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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 มิ.ย. 2024
- The long-awaited primary video is out! This one's a lot more edited than most of the related endgame ranking/analysis videos, hope you enjoy!
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Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
01:38 Auto Rifles
03:47 Bows
05:23 Hand Cannons
07:02 Pulse Rifles
09:12 Scout Rifles
11:15 Sidearms
12:53 SMGs
14:54 Outro - เกม
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Me who uses the same weapon for every type of content (I have severe brain rot)
Real tbh
@@TheAegisRelicnot even mentioned, and it's revised pulse this season. Forgot the name, but I have feeding frenzy and incandescent on it and I love it
@@bigmelon44
adhortative
@bigmelon44 I gilded my iron banner title with the base crafted roll on that bad boy. It just felt so good, like a legendary ntte. I'm running enhanced healclip/incandescent now and it's a very fun weapon
@@keviniaquinto128 hell yeah brother
3:19 Arago doesn't technically have a splash perk but it does have access to the wild card origin trait, which functions as a pseudo splash damage perk
That's worth noting, thanks for pointing that out!
So does pre-astyanax. I much prefer it over tyranny since it has a better archetype and isn't too bad to farm considering the adept version exists and it has a small perk pool
@@bofa722also the submunitions will cause incandescent to proc if they get a kill!
Hey bro don't apologize. You're bringing amazing info to the player base, and I don't think you owe it to us on a condensed timeline
Nah it's moreso like I could've put this out faster, it wasn't slow because I put extra effort into it, it was slow because I procrastinated and delayed so it's kind of like an apology to myself as well haha
@TheAegisRelic Well delayed or not, thanks for making these videos
Honorable mentions: Night Watch, Extraordinary Rendition, Calus Mini-tool. Imo all feel phenomenal and put in work.
Can't forget funnelwebb that is easily my sll time favourite void smg
All decent picks for sure
@@shaunmacready701 Funnelweb is definitely a strong pick, and with that rounds out the 900rpms in energy slot. Calus, Funnel, and Subjunct in Aegis' video.
I saw Aegis call Calus jank, and I took that personally. /s But also the range being a bit short and I agree.
What about Fatebringer? I recently got a time lost version
What is it about calus mini tool that you love? I finally got it and just don't seem to get it going much it seems bad but mine is a random roll not a great one
i've been slowly getting into endgame pve over the years (specifically solos/solo speedruns) and i love your videos, some of my favourite d2 content
Glad you're enjoying the content!
This is very helpful in understanding what perks are valued for PVE, lots of stuff I would normally have passed over though I guess it doesn't really matter as much unless you're doing the high-end stuff
Aegis I love you so so much for dimming the background while showing weapon rolls as opposed to blurring everything :( You are a gift
:) it was for you
@@TheAegisRelic YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH
Keep up the good work man, All this hard work will pay off
The amount of bullets required for KT to proc on sidearms was fixed. Buzzard actually feels pretty good now.
I saw that it was buffed but I don't believe it changed Buzzard's KT activation significantly unless I was seeing wrong
shoutout to calus mini-tool for when you want solar affinity for solar builds since ember of empyrean really, really wants you to match your gun. a staple of solo flawless dungeon runs for a lot of people, myself included, although now with hand cannons being so good and strand titan not really giving a shit about your primary it's not what it used to be and you should probably just use sunshot for everything
props for mentioning abyss defiant. I was initially dismayed at how good the perks were trapped on a high-impact auto, but the lower than normal zoom (16 instead of 19), insane origin trait and great perk combo really elevate it beyond what you'd expect the frame to do normally. it's still an auto rifle so you only really use it if you have to, but if you have to it's definitely a clear choice.
I've honestly been disappointed with CMT when I used it, so I didn't include it as a top pick here, its range leaves something to be desired and it just feels a bit janky to use
@@TheAegisRelic honestly the new world drop smg feels better for me in run and gun scenarios Shoot to loot is great even with its limited range. It just suffers from only one damage perk in frenzy but it’s still solid.
@@TheAegisRelicI only really use it on solar hunter where the crappy reload is negated and the extra +20 mobility is very appreciated. that said these days I think heliocentric pretty much just does the same things but better especially with AB sidearm, and like I said you may as well just use sunshot over either unless you really need the exotic heavy
even with CMT being 900rpm i prefer No Survivors (a 720rpm) from GotD with demo/incan over it
@@Providance I still haven’t gotten the elusive demo + Incan combo
Excellent info for that ugly smg with voltshot, I had no idea about it!
I farmed out a demo/headstone Horror Story for my stasis build as well as both an Enlightened/Onslaught and Enlightened/Tremors Breakneck and I absolutely love all three of them. Ros Arago is a pretty great sleeper pick as well, especially for void builds. Autos have always been one of my favorite weapon types so I’m glad we’ve gotten a few great ones recently.
Ros Arago is amazing, instantly replaced my farmed unforgiven with an onslaught, repulsor brace roll
Yess ive been waiting for this video for a while a good sir. As always you deliver
best destiny2 content! i only started couple of months ago and your videos are very detailed and helpful thank you!
Don't worry about the time, I'd rather you take your time to gather the knowledge and deliver us an accurate, concise video than feel you have to rush the whole thing, nice work!
Lethal Abundance with slice/hatchling or slice/onslaught is awesome.
11:25 Although it is NOT fun to grind for, I think that Liminal Vigil from Spire of the Watcher packs quite the punch for a sidearm and is the clear optimal kinetic-slot choice for both general slaying and splash damage; it has access to 3rd column headstone that can stack with damage perks in its 4th column (e.g., swash, kill clip, surrounded), making it a monster for AoE detonations and raw damage output. To truly make the best of this combo, you'd want armor-piercing rounds; the over-penetration allows you to detonate headstone crystals through the enemies you're shooting, all at the same time, if you have them lined up. On top of all that, its origin trait can grant moderate boosts to handling and reload speed, both of which are great stat bumps for it.
More generally, armor-piercing rounds are super slept on for trash mob clear, ESPECIALLY for close-range options like Liminal Vigil where lining up trash mobs is significantly easier and more likely to happen naturally due to enemy AI behavior. In the most optimal conditions (e.g., a line of thralls), you effectively double your slaying potential because one bullet damages two enemies at once. If any of you ever snag a roll like this, I implore you to try it. I'm lucky enough to have a version of this roll after grinding it and, combined with anti-barrier sidearm and Hail the Storm from this season's artifact to further improve Headstone detonations, it just absolutely f*cking DESTROYS trash mobs.
considering how good wilderflight is and that they both only drop from the last boss it's certainly worth keeping an eye out for a good one as you farm for wilderflight
Yep, I 100% agree @@Narfwak
It was certainly in the conversation when we were debating kinetic sidearms
At least for this season I've gotten a Parabellum with Heal clip + Attrition Orbs and its been working on any subclass I use solar surge mods on (paired with Dragons Breath usually). Attrition orbs for guaranteed orb generation for every mag (67% of mag hit) for constant uptime of surge mods plus gaining ability energy back and healing via mods is just amazing as a support frame in end-game content. It's like a damage, healing, and ability generating perk all in one (based on the orb mods you have equipped).
As I'm only using primaries, specifically solar, to trigger the seasonal artifacts and to clear red bars it's mostly a support slot vs my Special and Heavy weapons. So having that on demand orb generation without needing to kill them is just amazing imo. And it does proc along side your other siphon mods so you can easily get 2 orbs off a single enemy.
It's gotten me excited for what the fully support frame Auto rifle is going to be like.
I have that roll too. Heal clip procs so much and paired with orb healing armour mod makes me almost invincible.
Sweet Sorrows is a personal favorite for autos. I main arc titan, though. Land tank on a rapid fire auto with stats for all and one for all. Ugh it's delicious.
Wish we had arc again this season arc titan is the most fun build in this entire game I love skullfort triple 100 stats and just shoulder charge everything then swap the chest for champs or boss damage paired woth riptide stuns all champs basically and finish of with whatever else your using. Arc hunter also another favourite build. I love arc for all characters the most that godly zeus feel is too good
Pre Astranox really surprised me, especially with adept draw time. It fires so fucking fast and I use it whenever I can
6:48 GET OVER HERE, GLADIATOR!!!
LMFAOO
FINALLY SOMEONE MENTIONS POINTED INQUIRY!!!
Thanks for the vid, interesting, never thought about the under over perk before. Ilove Transfiguration with enhanced rewind rounds and kinetic tremors.. Great for stunning champs when scout are on unstoppable and think kt may prod rewind rounds also as just firing for ages. Also good damage if out of heavy etc. Age old bond with enhanced 4ttc and target lock useful also.
Thanks, Aegis.
Allied Demand is weird due to weapon shape.
Adhortative and Subjunctive are both OP.
Come to Pass is so great.
You're the first person I watch who puts Subjunctive over Ikelos SMG. I'm happy to see this.
I was just a bit confused that Positive Outlook didn't make the Auto Rifle race lol. Ambitious/Destabelizing proofed to be a great adclear option, and it's faster to obtain than Ros Arago.
Thank you for the video! I found some weapons that I still want to farm! And this was very helpful even though we don't have a tierlist, but more of the gmeiner approach. Thank you for taking your time on these videos
Ambitious/Destab doesn't really hold up in endgame content because of kill-reload requirements (Rewind is just better for example) and Destab's ICD, but I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
Come to Pass also gets stats for all + one for all. Gotten through several GMs with that one.
I’ve been flogging the new side arm Indebted Kindness from the new Dungeon, beacon rounds volt shot. Fantastic ad clear with range!
very good edging material king
The one I've been using a LOT is.. Posterity with Frenzy + Volstshot
Frenzie being both a damage perk and a reload perk, Volstshot being a (weak) damage perk but excellent ad clear perk just just sold it for me, and the origin trait is nice especially in light of ability cooldown changes. Sure not the greatest in all content but hasn't let me down yet.
I almost didn't and to give it a full on go because it was a 180, but then I noticed in Ghosts of the Deep, it didn't matter if I was using a 120 or a 180, all hand-cannon archtypes were 2-shotting acolytes. So I gave Posterity a shot and fell in love with it.
Oh that and Tyranny of Heavy. Jeebus the Dragonfly + Incandescent cleared rooms even without artifact mods making it even more bonkers.
Yes, now that is what I call my level of awesome great mentions and very strong, 180s hand cannon are some of my favourite they feel so good. But because its more solar focused sunshot and zalou hand from kings fall are just epic this season
I crafted the same roll. Posterity was the first DSC weapon I went for as a 180 hand cannon enjoyer.
I hate using 180 hand cannons but it’s pretty much objectively the best hand cannon for pve and it’s not even close imo.
NEW AEGIS VIDEO BEAST
for hand cannons i gotta recommend word of crota rolled w/ repulsor brace/destab rounds, or demo/frenzy
Love your content, thanks for the quality AND quantity!
3:20 I'm currently running Ros with a permeability and onslaught oh my goodness it's amazing cuz you can change it to any damage type especially this season with solar being hilariously buffed throwing it on it any solar build allows you to laser down enemys its definitely one of my favorites lol
A primary I've been obsessed with this season is my swash/pugilist mykels reverence on my banner titan, anti barrier rounds make shooting enemies a breeze no annoying immune messages and having unraveling rounds at almost all times that are also constantly generating threadlings with the artifact is just nuuuuuts
Awesome list! If you don’t normally run a primary, what is your typical load out? Fusion plus shotty for neutral game? How much does ability play into this, I’m presuming solar warlock?
In terms of hand cannons i feel like Word of Crota is quite underrated because it can roll with Dragonfly and Destabilizing rounds which can do some insane wave clear especially if on a Void subclass.
I absolutely love Word of Crota. It’s a fantastic hand cannon and has great ad clear. I’m a big fan of overshields, so repulsor brace/ destabilizing rounds is my pick on the gun. The fact that you can get void overshields on non void subclasses will never cease to amuse me
Counterpoint: 180 RPM
@@bofa722counterpoint accepted
It's actually not bad it's just there's so many other good HCs
The vex scout rifle from the season of the wish focusing is also really good despite being kinetic damage and a precision frame. And it can easily be farmed for calibration data.
the fact that I'm watching this four months later and the season isn't over 😅
For the bow section I'd like to draw attention to vengeful whisper from WR dungeon. Can roll successful warmup in left column along with archers tempo on the right, explosive head in the left column, or precision instrument in the right. Pretty good for a top slot bow choice if it's needed
Wait I just finished the video ain't no way you said nothing about calus mini tool for energy smgs, this must've been a dare
CMT is overrated imo, also Vengeful is decent but worse than the options mentioned imo
Excellent video as always Aegis, thank you! Hey, quick question... I know you made a very detailed guide on how to use double special but since they nerfed ammo drop rates i find myself running out of ammo very quickly even with special finishers. Any advice when doing loadouts or during gameplay to avoid this problem?
I'm not aegis, but I can offer advice. The problem could stem from a few different areas, but my first guess is that you ONLY have special finish equipped. I'd recommend also getting other armor mods in there like Stacks on Stacks, at least one Charged Up (I run 3), and then making sure you've got good orb generation. If you're running an ad clear weapon like forbearance, have an arc siphon mod on. If you're doing ability spam make sure you've got the orbs from grenades or melees. Then just remember to get your finishers whenever you have 3 charges of armor
Will probably make a video soonish
@@TheAegisRelic Niiice! It would be really helpful, thanks :D
Judgement is also decent with demo explosive.
Kinetic tremors is decent for champs and keep them stunned for longer if you are out of heavy and need to stun a few times.
Also vanguard bow with shoot to loot is decent this season . You can even use it as anti barrier this season if you dont use unstop bow and just equip flintstriker.
Tbh I think Fatebringer is just so dominant in the kinetic slot that other options don't even come close, Judgment has awful base reload afaik and doesn't really hold a candle
@@TheAegisRelicas goated as fatebringer is judgement is the only HC with demolitionist and osmosis making it good in any nade spam build
omg new aegis video! letsgoo
Excellent video!
For energy weapons, do still still try and match shield types, or not so much now that Match Game is gone? I am holding onto a variety of guns that may not be as good as the optimal ones you're using here, mostly out of historical habit, but I'm wondering if that's an impulse I should be trying to counteract now. Any thoughts?
Nah just match surge lol
Posterity deserves a shoutout for having voltshot, which can stun overload champs even when unstop hc is a perk. That plus frenzy and ability regen origin trait make it really decent for certain gms depending on the artefact, not to mention synergy with arc builds.
Yeah it was third place in our comparisons
I really want your channel to grow because your videos are so well explained and i know you actually know what your talking about. Ill continue to like your videos. Growwww my friend🎉
Thanks!
I personally use khvostov for overload stunning as it is very versatile and it is a good frame.
My personal favourite legendary handcannon for add clear is probably the re-issued craftable Posterity. I lucked into a Rampage + Voltshot roll so I haven't had to craft it. I really like using it on Mothgrips arc hunter.
Also love to see the Seventh Seraph SI2 love, I have Demo + Vorpal on mine and I actually recommended it
Voltshot Frenzy Posterity was a consideration for this list, definitely decent
For primary sidearms I use Liminal Vigil from Spire of Watchers. I got headstone + desperado, Once you have one crit kill you can get decent splash damage from ice crystals and the gun itself fires very quickly and it has some stasis synergy.
This was definitely one of the sidearms I considered for the kinetic slot
Good video thanks man
I absolutely adore my heliocentric with heal clip and incandescent for anything pve related
Adhortative with Heal Clip + Incan is a great pulse, along with having Nano-Munitions on top of it
Not a bad pick for sure
what are your thoughts on the new special ammo sidearms from warlords ruin? they can one tap barriers this season and have access to voltshot and beacon rounds
Beacon rounds is really overrated, it doesn't give any advantage whatsoever since the rockets are pretty fast, impulse amplifier or even loose change is better since both give reload speed for volt shot
Ran one with voltshot and stasis Titan and destroyed the psiops GM with it. Also a hilarious PvP roll is beacon rounds and adagio. Easy 2 taps without ever having to aim down
Great for QoL
Impulse amplifier voltshot indebted kindness with velocity masterwork is crazy underrated. My new go to secondary this season. Great range, great ad clear and surprisingly good at dealing with yellow bars, especially barriers.
damn forget beacon rounds, impulse amplifier is the way to go then
I have a arrowhead demolition head stone horror story and it sinks sooo well with ice titan
For kinetic bow dont sleep on fel taradiddle, comes with shoot to loot and explosive head, and also has an origin trait to lower enemy damage by 10% with sustained damage. Explosive head counting for 2 hits per shot keeps the buff up often
It's not bad, it's just a lightweight
Epochal integration is really really good too imo. Its like legendary version of sunshot
regarding the sidearms in the category splash damage, is headstone not a viable enough option in your opinion? i'm thinking of a peacebond with subsistence headstone e.g. (kills by crystal breaks proc sub aswell afaik) or the liminal vigil with headstone in the first slot making it pairable with killclip or surrounded
Headstone is a bit situational but it's a fine perk
Not the kind of end game pve you’re talking about, but for lfg Crota’s End I clutch my heal clip Parabellum so tight as the extra healing for allies is the only thing getting us through the lamp encounter.
liminal vigil with headstone + a damage perk (surrounded swash kc or desperado) is a pretty neat sidearm as well
Yeah it was considered, not bad
For pulse rifles im suprised outbreak perfected didn’t get mentioned.
because of its insane ability to melt yellow bars
Doom of chelchis goes hard
It’s so accurate and easy to use and also hits like a truck
Not a legendary
Doom is a 180 which I really dislike but it has really great perks yeah
@@TheAegisRelic ah I didn’t realize it was only legendary’s my bad
babe wake up, new aegis upload
Not me having to rewind the video to hear what Aegis said because I zoned out watching the footage
Ngl pointed inquiry in the thumbnail has my internet piqued
Great video as always, but I noticed some buzzing on your mic that I'm not sure if you noticed when editing!
Can you point out a timestamp? I might have missed something
@@TheAegisRelic Seemed to be throughout the video, seemed relatively subtle but noticeable. Could be on the higher frequency range so maybe a really small high pass filter could help. I'm not too great with audio so might need a better pair of ears for it.
That being said, went back to your previous videos and I could also hear it but way way WAY more quietly. I hope that helps, still a great video! :)
I think you should consider looking into Posterity from DSC, yes its a 180 rpm hand cannon but it gets frenzy and voltshot. I think thats arguably one of the best energy primaries, its origin trait also acts as demo (weaker).
It was third place when we were deciding on energy HCs haha
I have a wolf tone draw bow with dragonfly and damn with jolt from aspects this thing just slaps
Ever since I’ve crafted my Subjunctive I’ve been absolutely loving it, definitely prefer it over the ikelos
I like to have one weapon of each type for each element (at least, lol). Would be interested to see what a best of each element woukd look like
Not really important these days
@@TheAegisRelic true since match game was neutered. I just like to change it up Never know when I meant need a solar scout for some reason lol
Is there any way to get the season of plunder weapons? Ive heard people say no, but I got the stasis shotgun recently. I just don't remember where i got it.
Likely purchased from xur or banshee
yeah Xur and Banshee with random rolls
right now the Shotgun is at Xur
with Calus Mini Tool decent rolls
I wouldn’t mind a 5 hour video of whatever you wanted to dissect
Threat detector and frenzy barely stack btw. Swap out one of them. Only noticeable change for having both active is the 0.9x/0.81x reload speed multiplier.
What other perk would you sub in for Threat
Rune of chelchis Explosive + One for all is a seriously under-rated damage combo, explosive rounds make one for all pretty much an instant activation with grouped up enemies, chelchis gang rise up
that gun feels like ass in general, I just hate shooting it for no good reason. I use the witch season scout with shoot to loot and explosive payload
Finally somebody covers my favorite bow roll on tyranny of heaven why does everybody go pikachu surprise face when I blow up entire rooms with this thing.
Deleting everything in my vault not mentioned in this video thank you aegis
Awesome.
I still use my Seventh Seraph SI-2 with Threat Detector and Vorpal. Say what you will, sidearms do really good damage anyway, so Vorpal really helps when you need the damage. Literally my second most used gun
Do you not use primaries to farm ammo from ads in dungeons and raids since only primaries work with finder mods? I thought since double special was nerfed you can’t generate enough heavy ammo between boss damage phases unless you switch to a primary and use heavy finders?
Special weapons work fine with ammo finders, not sure who said that and that's why swap dps is prevalent but sweaty teams/ppl just exotic swap ceno/aeon if heavy is a problem
Exotic primaries yes legendaries no
Curious if you'd consider making a similar video specifically only for high end stuff and/or speedrunning.
There are already quite a few options here that I could consider for end game but then I feel like the amount of choices is still a bit overwhelming.
Yeah I'll probably make an equipment video some time
Surprised the Parabellum with Heal Clip wasn't talked about it's basically an unlimited phoenix dive mini gun 😂
shoutout to Epochal Integration for HCs. It's a good value Zaouli's Bane if you can't be bothered with Kingsfall for whatever reason.
Quick question is a godroll empty vessel better or a wilderflight without frenzy/vorpal. I did some testing although it was extremely inconsistent
Wilder better
@@TheAegisRelic even with triple solar surge to match apex?
@@elitespxd2563 one wilder no surge (+30% than lightweight) // empty vessel with 3 surges (22%)
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I'm still stuck on double specials but still watching this!
Same haha
@@TheAegisRelic I would love your opinion on how the new special Sidearms are. Buried Bloodline kinda trivializes GMs when applied correctly, and Indebted is such a massive DPS monster for such a high amount of ammo.
If you don’t mind me asking, how are you able to manage double specials with the nerf? The only time I find myself able to use it is when I’m doing a raid encounter since I get a rally at the beginning and (based on which encounter it is) I’ll have enough reserves to get through it. But outside of that I can’t find an activity where I can rely on special/heavy drops in this economy :(
The only primary that I use is funnel web maybe it’s just me missing recluse but I love that thing
I may just be stupid, but at 4:57 , how are those bows meant for overloads? Did you mean when bows get a anti-overload mod that these are the best for dealing with them, or are you specifically talking about the percs? I can kind of get Pre Astayanax for its origin trait Stunning Recovery aside from the fact that I feel like it would be good against any champion for that specific reason, but I fail to see how Strident Whistle then makes an appearance nor how they are both the best versus specifically overload champions.
Explosive Head applies two damage instances which can help with stunning right as a champ comes out of its stun timer (when Overload Bow is around)
Heart broken at putting nation of beasts 2nd, the blue sparkles and zappy reload damage perk make me far happier than stupid orange silliness (I used zaoulis bane during day 1 crota)
What roll do you have of that new pacific epitath gl that was in the veginning?
It's like a completely random roll that I got as my first one I think
@@TheAegisRelic neat.
Is there a video going over your double special since it has been nerfed? At the end of the vid you said you don’t use primary much still so I was wondering what the workaround was?
Yeah I might make a video on that topic
@@TheAegisRelic awesome! I can’t speak for everyone but I would for sure appreciate that.
only thing i would say is, for clarity, it would be nice to see the name of weapon/the perk names + the whole set up in a picture if possible.
as someone who isnt very knowledgeable on the game yet its item names and perks, it would be a much more interesting and usable guide to see these additions
One hand cannon I think is slept on is posterity, 180 HCs have slightly better dps than 140s and voltshot frenzy is very potent for add clear, and the bray inheritance origin trait is a good bonus too. The add clear isn't as strong as zaouli's, but I much prefer it over nation of beasts
It was a close third when we were debating the HCs to put on this list
As far as autos go i like the ros with RR but old sterling with RR and frenzy melts adds fast its my favorite legendary auto by a mile
hell yeah aegis
I would have assumed Waking Vigil would have been called out in the hand cannon section because it can get Shoot to Loot + Voltshot. Is it just held back by its stats, or does Nation of Beats really offer more with Dragonfly? See the same with Posterity getting Frenzy + Voltshot.
Posterity was a close third in the consideration for energy HCs but I just didn't think Vigil offered anything that another hand cannon doesn't already have for the most part (it's not bad though)
honey wake up new aegis dropped
surprised transfiguration wasn’t mentioned for the scouts. Rewind + tremors = infinite firing for comfortable sustained damage
It may not be extremely fast melting, but it is still very potent and fun imo. It was great for overloads last season.
Got lucky with a rewind, explosive payload and it’s fun in PvP and pve 👍🏼
It's a 150 sadly
Imo trustee feels better with recon + incan, as I don't feel like it has enough range at base to warrant building it out to be viable in sustained long range fire, where it would benefit most from the stability increase granted by rapid hit. Instead I feel it excels by leaning into the rapid frame style with recon, and the mag is so big that you'll rarely need to reload it anyway if you're using other weapons every now and again. Works surprisingly well for occasional hip fire too, it's no DMT, but in a pinch it can hold its own in cqc
Yeah Recon's fine too
Nothing beats the good old night watch for endgame long range stuff 😅
Still decent for sure
For a subjunctive with voltshot- what is the best secondary perks? I don’t know what to run with it.
Shoot or Threat imo
@@TheAegisRelic interesting, what’s the deal with shoot to loot? I honestly struggle to understand the use case. I wanna like it but I could use some insight.
What about the sidearm form spire of the watcher? It's a two round burts with headstone and desperado. Seems to me like god tier (for a sidearm) ad clear gun. I dont have one btw so i cant really say if it's actually good or not
Not bad but I don't think it's better than what's here in general
I get that precision bows are a better archetype but I like my craftable lightweight fel teradiddle...I use mine with shoot to loot and explosive head plus it has the psychohack origin trait and it's kinetic.
Fel isn't bad I just disliked using it, lightweight bows feel really weird to me
Thanks for this one, I just like some of the primaries because the archetypes are fun to use and not because they are best. I usually play Destiny when I want to experience great gunplay while mindlessly killing PvE creatures to just chillout. I also like the more difficult stuff as well with friends but when solo, find the more meta weapon loadouts a bit, idk, like I'm not really playing a shooter because it's all just projectiles
The off chance that abilities get toned down again, would primary usage go up again in endgame pve ? Just wondering I’m pretty ignorant on this topic.
(Pvp player)
I don't think so
Ross Arago IV with Rewind Rounds and onslaught also its void best AR in game