The GENIUS of Erwin's Smoke Screen & Hange's Titans - Overanalyzing Attack on Titan & Retrospective

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  • @cassie6146
    @cassie6146 ปีที่แล้ว +4557

    The sad thing about Sawney and Bean is that Hange probably treated them with more humanity than anyone in their pre-titan lives.

    • @audreyandremington5265
      @audreyandremington5265 ปีที่แล้ว +132

      do you think their souls like, saw what was happeing? Like their humanity was able to experience it?

    • @jagnestormskull3178
      @jagnestormskull3178 ปีที่แล้ว +282

      ​@@audreyandremington5265 I doubt that, because the conversation that Reiner, Beirtholt, and Ymir (Scout, not Founder) have confirms that it's consistent that you don't remember anything from your Titan time, whether it's someone who spent a long time as a Titan such as Ymir (Scout), or someone who was trained to become a Titan Shifter (Reiner and Beirtholt). Beirtholt also says to Ymir (Scout, not Founder) when forgiving her "I suppose I have to think that you didn't want to eat anyone." From this scene, we can reason that the mind is nullified in at least three ways (even more so than in a meditative state) - memory, desire, and choice; from this, we can reason that experience is also likely nullified.

    • @28aminoacids
      @28aminoacids ปีที่แล้ว +102

      Hanje probably lost a million comrades along the way, but her most intense cry is over Sawney and Bean's death.

    • @FluidThinker
      @FluidThinker ปีที่แล้ว +44

      ​@@colinsteeley if you watched the series, you know that the eldians probably had a fate worse than that.

    • @xrayian
      @xrayian ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FluidThinker exactly!!

  • @audreyandremington5265
    @audreyandremington5265 ปีที่แล้ว +3734

    1. Erwin believed there were people outside the walls.
    2. Erwin knew there were people inside the titans trying to destroy them.
    3. Erwin knew the government was trying to cover up the existence of people outside the walls.
    4. Erwin knew the government was playing pacifist.
    5. Erwin knew that the people outside the walls were turning into titans like Eren and then trying to destroy their society, and their own government was trying to cover it up for some reason, likely for some cult of pacifism, and thus he needed to gain control of the government so that their society had a chance of fighting back.

    • @juhadexcelsior
      @juhadexcelsior ปีที่แล้ว +806

      6. Erwin is based.

    • @jagnestormskull3178
      @jagnestormskull3178 ปีที่แล้ว +522

      Erwin's father also theorized that the First King was able to alter people's memories somehow, and with Titan Shifters in play, Erwin would probably have parsed the mystery of the Founding Titan, or at least part of it, at soon as the existence of a Titan Shifter besides Eren was confirmed.

    • @HoundsBane
      @HoundsBane ปีที่แล้ว +11

      YES!!!

    • @user-de3cp6mf1d
      @user-de3cp6mf1d ปีที่แล้ว +375

      In conclusion, Erwin was INCREDIBLE, an absolute GOAT, and King of Strategy, and his loss was a major one. Armin is smart, bur Erwin was much more experienced, nuanced, better leader, better at scheming

    • @resilientlemon1302
      @resilientlemon1302 ปีที่แล้ว +103

      He totally would have been a Jaegerist

  • @allisoncossitt1081
    @allisoncossitt1081 ปีที่แล้ว +500

    I love how the "Who is the real enemy" question is also kind of being asked to the viewer. Because at first, well duh, it's the Titans, but then it's the Marleyan Titans, and then it's Zeke, and then it's Marley, and then it's... Eren? So, who IS the real enemy? It's all frame of reference and it changes depending on who you ask and where you are in the storyline. That sort of depth is what makes this such absolutely stellar writing!

    • @EJS-jj8py
      @EJS-jj8py ปีที่แล้ว +24

      "And then it's... Eren" Funny he's asking this question to Eren himself

    • @icomeinpeace3756
      @icomeinpeace3756 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Literally when I watched the show the first time I thought it was him and Levi that killed the titans because of the walk off they did after he asked Eren the question lmfao

    • @marthvader14
      @marthvader14 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      No, it's just Marley and later also the world

    • @estebandiaz2772
      @estebandiaz2772 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@marthvader14”also the world”
      School shooters also think the world is the problem, that’s why they lash out at everyone, little kids included.

    • @marthvader14
      @marthvader14 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@estebandiaz2772 What the fuck?

  • @airiquelmeleroy
    @airiquelmeleroy ปีที่แล้ว +1520

    Wow
    Before I just thought "Wow, among the less than 10 recruits, 3 of them are titans, one is a royal, and only 4 of them are normal, which are Eren's friends? How believable"
    Completely oblivious to erwins plan to scare all the normal people away

    • @hkhoa269
      @hkhoa269 ปีที่แล้ว +239

      Mikasa is not normal. she is a ackermann. descendend from a people beyond the walls.
      so that leaves just 3 people that are normal connie, jeanne, sasha. XD

    • @freddytheshadowninja
      @freddytheshadowninja ปีที่แล้ว +101

      Isayama: How do I pare down this supporting cast?... Oh, I'll have Erwin scare them away!

    • @BlackStarSymphony
      @BlackStarSymphony ปีที่แล้ว +61

      @@hkhoa269 it's also implied that she might be of noble or raloyal descend as well as she has the mark on her wrist.
      Also, it's Jean. Jeanne is the female form of Jean. I know some people have a hard time with his name. "Sjawn" is how you pronounce it as it is a French name and that's how they say the name. Not saying you don't know, but maybe someone reads this and they don't know.

    • @annrosentia
      @annrosentia ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@BlackStarSymphony I had no idea, I just pronounce his name like Jean pants

    • @moonl1314
      @moonl1314 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BlackStarSymphony john

  • @clayongunzelle9555
    @clayongunzelle9555 ปีที่แล้ว +1276

    You need to look closer at jean and Reiner, both of them are pretty much going through the same stuff but Jean doesn't break, that's why he's so pissed at Reiner when Reiner is begging for forgiveness because he wants to cry too but he can't

    • @remphz3321
      @remphz3321 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not really. You have to remember Reiner kinda caused all of this to happen. Betrayed his friends. Now one of them is destroying the world

    • @clayongunzelle9555
      @clayongunzelle9555 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      @@remphz3321 you are forgetting what happened in Marley?? Reiner was never supposed to be on that mission in the first place. It's after one of them gets eaten he decides to take up the leadership role

    • @aximili113
      @aximili113 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@clayongunzelle9555 And according to everyone else from Marley, fucks it up even more.

    • @Patriarch.Chadimus
      @Patriarch.Chadimus ปีที่แล้ว +129

      ​@@clayongunzelle9555Which is what happens with Jean. Eren is presumably dead and Mikasa disappears in Trost. It's Jean who takes the reigns on a mission he never felt suited for. He wanted a cushy life on the interior. That's the difference between Reiner and Jean, despite their similarities. While Reiner wasn't supposed to be there, he had a spirit of wanting to be on the mission, whereas Jean never wanted to be on his. But while it broke Reiner, Jean ultimately rose to the challenge because at heart, he is a good man. For Reiner, it was too much to handle. But when Jean even has to do the same thing in Liberio, he pushes himself and succeeds where Reiner couldn't.

    • @clayongunzelle9555
      @clayongunzelle9555 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @@Patriarch.Chadimus Jean did have a mental breakdown after the rumbling when Hange talked to him through the window

  • @myparentsaredivorced4573
    @myparentsaredivorced4573 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    For some reason I hadn’t realized how heartbreaking Sawney and Bean’s death was, until remembering the context of humans being titans. Obviously Hange didn’t know, but that was the closest those titans have gotten to being treated as a human since they’ve been forced to wander Paradis for possibly decades.

  • @elzar5987
    @elzar5987 ปีที่แล้ว +904

    To me, Jean is the most level headed character in the show. More often than not he spouts out thoughts and ideas also shared by the viewer.
    Not quite an "every man" like in other shows (mainly comedies), but think he's the closest of all the characters.

    • @blazingbattlehawk9626
      @blazingbattlehawk9626 ปีที่แล้ว +102

      He's the only person who realized the Rumbling wasn't black and white. Everyone else says it's evil or its good. He saw it foe what it was. A terrible thing but also the only way to ensure Eldias survival. He saw the Rumbling wasn't the tragedy, the real tragedy was that the outside world made it necessary

    • @megamillion5852
      @megamillion5852 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      @@blazingbattlehawk9626 I wouldn't say "necessary," but inevitable. Atrocities of that scale are never necessary, but are carried out with abject hatred or fear as a critical motivator, which in the pained world of Attack on Titan would be a damn near certainty.

    • @luclin92
      @luclin92 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ​@Mega Million as was said in the last episode it was the monster that was created from the hatred coming give it back. Its clearly shown that its a overreaction that came from being pushed up against a wall (whether there was a different option or not does not matter). Either way it's a atrocity on a scale that is unimaginable in the deaths and horror it creates

    • @thelegacyofgaming2928
      @thelegacyofgaming2928 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@megamillion5852 It was 100% necessary. The manga makes it clear that Paradis is destroyed because Eren didn't finish the Rumbling. If he did nothing, Paradis would also get destroyed. There was only one way.

    • @thelegacyofgaming2928
      @thelegacyofgaming2928 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      It's even more obvious when you see how Eren constantly looks for a way out, but nobody comes up with anything and time is running out. Eren acted out of necessity. Do you honestly believe he WANTED to kill that kid Ramza?

  • @jeremyw.5729
    @jeremyw.5729 ปีที่แล้ว +588

    Things that stand out to me:
    > I love Jean's slow-burn character and how he really grows into the role over time.
    > I always thought it odd how they focused so much on Marco. I wondered If I missed something.
    > Does Korotos have something against "Call Your Name"? He snubs it every time while highlighting every other major piece!

    • @lunarluxe9832
      @lunarluxe9832 ปีที่แล้ว +158

      Marco just had so much potential, he rivaled Armin with his deduction but he got unlucky. If Marco was with them in the Female Titan arc and after, things would have gone much differently

    • @jeremyw.5729
      @jeremyw.5729 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      @@lunarluxe9832 Yeah, I feel like he just allowed Reiner and crew to capture him. He shouldn't have revealed that he understood what they were talking about.

    • @tofferooni4972
      @tofferooni4972 ปีที่แล้ว +171

      The focus on Marco is meant to emphesize how much potential he had and how, to quote Jean "Not everyone has a dramatic death" and also shows how a person can leave an effect on others even after they die, to quote Erwin, "Its up to the living to find meaning in the deaths of those before them." At the time, Marco's death seemed meaningless, but as time went on, both the characters and the audience found meaning in his death.

    • @Kairac112
      @Kairac112 ปีที่แล้ว +115

      Marco was also important because he is the first character in the story to suggest diplomacy - talking about it. An optimist and pacifist at heart, was clearly never going to survive in AoT.

    • @sumadre101
      @sumadre101 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      I also think Jean and Marco were meant to have some sort of strong connection that went under the radar, making his death a huge part of his character dev

  • @E1025
    @E1025 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    All of Erwin's searching for the mole and the strategies he was using completely went over my head. Your videos are like rewatching the show through sharper eyes

  • @melodicomen777
    @melodicomen777 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Something I noticed in the video I didn't see anyone point out.
    You stated that Reiner, Bert, & Annie would have known what the Attack Titan's power was.
    They wouldn't have.
    The Attack Titan was lost for a very long time and nobody knew what it did. That's why it was such a huge shock to Zeke when he found out after taking Eren to the Paths. Considering that Zeke is even older than the trio and he didn't even know. They wouldn't have known.

    • @Koroto
      @Koroto  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I don't remember exactly what you're referring to (I've been rambling about aot for hours now 😅), but if you're referring to what I think you are, I didn't mean the power of seeing future memories - I meant seeing the memories of past wielders (which is universal for all titans, aka Eren might see something from the outside world) and just the power of being a titan shifter is also something they are obviously aware of.

  • @ignotaskatkus7685
    @ignotaskatkus7685 ปีที่แล้ว +428

    If think that the Wall Religions primary purpose is to make the Paradis less prepared for an invasion of Titans. I think it was created by Karl Fritz to assure that the walls were treated as divine things amongst his people, which would hamper any military uprages on the walls, as well as prevent people from trying to research them and finding out the titans sleeping inside

    • @jagnestormskull3178
      @jagnestormskull3178 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      And also, UriKarl seemed to have formed quite a large underground cult just around him, so it's quite possible that the Order of the Walls is the public extension of that.

    • @michaelgillespie9112
      @michaelgillespie9112 ปีที่แล้ว

      One of many reasons I personally hate Karl Fritz. Seriously, I get you felt bad for what happened in the past, but setting your people up to be genocide 100 years from now is stupid, because anyone who actually committed those crimes are long dead, and now we have a group of people who have to pay for the actions of people who are long dead, with no knowledge of what they have even done.
      Fuck Karl Fritz

  • @originaozz
    @originaozz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    The scout recruitment scene solidified my love for Jean. He's not blindlessly brave like Eren, but he also can't throw away the responsibility when truth hits him in the face. That Erwin speech was both epic and calculating.

  • @Ziggerath
    @Ziggerath ปีที่แล้ว +141

    11:26 i think what that says isn't that the scouts didn't learn anything that no one else already knew, It was that MOST if not all the info everyone has about the titans probably came directly from Hanji's experiments and that info is only common knowledge because of her.

  • @decafjava8565
    @decafjava8565 ปีที่แล้ว +148

    Wow! First time I heard about the Sawney and Bean story being based on an actual legend. Isayama gets more and more of my respect.

    • @Mhairixo
      @Mhairixo ปีที่แล้ว +5

      From Scotland here! It’s a legitimate historical incident involving cannibals! Sawney bean is the focus of a lot of our museum exhibits

  • @clayongunzelle9555
    @clayongunzelle9555 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    Still can't get enough of this story

    • @dontaylucero
      @dontaylucero 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I just finished it and now I'm watching these type of videos to get my fix

  • @maxamps45
    @maxamps45 ปีที่แล้ว +162

    Erwin standing on top of a mountain of corpses because he sacrificed them all to get what he wants. and Floch carried the wounded Erwin, Floch is crushed underneath a mountain of corpses as he struggles under the weight of being the only one trying to give his comrade's deaths meaning.

    • @SomeYouTubeTraveler
      @SomeYouTubeTraveler ปีที่แล้ว +61

      Floch is a child tragically lost in the forest, as Mr. Braus would say.
      Revenge doesn't give meaning to the dead. It only creates more dead, and more people seeking revenge.
      It's a subversion of the classic game theory, where you and another unseen person each have a button, and you cannot communicate. If one presses it, that one lives and the other dies. If you both don't press it, you both die. Marley and Paradis in a nutshell.
      The only way to "win" that game (a.k.a. survive) is to disregard the other and be the boldest and fastest one to press the button. This is how Floch, Eren, and Willy Tybur opted to see the game. Problem is... life is not a game, or some hypothetical, doomed scenario in which communication truly is impossible.
      In reality, on the scale of the endless cycle of revenge, the true way to "win" is to save both lives, by denouncing whatever power set up the "game" of warfare and hatred and _force_ your prohibited communication to happen. Open avenues of dialogue and refusal to create or give in to propaganda is the only thing that reminds both sides that they are both human, and that they _can_ survive together.
      Past deaths are given meaning by denouncing _more death,_ not by giving death to others. Yes Floch is crushed but he has crushed _himself,_ by trying to shoulder Erwin's mountain of corpses, instead of letting them go in peace like Levi.

    • @t-ro6176
      @t-ro6176 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@SomeTH-camTravelerthe thing you seem to forget is that Marley is always gonna try to kill and talking is never ever gonna work. They want paradise to be the big bad so they can wipe the dirt of their past actions. All this moral crap means absolutely nothing if the people trying to kill you won’t give you a chance to talk.
      But let me ask you a question since floch is a child to you. What would’ve happened to paradise if eren died by gabi’s shot?

    • @SomeYouTubeTraveler
      @SomeYouTubeTraveler 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@t-ro6176 Of course Marley is "always gonna try and kill," but that doesn't mean _at all_ that talking is a useless endeavor that can't achieve peace. "Talk is useless" is the lazy, self-centered stance of those who are afraid of dying before that peace is achieved, unwilling to sacrifice their lives for the longer goal of a lasting peace. "Kill everyone who opposes you and let the next generation deal with the revenge, cause I'll be dead by then" is the hallmark of colonialism and pretty much every war and genocide ever, which is why Eren is the bad guy just as much as Marley.
      As long as any percentage of people within two groups are diametrically opposed to each other's existence, which is a real-world thing, the only way to keep everyone alive is either an entirely successful genocide (which is evil to the core and also essentially impossible) or eternally sorting out peace. It's hard, it's long, it takes struggle and sacrifice and compromise, but it defeats our animal instinct to kill each other and is the _only_ way to enable thriving lives for all sides.
      If Eren had died at Gabi's hand, his titans would've presumably passed to random Eldian newborns. Marley would likely fully invade the now-outmatched Paradis and either create a second concentration camp or drag everyone to the mainland. Either they'd get all nine back and continue their quest for world domination, or some resistance would rise up and steal a bunch of them and start another war, just like Marley did when Eldia was subjugating _them._ The cycle of violence would continue, someone would hate someone for merely existing, someone would gain the upper hand and dominate the other and commit atrocities that inspire vengeance in the next generation, and so on forever until _someone starts forgiving and compromising and enabling peace._
      War is easy and peace is hard. Don't advocate for the lazy side. Do the work for peace and save some lives.

  • @EseEsKaliman
    @EseEsKaliman ปีที่แล้ว +45

    People need to understand eren was basically pressured into doing what he did because of all the memories he gained in the past and future from the Titans power, all the pain and trauma put on him and he knows how it felt he couldn't let there be a possibility of the people he loves going through that. Marley declaring war on paradis was the final straw.

    • @misanthropicservitorofmars2116
      @misanthropicservitorofmars2116 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That he gave himself. Eren set all that up using the founding titans power. I’ve seen hundreds of comments tonight, it’s weird how many flat out incorrect takes I’ve seen.
      Eren was the one who put those memories in his own head. He was the one who manipulated events in the past so he reaches this point.

    • @MrTakin00
      @MrTakin00 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He can only manipulate subjects of Ymir. Got lucky on any non subject reacted to his manipulation
      ​@@misanthropicservitorofmars2116

  • @EbonySeraphim
    @EbonySeraphim ปีที่แล้ว +91

    21:30 - no one except for the Attack Titan knows that the Attack Titan can access every other memory, past, and future. Thus the fear of what this could mean for Eren to be the Attack Titan to Reiner, Annie, and Bertolt isn’t clear. Even Eren didn’t know he had and exercise this ability at this point.

    • @Koroto
      @Koroto  ปีที่แล้ว +47

      I didn't mean future memories there. Every shifter (not only the Attack titan) inherits some memories of past wielders, so what I was referring to here is that Eren could learn of Marley through, for example, Grisha's memories - a fact that Reiner should be aware of.
      On top of that, the Attack titan, even though its ability wasn't fully understood, was still lost by Marley and is clearly worth recapturing, which is exactly what we'd see even before they learn that Eren also has the founder.

    • @EbonySeraphim
      @EbonySeraphim ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Koroto my bad. I didn’t know that; all Titan shifters can access the memories of their past owners?
      I guess the only thing further is that “can” doesn’t mean much if they have no concept of how to do it, how to understand it, and what it means.

    • @Vokunkiin
      @Vokunkiin ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@Koroto Marley never controlled the Attack Titan though. They captured 7 of the nine.

    • @jagnestormskull3178
      @jagnestormskull3178 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      All Titan Shifters access memories of their Titan's past owners, and Marleyan Warriors would most certainly know that this would occur, and that Eren's memories of his predecessor (which they would have reasoned, based on War-Chief Zeke's knowledge, to be Eren's rebellious father Grisha) would almost certainly make him a security risk, since no Titan Shifter had ever appeared on Paradis before.
      Ymir (Scout)'s successor with the Jaw also has some memories belonging to Ymir (Scout), and hates Reiner for pretending to be like the Jaw's brother.

    • @Zaydub
      @Zaydub ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@EbonySeraphim the difference is the attack titans can send future memories to past wielders

  • @GreatSageSunWukong
    @GreatSageSunWukong ปีที่แล้ว +94

    How does Levi's cleanliness undermind his duty as a soldier? its OCD, OCD is a manifestation of anxiety, being a neet freak is often a type of self soothing, he can't control the world but he can control how clean and tidy the castle is, it gives him some control in in his life, the only control he really has especially since he joined the scouts against his will unlike the rest of them, join the scouts or hang.

    • @iqbalindaryono8984
      @iqbalindaryono8984 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Don't lump OCD with anxiety in general, it undermines the severity of it. The fact that he can still function as a soldier, which would be in contact with a lot of filth, gore, and dirt, is a sign that it's not OCD. Rather a sign that he highly values cleanliness.

    • @NEverglade
      @NEverglade ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@iqbalindaryono8984 ocd is an anxiety disorder, it isn't the same as ocd but it is an offshoot of it. The ways people cope with it (self soothing such as skin picking, cleaning, or other manic behaviors) is the way the brain copes with it.

    • @ukiyoomi
      @ukiyoomi ปีที่แล้ว

      @@iqbalindaryono8984especially because he grew up in the underground!!

  • @imthebestmayne122
    @imthebestmayne122 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    This might be controversial, but I would have loved to see how the story would have played out if it was Erwin who received the Colossal Titan instead of Armin.

  • @jordynabel5549
    @jordynabel5549 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    the number of times i've rewatched this show and im just understanding erwin's plan from the begining

    • @icomeinpeace3756
      @icomeinpeace3756 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Youre not alone 😭😭. Can't count how many times I watched season 1 through 3 and now I'm truly seeing the greatness of Erwin

    • @ForeverTraitor
      @ForeverTraitor 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I don't blame you, it's not until much later where we get the flashback of Erwin's father theorizing that the government has the ability to rewrite memories. And he realised as a child that the government were covering up any inquiries into whether there were other people beyond the walls.
      Jump forward in time to Shiganshina, and two titans display intelligence when breaching Wall Maria. Then further forward unto Trost and Eren's titan basically confirms that the Armoured and Colossal also have human forms.
      So Erwin can now be pretty certain that there are infiltrators from a people beyond the walls working to destroy them, and the government is not only aware of this, but refuse to take appropriate action against them and actively cover their existence up. Erwin's conclusion is that the infiltrators have to be exposed and the government overthrown if humanity within the walls is to have any chance of survival.

  • @recarras
    @recarras ปีที่แล้ว +90

    Reiner and Berthold knew that Eren had the Attack on Titan, but they are looking for the Founding Titan, so they still need information . They learned that he also had it long afterwards.

  • @hessiankyojin
    @hessiankyojin ปีที่แล้ว +91

    Wonder if that cannibalism story from Hange is somewhat related to Titans, or at least during the time of Before the Fall or The Great Titan War.

    • @crowsenpai5625
      @crowsenpai5625 ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably related to how the first king had had his daughters eat their mother, and they perpetuated that though generations to keep the Titan power passed down. A long history of cannibalism.

    • @idonhaveanyideawhattocallm1472
      @idonhaveanyideawhattocallm1472 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nope, just some hungry Scottish family

    • @hessiankyojin
      @hessiankyojin ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@idonhaveanyideawhattocallm1472 Scottish in AOT?
      AOE CONFIRMED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @kriet7745
    @kriet7745 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I know I may be 3 weeks off, but if there is one thing about Hange telling all her stories to Eren, is that Eren is a great listener.

  • @moejoesayson1933
    @moejoesayson1933 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I always thought of the early "silly anime" moments as peaks into their normal selves if they weren't in such stressful devastating circumstances. Sasha especially. So it never felt out of place for me

  • @tusharagarwal5306
    @tusharagarwal5306 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Our boy Erwin was already in season 4.

  • @ennard3866
    @ennard3866 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    When I was watching aot for the first time, I somehow didn’t noticed Ervin before the scene where he talks to Eren. And at that moment I thought “what a suspicious guy, maybe he is the one who killed this titans”. And when I was watching for the second time, I remembered this moment, it was so funny 😂, because this wasn’t even a mystery, maybe I’m the only one who got this thought, because no one should be thinking like this. 😂

  • @Outcastic
    @Outcastic ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I wish there were more scenes with eren doing things unrelated to fighting in his titan, Imagine him just grabbing a few small titans by the neck and bringing them back for testing.

    • @user.LCW01
      @user.LCW01 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah I always wondered why they never really did that 😭
      It would've been so useful
      Plus, it would've also been really funny just seeing Eren grab titans like they were toys like, "Ooh I want you. You have a long neck and your face looks funny"

    • @Outcastic
      @Outcastic ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@user.LCW01 or hange being on his shoulder and being like "that one, no wait, that one!"

    • @chuck600
      @chuck600 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@user.LCW01I'd turn into a 300m tall centipede and flatten 80% of the world just to see that animated, but the only period they would have time to do that is after Historia's coronation, as prior to that they were either busy or Eren couldn't consistently control his titan, and buly that point they already learned more than enough about the titans

  • @ibelieveingaming3562
    @ibelieveingaming3562 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    At the early story point when Sawney and Bean are killed I honestly thought it was just a fanatical soldier that slayed them in an emotional rage. I thought Erwin's "who is the enemy" question was referring to emotions being the enemy of progress.
    I love this show!

  • @biglion2317
    @biglion2317 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Saying that Marley "lost" the Attack Titan is- I believe- inaccurate (around 21:30). The Attack Titan never fell out of the hands of the Eldians

    • @davidcatabui2018
      @davidcatabui2018 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      More accurately, it was never controlled by any nation or government other than the Eldian Empire. For many years even before the Great Titan War, the wielder of the Attack Titan was secret even to the Eldian Empire

    • @misanthropicservitorofmars2116
      @misanthropicservitorofmars2116 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s the nature of the attack titan it seems. Constantly yearning for freedom.

  • @aydenross7605
    @aydenross7605 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I have yet to find a community that is as large and in love with the depth of the story as AOT is. It is my favorite story ever put onto paper and to see such a dedicated and passionate (as i am) creator you have gained my full support you shall see me in ur comments continueing forth :D

    • @vikingursigurdsson
      @vikingursigurdsson ปีที่แล้ว

      I hate to say it but FNAF would probably meet that criteria

  • @tyraine0419
    @tyraine0419 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Jean is definitely my favorite character in attack on Titan. I really like his courage throughout the series.

  • @neneninetails5803
    @neneninetails5803 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Fun drinking game. Every time Koroto talks about how great the music is, take a shot 😂
    The music is fantastic though lol

  • @blazingbattlehawk9626
    @blazingbattlehawk9626 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    One thing about the Sonny and Bean that I found very disappointing is that Isayama really should've added a detail where they were the names of the original King Fritz advisors who suggested his daughters eat Ymir. This would've been great foreshadowing and would break the odd detail of referencing a person in our world

    • @misanthropicservitorofmars2116
      @misanthropicservitorofmars2116 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wait? Why? What does that accomplish? You just want a coincidence shoved into the story?

    • @misanthropicservitorofmars2116
      @misanthropicservitorofmars2116 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It’s not foreshadowing. It would be cringe. They aren’t the advisers so naming them the exact same as some ancient advisors to a king? That sounds dumb. I’m glad you’re not in charge of creative decisions. Otherwise you’d be disappointing everyone.

  • @Jakepf
    @Jakepf ปีที่แล้ว +17

    It makes me really wonder what Erwin would've been like if he was still alive till present story

  • @GGTaino
    @GGTaino ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is a whole different anime when you watch it for a second time

  • @Darksightkellar
    @Darksightkellar ปีที่แล้ว +45

    I ...
    Honestly. I did *not* need to know that Levi is actually 160cm. I watch these videos for the awesome AoT dissection, not to be slapped with existential crisis. I don't know what to do now with my life.

    • @Mykhos
      @Mykhos ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Share and feel short king bro ✌️
      Like levi , young asta(black clover) and many others, let continue to kick ass and perform.

    • @Dot_1
      @Dot_1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I ... 🤓

    • @london8615
      @london8615 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      5’2 is crazy

    • @joelbalanzar1898
      @joelbalanzar1898 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      HIs smaller physique is probably what allowed him to go beyblade mode so well though

    • @eyesofthecervino3366
      @eyesofthecervino3366 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ​@@joelbalanzar1898
      Yup. Imagine other scouts trying to give him guff for being small, and he's just like, "Yeah, I'm sure your extra six inches are giving you a tremendous advantage going up against something the size of a building."

  • @Zero-dead-
    @Zero-dead- ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Marco was too wholesome to die...I feel sorry for reiner but I also hate him for killing him

  • @Gimbyo
    @Gimbyo ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Also, in the wide shot of the remaining soldiers, (25:08) Reiner and Bertholdt stick out. Reiner is really stoic and straight faced, like he feels honoured to be doing this, without any fear, (since he has nothing to be afraid of) and Bertholdt just looking sad, not like he's scared but rather like he knows he's gonna have to do something he doesn't want to.

  • @parthpatel6195
    @parthpatel6195 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I love your overanalyzing/retrospective videos on AOT, you put a lot of work and time into these videos and it definitely doesn't go unnoticed with all of them!

  • @shep8745
    @shep8745 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS MAN!
    THIS IS THE GREATEST SHOW OF ALL TIME AND YOU ARE DOING IT JUSTICE WITH THESE REVIEWS!
    🔥🔥

    • @imkaneforever
      @imkaneforever ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Greatest show of all time? You're absolutely right.

  • @codyallen43
    @codyallen43 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    I'll probably get a lot of flak for this, but I think Erwin should have been brought back over Armin. Armin dying would have really solidified Eren's hatred for the enemy outside the walls and further "justified" his actions and Erwin honestly just would have been a much better commander and better handled the entire situation than Hange and Armin have, although that's obviously just speculation.

    • @user-de3cp6mf1d
      @user-de3cp6mf1d ปีที่แล้ว +30

      I agree. As much as I love Armin, I think Erwin is a better choice strategially. But I guess Amin has plot armor

    • @Kaiwalski
      @Kaiwalski ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Here’s the thing though Erwin’s motivation was to learn the truth about everything. To do this he used extremely brutal and uncaring tactics that brought success alongside a massive loss in soldier count. He was a devil that was considered necessary in taking back the walls and he did it all for the basement basically. Levi makes the choice because he knows Erwin doesn’t deserve to see the truth in the basement, he dies within arms reach of it but has to be content knowing others will reach it. Should Erwin have been revived he would have gotten exactly what he wanted and after that it is my belief at least that after his selfish desires are gone he might not serve the greater interests of the scouts.

    • @someordinarydude9147
      @someordinarydude9147 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@Kaiwalski I don't often pass judgement on others opinions regarding shows but this is so wrong I had to say something. Horrible take, if you truly believe this you must have been on your phone while watching and missing 90% of the story.

    • @dakotatrue12
      @dakotatrue12 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      ​@@Kaiwalski And Armin and Erens motivations were to see the world outside the walls. After that happened (and they were disappointed by what existed outside the walls), they still carried on and continued doing what they believed in. Erwin would be no different. Everyone has motivations, "selfish" or otherwise. But the reality is, people are more complex than that. If they truly care about the people around them (as Erwin does), he wont just stop helping just because he reached his goal.

    • @polinapilyar3192
      @polinapilyar3192 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@dakotatrue12 yeah it wade sence at the time. We assume that Armn's motivation would have brought them further. But ultimately sea was just next corner. I don't think that Armin grew up to fulfill what was expected of him. But I guess it's real life for you - sometimes you make wrong choices

  • @e443productions9
    @e443productions9 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Episode 16 is one of my favorites honestly, and it’s quite underrated but it’s so good!

  • @paulaye5971
    @paulaye5971 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    i would watch a whole series of AOT analyzing, pls do more

    • @Koroto
      @Koroto  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That’s the plan! Next one drops this weekend/early next week!

  • @teamyne9987
    @teamyne9987 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Needed this, currently on a rewatch before the new release

  • @jagnestormskull3178
    @jagnestormskull3178 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    What do you see here? - Do you see two decaying Titans, or two decaying chances for the People of the Walls to gain knowledge? The answer is both, and something else entirely.
    Who do you think the real enemy is? - Is it the Titans, or something else? The answer is the people outside the Walls, which a season three flashback shows that Erwin already believed to exist when _he was a Cadet._
    Never mind, just ignore me. - An implicit order to keep quiet about the discussion, especially to outsiders. A show of the division between the Scouts and the MPs/Central Government, which comes into play at various points in season one, but more heavily in season three.
    Three sentences underscored by music that seems to depict Erwin as a Biblical prophet bringing some apocalyptic revelation define one of the most brilliant moments, not just in season one, but *also in the entire series.*

  • @josesosa3337
    @josesosa3337 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Damn. Its crazy seeing how smart Erwin is. I might add more.
    1. Intimidate the recruits to make sure the spies join the scouts and thin out potential suspects.
    2. Use Eren as bait.
    3. Make eren is a bigger target by pointing out how eren has a key to the basement which will reveal the secret of titans.
    4. Highlight the shiganshina excersise to lure out the spies to take eren.
    When i saw aot for the first time I just assumed Erwin was laying all the cards on the table to make sure the recruits were dedicated and knee what was at risk. On multiple rewatches eveything becomes so much more clear.

  • @FuneralProcession
    @FuneralProcession ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Scouts headquater outside the wall, the Utrecht castle and more buildings are from before the walls came to be aka more than 100 years old.

  • @elev3n327
    @elev3n327 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    21:34 The widely known ability of the attack titan amongst the marley military is that always fights for freedom. its sectet ability to access p future memories is revealed by grisha to the founder frieda reiss, who didnt ecen know about this ability so its close to assume that only the inheritors know about this hidden ability.
    grisha even argues that the ability of future memories helps the attack titan to stand against the selfish and obsessive actions made by the founder (something like that)

  • @shia2308
    @shia2308 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    this is my life now, watching these videos.

  • @TheKrimzonGuard
    @TheKrimzonGuard 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    21:55 That map is extremely not-to-scale -- look at the 250/130/100 km radii measurements -- so it's far more reasonable to estimate the size of Shiganshina from the aerial views we're given. Even so, a town of just 5,000 - 50,000 people is functionally impossible for the Marley trio to search

  • @crumpscrumbs
    @crumpscrumbs ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You are a gift to this world man ❤

  • @leafjonin7
    @leafjonin7 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Me personally , I think the Titans are light because they have the mass of the person spread out. Partially woven with Titan energy the lightning. My odd excuse.

  • @filiptrajkovski2198
    @filiptrajkovski2198 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It takes a couple days to a week to get to shiganshina. Therefore i think if Berthold and Rheiner went missing for a week, they would arouse suspicion and probably be branded as traitors for running which would put a big stopper to their plan

  • @duran99adam
    @duran99adam ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Do you think the new recruited scouts also got really lack luster combat training from the Scouts because Erwin knew they were already well trained?
    And if so it would mean sacrificing most of the newely recruited scouts just to pinpoint who was that skilled?

    • @Woad_Brah
      @Woad_Brah ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I doubt that was his intention, I think he just wanted to deploy his formation as quickly as safely possible to minimize sabotage by the Marley operatives

  • @DepravedSluggy
    @DepravedSluggy ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm so glad you exist to analyse and convey all the findings you uncover for each episode. I am horrible at explaining things, finding deep connections, and researching so this channel really helps me out to really understand the things at play in the show. I can't wait for the episodes to come and see just how much I've missed despite watching the show so many times on my own and through reactors. Keep up the amazing work!

  • @IKWavyy
    @IKWavyy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I was watching aot and this sound track came on 0:00 I was always gassed and ready!! In the second season!! I REMEMBER CLEARLYYYY😩😮‍💨

  • @jchuck1737
    @jchuck1737 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Marco was such a hidden character. Like who was this guy and why does everyone care about him so much?

  • @antoniobent379
    @antoniobent379 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been waiting for a video to speak on this specific topic for a while now. Looking forward to it

  • @manda73
    @manda73 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really recommend that everyone watch all the OVAs. They explain some things, add to world building and bring you closer to characters you might not have noticed before :)

  • @user-lz1yb6qk3f
    @user-lz1yb6qk3f ปีที่แล้ว +4

    With this tempo we wont see the end of this series in another 5 years.

    • @anshuuu9708
      @anshuuu9708 ปีที่แล้ว

      It will end soon, sooner than March 2024.

  • @FreddoTheGeddo
    @FreddoTheGeddo ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I waiting for an upload, I love these videos :) Keep it up!

  • @icomeinpeace3756
    @icomeinpeace3756 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow I've watched seasons 1 through 3 multiple times and I never tied that Erwin did indeed suspect the enemies were in the new recruits. Wow. Totally gained a new found respect for Erwin lol.

  • @costelinha1867
    @costelinha1867 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    And is now Eren who's falling into the endless abyss of her stories.
    Hey, come'on, the least the scouts could do is be supportive to their autistic friend, and let Hanji info-dump on her Titan Special Interest.

  • @DourFlower
    @DourFlower ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hold the FUCK up youtube didnt notify me of this but thankfully the mystery shack is always in my top subscription list so I saw the little blue dot

  • @dreemurrprince
    @dreemurrprince 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i still thoroughly believe that if you remove erwin’s genius, the scouts would stand no chance against the warriors even in season 1 and 2. His desperate and risky but calculated plans were almost the entire reason the warriors were exposed to exist with annie, and even with the power utilized by the stronger soldiers, speren among them, they NEEDED that strong leadership to know how to fight this enemy.
    anyway this was just me gushing about bushy eyebrows-win nice video

  • @Gvern100
    @Gvern100 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank god. The most uploads the better!!! Best analysis on AoT on the platform

  • @ji30019hq
    @ji30019hq ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love this series. Keep up the excellent work!

  • @sorryjordi
    @sorryjordi ปีที่แล้ว

    I love watching all your overanalyze videos out of order

  • @Umn911
    @Umn911 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Eren felt betrayed by his own, He himself could have ended titans with his power. Mikasas headaches were a cause of her voiding off the end goal eren wanted. At the end he was tired of being used as a weapon by humans, and trapt in a loop of them choosing unknown humans over his happiness

  • @Its_A_Gundam
    @Its_A_Gundam ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Its not a matter of what Ervin meant, its a matter of how much he knew

  • @faraday8280
    @faraday8280 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Aot does take place in our time, a great hint is the "From you 2000years form now" yumir is a girl that gets inslaved about 0000

    • @davidcatabui2018
      @davidcatabui2018 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a little earlier, Marley as the dominant world power has World War 1 era technology pretty much, so Ymir would have been enslaved roughly 80BC

  • @Eren_Yeager_is_the_GOAT
    @Eren_Yeager_is_the_GOAT ปีที่แล้ว +1

    since season 3 part 2 Erwin was always my favorite character from aot

  • @angelo8606
    @angelo8606 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    21:54 Lol you can't use the info card illustration to measure the size of the district, it's clearly not to scale. The districts aren't more than 1 or 2 km2.

    • @BarackObamaJedi
      @BarackObamaJedi ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah wtf how does he not question his calculations? A relatively small medieval city as big as 5x LA? Lol

  • @oJaymey
    @oJaymey ปีที่แล้ว

    love videos like these all these lilttle deatails i never noticed all those years ago

  • @xstro.arts22
    @xstro.arts22 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2:46 Eren Jaeger is actually in Fortnite at the time you're probably watching this.

  • @enumaelish8247
    @enumaelish8247 ปีที่แล้ว

    People focus too much on the fancy question of "who do you think the enemy is" but at this point anyone can figure he's refering to shifters inside the walls, the real question that Eran was asked is the first one, "what do you see here" that's the real thing Erwin is asking, because he knows its deliberate sabotage, he doesn't know if it's the shifters or the government, but the implication is that someone inside the walls wants to stop the scouts from achieving their goal. It's massive foreshadowing for what happens in the next few seasons.

  • @HighOverlordSnarffieBeagle
    @HighOverlordSnarffieBeagle ปีที่แล้ว

    this is the show that I point out when someone asks me if anime is any good, I'm older than most anime watchers so most people I talk to either have never watched anime or have only ever seen some bullshit from Pokemon at some point or another

  • @kutkuknight
    @kutkuknight ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is so good, holy shit Isayama is a GOD tier writer

  • @gabrielnascimento7718
    @gabrielnascimento7718 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great video bro. Thanks!!

  • @ananya9385
    @ananya9385 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the amount of love Jean is showed in the comment section 😭😭😭😭😭😭

  • @twinzzlers
    @twinzzlers ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh, I think Eren saying Hange's stuff was in his training was sarcasm.

  • @ahmadmuhammadadamu7314
    @ahmadmuhammadadamu7314 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Slight correction: you said the attack titan was lost by Marley and they were trying to retrieve it. Throughout the generations, the AT had never fallen in Marleyan hands.

  • @Melyourmann
    @Melyourmann ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In my heart I know Erwin knew the enemies! And went my mind realized is true I faquink fall in ❤ ❤ amazing obra!!

  • @JustSK37
    @JustSK37 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I actually think Levi's cleanliness outlines him as a soldier.

  • @trevortorbeck2910
    @trevortorbeck2910 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have thought since the revel of Marco’s fate I have thought. What happens if Marco doesn’t die

  • @lukaslambs5780
    @lukaslambs5780 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ONE HOUR PREMIER FRIDAY LET’S GOOOOO!!!!!!!

  • @vinigmoura
    @vinigmoura 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We heard a little bit about the mines and the gas in the island, but we never saw the mines or how their equipment are produced. How could they be so intricate? Theres no industries or factories on the island, are they handmade?! Is there an answer for that somewhere and I lost?

  • @andreslosada559
    @andreslosada559 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Erwin would’ve found a way other than the rumbling and/or war

  • @benij2431
    @benij2431 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Watching this video all but confirmed for me that Armin was the bad choice

  • @smokingunstudios6474
    @smokingunstudios6474 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can’t even tell you how much I look forward to these uploads

  • @peezieforestem5078
    @peezieforestem5078 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Chika-tilo" is the correct pronunciation, and he was a Soviet serial killer, born in Ukrainian SSR, but murdering in Russian SFSR and Uzbek SSR as well.

  • @merentori
    @merentori ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hip hip, hooray!

  • @xXLilSmurthXx
    @xXLilSmurthXx ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, but was totally expecting a different kind based on the title.

  • @1976jdk
    @1976jdk 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think a pothole is who made Yimer's titan form If they have to be made in the paths someone had to make the first one. Did she have to make her own the first time and if so how did she know it would work?

  • @ziioncarrick6168
    @ziioncarrick6168 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There's a mod for project zomboid that has its main picture being levi cleaning with windex

  • @marcusp8149
    @marcusp8149 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant breakdown! Thanks!

  • @MrSillySalamander1
    @MrSillySalamander1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is it possible that when ever armine is the narrator that it’s actually him as the hero recalling the info to the 20% of the population left? Probably not but it’s an interesting idea I just thought of baked out my brain.

  • @octolinggrimm6387
    @octolinggrimm6387 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The districts are _not_ that big. In the bird's-eye view of the Walls they are nowhere close to the size on your diagram. Remember that a lot of diagrams of the Walls are inaccurate, especially in the earliest seasons.

  • @salahlamsaoub7753
    @salahlamsaoub7753 ปีที่แล้ว

    18:10 Ah yes, the dynamic is very dynamic