! The giant discovery I worked on had a manual mode but just to open and close the floor and test restraints. Couldn’t move the arm but we could spin the gondola.

    • @jeremyvanwey4247
      @jeremyvanwey4247 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ​@jacksongrace I used to run the ranger at Darien Lake in the 90s , entirely manual control. I loved making that thing spin. I couldn't imagine just pushing a start button letting a computer do it. Never was able to get it stuck upside down despite my attempts😊

  • @ethanamazing
    @ethanamazing หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Potentially stupid question: Why don't these rides have a "give it a little nudge real quick" button to solve this problem?

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Not sure. A lot of rides in this style don’t offer a manual input to reduce possible stress on the arm. But it’s strictly programming. I’m sure there’s a hand full that have that function.

    • @evancombs5159
      @evancombs5159 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I was wondering the same thing, seems like a common sense thing to include if there is the possibility of this happening.

    • @DerchyTR
      @DerchyTR 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Ride mechanic here! my park actually has this function on our Techical Park Pendulum ride. You can swich to manual and apply small amount of torgue on either direction. We also have our e-stop on it work a bit differently. On our ride if you press e-stop, the ride will attempt a controlled stop for 20 seconds before completely cutting power from the drives.

  • @shanepetyko8004
    @shanepetyko8004 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Zamperla is just killing it this summer!! This one is indeed made by zamperla it says on the park website

    • @Sonic-gy7kq
      @Sonic-gy7kq หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nobody even thought highly of them in the first place. Shame on cedar point for choosing them.

    • @Davidvariance
      @Davidvariance หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@Sonic-gy7kq except CP is where manufacturers prove themselves. You must be a kid who doesn't know about all the downtime us locals have experienced over decades of doing what had never been done before. Par for the course.
      Not to mention intamin has a history of elevated downtime and death.

    • @Jadentheman
      @Jadentheman หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      They're just having a very hot Summer of bad luck. But don't worry, it's like an initiation. Intamin had a notorious streak from about 2003-2007 with incidents and ride issues. May Zamperla learn from this like they did.

    • @OneAdam12Adam
      @OneAdam12Adam 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You weren't paying attention. He says that it's made but another Italian company, called Technical Park.

  • @iitzfizz
    @iitzfizz หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I love this channel it's great having a technical view from a professional of what is going on in these kinds of situations

  • @tilerandmariexplore8986
    @tilerandmariexplore8986 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    oh shoot! i was on the atmosfear when it got stuck!
    edit: 12:45 fire was there before maintenance began work, they worked together and fire/medical did health checks on everyone

  • @RWGresearch
    @RWGresearch หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Loving the "quick video" = 28 min. Hehe (not complaining, just laughing) keep it coming! As long as you want... Its allways good ~Russ

  • @JeepNetwork
    @JeepNetwork หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I see you're having fun editing these videos 😂😂 great info as always and appreciate how sensible you make everything!

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I bought what I consider good editing software. Things I’ve always wanted to do but never could. It might get weird.

    • @LTCoasters
      @LTCoasters หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@ryantheridemechanic, thanks for the warning, ha ha!

  • @matthewmoore8270
    @matthewmoore8270 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    "Rides aren't safe!" This is literally a case of being extremely unlucky with the perfect set of circumstances.

    • @nicholasmiles671
      @nicholasmiles671 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Nothing fun is perfectly safe :)

    • @iitzfizz
      @iitzfizz หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@nicholasmiles671 I mean, maybe they're not perfectly safe but they're pretty close when ran the way they are supposed to be (including maintenance) They're very, very safe.

    • @LTCoasters
      @LTCoasters หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      The restraints held its safe. Maintenance got it back down. It's a success. I would have a team meeting, though, to see how to respond better in the future.

    • @Jenlovescoasters
      @Jenlovescoasters หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Your car isn't perfectly safe either

  • @calebbrooks343
    @calebbrooks343 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I operated a Larson Loop at a Six Flags Park. I was on enable and my partner was the one driving it. He had accidentally got it stuck upside down for like 2 1/2 minutes and finally was able to bring them back down. I can say it is definitely possible. lol we did 3 loops one way 3 loops the other was always told to try and get them as close to stalling, but not actually stalling them for exactly the reason in the video

  • @ethanroberts7544
    @ethanroberts7544 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Love your content. It was be great to hear a bit of a deep dive on B&M flying coasters. The trains have always fascinated me particularly the restraints and the pivot mechanism in the station. Every time I go to a park with one, I enjoy standing in a station watching the trains go from seating to flying.

  • @DokiKimori
    @DokiKimori หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    When I worked at Six Flags way back in 2012 I was taught on certain rides to Ride Stop first, then E-stop to cut the power.
    We had an old Huss Enterprise and Maintenance showed us what happens when you e-stop it in the air.
    It's not pretty.

    • @FredMas-gt2uh
      @FredMas-gt2uh หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I want to buy a new Huss Enterprise 2g with the tilt . It is awesome . Just need a show to book on with . E stop on Enterprise just rotates slowly with the gondolas rocking back and forth ?? Huss has a animation on the website of a pit model Enterprise 2G with open seats ( like Zamperlas Endevor) Ride Control has an animation of an Enterprise 2G with the tilt with gondola cars ' Enterprise - Enterprise'' Ride Control '' on TH-cam

  • @danariusm.4283
    @danariusm.4283 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    7:49 I know what you mean about the torque because when I ride a KMG fireball, I feel the motor at the bottom and then when it’s swinging up it’s like the power turns off for a second and you can feel it torquing to swing back down.

  • @Deurklink
    @Deurklink หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    In what situation would a person be eligible for compensation in the form of Dippin' Dots?

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Nope. Doesn’t exist! Haha!

    • @spinba11
      @spinba11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      That could be an April fools video next year

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@spinba11 haha!!!! That would be funny.

  • @ThemeParkUK
    @ThemeParkUK หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hi Ryan. I'm from the UK so found the channel through your coverage on Hyperia. One of the only channels out there giving updates on real events in the industry from a mechanics perspective. Thank you!

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Your welcome! I’m not quick to jump on these type of things but enough people kept asking so I figured more people would probably want to know.

    • @ThemeParkUK
      @ThemeParkUK หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@ryantheridemechanic If only the media were this knowledgeable about ride stoppages!🤣

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ThemeParkUK ugh! Right! I cringe at some of the reports I see.

    • @ThemeParkUK
      @ThemeParkUK หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ryantheridemechanic Keep up this content and hopefully more people see it over the news! Hyperia is back open and running fantastically by the way! Was able to get my first (five) rides this past Thursday and it was definitely worth the wait. Thanks for the updates during it's closure

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ThemeParkUK so awesome that’s up and running!! I would love to ride one day!

  • @matthewmiller4616
    @matthewmiller4616 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The closest I've ever been to being stuck upside down was on a zamperla air race where my car was balanced perfectly upside down for 2 whole rotations. It may have cause the ride to fault because it broke down after I got off

  • @matb9027
    @matb9027 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Always makes me wonder why parks don’t have an SOP for this sort of eventuality? If I owned a ride like this the first thing I’d ask myself is “what do we do if it gets stuck upside down” and make sure there is a well rehearsed process to deal with it

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Parks like the phrase “that won’t happen” been there, heard that! Pointed out the stuck ride 10 months later….. “see”…….

    • @joeskis
      @joeskis หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      yeah 25 mins is unacceptable.

    • @riskydevil6486
      @riskydevil6486 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@ryantheridemechanicreally? A short “that won’t happen” and they don’t even bother to ask how? explains a lot I guess, lmao.

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@riskydevil6486 when parks make decisions sometimes people have to argue common sense against their decision. Not everytime, but sometimes.

  • @fanatichighdesertrailroader
    @fanatichighdesertrailroader หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Always an interesting explanation .

  • @FredMas-gt2uh
    @FredMas-gt2uh หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Last year a Huss Enterprise wouldnt come down to the plat form. It still rotated very slowly with the gondola cars uncomfortably rocking back and forth. It was still at the 88 deg angle . Last year a Wizdom Music Fest wouldnt shut off at Rye Playland even after the kill button was hit

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wonder of the drive was wired wrong not to accept the stop signal

  • @josephmcconnell5869
    @josephmcconnell5869 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I've ridden this exact ride at Kentucky Kingdom many times and being 52 and having open heart surgery a few years back there's no doubt that being stuck upside down for 30 minutes could possibly stop my new beating heart! This is a real eye opener with rides I need to cross off because and I think I'm sticking with my precious Diamondback coaster and all of its smooth camelback hills!!

    • @josephmcconnell5869
      @josephmcconnell5869 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @Jenlovescoasters my doctor actually said it was fine and said the heat is more dangerous then anything else! I just take note on certain rides to see how i feel afterwards and I find rides with alot of Gs is what I find that makes me nauseated and very dizzy.I unfortunately have stop riding suspended coasters with many loops and flat rides can be pretty rough now to ESPECIALLY fair rides!!

  • @URAWESOME94
    @URAWESOME94 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Pendulum rides are so fascinating to me. I’d totally love to see a breakdown on how the various ones work. I haven’t seen a lot that do a 360. Usually I’ve encountered ones that are far larger and don’t go completely over.

  • @zcvxs
    @zcvxs หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I just cant imagine being stuck that high

  • @stonewallperformance
    @stonewallperformance 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Just gotta say I love the way you pronounce gondola! Lol

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@stonewallperformance that’s the way I do it

  • @DJWezzyK
    @DJWezzyK หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Technical Park is part of Fabbri Group. Soriani is the exact same company as Moser rides, they are one and the same. Zamperla and Moser made flatrides before. (They made a topspin variant and some other stuff). So it makes sense that they still work together on projects.

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Interesting. I know it’s an odd relationship from my perspective but I don’t understand a lot of things haha!

    • @DJWezzyK
      @DJWezzyK หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ryantheridemechanic They are all in the same part of Italy called Ride manufacturers lane or something where there are like 20-30 companies just working on amusement rides. From what I have seen and heard in Interviews.

    • @MrMakoFL
      @MrMakoFL หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Technical Park is no longer part of the Fabbri Group. They had split when Mel Park when by bye bye. Soriani and Moser split in 1998 when Zamperla acquired Soriani then Moser become Moser Rides SRL. Soriani produces a lot of flat rides for Zamperla who sells are services them. When it comes to Moser, they have the same patent rights and molds as Soriani does.

    • @DJWezzyK
      @DJWezzyK หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MrMakoFL The Moser pendulum rides look identical to the Zamperla ones. And a lot of Showmans in Germany and The Netherlands claim that Soriani is still moser, and Fabbri Group still sells Technical Park rides. So this makes it very confusing. I just got the information from people who actually buy rides and parts from those parties. This doesn't make it much easier to say.

    • @MrMakoFL
      @MrMakoFL หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@DJWezzyK yeah I hear ya especially that the Soriani rides Zamperla offers are almost identical to Moser offerings. Myself still consider Moser as the old Soriani and Moser brand. For certain Technical Park is no longer part of Fabbri Group even though they were part of them until about 20 or so years ago. I bet you some of the Fabbri rides are partially manufactured or designed by Technical Park (example Heavy Rotation vs Eclipse).
      I can confirm parts for the Energy Storm can be got from Moser as the Speed Flip has some of the same parts just like the Space Trainer vs Top Star Tour.

  • @intotheunknown804
    @intotheunknown804 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video

  • @gyme6077
    @gyme6077 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    My screen flipped at the start and i got confused lol. Touche sir lol.

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I forgot to ask after I corrected it, how many people flipped their phone hahaha!!!

  • @jonathankaczmarczyk658
    @jonathankaczmarczyk658 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi Ryan I love all of your videos, I was wondering if you are going to make a video talking about your opinion on cedar fair and six flags merging???

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  หลายเดือนก่อน

      How about this I made a while back;
      th-cam.com/video/NtqBlIpAheQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Gt3jQMI6k4GkiXVn

  • @LTCoasters
    @LTCoasters หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I'm not sure if I'm getting jaded by the media and park goer whine about maintenance issues. My first response was restraints held. Second was it sucks to be upside down. Next response was maintenance will get it down or start a fun evac. Then I moved on another day at the park.

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same. But a lot of people kept hammering this one to me. So I figured, might as well.

  • @Jacomelo2935
    @Jacomelo2935 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My school had a field trip to oaks Park 4 days prior the stuck upside down thing. It made feel weird because i could've been one of those who got stuck.😅😅

  • @ryans413
    @ryans413 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Being upside down for to long is not good for the body. Eventually if you’re upside down for to long your organs will fail the heart has to work harder to pump the blood and your lungs start to feel pressure and your breathing can fail.

  • @kylealsleben4140
    @kylealsleben4140 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Rumor has it the fire department trained for this a few weeks before

  • @collinparsons3363
    @collinparsons3363 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Forgive me if I sound dumb, but what's the difference between "Ride Stop" and E-Stop"?
    On the topic of Larson Loops, they either come with the manual joystick control, or a pre-programmed cycle. I think all the ones that Six Flags installed had the manual control. Great Adventure had to remove theirs after just 4 seasons because the State of New Jersey didn't like the control system. Instead of retrofitting it with a pre-programmed cycle, they removed it and sent it to La Ronde.

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ride stops kill controls. Estops kill power (these vary from ride to ride.)
      Some of the loops are manual some are program driven. I always thought they should all be program driven. But that’s just me.

    • @stonewallperformance
      @stonewallperformance 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      On most rides a ride stop would signal the ride to end the cycle in it's normal controlled procedure. Most flat rides operate on a timer that dictates the length of a normal ride cycle, however if the operator hits the ride stop they can end the cycle early (like if a rider gets sick or something) and the ride just comes to a stop in it's normal fashion. E-Stops either cut power to the ride altogether and/or completely stop the ride in the position it's in (varies based on ride). Some rides when e-stop won't actually stop but will coast (like the swing rides in the video) whereas other rides will come to a sharp stop (usually that is if the ride's brakes are designed to engage when power is lost).

  • @MrMakoFL
    @MrMakoFL หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Wonder if there’s a wench on one of the arms they can attach to the counterweight and reel it down.

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Bypas motor (my vote)

    • @MrMakoFL
      @MrMakoFL หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ryantheridemechanic great

  • @OneAdam12Adam
    @OneAdam12Adam 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Within 5 to 10 minutes the ride should have been rescued.

  • @zacherz13
    @zacherz13 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wait why not Dippin Dots?! I love me some Dippin Dots. Banana Split for the win! Ooh now I wanna go to my park just for the snack...

  • @danamarie2970
    @danamarie2970 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'm curious...do you think this incident has had a ripple effect throughout the theme park industry? My home park's Zamperla pendulum has been closed down ever since the Atmosfear got stuck. And I'm one the opposite coast - might not be any correlation but just wondering if all of those ride types are being inspected or something. As always, great video! Thanks for the educational content!

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Yes for sure. Same style models will be down until they figure out what went wrong. General models or like models will probably also be down just in case.
      Parks should implement an evacuation procedure prior to opening to ensure when this happens it can quickly be recovered.

    • @danamarie2970
      @danamarie2970 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ryantheridemechanic Cool, thanks so much!

  • @bassjasinski
    @bassjasinski หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Looks like a controls issue and the computer thought the ride was home 😂

    • @BlueZirnitra
      @BlueZirnitra หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It didn't think it was home, that's mechanically governed so the parts/contacts can't be in the right place.
      It just tripped out and caught balanced at the top because it goes over slowly anyway and needs a motor push to do so. It's clearly quite stable in the upside down position so can hang there.

    • @BlueZirnitra
      @BlueZirnitra หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Definitely some design flaws here though, that need to be addressed.

  • @IRDeady
    @IRDeady หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm genuinely surprised there isn't some sort of mechanism to prevent this from happening if the power fails. I obviously don't know how the inner workings operate but outside looking in it seems like this could be avoided with like a bump in the parts that control the rotation or something. Something that will allow it to flip but will ensure that it physically can't stay on the upside-down position.

  • @aldoparise1224
    @aldoparise1224 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    17:47 Intamin Looping Starship. My most favourite flat ride!!!

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  หลายเดือนก่อน

      They are fun

    • @aldoparise1224
      @aldoparise1224 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ryantheridemechanic yes they are. I personally think they are a better ride experience, as well as visually appealing, than any other looping flat ride

  • @kenerstad2302
    @kenerstad2302 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Aww, revolution at Great america! This is Jen on Ken's phone❤

  • @Duffster115
    @Duffster115 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nice video. I could be work but I think it a a Zamperla like a giant discovery but instead of that it is a discovery revolution. Idk though I don’t know everything. I know my home park have had at least rumor wise lots of trouble with the Gear box for there Giant discovery ride wich is named Black Widow. I haven’t seen it myself but I’ve heard of the Aero 360 at the same park, a Zamperla Hawk 48, stopping upside down back in 2022 but from what I remember from what I heard they must of had a pedicure for it because I think it was solved within the time span of 5 to 10 minutes

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      We had the hawk recovery under 10 min easy. Funny story, before my time, when the hawk was brand new, the 0 position was straight up and down vertical but upside down. I heard they added sensors and interrupted the program to find 0 drying a fault. Take that with a grain of salt because I think that was a BS story I was fed.

  • @MrMakoFL
    @MrMakoFL หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ahh Typhoon 360 model. Never knew we had one in the US. More familiar with Soriani and SBF/Visa.

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So typhoon is the trade name? Is that from technical park?

    • @MrMakoFL
      @MrMakoFL หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ryantheridemechanic yeah. I found it my Technical Park catalog when I got home.

  • @car_tar3882
    @car_tar3882 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My local park kings dominion has a looping ship from intamin, it goes SLOW over the top

  • @TheCoasterSerpent
    @TheCoasterSerpent หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hey, have you done a video discussing transfer tracks and procedures for getting trains to and from maintenance bays? Some of the old ones I have seen, in particular on old arrows, they actually have a drop into the maintenance bay with a winch to get trains back up. How much of a pain in the butt is something like that? The Cedar Point Corkscrew has this and I have heard of other Corkscrew models having that. If you needed to do a wheel replacement, could you do that on the brake run or station, or does it have to go into the maintenance bay? Once you winch a train back up to be transferred, is there anything stopping a train from just rolling back into the maintenance shed or rolling completely off onto the ground?

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I haven’t done a video on transfer track yet.

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Generally most rides with complicated transfer tracks, they tend not to use them. Then you need another person or special tools to work on the trains on the track.

    • @LTCoasters
      @LTCoasters หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Fun fact if you notice, Corkscrew and Gemini only have road wheels. Arrow had a different system instead of the more modern 3 wheel set carriers. Take a good look at Magnum's wheels same thing. Cedar Point had to add a form of primitive upstop wheel because of the hill height, speed, and those great bunny hills. If you know you know, lol

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@LTCoasters not a fan of the single road wheels but I did see that!

  • @4everpee
    @4everpee หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The gondola i off balanced so this shouldn't happen. They should program it to not fault at the top with a limit switch.

  • @sharkheadism
    @sharkheadism หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    How do these rides trim the swing speed down when the cycle is ending?

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Same as the acceleration just with lower values. So the arm tries to go to speed 60 but the drive is trying to get it to speed 40. The speed and torque curves are the same the value is just lower.

  • @marksrye
    @marksrye 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    So I'm wondering does something like this have a "bump" button or a go to "position zero" button?
    I've seen Kobra (same manufacturer) at Chessington world of adventures get stuck mid-run, I actually got to speak to an engineer and was told they have a button which basically engages the motor/spin until the engineer releases it - the ride then re-attempts to find position zero at the gate again. I imagine that maintenance on this might have something similar, although 30 minutes is an awfully long time to do that procedure.

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I’ve heard some rides have that override. That makes sense. Now, why ALL of these don’t have it is a different story. Not sure there.

  • @FredMas-gt2uh
    @FredMas-gt2uh หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great Adventure had an Evolution( like this ride but gondolas) that wouldnt come down about ten years ago. The ride is still in operation at another park

  • @mylifeandcoasters
    @mylifeandcoasters หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would It Be Possible for a Discovery To get stuck or Swing Too High , talking abt the ones that dont fully invert

  • @Soonjai
    @Soonjai หลายเดือนก่อน

    Events like this make me wonder why there isn´t a way to manually "push" the ride with the motors. Like, you mentioned that some of these rides have a manual override for the brake up ont top where the motors are, so why isn´t there also a button a mechanic can push to have the motors engange for a second or two just to nudge the arm out of it´s balanced position?

  • @adakalyoncu1913
    @adakalyoncu1913 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Bruh why there isn’t a system on the computer system that literally does a simple thing such as dividing that angle value it measures to value from a timer to derivate the angular speed and if it ever stays at zero for more than a set time, just ramp up the motors to a great level like 30-40 for it to escape being stuck.. Use a super capacitor or battery powered system so it activates automatically when power is lost

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@adakalyoncu1913 a lot of systems have something like this. But this one did not, park probably never found a reason to install one. Or ask for it from the factory.

  • @Whatchamawhozit
    @Whatchamawhozit หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    FUNNEL CAKE??? I was upside down for 30 minutes I deserve Dippin' Dots

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      See the tshirt haha!!!

    • @Whatchamawhozit
      @Whatchamawhozit หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ryantheridemechanic I still want my dippin' dots... I will riot
      😁

  • @slumpdogyt
    @slumpdogyt หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That ride at 18:00 there is still one operating at Kings Dominion in Doswell Virginia!

    • @JaKobe2290
      @JaKobe2290 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah I rode that getting worried that would happen because every turn in sat up there for like 3 seconds then come down.

    • @slumpdogyt
      @slumpdogyt หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JaKobe2290 that one at KD has been very good, been running for years

  • @flashback0978
    @flashback0978 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The media coverage of this has been very typical, they reported riders stuck upside down and had to be evacuated and completely omitting that the ride was brought down and the riders were removed in the normal unloading position

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yea from near by sources we got Maintenance was able to get it down moments before or right as the fire department showed up

  • @joeskis
    @joeskis หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wonder why we haven't seen a video of it coming down yet. I don't get why these rides don't have a manual crank wheel for this exact reason.

  • @alexlail7481
    @alexlail7481 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I know Dollywood had something very similar happened with their 'timber tower ride' awhile back. I don't think the rides were Identical just similar in concept. It seems like Huss made the one DW had and it was a multi hour ordeal.... they removed it shortly afterwards it seems like another one at a different park was found to have unrepairable stress cracks about the same time and the faults on the one DW😅 had was suspected to possibly have the same issues .... any thoughts/ knowledge of that set of occurrences? For the record I expect a ride of that nature to develop stress cracks just due to the shear amount of force going on and I am personally more relieved to hear a park shut down and repair or remove a ride due to stress cracks then not because it proves they are on top of things even though I expect nothing less.

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Don’t have much along repairs. When I asked Zamperla about their arm repair time lines sense the ride was new, it was “replace” there is no repair. I agree with not welding cracks on those arms. Too much stress.

  • @Jenlovescoasters
    @Jenlovescoasters หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I: worked at knotts, pony express never ran right I will wait to ride tt2

  • @jackschissler255
    @jackschissler255 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In a situation like this, Do you think the pendulum rides that go over like this one and some of the ones that don’t like MaxAir and Delium at KI which are both Huss models, should there be a “Home” position where no matter what failure there is, it should return to the “ Home” Position?

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s really not needed. Gravity does that for you every time. But I would love to see a manual mode where the motors could alt least try and bump the gondola one direction. Just a nudge.

  • @jonreed8281
    @jonreed8281 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This has 2 ride cycles that load back and forth, a 360 version and a 180 like the regular Discoveries. Does that make a difference in this situation - computer issues?

  • @Jenlovescoasters
    @Jenlovescoasters หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am pro imtamin
    Top 5 coasters out of 396: maverick, millinium force, cheetah hunt, velocicoaster, xcelerator

  • @BamaRailfan
    @BamaRailfan หลายเดือนก่อน

    The number of times my daughter and I said 'stay off the air gates' this past weekend at Cedar Point would've made you proud! Someone actually broke Magnum XL200 by shaking the gates..then, later, Gemini got shut down for the same reason. Lol

    • @thisguy_w0n
      @thisguy_w0n หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Time to order a shirt! Youll probably get it by Saturday

    • @BamaRailfan
      @BamaRailfan หลายเดือนก่อน

      @thisguy_w0n going through some things at the moment and, unfortunately, this isn't in the budget right now. Once my situation is resolved, you bet I'll be getting one!

  • @SnowghostFilms
    @SnowghostFilms หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not gonna tolerate any unnecessary hate for Zamperla. But still kinda crazy this happened, whilst still showing every other safety system in the structure and restraints still worked as they should

  • @LilyandOllieTv
    @LilyandOllieTv หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That's why I like the old school hammer rides because they're manual driven by joystick and a clutch pedal that acts as a clutch and a break at the same time! All the way up to when they made the one that was 60 passenger 30 per side it took two operators to operate both arms those are the good rides these new rides are all electronic way too electronic I will take an old school ride that you can manually physically operate over a electronic one

  • @zenomorph8806
    @zenomorph8806 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You’d think there would be a failsafe that would prevent this from happening. Do you know how they brought the gondola down?

  • @NewEnglandModz
    @NewEnglandModz หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How do restraints work on a ride like that? Had they put it in manual mode to push it one way or another, is there potential risk of releasing the restraints?

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They wouldn’t be able to release the restraints like that.

    • @samich57
      @samich57 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ryan has a great video about restraints

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@samich57 I do!

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  หลายเดือนก่อน

      The restraint video of it helps
      th-cam.com/video/ikrq045k5CM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Lz3Wo-jW9wure4r8

    • @NewEnglandModz
      @NewEnglandModz หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ryantheridemechanic I saw the video when it came out. I meant since the vehicle is attached to the ride and they're inseparable, I assume there isn't a physical connection that isn't connected to the swing arm that unlocks the restraints like a ride that has a traveling vehicle. Either by mechanical push bar or by connecting an electrical busbar when a vehicle is in the station.
      Does the swing arm style ride have some sort of means of connecting a push bar or electrical bus to the vehicle when it's in the "parked" position that wouldn't be connected when the ride is in any other position? Or is the mechanism that unlocks the restraints located on the arm itself?

  • @happy_mimimix
    @happy_mimimix หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm actually curious how it feels like to be up side down for that long LOL

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  หลายเดือนก่อน

      All I can think of is the legs trying to come forward and down the whole time.

  • @modgetall
    @modgetall หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Gone Dola.

  • @FredMas-gt2uh
    @FredMas-gt2uh หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ryan, you worked at Great Adventure and or SFNE with Pete Charmichal and Tim Black ??? I

  • @snakesonn3590
    @snakesonn3590 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What are dip and dots?

  • @christopherfinch-mccollum1753
    @christopherfinch-mccollum1753 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    @12:12 😮

  • @Sonic-gy7kq
    @Sonic-gy7kq หลายเดือนก่อน

    I HIGHLY doubt it just so happened to perfectly balance itself upside down like that, especially with the passengers still spinning. It would've tipped one way or the other, wind, etc... This has got to be some hydraulic (maybe mechanical) lock up. Edit: Top comment operator bro said its likely because of the breaks.

  • @DerekElrod
    @DerekElrod 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Here’s what’s wrong with your take: The computer should recognize the stall is upside down and should automatically be programmed to properly attempt to push the ride one way or another to safely return it to the ground. Having to 100% rely on manual intervention or some procedure that is susceptible to human error and takes 25 minutes, even 5 minutes upside down is too long. Rethink this please.

  • @Jenlovescoasters
    @Jenlovescoasters หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm over here like shunt trip

  • @misscandy84
    @misscandy84 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    how did they get them down thats sketchy

  • @bassjasinski
    @bassjasinski หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A simple accelerometer on the gondola would have prevented this 😂 and they only costs a quarter

  • @tractorgt
    @tractorgt หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The look on your face when it happens... 🤣

  • @Randy-29
    @Randy-29 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Rock n roller coaster impossible to get stuck upside down

  • @christiwright3604
    @christiwright3604 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am wondering what happens to the body when you are upside down for 30 minutes. That couldn’t have been positive on their bodies!

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      From my understanding (talking with dr’s in the past,) mainly just uncomfortable. Could burst a blood vessel in the eye possible by personal health comes largely in the picture. High blood pressure makes things much worse of course.

    • @christiwright3604
      @christiwright3604 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ryantheridemechanic​​⁠​⁠lol I googled it! The information I found says that your larger organs can compress your lungs! And your blood can pool causing blood clots and such. Your body can also handle about 15 minutes. I think they deserve dippin dots! lol 😂

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@christiwright3604 I’m going to have to make a chart when it ok to release dippin dots

    • @christiwright3604
      @christiwright3604 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ryantheridemechanic absolutely there can be no shades of gray!

  • @gyme6077
    @gyme6077 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hope to god if this ride remains, it has or gets seat belts. They could potentially been life saving.

  • @dindog22
    @dindog22 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    it's not even Friday. what's going on?

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  หลายเดือนก่อน

      The amusement industry keeps doing these things. For more of a current event I don’t think you all should have to wait till Friday. Consider it more of a news flash. Haha! Still have my usual out on Friday though!

  • @MsDisneylandlover
    @MsDisneylandlover หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is y i dont do crazy ride smh. I hate heights or drops. N i don't do roller coasters. Even with slow and easy ride you have to be carful such as with Disneyland. I honestly only been to Disneyland and knotts. N when i was in middle school 6 flags. But fairs rides n 6 flags stuff like that no way jose. Smh. You hear of many death at these type of places and also common places such as Disney and knotts also 6 flags others. You just got to stay praying period about stuff like this. I heard about this story but i didn't look into until now.
    #DisneyDiva

  • @patricksquires6348
    @patricksquires6348 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My Money is that ride is done due to attention it got. If the park can afford it they will sell it and drag in some other repainted ride. Or they rename it!! “ The Hanger”

  • @derekwhite9932
    @derekwhite9932 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Heya everybody

  • @amusement420
    @amusement420 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Chris Elliot from Letterman. Get a Life TV show S1E1 Terror on the Hell Loop 2000 on YT

  • @Jenlovescoasters
    @Jenlovescoasters หลายเดือนก่อน

    One in a million chance

  • @CarlExplores
    @CarlExplores หลายเดือนก่อน

    I get free Dippin Dots at my local park as a reward for going.

  • @MatecaCorp
    @MatecaCorp หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Of course it had to happen at the only thrill park in my entire state. They have been looking to expand the park but they might have to postpone that if (when) the GP take the wrong lesson from this.

  • @burntjuggalas
    @burntjuggalas หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Are you still in the industry or have you moved on to something else?

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Moved on. We had to relocate. Wasn’t what I wanted but it was the best thing that ever happened to me. Wouldn’t change. I’d work for a park again though, maybe, I’m used to weekends and holidays off now haha!!

    • @brp12000
      @brp12000 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Worked full time in the industry for nearly thirty years and another ten part time. Enjoyed it for the most part. Retired now but still get calls for advice

  • @IAmAnonymyz
    @IAmAnonymyz หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hammerhead was fun.... Sucks they removed it.... Tasmanian Devil (Huss Frisbee) was my favorite pendulum ride....dare devil was not a fun time lol i talked mad shit to the operator and let's just say we got some "extra hang time" at the top of the loop lol

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Small but fun. Have you been on wonder woman. That’s good. Not as tight as Taz was but get some good force.

    • @IAmAnonymyz
      @IAmAnonymyz หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​​@@ryantheridemechanicof course I have....I also used to ride VooDoo in my younger years 7-8 times without getting off lol and V2 back when it was actually vertical on both ends and the brakes still held you at the back spike

    • @IAmAnonymyz
      @IAmAnonymyz หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wonder woman is basically Taz on Steroids lol

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@IAmAnonymyz then you have ridden the Zonga! That was a fun ride. Rough but fun.

    • @IAmAnonymyz
      @IAmAnonymyz หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ryantheridemechanic sadly I did experience THAT atrocity.... And I'm normally a fan of Schwartzkopfs but not THAT one. I was technically too tall as I think the max height was 72" and I'm 77 but I crammed myself in it and rode it. Tony Hawks Big Spin was a BLAST. We would be spinning 5x faster than anyone else because we figured out how to stack the weight to maximize momentum lol.
      Crazanity was another credit I have that wasn't worth it. Loud, Rough, and over hyped

  • @jd67543
    @jd67543 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Only complaint with this video is how you pronounce “Gondola”

  • @Mynamespence
    @Mynamespence หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    looɔ sı oǝpıʌ sıɥʇ

  • @Shredxcam22
    @Shredxcam22 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gon dola

  • @samich57
    @samich57 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    12:14 wtf was that

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      That was a ride in India. Snapped clean in half mid cycle. That’s the stuff nightmares are made of. Honestly most crazy video I see come out of that area.

    • @samich57
      @samich57 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ryantheridemechanicthanks for the feedback. Now I have a new rabbit hole

  • @shakycameratheater
    @shakycameratheater 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hoping that, teens aee your videos and get i terested in an engineering or maitenance career. These arr well explained

  • @Barney24-ql3cv
    @Barney24-ql3cv 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    If I saw this happen i would call 911 and help them

  • @ross123540
    @ross123540 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    First