Thanks, Paul. I’ve got a suggestion: It’s great that you tell us about car functionality / behaviour that you don’t like, but could you also tell us if these issues can be mitigated / disabled? eg. “Sports” mode heavy steering. eg. Auto engine Stop / Start. eg. Lane Departure assist. eg. Slow Auto gearbox kickdown. eg. Propensity to change up to too high a gear for a given speed. eg. Driver Monitoring. eg. Auto Emergency Braking. My ‘24 Outback XT has nearly all of these unwanted behaviours, but I can disable / get around all of them. Unwanted behaviours can be deal breakers if they can’t be disabled.
Hey Paul, love your reviews. I actually went to see this in real life and found out that it's a massive car and will require a big garage, meaning it will not fit in your average garage. Length wise, it's a bit longer than a CX9. So if anyone is planning on buying one, I would recommend getting a test drive park in your garage and see if it fits.
@@audiophile1838That’s such a bullshit justification for these stupid things. Aside from the obvious retort being “try contraception next time…”, these stupid oversized SUVs are not designed to be space efficient or prioritise usability for multiple passengers. They have less space in them than infinitely better designs like the good old fashioned people mover. A Renault Scenic had more room in it than this stupid thing. No, spare me the whole “but families” line - it’s all about fashion and being bigger than everyone else. They’re a dumb car for dumb people.
@@froggy0162 Not if you do a massive amount of country driving including gravel roads, and carry up to a months shopping as well. Great alternative to buying a lumbering 4WD especially when 95 percent of my driving is on sealed roads.
We bought a CX-60, and it has been a terrible experience. We’ve had problems every day. In just six months, we’ve had to bring it in for recalls and software resets five times. The value has already dropped by $10,000. Please don’t buy the CX-60.
Just a heads up that the touchscreen can be made to work in motion if you jump in the settings. Annoying that it isn't enabled from factory but it is there :)
Check in the settings. The touchscreen can be enabled at all speeds while smart phone mirroring. Might want to make sure of these things before you ding a vehicle for it in a review. Also…it’s a RWD which means the transmission is positioned under the center console area which is why the center console is so shallow. The same thing occurs in just about any vehicle of this side with a longitudinal engine.
@@ymml467. There are exceptions to every rule. The vast majority of rear wheel drive vehicles that aren’t trucks have shallower center consoles than their FWD counterparts.
Mazda cx-60 and cx-90 look too Mazda. I personally don't think they look like what their prices suggest. They look good and that's it. With the current exterior design, the subpar premium interior, it's a bold call to ask for a bag of money even they are cheaper than the competitors. I've called several Mazda dealers, they have cx-60 stocks for most of the trims with discounts, and that says something in 2023. I've also spoken to some friends and they won't mind at all to spend 15k-20k extra on the x3 if they have to spend 70K on a car already which is the price for the cx-60 (not the base model). TBH, if you compare X3 to cx-60, BMW's interior is at least one level above. You can't deny the power of the badge when you ask for a premium price. I would say this, if Mazda offers the similar hybrid engines (not PHEV) as Lexus, it will be a much easier sell. These days in 2023, I'm really not sure how you can sell v6 petrol or even diesel engines on family vehicles without being super performant (like the German v6 competitors). Plus, I've tried the cx-60 and X3, X3 drives much better. I mean much. A Lexus ES hybrid (300h) is 73K drive away. I know it's a sedan not a SUV. But it's a proper big family car with a proper premium interior and a premium badge. This cx-90 to me is in an even worse situation than the cx-60. To me, the only chance I would consider Mazda is the potential reliability. But TBH, if I spend 70K/80k on a car, I would trade it in for my next car after 5 years. If you can afford a 80k car, how much you would truely care about the depreciation.
Nice review guys and some interesting insights. I had great hopes when I heard that Toyota and Maza were working together on a straight 6 petrol and a straight 6 diesel. The Diesel Straight 6 was a great thought and in the EV crazy world we live in ATM. 1. The +ives. Would have delivered great economy and a long engine life. Much longer than an EV. 2. The build quality of the CX-90s is exceptional. Body panels with 3-4 mm all around the car. Apparently, people who work in that plant in Japan have to have many years of experience - ie: People who do a very high quality job are recognised in Mazda for that. 3. Engine performance great and reliability and performance of a straight 6 so much better than a V6. 4. Ergonomics inside are great. However, the negatives for me. 5. Another review I saw it looks like the timing chain is at the back of the engine. So you have to drop the engine out to do anything at the back of the engine. ie: Sell it before you get to 150,000 kms. Lots of expensive maintenance implications down the track and not just timing chain. 6. If You get rear ended and you've lost not just the bumper area but the hatch as well. Its got the back end profile of Roger Ramjets face - side on. 7. ICE/Hybrid integration - looks very ordinary what has been delivered, and in keeping with what we normally get from Mazda. A question 8. Is the spare a full size or a run flat? Mazda typically give run flat tyres which might be ok to get you to your local Bob Janes in the CBD but if travelling Brisbane to Melbourne as sometimes do, could be a real PIA.
Australians are lucky! Your Mazda CX-90s have front center mounted airbags to prevent the driver and the front occupants from bumping heads during a side impact/collision. If you look at the inner driver's side seat at 7:35, you will see a sticker that says "SRS Airbag." That is the front, center airbag, a great safety feature that the CX-90s in the USA do not have.
An in-line cylinders is always going to be the best balanced engine design, as for the “hot v” in the 300 that’s a big let down of Toyota and shouldn’t of been allowed to pass engineering of approval, I think the ranger v6 is certainly better than the 300 being slightly detuned against the 300 plus the ranger is lighter so it’s less strain with that alone.
@@dr.killjoy5001 a revised means atleast it’s been upgraded, better than a hot V oil burner which Toyota admits in its manual it will burn 30% of its oil by each service interval.
Mazda will never be able to out-Toyota or out-Lexus Toyota. Mazda needs to zig while Toyota zags. Can't chase average housewife. Mazda is correct in making their vehicles the enthusiast choice in each segment they compete in.
I am not a fan of the space saver spare tyre. That being said my experience with Mazda's is that with the spare being a space saver when you replace a flat the tyre you take off doesn't fit in the slot where the space saver was sitting. The question I have in this case is if you have a car full of people 6/7 and luggage and you get a flat where does the replaced tyre go? Have Mazda fixed that issue?
Why all the irrational hatred against Mazda and their pricing? This costs less than a smaller Genesis GV80. Also all the people writing dumb comments here have no idea what a commparably equipped german model even costs. Go to the Mercedes website and build a GLS... Lexus does NOT even offer any comparable model to this (and if they did it would have a smaller 4-cylinder engine, no diesel option and would be still more expensive)
I really don't understand why people who are actually liking & praising this car. Come on people!! Even a Hyundai Palisade overshadows this Mazda in every aspect apart from engine power. But again, who needs power in a family SUV not destined for offroading?!! Blind spot cameras, heated & cooled seats both front & middle row, better room in third row with better AC cooling, way better appointed interior with better materials, Hyundai Bluelink service, remote parking assist feature, better 360° cameras, way better music system, more interior colour options, actual full-time working touchscreen,.... I can go on & on. This Mazda is more like as Mitsubishi in comparison to say Genesis
I think Mazda should have pitched it & priced it to compete with Mitsubishi Outlander or Toyota Kluger. Aiming at Volvo or Genesis as comparison is like a Domino's pizza compared to a Vapiano pizza
@@gauravsharma6 Pizza and cars are not the same thing. The palisade is a great car, but this Mazda has a drivetrain you won't find in any other car. Mazda has a reputation for its quality and sophisticated engineering, and also its premium design. However, the interior of this car is pretty subjective.
@@sleepy1171 I was in the exact same situation as you. I really wanted to get the Santa Fe, but I heard some things about reliability problems on Hyundai cars, which kind of steered me away. But, nonetheless, Hyundai cars are great in general and I think you made a great choice.
@@serilvelmurugan1177 Hey thanks ! I've been watching all the reviews from TH-camrs in Australia that review the SF. They all say it's great, they all say the back design of it is questionable haha. I really hope it's reliable enough as primarily it'll be for the wife and 2 little ones (I'll drive my old run about). If money wasn't an issue, I'd just throw the wife in a Defender or Land Cruiser haha. Wouldn't that be nice.
I’m surprised at some the comments. I’m actually looking at one of these but in the top model with the SP package which adds all the nice materials and colour. Also the inline 6 is a great engine. Also it’s still 40k cheaper than a Q7 so what are you talking about with your high prices? Even the GV80 is another 25k
Good purchase, Mazda cars have come along way and feel exceptionally premium to drive, solid build quality and engineering, the skyActive engines blew me away for a naturally aspirated engine the performance was unreal.
european brand fanboys are just toxic trash talkers who feel the need to put this down in order to avoid feeling like they overpaid for their european vehicle
@@oscar7476 I think Toyota is overpriced but people like what they like and will pay for it. I personally hate Audi etc you pay cheaper upfront but they depreciate quick and lose a lot of money on the back end, you get stung on servicing and repair costs, Mazda is way more reliable, full of less sensor codes etc. I’d take a Mazda anyday. Go and drive the cx90 yourself before judging it on Paul’s review who is probably getting paid by certain manufacturers, he’s not doing all this with a channel, building a business around it all for free, he’s getting paid.
Just bought one. An amazing car for the price. Got the Azami spec with the SP package. It is luxurious inside. A similar car with the specifications made by a European car would be at least $50K more expensive. Build quality is exceptional as well. A good product for what you get for the price from Mazda.
That i-stop system does a significant wear to the drivetrain so basically they sell you a burning match and in a matter of 3 years you gotta replace everything which's gonna cost a small fortune.
I was also worried about that. Then I bought a 2015 Mazda 3. Incredibly reliable car 😮 and no... no such fear of engine stop start anymore, 8 years and going strong. Don't forget, lots of people were worried about turbo wearing out and now pretty much everything has one.
This and the 60 both have space saver tyres. That is an automatic no sale for a car like this, especially at this price. This is Australia, we have extensive expanses of roadways which are quite remote. Not at all appropriate for the use of space savers.
The Azumi model is worth the difference to the GT which has a lots of cheap bright plastics and that mainly on that huge centre consul which also way too big for the available space in front. Never thought I would feel cramped for knee spread room in the front seat of such a large car. Also the styling is a step backward from the CX9. There is a bulge on the back door at taillight level that is exactly parallel to the bumper which means if you hit the bumper then you crash the rear door as well. Auto braking want stop that if you are dabbing the brakes while reversing and will not stop someone else driving into you. Expensive repair there.
As a current Mazda3 owner and seriouusly considering a trade in for a newish cx5, their new range is gonna bomb isn't it? Vote! Thumbs up if you agree, down if you don't
Functionality of the central screen is baffling. Why has a screen that is touch capable not utilise that functionality the car but only for phone use and even then when stationery? That's bizarre. It's amazing with these types of outcomes can still occur.
I actually prefer using the rotary dial as opposed to the touchscreen. Took a few weeks of getting used to, but the shortcut buttons for maps and music is just superb. Way less distracting than a touchscreen as well.
They can bring this Diesel variant to South Africa (since Diesel is preferred there as it is cheaper than Unleaded). The only concern is whether it can run with South African Euro-2 Diesel fuel
The start stop issue is a common one with Mazda. I’ve owned an MX-30 mild hybrid for nearly 3 years now, hate it when I’ve activated the start stop with auto hold on, because when I turn the engine back on, it’s incredibly jerky and pushy.
I truly think this diesel engine would be perfect if one thing was different. If it had more torque, I have an f pace 30d, a 3.0L tt v6 diesel with 300hp and 700nm torque, im not a massive fan of diesels for day to day, but the extra torque has made me fall in love with it, I just think this doesn't have enough of it
550 nm is plenty, you are acting like a cringy child with your need for attention screaming "i have more! i have more!" to strangers on the internet. Grow up.
Not sure why people are moaning and groaning about the design. Mazda designs and design language are top of their class unlike the confusing and mismatch styling of Hyundai/Kia.
When you say 'mismatched styling' are you referring to the fact that each model is different, has personality and isn't a cut & paste of the last model?
Regarding the mirrors, ever since they switched to their Skyactiv line up they have been using two different types of mirrors. For passenger side they use a Convex type so you get a wide angle but unfortunately use a flat mirror for the drivers side hence the narrow view. I found out that in the America and I think Canada as well that this is standard fitting on all cars not just Mazda. Unfortunately for the rest of world we don’t get a Convex mirror for the drivers. I guess it’s cheaper for Mazda to swap them around from LHD to RHD.
@@loeuf You get used to it but still notice it when reversing or merging. Which Mazda did you get? I got a 2022 CX-30 and mine has reverse tilt for both mirrors which really helps.
@@loeuf how are you liking the car? If you have the feature which is usually reserved for the upper trims then all you have to do is push the mirror button associated which side you would like and then put it in reverse and watch the magic happen. Push the button again to turn it off. It will light up telling which mirror is activated.
@@stevendellavo1959 oh damn!! i just tested it out and it worked omg. i kinda wish it could do both of them at once but still that’s so useful! and i absolutely love the car, it makes me smile every time i hop inside lol. what about you?
we are expecting two ! is it possible to equip the second row with two convertible seats, such as the Maxi Cosi Pria, positioned in the middle and on the left, while still accommodating a medium-sized adult on the right side? and can you suggest any alternatives for the carseats
Well.not sure where to start the lowest i got the 280hp was 6.5lper100 and the 340hp was 7.7lper100 the steering softens up after 5k and the kinetic suspension keeps it pretty level on hard turns and it will kick out side ways if you don't watch the turns lpl need to try the jp4 tune
17:48 this jerkiness seems consistent with the CX-60. I drove it for a day as a service replacement car and I was not impressed with the drive at all. That was very disappointing.
Hi Paul, i know this is late after you’ve made the video, if you had the choice between this, the xc90 and a prado comparing against azami trims which car would you pick?
Mazda strong things are: 1-high quality and high class fit and finish. 2-fun to drive. 3-100% Reliability .. Prices are high because it is not poor Toyota and Kia basic quality fit and finish and not boring to drive like this brands
@@1fatsussexthat’s interesting. Because I heard people saying Mazda Diesel engine is not that reliable, but I never know what is the problem. Btw I would never spend money on this car anyway, I need a sub, but this car doesn’t suit my purpose.
Is it a dual clutch sequential transmission? How is it for creeping out of junctions that have poor visibility? Is the suspension any better in reality that that of the dire CX60 which is being recalled for a very unusual suspension change for greater comfort?
I have got one of this in Melbourne. My fuel economy is actually 6.1 not turning the air condition(I don't need them apart Summer). I normally drive about 40 km to Parkville for School , so it is kind of 1/6 city traffic 1/2 M3 high way and rest normal suburb. I think I can do about 5.8-5.9 if I don't drive in the City street which was designed for horse(LOL). Istop function is still crap now but some say the transmission become better after 10000Km , I am looking forward to it.
Mazda wants to be a premium brand, yet doesn't offer privacy glass standard in any model in Australia, and in NZ this car is only available in one spec and no even an option to get different interior colours. Mazda is really messing around with us here.
Yea but look at the New Zealand market though, that market is bigger on second hand used cars as opposed to new cars. Majority of the kiwis are broke anyway they ain’t tryna go out and buy these expensive new Mazda’s.
This is the first review where someone complained about the interior... a bmw/audi/mercedes is at least 15-20% more expensive have Less warranty , more expensive to run, and are probably less reliable. German yttester got up to 3l/100 kmhypermiling the mazda.4-5l/100km not uncommon. Giving it the beans it stays under 7l. Touchscreen possible when driving by enabling in mazda menu. Start/stop can be disabled via voice control etc.
I don't think your 80-120kmh time is fair as the car is already accelerating. You should be cruising at 100kmh then maximum accelerate to assess the time. This demonstrates the kickdown and transmission response all which you're not doing in your test which would more closely simulate a passing time.
The cx90 base to mid spec model biggest obstacle might be the cx9 . For a spec that touch 100k, its hard not to choose Lexus over this. This is a weird product for Mazda.
I noticed in a Mazda 3 the other day it had the option in settings to turn on touchscreen while driving? It's was toggled off by default. That said I use the rotary wheel to prevent finger marks
@@jeremybean-hodges6397 Went out yesterday to check that it was a touchscreen and it was. If you have the 8.8" screen it is not a touchscreen. If you have the 10.2" screen that is optional with the vision pack in lower models in late 2023 IT IS TOUCH SCREEN. Upgraded a 2020 Mazda 3 g20 touring which did not have touch screen to 2023 G25 Astina which has touch screen. SOURCE: I'VE OWNED 2!
Canasa does have factories for the us market but Mazda builds cars at us factory with left hand layouts. Australian market is smaller and has right hand layouts so they have to import from japan and not other markets. Same reason why prices in UK are even higher than Australia as well all the other European countries
Why nobody bitching about rav4 pricing. Toyota has raised it many2 times. My mate finally will get his rav4 cruiser after waiting almost 18months in december for 62k driveaway, yet the interior has more plastic than MG brand from china that only cost half... why ppl why
Mazda's choice to have their SUVs have the same name (CX-) makes their cars looks the same and difficult to differentiate and love, unlike KIA (Sorento, Sportage, etc) and Hyundai (Santa-Fe, Tucson). Maybe it works for them...
Why all the irrational hatred against Mazda and their pricing? This costs less than a smaller Genesis GV80. Also all the people writing dumb comments here have no idea what a commparably equipped german model even costs. Go to the Mercedes website and build a GLS... Lexus does NOT even offer any comparable model to this (and if they did it would have a smaller 4-cylinder engine, no diesel option and would be still more expensive)
Why all the irrational hatred against Mazda and their pricing? This costs less than a smaller Genesis GV80. Also all the people writing dumb comments here have no idea what a commparably equipped german model even costs. Go to the Mercedes website and build a GLS... Lexus does NOT even offer any comparable model to this (and if they did it would have a smaller 4-cylinder engine, no diesel option and would be still more expensive)
i dont get it, this inline 6, 3.3 litre diesel in australian market, its only able to tow 2 tons, and payload of 570kg? i use SUVs for the family, as well as for towing caravan, not off road though(i am not Australian, but caravan trip is kind like half of Australian families tradition, and i love it, good for family and kids, also feeling supper cool if you know how to reverse the bloody thing into the parking lot), i am not towing a crazy 3.5 tons of caravan, but still, a light duty jayco pop top caravan for a family of four will be around 1.8 ton, plus two gas bottle, and food and some other craps in the caravan, it will be easily over the 2 ton limit. what Mazda makes diesel engine for a 7 seater SUV with so low towing capacity for?? but if people do not need to tow, it might be a good SUV for family, least from the numbers.
What i hate about mazda is that their High end SUV is basically a XXL size version of their Small size SUV. There is no uniqueness across the range. They are dreaming with this price tag. Look at jeep... did same and now selling top end for the price of mid spec, and mid spec for price of base
Not at all a value for money. That screen, interior, length of the vehicle, and finally, the price is a big bummer. But great video to understand all of these.
Mazda tried this and failed in the 90s with Mazda 929, it was big flop. They should stay in their lane, in the middle. I had an awesome 626, they brought the 626 Cronos (Fords Telsar), the Mazda 6, absolute gems in their class. If they really want to go Luxury they should learn from peers like Toyota and Nissan who created a separate luxury brand like Lexus and INFINITY respectively, and do it properly.
Paul, you can't be serious about your assessment on the build quality by trying to wobble the centre arm rest and the dashboard, that is something a primary school child would attempt. If you're going to talk about build quality, surely you can approach it with a little more enthusiasm and science. You spent more time discussing the available colours and the Key Fob buttons.
Mazda need a Compact Ute it could be based on CX-10 CX-20 & CX30 all that models can be ready by 2026 this is the way for Mazda to go discontinue these models 2 CX-3 CX-4 & CX-5 with the Compact Ute CX-10-CX-90 3 & 6 Mazda will have enough models this is the way to go.
Why all the irrational hatred against Mazda and their pricing? This costs less than a smaller Genesis GV80. Also all the people writing dumb comments here have no idea what a commparably equipped german model even costs. Go to the Mercedes website and build a GLS... Lexus does NOT even offer any comparable model to this (and if they did it would have a smaller 4-cylinder engine, no diesel option and would be still more expensive)
This comparison makes absolutely zero sense. LC Prado is NOT a unibody vehicle, it drives MUCH WORSE onroad (so for 99.99% of customers) and gets MUCH WORSE fuel economy.
Thanks, Paul.
I’ve got a suggestion:
It’s great that you tell us about car functionality / behaviour that you don’t like, but could you also tell us if these issues can be mitigated / disabled?
eg. “Sports” mode heavy steering.
eg. Auto engine Stop / Start.
eg. Lane Departure assist.
eg. Slow Auto gearbox kickdown.
eg. Propensity to change up to too high a gear for a given speed.
eg. Driver Monitoring.
eg. Auto Emergency Braking.
My ‘24 Outback XT has nearly all of these unwanted behaviours, but I can disable / get around all of them.
Unwanted behaviours can be deal breakers if they can’t be disabled.
Sure thing.
@@CarExpertAusbut what’s the answer? Can they be disabled yes/no?
Paul @@CarExpertAus what is the most fuel economic vehicle in all ICE hybrid formats
Hey Paul, love your reviews.
I actually went to see this in real life and found out that it's a massive car and will require a big garage, meaning it will not fit in your average garage. Length wise, it's a bit longer than a CX9. So if anyone is planning on buying one, I would recommend getting a test drive park in your garage and see if it fits.
Ridiculous that anyone is buying stuff this big. Aside from the obvious emissions issues, they are a massive hazard on the road to everyone else.
@@froggy0162LMAO, have you considered that some people might have large family?
@@audiophile1838That’s such a bullshit justification for these stupid things. Aside from the obvious retort being “try contraception next time…”, these stupid oversized SUVs are not designed to be space efficient or prioritise usability for multiple passengers. They have less space in them than infinitely better designs like the good old fashioned people mover. A Renault Scenic had more room in it than this stupid thing.
No, spare me the whole “but families” line - it’s all about fashion and being bigger than everyone else. They’re a dumb car for dumb people.
Try driving a Ford Everest, Amarok or BMW X7@@froggy0162
@@froggy0162
Not if you do a massive amount of country driving including gravel roads, and carry up to a months shopping as well. Great alternative to buying a lumbering 4WD especially when 95 percent of my driving is on sealed roads.
We bought a CX-60, and it has been a terrible experience. We’ve had problems every day. In just six months, we’ve had to bring it in for recalls and software resets five times. The value has already dropped by $10,000. Please don’t buy the CX-60.
Just a heads up that the touchscreen can be made to work in motion if you jump in the settings. Annoying that it isn't enabled from factory but it is there :)
Check in the settings. The touchscreen can be enabled at all speeds while smart phone mirroring. Might want to make sure of these things before you ding a vehicle for it in a review. Also…it’s a RWD which means the transmission is positioned under the center console area which is why the center console is so shallow. The same thing occurs in just about any vehicle of this side with a longitudinal engine.
Many rear wheel drive cars have deep centre consoles...even the old Ford Territory from over 15 years ago.
@@ymml467. There are exceptions to every rule. The vast majority of rear wheel drive vehicles that aren’t trucks have shallower center consoles than their FWD counterparts.
Mazda cx-60 and cx-90 look too Mazda. I personally don't think they look like what their prices suggest. They look good and that's it.
With the current exterior design, the subpar premium interior, it's a bold call to ask for a bag of money even they are cheaper than the competitors. I've called several Mazda dealers, they have cx-60 stocks for most of the trims with discounts, and that says something in 2023. I've also spoken to some friends and they won't mind at all to spend 15k-20k extra on the x3 if they have to spend 70K on a car already which is the price for the cx-60 (not the base model). TBH, if you compare X3 to cx-60, BMW's interior is at least one level above.
You can't deny the power of the badge when you ask for a premium price. I would say this, if Mazda offers the similar hybrid engines (not PHEV) as Lexus, it will be a much easier sell. These days in 2023, I'm really not sure how you can sell v6 petrol or even diesel engines on family vehicles without being super performant (like the German v6 competitors). Plus, I've tried the cx-60 and X3, X3 drives much better. I mean much.
A Lexus ES hybrid (300h) is 73K drive away. I know it's a sedan not a SUV. But it's a proper big family car with a proper premium interior and a premium badge.
This cx-90 to me is in an even worse situation than the cx-60.
To me, the only chance I would consider Mazda is the potential reliability. But TBH, if I spend 70K/80k on a car, I would trade it in for my next car after 5 years. If you can afford a 80k car, how much you would truely care about the depreciation.
I surprised Mazda haven't made their own Ute with the lnline 6 diesel engine
Would be good to see it in the Mazda BT50
A ute with a long bonnet would look weird
@@justineherbolingo8857just make the bed longer so it fits the proportion😅
Hey its a new engine. Who knows 😏
they have been focused on the cx 2 digit cars so they might go back to BT 50 after
it is what it is, only the people who can afford it can buy it. if its too over priced for you then simple, buy something within your price range.
Good talking 👏 👍
Nice review guys and some interesting insights.
I had great hopes when I heard that Toyota and Maza were working together on a straight 6 petrol and a straight 6 diesel. The Diesel Straight 6 was a great thought and in the EV crazy world we live in ATM.
1. The +ives. Would have delivered great economy and a long engine life. Much longer than an EV.
2. The build quality of the CX-90s is exceptional. Body panels with 3-4 mm all around the car. Apparently, people who work in that plant in Japan have to have many years of experience - ie: People who do a very high quality job are recognised in Mazda for that.
3. Engine performance great and reliability and performance of a straight 6 so much better than a V6.
4. Ergonomics inside are great.
However, the negatives for me.
5. Another review I saw it looks like the timing chain is at the back of the engine. So you have to drop the engine out to do anything at the back of the engine. ie: Sell it before you get to 150,000 kms. Lots of expensive maintenance implications down the track and not just timing chain.
6. If You get rear ended and you've lost not just the bumper area but the hatch as well. Its got the back end profile of Roger Ramjets face - side on.
7. ICE/Hybrid integration - looks very ordinary what has been delivered, and in keeping with what we normally get from Mazda.
A question
8. Is the spare a full size or a run flat?
Mazda typically give run flat tyres which might be ok to get you to your local Bob Janes in the CBD but if travelling Brisbane to Melbourne as sometimes do, could be a real PIA.
Australians are lucky! Your Mazda CX-90s have front center mounted airbags to prevent the driver and the front occupants from bumping heads during a side impact/collision. If you look at the inner driver's side seat at 7:35, you will see a sticker that says "SRS Airbag." That is the front, center airbag, a great safety feature that the CX-90s in the USA do not have.
Would be great if the AWD system can be put to off road test or diagonal roller test comparing with other system like Subaru symmetrical etc
Based on the engine I6 build, I wouldn't be surprised if this engine outlasts the V6 engines in the LC300 and Ford ranger/everest.
An in-line cylinders is always going to be the best balanced engine design, as for the “hot v” in the 300 that’s a big let down of Toyota and shouldn’t of been allowed to pass engineering of approval, I think the ranger v6 is certainly better than the 300 being slightly detuned against the 300 plus the ranger is lighter so it’s less strain with that alone.
@@ev0watThe Ranger V6 is a revised older Land Rover Discovery engine. I wouldn't trust it at all...
@@dr.killjoy5001 a revised means atleast it’s been upgraded, better than a hot V oil burner which Toyota admits in its manual it will burn 30% of its oil by each service interval.
I dislike start/stop systems that much it would prevent me from buying any vehicle with it, especially if it can't be disabled.
Agreed.
Our CX8 is a great car but the stop start has to be turned off each time you hope in. Easy to do but a pain in the arse for sure.
I have a VW Touareg stop start is always turned of when I start the engine, thankfully it's just a push button.
Mazda will never be able to out-Toyota or out-Lexus Toyota. Mazda needs to zig while Toyota zags. Can't chase average housewife. Mazda is correct in making their vehicles the enthusiast choice in each segment they compete in.
Who told you Mazda wants to out-Toyota?¿ Don't be delusional
How come you didn't do a lane keeping assistance test
People need to realise when you buy Mazda you're paying for a reliable car
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I am not a fan of the space saver spare tyre. That being said my experience with Mazda's is that with the spare being a space saver when you replace a flat the tyre you take off doesn't fit in the slot where the space saver was sitting. The question I have in this case is if you have a car full of people 6/7 and luggage and you get a flat where does the replaced tyre go? Have Mazda fixed that issue?
You know, that's a great point. I'll bet they aren't the only manufacturer to have this problem - but nobody should!
That is a great point. Not much to do, you end up packing the flat along with your luggage. Really bad experience because the flat is dirty.
Why all the irrational hatred against Mazda and their pricing? This costs less than a smaller Genesis GV80. Also all the people writing dumb comments here have no idea what a commparably equipped german model even costs. Go to the Mercedes website and build a GLS...
Lexus does NOT even offer any comparable model to this (and if they did it would have a smaller 4-cylinder engine, no diesel option and would be still more expensive)
I really don't understand why people who are actually liking & praising this car.
Come on people!! Even a Hyundai Palisade overshadows this Mazda in every aspect apart from engine power. But again, who needs power in a family SUV not destined for offroading?!!
Blind spot cameras, heated & cooled seats both front & middle row, better room in third row with better AC cooling, way better appointed interior with better materials, Hyundai Bluelink service, remote parking assist feature, better 360° cameras, way better music system, more interior colour options, actual full-time working touchscreen,.... I can go on & on. This Mazda is more like as Mitsubishi in comparison to say Genesis
I think Mazda should have pitched it & priced it to compete with Mitsubishi Outlander or Toyota Kluger. Aiming at Volvo or Genesis as comparison is like a Domino's pizza compared to a Vapiano pizza
@@gauravsharma6 Pizza and cars are not the same thing. The palisade is a great car, but this Mazda has a drivetrain you won't find in any other car. Mazda has a reputation for its quality and sophisticated engineering, and also its premium design. However, the interior of this car is pretty subjective.
Ive ordered a santa fe. But i was thinking of getting this cx90 as well. Interior of the santa fe is really nice.
@@sleepy1171 I was in the exact same situation as you. I really wanted to get the Santa Fe, but I heard some things about reliability problems on Hyundai cars, which kind of steered me away. But, nonetheless, Hyundai cars are great in general and I think you made a great choice.
@@serilvelmurugan1177 Hey thanks ! I've been watching all the reviews from TH-camrs in Australia that review the SF. They all say it's great, they all say the back design of it is questionable haha. I really hope it's reliable enough as primarily it'll be for the wife and 2 little ones (I'll drive my old run about).
If money wasn't an issue, I'd just throw the wife in a Defender or Land Cruiser haha. Wouldn't that be nice.
No autonomy test for the CX90??
I’m surprised at some the comments. I’m actually looking at one of these but in the top model with the SP package which adds all the nice materials and colour.
Also the inline 6 is a great engine. Also it’s still 40k cheaper than a Q7 so what are you talking about with your high prices?
Even the GV80 is another 25k
Good purchase, Mazda cars have come along way and feel exceptionally premium to drive, solid build quality and engineering, the skyActive engines blew me away for a naturally aspirated engine the performance was unreal.
european brand fanboys are just toxic trash talkers who feel the need to put this down in order to avoid feeling like they overpaid for their european vehicle
This mazda is quite overpriced. Should be around $40k if we compare it to some audi q7
you fail at trolling, kid@@oscar7476
@@oscar7476 I think Toyota is overpriced but people like what they like and will pay for it. I personally hate Audi etc you pay cheaper upfront but they depreciate quick and lose a lot of money on the back end, you get stung on servicing and repair costs, Mazda is way more reliable, full of less sensor codes etc. I’d take a Mazda anyday. Go and drive the cx90 yourself before judging it on Paul’s review who is probably getting paid by certain manufacturers, he’s not doing all this with a channel, building a business around it all for free, he’s getting paid.
Just bought one. An amazing car for the price. Got the Azami spec with the SP package. It is luxurious inside. A similar car with the specifications made by a European car would be at least $50K more expensive. Build quality is exceptional as well. A good product for what you get for the price from Mazda.
It is no where as luxurious as German luxury brands but I see they have tried. Congrats anyways!
Can’t believe how expensive the cars are in Australia
Would be nice
That i-stop system does a significant wear to the drivetrain so basically they sell you a burning match and in a matter of 3 years you gotta replace everything which's gonna cost a small fortune.
I was also worried about that. Then I bought a 2015 Mazda 3. Incredibly reliable car 😮 and no... no such fear of engine stop start anymore, 8 years and going strong.
Don't forget, lots of people were worried about turbo wearing out and now pretty much everything has one.
@@iftea7 Good thing to hear
This and the 60 both have space saver tyres. That is an automatic no sale for a car like this, especially at this price. This is Australia, we have extensive expanses of roadways which are quite remote. Not at all appropriate for the use of space savers.
The Azumi model is worth the difference to the GT which has a lots of cheap bright plastics and that mainly on that huge centre consul which also way too big for the available space in front. Never thought I would feel cramped for knee spread room in the front seat of such a large car. Also the styling is a step backward from the CX9. There is a bulge on the back door at taillight level that is exactly parallel to the bumper which means if you hit the bumper then you crash the rear door as well. Auto braking want stop that if you are dabbing the brakes while reversing and will not stop someone else driving into you. Expensive repair there.
As a current Mazda3 owner and seriouusly considering a trade in for a newish cx5, their new range is gonna bomb isn't it?
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Its not easy competing with german rivals. At least they tried i will give them that. I think they wanted an x7/q7 competitor but long way off still.
When can you do a review on the new isuzu dmax? It's being reviewed currently but in the languages we don't understand. Could you review it for us.
Is this the facelift?
@@CarExpertAus I have no idea brother. You go out there and dig for us.
@@CarExpertAus it looks like a face lift. The headlights have changed a bit and so are the taillights.
Functionality of the central screen is baffling. Why has a screen that is touch capable not utilise that functionality the car but only for phone use and even then when stationery? That's bizarre. It's amazing with these types of outcomes can still occur.
The rotary dial is super easy to use. Love it in my Mazda.
I actually prefer using the rotary dial as opposed to the touchscreen. Took a few weeks of getting used to, but the shortcut buttons for maps and music is just superb. Way less distracting than a touchscreen as well.
Something called safety that's why it's done.
@@nicholastahan7670 and yet every other car has touch functionality. Nup
They can bring this Diesel variant to South Africa (since Diesel is preferred there as it is cheaper than Unleaded).
The only concern is whether it can run with South African Euro-2 Diesel fuel
Something weird happening with that 3/4 rear section...can't quiet put my finger on it 😅 Great review as always 👍
The start stop issue is a common one with Mazda. I’ve owned an MX-30 mild hybrid for nearly 3 years now, hate it when I’ve activated the start stop with auto hold on, because when I turn the engine back on, it’s incredibly jerky and pushy.
Mazda making some awesome looking cars. Have the mazda 6 gl and it looks very sporty. This one looks awesome too
I truly think this diesel engine would be perfect if one thing was different. If it had more torque, I have an f pace 30d, a 3.0L tt v6 diesel with 300hp and 700nm torque, im not a massive fan of diesels for day to day, but the extra torque has made me fall in love with it, I just think this doesn't have enough of it
550 nm is plenty, you are acting like a cringy child with your need for attention screaming "i have more! i have more!" to strangers on the internet. Grow up.
Not sure why people are moaning and groaning about the design. Mazda designs and design language are top of their class unlike the confusing and mismatch styling of Hyundai/Kia.
When you say 'mismatched styling' are you referring to the fact that each model is different, has personality and isn't a cut & paste of the last model?
Regarding the mirrors, ever since they switched to their Skyactiv line up they have been using two different types of mirrors. For passenger side they use a Convex type so you get a wide angle but unfortunately use a flat mirror for the drivers side hence the narrow view.
I found out that in the America and I think Canada as well that this is standard fitting on all cars not just Mazda. Unfortunately for the rest of world we don’t get a Convex mirror for the drivers. I guess it’s cheaper for Mazda to swap them around from LHD to RHD.
i noticed this when i got my mazda, and it was really worrying for a few weeks until i got used to it
@@loeuf You get used to it but still notice it when reversing or merging. Which Mazda did you get? I got a 2022 CX-30 and mine has reverse tilt for both mirrors which really helps.
@@stevendellavo1959 yeah, exactly. i got a 2023 CX-30, but im not sure if i have reverse tilt on my mirrors. how do you use that?
@@loeuf how are you liking the car? If you have the feature which is usually reserved for the upper trims then all you have to do is push the mirror button associated which side you would like and then put it in reverse and watch the magic happen. Push the button again to turn it off. It will light up telling which mirror is activated.
@@stevendellavo1959 oh damn!! i just tested it out and it worked omg. i kinda wish it could do both of them at once but still that’s so useful!
and i absolutely love the car, it makes me smile every time i hop inside lol. what about you?
we are expecting two ! is it possible to equip the second row with two convertible seats, such as the Maxi Cosi Pria, positioned in the middle and on the left, while still accommodating a medium-sized adult on the right side? and can you suggest any alternatives for the carseats
Why do we have to pay for heated seat and wheel in Australia?
Well.not sure where to start the lowest i got the 280hp was 6.5lper100 and the 340hp was 7.7lper100 the steering softens up after 5k and the kinetic suspension keeps it pretty level on hard turns and it will kick out side ways if you don't watch the turns lpl need to try the jp4 tune
17:48 this jerkiness seems consistent with the CX-60. I drove it for a day as a service replacement car and I was not impressed with the drive at all. That was very disappointing.
Hi Paul, i know this is late after you’ve made the video, if you had the choice between this, the xc90 and a prado comparing against azami trims which car would you pick?
Mazda strong things are:
1-high quality and high class fit and finish.
2-fun to drive.
3-100% Reliability ..
Prices are high because it is not poor Toyota and Kia basic quality fit and finish and not boring to drive like this brands
Not really, in most comparisons come out similar to the rest, massive wait list for Toyota not Mazda...
Mazda is fun to drive? I don't know man, they are pretty boring, bland cars. Good quality I agree - not worth the price they are asking for though.
I’m glad you like it. I don’t agree but I believe its an attempt at reinvention. I’ll check back next generation and see how it’s progressed.
100% reliability, ask owners on diesel Mazda CX-5 and 6 how reliable they are. Mazda have swapped out nearly every engine under warranty
@@1fatsussexthat’s interesting. Because I heard people saying Mazda Diesel engine is not that reliable, but I never know what is the problem. Btw I would never spend money on this car anyway, I need a sub, but this car doesn’t suit my purpose.
Good review Paul, but I wonder if for the Money a CX-9 in Asami trim with captains chairs would be a better deal.
Can you please do a comparison review of Kluger vs Pathfinder vs CX90 model 2024
Is it a dual clutch sequential transmission? How is it for creeping out of junctions that have poor visibility? Is the suspension any better in reality that that of the dire CX60 which is being recalled for a very unusual suspension change for greater comfort?
It's pretty good, not as good as VW
I have got one of this in Melbourne. My fuel economy is actually 6.1 not turning the air condition(I don't need them apart Summer). I normally drive about 40 km to Parkville for School , so it is kind of 1/6 city traffic 1/2 M3 high way and rest normal suburb. I think I can do about 5.8-5.9 if I don't drive in the City street which was designed for horse(LOL). Istop function is still crap now but some say the transmission become better after 10000Km , I am looking forward to it.
overall enjoy the purchase but I did not get the GT because I don't want sunroof and slime tire
Oh interesting.
You drive a CX90 on the way to your school?
is the CX90 the same engine as the CX80?
Yes
Yup
I like this a lot. GT looks the pick of the range. Way less boring than a Kluger, Palisade, Sorrento etc
Mazda wants to be a premium brand, yet doesn't offer privacy glass standard in any model in Australia, and in NZ this car is only available in one spec and no even an option to get different interior colours. Mazda is really messing around with us here.
Yea but look at the New Zealand market though, that market is bigger on second hand used cars as opposed to new cars. Majority of the kiwis are broke anyway they ain’t tryna go out and buy these expensive new Mazda’s.
This is the first review where someone complained about the interior... a bmw/audi/mercedes is at least 15-20% more expensive have Less warranty , more expensive to run, and are probably less reliable. German yttester got up to 3l/100 kmhypermiling the mazda.4-5l/100km not uncommon. Giving it the beans it stays under 7l.
Touchscreen possible when driving by enabling in mazda menu. Start/stop can be disabled via voice control etc.
Water bottle had a advert label printed on it 😂
I don't think your 80-120kmh time is fair as the car is already accelerating. You should be cruising at 100kmh then maximum accelerate to assess the time. This demonstrates the kickdown and transmission response all which you're not doing in your test which would more closely simulate a passing time.
Please compare to a low option GV80. Looking at both for the next family car.
For its price, it must have a remote start function maybe?
No , Mazda connect isn’t coming out till next year.
I’m a single gent now and I’d love one of these 6cyl diesel haulers.
The cx90 base to mid spec model biggest obstacle might be the cx9 . For a spec that touch 100k, its hard not to choose Lexus over this. This is a weird product for Mazda.
Which Lexus? Does Australia get the Tx? Also they suffer from limited supply, waiting times and mark-ups.
I noticed in a Mazda 3 the other day it had the option in settings to turn on touchscreen while driving? It's was toggled off by default. That said I use the rotary wheel to prevent finger marks
New 3s don’t have touchscreen.
@@jeremybean-hodges6397 even the ones with the 10.2" screen? If not could be a software issue? It's 100% there though. Will check and report back
Just checked, it definitely has a 10.25" touchscreen August build 2023. Old 8.8" unit didn't.
@@wrigzzx it is a screen, not a touchscreen.
Source: I own one!
@@jeremybean-hodges6397 Went out yesterday to check that it was a touchscreen and it was. If you have the 8.8" screen it is not a touchscreen. If you have the 10.2" screen that is optional with the vision pack in lower models in late 2023 IT IS TOUCH SCREEN. Upgraded a 2020 Mazda 3 g20 touring which did not have touch screen to 2023 G25 Astina which has touch screen.
SOURCE: I'VE OWNED 2!
So sexy.
How are people still buying crappy Hyundais and Kia’s when you can have this quality car!
Stunning looking car. 🙂👌👊👊👍
The new update smoothed out the transmission
Day 2
Suv tow mega test of 1500kg
Between the
Santa Fe diesel
Cx60/90 diesel
Xc 90
Q7
X5
Medium - large ish suv category
Mid spec cx90 in Canada is 63k Aud. Why is this car 85k Aud in Australia?
That's the Aussie sucker tax.
Import costs and taxes factor into it. We don't exactly build cars here.
Luxury car tax kicks in around this point
@@rexthesheep Nor does Canada ~
Canasa does have factories for the us market but Mazda builds cars at us factory with left hand layouts. Australian market is smaller and has right hand layouts so they have to import from japan and not other markets. Same reason why prices in UK are even higher than Australia as well all the other European countries
Why nobody bitching about rav4 pricing. Toyota has raised it many2 times. My mate finally will get his rav4 cruiser after waiting almost 18months in december for 62k driveaway, yet the interior has more plastic than MG brand from china that only cost half... why ppl why
Mazda's choice to have their SUVs have the same name (CX-) makes their cars looks the same and difficult to differentiate and love, unlike KIA (Sorento, Sportage, etc) and Hyundai (Santa-Fe, Tucson). Maybe it works for them...
Mazda is pricing themselves out of the market
Nice looking car. Prefer that silver material in the interior than that easily soiled piano black finish.
There’s a new Mazda SUV everyday. Are they actually that different?
Would love to see CX90 Diesel variant for the Philippine market =)
smartphone mirroring without touch screen is a show stopper
Aston martin dbx 707?
I bought cx 90 touring
Don’t have lane keep assist . I did not check before buying I thought it will be there. Disappointed ☹️
What?? No lane keeping test for this review?
That 100-0 braking distance is awful!
Edit- probably from the ABS trying to keep it from locking up in the wet
This or the CX8?
Wonder how long Mazda have left, prices are insane! Sales where i am, i complete wankers..
Why all the irrational hatred against Mazda and their pricing? This costs less than a smaller Genesis GV80. Also all the people writing dumb comments here have no idea what a commparably equipped german model even costs. Go to the Mercedes website and build a GLS...
Lexus does NOT even offer any comparable model to this (and if they did it would have a smaller 4-cylinder engine, no diesel option and would be still more expensive)
They should never have discontinued the CX9. Most people won’t pay this much money for a Mazda.
CX9 was just as expensive though.
@@lukes5533not really. The top spec cx9 price was similar to the bottom spec cx90 price.
@hashmi1195 A few years back when a friend bought a top spec CX 9 he paid 85K. Prices have varied over the years and he may have added some options.
But the cx9 doesn't gave an inline 6, AWD
Why all the irrational hatred against Mazda and their pricing? This costs less than a smaller Genesis GV80. Also all the people writing dumb comments here have no idea what a commparably equipped german model even costs. Go to the Mercedes website and build a GLS...
Lexus does NOT even offer any comparable model to this (and if they did it would have a smaller 4-cylinder engine, no diesel option and would be still more expensive)
i dont get it, this inline 6, 3.3 litre diesel in australian market, its only able to tow 2 tons, and payload of 570kg? i use SUVs for the family, as well as for towing caravan, not off road though(i am not Australian, but caravan trip is kind like half of Australian families tradition, and i love it, good for family and kids, also feeling supper cool if you know how to reverse the bloody thing into the parking lot), i am not towing a crazy 3.5 tons of caravan, but still, a light duty jayco pop top caravan for a family of four will be around 1.8 ton, plus two gas bottle, and food and some other craps in the caravan, it will be easily over the 2 ton limit. what Mazda makes diesel engine for a 7 seater SUV with so low towing capacity for?? but if people do not need to tow, it might be a good SUV for family, least from the numbers.
What i hate about mazda is that their High end SUV is basically a XXL size version of their Small size SUV.
There is no uniqueness across the range.
They are dreaming with this price tag. Look at jeep... did same and now selling top end for the price of mid spec, and mid spec for price of base
Not at all a value for money. That screen, interior, length of the vehicle, and finally, the price is a big bummer. But great video to understand all of these.
Thanks a lot!
good test
Mazda tried this and failed in the 90s with Mazda 929, it was big flop. They should stay in their lane, in the middle. I had an awesome 626, they brought the 626 Cronos (Fords Telsar), the Mazda 6, absolute gems in their class. If they really want to go Luxury they should learn from peers like Toyota and Nissan who created a separate luxury brand like Lexus and INFINITY respectively, and do it properly.
Nice looking car, gotta say I wouldn't want to be in that third row as an adult...I'm only 5'4" and that row does not look comfy at all.
Agree. Claustrophobic with tiny portion of window.
I would think more Genesis GV80 then a Hyundai Palisade
they wont sell many of these, laughable prices
Name a unibody 3-row SUV with 6-cylinder TURBO engine that costs less, I am waiting...
Buy a cheap mainstream smaller vehicle. You get a new car for an affordable price.
Paul, you can't be serious about your assessment on the build quality by trying to wobble the centre arm rest and the dashboard, that is something a primary school child would attempt. If you're going to talk about build quality, surely you can approach it with a little more enthusiasm and science. You spent more time discussing the available colours and the Key Fob buttons.
The CX-90 should come to South Africa 2025 than CX-80 also that year .
Magnificent motor vehicle i love oAzami company has
Mazda need a Compact Ute it could be based on CX-10 CX-20 & CX30 all that models can be ready by 2026 this is the way for Mazda to go discontinue these models 2 CX-3 CX-4 & CX-5 with the Compact Ute CX-10-CX-90 3 & 6 Mazda will have enough models this is the way to go.
The would be different if they just change the INFOTAINMENT
Artisan red like burgundy.
Nice looking car but the price expensive
CX here of course stands for Controversial Crossover.
Mazda are kidding themselves way overpriced. Also if you can't turn off stop start not interested.
Why all the irrational hatred against Mazda and their pricing? This costs less than a smaller Genesis GV80. Also all the people writing dumb comments here have no idea what a commparably equipped german model even costs. Go to the Mercedes website and build a GLS...
Lexus does NOT even offer any comparable model to this (and if they did it would have a smaller 4-cylinder engine, no diesel option and would be still more expensive)
I do think the name isn’t that great given it is so close to the Volvo competitor. ie. XC90 vs CX90...
I'd rather the brown interior
Mazda can bring the MX-30 to Australia the CX-90 have landed in Australia .
For this price... I could buy a LC PRADO
I could buy a hot hatch as well...2 different vehicles! Apples and oranges
This comparison makes absolutely zero sense. LC Prado is NOT a unibody vehicle, it drives MUCH WORSE onroad (so for 99.99% of customers) and gets MUCH WORSE fuel economy.
Can you disable any of these annoying features?
You can through settings
By default, the istop should be disabled and auto hold should be enabled but Mazda for some reason does the opposite.