ASMR Flutter Same. My jaw dropped, and it added so much to the relationship between Tony and Peter. It was perfect, because it showed that he does care, all while doing it in a ver Tony Stark way
I feel you! so was Iron Man coming to save the day. I hadn't seen a single frame of the movie before actually going to watch it and it made for incredible surprises for me.
When the villain's real identity was revealed I legit loudly gasped in the cinema because the movie was so laid back and happy-go-lucky that I almost forgot that I was watching a superhero movie and I was not prepared for that plot twist tbh
When that happened, the entire theater was deathly silent...until someone behind us let out a HUGE sitcom-style gasp that I felt that perfectly described our collective reactions perfectly. Just one incredibly loud intake of breath.
I absolutely love that they had that moment where peter is having a breakdown under the rubble. They never show the hero struggling like that. Also the fact that everybody seems to forget that teenagers are way more likely to have depression or anxiety without knowing it and, as a fellow teen, being stuck like that would definitely send a 15 year old into a panic attack or at least some crying and hyperventilating. Seriously, he's a sophomore and is stuck under a pile of rubble and is too tired and weak to get out... being stuck because you're weak is literally every teens fear. And the sobbing and calling for help was a really good touch... honestly I'd probably have a full on melt down and give up, but the fact that he didn't helps his story really progress.
You're totally right and expressed my thoughts on this scene better than I could myself. It was such an intense, heart-gripping moment, thanks to the lack of background music, cold dark colors and Holland's acting skills... I actually felt a ball form in my throat at one point !
Exactly! I remember having a very similar thing happen to me in real life. Basically, I tripped and over and hurt myself in a forest (obviously I wasn't covered in rubble) but I had like a mini panic attack where I thought I'd never get out of the forest and that I'd be left there. I called for help and then calmed down after a second and realized hang on a second, I'm fine and I just got up and walked out of the forest. Yes, I was hurt but it was just a graze and it amazes me to this day that such a minor thing made me panic so much. (I do not have panic attacks often. In fact, I have probably only had 4/5 throughout my life)
My main critique was that the love interest felt really under developed, like Liz wasn't really a full character other than 'pretty, nice to peter.' It had a lot of good things going for it, but I did feel like none of the women were written that well
I felt like they played it that way because Peter is a kid and doesn't know what love is and all. He wasn't mature enough to know what it'd be like to have a girlfriend. I feel like in the next movie he'll realise what it's like with his next love interest.
Lizard819 i noticed that too, i felt like the women in the film were very one-dimensional (zendaya is the quirky, edgy loner, liz is the nice, pretty girl, and aunt may is the fun aunt). i would've liked it if they spent a little more time opening up their personalities so that we could like them and empathize with them more
I wasn't a huge fan of Liz's character either, even though she and her relationship with Peter were pretty realistic. She just felt a bit too... bland :p
Lizard819 i agree i feel like zendayas character had a bit more substance and i appreciated that liz wasnt the only important female character in Peters life since she was the love interest, however, to your point, i do agree that they were both underdeveloped and i didnt feel a lot of chemistry if any between liz and peter.
Commander Shepard but i feel like the movie does so much in the way of depicting peters life as peter instead of just spiderman that it seems odd and frankly shallow to simply tack on this person who is supposed to play a meaningful role in peters life
I thought the same with the tony stark voiceover in the scene were he is trying to get up. Like, we understand what he is feeling. Do you really need to shove it down our throats like that?, the trailers spoil all the action and most of the jokes. Never watching a marvel trailer again
And at first i was worried about the vulture being the villain because i thought it could be a little boring. But the fact that they built him with the ultron/ alien parts was just SO clever, i don't know if that is what happens in the comics but it was such a relief that the villains backstory was carefully planned and his motivations were clear, i don't know but for me is one of the best villains in the mcu
I read the Aunt May relationship as her also trying to work out who she is, and having to raise a teenager from a young age that she maybe wasn't prepared for. I liked the Aunt May, it added a bit of complexity and tension to the relationship
I always thought Toby McGuire was a great Spider-man, not really a true Peter Parker to the comics but while Andrew Garfield was closer to the comics Peter Parker, he was a lacking Spider-man even after a couple movies. Tom Holland was like a wholesome amount of both, not totally like either in the comics but with enough likability/youth to still have the same feeling, or the feeling that he WILL be, which is the most important part since it's, at it's core, an origin story still. And his scene in the rumble almost made me cry (and I never cry) because it felt so real, so major props to the actor. And the setting of it being in Queens and ACTUALLY HAVING A DIVERSE CAST at the school was the best part imo. Like, yeah, he's got a hilarious friend who happens to be Asian and yeah his club is made of a cute girl he's got a crush on that happens to be black and a sassy girl who brings up great points about the social climate of America who happens to be mixed...but beyond the moments like Michelle's super brief Washington monument comment (which was brilliant btw), it was just accepted. Liz, as the object of affection, was never exoticized (and she was smart and capable! not just eye candy!) and no one made an Asian nerd joke (because everyone at the school's a nerd, even Flash, who happens to be played by a Guatemalan-American actor). They were just accurate representations of kids in America. I wanted to applaud the casting director when her name came up in the credits, haha, because it was just such a great, diverse breath of fresh air that, for what seems like the first time in Hollywood, felt like...a real high school group. Also I was totally in Academic Decathlon irl in high school so when they used the actual, legit logo of AcDc (what us cool kids called it lol) I was cracking up way harder than I needed to. I thought the movie as a whole was just...fun. It was a perfect summer movie. And I actually liked the cheeky "my friend's call me MJ" at the end, even if was super cheesy. It was one of those movies that you know what they're gonna do (except the Vulture reveal jfc that was good) but you don't hate them for it because you're still having fun.
The entire theatre gasped audibly, and some swore, when Keaton opened the door. I was included in the moment, of course. A stellar moment, and very well presented. -I feel weird about Mary Jane, too. I am used to hating the living daylights out of her, and I don't want to like her. I know her as a bimbo who's not worthy of Peter, and I'd like it to remain that way? It's weird.- Holland's scene under the rumble disturbed me. I just wanted to shut my ears, because I felt incredibly strongly for him, the panic he was experiencing. Heavy scene, and perfectly executed. It was one of the best Marvel movies I've seen in some years, along with Logan.
could you possibly do a review for Baby Driver? you always manage to put my thoughts into words (like with this review and especially your Wonder Woman review) and i'd love to see what your director's brain thought of it
I think this Spider-Man film is the result of learning from the other films. We don't need a dramatic origin story of the death of Uncle Ben. We knew we needed the snarky comments and the light hearted feel of Spider-Man. My one criticism is the lack of anguish from Peter Parker. The one common theme in the comics is Peter's loneliness even though he masks it well. He can't tell his friends that he is Spiderman in the comics out of fear of their safety. Tom Holland is a fantastic Spider-Man, hands down the best version we have seen so far in a live action film. However I just hope that the next film brings a bit more dimension to his character. I think for me we were missing a 'why' for what he does.
one of my favourite bits of Keaton's Vulture is that he is never called the Vulture (apart from Peter's note to Happy) and he ever mocks the guy calling himself the shocker, it's awesome, grounds it a little more.
My parents went and saw it and my dad hated it he said it was boring and that Michael Keaton was shit and I remembered that his favourite movie is suicide squad
I thought the appearance of Donald Glover was a nod to the controversy that he would play Spiderman in the Amazing series. Didn't notice the Miles thing tho... so that's neat :D
I enjoyed Spider-Man Homecoming, but I didn't think it was as good as people are saying it is. I enjoyed all of the performances, Tom Holland is a perfect Peter Parker, but I felt like Liz's storyline didn't quite wrap up nicely. Spoilers To me, it bothered me because Peter basically ruins her life. Throughout the entire film Liz is a kind person who keeps giving Peter a second chance, and he continuously ditches her and lets her down and (unbeknownst to her) get her dad arrested, effectively turning her entire family life upside down. There were so many interesting ways they could have wrapped it up, especially if it had been revealed to her that her dad was the vulture, that would have really played up the family man aspect of Toomes. What we got was a girl that got a lot of shit dumped on her with no explanation, who is then sent away, presumably never to see any of her friends or her old life again, and all Peter can say is a rushed "sorry" in the hallway. It seemed to me that Peter didn't even learn from the experience. There wasn't even some quirky gift to her to make up for it. I think Peter taking responsibility for what happened to Liz would have made for excellent character progression for him, as well as wrapping up his relationship with Liz, but the movie just didn't do that
Timothy Choi i think they'll revisit liz's character when peter is older and wiser. i think the "great power, great responsibility" thing is slowly becoming a theme so that at some point when he realizes the power he has and the destruction he can, and has, caused, then he will truly be able to apologize and mean it. i don't think that right now he truly understands that it was his fault.
meme trash While I hope they do as well, in the film Peter's apology to Liz is kind of brushed off and we're thrust into the sequence with Happy and Tony offering him a place in the Avengers, and him subsequently turning them down, and the audience is presented this moment as though it's supposed to be Peter's defining moment as a mature superhero. While I think him recognizing he's not ready is a really great way to show his progression, I think him dealing with the pain he caused Liz should also have been part of his development, especially as a way to convince the audience he cares more about the people of New York than his superhero identity
meme trash I think they got the story spot on because peter is only 15 he will make dumb mistakes without realising it and Liz is on the receiving end sadly but I think as Peter grows up he will realise and deeply apologize to her and wont make those mistakes again he is having the whole of new York on his shoulders and I think he is putting that ahead of their relationship which I don't find anything wrong with just my opinion not hating on you
I feel like he'll start to realise all the mistakes he made with Liz in the next movie with the next love interest. I mean he's a kid here, he might not have really understood that he really truly hurt her
What do you think about Michelle? The media kept mentioning Zendaya and her part in this film which makes me automatically assuming that she's going to play the part of Peter's love interest. (My own fault, I guess.) That's why I'm confused to found out that the one Peter has a crush on isn't Zendaya's character. I guess she's set up to be Peter's partner-in-crime-slash-love-interest in the future. Oh by the way, thanks to Kristen Dunst, I'm not really fond of Mary Jane. So knowing that Michelle =/= Mary Jane and the scene where she said her nickname is MJ was just a nod to Mary Jane is kinda a huge relieve for me. (I know, this is weird.)
Toluwani Osibamowo I agree that it's really misleading. Her character probably would become a significant one in future films, but not in this one. So I don't like their decisions to promote the heck out of her when in reality in this film there was almost nothing going on for her. Just some random encounter and banter with Peter.
Milbox R Well, Michelle is in the poster in a bigger size than Aunt May and I find that odd after knowing how little her part in the film is. Hahaha. Saying that though, I do like Zendaya so I hope they'll explore more about her character in future films.
nakaharaindria I think the whole 'media mentioning Zendaya alot' thing might be more that she's on a long term contract with Disney so Marvel can pull her for promo/media appearances much easier, rather than any specific story thing. She's also one of the semi-high profile ones on the younger cast.
ForeverFeel1ng I didn't know that she's a high-profile actress because I only know her as a child-star from Disney (in which I didn't actually watch the series she was in but my brother did and that was how I know a little bit about her). I didn't know that she got such a big fanbase and following on social media too. Hahaha. But now I know. I still think it's a misleading move, but I do see why they decided to do that. Still, I quite like her (from what I saw in the film and from the various interviews I watched) so I hope there will be significantly more of her character in the future.
i loved spiderman so much, i thought the movie was perfect. my one critiscism was Zendayas character and the use of her so much in the trailers and interviews. like if you've seen the film you know michelle isn't really an important character or vital to the story at all. yet she was in like every trailer and interview promoting the movie. so blatantly they were using zendayas fame and face to catch peoples attention, which i just think is a bit shady and frustrating, but whatever, thats advertising/business. don't get me wrong i think Zendaya is amazing and perhaps they were using homecoming to set her up for a bigger role in the next spidey movie. its just that like a new movie poster was released and zendaya was in the center of it (no ned or lis to be seen) and she was bigger than aunt may
i totally agree with trailer problems. it was definitely a bigger issue for me because i work at a movie theatre so i was constantly hearing it and seeing it for hours multiple days a week. i have also seen it twice and left a little disappointed but i think its because i was so eager cause ive loved spiderman since i was little. i hope i enjoy it more the third time i watch it
It seems to me that most of the film's missteps come simply from having to get its messages and themes across to a general audience, almost seeming at times as if the director were walking out himself and saying to you 'What I intended HERE is for everyone to realize-' It's annoying if you're somebody who can extrapolate those messages from the film without goading, but it's overall understandable. I basically agreed with you completely on this, Jack. The reason why I enjoyed this film so much is because it just brought me such a sense of nerdy joy like I hadn't really felt since The Avengers-it reminded me why I loved superheroes so much.
It's not an audience member's fault for watching a trailer, it's marketing's fault for spoiling what would be a very tense moment if you didn't know the resolution. The trailers would have been just as good without so much iron man/Tony in it. They could have just used shots of the suit, and the scene in the car. Even just a clip of him at the party while he's saving peter.
Even though that Tony/Peter scene after the boat was in the trailer i still felt the effect because of the context of everything that had happened beforehand in terms of the character building and how Peter is portrayed up until that point, the fact he wants to prove himself aswell as thinking he's ready for anything; it hits him at that moment that he really screwed up and the seriousness of what happened, so the point of the scene and the impact wasnt lost for me at all. Tom Holland nails the roll; we get a proper insight into his thought process and it doesn't trivialise being a teenager to the point where its cringy. Definitely watching again. Probably today. Most likely today. Just booked it online. Its happening today.
I stopped watching trailers for superhero movies that I really care about a few years ago. They never know how to make good engaging trailers anymore. BTW, I agree with everything that you said.
See, this is why I love your reviews, Jack! I was telling EVERYONE about how fantastic the car scene was because of the red light/green light aspect, and everyone was like "What? I didn't notice that!". So happy to hear you saw it and loved it too!!
That thing about trailers and spoilers is so true!!!! My thoughts exactly. Which is why I do my best to avoid trailers. But they shove it down your throat in the theaters! Like I have to hold my ears and hum!!
Hoo boy, i remember watching this video when it came out and i was like, nah, i don't care about the MCU enough to go watch Homecoming, so i didn't care about spoilers. fast forward to November, my friend really wanted me to see it, so i did. i'd forgotten most of your criticisms here so it didn't really spoil it for me, but man i can't believe how many of the little details i've missed! i do agree, the scene that revealed Vulture is Liz's dad was one of the best sequences in the film (it's just... well-written), but i didn't notice the traffic light thing, for instance. and i'm so glad i never saw any of the trailers (and forgot the stuff you said in this video) because the ferry scene _was_ an intense experience for me. you put it into words - yeah, he's just a little boy biting off more than he could chew, and the ferry scene was one of those ones that emphasised that. i actually wrote a mini-review about this film too (of course, not with the level of attention as you had towards the whole of the film), and in it i also criticised the film for not letting the emotional conflict breathe. that was my main gripe with the film by the way; the film has told us that this Spidey is just a kid but they haven't shown us enough the weight of his experiences. i think they didn't want to hinder the fun tones of the film too much with those heavier themes.
your oscorp theory fucked my life over in the best way possible. I love your passion for Spiderman, as a Spiderman super fan myself (first ever comics, and I watched the animated series avidly as a kid) I'm glad I subscribed to someone who shares the same love, it was an unexpected bonus!
Kasai the Fire Mage I think they only used the intials to basically say that she will be at the same compacted as mj. if that makes sense. I do believe she is the mcu version of Mary Jane with out being Mary jane?😅
Kasai the Fire Mage Feige did say she's not Mary Jane and the MJ initial thingy was just a nod to the character Mary Jane. He said that Michelle wasn't based on anyone in the comic, so she's a totally new character created for MCU. :D
I really like your movie reviews. They're so insightful and entertaining and your comments are very interesting and carefully thought out. Really appreciate these videos!
I love this type of reviews. Nothing flashy, with a number out of 10 at the end, just a person in front of a camera talking just as passionately as you would.
i really really loved the white/absence of noise parts, especially on the beach and then the timing of when it cuts back to normal sound was just perfect to me. i thought that the half mask half face bit and tony stark voice over was a bit cheesy and unnecessary?? but that scene as a whole was really good and i agree that it should have had more time to breathe and for the audience to really feel the emotion that they should be feeling in that moment. i've been so looking forward to hearing your opinion and i could listen it you talk about films all day like this so please please keep making more because i really do enjoy them
I love watching your reviews. When I watch films, I just see the tip of the iceberg, the obvious stuff but it seems like when you watch films, you notice so much more; the symbolism and metaphors, the references to other films and the rest of the MCU and the big picture like the Stark tower being sold, etc. I don't know, your reviews just open my eyes to so much that I wouldn't have seen unless I tried to dissect the film. It makes the films you talk about so much cooler.
I also really love that you covered the score of the film. none of the other reviews I've seen have done that and I feel like it added a lot of emotional backing to it!
Well done for confessing your Amazing Spider-man 2 review being "A little bit blind". I like to hear a film makers take on films and love your perspective in particular, that review however rocked the boat for me a few years ago. It takes something to confront your mistakes, can't wait to hear more reviews in the future!
That subtle way of leaving almost unnoticeable references to future scenes or characters, like the Miles Morales one you mentioned, is Marvel's most mindblowing hability. And it's consistent throughout the whole Phase 4, that ends with SpiderMan: Far From Home. It's very common to be watching one of their movies and realise you have already heard a name before or that certain place or object seams familiar. In Captain Marvel, Carol Danvers becomes best friends with a woman who has a little daughter. That same daughter will eventually grow up to become a S.W.O.R.D agent and confront Wanda in WandaVision. When you first see her, her last name rings a bell, and makes you want to explode of excitement and tell everyone that you know who she is. Connecting the universe in such a clever way is a form of assuring the viewer/fan feels a part of a story, a process that develops as the fan continues to watch the movies and connect the references.
I'd love to hear you just talk about more films - old or new, it's just really lovely to experience a film through your eyes and I think you're teaching in a very endearing but accessible way ☺️
I absolutely adored the film (seen it four times already by now), but I gotta agree with you on letting the dramatic moments breath a bit more, it was what bothered me too, especially about the rubble scene. I've watched quite a few reviews on this, and so far you're the only one who has pointed it out, so kudos for that! (and for not getting hang up on the MJ reveal, good lord am I tired of hearing about that :,,,D)
I finally saw the movie and had to watch your review, jack... I agree that Tom Holland captures Peter Parker really well, he's the spider-man I think we've all been waiting for. I REALLY liked the idea of Peter documenting everything at the beginning of the film with his phone camera, I think it definitely was an awesome way to remind us like "hey, he was in captain america: civil war, here's a recap with a nice little bow on top" and it kind of tied in the photography aspects of previous Peter Parker depictions as well. The only thing is I wish they would've tied that in throughout the whole film, or at least at the end I think. After he stopped recording at the beginning, he didn't ever take any pictures or video again through the whole film, and I was really hoping they would've done that.. also I was really worried they were going to have someone step in and save him in more than just the ferry scene, and I'm honestly relieved they didn't do that.. I've only seen the film once so far. I'll probably be back here once I see it a second time, ha.
Yes! All my thoughts AND THEN SOME put so eloquently, love this review, keep up the good work Jack! I also missed the emotional connection I generally have with Spider-Man as a character, but I think it's only because they didn't include the death of Uncle Ben (they eluded to it but never directly dealt with it like in previous movies) if they had added it I think it would have really strengthened Tony's comments when he spoke about his (Tony's) father and how his father hadn't complimented him etc. Will be really interesting to see what they do with his back story though.
I just watched The Amazing Spider-Man after watching Homecoming (I'm a HUGE Spider-Man fan and do tend to watched the movies every two weeks or so) and I totally agree with eveything you just said about the movies. Tom Holland brings a more refreshing feel to the movies and it's nice to see him grow in the movie. In the others you see Peter get bitten then Design the suit, then he's all of a sudden the marvel character. But in this movie you already know the story and you actually see him struggle with the fact that's he's got this power and responsibility now, but you also see him being really excited about it. You see him messaging Tony Stark asking what he could do next, you saw him tell his best friend that he knew all the avengers and that he met them and fought with them. In terms of a story you really get to grow with character from him becoming a school kid and then slowly grow into a hero and learn all these new things as well as still being a school kid and I liked the way Sony equally showed both sides of him, rather than you see him in the school corridor and you have to assume he's nerdy school kid because of his glasses and then in a quick change of clothes he's Spider-Man. I liked the progression of the movie and how you saw the character develop. Great review! I agree with eveything you said! I can't wait to see it again!
THIS IS SUCH A GOOD REVIEW. i get nervous to watch or read reviews of this movie because i love it sO much. But this made me love it more honestly. to listen to someone who loves this character and this movie talk about the clever things and the sentimental things is great.
I think this is definitely my favourite Spiderman film (although I haven't really watched Tobey's fully), I've really enjoyed others, but this is the first one where I really want to see it again, and i've felt really invested in it. for me it feels refreshing, like you said it doesn't have the cliche things like the swinging from the skyscrapers, and instead follows the story of this excited young lad thrown into a crazy world and him dealing with that after, alongside the usual teen issues. I love Tom so much as Spiderman too he plays it so well
I genuinely felt I was having a conversation with you about the film in this video hah! You're thinking a lot along the same lines as me but with a more experienced eye for the details. I'm really curious about the easter eggs and things you mentioned too and going to look that all up after. My only comment re the bad dad situation is that to me even though it was a shock to begin with, it did feel too similar to the last Spider-man series where Mary-Jane's dad was anti-Spiderman and winds up getting hurt because of it in the end. Was so glad there was much happier ending for Keaton in this film though.
I agree completely with your comments regarding the rubble scene. I actually said the same thing to my sister after I took her to see it (I'd already seen it before I went with her). The scene felt too short. It was like he was under the rubble and then was like "Oh well now I'm not anymore." He is a just a boy, no matter how brave Spider-Man is, in that moment it was Peter Parker's desperation showing through. I feel that even if the scene went on for just 45-60sec longer it would have been adequate. I know 60sec is long in a film scene, but it really needed it. The scene didn't have enough weight (pardon the pun) as it should have. Overall, though, it is definitely top 2 favourite films of all time for me.
I agree about the emotional scenes needing to breathe. I felt as it was such a light film and marvel often uses jokes to undercut emotional scenes, that they did a similar thing in this film and were afraid to show too much genuine emotion. Wonder Woman is an example of a film that doesn't undercut or shy away from the emotion. I think a bit longer in the rock scene without Tony's voice over, really would have hit me hard because what I did get the chance to absorb was fantastic.
Lmao when you were talking about the prediction about who the avengers tower was being sold to, I clicked and just shouted "OSCORP" at my screen as you said it!!
I didn't see the trailers and so the "if you cared you'd be here scene" was absolutely amazing to me. I also really loved the post-credits Captain America scene. To be in a theatre full of people who'd waited past the credits was a great experience. The Civil War airport battle, peter parker version was also a great addition to the film.
I WISH I hadn't watched the trailers because all of those 'reveal' moments were SO GOOD! But I knew they were coming! Except for Liz's dad - I and several others gasped. I adored what they did with the theme song, it had me pulled straight into the hysteric excitement I normally get at the beginning of Marvel films. I thought the aesthetics of the suit were gorgeous, loved the more human, street level aspect of it - some of the emotional elements were made too obvious at times but it wasn't drastic. I actually cried a little bit when he was trapped under the rubble because, as you said, in that moment he's just a little kid and you are just desperate to help - making they way he himself gets out of it even better. I loved it and definitely want to see it again.
I actively avoided trailers for this film to the point where I was in the theatre for wonder woman and closed my eyes plugged my ears and hummed to myself when the spiderman trailer came on because I didn't want to be spoiled. I watched the trailers after seeing the movie and wow. Spoilers indeed. After hearing you talk about how it affected the your perception and knowing how things played out I'm SO GLAD I did. Highly recommend you do it for the next one.
I didn't watch any trailers. Mostly by accident. (I mean, I saw a few clips here and there, but that's it.) And the scenes you mentioned that were spoiled by the trailers? Yeah, they were clearly much more effective for me than for most of the people that I spoke to about the film.
I always enjoyed the Spider-man movies but it was never something that I was super passionate about it, but wow this movie was amazing! I loved hearing your predictions, and thoughts because, as a casual fan, it's something that didn't come to mind.
I think the issue with Aunt May in Homecoming is the lack of a Uncle-Ben-Dying backstory. Trust me, I hate the idea of a third film giving us the Spiderman origin story more than anyone, but it does paint Aunt May in a more sympathetic light. In Sam Raimi's films, she has this sort of bereaved widow aspect to her character. Peter needed to care for her and protect and often failed to. Plus the shared grief between Peter and May really established their relationship well. But in Homecoming all we get is Peter saying "after all Aunt May has been through." No grief or sympathy or emotional connection. Just a thought. Secondly, I deeply miss Danny Elfman's score from the first three films. I loved the homage to the original Spiderman theme but it lacked that epic feeling Elfman's score added to the big moments in Raimi's films. That is all. Great video as always Jack.
they also had The Tinkerer in the film as well! I thought of that when you were talking about how Marvel did such a good job seamlessly and casually setting the universe up in this movie what with all the people Peter meets like The Shocker, Scorpion, and The Prowler.
My personal favorite part of this version of Spiderman was how much of an actual teenager he was. The 'vlog' bit at the beginning was the perfect reminder of his age, and how he dealt with emotional upheaval and moral decisions (the notes he leaves behind) were dealt with better than they had been in the other movies. You can see the 16 year old kid just trying to do his best very obviously, but the throw away moments were what made this character great for me.
I'm really liking the whole movie review thing you're doing at the moment with a bit more consistency and structure I think it would be a cool series for you
I totally agree with you! I've "accidentally" watched most of the trailers and I found myself not surprised at all by scene that should've surprised me! I wish you talked about the vlog part at the beginning of the movie I thought it was a nice introduction to Spidey and the cameo of Gwyneth Paltrow, it was a really nice surprise!
As soon as that twist was revealed, I just thought Crazy Stupid Love, it's so similar and they are both films where you aren't expecting any twist at all so it's genius! Absolutely love that movie, such a hilarious twist!
I agree with what you said about setting things up, and I'd love to see a video about that. I completely agree that it wasn't clunky and annoying, they all felt smooth and natural.
I didn't pay attention to the trailers too much and so I didn't know that he was actually there in the "if you cared scene" and yeah. It was good. Very emotional
I only watched the first teaser and avoided all trailers until after I saw the movie. I'm so glad I did that because the ferry scene had me on the edge of my seat and I was SURE Peter was gonna fail and it'd become a huge weight on his conscience and when Tony Stark was revealed to be in the suit it was such an "oh shit" moment. I think that I would have enjoyed those scenes much less if I had seen it coming
It was one of my favourite movies I've seen this year. Spider-Man is just one of those movies that really connects with me and I just felt so comfortable watching it all.
I DIDNT EVEN THINK ABOUT OSCORP POSSIBLY MOVING INTO THE OLD TOWER I WAS JUST A NOSTALGIC MESS MISSING HARRY AND THE OSBORNS. I LITERALLY PAUSED THIS VIDEO, SCREAMED, AND TEARED UP. !!! also I get what you're saying about the trailers kind of ruining some bits, that's why I never watch trailers until after I've seen the film. it's just something I've always done. I go into movies pretty much blind. leaves for a much more enjoyable movie watching experience. the tony stark voiceover in the rubble scene was a bit much too, definitely didn't need it but I get why it's there. brilliant review.
The first 5 minutes after the marvel logo of Peter vlogging Civil War is what sold me on Tom Holland as Spiderman completely XD I didn't expect to love this movie as much as I did, because Spiderman has always been my favourite hero in comics but not on film, now he's my favourite on film too and I'm so happy
THE RED LIGHT ON THE VULTURE'S FACE IN THE CAR!!! YES. I loved that scene because it portrays darkness and anger and fear, while still having normal lights on Peter.
I heard the trailer was spoiler city so I avoided it at all costs. I even brought earplugs to the movie theater when I went to see other films so that I could more effectively block out the trailer's audio. So going in with no prior knowledge, the ferry scene was quite suspenseful. When Iron Man showed up saying "Hey there SPIDER-MAN," his tone of his voice was so furious and patronizing, and his presence so surprising, that I was kind of terrified to see him even though he's not truly an antagonist. Considering Peter's position I'm sure he would have experienced that same shock and fear, which made the scene very effective. Then the moment we find out he was actually in the suit, that scared the shit out of me! I was so surprised and intimidated! I think it was excellently done, and if I'd seen it in the trailer, I wouldn't have had that experience. So the moral of the story is always bring ear plugs to the movie theater.
I really love how Tony was a paternal figure in the movie, we really see that he's working on himself and trying to be better which I love because I love Tony's character and some people give him so much hate.
when Michael Keaton opened the door at liz's house there was an audible gasp in the theater and it was amazing. i am with you though about the trailers being too revealing because i wish there had been more moments like finding out vulture was liz's dad.
I agree with what you said about the trailers. It was irritating that I couldn't have a real reaction to the outcome of the ferry scene because I already knew what would happen. But can you blame me for watching them over and over? I was so excited. I think Marvel should find a better formula for creating trailers
I thought the reason they had the Ferris Bueller bit was because the final scene (after the credits) of Deadpool recreated the ending of Ferris Bueller. I liked that it strung that through as a bit of continuity.
I was so pleased with Spider-Man Homecoming because I honestly thought they weren't going to get it right, I thought they were using RDJ for pure promo and I thought it was going to be a remake of the swinging through the buildings all over again. I'm SO happy they proved me wrong and I walked out with a smile on my face. Got a bit of a crush on Tom Holland now too but my boyfriends cool with it
The Oscorp thing I didn't even consider, that would be so sick if they use that to bring that in. This movie was so good for the fans and dropping all those hints and for future characters was amazing.
Also the school principal is related to one of captain america's team in tfa as in the scene where he allows peter to remain in midtown high you see a picture in a frame of cap with bucky and his team taking down hydra in the 40s also there is a theory flying around that michelle jones is related to one of cap's team as one of them also have the surname jones and that michelle is spying on peter (remember when she said "I'm very observant") so I can't wait to see if that is true or not just a lil more easter eggs that I've seen floating around on youtube and stan twitter :)
The "if u cared you'd be here" scene was 100% better having not seen the trailers. It actually jolted me and made me appreciate it even more.
ASMR Flutter Same. My jaw dropped, and it added so much to the relationship between Tony and Peter.
It was perfect, because it showed that he does care, all while doing it in a ver Tony Stark way
i agree!! choosing not to watch the trailers seems to have paid off because that scene was a huge aspect to the film to me and a real heavy moment
I feel you! so was Iron Man coming to save the day. I hadn't seen a single frame of the movie before actually going to watch it and it made for incredible surprises for me.
!!!!! yes, i didn't see a lot of content before watching the movie, and i nearly shrieked
it hit me as well, but i saw the trailers
When the villain's real identity was revealed I legit loudly gasped in the cinema because the movie was so laid back and happy-go-lucky that I almost forgot that I was watching a superhero movie and I was not prepared for that plot twist tbh
Absolutely I felt the same way!! Brilliant
Cher Rendon omg you look so pretty :o
I'm sorry, my gay is showing, I will back off :D
When that happened, the entire theater was deathly silent...until someone behind us let out a HUGE sitcom-style gasp that I felt that perfectly described our collective reactions perfectly. Just one incredibly loud intake of breath.
Legit the reveal made me grab my friend's arm whispering "ohhhhh crap nooooooo" multiple times
i'm all for spiderman homecoming analysis but also i need this video to be like twenty minutes longer because this is SO GOOD
italy morales Look up visual beef the Spiderman homecoming episode. It's on Tim.E.Kishs channel I think. It's like an hour
I absolutely love that they had that moment where peter is having a breakdown under the rubble. They never show the hero struggling like that. Also the fact that everybody seems to forget that teenagers are way more likely to have depression or anxiety without knowing it and, as a fellow teen, being stuck like that would definitely send a 15 year old into a panic attack or at least some crying and hyperventilating. Seriously, he's a sophomore and is stuck under a pile of rubble and is too tired and weak to get out... being stuck because you're weak is literally every teens fear. And the sobbing and calling for help was a really good touch... honestly I'd probably have a full on melt down and give up, but the fact that he didn't helps his story really progress.
You're totally right and expressed my thoughts on this scene better than I could myself. It was such an intense, heart-gripping moment, thanks to the lack of background music, cold dark colors and Holland's acting skills... I actually felt a ball form in my throat at one point !
During that scene I was sobbing and having a mental breakdown with/for him 😂
Exactly! I remember having a very similar thing happen to me in real life. Basically, I tripped and over and hurt myself in a forest (obviously I wasn't covered in rubble) but I had like a mini panic attack where I thought I'd never get out of the forest and that I'd be left there. I called for help and then calmed down after a second and realized hang on a second, I'm fine and I just got up and walked out of the forest. Yes, I was hurt but it was just a graze and it amazes me to this day that such a minor thing made me panic so much. (I do not have panic attacks often. In fact, I have probably only had 4/5 throughout my life)
I loved the end credit scene with captain america 😂😂
That was such a wonderful troll
Danah Banajah other people were groaning but I was just grinning because I love vintage Cap
Danah Banajah Basically we got rickrolled minus the copyright infringement XD
I was the only one in the theatre that stayed long enough to see it. 100% worth it haha
Hey, Marvel has us all well trained. Don't act like you didn't stay until the very end of the credits of Wonder Woman, just out of habit!
My main critique was that the love interest felt really under developed, like Liz wasn't really a full character other than 'pretty, nice to peter.' It had a lot of good things going for it, but I did feel like none of the women were written that well
I felt like they played it that way because Peter is a kid and doesn't know what love is and all. He wasn't mature enough to know what it'd be like to have a girlfriend. I feel like in the next movie he'll realise what it's like with his next love interest.
Lizard819 i noticed that too, i felt like the women in the film were very one-dimensional (zendaya is the quirky, edgy loner, liz is the nice, pretty girl, and aunt may is the fun aunt). i would've liked it if they spent a little more time opening up their personalities so that we could like them and empathize with them more
I wasn't a huge fan of Liz's character either, even though she and her relationship with Peter were pretty realistic. She just felt a bit too... bland :p
Lizard819 i agree i feel like zendayas character had a bit more substance and i appreciated that liz wasnt the only important female character in Peters life since she was the love interest, however, to your point, i do agree that they were both underdeveloped and i didnt feel a lot of chemistry if any between liz and peter.
Commander Shepard but i feel like the movie does so much in the way of depicting peters life as peter instead of just spiderman that it seems odd and frankly shallow to simply tack on this person who is supposed to play a meaningful role in peters life
"Tom holland is amazing" YES HE IS PRECIOUS AND OLAYS SPIDER MAN SO SO SO WELL
I thought the same with the tony stark voiceover in the scene were he is trying to get up. Like, we understand what he is feeling. Do you really need to shove it down our throats like that?, the trailers spoil all the action and most of the jokes. Never watching a marvel trailer again
And at first i was worried about the vulture being the villain because i thought it could be a little boring. But the fact that they built him with the ultron/ alien parts was just SO clever, i don't know if that is what happens in the comics but it was such a relief that the villains backstory was carefully planned and his motivations were clear, i don't know but for me is one of the best villains in the mcu
uh loco actually, Sony was in charge of marketing, so blame Sony not marvel
I read the Aunt May relationship as her also trying to work out who she is, and having to raise a teenager from a young age that she maybe wasn't prepared for. I liked the Aunt May, it added a bit of complexity and tension to the relationship
I always thought Toby McGuire was a great Spider-man, not really a true Peter Parker to the comics but while Andrew Garfield was closer to the comics Peter Parker, he was a lacking Spider-man even after a couple movies. Tom Holland was like a wholesome amount of both, not totally like either in the comics but with enough likability/youth to still have the same feeling, or the feeling that he WILL be, which is the most important part since it's, at it's core, an origin story still. And his scene in the rumble almost made me cry (and I never cry) because it felt so real, so major props to the actor.
And the setting of it being in Queens and ACTUALLY HAVING A DIVERSE CAST at the school was the best part imo. Like, yeah, he's got a hilarious friend who happens to be Asian and yeah his club is made of a cute girl he's got a crush on that happens to be black and a sassy girl who brings up great points about the social climate of America who happens to be mixed...but beyond the moments like Michelle's super brief Washington monument comment (which was brilliant btw), it was just accepted. Liz, as the object of affection, was never exoticized (and she was smart and capable! not just eye candy!) and no one made an Asian nerd joke (because everyone at the school's a nerd, even Flash, who happens to be played by a Guatemalan-American actor). They were just accurate representations of kids in America. I wanted to applaud the casting director when her name came up in the credits, haha, because it was just such a great, diverse breath of fresh air that, for what seems like the first time in Hollywood, felt like...a real high school group. Also I was totally in Academic Decathlon irl in high school so when they used the actual, legit logo of AcDc (what us cool kids called it lol) I was cracking up way harder than I needed to.
I thought the movie as a whole was just...fun. It was a perfect summer movie. And I actually liked the cheeky "my friend's call me MJ" at the end, even if was super cheesy. It was one of those movies that you know what they're gonna do (except the Vulture reveal jfc that was good) but you don't hate them for it because you're still having fun.
The entire theatre gasped audibly, and some swore, when Keaton opened the door. I was included in the moment, of course. A stellar moment, and very well presented.
-I feel weird about Mary Jane, too. I am used to hating the living daylights out of her, and I don't want to like her. I know her as a bimbo who's not worthy of Peter, and I'd like it to remain that way? It's weird.-
Holland's scene under the rumble disturbed me. I just wanted to shut my ears, because I felt incredibly strongly for him, the panic he was experiencing. Heavy scene, and perfectly executed. It was one of the best Marvel movies I've seen in some years, along with Logan.
Stephanie Louise the movie was okay
Stephanie Louise its not Mary jane
Oh thank God, then.
YES, the rubble scene was so intense I wasn't expecting it!!
MJ was just a joke lol. Zendaya plays Michelle Jones not Mary Jane
could you possibly do a review for Baby Driver? you always manage to put my thoughts into words (like with this review and especially your Wonder Woman review) and i'd love to see what your director's brain thought of it
I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE - DO IT JACK
melomaniac yes please would love to hear what Jack has to say about it !
melomaniac THIS PLEASE
yesssssss
would also love to see this
When it was revealed that he was Liz's dad my friend and I turned to each other, our jaws basically on the ground lol. It was such a great reveal.
Two uploads back to back I'm ready
Sarcastic Brit plus Dunkirk soon. we're spoilt
Daniel Mongan bless
I think this Spider-Man film is the result of learning from the other films. We don't need a dramatic origin story of the death of Uncle Ben. We knew we needed the snarky comments and the light hearted feel of Spider-Man. My one criticism is the lack of anguish from Peter Parker. The one common theme in the comics is Peter's loneliness even though he masks it well. He can't tell his friends that he is Spiderman in the comics out of fear of their safety. Tom Holland is a fantastic Spider-Man, hands down the best version we have seen so far in a live action film. However I just hope that the next film brings a bit more dimension to his character. I think for me we were missing a 'why' for what he does.
Somehow I managed to avoid watching any trailers for this Spiderman film, and I was actually so thrilled all the way through:))
ASMR Flutter same!
one of my favourite bits of Keaton's Vulture is that he is never called the Vulture (apart from Peter's note to Happy) and he ever mocks the guy calling himself the shocker, it's awesome, grounds it a little more.
My parents went and saw it and my dad hated it he said it was boring and that Michael Keaton was shit and I remembered that his favourite movie is suicide squad
No offense towards your family, but is your dad... alright... in the head?
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I thought the appearance of Donald Glover was a nod to the controversy that he would play Spiderman in the Amazing series. Didn't notice the Miles thing tho... so that's neat :D
I don't think Marisa Tomei was given enough screen time to give the warmth that the other May's did
I enjoyed Spider-Man Homecoming, but I didn't think it was as good as people are saying it is. I enjoyed all of the performances, Tom Holland is a perfect Peter Parker, but I felt like Liz's storyline didn't quite wrap up nicely.
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To me, it bothered me because Peter basically ruins her life. Throughout the entire film Liz is a kind person who keeps giving Peter a second chance, and he continuously ditches her and lets her down and (unbeknownst to her) get her dad arrested, effectively turning her entire family life upside down. There were so many interesting ways they could have wrapped it up, especially if it had been revealed to her that her dad was the vulture, that would have really played up the family man aspect of Toomes. What we got was a girl that got a lot of shit dumped on her with no explanation, who is then sent away, presumably never to see any of her friends or her old life again, and all Peter can say is a rushed "sorry" in the hallway. It seemed to me that Peter didn't even learn from the experience. There wasn't even some quirky gift to her to make up for it. I think Peter taking responsibility for what happened to Liz would have made for excellent character progression for him, as well as wrapping up his relationship with Liz, but the movie just didn't do that
Timothy Choi i think they'll revisit liz's character when peter is older and wiser. i think the "great power, great responsibility" thing is slowly becoming a theme so that at some point when he realizes the power he has and the destruction he can, and has, caused, then he will truly be able to apologize and mean it. i don't think that right now he truly understands that it was his fault.
meme trash While I hope they do as well, in the film Peter's apology to Liz is kind of brushed off and we're thrust into the sequence with Happy and Tony offering him a place in the Avengers, and him subsequently turning them down, and the audience is presented this moment as though it's supposed to be Peter's defining moment as a mature superhero. While I think him recognizing he's not ready is a really great way to show his progression, I think him dealing with the pain he caused Liz should also have been part of his development, especially as a way to convince the audience he cares more about the people of New York than his superhero identity
Timothy Choi Welcome to the peter Parker dilemma where even though he does the right thing someone's life will inevitably be ruined
meme trash I think they got the story spot on because peter is only 15 he will make dumb mistakes without realising it and Liz is on the receiving end sadly but I think as Peter grows up he will realise and deeply apologize to her and wont make those mistakes again he is having the whole of new York on his shoulders and I think he is putting that ahead of their relationship which I don't find anything wrong with just my opinion not hating on you
I feel like he'll start to realise all the mistakes he made with Liz in the next movie with the next love interest. I mean he's a kid here, he might not have really understood that he really truly hurt her
I felt so tense watching the car scene, an amazing piece of cinema
Ellice Hard to find those in films in general, but that was an epic piece of filmmaking.
two reviews in two days?? a miracle
I still haven't seen the film, but I have to watch all of your videos.
Daphne Bailey You play a dangerous game, rebel
The whole time watching this I've been nodding and agreeing with you... until I realised I'm alone, and I'm just nodding to a screen 😂
What do you think about Michelle? The media kept mentioning Zendaya and her part in this film which makes me automatically assuming that she's going to play the part of Peter's love interest. (My own fault, I guess.) That's why I'm confused to found out that the one Peter has a crush on isn't Zendaya's character.
I guess she's set up to be Peter's partner-in-crime-slash-love-interest in the future.
Oh by the way, thanks to Kristen Dunst, I'm not really fond of Mary Jane. So knowing that Michelle =/= Mary Jane and the scene where she said her nickname is MJ was just a nod to Mary Jane is kinda a huge relieve for me. (I know, this is weird.)
Toluwani Osibamowo I agree that it's really misleading. Her character probably would become a significant one in future films, but not in this one. So I don't like their decisions to promote the heck out of her when in reality in this film there was almost nothing going on for her. Just some random encounter and banter with Peter.
nakaharaindria agreed its like putting flash thompson on the poster its just odd
Milbox R Well, Michelle is in the poster in a bigger size than Aunt May and I find that odd after knowing how little her part in the film is. Hahaha. Saying that though, I do like Zendaya so I hope they'll explore more about her character in future films.
nakaharaindria I think the whole 'media mentioning Zendaya alot' thing might be more that she's on a long term contract with Disney so Marvel can pull her for promo/media appearances much easier, rather than any specific story thing.
She's also one of the semi-high profile ones on the younger cast.
ForeverFeel1ng I didn't know that she's a high-profile actress because I only know her as a child-star from Disney (in which I didn't actually watch the series she was in but my brother did and that was how I know a little bit about her). I didn't know that she got such a big fanbase and following on social media too. Hahaha. But now I know.
I still think it's a misleading move, but I do see why they decided to do that. Still, I quite like her (from what I saw in the film and from the various interviews I watched) so I hope there will be significantly more of her character in the future.
i loved spiderman so much, i thought the movie was perfect. my one critiscism was Zendayas character and the use of her so much in the trailers and interviews. like if you've seen the film you know michelle isn't really an important character or vital to the story at all. yet she was in like every trailer and interview promoting the movie. so blatantly they were using zendayas fame and face to catch peoples attention, which i just think is a bit shady and frustrating, but whatever, thats advertising/business. don't get me wrong i think Zendaya is amazing and perhaps they were using homecoming to set her up for a bigger role in the next spidey movie. its just that like a new movie poster was released and zendaya was in the center of it (no ned or lis to be seen) and she was bigger than aunt may
what i'm getting from this video is that i'm VERY glad that i didn't watch the trailers before the movie haha
i totally agree with trailer problems. it was definitely a bigger issue for me because i work at a movie theatre so i was constantly hearing it and seeing it for hours multiple days a week. i have also seen it twice and left a little disappointed but i think its because i was so eager cause ive loved spiderman since i was little. i hope i enjoy it more the third time i watch it
OH MAN THAT'S RIGHT, THE VULTURE THEME IS THE MINOR KEY VERSION OF THE AVENGERS THEME. NICE EARS DOM
It seems to me that most of the film's missteps come simply from having to get its messages and themes across to a general audience, almost seeming at times as if the director were walking out himself and saying to you 'What I intended HERE is for everyone to realize-' It's annoying if you're somebody who can extrapolate those messages from the film without goading, but it's overall understandable.
I basically agreed with you completely on this, Jack. The reason why I enjoyed this film so much is because it just brought me such a sense of nerdy joy like I hadn't really felt since The Avengers-it reminded me why I loved superheroes so much.
It's not an audience member's fault for watching a trailer, it's marketing's fault for spoiling what would be a very tense moment if you didn't know the resolution. The trailers would have been just as good without so much iron man/Tony in it. They could have just used shots of the suit, and the scene in the car. Even just a clip of him at the party while he's saving peter.
Even though that Tony/Peter scene after the boat was in the trailer i still felt the effect because of the context of everything that had happened beforehand in terms of the character building and how Peter is portrayed up until that point, the fact he wants to prove himself aswell as thinking he's ready for anything; it hits him at that moment that he really screwed up and the seriousness of what happened, so the point of the scene and the impact wasnt lost for me at all. Tom Holland nails the roll; we get a proper insight into his thought process and it doesn't trivialise being a teenager to the point where its cringy. Definitely watching again. Probably today.
Most likely today.
Just booked it online. Its happening today.
I stopped watching trailers for superhero movies that I really care about a few years ago. They never know how to make good engaging trailers anymore.
BTW, I agree with everything that you said.
Damnit Jack get out of my head! How can it be that I agree 100% with this? Literally everything I was thinking in the cinema!
My entire theater gasped and started whispering after vulture revealed himself. Amazing moment.
this review is so accurate
See, this is why I love your reviews, Jack! I was telling EVERYONE about how fantastic the car scene was because of the red light/green light aspect, and everyone was like "What? I didn't notice that!". So happy to hear you saw it and loved it too!!
TWO JACK HOWARD VIDEOS IN TWO DAYS WHAT IS THIS CHRISTMAS?!!
I GASPED WHEN YOU SAID THEY POSSIBLY SOLD AVENGERS TOWER TO OSCORP HOLY CRAP
That thing about trailers and spoilers is so true!!!! My thoughts exactly. Which is why I do my best to avoid trailers. But they shove it down your throat in the theaters! Like I have to hold my ears and hum!!
Hoo boy, i remember watching this video when it came out and i was like, nah, i don't care about the MCU enough to go watch Homecoming, so i didn't care about spoilers. fast forward to November, my friend really wanted me to see it, so i did. i'd forgotten most of your criticisms here so it didn't really spoil it for me, but man i can't believe how many of the little details i've missed! i do agree, the scene that revealed Vulture is Liz's dad was one of the best sequences in the film (it's just... well-written), but i didn't notice the traffic light thing, for instance. and i'm so glad i never saw any of the trailers (and forgot the stuff you said in this video) because the ferry scene _was_ an intense experience for me. you put it into words - yeah, he's just a little boy biting off more than he could chew, and the ferry scene was one of those ones that emphasised that.
i actually wrote a mini-review about this film too (of course, not with the level of attention as you had towards the whole of the film), and in it i also criticised the film for not letting the emotional conflict breathe. that was my main gripe with the film by the way; the film has told us that this Spidey is just a kid but they haven't shown us enough the weight of his experiences. i think they didn't want to hinder the fun tones of the film too much with those heavier themes.
your oscorp theory fucked my life over in the best way possible. I love your passion for Spiderman, as a Spiderman super fan myself (first ever comics, and I watched the animated series avidly as a kid) I'm glad I subscribed to someone who shares the same love, it was an unexpected bonus!
I loved Michelle's character too! Bit weird she was suddenly MJ, but I really want to see more of her in the next films
Arno goes Online I'm kinda hoping that she's not actually mj, and that they were just saying "yeah this is peters new love interest"
Kasai the Fire Mage I think they only used the intials to basically say that she will be at the same compacted as mj. if that makes sense. I do believe she is the mcu version of Mary Jane with out being Mary jane?😅
*compacity
Kasai the Fire Mage Feige did say she's not Mary Jane and the MJ initial thingy was just a nod to the character Mary Jane. He said that Michelle wasn't based on anyone in the comic, so she's a totally new character created for MCU. :D
nakaharaindria yeah that seems fair! Just seemed a little weird to have her character loaded with all these preconceptions now y'know?
I really like your movie reviews. They're so insightful and entertaining and your comments are very interesting and carefully thought out. Really appreciate these videos!
I love this type of reviews. Nothing flashy, with a number out of 10 at the end, just a person in front of a camera talking just as passionately as you would.
i really really loved the white/absence of noise parts, especially on the beach and then the timing of when it cuts back to normal sound was just perfect to me. i thought that the half mask half face bit and tony stark voice over was a bit cheesy and unnecessary?? but that scene as a whole was really good and i agree that it should have had more time to breathe and for the audience to really feel the emotion that they should be feeling in that moment. i've been so looking forward to hearing your opinion and i could listen it you talk about films all day like this so please please keep making more because i really do enjoy them
I love watching your reviews. When I watch films, I just see the tip of the iceberg, the obvious stuff but it seems like when you watch films, you notice so much more; the symbolism and metaphors, the references to other films and the rest of the MCU and the big picture like the Stark tower being sold, etc.
I don't know, your reviews just open my eyes to so much that I wouldn't have seen unless I tried to dissect the film. It makes the films you talk about so much cooler.
I also really love that you covered the score of the film. none of the other reviews I've seen have done that and I feel like it added a lot of emotional backing to it!
Well done for confessing your Amazing Spider-man 2 review being "A little bit blind". I like to hear a film makers take on films and love your perspective in particular, that review however rocked the boat for me a few years ago. It takes something to confront your mistakes, can't wait to hear more reviews in the future!
That subtle way of leaving almost unnoticeable references to future scenes or characters, like the Miles Morales one you mentioned, is Marvel's most mindblowing hability. And it's consistent throughout the whole Phase 4, that ends with SpiderMan: Far From Home. It's very common to be watching one of their movies and realise you have already heard a name before or that certain place or object seams familiar.
In Captain Marvel, Carol Danvers becomes best friends with a woman who has a little daughter. That same daughter will eventually grow up to become a S.W.O.R.D agent and confront Wanda in WandaVision. When you first see her, her last name rings a bell, and makes you want to explode of excitement and tell everyone that you know who she is.
Connecting the universe in such a clever way is a form of assuring the viewer/fan feels a part of a story, a process that develops as the fan continues to watch the movies and connect the references.
I'd love to hear you just talk about more films - old or new, it's just really lovely to experience a film through your eyes and I think you're teaching in a very endearing but accessible way ☺️
I absolutely adored the film (seen it four times already by now), but I gotta agree with you on letting the dramatic moments breath a bit more, it was what bothered me too, especially about the rubble scene. I've watched quite a few reviews on this, and so far you're the only one who has pointed it out, so kudos for that!
(and for not getting hang up on the MJ reveal, good lord am I tired of hearing about that :,,,D)
That dot on the camera is so annoying, thought I had a smudge on the screen
I’m glad you are a Spider-Man fan and you sound like you understand the character, so here is to you hopefully directing one in the future!
I finally saw the movie and had to watch your review, jack... I agree that Tom Holland captures Peter Parker really well, he's the spider-man I think we've all been waiting for. I REALLY liked the idea of Peter documenting everything at the beginning of the film with his phone camera, I think it definitely was an awesome way to remind us like "hey, he was in captain america: civil war, here's a recap with a nice little bow on top" and it kind of tied in the photography aspects of previous Peter Parker depictions as well. The only thing is I wish they would've tied that in throughout the whole film, or at least at the end I think. After he stopped recording at the beginning, he didn't ever take any pictures or video again through the whole film, and I was really hoping they would've done that.. also I was really worried they were going to have someone step in and save him in more than just the ferry scene, and I'm honestly relieved they didn't do that..
I've only seen the film once so far. I'll probably be back here once I see it a second time, ha.
Yes! All my thoughts AND THEN SOME put so eloquently, love this review, keep up the good work Jack!
I also missed the emotional connection I generally have with Spider-Man as a character, but I think it's only because they didn't include the death of Uncle Ben (they eluded to it but never directly dealt with it like in previous movies) if they had added it I think it would have really strengthened Tony's comments when he spoke about his (Tony's) father and how his father hadn't complimented him etc. Will be really interesting to see what they do with his back story though.
I just watched The Amazing Spider-Man after watching Homecoming (I'm a HUGE Spider-Man fan and do tend to watched the movies every two weeks or so) and I totally agree with eveything you just said about the movies.
Tom Holland brings a more refreshing feel to the movies and it's nice to see him grow in the movie.
In the others you see Peter get bitten then Design the suit, then he's all of a sudden the marvel character. But in this movie you already know the story and you actually see him struggle with the fact that's he's got this power and responsibility now, but you also see him being really excited about it. You see him messaging Tony Stark asking what he could do next, you saw him tell his best friend that he knew all the avengers and that he met them and fought with them.
In terms of a story you really get to grow with character from him becoming a school kid and then slowly grow into a hero and learn all these new things as well as still being a school kid and I liked the way Sony equally showed both sides of him, rather than you see him in the school corridor and you have to assume he's nerdy school kid because of his glasses and then in a quick change of clothes he's Spider-Man. I liked the progression of the movie and how you saw the character develop.
Great review! I agree with eveything you said! I can't wait to see it again!
THIS IS SUCH A GOOD REVIEW. i get nervous to watch or read reviews of this movie because i love it sO much. But this made me love it more honestly. to listen to someone who loves this character and this movie talk about the clever things and the sentimental things is great.
I think this is definitely my favourite Spiderman film (although I haven't really watched Tobey's fully), I've really enjoyed others, but this is the first one where I really want to see it again, and i've felt really invested in it. for me it feels refreshing, like you said it doesn't have the cliche things like the swinging from the skyscrapers, and instead follows the story of this excited young lad thrown into a crazy world and him dealing with that after, alongside the usual teen issues. I love Tom so much as Spiderman too he plays it so well
I love how bloody observant you are of everything! A lot of it goes past me, and the fact that you bring it up it clicks straight away!
I genuinely felt I was having a conversation with you about the film in this video hah! You're thinking a lot along the same lines as me but with a more experienced eye for the details. I'm really curious about the easter eggs and things you mentioned too and going to look that all up after.
My only comment re the bad dad situation is that to me even though it was a shock to begin with, it did feel too similar to the last Spider-man series where Mary-Jane's dad was anti-Spiderman and winds up getting hurt because of it in the end. Was so glad there was much happier ending for Keaton in this film though.
I agree completely with your comments regarding the rubble scene. I actually said the same thing to my sister after I took her to see it (I'd already seen it before I went with her). The scene felt too short. It was like he was under the rubble and then was like "Oh well now I'm not anymore." He is a just a boy, no matter how brave Spider-Man is, in that moment it was Peter Parker's desperation showing through. I feel that even if the scene went on for just 45-60sec longer it would have been adequate. I know 60sec is long in a film scene, but it really needed it. The scene didn't have enough weight (pardon the pun) as it should have. Overall, though, it is definitely top 2 favourite films of all time for me.
I agree about the emotional scenes needing to breathe. I felt as it was such a light film and marvel often uses jokes to undercut emotional scenes, that they did a similar thing in this film and were afraid to show too much genuine emotion. Wonder Woman is an example of a film that doesn't undercut or shy away from the emotion. I think a bit longer in the rock scene without Tony's voice over, really would have hit me hard because what I did get the chance to absorb was fantastic.
Lmao when you were talking about the prediction about who the avengers tower was being sold to, I clicked and just shouted "OSCORP" at my screen as you said it!!
I didn't see the trailers and so the "if you cared you'd be here scene" was absolutely amazing to me. I also really loved the post-credits Captain America scene. To be in a theatre full of people who'd waited past the credits was a great experience. The Civil War airport battle, peter parker version was also a great addition to the film.
I WISH I hadn't watched the trailers because all of those 'reveal' moments were SO GOOD! But I knew they were coming! Except for Liz's dad - I and several others gasped. I adored what they did with the theme song, it had me pulled straight into the hysteric excitement I normally get at the beginning of Marvel films. I thought the aesthetics of the suit were gorgeous, loved the more human, street level aspect of it - some of the emotional elements were made too obvious at times but it wasn't drastic. I actually cried a little bit when he was trapped under the rubble because, as you said, in that moment he's just a little kid and you are just desperate to help - making they way he himself gets out of it even better. I loved it and definitely want to see it again.
I actively avoided trailers for this film to the point where I was in the theatre for wonder woman and closed my eyes plugged my ears and hummed to myself when the spiderman trailer came on because I didn't want to be spoiled. I watched the trailers after seeing the movie and wow. Spoilers indeed. After hearing you talk about how it affected the your perception and knowing how things played out I'm SO GLAD I did. Highly recommend you do it for the next one.
I didn't watch any trailers. Mostly by accident. (I mean, I saw a few clips here and there, but that's it.) And the scenes you mentioned that were spoiled by the trailers? Yeah, they were clearly much more effective for me than for most of the people that I spoke to about the film.
1.Homecoming
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Btw, hated spiderman 3 and tasm2. XD
I always enjoyed the Spider-man movies but it was never something that I was super passionate about it, but wow this movie was amazing! I loved hearing your predictions, and thoughts because, as a casual fan, it's something that didn't come to mind.
You're amazing, dude! Best review I've seen and I've seen like 30 reviews
I think the issue with Aunt May in Homecoming is the lack of a Uncle-Ben-Dying backstory. Trust me, I hate the idea of a third film giving us the Spiderman origin story more than anyone, but it does paint Aunt May in a more sympathetic light. In Sam Raimi's films, she has this sort of bereaved widow aspect to her character. Peter needed to care for her and protect and often failed to. Plus the shared grief between Peter and May really established their relationship well. But in Homecoming all we get is Peter saying "after all Aunt May has been through." No grief or sympathy or emotional connection. Just a thought.
Secondly, I deeply miss Danny Elfman's score from the first three films. I loved the homage to the original Spiderman theme but it lacked that epic feeling Elfman's score added to the big moments in Raimi's films. That is all.
Great video as always Jack.
they also had The Tinkerer in the film as well! I thought of that when you were talking about how Marvel did such a good job seamlessly and casually setting the universe up in this movie what with all the people Peter meets like The Shocker, Scorpion, and The Prowler.
I agree.
I was so waiting for this review, didn't disappoint
My personal favorite part of this version of Spiderman was how much of an actual teenager he was. The 'vlog' bit at the beginning was the perfect reminder of his age, and how he dealt with emotional upheaval and moral decisions (the notes he leaves behind) were dealt with better than they had been in the other movies. You can see the 16 year old kid just trying to do his best very obviously, but the throw away moments were what made this character great for me.
I'm really liking the whole movie review thing you're doing at the moment with a bit more consistency and structure I think it would be a cool series for you
Totally agree in regards to the scene when Peter was stuck under all that rubble. My heart sank hearing him screaming and panicking.
I totally agree with you! I've "accidentally" watched most of the trailers and I found myself not surprised at all by scene that should've surprised me!
I wish you talked about the vlog part at the beginning of the movie I thought it was a nice introduction to Spidey and the cameo of Gwyneth Paltrow, it was a really nice surprise!
As soon as that twist was revealed, I just thought Crazy Stupid Love, it's so similar and they are both films where you aren't expecting any twist at all so it's genius! Absolutely love that movie, such a hilarious twist!
I agree with what you said about setting things up, and I'd love to see a video about that. I completely agree that it wasn't clunky and annoying, they all felt smooth and natural.
I wish I could articulate my thoughts as well as you do!! With every point you made I was just like YES THAT'S EXACTLY IT. Spot on review! :)
I didn't pay attention to the trailers too much and so I didn't know that he was actually there in the "if you cared scene" and yeah. It was good. Very emotional
I only watched the first teaser and avoided all trailers until after I saw the movie. I'm so glad I did that because the ferry scene had me on the edge of my seat and I was SURE Peter was gonna fail and it'd become a huge weight on his conscience and when Tony Stark was revealed to be in the suit it was such an "oh shit" moment. I think that I would have enjoyed those scenes much less if I had seen it coming
Good idea about the trailers! I also like the old 60s theme tune: it felt like marvel were saying "this is the real Spider-Man, the one you remember"
It was one of my favourite movies I've seen this year. Spider-Man is just one of those movies that really connects with me and I just felt so comfortable watching it all.
I DIDNT EVEN THINK ABOUT OSCORP POSSIBLY MOVING INTO THE OLD TOWER I WAS JUST A NOSTALGIC MESS MISSING HARRY AND THE OSBORNS. I LITERALLY PAUSED THIS VIDEO, SCREAMED, AND TEARED UP. !!! also I get what you're saying about the trailers kind of ruining some bits, that's why I never watch trailers until after I've seen the film. it's just something I've always done. I go into movies pretty much blind. leaves for a much more enjoyable movie watching experience. the tony stark voiceover in the rubble scene was a bit much too, definitely didn't need it but I get why it's there. brilliant review.
The first 5 minutes after the marvel logo of Peter vlogging Civil War is what sold me on Tom Holland as Spiderman completely XD I didn't expect to love this movie as much as I did, because Spiderman has always been my favourite hero in comics but not on film, now he's my favourite on film too and I'm so happy
THE RED LIGHT ON THE VULTURE'S FACE IN THE CAR!!! YES. I loved that scene because it portrays darkness and anger and fear, while still having normal lights on Peter.
I heard the trailer was spoiler city so I avoided it at all costs. I even brought earplugs to the movie theater when I went to see other films so that I could more effectively block out the trailer's audio. So going in with no prior knowledge, the ferry scene was quite suspenseful. When Iron Man showed up saying "Hey there SPIDER-MAN," his tone of his voice was so furious and patronizing, and his presence so surprising, that I was kind of terrified to see him even though he's not truly an antagonist. Considering Peter's position I'm sure he would have experienced that same shock and fear, which made the scene very effective. Then the moment we find out he was actually in the suit, that scared the shit out of me! I was so surprised and intimidated! I think it was excellently done, and if I'd seen it in the trailer, I wouldn't have had that experience. So the moral of the story is always bring ear plugs to the movie theater.
I really love how Tony was a paternal figure in the movie, we really see that he's working on himself and trying to be better which I love because I love Tony's character and some people give him so much hate.
when Michael Keaton opened the door at liz's house there was an audible gasp in the theater and it was amazing. i am with you though about the trailers being too revealing because i wish there had been more moments like finding out vulture was liz's dad.
I agree with what you said about the trailers. It was irritating that I couldn't have a real reaction to the outcome of the ferry scene because I already knew what would happen. But can you blame me for watching them over and over? I was so excited. I think Marvel should find a better formula for creating trailers
I thought the reason they had the Ferris Bueller bit was because the final scene (after the credits) of Deadpool recreated the ending of Ferris Bueller. I liked that it strung that through as a bit of continuity.
I went into the movie completely blind and I actually loved it. Best marvel movie I've seen in a while
I was so pleased with Spider-Man Homecoming because I honestly thought they weren't going to get it right, I thought they were using RDJ for pure promo and I thought it was going to be a remake of the swinging through the buildings all over again. I'm SO happy they proved me wrong and I walked out with a smile on my face. Got a bit of a crush on Tom Holland now too but my boyfriends cool with it
The Oscorp thing I didn't even consider, that would be so sick if they use that to bring that in. This movie was so good for the fans and dropping all those hints and for future characters was amazing.
I love listening to you talk about movies
Also the school principal is related to one of captain america's team in tfa as in the scene where he allows peter to remain in midtown high you see a picture in a frame of cap with bucky and his team taking down hydra in the 40s also there is a theory flying around that michelle jones is related to one of cap's team as one of them also have the surname jones and that michelle is spying on peter (remember when she said "I'm very observant") so I can't wait to see if that is true or not
just a lil more easter eggs that I've seen floating around on youtube and stan twitter
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