He does it with a little suave look on his face, too. Same one when he gave her his "Beautiful" line about the drink later. For being so bad with people, our boy has game.
11:57 after Cloud says "beautiful", you can see Tifa turn away sounding flustered and she bites her lip. I love the little details they put here. Tifa just splooshed.
@Overlord Of Derp thanos: gimmie rent Captain America: You’ll get your money when you fix this DAMN DOOR! Thanos: *g i m m i e r e n t* *p a u n c h* love the spider man 3 reference
I really like the scene where tifa basically asked cloud on a date and even asked him to wear matching clothes to which cloud blatantly agrees immediately. To other character, when female character tries to flirt or even so much as to ask cloud for a date or call him 'my hero', clouds just just sigh/stare away/call them desperate. Yet for tifa, he is doing a lot of the subtle flirting himself lmao. Like giving her flowers, saying 'beautiful' while staring at her and making her blush, trying to impress her and play nice when he asks him to, plays hero and hugs her down the train. Not to mention the little jealous scene where the merchant says if cloud ever need a replacement as tifa's debt collector, he can always fill in to which cloud disgustedly says "in your dreams!". They even have a theme song which plays everytime they seemingly starts getting affectionate to each other. Plus, Cloud is an outcast and very distant but he is willing to do everything outside his comfort zone for tifa like making an effort of being more social/nice to people when tifa asked him to, help avalanche multiple times despite saying it's just for money, offer to help tifa get money for free even if she still owes him, refusing to leave even after he gets his money because tifa was in a 'tight situation', agree to crossdress to help tifa from Don corneo. Tifa is the first and only girl cloud has ever tried to flirt willingly lmao
I mean, she is the whole reason he did everything leading up to the beginning of the game and held himself up despite all the crazy shit that happened to him. It kinda reminds me of Cap. Nothing special about him, except a crazy ammount of resilience
you should see the Japanese version lol he mentions tifa soooo many times, way more than in the English version twitter.com/ff777ct_bot/status/1250656063059382274?s=20
Well i tell you: -When someone asks Cloud about Jessie "She still owe me a pizza." -When someone asks Cloud about Aerith "Well, i saved her, she saved me... round and round it goes." -When soneome asks or mentions Cloud about Tifa... *Vietnam War flashback*
16:00 I love this one. Where he talks about her and their past in the third person. It’s simple but playful enough that it opens up another side of cloud
42:57 God this is a beautiful scene. Cloud breaking down his own walls to hug her and then finally realising that she is, what he always wanted and needed. He got so lost while hugging her that he even hurt her. Their relationship is truly beautiful. I hope Square brings them together.
Its going to happen lmfao. Tifa was specifically designed to be the girl that ends up with Cloud. And the supplemental material like the official databooks and guides confirm that they confirmed their mutual romantic feelings with each other and that she became his "Koibito" or lover lmfao
Literally as soon as he meets Tifa, and after being told what Aerith's flower symbolizes, Cloud always gives it to Tifa. In the original game, you could give it to either Tifa or Marlene, but the remake makes the choice for you. They are pushing Tifa as Cloud's love interest so much harder than the OG and I love it!
the flower is actually more representative of aerith, there's even a trophy and chapter titles to push this. Tifa herself attributes the flower to aerith. Since this would not actually be cloud and tifa's reunion in the timeline. Cloud "can't recall"where the flower went and denies interest in tifa outright.
What Eversong What? I thought when Aerith asks him who he gave the flower to he says “can’t recall” to simply get Aerith to stop asking questions. What are you talking about
Agreed. What I find interesting is that Square Enix seems to be trying to acclimatize Clerith shippers to this. SE has already made it clear that they themselves prefer the Cloti and Zerith ships, judging from statements made repeatedly in the Ultimanias and developer interviews (see user Squall_of_SEEDs analysis of the Love Tirangle Debate on thelifestream.net for more detail). The devs seem to have taken this acclimatizing approach to narrative design as well, because ALL THREE versions of the scene in Chapter 14 of Remake could theoretically be canon--Cloud first dreams about Aerith meeting him in the garden and so wakes up, then goes out to that same garden and sees Tifa, whom he comforts as she cries over the loss of Sector 7, and then as she goes back inside to get some sleep, Cloud hangs back for a few moments just to chat with Barret and reconcile over their prior hostilities.
Y'all do realize Cloud lifting his drink and saying beautiful is not only referencing to her eyes it's also so he can get an excuse to call her beautiful lmao would these two please just kiss already it's been decades LET US HAVE A KISS AT LEAST
27:16 i don’t know why I laughed at this bit on my first play through. “Nailed it, I know, thank you.” Such a quick answer 😂 Edit: oh my god they referenced it in Rebirth, start of Chapter 8 after the Dio scene
I feel like Aerith balances Cloud’s personality very well since she’s more flirty and extroverted. I won’t be surprised if he had a crush on her. And I say crush because they only spent like, 2 days together Their relationship is like, a dreamy, cute, delightful, almost perfect, illusion but ephemeral. Reminds me of animes. Whereas Tifa and Cloud’s relationship, is more realistic, feels more natural tends to focus on the real world and its events, not always happy, it has ups and downs, joy and tears just like any couple in real life. At the end, it’s up to the player to choose how to interpret these relationships. For me, I’d go with Cloud and Tifa. Not only because realism works well with me, but also because their relationship was build up from the start with so many events, and yet they’re still here, standing strong and caring for each other. They are both similar which might be boring in a relationship, but that’s what appeals to me. And their back story has so much impact, it makes their relationship endearing. EDIT : It seems to me that in the game, Aerith is more pushing Cloud and Tifa together than thinking about Cloud lol. Cloud and Tifa just feels right to me.
mintybunny I haven’t, but in any case I still prefer Tifa and Cloud’s relationship regarding my own taste. It doesn’t really change anything as I’m mostly talking about the remake. I just love the fact that Cloud is being natural/true with Tifa. By that I mean, being comfortable and showing his « real » persona.
@@ravenriverdale9381 Don't wanna break your hurt but when I see how Cloud is with Tifa in AC and Case of Tifa, I kinda feel like she deserves someone who really likes her, someone who isn't always thinking about another girl when they are together
@@daeith1233 In AC, cloud just feels guilty about what had happened to aierith. He blames himself for her death and feels as if he could have prevented it. Plus he had the sickness of geostigma, so he could have felt like he didn't want to infect them. It's the typical "If I'm alone, no one else I care about will get hurt." mindset. Tifa wanted to show Cloud that this wasn't the case, but he was blinded by guilt. Tifa was the only one who knew that Cloud had fake memories during the events of the original FF7, yet she still stuck by his side and his whole reason to get into the SOLDIER program was to get stronger so that Tifa wouldn't get hurt again. Plus, Tifa is mentally older than Cloud, as Cloud lost about 5 years of his life due to being in a comatose state at shinra, so mentally, he's still an edgy teenager going through the motions of learning how to deal with emotion.
@@joyboyoux He loves Aeris, but he's not IN LOVE with her. There's a huge difference. And where did Cloud say that exactly? They're known each other like couple of days so I doubt that very much.
I will literally cry in heavy tears if Tifa's theme plays during Cloud's mental breakdown in Mideel. Young'uns may ship Clerith because it's cutesy, but when I saw how Tifa took care of Cloud in Mideel, that just sealed the cake. Tifa never left Cloud's side even though in the very beginning, she knew Cloud was "lying" about his past. That's true love right there.
Exactly!! Tifa stays by Clouds side through thick and think and always takes care of him. He is her home. Both Cloud and Tifa's home got destroyed and both endured so much trauma, Cloud more trauma but even through all of that Tifa loved him at his best and his worst that is true love she has loved him since she was a kid and never stopped ❤️
IMO Aerith is too extrovert for Cloud... Tifa on the other hand is the perfect level of "onee-chan" for him. 😂 Just to be clear I like Aerith more than tifa but as a pairing I prefer cloud-tifa.
Silvana Sanchez 💯💯💯 Lol I like you already, I’ve seen you everywhere defending CloTi with those unfortunate delusional Clerith fans. I don’t mind Clerith having their own ship and likes, in fact everyone is free to ship whoever they like may it be cannon or not. The problem here is recently a lot of Clerith fans are so triggered that they keep bombarding their own opinions especially to Cloti and what’s worse they are doing it on Cloti places like this video for example. Pity, but laughable at the same time. Even in this remake, Aerith seems to be denying Cloud and she keeps pushing Cloud and Tifa together. She even smiles happily when she found out the flower she gave was given to Tifa. She is still pining over Zack. Even at the end of the game she indirectly says she misses him, but I bet Cleriths will just ignore those hints and would keep on imposing what they think is right. Lol. I don’t give a damn if Clerith continues to ship Cloud and Aerith for as long as they like, I won’t even bother changing their minds, but I cannot keep quiet when they keep shoving us their own opinions at us as if that will ever change our minds.
@@LiriBrightstar They also have a habit of bringing up old downdated sources like ultimanias before the compilation and external games like kingdom hearts as well as "the maiden the travels the planet" and have a habbit of ignoring the new ones like the "FF 20th anni. ultimania" and "CC ultimania" and certain translation corrections from "Thelifestream"
Careless Cloud Exactly, and I am seeing them everywhere instigating their propagandas at us. Those issues and interviews were decades old already, they are ignorning all the current hints SE is trying to tell us. Kingdom Hearts 1 for example, Nomura vaguely tells what was Cloud and Aerith’s relationship, his interview wasn’t even a definite answer, he just lets the people decide what it is, but the thing is in KH1 it seems Cloud was looking for someone and Aerith just happens to be ther, it wasn’t even disclosed Cloud was looking for her but Cleriths find this as a cannonical proof their ship is sailing - and here comes Kingdom Hearts 2, it was already implied the one Cloud who was looking for is Sephiroth all along and Tifa is his light. Still, most if not all Cleriths choose to ignore this and holds on tightly on Nomura’s very old interview and KH1. For crying out loud they even made Crisis Core and even brought Zack back to life - as if that is not enough proof which couple SE is preferring more.
Oof, the shipping war is real in here lol I hope they drive Cloud more towards Tifa in the next part. (SPOILER) I can't wait to see how they have her restore his mind back together when he gets Mako poisoning.
42:57 Honestly, I’m with aerith on this one. Tifa and Cloud are simply meant to be, it was fate that brought them together and no matter how far or how different things may be in the universe. They find each other. Cloud can watch and despair over Zack and Aerith, fight sepiroth or prevent the coming of meteor. But in the end, Tifa was always there. When he lost himself, when he needed to cry and when he needed some comfort at the end of the world. Tifa would always be there. In this scene, this one small scene, the music. It feels as if over decades of tension and hand grasping close calls are finally over. Cloud, at the start of this new time within the remake. Finally hugs and comforts Tifa when she needed it most, showing the boy who promised her to be a hero. A promised fulfilled time and time again as this story progresses. When the final ending comes to this series, it should end with cloud finally kissing the girl who sat with him on the water tower. The war is over soldier, its time to come home to her.
@@TheRazeluXE I have faith in this project but man if for whatever reason they don't put that scene in the game and make it just as good or better as what we've seen so far I'm gonna fu-... I'll be hurt deeply by it. 😞
Tifa’s the reason why he wanted to be in soldier in the first place anyway. Cloud had a crush on Tifa even way before they were kids and promised her that he would come back stronger just so he could protect her. It is also obvious in Crisis Core how canon their ship is when he saved her from Sephiroth. And also from the book, They started living together like family adopting Marlene and Denzel. He only left because he still felt guilty from Aerith’s death and was afraid he couldn’t protect anyone anymore. But it ended in Advent Children with him smiling at Tifa after letting go of his guilt. Aerith was there with Zack assuring him that everything will be alright. (And Aerith and Zack acts like Cloud is their adoptive son in Advent children with the way they talked in the movie) atleast that’s how I portrayed everything until suddenly a lot of people played the game shipping who on who.
They have the best chemistry and dynamic, out of all the cloud ships. They support each other and Tifa doesn’t invade his personal space like aerith/jessie. their entire story and history, they are bound to eachother and people will especially see this in future scenes ❤️
For sure like having those two ladies act so similiar - all teasing and outspoken just makes Tifa stands out more for me lol it makes her one of a kind
@@jae.raaa142Sephiroth, easily one of the most hated villains in gaming history, not because he's bad at being a villain, but because he was too good at it, and literally stabbed everyone's heart when he killed her...
I still get butterflies when I see their scene at 42:57. I know Tifa was crying, but Cloud just breaking his own wall and hugged her, to me finally showed his true feelings towards her. Idk, that's just how I interpreted it.
There’s a lot of great symbolism and artistic exhibition in this game. It’s such a rare treat these days. Like, at the very beginning of the game when they’re playing the opening theme, but the subtle hits of One-Winged Angel playing just beneath the surface was excellent foreshadowing for the tone of the game.
I know I was like HUG HER! JUST HUG HER! WHAT ARE YOUR ARMS GOOD FOR? then when he finally hugged her I clapped. I also clapped when he hugged her after jumping from train and the rolled over each other.
Jeez same, I was clenching my fists thinking JUST DO THE DAMN THING COME ON IM GONNA GET SO ANGRY ... this might have made the hug even better afterwards :)
That “you okay?” sold it for me that first time I saw this scene. Like holy shit the way Cloud says it so softly/seductively while they’re just inches apart and getting lost in each other’s eyes is one of the best scenes.
And when I first saw it I was like “Oh My Gosh!” That was one of the most beautiful scenes ever! And it looks like they were about to kiss too! And when I saw the “you ok?” part I almost passed out because of it and I always wanted them to get married! lol.
And _Oh_ god when Tifa cries..nothing to do with the voice-acting at this point, but for the majority of the game, when alone, Cloud and Tifa had been speaking to each other with some amount of deliberate, compositional emphasis on the distance between them: at the bar, in Tifa's apartment, in Cloud's apartment...Then the plates fall, and the first moment Cloud and Tifa have alone together she closes the distance between them, head down and fists balled, eyes already shrink-wrapped with tears. And she lets out the _deepest_ pain--pain that's probably been welling up inside her for who knows how long now. Pain that's all come to ahead with her home destroyed, again. And Cloud doesn't know what to do. Words fail him. He can't attack her troubles with a sword. He feels utterly helpless. So what does he do? He hugs her. He hugs her tight, tighter than anyone's ever hugged her, and even _that_ hurts her too. Damn. It's such a good established progression to show how far they've come and how far they have left to go in order to fully understand each other's feelings.
That was the best scene aside from the train. The metaphorical distance and physical distance closes. Sure, Cloud is still an awkward dork who doesn't know how to comfort anyone, but he tried. You could see the struggle on his face as he thought of things to say, almost spoke, then rejected them and stayed silent. Tifa's been strong and alone this entire time. She's had no one who knows exactly how she feels and then Cloud returns and she's so happy he's there, that she has someone to rely on and trust. I really hope they're still endgame and Square doesn't change the Mideel section even if they make Aerith live.
You nailed it. I don't think she was really "hurt" by the intensity of his grip as much as she was surprised at his momentary ability to overcome the layers of bullshit his personality is armored in. Her immediate reaction is to thank him for the comfort. Because she knows that unlike all the heroic theatrics his psyche lives and dies on - showing tenderness is actually what is hard for him. Can't wait for the rest of this to play out. Tifa is one of my favorite fictional characters ever. I'd be totally fine if they make her the lead for all of the 3rd game (assuming they make 4).
i was surprised how they portrayed cloud in this game. he seems more like how i imagined squall from ff8 to be than how i imagined cloud to be. i feel like cloud was a lot more apologetic in the original. in remake, you can clearly see he's suffering from PTSD.
@Silvana Sanchez Silvana Sanchez that's awesome!! You know what I realized? Although this mainly applies to the original game. When Cloud had that flashback with his mother. She told him she would like Cloud to date an OLDER woman because she'd "take care of him" but if you play play the game, you realize that, that's what Tifa did (although she is younger than Cloud) . She was trying to protect him from the truth early in the game, because she herself became unsure of the events from Last Order/Crisis Core. Also Tifa was the one that was willing to take care of him in Mideel. She was also the key to help Cloud regain his conscience and finally find himself. This is all in contrast of what Cloud and Aerith had going on. Where Aerith (the older girl) wanted Cloud to be her Bodyguard to protect her. Although that scene with Clouds mom serves no true purpose in fhe bigger picture of the game. It's just a nice detail that made me realize what's best for Cloud relationship wise in my opinion. The whole "older GF" comment that Clouds mom made was there to throw me off to think Aerith might have been the right girl for Cloud at first. Not that it should matter what a mother's opinion should factor into what one would truly desire, but you get the point. Just had to let it out since we're on similar topic, sorry for tbe long essay lol
@Silvana Sanchez Remind me of Naruto when his mother wanted him to marry someone like her i.e. Sakura in this case. Sure he got a crush, but in the end he married the byakugan princess and had two children with her. So obviously, mom don't know everything.
I'm really late to finally playing this game but gosh I'm in love with it. The relationship between the two really feels instant and so mature, loved their chemistry right off the bat. I shipped them since the first time I played it decades ago and I love how you can just feel the UST between the two every time they're on screen together. Can't wait for the next part.
Yeah, can't wait to see how their relationship deepens. Those 2 are in love. Have been since their teens and there's official statements to from Ultimanias ❤️ the love is MUTUAL. The thing I absolutely love about in their relationship is that they're believable with all their flaws and their relationship is REAL. You can CLEARLY see it on the screen.
@@kaage8780 Especially after ToTP confirms that Tifa also cared about Cloud as a child and she wasn't just the unattainable popular girl. They have real history and chemistry. The VAs and animators did such a great job of portraying their chemistry and feelings on screen.
yeah they really went hard with the tifa x cloud pair in this one, it seems tifa x cloud shippers got some inside guys working on it too lol i know clouds japanese VA is a hard tifa x cloud shipper and i think one of the directors too... hey im not against it lol, this game just made me ship it harder lol
The little microexpressions on all the characters, but especially Cloud, just get to me. Its so cute. Like when Tifa asks him if he's leaving Midgar anytime soon, clearly hoping he isn't, and Cloud gets this little smile in the corner of his mouth that he suppresses, cus he knows he's about to quote their water tower promise to her and he's happy she doesn't want him to leave. Its freakin' adorable.
@Kosename lucky for us there are plenty of good analysis in tumblr from a cloti side and from a ca shipper that don't have the same cult like mentality like them. :)
I thought he always went to Aerith. Like, he always got closer, had lots of skin contact with her and made excuses to get close to her. With Tifa he was all like, meh. Plus, Cloud has smiled more with Aerith than anyone else. I'm not changing my mind, so you can't attack me.
@@princessloveheartglitter I noticed that too. It's like the remake pushes Aerith and Cloud more. Cloud doesn't seem that interested in pursuing Tifa in the remake. Gestures, nuances, body language etc.
@@princessloveheartglitter I agree! I don't understand all these comments saying they are pushing Cloud and Tifa.. I didn't recall anything that stood out with Cloud being interested in her but Aerith he smiled, was more open and even rescued her. Cloud had way more cute scenes with Aerith then with Tifa.
Y'all wouldn't be in this video, if Cloud was really that loving with Aerith. I love how Cloud does all the opposite of what y'all are saying. He's so caring with Tifa...and the way he looks at her and calls her name. Aerith is shaking...oh wait, actually not, because she wants to see Zack again.
Agree! I remmeber when it was still an open question what everyone would look like in the final game. Imo they outdid themselves big times in the Remake.
No. Cody and Britt did phenomenal job as Cloud and Tifa. They sound EXACTLY how I wanted and imagined Cloud and Tifa to sound like. They're unbelievably good. Honey to my ears.
@@MrInuhanyou123 You don't know how boys work, do you? She was literally the only girl in the town, and she was super beautiful. Of course every boy liked her and wanted her attention.
Tifa is literally the only girl in nibelheim? Or you say that because there was never a focus on any other girls? To begin with its silly to assume without evidence that other kids only liked her because they had crushes on her which is stated nowhere in the original game
holitinne people thinking that Tifa might die in the next game do not understand the plot or narrative of the story at all. Plus if Tifa dies the huge backlash that SE will get would be insane, it will just cause “shock value” and honestly would be just bad writing. also, how will Cloud regain his memories without Tifa? The devs already said they are gonna follow the OG storyline so I’m pretty sure it won’t happen.
@@MrInuhanyou123 yeah because if someone was Cloud's light was supposed to be his romance....Riku is Sora's light did you see them falling in love xD . Also since you speak about KH go watch the Credits of the game on KH2 when they show the Canon couples which couple was shown...
Tifa: Cloud is that you? Oh my god..that make up..and that dress Cloud: Nailed it..I know..Thank you..Moving on.. One of the embarrassing moments for cloud..haha
I love how the original game has players wanting to ship either Aerith or Tifa, but this remake absolutely pushes Tifa and Cloud together. SE picked a side and I'm glad they picked the right one!
As someone preferring Aerith and Cloud, I can tell you that if you make different choices in the game, it absolutely feels like the remake is meant to be Aerith and Cloud. So nope, I don't think SE picked a side. They are going with both.
Well really I prefer tifa and cloud they just seem better together While zack and aerith are better together and from my understanding those are zacks memories of aerith that affect cloud but correct me if I’m wrong
fiprosha I agree with you even if I do prefer cloud and tifa’s relationship more. to be honest SE made it very clear that cloud has affection for both women, and that’s the point of the love triangle it’s kinda supposed to mirror how real life is. There isn’t one person that you like and you end up with, sometimes it gets complicated down the road, and in cloud’s case, the love triangle. Personally I just prefer cloud and tifa’s relationship because I mean there is no denying that he did like her as a child and true feelings can change but as you said before it’s really up to what the player’s choice is. To me, even after all that time, and making a promise I just don’t think feelings like that go away easily. I really do like Aerith as a character but I think the main reason why both Aerith and Cloud was attracted to each other to begin with was because partially Cloud adopted Zack’s persona and I just think there is no denying that this is the reason for their initial attraction to each other, BUT however as the story does progress I do think Aerith does like Cloud for more than just because he reminds her of Zack. I don’t know it’s really up to you and what you think but I just ship Tifa and Cloud more, but respects to my sis Aerith🤝
Everything about Cloud and Tifa together screams "actions speak louder than words". They're like magnets and it feels so organic how their affections develop! 🥰 Every Cloud and Aerith interaction is her teasing him or forcing him into something. She's having a bit of lighthearted fun that helps take her mind of missing Zack and she even kinda helps push Cloud and Tifa to be more open about their feelings for one another like an older sis (even though she is super childish and naive sometimes)
For me, Aerith is the only person who cares about those two pairs relationship better than anyone else, without having to be so blunt with it. Maybe it just me, I always see her as a person who is always very thoughtful and aware of everything around her, that always seems to be covered by her cheerful personality. That's why sometimes she's unpredictable. When she died in the original version I screamed why, but i only have myself to blame for feeling not doing good enough protecting her. I still can't forget that smile before Sephirot end her lives tragically, as if it says "it'll be alright." Very sad..
Dude... I havent played this yet. But if in this version Tifa and Cloud dont get together in this remake imma end my life. Look Aerith dies Cloud. Take the girl who was always way cooler and way hotter. Like bruh dont fuck this up Cloud.😂😂😂
I love this couple with a passion. To me its real care and romantic love. With Aerith to me its friendly flirting as she sees Zack in him. Plus she sees how Cloud and Tifa are together. I do think cloud had some romantic feelings for areith but in my opinion it was him believing he was Zack what made him that way.
It's pretty much revealed in the remake that he doesn't have romantic feelings towards her. Not actually in the OG either. Any official source doesn't defend their feel relationship like that.
can’t understand the wars but I am a CloTi fan but I don’t see Aerith to be a threat for Cloud and Tifa. I mean, she’s too nice to get mad with and Aerith doesn’t seem to be the cause of cloud and tifa getting mad at each other. Aerith was even the one who teases Cloud about the flower and she persuaded him to go help save Tifa. I guesses Aerith was trying to help Cloud to be more open and be more honest of his feelings to Tifa. BTW, Reno is still hot too.
For what it's worth, even in the original game, the two were practically BFFs and spent more time hanging around each other rather than with Cloud. The animosity, bitterness, and jealousy was entirely reserved for the fan clubs.
Haha, completely forgot that Rude had a massive crush on Tifa to the point it interrupted game mechanics. In any fight against him, Rude would not target Tifa until everybody else was knocked out and even then had a 1/3 chance of skipping his turn because he hesitates to attack her. Pity they didn't carry it over to the remake, but it does seem to spark up in cut scenes.
It does carry over, in the fight with rude and reno if you play as tifa rude will do a much less severe attack to tifa whereas he will do his strongest moves to cloud lol
@@NoctLightCloud and he always makes sure that Tifa looks perfect in the scenes. Toriyama tries to turn it down, but I'm so freaking glad that Nomura gets always the last word.
@@kaage8780 Agree! Also, we are having too "realistic-looking" characters in games the past few years and I'm not having it. (I am a woman myself and I see no problem in Tifa's design. No need to censor or tone down female body features when in reality I see such cup sizes around me (eg. in my family) anyways.) I see myself playing only Japanese games for years now. A major reason: The aestetics. Nomura's designs are just my cup of tea.
Can we just appreciate the fact that he’s smoother? I mean, his interactions with her. He’s just very honest now. In the original, he mentions Tifa not letting him into her group. And he calls her and the group immature, but only because he wanted to be near her. In the remake, he’s trying hard not to be immature yet still holding onto those feelings. He’s always near her. Any chance he gets. The warmness he speaks to her compared to anyone else. Am I making sense? I’m too happy with this game. Especially their chemistry and dialogue and ugh! I love it! Also! The moment I fell hard for this game and them, was how he didn’t even hesitate to give Tifa the flower! I was expecting it to be a choice again but no. This scene fucked me up man.
as far as i remember, his gripes were only with her group and never about her? i’m pretty sure Tifa wanted him to be part of the group but it was the rest of them that wouldn’t let him join or be able to spend time with Tifa, which he resented, and thought she was too ‘good’ for them. and that’s why in the flashback he tells her ‘i’m not like them’ aka the other boys in her group. i might be remembering wrong though
You know, the flower scene really evokes Zack in my mind. It just seems like his energy is all over that, which makes the hug at the end all the more meaningful. In a lot of ways, it’s the first time he’s really with Tifa, as himself. Zack didn’t have anything for him as far as situations like that were concerned. It wasn’t about theatrics, heroics or even the rhetoric and cliches he falls back on when things get serious. In that moment, Cloud had to be Cloud, and he chose to hug her with every moment of his feelings for her that he never got to share.
@@snarkysmile I recently played the game. And you're right about his gripe with her trio of friends. He thought her friends were childish and immature. Cloud never blames Tifa for anything. In the life stream Cloud mentions that he wanted to play with everyone but "they never let him in". I was curious so I looked it up and found it was a mistranslation. EN script: _I really wanted to play with everyone, but I was never allowed into the group._ JP script: 本当はみんなといっしょに遊びたいのに どうしても、仲間に入れてって言えなかった The Japanese script says that he wanted to play with everyone but he couldn't bring himself to join them. That made him bitter and he created the belief that he was different and better than them. This is another interesting tidbit that is revealing about Cloud's personality. When you first visit Tifa's house, the "anonymous" letter from the store owner's son to Tifa reads: _"Tifa, how are you? I just arrived in Midgar eight days ago."_ _"Yesterday, all of Nibelheim got together to welcome me. The only person that we couldn't get a hold of was Cloud."_ _"But everyone said he wasn't really that close to us. So even if we asked, he probably wouldn't have come anyway."_ _"Well, enough about him."_ The letter says that the friend just arrived in Midgar, The Nibelheim boys who left for Midgar gathered together to welcome this person. It also implies that the group of boys reached out to Cloud but wasn't able to and that Cloud was always aloof. I'm curious as to how old the letter is because Cloud was 16 years old in this flashback. The 2nd part of the letter addressed to Tifa is something I don't really get. Maybe someone has better thoughts on this. I've heard rumor's that this letter is from Johnny but that doesn't make sense, his parents live next door to 7th Heaven in Midgar so that makes him from Midgar. The most interesting thing Cloud says about the letter is, _"Because there was some stuff about me..."_ YET, there is no mention of him. At least not by name. Some of the lines could be tied into how Cloud must have felt about Tifa. This makes the letter strange and telling (especially since Tifa kept replying with "..." and Cloud's memory issues.) Tifa: "Cloud... Do you remember all of it?" Cloud: _(If you select:) "Yeah, I remember it all"_ Cloud replies with: *"Because there was some stuff about me..."* _(rest of the letter)_ "I just made it here to Midgar but all I think about is Nibelheim." ❓ _"Hey, Tifa... Is that stupid old water tower still working?"_ ❓ _"Is the old man at the Inn doing well? Are my parents still at the shop everyday? Have any monsters attacked?"_ "And most of all, how are you, Tifa? It feels like I haven't seen you for years." ❓ _"We were all talking about you last night."_ "Everyone likes you. But because everyone idolizes you, I couldn't very well stab them in the back." ❓ "I always acted cool, but actually, I was just afraid of being jilted." ❓ "Wow, if I keep writing like this, this'll become a love letter!" ❓ _"So, I think I'll stop here. Take care. I'll write again."_ _"P.S. Write me back, okay?"_ I put question marks on lines that seem questionable about what could be stuff that Cloud meant by, "stuff about me". This is just my perception on it. All I think about is Nibelheim (perhaps about a "certain" person named Tifa). Old water tower (a promise). How are you Tifa? It feels like I haven't seen you in years (he said he was going to be gone for a "long" time/2 years = 730 days/how much the thought of her). Everyone likes you...I couldn't very well stab them in the back (Cloud has a heavy case of notice me senpai syndrome). I always acted cool... afraid of being jilted (yep). ...this'll become a Love letter (it's not but it definitely is).
Many people say that it was Aerith's actions that softened Cloud's heart. And after playing through the game many times, I realized that's just not true. During the Jesse mission, the flashback with Tifa on the tower was what softened him up. That's when he started becoming his old self and started to care about other people. Aerith included. If Cloud hadn't softened up by the time he fell through the roof, he would have just shrugged off Aerith's bodyguard shenanigans and asked to be paid in gil.
Yeah, it's utterly bullshit that Aerith made him open up. Cloud already bonded with Avalanche and Tifa before he met Aerith. Only Cleriths don't see that or make up bullshit (like they usually do) from their heads. He had more serious conversations with Tifa too compared to Aerith, even with Avalanche. With Aerith it was more casual chit chat and in the end, Aerith wanted to know about Zack since she was interested in Cloud's SOLDIER-persona and Zack's mannerism. And it wasn't Aerith who first noticed the change in Cloud. It was Tifa.
@@kaage8780 If we're talking about how much attention they pay to Cloud, it's not even close. Tifa's the one always caring about Cloud. It really shows in chapter 17. When Tifa pointed out that Cloud was acting weird, Aerith thought that was just Cloud being Cloud. When Cloud collapsed, Tifa was the one keeping watch over him while he slept. When Cloud was made his stand against Rufus, Tifa was the only one who wanted to stay. And of course, she couldn't help herself and ran back for him.
Hey, that’s like half a movie right there. Sure, you could make loads of movies in that time, but we had FFVII in the beginning. They had a fair bit back then even if it was rudimentary.
Honestly now that the scenes that fans have been debating over for years will be now voice acted and cinematic, its going to start looking real bad for Aerith and Cloud shippers once we start getting to the last 3rd of the story. Tifa realizes she loves Cloud, Cloud's inner conscious confesses he's always loved Tifa to her surprise. Its going to be great, I may even shed a tear. The lifestream scene is the biggest piece of evidence to end the debate.
@Silvana Sanchez hahaha I've seen your comments for a while now and I love it lol. Can we be friends?!? 🤣 I saw how you went at it with this crazy ass Aerith / Cloud shipper who clicked on this vid that CLEARLY isn't Aerith centered JUST to start shit because they didn't like what they saw and it had me rollin lol. I don't understand how people take this shit so personally...I've been shipping these two since I was like 6 years old...I'm as hardcore of a CloTi fan as they come and I write and make drawings about and of these two but I don't force my ideas on people or start shit on Aerith and Cloud shippers...some people smh. It gives me joy and makes me giddy watching these two in fucking 4k...just breathtaking. I'm not going to mess with these hard core haters and waste my time arguing when the whole point of an argument is to make your point seem like the correct one...I have no interest in changing their minds nor do they have a remote chance changing mine so I don't bother. That guy was just a trip. Like your ship and be an adult about it man 😑 It's Cloud and Tifa though...always been and always will be ❤ Can't wait for Part 2 and 3. ...I....demand....THAT scene from under the Highwind...🤤
1:29 - For those who are wondering, 1. Tifa doesn't remember seeing Cloud during the Nibelheim incident, so it's 7 years for her: she did see him at the end of the Nibelheim incident when Cloud went to check on her after spoiler spoiler spoiler and after taking off his helmet, but her physical trauma/wounds from spoiler spoiler spoiler possibly clouded her memory of that. 2. Cloud, however, saw her 5 years ago at the Nibelheim incident but he was wearing a helmet due to feeling ashamed of spoiler spoiler spoiler. However, at this moment, he doesn't remember his exact role during the Nibelheim incident because of spoiler spoiler spoiler and - therefore - doesn't remember that he wore a helmet and that he was feeling ashamed then. 3. This is the reason why, when Cloud says "Has been five years.", Tifa replies, "Huh?".
Also looking back at crisis core and Advent Children...In my opinion I would say that Cloud never had a romantic interest in Aerith. He grew fond of her because his memories are intertwined with Zack. Or more so he thinks he is Zack in some way. He always wants to protect her because it was someone Zack knew and cared deeply about. If you remember Cloud also is extremely upset about her death, but not because he loved her, but because he failed to protect her just like he did with Zack.
@@Emily-ei3mk yea ... I literally prefer the relationship between tifa and cloud cuz they've known each other for a long time meanwhile cloud just got known to aerith for how long? ... A week?
@@Emily-ei3mk Did Cloud have Zack's memories? I thought Cloud's Zack-ness was only based on what Cloud personally saw Zack do and say. I don't remember Cloud seeing Zack and Aerith together for Cloud to base any familiarity with Aerith
@@anonymousraccoon8923 I guess memories is not the right word to use. Not quite sure if you recall but Cloud and Zack got subjected to the SOLDIER mako infusion process and had Jenova cells added to them by Hojo. But Since Zack had gone through a similar process a while before, his body resisted experiments. Cloud, however, fails to the testing and thus he develops a severe case of Mako poisoning. Hojo labels the two as failures and he then places them in a sleeping state and leaves them in their pods in the Shinra basement. Anyway years pass they both escape and Cloud sees Zack die) After that Cloud starts a transformation due to the combined trauma caused by the Nebelheim incident, his Mako poisoning, and witnessing Zack's death. He starts to apply Zack's memories (or so his story telling) and fighting abilities into his own. What emerges in Cloud's mind is a reality as if Zack did not exist and Cloud believes he was the one who did everything that Zack did. After that he ends up taking Zack's place. Cloud then presents himself in Midgar as a former 1st Class SOLDIER even thought he failed to ever become a SOLDIER. Sorry for the long response haha XD
Miranda Lawson Not to mention Cloud and Tifa’s relationship is, in a way, the backbone of this whole story too. She’s the reason he did anything and the reason he found himself later in the story. She’s also the person who helped him with his depression in Advent Children. Man, their story is so engrossing. I am so glad it’s so evident in the Remake, I can’t wait for part 2.
TheNameCannotBeFound yes!! Without Tifa there would be no reason for Cloud to want to join Soldier and be like sephiroth. Without Tifa cloud’s journey would have never started.
the scene at 41:24 hits harder than the kissing scene in the gondola for me. It shows Cloud finally crumple and be soft to support Tifa's outpouring of emotion. Like he finally steps up and is there for her emotionally.
Cloud and Tifa will always be the canon romance of FF7 to me. Cloud and Aerith seems more like cute puppy love to me; when Cloud started to fall in love with her, he's still in his fake SOLDIER persona. With Tifa, his true personality shines through and their romance is just more believable.
you can ship what you want but relying on crap like Cloud having no agency or awareness of himself in that persona, when he plainly does, to do so is sad.
@@whateversong3331 if he had awareness of himself, he wouldn't have been Cock-A-Doodle-Doo in the OG and there wouldn't have been any Lifestream scenes.
Aerith is sweet and all but she just acts so silly towards Cloud that I can't really take her seriously. Also, her bangs drive me insane. Tifa teases Cloud occasionally, but it doesn't feel nearly as awkward as when Aerith does it. She has a bomb character design, the slickest-looking fighting moves in the game, is the childhood friend, good with kids, makes good drinks. Tifa is best girl.
I like Aerith much more than in the original game but sometimes she’s still so annoying... After playing so many hours from chapter 8 to 13 with her i was so relieved that she was kidnapped and she’s not in my team anymore...
Tifa IS best girl. Too bad they ruined their relationship in advent children. They were together already 😐😭 if there's only a movie or game moments that portrays them being a couple, i can die very happy. I want Tifa to be with him, her childhood friend.
The subtext of that drink scene just hit me: The first drink he asks for, something bitter--his request is basically for a drink that is like himself. It's even yellow to match his most vivid color--his blonde hair. The drink is an obectal correlative for Cloud's emotions--but also, just for Cloud himself. The second drink Tifa gives him when the first doesn't impress him is the house special--it probably reflects her preferences more than any other drink on offer, and in so doing it reflects *her*. This is made even more clear given the fact that its coloration matches *Tifa's* most vivid color: the red from her arm-plates and her eyes. It's an objectal correlative for Tifa. When Cloud calls the second drink 'beautiful', he holds it up in his line of sight, putting it between himself and Tifa, looking at her through it. Overlaying Tifa's objectal correlative and Tifa herself. Both are beautiful.
I think this is where the game really shines. The dialogue and character interactions in the OG were pretty amazing in how natural they were. I love how this doesn't feel forced; but you can see Tifa is clearly invested in Cloud and cares about him, but she still keeps a distance.
The scene in the gardens was absolutely heart wrenching and beautiful. I remember seeing it for the first time, Tifa starting to tear up, and then she just winds up crying into Cloud’s chest and all I can think is “Hug her you idiot!” and when he finally does my heart just melts. It’s such a powerful, touching moment between them that shows how much Tifa trusts Cloud, and how easily Cloud’s walls are torn down around Tifa. The two just make each other better.
@Midnight Rainstorm I'm curious, who is top tier for you if Tifa is not? She's good looking, well-endowed, good with kids, can cook and generally kind. That's a great waifu material to me lol
42:26 My favourite moment, a large reason being the music. It slowly builds up in a crescendo, alongside the sound of her crying, then the hook for Tifa's Theme plays when he finally hugs her. The crying eventually stops and we get to enjoy this scene with only the music and nothing else. Dammit, so beautiful.
Tifa's got the natural 'come-hither' voice, which is an absolute crime when paired with that body. It should be illegal to be that innocently seductive.
Britt did _such_ an amazing job. _Ugh_ my god, you can hear that exacting, maternalistic warmth when Tifa speaks. The voice of a novelty tour guide: mature, vivacious, incisive..such a good job. She's perfect as Tifa. Especially at the beginning of the game, she does such a good job at having Tifa try and make Midgar seem as appealing as possible to Cloud--speaking to him in this accommodating and amicable gentleness; slightly pressing, firm, but always careful. She intonates Tifa's need and desire for Cloud to stay and stick around. The way she offers him room and board, the audible distress in her voice when she asks if he wants to talk about what happened after he left, the glee in her voice when she offers to mix him a drink, her timidity when she asks if he can stay in town, all of it is just this smooth mix of benevolence and anxious self-indulgence. Cloud's her only memento from back home. She wants to catch up. She wants to know what happened. It's been so long, too long.
She definitely did an amazing job bringing Tifa to life. So many subtle hints at Tifa's desire to spend time with Cloud just by the tone in her voice and the words she chooses carefully to sound accommodating without being needy or clingy. Her asking him to hit the town and dress up, making drinks for him, and even a very short voice-over during the trek to Sector 5 Reactor where Cloud just randomly says "that looks like Sector 4 down there" and Tifa quickly offers to take him there sometime. Tifa just seems like a real person with real shyness and insecurities, despite the fact she can destroy armored robots with just her fists.
And the way that her voice slowly cracks as Tifa recounts everything that she and Cloud have lost, before finally breaking down into tears as he struggles to comfort her... Oh my god, her performance was outstanding.
I love aerith, and she is my best girl, but it's pretty clear that tifaxcloud is better. I hope SE FINALLY settles this and give tifaxcloud a proper ending
Aerith says shes not ur girl tifa nodded the same no they love noone but me I saved there lives and my magic spells made it so they only love me as my playthrough of there games only matter to higher powers and them they dont care how u play as them
They both suck they head nod to me no they dont love cloud they love noone but me and ellie and abby from last of us nod yes to that to on a off screen u dont have the power i have u cant see them as i can so dont bother ur not worthy
They're simply blind, live in denial, didn't understand the plot and the characters. They don't know Aerith (I've seen it way too many times), they don't know Tifa and they don't know Cloud or the relationships between them 🤷♀️ as simple as that. CLERITH DOESN'T F*CKING EXIST, Cloud never loved Aerith nor Aerith Cloud. That's the whole f*cking point in his split-persona, which Clerith don't understand with their brains. He had Zack's memories (been stated officially and what else could it be since Cloud wasn't the real Cloud with Aerith? She NEVER KNEW Cloud, only Tifa does). Literally EVERYTHING references to Zack, but Clerith aren't smart enough to read between the lines. It isn't said in ANY official source that they had anything between them. Especially from Cloud towards Aerith. He only loved Tifa and that's been stated officially. They share romantic feelings and they ARE canon JUST like Zack and Aerith 🤷♀️ Nojima is a CloTi GOD, the official writer who has the last word and wrote Cloud to be with Tifa, Nomura who's official and original designer designed Tifa to be the perfect woman for Cloud, NOT Aerith. And they BOTH prefer Tifa like A LOT from the staff, even Nobuo Uematsu. They run against EVERYTHING that has been officially stated. Then they act like the devs don't know anything about their own f*cking game that THEY have planned and made 😂 pathetic. CloTi and Zerith is endgame,wheter they like it or not. Nojima will NEVER write or announce Clerith as a couple and canon why the f*ck would he??? 😂 After ALL these years?? 😂 those salty f*cktards even went to his official site to trash on him. Like that helps to make their ship canon 😂 Nojima doesn't give a f*ck about Clerith nor Nomura and will never write it as canon or favour their ship just because they demand and f*cking cry about it. If I remember right, he was even pissed at Cleriths (which is even more win for us 😂) . He loves Cloti and HE has planned with Nomura that they are a couple and canon. Since Final Fantasy VII is HIS story, not any f*cking Clerith's 🤘
As a new fan of FF in general it seemed to me that Aerith was his true love while Tifa is the childhood clichee. Only the Remake made me grasp that SE wants to push Cloud and Tifa together because it seems now, that it was always their intention. im very late but thats just how it looked, before the remake at least.
@@MichaSennin I'd argue that Aerith has complicated feelings for Cloud due to his similarities to her true love that is Zach. It's a situation where you want someone to be someone they're not. I believe she knows it and that's why she pushes Cloud towards Tifa. Cloud is also a mess and as far I as I know they never "date" post FF7 OG, Dirge of Cerberus, or Advent Children.
There’s a scene you forgot. The one where a train falls and Cloud saves both Tifa and Aerith, but he only asked Tifa if she’s okay. Plus Cloud’s body was protecting Tifa while he only had a hand for Aerith.
During the train graveyard part? Weird i'm pretty sure Cloud asked Clerith instead of Tifa in my game, maybe because i choose to pick her when they're in the sewer?
There was another too. I forgot which chapter but its about the falling debris. He asked if Tifa’s okay, he didn’t ask Barret or Aerith if they’re okay.
R WP You are also correct, there was also a scene when they all jumped down he asked “you okay” and Aerith replied first, but Tifa also replied afterwards, and a little bit after that scene I think around the train area, debris / a train fell and if you will watch in slow motion when Cloud says “run” then both girls ran, you can clearly see he runs towards Tifa’s direction and if you pause at the right moment, you’ll see Cloud’s left hand protected Aerith, but his right hand and his whole body protected Tifa. He then asks Tifa if she’s okay and Tifa replied “yeah”, then Aerith thanks Cloud for saving them both. :) (edit: typo)
Silvana Sanchez very true. You would think during that train falling scene, he should have been more concerned to Aerith since the train fell closer to Aerith, ofcourse he saved both girls but he was more concerned in protecting Tifa. I just have a feeling that in this remake, Cloud’s real persona is somehow resurfacing. Whenever he remembers his past, it’s always about Tifa and nobody else. We all know his first promise to someone was with Tifa and that’s to protect her always. Even in Kingdom Hearts 2, Cloud finally found his own inner golden light when he protected Tifa who was in danger from Sephiroth.
I've been shipping them ever since I played OG, which was 11 years ago. 11 year old me used to watch every single Cloud x Tifa amv on youtube, read many fanfics, and save every single Cloud x Tifa fan art I see. You don't know how happy I am right now, I DESERVE THIS KIND OF CONTENT
Meanwhile I knew about this ship for 11 years but never got into ff7 for some reason, but now falling hard into this cloti rabbit hole makes me think I wasted all those years. Ps if you know any good fics please recommend
The depth and friendly tone of this comment section is quite something. The theories, academic like views of subtle things happening in the game to pure love for the game and characters are just...splendid and wholesome in a way.
I know ryt? We get the occasional boobs comment but overall, the strong, shy, helpful, loyal personality of tifa shines..Go to tumblr... i love their analysis there.. pretty respectful to the other side too...
@@mm-cm6kc I mean, she do have sex appeal but so much more to Tifa. But yes, its nice discussions in here suprisingly, no one argues over some bullshit.
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She kinda a unique heroin, i think she the only heroin who's a fighter/monk class because most of the heroine's in final fantasy female characters are mages/healers or summoners
Hello?? You forgot Rikku from Final Fantasy 10. She is really sweet and beautiful designed ,too Or Rinoa from Final Fantasy 8 I personality prefer Rinoa over Tifa.
@kemuael yeah, but Zack didn't die in the remake. The Timelines changed. So Aerith is Now probably Zack's lover again. Cloud only has his first love Tifa now😁😁...Clerith shippers are defeated.
I haven't finished the game but I think SE has chosen their side. They cut a lot of cloud x aerith scenes and most of their romance interactions are optional. While for Cloud and Tifa, theirs are so natural and impactful. Flirting with her in subtle way, gets jealous whenever some guy are flirting with her, b ecome her knight in shinning armor, try to be nice to other people for her, putting her as his priority even when Aerith was there, like he doesn't give a shit about the latter. Sometimes it was Tifa who save Aerith when she was in danger, not Cloud. It's obvious Cloud favors Tifa so much. Especially the hugging part. I knew she is the one for him.
@Silvana Sanchez Hi again I always search for your comments cause they are rational and polite and they gimme kinda hope when I'm confused with some ppl's fake and complex ideas. I appreciate it I wanted to ask u where can I get this Ultamania plz?
1. All 3 of Cloud's VA (Takahiro Sakurai, Steve Burton, and Cody Christian) are Tifa fanboys, and they acknowledge that Tifa had the biggest impact in Cloud's life because she's the ONLY ONE who's allowed to explore Cloud's subconscious where his 'Secret wishes and tender feelings that NO ONE can know about' are kept, and is able to reveal the real Cloud. 2. Katsuyuki Yamazaki (Cloud's mocap actor) did a FF7R INTERGRADE live streaming gameplay earlier this year on his TH-cam channel, he elaborated most scene in the game that he acted out, and Cloud's relationship with other characters. And through that we can find out that: Tifa is Cloud's priority. Also, he mentioned that Cloud and Aerith have a sibling dynamic (sometimes he even called Aerith 'Onee-chan' which translates as 'Big sister' in Japanese). 3. Maximilian Dood (A huge FF7 fan since '97, and former Clerith shipper) - "Aerith is a good friend, but Tifa is the real waifu. She's the best". 4. Briana White (Aerith's VA) shipped Cloud and Aerith at first. But then, after she voiced and played Crisis Core Reunion, she changed course and fully became Zack and Aerith shipper. She even invited Caleb (Zack's VA) in one of her stream to do a live-signing of Zerith fanart, and at one point, they both gave out their opinion about Zack and Aerith's relationship, and both agreed that Zack and Aerith's influence 'brings out the best from each other' through knowing and loving each other (I recommend you to watch the full video on her Twitch. It's pretty chaotic with them being a couple of goofballs most of the time).
@Do You Are Have Stoopid? Cloud was a foot soldier and was embarrassed cause he said he will become a first class soldier and he came back to the village with Zack and Septhroite but he was in a mask so tifa doesn’t know he failed or he was there.
@@doyouarehavestoopid6589 He spent 2 years in a mako chamber but when he came to consciousness, he didn't know that 2 years had passed. Which is why Cloud has the mako eyes and superhuman strength/speed. He became a SOLDIER in body only, and not in title.
@@doyouarehavestoopid6589 Cloud is nowhere near Soldier level. He did previously applied to one but failed. Basically Hojo experiment on them, force Mako Energy to Cloud, this what make Cloud lose some of himself. To fill those, he take the identity of Soldier next to him, Zack~ Some of Memory shown in the game is actually Zack's
I just realized because of the 4 years being kept in test tube by Hojo, Cloud’s mind is actually 4 years younger than his body. All of those time in FF7, he was just a 17 years old boy who try to act like a 21 adult. No wonder why he was so cringey in this game.
He acts that way because of the fake persona he created to try to imitate Zack. This is one of the central points of this character that throughout history, ends up discovering that he was a SOLDIER only in his head. It has nothing to do with "mental" age or any such nonsense.
@@AlexanderPR2 ummm, you're very very very wrong. It's been stated that Cloud is mentally behind and acts weird because he has missed life experience being pickled so many years in mako. He IS mentally still 16. It has been stated officially many times. Even in OtWtaS Tifa realized when Cloud had problems recognizing the vegetables he had to deliver was because he missed so much during those years.
Here's the Cloud and Tifa Romance in Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth! th-cam.com/video/IcDD5sxASvg/w-d-xo.html
Aerith said "lovers used to give these when they were reunited" and Cloud immediately gives the flower to Tifa next time he sees her. xD Aw.
And when Aerith asked him who he gave it to, he lied because he knew Aerith would tease him.
He does it with a little suave look on his face, too. Same one when he gave her his "Beautiful" line about the drink later. For being so bad with people, our boy has game.
This comment reawakened my fangirl about this couple 😭
That means cloud love her she also love cloud nice couples keep it up
LopezV97 same girl! This couple is just the CUTEST! 👏🏻❤️
Literally Anybody: *says something remotely nice to Cloud*
Cloud: *my money?*
Facts! Especially when he was an asshole to the dude in Sector 5 who just wanted to see his wife grave 🤣
LMAO
thank u johnny
@@wsphh2692 NP, making people laugh one step at a time... oh wait
reminds me of Arthur Morgan
*tifa proceed to make drink with the same color as her eyes
*cloud put the glass up in front of tifa
cloud: beautiful
god damn so smooth
"Teach me, master!"
I KNOOOOOOO RIGHT 😂😂
Tifa: i gotta go
😂😂💖
cha cha real smooth
I love that part 😂
11:55 I really love that when Cloud takes the glass, he looks directly into Tifa's eyes as he says "Beautiful"
I love the way she reacts too, you can tell she's embarrassed but flattered. The designers did great.
I wonder if Tifa poured that to him on purpose, because she wanted to hear 'something sweet' ...
SO FREAKING BEAUTIFUL
well her eyes are red like cosmo canyon that's gonna be fun in rebirth unless it somehow doesn't make it there
and the fact that the drink matches the color of her eyes too... the devs knew what they were doing 😂😂
11:57 after Cloud says "beautiful", you can see Tifa turn away sounding flustered and she bites her lip. I love the little details they put here. Tifa just splooshed.
I played this on a 70" TV and didn't notice the subtle lip bite. That's lovely.
Bro, she actually did bite her lips when she turned back to him. Good catch!
Yeah amazing eyes. It was a nanosecond but yeah. It was there
I splooshed too ngl
She wanted that buster sword so badly
Fans: Cloud x Tifa
Cloud: Cloud x money
Nooo stop🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂
true
This man could give 2 fucks about woman he only care bout the bread
cloud x sephie-chan
Tifa: We look so much like a couple here!
Cloud: A couple of besties!
Clingy girl 1, "Cloud, whose it gonna be, me or Tifa!?"
Cloud: "my money."
Bob Bob underrated comment. I’ve been laughing for a while now
Later on it will be sephiroth
Secure the bag king
@Overlord Of Derp
thanos: gimmie rent
Captain America: You’ll get your money when you fix this DAMN DOOR!
Thanos: *g i m m i e r e n t*
*p a u n c h*
love the spider man 3 reference
Overlord Of Derp I’m gonna put some dirt in your eye
I really like the scene where tifa basically asked cloud on a date and even asked him to wear matching clothes to which cloud blatantly agrees immediately. To other character, when female character tries to flirt or even so much as to ask cloud for a date or call him 'my hero', clouds just just sigh/stare away/call them desperate. Yet for tifa, he is doing a lot of the subtle flirting himself lmao. Like giving her flowers, saying 'beautiful' while staring at her and making her blush, trying to impress her and play nice when he asks him to, plays hero and hugs her down the train. Not to mention the little jealous scene where the merchant says if cloud ever need a replacement as tifa's debt collector, he can always fill in to which cloud disgustedly says "in your dreams!".
They even have a theme song which plays everytime they seemingly starts getting affectionate to each other.
Plus, Cloud is an outcast and very distant but he is willing to do everything outside his comfort zone for tifa like making an effort of being more social/nice to people when tifa asked him to, help avalanche multiple times despite saying it's just for money, offer to help tifa get money for free even if she still owes him, refusing to leave even after he gets his money because tifa was in a 'tight situation', agree to crossdress to help tifa from Don corneo.
Tifa is the first and only girl cloud has ever tried to flirt willingly lmao
I mean, she is the whole reason he did everything leading up to the beginning of the game and held himself up despite all the crazy shit that happened to him. It kinda reminds me of Cap. Nothing special about him, except a crazy ammount of resilience
Tifa's little pogchamp
Thank you for this. A lot of ppl want to ship cloud and aerith but that's pure disrespect to Zack. You nailed it 👏🏻
@@mandyayuso9048 Why is it disrespectful to Zack? Lol… Well that doesn’t make sense
@@benfrank9622
That phrase is disgustingly hilarious
I rarely ship characters but Cloud and Tifa won me over the first time I played FF7. Remake is making me fall in love with them all over again.
lotusborn They have the best scenes together in this game!
Is the game out already or just Early released copies for reviewers?
Godsend TheGeneral It been out for a week....
@@ShadowofArts hahahhaha😂😂
Nah barret. Bro’s before hoes.
Can we all agree though that Cloud mentioned Tifa's name more than anyone in the entire game lol
Xulver Echo Is that a fact ? That’s a good point lmao, I didn’t notice it
@@Kiirze in the original Japanese dub, he says her name 40 times apparently
you should see the Japanese version lol he mentions tifa soooo many times, way more than in the English version
twitter.com/ff777ct_bot/status/1250656063059382274?s=20
Tifa... tifa... TIFA!!! 😆❤️
Well i tell you:
-When someone asks Cloud about Jessie "She still owe me a pizza."
-When someone asks Cloud about Aerith "Well, i saved her, she saved me... round and round it goes."
-When soneome asks or mentions Cloud about Tifa... *Vietnam War flashback*
The hardest part of the remake is having to stare at Cloud, Tifa, and everyone's insanely hot faces throughout the entire game
Main character of some game.
Mortal, I am a greater daddy material.
"Everyone's insanely hot faces"
Oh yes, Hojo and Palmer are super hot, alright :P.
I am ashamed to admit that I also got second hand embarrassment playing this game lol
residentevil4life honestly yea🤣
Even the kids
16:00 I love this one. Where he talks about her and their past in the third person. It’s simple but playful enough that it opens up another side of cloud
I love it when he raised the drink and complimented her, that was smoother than the drink itself
@@shivamarya5225agree. Cloud is basically too lenient for this.
42:57 God this is a beautiful scene. Cloud breaking down his own walls to hug her and then finally realising that she is, what he always wanted and needed. He got so lost while hugging her that he even hurt her. Their relationship is truly beautiful. I hope Square brings them together.
You can say that again
Cringe
@@ssjssgecko5411 no you
Its going to happen lmfao. Tifa was specifically designed to be the girl that ends up with Cloud. And the supplemental material like the official databooks and guides confirm that they confirmed their mutual romantic feelings with each other and that she became his "Koibito" or lover lmfao
@@ssjssgecko5411 come on we all know this is the best time to pull out a girl. Unless you are gay 🤣
Literally as soon as he meets Tifa, and after being told what Aerith's flower symbolizes, Cloud always gives it to Tifa. In the original game, you could give it to either Tifa or Marlene, but the remake makes the choice for you. They are pushing Tifa as Cloud's love interest so much harder than the OG and I love it!
Yes, but in the original when you give it to Marlene, as far as I could tell tifa loved that too.
"They are pushing Tifa as Cloud's love interest so much harder than the OG and I love it!"
Agree!
the flower is actually more representative of aerith, there's even a trophy and chapter titles to push this. Tifa herself attributes the flower to aerith. Since this would not actually be cloud and tifa's reunion in the timeline. Cloud "can't recall"where the flower went and denies interest in tifa outright.
What Eversong What? I thought when Aerith asks him who he gave the flower to he says “can’t recall” to simply get Aerith to stop asking questions. What are you talking about
Agreed. What I find interesting is that Square Enix seems to be trying to acclimatize Clerith shippers to this. SE has already made it clear that they themselves prefer the Cloti and Zerith ships, judging from statements made repeatedly in the Ultimanias and developer interviews (see user Squall_of_SEEDs analysis of the Love Tirangle Debate on thelifestream.net for more detail). The devs seem to have taken this acclimatizing approach to narrative design as well, because ALL THREE versions of the scene in Chapter 14 of Remake could theoretically be canon--Cloud first dreams about Aerith meeting him in the garden and so wakes up, then goes out to that same garden and sees Tifa, whom he comforts as she cries over the loss of Sector 7, and then as she goes back inside to get some sleep, Cloud hangs back for a few moments just to chat with Barret and reconcile over their prior hostilities.
Y'all do realize Cloud lifting his drink and saying beautiful is not only referencing to her eyes it's also so he can get an excuse to call her beautiful lmao would these two please just kiss already it's been decades LET US HAVE A KISS AT LEAST
Cloud had sex with her in og final fantasy game
They bang in the og ff7 under the high wind scene
@@omiorahman6283 WAIT WHAT HOW??? WHY DID I MISSED THIS LMAOOAOAO
@@Plxvio certain conditions have to be fulfilled.
Barret watches them...
Nah dog this is 20+ years in the making, I need to see some fucking. 🤷🏾♂️😂
24:22 if a man willing to crossdress for you, marry him
me who crossdressed for my sister
oh hell no
@@oishidaifuku9745 yikes, sweet home alabama
@@oishidaifuku9745 god have mercy
@@oishidaifuku9745 .......why?
@@sakesithole6295 lost to a card game
Cloud’s an actual legend, all he wants is his money
He gets his money from to nook heard tom owns him 2 millions bells
DragonSquirrel 7 thats my brother choosing money over his gf 😂 anyday......thats so sad 😐
That why he bang her on CD3 in Highwind.
Finally she give him his money .
First the money then the bitches it's a rule of life.
Sakurai probably shoved a pretty penny into blade boy's pocket for him to join Smash, double for Ultimate
3:29 me going try to talk my crush but she's talking to a better looking guy. So I'm gonna walk away spinning around
Hahahahaha! That guy is weird lol!
@@Sugalover88 this guy are sick
Been there
@@einharjar I understood that reference
I'm dead 😂😂😂
27:16 i don’t know why I laughed at this bit on my first play through.
“Nailed it, I know, thank you.” Such a quick answer 😂
Edit: oh my god they referenced it in Rebirth, start of Chapter 8 after the Dio scene
He was embarrassed, poor baby :')
It was said that Cloud was already thinking of what to say once Tifa sees him wearing that outfit and thats what he came up with lol
HAHAHAHHA I CANT STOP LAUGHING
@@NoushaugaCloud always thinking of Tifa for 4 years.
Everyone did. Clouds line is unbeatable
I feel like Aerith balances Cloud’s personality very well since she’s more flirty and extroverted.
I won’t be surprised if he had a crush on her. And I say crush because they only spent like, 2 days together
Their relationship is like, a dreamy, cute, delightful, almost perfect, illusion but ephemeral. Reminds me of animes.
Whereas Tifa and Cloud’s relationship, is more realistic, feels more natural tends to focus on the real world and its events, not always happy, it has ups and downs, joy and tears just like any couple in real life.
At the end, it’s up to the player to choose how to interpret these relationships.
For me, I’d go with Cloud and Tifa. Not only because realism works well with me, but also because their relationship was build up from the start with so many events, and yet they’re still here, standing strong and caring for each other. They are both similar which might be boring in a relationship, but that’s what appeals to me. And their back story has so much impact, it makes their relationship endearing.
EDIT : It seems to me that in the game, Aerith is more pushing Cloud and Tifa together than thinking about Cloud lol. Cloud and Tifa just feels right to me.
Whats your history with ff7?
Can’t agree more! 🙏🏽
Not every relationship has to be the stereotypical "opposites attract" for it to be interesting. Someone hasnt played the original
mintybunny Yeah I agree with you on that
mintybunny I haven’t, but in any case I still prefer Tifa and Cloud’s relationship regarding my own taste. It doesn’t really change anything as I’m mostly talking about the remake.
I just love the fact that Cloud is being natural/true with Tifa. By that I mean, being comfortable and showing his « real » persona.
I swear these guys... they're basically the characters that are dating each other without actually realizing it
True haha, that last scene says it all xD
@@ravenriverdale9381 Don't wanna break your hurt but when I see how Cloud is with Tifa in AC and Case of Tifa, I kinda feel like she deserves someone who really likes her, someone who isn't always thinking about another girl when they are together
@@daeith1233 In AC, cloud just feels guilty about what had happened to aierith. He blames himself for her death and feels as if he could have prevented it. Plus he had the sickness of geostigma, so he could have felt like he didn't want to infect them. It's the typical "If I'm alone, no one else I care about will get hurt." mindset. Tifa wanted to show Cloud that this wasn't the case, but he was blinded by guilt. Tifa was the only one who knew that Cloud had fake memories during the events of the original FF7, yet she still stuck by his side and his whole reason to get into the SOLDIER program was to get stronger so that Tifa wouldn't get hurt again. Plus, Tifa is mentally older than Cloud, as Cloud lost about 5 years of his life due to being in a comatose state at shinra, so mentally, he's still an edgy teenager going through the motions of learning how to deal with emotion.
@@rabbitzuu5246 clous said indirect l’y That he loves aerith
@@joyboyoux He loves Aeris, but he's not IN LOVE with her. There's a huge difference.
And where did Cloud say that exactly? They're known each other like couple of days so I doubt that very much.
I will literally cry in heavy tears if Tifa's theme plays during Cloud's mental breakdown in Mideel. Young'uns may ship Clerith because it's cutesy, but when I saw how Tifa took care of Cloud in Mideel, that just sealed the cake. Tifa never left Cloud's side even though in the very beginning, she knew Cloud was "lying" about his past. That's true love right there.
Exactly!! Tifa stays by Clouds side through thick and think and always takes care of him. He is her home. Both Cloud and Tifa's home got destroyed and both endured so much trauma, Cloud more trauma but even through all of that Tifa loved him at his best and his worst that is true love she has loved him since she was a kid and never stopped ❤️
@@tobytheshih-tzu6329same goes to Yukiko and Yu Narukami in Persona 4. Rise and Yukiko consider Yu as their true home as well.
IMO Aerith is too extrovert for Cloud... Tifa on the other hand is the perfect level of "onee-chan" for him. 😂
Just to be clear I like Aerith more than tifa but as a pairing I prefer cloud-tifa.
"Sealed the cake"??
Aerith helping Cloud realise his feelings for Tifa is so sweet
FFX-WILL is cannon too and it's bullshit so yeah...
Silvana Sanchez 💯💯💯
Lol I like you already, I’ve seen you everywhere defending CloTi with those unfortunate delusional Clerith fans.
I don’t mind Clerith having their own ship and likes, in fact everyone is free to ship whoever they like may it be cannon or not. The problem here is recently a lot of Clerith fans are so triggered that they keep bombarding their own opinions especially to Cloti and what’s worse they are doing it on Cloti places like this video for example. Pity, but laughable at the same time.
Even in this remake, Aerith seems to be denying Cloud and she keeps pushing Cloud and Tifa together. She even smiles happily when she found out the flower she gave was given to Tifa. She is still pining over Zack. Even at the end of the game she indirectly says she misses him, but I bet Cleriths will just ignore those hints and would keep on imposing what they think is right. Lol.
I don’t give a damn if Clerith continues to ship Cloud and Aerith for as long as they like, I won’t even bother changing their minds, but I cannot keep quiet when they keep shoving us their own opinions at us as if that will ever change our minds.
@@LiriBrightstar They also have a habit of bringing up old downdated sources like ultimanias before the compilation and external games like kingdom hearts as well as "the maiden the travels the planet" and have a habbit of ignoring the new ones like the "FF 20th anni. ultimania" and "CC ultimania" and certain translation corrections from "Thelifestream"
Careless Cloud Exactly, and I am seeing them everywhere instigating their propagandas at us. Those issues and interviews were decades old already, they are ignorning all the current hints SE is trying to tell us. Kingdom Hearts 1 for example, Nomura vaguely tells what was Cloud and Aerith’s relationship, his interview wasn’t even a definite answer, he just lets the people decide what it is, but the thing is in KH1 it seems Cloud was looking for someone and Aerith just happens to be ther, it wasn’t even disclosed Cloud was looking for her but Cleriths find this as a cannonical proof their ship is sailing - and here comes Kingdom Hearts 2, it was already implied the one Cloud who was looking for is Sephiroth all along and Tifa is his light. Still, most if not all Cleriths choose to ignore this and holds on tightly on Nomura’s very old interview and KH1. For crying out loud they even made Crisis Core and even brought Zack back to life - as if that is not enough proof which couple SE is preferring more.
Oof, the shipping war is real in here lol
I hope they drive Cloud more towards Tifa in the next part. (SPOILER) I can't wait to see how they have her restore his mind back together when he gets Mako poisoning.
Cloud and Tifa after they jump off
me: *NOW KISS*
Yes! Someone understands me!!
Lol
Same
“NOW KITH!”
Tifa was waiting for Cloud to hug her like that.
42:57 Honestly, I’m with aerith on this one.
Tifa and Cloud are simply meant to be, it was fate that brought them together and no matter how far or how different things may be in the universe. They find each other.
Cloud can watch and despair over Zack and Aerith, fight sepiroth or prevent the coming of meteor.
But in the end, Tifa was always there. When he lost himself, when he needed to cry and when he needed some comfort at the end of the world. Tifa would always be there.
In this scene, this one small scene, the music. It feels as if over decades of tension and hand grasping close calls are finally over.
Cloud, at the start of this new time within the remake. Finally hugs and comforts Tifa when she needed it most, showing the boy who promised her to be a hero.
A promised fulfilled time and time again as this story progresses.
When the final ending comes to this series, it should end with cloud finally kissing the girl who sat with him on the water tower.
The war is over soldier, its time to come home to her.
yeah... sadly. Elder Scrolls 6 will probably release first before this gets finished xD
Wow, amen to this. You said everything beautifully.
Well she’s the one who’s gonna fix him by jumping into a pool of mako ☺️
@@TheRazeluXE I have faith in this project but man if for whatever reason they don't put that scene in the game and make it just as good or better as what we've seen so far I'm gonna fu-... I'll be hurt deeply by it. 😞
I got goosebumps
Tifa’s the reason why he wanted to be in soldier in the first place anyway. Cloud had a crush on Tifa even way before they were kids and promised her that he would come back stronger just so he could protect her. It is also obvious in Crisis Core how canon their ship is when he saved her from Sephiroth. And also from the book, They started living together like family adopting Marlene and Denzel. He only left because he still felt guilty from Aerith’s death and was afraid he couldn’t protect anyone anymore. But it ended in Advent Children with him smiling at Tifa after letting go of his guilt. Aerith was there with Zack assuring him that everything will be alright. (And Aerith and Zack acts like Cloud is their adoptive son in Advent children with the way they talked in the movie) atleast that’s how I portrayed everything until suddenly a lot of people played the game shipping who on who.
They have the best chemistry and dynamic, out of all the cloud ships. They support each other and Tifa doesn’t invade his personal space like aerith/jessie.
their entire story and history, they are bound to eachother and people will especially see this in future scenes ❤️
Period
Blaziken Well said!
Lmfao think he wants his personal space invaded was you keeping your social distancing in the game too 😂😉
For sure like having those two ladies act so similiar - all teasing and outspoken just makes Tifa stands out more for me lol it makes her one of a kind
But when Tifa does get into cloud’s personal space, you can instantly feel that tension
I really think Aerith is trying to push Cloud and Tifa together.
is 31:07 also her doing that to make tifa jealous
@@Cocokitty98 I think Aerith is trying to give Tifa a little push through some teasing.
Yeah u can see from the look in her eyes loool, i hate sephiroth mainly cos of her :’)
I thought I was the only one who noticed this...
@@jae.raaa142Sephiroth, easily one of the most hated villains in gaming history, not because he's bad at being a villain, but because he was too good at it, and literally stabbed everyone's heart when he killed her...
Cloud: "Beautiful"
Tifa: *Bites her lip
Me: "Awesome"
Just noticed the lip bite 11:55
Holy fucking shit. I have replayed this so many times. I never fucking noticed the lip bite! The fangasming is hard 😂
I honestly hate love triangles, no one is happy about it. but I DO see that Tifa is honestly the one and only for cloud.
I too, hate love triangles. It is the most BS way of inciting drama.
You know it's calculated. It will be duet, soon.
Don’t worry it will be only two soon
Tifa vs Aerith drama is gonna be like TW3’s Yennefer vs Triss drama all over again and i’m so not looking forward to the wars.
@@snarkysmile Tifa vs Aerith ship wars is now more than 20 years long iirc. I really wish SE just end it already, it's exhausting lol
I still get butterflies when I see their scene at 42:57. I know Tifa was crying, but Cloud just breaking his own wall and hugged her, to me finally showed his true feelings towards her. Idk, that's just how I interpreted it.
I don't care. I love both Aerith and Tifa they doing a good job. This remake is such a treat.
There’s a lot of great symbolism and artistic exhibition in this game. It’s such a rare treat these days. Like, at the very beginning of the game when they’re playing the opening theme, but the subtle hits of One-Winged Angel playing just beneath the surface was excellent foreshadowing for the tone of the game.
I literally cried it was so nice
tfw i didnt even get that scene
Yup, i was moved :)
I swear, I was gonna lose my shit if Cloud didn't hug Tifa when they were at Aerith's place.
I know I was like HUG HER! JUST HUG HER! WHAT ARE YOUR ARMS GOOD FOR? then when he finally hugged her I clapped. I also clapped when he hugged her after jumping from train and the rolled over each other.
Jeez same, I was clenching my fists thinking JUST DO THE DAMN THING COME ON IM GONNA GET SO ANGRY
... this might have made the hug even better afterwards :)
Kel Goo when does he hug tifa?
Bisami Blanche their obviously good for massaging..
I was screaming
3:30 meanwhile in the background, a man is practicing his beyblade impression
LMAO that caught me off guard
BOI! ✋😂
That “you okay?” sold it for me that first time I saw this scene. Like holy shit the way Cloud says it so softly/seductively while they’re just inches apart and getting lost in each other’s eyes is one of the best scenes.
I knnnnnoooow gets me everytime 😍
They so cute ❤❤❤
oh man I love that to...so soft yet caring!
Lmao Aerith had to persuade Cloud to save Tifa.
Sameeeee that’s soooooo freaking cute😍😍😍😍😍🥰🥰🥰🥰
And when I first saw it I was like “Oh My Gosh!” That was one of the most beautiful scenes ever! And it looks like they were about to kiss too! And when I saw the “you ok?” part I almost passed out because of it and I always wanted them to get married! lol.
And _Oh_ god when Tifa cries..nothing to do with the voice-acting at this point, but for the majority of the game, when alone, Cloud and Tifa had been speaking to each other with some amount of deliberate, compositional emphasis on the distance between them: at the bar, in Tifa's apartment, in Cloud's apartment...Then the plates fall, and the first moment Cloud and Tifa have alone together she closes the distance between them, head down and fists balled, eyes already shrink-wrapped with tears. And she lets out the _deepest_ pain--pain that's probably been welling up inside her for who knows how long now. Pain that's all come to ahead with her home destroyed, again. And Cloud doesn't know what to do. Words fail him. He can't attack her troubles with a sword. He feels utterly helpless. So what does he do? He hugs her. He hugs her tight, tighter than anyone's ever hugged her, and even _that_ hurts her too. Damn. It's such a good established progression to show how far they've come and how far they have left to go in order to fully understand each other's feelings.
Cloud needs to learn how to deal with certain problems,
_Without a Sword_
That was the best scene aside from the train. The metaphorical distance and physical distance closes. Sure, Cloud is still an awkward dork who doesn't know how to comfort anyone, but he tried. You could see the struggle on his face as he thought of things to say, almost spoke, then rejected them and stayed silent. Tifa's been strong and alone this entire time. She's had no one who knows exactly how she feels and then Cloud returns and she's so happy he's there, that she has someone to rely on and trust. I really hope they're still endgame and Square doesn't change the Mideel section even if they make Aerith live.
You nailed it. I don't think she was really "hurt" by the intensity of his grip as much as she was surprised at his momentary ability to overcome the layers of bullshit his personality is armored in.
Her immediate reaction is to thank him for the comfort. Because she knows that unlike all the heroic theatrics his psyche lives and dies on - showing tenderness is actually what is hard for him.
Can't wait for the rest of this to play out. Tifa is one of my favorite fictional characters ever. I'd be totally fine if they make her the lead for all of the 3rd game (assuming they make 4).
you wrote fanfiction back in the day, didn't you? :p
_(I jest)_
i was surprised how they portrayed cloud in this game. he seems more like how i imagined squall from ff8 to be than how i imagined cloud to be. i feel like cloud was a lot more apologetic in the original. in remake, you can clearly see he's suffering from PTSD.
Both Cody Christian (Cloud's English VA) and Takahiro Sakurai (Cloud's Japanese VA) ship Cloti. Just saying.
ibr back
YES!!!!!!
@Kosename really?!
@Silvana Sanchez Silvana Sanchez that's awesome!! You know what I realized? Although this mainly applies to the original game. When Cloud had that flashback with his mother. She told him she would like Cloud to date an OLDER woman because she'd "take care of him" but if you play play the game, you realize that, that's what Tifa did (although she is younger than Cloud) . She was trying to protect him from the truth early in the game, because she herself became unsure of the events from Last Order/Crisis Core. Also Tifa was the one that was willing to take care of him in Mideel. She was also the key to help Cloud regain his conscience and finally find himself. This is all in contrast of what Cloud and Aerith had going on. Where Aerith (the older girl) wanted Cloud to be her Bodyguard to protect her. Although that scene with Clouds mom serves no true purpose in fhe bigger picture of the game. It's just a nice detail that made me realize what's best for Cloud relationship wise in my opinion. The whole "older GF" comment that Clouds mom made was there to throw me off to think Aerith might have been the right girl for Cloud at first. Not that it should matter what a mother's opinion should factor into what one would truly desire, but you get the point. Just had to let it out since we're on similar topic, sorry for tbe long essay lol
@Silvana Sanchez You're spot on! 👌
@Silvana Sanchez Remind me of Naruto when his mother wanted him to marry someone like her i.e. Sakura in this case. Sure he got a crush, but in the end he married the byakugan princess and had two children with her. So obviously, mom don't know everything.
I'm really late to finally playing this game but gosh I'm in love with it. The relationship between the two really feels instant and so mature, loved their chemistry right off the bat. I shipped them since the first time I played it decades ago and I love how you can just feel the UST between the two every time they're on screen together. Can't wait for the next part.
Yeah, can't wait to see how their relationship deepens. Those 2 are in love. Have been since their teens and there's official statements to from Ultimanias ❤️ the love is MUTUAL. The thing I absolutely love about in their relationship is that they're believable with all their flaws and their relationship is REAL. You can CLEARLY see it on the screen.
@@kaage8780 Especially after ToTP confirms that Tifa also cared about Cloud as a child and she wasn't just the unattainable popular girl. They have real history and chemistry. The VAs and animators did such a great job of portraying their chemistry and feelings on screen.
yeah they really went hard with the tifa x cloud pair in this one, it seems tifa x cloud shippers got some inside guys working on it too lol i know clouds japanese VA is a hard tifa x cloud shipper and i think one of the directors too... hey im not against it lol, this game just made me ship it harder lol
@@sionan7937seems like the one voiced Tifa also as amazing as Tomori Kusunoki who voiced the GOAT, Setsuna Yuki.
@@shinobu23942023 still is.
The little microexpressions on all the characters, but especially Cloud, just get to me. Its so cute. Like when Tifa asks him if he's leaving Midgar anytime soon, clearly hoping he isn't, and Cloud gets this little smile in the corner of his mouth that he suppresses, cus he knows he's about to quote their water tower promise to her and he's happy she doesn't want him to leave. Its freakin' adorable.
@Kosename lucky for us there are plenty of good analysis in tumblr from a cloti side and from a ca shipper that don't have the same cult like mentality like them. :)
I love how Cloud always goes to Tifa when he thinks she's in distress.
I thought he always went to Aerith. Like, he always got closer, had lots of skin contact with her and made excuses to get close to her. With Tifa he was all like, meh. Plus, Cloud has smiled more with Aerith than anyone else. I'm not changing my mind, so you can't attack me.
@@princessloveheartglitter I noticed that too. It's like the remake pushes Aerith and Cloud more. Cloud doesn't seem that interested in pursuing Tifa in the remake. Gestures, nuances, body language etc.
@@princessloveheartglitter I agree! I don't understand all these comments saying they are pushing Cloud and Tifa..
I didn't recall anything that stood out with Cloud being interested in her but Aerith he smiled, was more open and even rescued her. Cloud had way more cute scenes with Aerith then with Tifa.
Y'all wouldn't be in this video, if Cloud was really that loving with Aerith.
I love how Cloud does all the opposite of what y'all are saying.
He's so caring with Tifa...and the way he looks at her and calls her name.
Aerith is shaking...oh wait, actually not, because she wants to see Zack again.
@@laurajanco2i wait til they discover about Nojima's Traces of Two Pasts. It's always Cloud and Tifa.
man my eyes are just glued to tifa each time she's on screen, developers did a great job in character design for all of the characters
Agree! I remmeber when it was still an open question what everyone would look like in the final game. Imo they outdid themselves big times in the Remake.
100% agreed. The character models in the remake look great. Can't wait to see future characters in other parts
@@Kagetora-well secretly Setsuna Yuki also a big fan of all those characters from FFVII.
Am I the only one who finds Cloud and Tifa's voices so sexy and perfect? They really nailed the voice acting in this game!
No. Cody and Britt did phenomenal job as Cloud and Tifa. They sound EXACTLY how I wanted and imagined Cloud and Tifa to sound like. They're unbelievably good. Honey to my ears.
Fun Fact: The reason Cloud joined SOLDIER was to impress Tifa, he has been in love with her since they were kids, like every boy in Nibelheim.
not other boy liked tifa except cloud, she was just popular with other kids
MrInuhanyou123 Literally all her friends were boys they definitely wanted attention from her at least in the original.
@@MrInuhanyou123 You don't know how boys work, do you? She was literally the only girl in the town, and she was super beautiful. Of course every boy liked her and wanted her attention.
Wow that's why..
Tifa is literally the only girl in nibelheim? Or you say that because there was never a focus on any other girls? To begin with its silly to assume without evidence that other kids only liked her because they had crushes on her which is stated nowhere in the original game
Cloud is so endearing when he’s around Tifa
Cloud and Tifa are always sweet together. How seductive that scene was!
I hope square enix is aware of how many people support this couple
I mean its canon so im sure they do...i mean they went out of their way to make tifa clouds light in a completely different spinoff franchise(kh)
That’s why they’ll kill her instead of Aerith.
holitinne people thinking that Tifa might die in the next game do not understand the plot or narrative of the story at all. Plus if Tifa dies the huge backlash that SE will get would be insane, it will just cause “shock value” and honestly would be just bad writing. also, how will Cloud regain his memories without Tifa? The devs already said they are gonna follow the OG storyline so I’m pretty sure it won’t happen.
They are aware, they're ways together in non-FF media. Also Cloti is peak slow burn. Jfc.
@@MrInuhanyou123 yeah because if someone was Cloud's light was supposed to be his romance....Riku is Sora's light did you see them falling in love xD . Also since you speak about KH go watch the Credits of the game on KH2 when they show the Canon couples which couple was shown...
I love how most of Cloud's inner and outer dialog consists of "Tifa!" Lol
There's a video somewhere. Tifa's name was said probably over 100 times during the whole Remake.
"TIFAAA"
The voice acting is this remake is almost perfect, like holy christ it's so good
Wait till you hear Zack's VA
@@shckum23 exactly :'(
Because it fits with the sound in my head when i play the OG one
@@shckum23 yeah gotta say that voice doesnt fit him at all
@@chocolatephone7840 he butchered those memorable lines so hard
Tifa: Cloud is that you? Oh my god..that make up..and that dress
Cloud: Nailed it..I know..Thank you..Moving on..
One of the embarrassing moments for cloud..haha
He kinda looks like Lightning...
EdsonTHEmonsoon o damn ur right.
@@EdsonTHEmonsoon How about Thunder Head
@@EdsonTHEmonsoon ikr, that's what i thought too.
@@EdsonTHEmonsoon lightning's looks where based on cloud so they would look similar in some way
I love how the original game has players wanting to ship either Aerith or Tifa, but this remake absolutely pushes Tifa and Cloud together. SE picked a side and I'm glad they picked the right one!
Actually, it depends on your choice during your playthrough
In part 3 10 years down the road under the airship we might actually see it going in.
As someone preferring Aerith and Cloud, I can tell you that if you make different choices in the game, it absolutely feels like the remake is meant to be Aerith and Cloud. So nope, I don't think SE picked a side. They are going with both.
Well really I prefer tifa and cloud they just seem better together
While zack and aerith are better together and from my understanding those are zacks memories of aerith that affect cloud but correct me if I’m wrong
fiprosha I agree with you even if I do prefer cloud and tifa’s relationship more. to be honest SE made it very clear that cloud has affection for both women, and that’s the point of the love triangle it’s kinda supposed to mirror how real life is. There isn’t one person that you like and you end up with, sometimes it gets complicated down the road, and in cloud’s case, the love triangle. Personally I just prefer cloud and tifa’s relationship because I mean there is no denying that he did like her as a child and true feelings can change but as you said before it’s really up to what the player’s choice is. To me, even after all that time, and making a promise I just don’t think feelings like that go away easily. I really do like Aerith as a character but I think the main reason why both Aerith and Cloud was attracted to each other to begin with was because partially Cloud adopted Zack’s persona and I just think there is no denying that this is the reason for their initial attraction to each other, BUT however as the story does progress I do think Aerith does like Cloud for more than just because he reminds her of Zack. I don’t know it’s really up to you and what you think but I just ship Tifa and Cloud more, but respects to my sis Aerith🤝
4 years later, I came to watch again oh, wow this video about cloti have almost 4 million viewers. I'm so happy to see this🥰
Same here. I came here just watch this again.
Everything about Cloud and Tifa together screams "actions speak louder than words". They're like magnets and it feels so organic how their affections develop! 🥰
Every Cloud and Aerith interaction is her teasing him or forcing him into something. She's having a bit of lighthearted fun that helps take her mind of missing Zack and she even kinda helps push Cloud and Tifa to be more open about their feelings for one another like an older sis (even though she is super childish and naive sometimes)
Exactly and tifa understands the meaning of personal space LOL
"Words aren't the only way to tell someone how you feel." Tifa Lockhart
For me, Aerith is the only person who cares about those two pairs relationship better than anyone else, without having to be so blunt with it. Maybe it just me, I always see her as a person who is always very thoughtful and aware of everything around her, that always seems to be covered by her cheerful personality. That's why sometimes she's unpredictable. When she died in the original version I screamed why, but i only have myself to blame for feeling not doing good enough protecting her. I still can't forget that smile before Sephirot end her lives tragically, as if it says "it'll be alright." Very sad..
She reminds me of a mischievous imouto who knows about your crush
Perhaps I’m not one to comment as I don’t know much about final fantasy but Aerith definitely gives off sibling vibes more than romantic
You know that two characters like each other because there’s almost an hour of them flirting
Dude... I havent played this yet. But if in this version Tifa and Cloud dont get together in this remake imma end my life. Look Aerith dies Cloud. Take the girl who was always way cooler and way hotter. Like bruh dont fuck this up Cloud.😂😂😂
@@freakingblockhead4017 true true
even if more than half of the vid is nothing of flirt at all... but still yeah those 5 minutes were powerful enough
60% of this video is flirting, maybe.
@@whateversong3331 LMAO more like 5% if that
To be honest, the "Nailed it, I know, thank you. Moving on" kills me everytime.
I love this couple with a passion. To me its real care and romantic love. With Aerith to me its friendly flirting as she sees Zack in him. Plus she sees how Cloud and Tifa are together. I do think cloud had some romantic feelings for areith but in my opinion it was him believing he was Zack what made him that way.
That's all true! Besides Aerith's sorta been acting like a teasing sister towards Cloud and also shipping him and Tifa together.
It's pretty much revealed in the remake that he doesn't have romantic feelings towards her. Not actually in the OG either. Any official source doesn't defend their feel relationship like that.
@@kaage8780nope. In real life is. Cloud always has feelings towards both Aerith and Tifa.
@@gibbs615yes. 2023 still is.
@@purwantiallan5089 Thank you!
8:38 Biggs coming in with the clutch wingman play.
My man Biggs bein an absolute bro
Biggs knew what’s up
Biggs ❤️
biggs read the room 😂😂
can’t understand the wars but I am a CloTi fan but I don’t see Aerith to be a threat for Cloud and Tifa. I mean, she’s too nice to get mad with and Aerith doesn’t seem to be the cause of cloud and tifa getting mad at each other. Aerith was even the one who teases Cloud about the flower and she persuaded him to go help save Tifa. I guesses Aerith was trying to help Cloud to be more open and be more honest of his feelings to Tifa. BTW, Reno is still hot too.
For what it's worth, even in the original game, the two were practically BFFs and spent more time hanging around each other rather than with Cloud. The animosity, bitterness, and jealousy was entirely reserved for the fan clubs.
Yeah true. Aerith still has feelings for Zax
@@thomasknapp6434 Yeah their connection is strong. I mean sometimes it feels Aerith x Tifa is more plausible.
@@Badruborg And Zack could be alive in this game, soooo....Tifa might be the only match for Cloud.
@@Badruborg yeah, and they were already happy together as shown in advent children
Haha, completely forgot that Rude had a massive crush on Tifa to the point it interrupted game mechanics. In any fight against him, Rude would not target Tifa until everybody else was knocked out and even then had a 1/3 chance of skipping his turn because he hesitates to attack her. Pity they didn't carry it over to the remake, but it does seem to spark up in cut scenes.
It does carry over, in the fight with rude and reno if you play as tifa rude will do a much less severe attack to tifa whereas he will do his strongest moves to cloud lol
Haha yup.
Rude would even say sorry to Tifa after attacking her in the Remake
@@wishblade1 Damn, I missed that. I stuck with Cloud for that fight. Defs gonna have to replay for Rude being cute
wtf that's actually really cute hahahahahshshs
For the guy who designed Tifa, I give you my applause and praises.
Tetsuya Nomura, the legendary character designer
@@NoctLightCloud and he always makes sure that Tifa looks perfect in the scenes. Toriyama tries to turn it down, but I'm so freaking glad that Nomura gets always the last word.
@@kaage8780 Agree! Also, we are having too "realistic-looking" characters in games the past few years and I'm not having it. (I am a woman myself and I see no problem in Tifa's design. No need to censor or tone down female body features when in reality I see such cup sizes around me (eg. in my family) anyways.) I see myself playing only Japanese games for years now. A major reason: The aestetics. Nomura's designs are just my cup of tea.
Aerith is also a beauty.
@@IBeMelissa FOR REALL!! Everyone is so pretty
Can we just appreciate the fact that he’s smoother? I mean, his interactions with her. He’s just very honest now. In the original, he mentions Tifa not letting him into her group. And he calls her and the group immature, but only because he wanted to be near her. In the remake, he’s trying hard not to be immature yet still holding onto those feelings. He’s always near her. Any chance he gets. The warmness he speaks to her compared to anyone else. Am I making sense? I’m too happy with this game. Especially their chemistry and dialogue and ugh! I love it!
Also! The moment I fell hard for this game and them, was how he didn’t even hesitate to give Tifa the flower! I was expecting it to be a choice again but no. This scene fucked me up man.
as far as i remember, his gripes were only with her group and never about her? i’m pretty sure Tifa wanted him to be part of the group but it was the rest of them that wouldn’t let him join or be able to spend time with Tifa, which he resented, and thought she was too ‘good’ for them. and that’s why in the flashback he tells her ‘i’m not like them’ aka the other boys in her group. i might be remembering wrong though
You know, the flower scene really evokes Zack in my mind. It just seems like his energy is all over that, which makes the hug at the end all the more meaningful. In a lot of ways, it’s the first time he’s really with Tifa, as himself. Zack didn’t have anything for him as far as situations like that were concerned. It wasn’t about theatrics, heroics or even the rhetoric and cliches he falls back on when things get serious. In that moment, Cloud had to be Cloud, and he chose to hug her with every moment of his feelings for her that he never got to share.
The flower scene I think made it pretty canon of Cloti. Cloud knew exactly what the flower symbolized and he gave it to Tifa.
Same here
@@snarkysmile I recently played the game. And you're right about his gripe with her trio of friends. He thought her friends were childish and immature. Cloud never blames Tifa for anything. In the life stream Cloud mentions that he wanted to play with everyone but "they never let him in". I was curious so I looked it up and found it was a mistranslation.
EN script: _I really wanted to play with everyone, but I was never allowed into the group._
JP script: 本当はみんなといっしょに遊びたいのに どうしても、仲間に入れてって言えなかった
The Japanese script says that he wanted to play with everyone but he couldn't bring himself to join them. That made him bitter and he created the belief that he was different and better than them.
This is another interesting tidbit that is revealing about Cloud's personality. When you first visit Tifa's house, the "anonymous" letter from the store owner's son to Tifa reads:
_"Tifa, how are you? I just arrived in Midgar eight days ago."_
_"Yesterday, all of Nibelheim got together to welcome me. The only person that we couldn't get a hold of was Cloud."_
_"But everyone said he wasn't really that close to us. So even if we asked, he probably wouldn't have come anyway."_
_"Well, enough about him."_
The letter says that the friend just arrived in Midgar, The Nibelheim boys who left for Midgar gathered together to welcome this person. It also implies that the group of boys reached out to Cloud but wasn't able to and that Cloud was always aloof. I'm curious as to how old the letter is because Cloud was 16 years old in this flashback.
The 2nd part of the letter addressed to Tifa is something I don't really get. Maybe someone has better thoughts on this. I've heard rumor's that this letter is from Johnny but that doesn't make sense, his parents live next door to 7th Heaven in Midgar so that makes him from Midgar. The most interesting thing Cloud says about the letter is, _"Because there was some stuff about me..."_ YET, there is no mention of him. At least not by name. Some of the lines could be tied into how Cloud must have felt about Tifa. This makes the letter strange and telling (especially since Tifa kept replying with "..." and Cloud's memory issues.)
Tifa:
"Cloud... Do you remember all of it?"
Cloud:
_(If you select:) "Yeah, I remember it all"_
Cloud replies with:
*"Because there was some stuff about me..."*
_(rest of the letter)_
"I just made it here to Midgar but all I think about is Nibelheim." ❓
_"Hey, Tifa... Is that stupid old water tower still working?"_ ❓
_"Is the old man at the Inn doing well? Are my parents still at the shop everyday? Have any monsters attacked?"_
"And most of all, how are you, Tifa? It feels like I haven't seen you for years." ❓
_"We were all talking about you last night."_
"Everyone likes you. But because everyone idolizes you, I couldn't very well stab them in the back." ❓
"I always acted cool, but actually, I was just afraid of being jilted." ❓
"Wow, if I keep writing like this, this'll become a love letter!" ❓
_"So, I think I'll stop here. Take care. I'll write again."_
_"P.S. Write me back, okay?"_
I put question marks on lines that seem questionable about what could be stuff that Cloud meant by, "stuff about me". This is just my perception on it.
All I think about is Nibelheim (perhaps about a "certain" person named Tifa).
Old water tower (a promise).
How are you Tifa? It feels like I haven't seen you in years (he said he was going to be gone for a "long" time/2 years = 730 days/how much the thought of her).
Everyone likes you...I couldn't very well stab them in the back (Cloud has a heavy case of notice me senpai syndrome).
I always acted cool... afraid of being jilted (yep).
...this'll become a Love letter (it's not but it definitely is).
3:31 my dude checking out Tifa's butt like a pro
keysake lmaoooo I didn't even notice him at first, so casual
he smooth wit it
I see other ppl playing and it doesn't have this scene.So it just accidentally occur?
@@kimk.4608 yes because its real time the scene change depending of the npc locations
Holy shit this killed me lmaooooooooo
“Cloud and tifa flirting” and its 44 minutes? Dang son and its only on midgar
Can't imagine what gonna happen under the highlight
Was clickbait.
@@____ala5443 highwind*
*in the Jessie's voice* My hero!! Good to know, so, i'm good! 💝😊
@@yagokain4189 Even "under the *highlight*" still make sense lol.
Many people say that it was Aerith's actions that softened Cloud's heart. And after playing through the game many times, I realized that's just not true. During the Jesse mission, the flashback with Tifa on the tower was what softened him up. That's when he started becoming his old self and started to care about other people. Aerith included. If Cloud hadn't softened up by the time he fell through the roof, he would have just shrugged off Aerith's bodyguard shenanigans and asked to be paid in gil.
Yeah, it's utterly bullshit that Aerith made him open up. Cloud already bonded with Avalanche and Tifa before he met Aerith. Only Cleriths don't see that or make up bullshit (like they usually do) from their heads. He had more serious conversations with Tifa too compared to Aerith, even with Avalanche. With Aerith it was more casual chit chat and in the end, Aerith wanted to know about Zack since she was interested in Cloud's SOLDIER-persona and Zack's mannerism.
And it wasn't Aerith who first noticed the change in Cloud. It was Tifa.
@@kaage8780 If we're talking about how much attention they pay to Cloud, it's not even close. Tifa's the one always caring about Cloud. It really shows in chapter 17. When Tifa pointed out that Cloud was acting weird, Aerith thought that was just Cloud being Cloud. When Cloud collapsed, Tifa was the one keeping watch over him while he slept. When Cloud was made his stand against Rufus, Tifa was the only one who wanted to stay. And of course, she couldn't help herself and ran back for him.
@@SolidStructureWCwell even so Cloud still GOATED guy.
Cloud- *holds up drink* Beautiful....
Did he just.......this man is smooth!
11:57 did you see her bite her lip as she's turning away? Sploosh.
he wouldn't say that to drink yall know that
Imagine waiting 25 years for your favorite pairing ever to have 45 minutes of screen time.
I. Want. More. 😭😭
Hey, that’s like half a movie right there. Sure, you could make loads of movies in that time, but we had FFVII in the beginning. They had a fair bit back then even if it was rudimentary.
I’m not displeased with the content that was given, yet why do I feel unsatisfied 😩
I feel you! I can't wait to see what is going to happen in part 2. Til then I'm going to watch this on repeat 😂
Nysiek PL WORD. 🤝
And this is only part 1. Next time on Cloti...it’s the Gold Saucer
Tifa: “Cloud...You’re hurting me...”
Cloud: “Oh! I’m so-“
Tifa: “ *Don’t stop...* “
Kinky😏
which one?
Cloud: Is it ok if i...
Tifa: it's ok..keep going
Hold up.
I see what you did there ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Honestly now that the scenes that fans have been debating over for years will be now voice acted and cinematic, its going to start looking real bad for Aerith and Cloud shippers once we start getting to the last 3rd of the story. Tifa realizes she loves Cloud, Cloud's inner conscious confesses he's always loved Tifa to her surprise. Its going to be great, I may even shed a tear. The lifestream scene is the biggest piece of evidence to end the debate.
Clerith punching air rn
I find it so funny that after 23 years cloti and cherish shippers are still going at it lmao
@Silvana Sanchez hahaha I've seen your comments for a while now and I love it lol. Can we be friends?!? 🤣
I saw how you went at it with this crazy ass Aerith / Cloud shipper who clicked on this vid that CLEARLY isn't Aerith centered JUST to start shit because they didn't like what they saw and it had me rollin lol.
I don't understand how people take this shit so personally...I've been shipping these two since I was like 6 years old...I'm as hardcore of a CloTi fan as they come and I write and make drawings about and of these two but I don't force my ideas on people or start shit on Aerith and Cloud shippers...some people smh.
It gives me joy and makes me giddy watching these two in fucking 4k...just breathtaking.
I'm not going to mess with these hard core haters and waste my time arguing when the whole point of an argument is to make your point seem like the correct one...I have no interest in changing their minds nor do they have a remote chance changing mine so I don't bother.
That guy was just a trip.
Like your ship and be an adult about it man 😑
It's Cloud and Tifa though...always been and always will be ❤
Can't wait for Part 2 and 3.
...I....demand....THAT scene from under the Highwind...🤤
A lot of people seem pretty confident about the Tifa/Cloud prominence in the next part(s?) of the remake. I hope the devs follow through.
Hope they make it official in FF7 remake part 2, or else we RIOT
1:29 - For those who are wondering,
1. Tifa doesn't remember seeing Cloud during the Nibelheim incident, so it's 7 years for her: she did see him at the end of the Nibelheim incident when Cloud went to check on her after spoiler spoiler spoiler and after taking off his helmet, but her physical trauma/wounds from spoiler spoiler spoiler possibly clouded her memory of that.
2. Cloud, however, saw her 5 years ago at the Nibelheim incident but he was wearing a helmet due to feeling ashamed of spoiler spoiler spoiler. However, at this moment, he doesn't remember his exact role during the Nibelheim incident because of spoiler spoiler spoiler and - therefore - doesn't remember that he wore a helmet and that he was feeling ashamed then.
3. This is the reason why, when Cloud says "Has been five years.", Tifa replies, "Huh?".
Also looking back at crisis core and Advent Children...In my opinion I would say that Cloud never had a romantic interest in Aerith. He grew fond of her because his memories are intertwined with Zack. Or more so he thinks he is Zack in some way. He always wants to protect her because it was someone Zack knew and cared deeply about. If you remember Cloud also is extremely upset about her death, but not because he loved her, but because he failed to protect her just like he did with Zack.
I kinda want to replay the original and see if they drop hints like that. Because that twist came the hell out of nowhere when I first played it.
@@Emily-ei3mk yea ... I literally prefer the relationship between tifa and cloud cuz they've known each other for a long time meanwhile cloud just got known to aerith for how long? ... A week?
@@Emily-ei3mk
Did Cloud have Zack's memories? I thought Cloud's Zack-ness was only based on what Cloud personally saw Zack do and say. I don't remember Cloud seeing Zack and Aerith together for Cloud to base any familiarity with Aerith
@@anonymousraccoon8923 I guess memories is not the right word to use. Not quite sure if you recall but Cloud and Zack got subjected to the SOLDIER mako infusion process and had Jenova cells added to them by Hojo. But Since Zack had gone through a similar process a while before, his body resisted experiments. Cloud, however, fails to the testing and thus he develops a severe case of Mako poisoning. Hojo labels the two as failures and he then places them in a sleeping state and leaves them in their pods in the Shinra basement. Anyway years pass they both escape and Cloud sees Zack die)
After that Cloud starts a transformation due to the combined trauma caused by the Nebelheim incident, his Mako poisoning, and witnessing Zack's death. He starts to apply Zack's memories (or so his story telling) and fighting abilities into his own. What emerges in Cloud's mind is a reality as if Zack did not exist and Cloud believes he was the one who did everything that Zack did. After that he ends up taking Zack's place. Cloud then presents himself in Midgar as a former 1st Class SOLDIER even thought he failed to ever become a SOLDIER.
Sorry for the long response haha XD
The Tifa and Cloud moments are part of why I like this game so much ngl
Miranda Lawson Not to mention Cloud and Tifa’s relationship is, in a way, the backbone of this whole story too. She’s the reason he did anything and the reason he found himself later in the story. She’s also the person who helped him with his depression in Advent Children. Man, their story is so engrossing. I am so glad it’s so evident in the Remake, I can’t wait for part 2.
TheNameCannotBeFound yes!! Without Tifa there would be no reason for Cloud to want to join Soldier and be like sephiroth. Without Tifa cloud’s journey would have never started.
the scene at 41:24 hits harder than the kissing scene in the gondola for me. It shows Cloud finally crumple and be soft to support Tifa's outpouring of emotion. Like he finally steps up and is there for her emotionally.
Me too
Tifa is such a badass Angel, it's not even funny
Cloud and Tifa will always be the canon romance of FF7 to me. Cloud and Aerith seems more like cute puppy love to me; when Cloud started to fall in love with her, he's still in his fake SOLDIER persona. With Tifa, his true personality shines through and their romance is just more believable.
They are canon. That night under the Highwind? They didn't just cuddle.
you can ship what you want but relying on crap like Cloud having no agency or awareness of himself in that persona, when he plainly does, to do so is sad.
@@whateversong3331 if he had awareness of himself, he wouldn't have been Cock-A-Doodle-Doo in the OG and there wouldn't have been any Lifestream scenes.
Dunno, Cloud just melts near Aerith
Cloti is good too, ofc
I see Aerith as Cloud's big sis
Aerith is sweet and all but she just acts so silly towards Cloud that I can't really take her seriously. Also, her bangs drive me insane.
Tifa teases Cloud occasionally, but it doesn't feel nearly as awkward as when Aerith does it. She has a bomb character design, the slickest-looking fighting moves in the game, is the childhood friend, good with kids, makes good drinks.
Tifa is best girl.
I like Aerith much more than in the original game but sometimes she’s still so annoying... After playing so many hours from chapter 8 to 13 with her i was so relieved that she was kidnapped and she’s not in my team anymore...
Tifa IS best girl. Too bad they ruined their relationship in advent children. They were together already 😐😭 if there's only a movie or game moments that portrays them being a couple, i can die very happy. I want Tifa to be with him, her childhood friend.
Too bad the game sucks at building any chemisty between Aerith or Tifa. The characters are all as lively and as deep as a sack of potatoes.
Tifa's eyes are red which also puts her above Aerith
Tifa is waifu
The fact that when cloud says "beautiful" his pov towards tha cosmo canyon is blurry but his pov Tifa on the other hand is clear and focused
The subtext of that drink scene just hit me:
The first drink he asks for, something bitter--his request is basically for a drink that is like himself. It's even yellow to match his most vivid color--his blonde hair. The drink is an obectal correlative for Cloud's emotions--but also, just for Cloud himself.
The second drink Tifa gives him when the first doesn't impress him is the house special--it probably reflects her preferences more than any other drink on offer, and in so doing it reflects *her*. This is made even more clear given the fact that its coloration matches *Tifa's* most vivid color: the red from her arm-plates and her eyes. It's an objectal correlative for Tifa.
When Cloud calls the second drink 'beautiful', he holds it up in his line of sight, putting it between himself and Tifa, looking at her through it. Overlaying Tifa's objectal correlative and Tifa herself. Both are beautiful.
Beautifully explained. A subtle, yet meaningful cutscene.
Good catch.
I love this! Can I share this over twitter? 🥰🥰🥰I would love to discuss it with my friends
@@LovelyinCloudNine Of course!
I'm @xavierao94 if you wouldn't mind tagging me
ChapterZee thank youuu 💖💖💖💖
I think this is where the game really shines. The dialogue and character interactions in the OG were pretty amazing in how natural they were. I love how this doesn't feel forced; but you can see Tifa is clearly invested in Cloud and cares about him, but she still keeps a distance.
1997: *just kiss/bone already*
2020: **JUST KISS/BONE ALREADY!!!!*
Okay so for 2020, its just got more intense. :D
Why
Well in the OG they did a lot more than kissing at the very end of the game, after the Crater conversation
They boned the first time around
*Tifa and Cloud adopts denzel*
Me: stop adopting kids and make some already! xD
The scene in the gardens was absolutely heart wrenching and beautiful. I remember seeing it for the first time, Tifa starting to tear up, and then she just winds up crying into Cloud’s chest and all I can think is “Hug her you idiot!” and when he finally does my heart just melts. It’s such a powerful, touching moment between them that shows how much Tifa trusts Cloud, and how easily Cloud’s walls are torn down around Tifa. The two just make each other better.
I didn’t get it when I plus was it because I skipped the side side quests?
@@pandi-u-5565well sadly is. I ever skipped one side question to actually get it.
Tifa Lockhart is one of the Top Tier Waifus in Video Game history
*God Tier
@Midnight Rainstorm I'm curious, who is top tier for you if Tifa is not? She's good looking, well-endowed, good with kids, can cook and generally kind. That's a great waifu material to me lol
@Midnight Rainstorm just like how you barked on your first reply? hahahah
FACT
@Midnight Rainstorm let me try *ahem* one word and its "opinion"
42:26 My favourite moment, a large reason being the music. It slowly builds up in a crescendo, alongside the sound of her crying, then the hook for Tifa's Theme plays when he finally hugs her. The crying eventually stops and we get to enjoy this scene with only the music and nothing else. Dammit, so beautiful.
I AM A FUCKING WATERFAAAALL
Tifa's got the natural 'come-hither' voice, which is an absolute crime when paired with that body. It should be illegal to be that innocently seductive.
I’m calling the cops now
Big FACTS
ewww stfu
You know, when I was watching Advent Children once, my mom, who has no knowledge of Final Fantasy, asked if Cloud and Tifa were married.
*THEY SHOULD BE*
That's real shit right there
And they have 2 kids lol bless denzel and marlene
Britt did _such_ an amazing job. _Ugh_ my god, you can hear that exacting, maternalistic warmth when Tifa speaks. The voice of a novelty tour guide: mature, vivacious, incisive..such a good job. She's perfect as Tifa.
Especially at the beginning of the game, she does such a good job at having Tifa try and make Midgar seem as appealing as possible to Cloud--speaking to him in this accommodating and amicable gentleness; slightly pressing, firm, but always careful. She intonates Tifa's need and desire for Cloud to stay and stick around. The way she offers him room and board, the audible distress in her voice when she asks if he wants to talk about what happened after he left, the glee in her voice when she offers to mix him a drink, her timidity when she asks if he can stay in town, all of it is just this smooth mix of benevolence and anxious self-indulgence. Cloud's her only memento from back home. She wants to catch up. She wants to know what happened. It's been so long, too long.
Yes huge tits too, very maternal
She definitely did an amazing job bringing Tifa to life. So many subtle hints at Tifa's desire to spend time with Cloud just by the tone in her voice and the words she chooses carefully to sound accommodating without being needy or clingy. Her asking him to hit the town and dress up, making drinks for him, and even a very short voice-over during the trek to Sector 5 Reactor where Cloud just randomly says "that looks like Sector 4 down there" and Tifa quickly offers to take him there sometime. Tifa just seems like a real person with real shyness and insecurities, despite the fact she can destroy armored robots with just her fists.
And the way that her voice slowly cracks as Tifa recounts everything that she and Cloud have lost, before finally breaking down into tears as he struggles to comfort her... Oh my god, her performance was outstanding.
Almost every major characters got great VAs in this game. Perhaps not Zack, but even the new Sephiroth VA has done well.
20:07 Never thought I'd see two people making out with their eyes, but here we are.
Ichigo and rukia and heero and relena did that along too.
@@MrInuhanyou123 man, now you talk about that made me mad with the ending once more lol
@@KhanhNguyen-dg9rl I see a fellow IR shipper
bruh literally intense eye-fucking XD
XD
I love aerith, and she is my best girl, but it's pretty clear that tifaxcloud is better. I hope SE FINALLY settles this and give tifaxcloud a proper ending
Yes!
Highly Agreed
@serena180 guess someone's butthurt. if you're gonna spread negativity like that then why click on the vid at all?
Aerith says shes not ur girl tifa nodded the same no they love noone but me I saved there lives and my magic spells made it so they only love me as my playthrough of there games only matter to higher powers and them they dont care how u play as them
They both suck they head nod to me no they dont love cloud they love noone but me and ellie and abby from last of us nod yes to that to on a off screen u dont have the power i have u cant see them as i can so dont bother ur not worthy
How people can see the promise scene and not think Tifa is the obvious canonical love interest is beyond me
Ikr? Even if i don't read much details from ultimania or something like that it's already clear which couple squeenix wanted to push here.
They're simply blind, live in denial, didn't understand the plot and the characters. They don't know Aerith (I've seen it way too many times), they don't know Tifa and they don't know Cloud or the relationships between them 🤷♀️ as simple as that. CLERITH DOESN'T F*CKING EXIST, Cloud never loved Aerith nor Aerith Cloud. That's the whole f*cking point in his split-persona, which Clerith don't understand with their brains.
He had Zack's memories (been stated officially and what else could it be since Cloud wasn't the real Cloud with Aerith? She NEVER KNEW Cloud, only Tifa does). Literally EVERYTHING references to Zack, but Clerith aren't smart enough to read between the lines. It isn't said in ANY official source that they had anything between them. Especially from Cloud towards Aerith. He only loved Tifa and that's been stated officially. They share romantic feelings and they ARE canon JUST like Zack and Aerith 🤷♀️ Nojima is a CloTi GOD, the official writer who has the last word and wrote Cloud to be with Tifa, Nomura who's official and original designer designed Tifa to be the perfect woman for Cloud, NOT Aerith. And they BOTH prefer Tifa like A LOT from the staff, even Nobuo Uematsu.
They run against EVERYTHING that has been officially stated. Then they act like the devs don't know anything about their own f*cking game that THEY have planned and made 😂 pathetic. CloTi and Zerith is endgame,wheter they like it or not. Nojima will NEVER write or announce Clerith as a couple and canon why the f*ck would he??? 😂 After ALL these years?? 😂 those salty f*cktards even went to his official site to trash on him. Like that helps to make their ship canon 😂 Nojima doesn't give a f*ck about Clerith nor Nomura and will never write it as canon or favour their ship just because they demand and f*cking cry about it. If I remember right, he was even pissed at Cleriths (which is even more win for us 😂) . He loves Cloti and HE has planned with Nomura that they are a couple and canon. Since Final Fantasy VII is HIS story, not any f*cking Clerith's 🤘
@@kaage8780 Clertih, Zerith, Cloti, jeez you people need to get a fucking grip.
As a new fan of FF in general it seemed to me that Aerith was his true love while Tifa is the childhood clichee. Only the Remake made me grasp that SE wants to push Cloud and Tifa together because it seems now, that it was always their intention. im very late but thats just how it looked, before the remake at least.
@@MichaSennin I'd argue that Aerith has complicated feelings for Cloud due to his similarities to her true love that is Zach. It's a situation where you want someone to be someone they're not. I believe she knows it and that's why she pushes Cloud towards Tifa. Cloud is also a mess and as far I as I know they never "date" post FF7 OG, Dirge of Cerberus, or Advent Children.
There’s a scene you forgot. The one where a train falls and Cloud saves both Tifa and Aerith, but he only asked Tifa if she’s okay. Plus Cloud’s body was protecting Tifa while he only had a hand for Aerith.
During the train graveyard part? Weird i'm pretty sure Cloud asked Clerith instead of Tifa in my game, maybe because i choose to pick her when they're in the sewer?
There was another too. I forgot which chapter but its about the falling debris. He asked if Tifa’s okay, he didn’t ask Barret or Aerith if they’re okay.
R WP You are also correct, there was also a scene when they all jumped down he asked “you okay” and Aerith replied first, but Tifa also replied afterwards, and a little bit after that scene I think around the train area, debris / a train fell and if you will watch in slow motion when Cloud says “run” then both girls ran, you can clearly see he runs towards Tifa’s direction and if you pause at the right moment, you’ll see Cloud’s left hand protected Aerith, but his right hand and his whole body protected Tifa. He then asks Tifa if she’s okay and Tifa replied “yeah”, then Aerith thanks Cloud for saving them both. :)
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Silvana Sanchez very true. You would think during that train falling scene, he should have been more concerned to Aerith since the train fell closer to Aerith, ofcourse he saved both girls but he was more concerned in protecting Tifa. I just have a feeling that in this remake, Cloud’s real persona is somehow resurfacing. Whenever he remembers his past, it’s always about Tifa and nobody else. We all know his first promise to someone was with Tifa and that’s to protect her always.
Even in Kingdom Hearts 2, Cloud finally found his own inner golden light when he protected Tifa who was in danger from Sephiroth.
Silvana Sanchez yeah.
I've been shipping them ever since I played OG, which was 11 years ago. 11 year old me used to watch every single Cloud x Tifa amv on youtube, read many fanfics, and save every single Cloud x Tifa fan art I see. You don't know how happy I am right now, I DESERVE THIS KIND OF CONTENT
well said fellow shipper...
well said
Meanwhile I knew about this ship for 11 years but never got into ff7 for some reason, but now falling hard into this cloti rabbit hole makes me think I wasted all those years. Ps if you know any good fics please recommend
@@treelo11 same here.❤
Same...
I had to log in just to say how much this comment made me laugh LOL!! But SAME! We deserve this content after so many years, WE EARNED IT!!
The depth and friendly tone of this comment section is quite something. The theories, academic like views of subtle things happening in the game to pure love for the game and characters are just...splendid and wholesome in a way.
FF7 is that kind of story
I know ryt? We get the occasional boobs comment but overall, the strong, shy, helpful, loyal personality of tifa shines..Go to tumblr... i love their analysis there.. pretty respectful to the other side too...
@@mm-cm6kc I mean, she do have sex appeal but so much more to Tifa. But yes, its nice discussions in here suprisingly, no one argues over some bullshit.
CANON ON-SCREEN KISS..!! That's all we've ever wanted from these two, Square Enix...!!!
Fr just show them kiss and that will stop the shipping war
@@queena.reversa fr man, just show us the kiss then were done here 💀
@@DZonAv ong bro
😂 Lasca um Beijo cloud, aí Termina felizes para Sempre 😂 😂 Danou-se, pior Que Amar a Tife, mas é Durão Demais pra Demontrar o Amor que existe na mente dos Fãs de #FinalFantasy Queremos ver um Beijo 😂 Porr@ 😂
I WANT THIRD BASE!!
it's insane seeing this game like this. My childhood literally coming back to life
And Tifa too wow she is fine
I swear to god one of the best thing that SE ever did was Tifa. After seeing Tifa, any other FF girls just become Irrelevant.
That's how I feel about the "Tales of" series and Velvet Crowe.
She kinda a unique heroin, i think she the only heroin who's a fighter/monk class because most of the heroine's in final fantasy female characters are mages/healers or summoners
She's the prettiest final fantasy girl imo especially in advent children
Terra Branford: am I a joke to you?
Hello??
You forgot Rikku from Final Fantasy 10.
She is really sweet and beautiful designed ,too
Or Rinoa from Final Fantasy 8
I personality prefer Rinoa over Tifa.
*We all know Tifa is the true love of Cloud.*
Nilima Debbarma is that even a question?
@@RadioJet2 well, i wasn't asking😂
*Aerith Fansclub Enters the chat*
@kemuael yeah, but Zack didn't die in the remake. The Timelines changed. So Aerith is Now probably Zack's lover again. Cloud only has his first love Tifa now😁😁...Clerith shippers are defeated.
Nilima Debbarma actually the games not done, there’s possibly a part two
Cloud always loved Tifa. She‘s his childhood crush.
Yeah, like I always thought that I loved my childhood crush until I met my gf...
@@haihuynh8337 ….only with the difference, that he still has to do with his childhood crush and ist still friends with her. Good for u bro 😂
@@نور-ن2ق4ظ Friendzoned...
@@haihuynh8337 never. did u even play FF7?
@@نور-ن2ق4ظ I meant my case, not hers
I haven't finished the game but I think SE has chosen their side. They cut a lot of cloud x aerith scenes and most of their romance interactions are optional. While for Cloud and Tifa, theirs are so natural and impactful. Flirting with her in subtle way, gets jealous whenever some guy are flirting with her, b
ecome her knight in shinning armor, try to be nice to other people for her, putting her as his priority even when Aerith was there, like he doesn't give a shit about the latter. Sometimes it was Tifa who save Aerith when she was in danger, not Cloud. It's obvious Cloud favors Tifa so much. Especially the hugging part. I knew she is the one for him.
100% agree!
Thats because something happens at the “end” of the game
@@Chumii22 you mean aerith's death
So damn true!!!! And I’m happy about it!!
@Silvana Sanchez
Hi again
I always search for your comments cause they are rational and polite and they gimme kinda hope when I'm confused with some ppl's fake and complex ideas. I appreciate it
I wanted to ask u where can I get this Ultamania plz?
32:11
Tifa: So suck it up, cause I'm not leaving.
Cloud: Y-You suck it up
Tifa: what
Cloud: what
Yeah you right
Forgets to wear underwear that day*
@ArcScion sticky finger
@@balance9772 Tifa: This is the taste of a boner, Cloud Strife!
@@RenoYeh lmao
2:14 LOL SHE DIDN’T EVEN LOOK AT HIM, SHE JUST SENSED THE CONSTIPATED EMOTIONS AND RAN.
*constipated*
1. All 3 of Cloud's VA (Takahiro Sakurai, Steve Burton, and Cody Christian) are Tifa fanboys, and they acknowledge that Tifa had the biggest impact in Cloud's life because she's the ONLY ONE who's allowed to explore Cloud's subconscious where his 'Secret wishes and tender feelings that NO ONE can know about' are kept, and is able to reveal the real Cloud.
2. Katsuyuki Yamazaki (Cloud's mocap actor) did a FF7R INTERGRADE live streaming gameplay earlier this year on his TH-cam channel, he elaborated most scene in the game that he acted out, and Cloud's relationship with other characters. And through that we can find out that: Tifa is Cloud's priority. Also, he mentioned that Cloud and Aerith have a sibling dynamic (sometimes he even called Aerith 'Onee-chan' which translates as 'Big sister' in Japanese).
3. Maximilian Dood (A huge FF7 fan since '97, and former Clerith shipper) - "Aerith is a good friend, but Tifa is the real waifu. She's the best".
4. Briana White (Aerith's VA) shipped Cloud and Aerith at first. But then, after she voiced and played Crisis Core Reunion, she changed course and fully became Zack and Aerith shipper. She even invited Caleb (Zack's VA) in one of her stream to do a live-signing of Zerith fanart, and at one point, they both gave out their opinion about Zack and Aerith's relationship, and both agreed that Zack and Aerith's influence 'brings out the best from each other' through knowing and loving each other (I recommend you to watch the full video on her Twitch. It's pretty chaotic with them being a couple of goofballs most of the time).
Cloud : “a guy can change. Has been 5 years”
Tifa : “huh?”
It’s 7 years for Tifa, oh dear Cloud ☺️
Sandra Octaviani Can you explain for this poor soul?
@Do You Are Have Stoopid? Cloud was a foot soldier and was embarrassed cause he said he will become a first class soldier and he came back to the village with Zack and Septhroite but he was in a mask so tifa doesn’t know he failed or he was there.
@@doyouarehavestoopid6589 He spent 2 years in a mako chamber but when he came to consciousness, he didn't know that 2 years had passed. Which is why Cloud has the mako eyes and superhuman strength/speed. He became a SOLDIER in body only, and not in title.
Ah I see, but why is it that Clouds’s memories are kinda screwed throughout the story?
@@doyouarehavestoopid6589 Cloud is nowhere near Soldier level. He did previously applied to one but failed. Basically Hojo experiment on them, force Mako Energy to Cloud, this what make Cloud lose some of himself. To fill those, he take the identity of Soldier next to him, Zack~ Some of Memory shown in the game is actually Zack's
I just realized because of the 4 years being kept in test tube by Hojo, Cloud’s mind is actually 4 years younger than his body. All of those time in FF7, he was just a 17 years old boy who try to act like a 21 adult. No wonder why he was so cringey in this game.
He acts that way because of the fake persona he created to try to imitate Zack. This is one of the central points of this character that throughout history, ends up discovering that he was a SOLDIER only in his head. It has nothing to do with "mental" age or any such nonsense.
@@AlexanderPR2 Anyone can make their own interpretations of this game.
@@AlexanderPR2 ummm, you're very very very wrong. It's been stated that Cloud is mentally behind and acts weird because he has missed life experience being pickled so many years in mako. He IS mentally still 16. It has been stated officially many times. Even in OtWtaS Tifa realized when Cloud had problems recognizing the vegetables he had to deliver was because he missed so much during those years.
@@Greentea0083 facts are facts, fictions are fictions.
@@kaage8780 Right…because a video game is real!
Honestly, Final Fantasy is the only series where the main protagonists are shown to be in love without it feeling cliche.