Personally, I would love a full Virus deck, but that might just be me. It is interesting that you mentioned Different Dimension Dragon, since Kaiba is also the first duelist to use Dimension Fusion as well as Soul Absorption. Also, in the Pyramid of Light movie, both his duels had him use strategies built around Return from the different Dimension. So yeah, please an actual D.D. deck. It would also help with getting out Jet Iron, which is currently quite difficult. Also I don't like the other D/D deck or the guy who played it.
Clearly joey is the most influential duelist as everyone who doesn't buy a structure deck makes his deck style of putting whatever you got around until you hit 40.
Actually, I’m thinking it would be fun if we had more cards that rewarded filling your starting deck with the full 60. I’m thinking something like… _Age of Abundance_ Spell Card _Can only be activated only if you have more cards in your main deck than your opponent. For the rest of this Duel, apply the following effects._ _⚫️During the end phase of each player’s turn, you gain 100 LP for every card in your Hand and Main Deck._ _⚫️Once per turn, during either player’s turn, you can shuffle 1 card from your GY or Banishment into your deck._ _⚫️Once per turn, you can Shuffle 1 card from your hand into your deck: Draw 1 card._ _You can shuffle this card and 1 other card from your Hand, Field, GY and/or Banishment into your deck; For the rest of the turn, any cards that would be Banished or sent to your GY (From your hand, deck and/or field) are shuffled into your deck instead._
@@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire I mean...I dont see why not,I think Konami is scare of making s you know...a card like grass,I mean I am also scare of grass and this time is not even real grass
@@hellkaiser1366 Well Grass simply dumps the difference into your GY. MY approach with the above custom card is meant to actively reward you for _having and maintaining_ that difference.
Fun fact, in the Arc-V anime, there is a character who used a La Jinn archetype deck. He only appeared for a few episodes, but it was still nice to see that.
@@briarbarfield5809 Makes sense, mostly Zexal characters are just one-offs until we get to the big bosses such as Vector, Eliphas, Don Thousand and Nasch. Arc-V just had a good intention with it's backstory and characters but it blew it when it spent too much time in the Synchro Dimension.
@@mystery8820 Hey, I retrained Mystic Horseman and Wicked Worm Beast to be Beast Warriors... I even just thought up a Doom Virus Dragon retrain for laughs: Rabid Beast Swordstalker Lv. 5 Rabid Virus Dragoon Rank 5 3 level 5 "Rabid" Monsters It's partially a gag but I do have a new Virus card to along with it: Bestial Beserker Virus
I think the main reason that kaiba has less support is because bewd is more popular than dark magician. And that yugi's deck was always a collection of cards, 3 knights, 3 magnets, 2 chimera, 2 card combo for gaia knight fusion. While kaiba is usually just 1 offs. It's easier to make a card when the concept for them working together is already there. But there are so many cards that kaiba used that would be amazing for an archetype, battle ox, vorse raider, kaiser glider, la jinn, saggi the dark clown. Yugi also had one offs, but those were usually a boss monster, while kaiba had only 1 boss monster.
Don't forget Ryu - Kishin Powered. I can see both he and Saggy being Virus searcher cards if they were restrained. But knowing Kaiba, he would probably have a New Virus card that would target the extra deck.
I think it's two reasons. Kaiba had way fewer duels than Yugi since he wasn't the protagonist, and as a result he had less opportunities to show off different cards that could have been made into different archetypes. Also, he's devoted to blue-eyes, and the relatively fewer duels he's in compared to Yugi all end up having to feature blue-eyes somehow. As a result writing duels where he's using different archetypal cards would conflict with his characterization.
A Swordstalker archetype that shows how Duos (Egyptian Preist Seto's Ka who never got a card equivalent) became the Swordstalker would be an awesome archetype in terms of anime fanservice.
while not like purely virus cards, the "Lair of Darkness" cards (Darkest Diabolos, and the Ladies of Lament as well) are designed to work in-tandem with the virus cards as a dark-attribute, low-attack, tribue focused deck that gets advantage for using the viruses and makes using them super easy, even using the initial tribute of a virus as removal in some cases due to the lair's effect so yeah, i'd say that Viruses got a full deck themselves, albeit the Lair of Darkness stuff *thematically* is distant to viruses, their actual playstyle is designed for them
14:00 Attack Guidance Armor was remade into Krystal Avatar in DSOD to go along with his Krystal Dragon that is used to support his Dragon-with-a-lot-of-BEWD Deck he uses in the movie.
Some fun facts about some of Kaiba's decks: Blue-Eyes: There's some argument to be made for Blue-Eyes to actually be a counterpart to Buster Blader, at least in the modern day; Reason being that both decks have support that spins them off outside of their associated character. Buster Blader has its own standalone story where it sets off and raises a baby dragon, while Synchro Blue-Eyes focuses on what I'd call the Religion with Eyes of Blue, where the Sages and their beacon, Maiden, communicate with what seem to be dragons that have a divine air to them. Unlike the Fusion/Kaiba themed Blue-Eyes where it simply focuses on how Blue-Eyes is as a force. A-to-Z: A to Z isn't just a standalone deck; it's become the entire face of the Union mechanic as a whole, with each new Union support designed to support A to Z more than any other adjacent deck. Thunder Dragon: The design space around TD as an archetype isn't actually related to the anime at all, but rather the TCG. Thunder Dragon was design with a heavy Chaos synergy in mind because back in the day, Thunder Dragon was the best card to discard to the GY to fuel monsters like BLS and Chaos Sorcerer. The discard effects make sense since that's how the OG TD works, but the banish and sent to GY effects, and even their attributes are based on how they were used in the old Chaos decks.
This man uploading is legit the highlight of a day. Love the breakdowns and I appreciate the updates on shorts for the smaller stuff like new TCG releases
I’m surprised you didn’t mention the Material Archetype used by Kaiba in the Yugioh R Manga. Basically they’re a bunch of mechanical animals that function similar to the A-Z archetype. Their boss monster (Mosaic Manticore) was released as a standalone card, but I’d definitely be down if they made the rest of the archetype along with a retrain of Manticore.
R had a lot of potential for decks. Reiko's chess pawn deck would be cool and that was the first time I ever saw Machina deck too. Also need that Wicked God support
@triforceofcourage100 Yu-Gi-Oh! R was a spin-off manga where Pegasus' son seeks vengeance on Yugi for his father's death by using the Wicked God Cards, evil equivalents of the Egyptian Gods.
13:38 & 13:48 Rude Kaiser referenced TWICE; that is definitely nice and not rude. Also, La Jinn and Gargoyle Powered, very cool. Yes, we would like to see a Joey assessment.
In Canada we also generally say Zed, but I've been exposed so much like American media/things to where I cant help but say Z. I remember having a teacher get upset at me because of that lol.
@@benoliver5593 Oof that must be pretty odd, I remember having to do that in Elementary School as once again I say "z" instead of "zed". Not to mention I always would write certain words the "American" way as we also for some reason spell certain words differently like color/colour. But Canada is weird like that.
If there was a deck like Gold sarc for Kaiba that makes a modern deck out of his classic cards, I think an interdimension archetype would fit the bill nicely, a high attack beatdown strategy centered around banishing his and the opponent's monsters as cost for the boss monsters sounds like a kaiba strategy. Interdimensional dragon, interdimensional virus, Interdimensional liberation, all cards that could fit him to a T. Making his classic cards "Eyes of blue cards" can be a thing too. Btw, There not being a genie deck in yugioh kinda feels like sacrilege.
@@TrueReverse74 there was actually a small La Jinn archetype in Arc-V, used by a character whose design references Aladdin. He had La Jinn alongside a variety of Lamp cards, and had at least one fusion monster: combining La Jinn with Red Lamp created Fire Jinn, who had burn effects. I could see a variety of lamps and a La Jinn retrain that lets you go into different fusion monsters or maybe other summoning types. I could see a White Lamp that is a tuner to make a synchro genie.
tbh I want some recolors/ alternate art of dark magician support to have the red dark magician in it or an alternate archetype that show the story of the red dark magician (as an imitator or imposter)
I feel all the old dark magician adjacent traps like mirror force, spellbinding circle, magic hats, that one damage redirection one fit. As using them is more akin to illusions vs magic.
So Kaiba used “Thunder Dragon” too right? … Idea to make a “Thunder Dragon with Eyes of Blue”: _Thunder Dragon with Eyes of Blue_ (LIGHT) _Level 4_ _Thunder/Effect_ _While you control 2 or more face-up “Thunder Dragon” and/or “Eyes of Blue” monsters, this card’s name is always treated as “Thunder Dragon”, and as “Blue-Eyes White Dragon” while outside of your deck. You can discard this card; add up to 2 "Thunder Dragon" or “Eyes of Blue” monsters from your Deck to your hand. You can Banish this card from your GY; Special Summon up to 2 “Thunder Dragon” or “Eyes of Blue” monsters from your hand._ ATK/1500 DEF/1250
You made one mistake. It can be treated as thunder dragon in the deck. But it most definitely cannot be treated as blue eyes. If it is treated as blue eyes in the hand/field/graveyard, then that would work.
@@ked49 THERE, I reworked the effect so that it only treats itself as “Blue-Eyes White Dragon” while outside of your deck (and retuned the “Thunder Dragon” part to simply make it _always_ be treated as the OG T.D) while the prior mentioned requirements are being fulfilled.
I like how there are cards for certain archetypes that allow you to jam in a god card into the deck even if it doesn't synergize well. You have Thunderspeed Summon to summon Slifer in a King's Knight, Queen's Knight, and Jack's Knight deck. Granted, you can instead use Arcana Triumph Joker if you don't want to use Slifer. And you have Union Activation to summon Obelisk in an A-to-Z deck. Weirdly enough, you're really forced to use Obelisk or any other monster with 3000 or more ATK that can be tribute summoned because there are no in-archetype targets for the GY effect of Union Activation. Sadly, there doesn't seem to be a Ra counterpart to these cards. Marik's slime cards seem to have been made specifically to be played alongside the Ra support cards right from the get-go. I guess Marik didn't have an iconic trio of monsters that he consistently tributed to summon Ra, unlike Yugi and Kaiba.
And for thunder dragons, I have a thunder dragon/watt deck and have summoned Thunderstormech many times. The Watts and thunder dragons surprisingly work really well together
Guessing before watching after hearing the number. * Blue-Eyes * Machine Union (ABC-VWXYZ) * Virus traps (supported by Lair of Darkness) * Vampire (he used Vampire Lord in the virtual world)
There technically already is a Virus archetype, as the Virus trap cards are usually paired with the Dark monsters like Darkest Diabolos, Ahrima, Duke Shade, Diabolica, Tiakalel, and so on. The "Lady of Lament" monsters are also a big part of this archetype as well, as they tend to search the Virus trap cords; working directly with them and the field spell "Lair of Darkness". Since the Virus traps need to tribute Dark monsters, the effects of these other cards revolve around tributing Dark monsters and getting effects off that way. You could, theoretically, use the Virus cards in other Dark Trap-based decks like Labrynth, Eldlich, Dinomorphia, etc. But they tend to be paired with the Lair of Darkness cards and the Lady of Lament cards. I think this is because of the structure deck released many ears ago: Curse of Darkness. It had the original Diabolos, Lich Lord, and Prometheus who are also part of the Virus archetype, and it also had Crush Card Virus, Deck Destruction Virus, and Eradicator Epidemic Virus. So when Konami created these new Dark monsters revolving around tributing Dark monsters and using trap cards, I think the inspiration came from their old structure deck when they were all used together.
Ok I want to add onto that "Kaiser" theme you suggest at the end of the video. I'd love the series to be called the "Kaiser Core. Which can abbreviate to KC" A little reference to Kaiba's company, and it could turn all his monsters into a KC monster. Kinda like he copyrighted them. For example "Blue-Eyes Kaiser Core Dragon", "Kaiser Core Vampire Lord" etc.
Huge fan of Saggi the Dark Clown, I made a fan deck where the gimmick was it could triple it’s ATK every battle phase and make XYZ monsters that are unaffected if they have Saggi as material
Uh actually the Lair of Darkness monsters were originally meant to be virus support cards, for example “Lilith, Lady of Lament” sets herself to 1000 ATK and searches one of three released normal traps on normal summon, specifically setting up for crush card virus
@@power998 there also demon Kings with Japanese names that line up with the Japanese names of the viruses (the Japanese names of the virus are all “Deck Destruction Virus of [X]”) CCV: Lich Lord (Death) DDV: Diabolos (Demon) EEV: Prometheus (Darkness) FFV: Duke Shade (Shadow) GGV: Ahrima (Wickedness) Several of those are meant to support either the viruses directly or Lair of Darkness.
This is interesting for Kaiba, I would have guessed more for him, but it's surprising that it's so few. Joey's would be cool to see. Just going off memory I can think of 3, possibly 7, archetypes/decks that spawned from Joey's deck: Flame Swordsman, Red-Eyes, and Hermos, with possibities of Time Wizard/Baby Dragon, Gearfried, Gilford, and Landstar (though I believe most of the Landstar cards are Anime exclusive). Joey also uses a lot of chance/luck cards like Graceful Dice, Skull Dice, Roulette Spider, etc. So perhaps they could someday make that its own archetype sort of thing, maybe do that with the random Warriors and Beast-Warriors he has in his deck too. It would also be interesting if they could find a way to somehow get his Battle City Ante cards (Jinzo, Insect Queen, and Legendary Fisherman) all together in a deck/archetype, possibly with support for/with Warriors and Beast-Warriors, since he decided to actually use the Ante cards in his deck, at least for a little bit.
My guess as to why there's not as many decks spawn off for Kaiba like with Yugi is cause since his deck centers on getting Blue Eyes out, and the fact that Blue Eyes is basically Konami 's "Charizard" a cool dragon the kids love, they probably think they can just get away with making a ton of support for them and call it a day
Yugi had so many cards to build decks off of....magnet warriors, dark magician/girl, Gaia knight, black luster soldier.....so many other decks you can make off of those too makes a tough build as a whole
If we're talking retrains maybe we can get a retrained Blue-Eyes shining dragon like say Blue-Eyes Shining Ultima Dragon or Shining Nova Dragon. Design wise it would be the original Shining Dragon with anew position ATK 3000 DEF 2500 Effect wise pretty much since the cards came out before the movie did we can easily fix it. [Can't be normal summoned or Set can only be special summoned by tributing a Blue Eyes Ultimate Monster. Quick effect: This card can't be targeted by Spells Traps and Monster effects and its summoning can't be negated by card effects. This card gains 300 ATK for every dragon type monster in the graveyard. You can tribute this card and destroy every card on both players field. When this card goes to the grave via battle or card effect you can banish a blue eyes spell or trap from the grave to revive this dragon] This dragon would atleast be a great counter to hand traps and with an updated summoning cost you can use either Neo blue eyes ultimate regular OG Ultimate dragon Alternative Ultimate dragon and our newest Synchro ultimate dragon for its cost searching for it would be easier with the blue eyes search support. The effects mirror what it had in the movie and can make it stand up to the gods like the Movie novel for the pyramid of Light movie had stated and the subbed version of the film. We would finally get a better understanding of its final effect plus with a revival effect it can be revived.
Basically, Kaiba's deck branch is a "tall" build/improvements while Yugi's deck branch is a "wide" build/improvements. Wait, do YGO players even know what these terms means? Eh, whatever.
After remembering the digital world arc, I definitely think that a Judgeman archetype would be fun! We’d have a courtroom field spell with monsters representing lawyers, jurors, the defense and prosecutors and bailiffs.
You can think of the Crush Card Virus to have brought out a Lair of Darkness Virus deck, where they tribute your monsters for the Virus costs and use Lilith to add Virus cards to hand. However, if you have ever seen errataed Crush Card Virus used against Tearlament, you'll instantly understand how bad it is xD I've attempted to make a Timaeus deck before... and did summon Timaeus the Knight of Destiny on turn 1 using the Tearlament engine with Merrli legal, but it doesn't do anything beyond that. I think Vampire Lord isn't really a Kaiba card either. It's just a good card he used, just like Vampire Lord was used in "good stuff" decks in old Yu-Gi-Oh.
I'd be down to see Kaiba's beast-warriors turned into their own arctype. Vorse Raider, Rude Kaiser, Hitotsu-me Giant, and Battle Ox are some of his more prevalent cards and fit together well thematically. Could probably throw in Sword Stalker since he fits the bill pretty well. Maybe they're a battle focused fusion deck since Battle-ox has that one fusion, but maybe that'd be too similar to gladiator beasts, idk. I also feel like Blade Knight could be added to the eyes of blue series similar to Neo Kaiser Seahorse. It has a very fitting aesthetic, maybe it's canonically Protector with upgraded armor.
There is kind of a Virus deck or more an Archetype that heavily Supports them: Lair of Darkness. It heavily incentives tributing Dark Monster, gives you Tokens to tribute, One of its Monsters; Lilith, Lady of Lament even searches for Normal Traps and can get small enough to be used for Crush Card Virus, or be big enough to be used for Deck Devastation Virus. Its usually uses Virus cards as part of its deck. It even has a big Dragon as a Boss Monster Diabolos Lord of the Lair.
@ 8:44 Modern Retrain: Saggi the Viral Clown Attribute: DARK Type: Spellcaster Level: 3 Atk: 600 Def: 1500 Effect1: If this card battles a non-dark Monster, destroy that monster after damage calculation. Effect2: You can tribute this Monster, destroy all monsters your opponent controls and in their hand with attack equal or greater than 1500 and send them to the GY. _______________ It’s not much, but it is a retrain.
like a Kaiser deck could be all about tributing for monsters that get effects based apon what monsters where tributing/the amount were tributed! and the said tribute fodder gets effects once being tributed, so even if your opponent using Lava golem or Nibiru, your monsters effects go off!
I will say, while this isn't technically a "Kaiba card", as it was only used by Yugi during his duel against the fake Kaiba, Mystical Elf does have a retrained counterpart, Mystical Elf - White Lightning. It's essentially a hand trap version of Mystical Elf that can support Blue-Eyes. And we can technically consider it a Kaiba card if you count the "Gift of the Mystical Elf" card that Kaiba used.
Kaiba's odd monsters could be turned into a Little Yugi-esque archetype, where they support each other, rather than Konami coming up with a dozen different family decks. Atem's approach to duelling was always versatility, so there were a lot of combo cards and fusions to take inspiration from, but with Kaiba, it was the opposite; his strategy was always "summon big monster, everything else is fodder". Rare were the times you saw the same monsters in his deck that wasn't Blue-Eyes.
The only thing I can think about is the movie fusion of all 3 Egyptians gods with infinite attack but I think that was never made (for obvious reasons) @@deadsoul7409
@@deadsoul7409 Probably not. The Egyptian God archetype is notoriously bad with only one card seeing tournament use just to support a completely different deck
Technically there's "The Creator God of Light, Horakhty" but it got turned from a fusion into a main deck monster when it was made IRL. Just like Manjoume's LADD actually.
black eyes, Jinzo, Claw of Hermes, Gearfried, Gilford, Flame Swordsmen, Thousand Dragon. . . Joey has a few familiar favored cards. and i KNOW for a fact there is a Black-Eyes deck out there
9:28 the virus are so classic the last voice actor duel, using the virus after the pandemic I felt was cool for the nostalgia using Crush Card virus with Giant Germ, and Yugi’s defeating Kaiba with a new Exodia like that Exodia was the vaccine to kill and beat that Virus and the DUEL. Also the close thing to a virus deck would be the Lair of Darkness deck with the virus since Lilith play along as a searcher for normal trap cards
Thunder Dragon player here. The link monster, the two high-level main deck monsters (Dragonlord and Dragonduo) as well as the trap cards are pretty much never played. The link isn't that great compared to generic options, and the other cards don't mesh too well with the rest of the archetype on top of being quite bricky in a deck that can already have dead hands on occasion.
I think it would be cool if Battle Ox, Mystic Horseman, and Rabid Horseman got their own deck, something along the lines of Chimera King of Mythical Beasts.
Card idea: Alpha Activation Virus Card type: Trap Card Effect: Tribute a monster with 4000 or more ATK points, and if you do, create 5 0 Atk/0 Def Germ tokens, which cannot be used for the summoning of any extra deck monster or tributed except for the activation of a virus trap card. Then send this card to the graveyard and set five "Virus" trap cards with different names from your deck or hand to your side of the field. You may banish this card from your graveyard and change the ATK of four monsters you control to 500, 2000, 2500, and 3000 respectively, and the DEF of one monster to 2000. Also, any card sent from your opponent's hand, deck, or field to the GY because of a "Virus" trap is banished face down instead. You can only activate each effect of Alpha Activation once per turn.
I was about to type 'best Rollback target ever', but actually the fact that the Trap has to be sent to the GY to set the other Virus Traps means maybe not?
A "Virus Archetype" would get banned and crippled immediately. But yea, other characters deserve the "Golden Sarcophagus" treatment. The problem with Kaiba is that he doesn't have much going for aside from Blue-Eyes, Obelisk and maybe Critias. For Joey, he has the Red-Eyes, the Flame Swordsman, Gilford, Jinzo, Gearfried, Hermos and the "-with-chain" cards. Maybe he needs a "Lord of the Red" support. That duel with Valon was a fan favorite.
It would be cool if you did a vid on how many decks have the "Eyes" motif like Blue Eyes, Red Eyes, Galaxy Eyes or Odd Eyes. Kaiba doesn't have as many deck that have spun off into other archetypes, but he makes up for it in directly inspiring the creation of new archetypes or at least giving off influential vibes. Stuff like the Cyber Dragon or Galaxy Eyes are pretty on the nose off shoots of Blue Eyes in their own way.
In a sense, the Virus series does have support; the OCG-only structure deck Curse of Darkness (and to a greater extent, its "retrain", the Lair of Darkness structure deck) are informally themed around facilitating the use of Virus cards, with things like DARK monsters that can modulate their ATK stats to be viable tribute costs, cards to search and recur traps, and the titular Lair of Darkness field spell that makes all monsters DARK and lets you tribute your opponent's monsters for costs. Admittedly, though, none of it is support that references Kaiba.
Yugi’s new archetype was shiny sarcophagus that revolves around his iconic monsters that got some gold trim because they came from his box… What if Kiaba got a new enemy controller that operated the same way, where his new monsters where all the stuff he’s taken with enemy controller just given that blue eyes finish- The gimmick is that if you control the continuous spell power controller, you can tribute tribute your opponents monsters to special summon lv8 or higher monsters from your hand/gy or something like that… Or you can make a deck out of lajin the genie of the lamp but…would you really?
11:30 I would argue that, while the full fledged Vampire deck doesn’t feel like it fits Kaiba, Vampire Lord is definitely a Kaiba card. After all, Vampire Lord has a summoning animation in Duel Links that only Kaiba (DM) can activate. So, I think it would count towards his deck count.
I think La jinn and the lamp could be cool to spin off. Lot´s of stories/mythology to draw from. "hiding" the monsters in the spell/trap zone, jinns granting "wishes" for a cost, maybe wish tokens for effects? There is potential here.
If they made Kaiba himself and his own jet a monster card then there’s enough room for a dark clown, Genie, and maybe a “plague” or germ deck that’s supported by the virus cards. There’s also a “battle” arc that features beast-warriors with insane attack stats though the gladiator beasts already have that covered and I think the Danger! cards handle that well too. At the very least I think there should be more Critius and Hermos support cards just so they don’t feel too limited.
La Jinn archetype which revolves around "Mystical Genie" monsters being made immune by continuous spell "Lamp" cards on the field. Like Golden Lamp makes Mystical Genies immune to spell and trap effects. Silver Lamp prevents battle destruction. Bronze Lamp allows Genies to attack directly by giving up half their ATK for the turn. So on and so forth.
Saggi the Dark Clown would be such a dope archetype they could go for (probably just shorted it into dark clown). I imagine they'll be flip monsters so probably won't be that good but I'll enjoy an evil clown archetype anyways.
Had 0 idea about the interdimensipnal matter transporter retrain so thanks for that. Had that card in my old decks as a plan B to save stuff so it’s cool it’s got a newer version
I can only speak for myself, but I would love to see his little brother Mokuba, inspire some cards. Perhaps the Kaiser cards can be used as the base. But here's the idea for the arctype. It would revolve around a lower leveled monster being easily searched out from the deck, it could then go to the opponents side of the field, lock it down in a small way (like no link monsters can be summoned if they have arrows that would point towards that monster). Then you can summon bigger monsters and charge your opponent directly (ignoring what's on the field). Kind of plays with the old idea that Mokuba always gets kidnapped, and Kaiba has to rescue him/deal with who took Mokuba directly. Also TGSAnime (if you read this), here's an idea for a topic: what if in the original anime, we had gotten link monsters first, how would the game have evolved differently? Perhaps fusion, and link were changed? Like Polly would be needed to bring out a link (instead of a fusion). Just a fun idea lol
Honestly it's very on theme that there are basically no Kaiba decks vs Yugi's large number of archetypes spun off from his deck. Like Yugi's whole thing was incredibly creative strategies using a vast array of seemingly dissonant monsters, while Kaiba cared about having the strongest monsters possible and winning through singular, powerful monsters. Yugi gets a million decks, Kaiba's support keeps brute forcing Blue-Eyes.
So this is a case of quantity or quality. Yugi has spawned in more decks but 3 of the 4 kaiba decks you talked about actually saw relevant meta success. Abc Thunder dragon and blue eyes which won the 2016 world championship. Where as none of yugis decks that I can recall off the top of my head actually had any meta relevant success barring maybe the chimera archetype when blended with Branded but it's more of an engine more than a standalone deck so idk if it counts
Since Brick-eyes was so heavily associated with Kaiba, it is hard to imagine him olaying any other Deck. But I would like to see a "Kaiser" Deck where basically it is a retrain/reimagine Deck consist of all of Kaiba beatdown monsters that you list at the end of the video. Aesthetically, they can all wield different kind of sharp weapons and their playstyle revolve around the Battle Phase. Basically a more glorified War Rock or a more nerfed Tenpai.
The virus cards have lair of darkness as support. The fieldspell makes it possible to tribute opponents monsters for card effects and makes everything dark. Lilith lady of lament turbos out the virus cards themselves and darkest diabolos summons itself if a dark monster is tributed
You know, I can easily see "Battle Ox" and "Mystic Horseman" having an archetype similar to the "Gaia & Curse of" series. Why it hasn't been done yet is beyond my comprehension. Thank you for the content. Have a wonderful day.
I am shocked most of his Dragon cards like Kaiser Glider, CED, Hyozanryu, and what not have not been added to or made fusions with the Blue Eyes Deck. Hell even the thunder dragon deck since he did use the cards and well..while it is a dub attack name, White Lighting was the attack in the anime. Could make it Blue Eyes White Thunder Dragon or something like that. Especially with the light monster aspect of them both fitting well. CED though I would wanna see the most since it's the card he used in my favorite duel with him and would be cool especially since they did a BLS and Dark Magician fusion which could be it's counterpart.
I'm so hyped for the XYZ retrains. I fell in love with the archetype while playing Legacy of the Duelist with the ABC cards, and I've been a big fan ever since.
I will say this with Vampire Lord. It does work well with his Crush Card style where you wreck your oppoents deck then vampire lord when dealing damage to your oppoents Life points can declare Monster, Spell or Trap and your oppoent has to discard it from there deck if there is a target. Also back when I was playing semi competitivly one of my favourite Decks was the Red Eyes Zombie Structure Deck and adding Crush Cards *it was around the time when Resident Evil Umbrella Chronicles was out on wii and the deck was out around the same time so yeah full Wesker mode lol....ah simple fun times*
You could make a virus deck as part of the Lair of Darkness deck. Lair has support cards and boss cards named (in Japanese) for the same things the virus cards are named for, and lair lets you sacrifice opponents cards for the traps.
I saw someone make alternative artworks for some of Kaiba's og cards like Battle Ox, La Jin, and Vorse Raider as Eyes of Blue monsters so since Kaiser Seahorse got one it could be possible
I think I've used more decks based on Joey's monsters than there are Kaiba decks. (granted, not all of them would do well in modern day, but they can be built) when I get home I'll pull up my "totally legit" yugioh dueling website and count the Joey decks I still have)
Completely forgot about this comment after I got home, but I have the list with some being stretches. 1. Red Eyes Deck -Probably 1 of 2 decks here that could work in modern day 2. Flame Swordsman Deck 3. Gearfried/Gilford Deck 4. Jinzo Deck (may be slightly cheating as this started as someone else's card, but I very much associate Jinzo to Joey) 5. Hermos Deck (not a great deck, mostly just made to vs 1 of my friends when we did a themed duel ages ago) Decks that are stretches 1. Goblin Deck- He used Goblin Attack Force in several arcs, so you could maybe count it 2. Marauding Captain/Command Knight Deck (I don't remember Joey using Command Knight, but he used Marauding Captain and a lot of warriors that are in the deck) 3. Time Wizard Deck (primarily focuses on Thousand Dragon/TenThousand Dragon, but does feature other time wizard cards such as DarkSage which of course requires Dark Magician) Honorable mention: Gamble Deck- includes skull/graceful dice, roulette spider, fairy box and various other coin/dice based cards. (not really effective, but fun as hell to play)
I love Kaiba's deck so much that I basically have tried to make Blue-Eyes work, and I love that deck is getting support. However, I have thought of doing an A-to-Z Deck (though I think that's worse than Blue-Eyes, so IDK) and a Thunder Dragon Deck. Thunder Dragon is 100% going to be my next deck that I try too since it actually seems useful compared to current TCG and Master Duel Blue-Eyes.
Ra works too. It’s actually a really good engine with Ra since ancient chant can boost its ATK to somewhere around 8000 just from the tributing the Horus monsters and can send bricks like immortal phoenix to the grave
@@cherrylk4188True. I recently tried to make Horus Egyptian Gods deck without recipe and surprisingly pretty consistent after I decided to focus only on Ra.
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What Classic Kaiba Card World You Like To See Branch Out Into A Full Deck?
La jin the genie
Battle Ox, La Jinn, Vorse Raider
Personally, I would love a full Virus deck, but that might just be me.
It is interesting that you mentioned Different Dimension Dragon, since Kaiba is also the first duelist to use Dimension Fusion as well as Soul Absorption. Also, in the Pyramid of Light movie, both his duels had him use strategies built around Return from the different Dimension. So yeah, please an actual D.D. deck. It would also help with getting out Jet Iron, which is currently quite difficult. Also I don't like the other D/D deck or the guy who played it.
Forgot about another fusion with Blue-Eyes and that's Blue-Eyes Tyrant Dragon.
Would like to see a Joey wheeler version of this series
Clearly joey is the most influential duelist as everyone who doesn't buy a structure deck makes his deck style of putting whatever you got around until you hit 40.
so basically a masochist run i see
@@bonzey9895 so me and my friends when we do what we call "1 card decks" aka we only use 1 copy of every card,I love them
Actually, I’m thinking it would be fun if we had more cards that rewarded filling your starting deck with the full 60. I’m thinking something like…
_Age of Abundance_
Spell Card
_Can only be activated only if you have more cards in your main deck than your opponent. For the rest of this Duel, apply the following effects._
_⚫️During the end phase of each player’s turn, you gain 100 LP for every card in your Hand and Main Deck._
_⚫️Once per turn, during either player’s turn, you can shuffle 1 card from your GY or Banishment into your deck._
_⚫️Once per turn, you can Shuffle 1 card from your hand into your deck: Draw 1 card._
_You can shuffle this card and 1 other card from your Hand, Field, GY and/or Banishment into your deck; For the rest of the turn, any cards that would be Banished or sent to your GY (From your hand, deck and/or field) are shuffled into your deck instead._
@@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire I mean...I dont see why not,I think Konami is scare of making s you know...a card like grass,I mean I am also scare of grass and this time is not even real grass
@@hellkaiser1366
Well Grass simply dumps the difference into your GY. MY approach with the above custom card is meant to actively reward you for _having and maintaining_ that difference.
Fun fact, in the Arc-V anime, there is a character who used a La Jinn archetype deck. He only appeared for a few episodes, but it was still nice to see that.
Yeah, Halil used that against Yuzu during the Junior Arc League Championship.
@@nicholasdaniel2778 right, that was his name. I have trouble memorizing names after zexal.
I was so mad when the new La Jinn Cards didn't get made IRL
@@briarbarfield5809 Makes sense, mostly Zexal characters are just one-offs until we get to the big bosses such as Vector, Eliphas, Don Thousand and Nasch. Arc-V just had a good intention with it's backstory and characters but it blew it when it spent too much time in the Synchro Dimension.
We need to see it in real life
Before Kaiba was associated with dragons, he ran a lot of beast-warrior cards: Hitotsu-me Giant, Vorse Raider, Battle Ox, Rabid Horseman, Rude Kaiser, Boar Soldier so there is enough cards to make an archetype:
Presenting the Rabid archetype.
Beast-Warrior/DARK Lvls. 4-5
Archetype blanket effects: Piercing Damage, Battle Destruction immunity
Main Deck:
Lv. 4
Rabid Centaur Scout (Mystic Horseman)
Rabid Worm Spy (The Wicked Worm Beast)
Rabid Cyclops Giant (Hitotsu-Me Giant)
Rabid Boar Sentry (Boar Soldier)
Raibid Ox Fighter (Battle Ox)
Lv. 5
Rabid Kaiser (Rude Kaiser)
Rabid Vorse Raider (Vorse Raider)
Extra Deck
Rank 5
Rabid Ox Sentinel (Rabid Horseman)
2 Level 5 Monsters
Rank 6
Ravid Vorse Kaiser (Kaiser Vorse Raider)
3 Level 6 monsters
You can Xyz summon this card over a level 5 Xyz monster.
Despite not being Beast-Warrior, this archetype also needs Swordstalker the Avenger.
@@mystery8820 Hey, I retrained Mystic Horseman and Wicked Worm Beast to be Beast Warriors... I even just thought up a Doom Virus Dragon retrain for laughs:
Rabid Beast Swordstalker
Lv. 5
Rabid Virus Dragoon
Rank 5
3 level 5 "Rabid" Monsters
It's partially a gag but I do have a new Virus card to along with it:
Bestial Beserker Virus
I think the main reason that kaiba has less support is because bewd is more popular than dark magician. And that yugi's deck was always a collection of cards, 3 knights, 3 magnets, 2 chimera, 2 card combo for gaia knight fusion. While kaiba is usually just 1 offs. It's easier to make a card when the concept for them working together is already there. But there are so many cards that kaiba used that would be amazing for an archetype, battle ox, vorse raider, kaiser glider, la jinn, saggi the dark clown.
Yugi also had one offs, but those were usually a boss monster, while kaiba had only 1 boss monster.
Don't forget Ryu - Kishin Powered. I can see both he and Saggy being Virus searcher cards if they were restrained.
But knowing Kaiba, he would probably have a New Virus card that would target the extra deck.
I think it's two reasons. Kaiba had way fewer duels than Yugi since he wasn't the protagonist, and as a result he had less opportunities to show off different cards that could have been made into different archetypes. Also, he's devoted to blue-eyes, and the relatively fewer duels he's in compared to Yugi all end up having to feature blue-eyes somehow. As a result writing duels where he's using different archetypal cards would conflict with his characterization.
Blue eyes. Blue eyes obelisk. Blue eyes. Then blue eyes...... featuring obelisk
Nope let's have a Toon Seto called Big Blue Boy which is Obilesk dressed as Kaiba lol maybe in his early full blue coat with the KC Briefcase
XYZ is now a deck and he used thunder dragon and now it’s a deck
It’s not a monster… it’s a god
@@MackRangerPowerMY GOD ATTACKS
11:05 Kaiba’s the CEO of a huge gaming company. Of course hes a vampire....for money
Funny enough, Vampire Lord was given a summoning animation for when Kaiba plays it.
In Duel Links, to be clear. But yeah, pretty neat!
A Swordstalker archetype that shows how Duos (Egyptian Preist Seto's Ka who never got a card equivalent) became the Swordstalker would be an awesome archetype in terms of anime fanservice.
That could actually be really cool. :) Almost like Warrior Dai Grepher's transformation into Dark Lucius.
Kaiser archetype, eh?
We could call it, the "KAISER CORPORATION" Archetype!
That way it keeps the 'KC' initials like Kaiba Corporation!
Kaiser Corp Eyes Dragon…I love it!
Counterpoint for Vampire Lord not belonging to Kaiba: They share a similar hairstyle and body build!
Actually you can summon Magia purely with blue eyes. Just use Chaos Dragon or Chaos Max as the ritual required material
Or swamp card that can replace either
while not like purely virus cards, the "Lair of Darkness" cards (Darkest Diabolos, and the Ladies of Lament as well) are designed to work in-tandem with the virus cards as a dark-attribute, low-attack, tribue focused deck that gets advantage for using the viruses and makes using them super easy, even using the initial tribute of a virus as removal in some cases due to the lair's effect
so yeah, i'd say that Viruses got a full deck themselves, albeit the Lair of Darkness stuff *thematically* is distant to viruses, their actual playstyle is designed for them
I've made this deck. It's super funny to tribute an opponent to activate your viruses.
14:00 Attack Guidance Armor was remade into Krystal Avatar in DSOD to go along with his Krystal Dragon that is used to support his Dragon-with-a-lot-of-BEWD Deck he uses in the movie.
Some fun facts about some of Kaiba's decks:
Blue-Eyes: There's some argument to be made for Blue-Eyes to actually be a counterpart to Buster Blader, at least in the modern day; Reason being that both decks have support that spins them off outside of their associated character. Buster Blader has its own standalone story where it sets off and raises a baby dragon, while Synchro Blue-Eyes focuses on what I'd call the Religion with Eyes of Blue, where the Sages and their beacon, Maiden, communicate with what seem to be dragons that have a divine air to them. Unlike the Fusion/Kaiba themed Blue-Eyes where it simply focuses on how Blue-Eyes is as a force.
A-to-Z: A to Z isn't just a standalone deck; it's become the entire face of the Union mechanic as a whole, with each new Union support designed to support A to Z more than any other adjacent deck.
Thunder Dragon: The design space around TD as an archetype isn't actually related to the anime at all, but rather the TCG. Thunder Dragon was design with a heavy Chaos synergy in mind because back in the day, Thunder Dragon was the best card to discard to the GY to fuel monsters like BLS and Chaos Sorcerer.
The discard effects make sense since that's how the OG TD works, but the banish and sent to GY effects, and even their attributes are based on how they were used in the old Chaos decks.
This man uploading is legit the highlight of a day. Love the breakdowns and I appreciate the updates on shorts for the smaller stuff like new TCG releases
I’m surprised you didn’t mention the Material Archetype used by Kaiba in the Yugioh R Manga. Basically they’re a bunch of mechanical animals that function similar to the A-Z archetype. Their boss monster (Mosaic Manticore) was released as a standalone card, but I’d definitely be down if they made the rest of the archetype along with a retrain of Manticore.
Yugioh r?
R had a lot of potential for decks. Reiko's chess pawn deck would be cool and that was the first time I ever saw Machina deck too. Also need that Wicked God support
Loved the Material cards and Mosaic Manticore. Wish they'd do a retrain
@@Ultradragon16 Yeah. The Material Monster feels like a different XYZ monsters without the Union and more like the Magnets.
@triforceofcourage100 Yu-Gi-Oh! R was a spin-off manga where Pegasus' son seeks vengeance on Yugi for his father's death by using the Wicked God Cards, evil equivalents of the Egyptian Gods.
13:38 & 13:48 Rude Kaiser referenced TWICE; that is definitely nice and not rude.
Also, La Jinn and Gargoyle Powered, very cool.
Yes, we would like to see a Joey assessment.
4:17 hearing a British person say Z instead of zed is probably like finding a 4 leaf clover
In Canada we also generally say Zed, but I've been exposed so much like American media/things to where I cant help but say Z. I remember having a teacher get upset at me because of that lol.
I have been having a go at forcing "nill" and "zed" into my Southern lexicon.
@@benoliver5593 Oof that must be pretty odd, I remember having to do that in Elementary School as once again I say "z" instead of "zed". Not to mention I always would write certain words the "American" way as we also for some reason spell certain words differently like color/colour. But Canada is weird like that.
It's interesting that he says it both ways. Like he pronounces it "Zee" except for A-to-Z which he pronounced "A-to-Zed"
I'm British and I tend to say Zee most time instead of Zed, mainly because of growing up watching DBZ
If there was a deck like Gold sarc for Kaiba that makes a modern deck out of his classic cards, I think an interdimension archetype would fit the bill nicely, a high attack beatdown strategy centered around banishing his and the opponent's monsters as cost for the boss monsters sounds like a kaiba strategy. Interdimensional dragon, interdimensional virus, Interdimensional liberation, all cards that could fit him to a T. Making his classic cards "Eyes of blue cards" can be a thing too.
Btw, There not being a genie deck in yugioh kinda feels like sacrilege.
I was thinking more like a technology theme. Make his vanillas cyborg looking things. Make a light virus(that looks like a computer virus)
@@TrueReverse74 there was actually a small La Jinn archetype in Arc-V, used by a character whose design references Aladdin.
He had La Jinn alongside a variety of Lamp cards, and had at least one fusion monster: combining La Jinn with Red Lamp created Fire Jinn, who had burn effects.
I could see a variety of lamps and a La Jinn retrain that lets you go into different fusion monsters or maybe other summoning types. I could see a White Lamp that is a tuner to make a synchro genie.
tbh I want some recolors/ alternate art of dark magician support to have the red dark magician in it or an alternate archetype that show the story of the red dark magician (as an imitator or imposter)
The red magician being an imposter is an among us joke that writes itself. But the idea still goes hard and I’m here for it
I feel all the old dark magician adjacent traps like mirror force, spellbinding circle, magic hats, that one damage redirection one fit. As using them is more akin to illusions vs magic.
So Kaiba used “Thunder Dragon” too right?
…
Idea to make a “Thunder Dragon with Eyes of Blue”:
_Thunder Dragon with Eyes of Blue_ (LIGHT)
_Level 4_
_Thunder/Effect_
_While you control 2 or more face-up “Thunder Dragon” and/or “Eyes of Blue” monsters, this card’s name is always treated as “Thunder Dragon”, and as “Blue-Eyes White Dragon” while outside of your deck. You can discard this card; add up to 2 "Thunder Dragon" or “Eyes of Blue” monsters from your Deck to your hand. You can Banish this card from your GY; Special Summon up to 2 “Thunder Dragon” or “Eyes of Blue” monsters from your hand._
ATK/1500 DEF/1250
You made one mistake. It can be treated as thunder dragon in the deck. But it most definitely cannot be treated as blue eyes.
If it is treated as blue eyes in the hand/field/graveyard, then that would work.
@@ked49
THERE, I reworked the effect so that it only treats itself as “Blue-Eyes White Dragon” while outside of your deck (and retuned the “Thunder Dragon” part to simply make it _always_ be treated as the OG T.D) while the prior mentioned requirements are being fulfilled.
I like how there are cards for certain archetypes that allow you to jam in a god card into the deck even if it doesn't synergize well.
You have Thunderspeed Summon to summon Slifer in a King's Knight, Queen's Knight, and Jack's Knight deck. Granted, you can instead use Arcana Triumph Joker if you don't want to use Slifer.
And you have Union Activation to summon Obelisk in an A-to-Z deck. Weirdly enough, you're really forced to use Obelisk or any other monster with 3000 or more ATK that can be tribute summoned because there are no in-archetype targets for the GY effect of Union Activation.
Sadly, there doesn't seem to be a Ra counterpart to these cards. Marik's slime cards seem to have been made specifically to be played alongside the Ra support cards right from the get-go. I guess Marik didn't have an iconic trio of monsters that he consistently tributed to summon Ra, unlike Yugi and Kaiba.
And for thunder dragons, I have a thunder dragon/watt deck and have summoned Thunderstormech many times. The Watts and thunder dragons surprisingly work really well together
Guessing before watching after hearing the number.
* Blue-Eyes
* Machine Union (ABC-VWXYZ)
* Virus traps (supported by Lair of Darkness)
* Vampire (he used Vampire Lord in the virtual world)
0:31 .....excuse you?
He didn’t say anything wrong
My grandpa knows the blue eyes white dragon... He can't remember my name bro😂
There technically already is a Virus archetype, as the Virus trap cards are usually paired with the Dark monsters like Darkest Diabolos, Ahrima, Duke Shade, Diabolica, Tiakalel, and so on. The "Lady of Lament" monsters are also a big part of this archetype as well, as they tend to search the Virus trap cords; working directly with them and the field spell "Lair of Darkness". Since the Virus traps need to tribute Dark monsters, the effects of these other cards revolve around tributing Dark monsters and getting effects off that way.
You could, theoretically, use the Virus cards in other Dark Trap-based decks like Labrynth, Eldlich, Dinomorphia, etc. But they tend to be paired with the Lair of Darkness cards and the Lady of Lament cards. I think this is because of the structure deck released many ears ago: Curse of Darkness. It had the original Diabolos, Lich Lord, and Prometheus who are also part of the Virus archetype, and it also had Crush Card Virus, Deck Destruction Virus, and Eradicator Epidemic Virus. So when Konami created these new Dark monsters revolving around tributing Dark monsters and using trap cards, I think the inspiration came from their old structure deck when they were all used together.
The virus cards go well with the field spell Lair of Darkness, as you can sacrifice the opponents monsters to activate the virus cards
Ok I want to add onto that "Kaiser" theme you suggest at the end of the video. I'd love the series to be called the "Kaiser Core. Which can abbreviate to KC" A little reference to Kaiba's company, and it could turn all his monsters into a KC monster. Kinda like he copyrighted them. For example "Blue-Eyes Kaiser Core Dragon", "Kaiser Core Vampire Lord" etc.
Huge fan of Saggi the Dark Clown, I made a fan deck where the gimmick was it could triple it’s ATK every battle phase and make XYZ monsters that are unaffected if they have Saggi as material
Uh actually the Lair of Darkness monsters were originally meant to be virus support cards, for example “Lilith, Lady of Lament” sets herself to 1000 ATK and searches one of three released normal traps on normal summon, specifically setting up for crush card virus
@@power998 there also demon Kings with Japanese names that line up with the Japanese names of the viruses (the Japanese names of the virus are all “Deck Destruction Virus of [X]”)
CCV: Lich Lord (Death)
DDV: Diabolos (Demon)
EEV: Prometheus (Darkness)
FFV: Duke Shade (Shadow)
GGV: Ahrima (Wickedness)
Several of those are meant to support either the viruses directly or Lair of Darkness.
This is interesting for Kaiba, I would have guessed more for him, but it's surprising that it's so few.
Joey's would be cool to see. Just going off memory I can think of 3, possibly 7, archetypes/decks that spawned from Joey's deck: Flame Swordsman, Red-Eyes, and Hermos, with possibities of Time Wizard/Baby Dragon, Gearfried, Gilford, and Landstar (though I believe most of the Landstar cards are Anime exclusive).
Joey also uses a lot of chance/luck cards like Graceful Dice, Skull Dice, Roulette Spider, etc. So perhaps they could someday make that its own archetype sort of thing, maybe do that with the random Warriors and Beast-Warriors he has in his deck too. It would also be interesting if they could find a way to somehow get his Battle City Ante cards (Jinzo, Insect Queen, and Legendary Fisherman) all together in a deck/archetype, possibly with support for/with Warriors and Beast-Warriors, since he decided to actually use the Ante cards in his deck, at least for a little bit.
My guess as to why there's not as many decks spawn off for Kaiba like with Yugi is cause since his deck centers on getting Blue Eyes out, and the fact that Blue Eyes is basically Konami 's "Charizard" a cool dragon the kids love, they probably think they can just get away with making a ton of support for them and call it a day
Going into this I could only think of blue eyes, thunder dragon and ABC
I forgot thunder dragon, but Virus traps and Vampires came to mind.
He also has Obelisk, but that itself is part of the greater God Card archetype.
@@enlongjones2394 yeah virus to me has always been more of a support for lair of darkness tbh
@@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire yeah obelisk has never felt like a kaiba card more a card he used
@@TrueKingRp you could argue though that while he only temporarily used obelisk, he made that card his entire personality for as long as he had it.
Yugi had so many cards to build decks off of....magnet warriors, dark magician/girl, Gaia knight, black luster soldier.....so many other decks you can make off of those too makes a tough build as a whole
If we're talking retrains maybe we can get a retrained Blue-Eyes shining dragon like say Blue-Eyes Shining Ultima Dragon or Shining Nova Dragon.
Design wise it would be the original Shining Dragon with anew position
ATK 3000 DEF 2500
Effect wise pretty much since the cards came out before the movie did we can easily fix it.
[Can't be normal summoned or Set can only be special summoned by tributing a Blue Eyes Ultimate Monster. Quick effect: This card can't be targeted by Spells Traps and Monster effects and its summoning can't be negated by card effects. This card gains 300 ATK for every dragon type monster in the graveyard. You can tribute this card and destroy every card on both players field. When this card goes to the grave via battle or card effect you can banish a blue eyes spell or trap from the grave to revive this dragon]
This dragon would atleast be a great counter to hand traps and with an updated summoning cost you can use either Neo blue eyes ultimate regular OG Ultimate dragon Alternative Ultimate dragon and our newest Synchro ultimate dragon for its cost searching for it would be easier with the blue eyes search support. The effects mirror what it had in the movie and can make it stand up to the gods like the Movie novel for the pyramid of Light movie had stated and the subbed version of the film. We would finally get a better understanding of its final effect plus with a revival effect it can be revived.
These vids help get deck builds going. Great job
Basically, Kaiba's deck branch is a "tall" build/improvements while Yugi's deck branch is a "wide" build/improvements.
Wait, do YGO players even know what these terms means? Eh, whatever.
Considering most can't read, eh it's a moot point.
After remembering the digital world arc, I definitely think that a Judgeman archetype would be fun! We’d have a courtroom field spell with monsters representing lawyers, jurors, the defense and prosecutors and bailiffs.
You can think of the Crush Card Virus to have brought out a Lair of Darkness Virus deck, where they tribute your monsters for the Virus costs and use Lilith to add Virus cards to hand. However, if you have ever seen errataed Crush Card Virus used against Tearlament, you'll instantly understand how bad it is xD
I've attempted to make a Timaeus deck before... and did summon Timaeus the Knight of Destiny on turn 1 using the Tearlament engine with Merrli legal, but it doesn't do anything beyond that.
I think Vampire Lord isn't really a Kaiba card either. It's just a good card he used, just like Vampire Lord was used in "good stuff" decks in old Yu-Gi-Oh.
I'd be down to see Kaiba's beast-warriors turned into their own arctype. Vorse Raider, Rude Kaiser, Hitotsu-me Giant, and Battle Ox are some of his more prevalent cards and fit together well thematically. Could probably throw in Sword Stalker since he fits the bill pretty well. Maybe they're a battle focused fusion deck since Battle-ox has that one fusion, but maybe that'd be too similar to gladiator beasts, idk.
I also feel like Blade Knight could be added to the eyes of blue series similar to Neo Kaiser Seahorse. It has a very fitting aesthetic, maybe it's canonically Protector with upgraded armor.
There is kind of a Virus deck or more an Archetype that heavily Supports them: Lair of Darkness. It heavily incentives tributing Dark Monster, gives you Tokens to tribute, One of its Monsters; Lilith, Lady of Lament even searches for Normal Traps and can get small enough to be used for Crush Card Virus, or be big enough to be used for Deck Devastation Virus. Its usually uses Virus cards as part of its deck. It even has a big Dragon as a Boss Monster Diabolos Lord of the Lair.
Hermos and Critias need a extra monster form like Timaeus got, something that can slot into an archetype or deck and help manifest fusions itself.
@ 8:44
Modern Retrain:
Saggi the Viral Clown
Attribute: DARK
Type: Spellcaster
Level: 3
Atk: 600
Def: 1500
Effect1: If this card battles a non-dark Monster, destroy that monster after damage calculation.
Effect2: You can tribute this Monster, destroy all monsters your opponent controls and in their hand with attack equal or greater than 1500 and send them to the GY.
_______________
It’s not much, but it is a retrain.
like a Kaiser deck could be all about tributing for monsters that get effects based apon what monsters where tributing/the amount were tributed! and the said tribute fodder gets effects once being tributed, so even if your opponent using Lava golem or Nibiru, your monsters effects go off!
I will say, while this isn't technically a "Kaiba card", as it was only used by Yugi during his duel against the fake Kaiba, Mystical Elf does have a retrained counterpart, Mystical Elf - White Lightning. It's essentially a hand trap version of Mystical Elf that can support Blue-Eyes. And we can technically consider it a Kaiba card if you count the "Gift of the Mystical Elf" card that Kaiba used.
Kaiba's odd monsters could be turned into a Little Yugi-esque archetype, where they support each other, rather than Konami coming up with a dozen different family decks. Atem's approach to duelling was always versatility, so there were a lot of combo cards and fusions to take inspiration from, but with Kaiba, it was the opposite; his strategy was always "summon big monster, everything else is fodder". Rare were the times you saw the same monsters in his deck that wasn't Blue-Eyes.
Imagine if they made a blue eyes obelisk fusion
Do we even have any god cards fusions?
The only thing I can think about is the movie fusion of all 3 Egyptians gods with infinite attack but I think that was never made (for obvious reasons) @@deadsoul7409
@@deadsoul7409 Probably not. The Egyptian God archetype is notoriously bad with only one card seeing tournament use just to support a completely different deck
@@aerodynamiccow3597 yeah aside from raa's (still not a great deck) obalisk and slifer are unplayable.
Technically there's "The Creator God of Light, Horakhty" but it got turned from a fusion into a main deck monster when it was made IRL. Just like Manjoume's LADD actually.
black eyes, Jinzo, Claw of Hermes, Gearfried, Gilford, Flame Swordsmen, Thousand Dragon. . . Joey has a few familiar favored cards. and i KNOW for a fact there is a Black-Eyes deck out there
9:28 the virus are so classic the last voice actor duel, using the virus after the pandemic I felt was cool for the nostalgia using Crush Card virus with Giant Germ, and Yugi’s defeating Kaiba with a new Exodia like that Exodia was the vaccine to kill and beat that Virus and the DUEL. Also the close thing to a virus deck would be the Lair of Darkness deck with the virus since Lilith play along as a searcher for normal trap cards
Thunder Dragon player here. The link monster, the two high-level main deck monsters (Dragonlord and Dragonduo) as well as the trap cards are pretty much never played.
The link isn't that great compared to generic options, and the other cards don't mesh too well with the rest of the archetype on top of being quite bricky in a deck that can already have dead hands on occasion.
I think it would be cool if Battle Ox, Mystic Horseman, and Rabid Horseman got their own deck, something along the lines of Chimera King of Mythical Beasts.
Card idea: Alpha Activation Virus
Card type: Trap
Card Effect: Tribute a monster with 4000 or more ATK points, and if you do, create 5 0 Atk/0 Def Germ tokens, which cannot be used for the summoning of any extra deck monster or tributed except for the activation of a virus trap card. Then send this card to the graveyard and set five "Virus" trap cards with different names from your deck or hand to your side of the field. You may banish this card from your graveyard and change the ATK of four monsters you control to 500, 2000, 2500, and 3000 respectively, and the DEF of one monster to 2000. Also, any card sent from your opponent's hand, deck, or field to the GY because of a "Virus" trap is banished face down instead. You can only activate each effect of Alpha Activation once per turn.
Make the tokens tributable as to work with virus cannon.
I was about to type 'best Rollback target ever', but actually the fact that the Trap has to be sent to the GY to set the other Virus Traps means maybe not?
I genuinely love your channel and all of your videos!
I like how, even tho only 4 decks have been made from Kaiba's deck, almost all were meta at some point
I would love to hear/see a video about the Paleozoic archetype from you
A "Virus Archetype" would get banned and crippled immediately. But yea, other characters deserve the "Golden Sarcophagus" treatment. The problem with Kaiba is that he doesn't have much going for aside from Blue-Eyes, Obelisk and maybe Critias.
For Joey, he has the Red-Eyes, the Flame Swordsman, Gilford, Jinzo, Gearfried, Hermos and the "-with-chain" cards.
Maybe he needs a "Lord of the Red" support. That duel with Valon was a fan favorite.
I think Amorphage combined with the virus cards is the closest we will get to a full virus deck
I didn't know Thunder Dragons had a Link either since, like you, I've never seen anyone use it
It would be cool if you did a vid on how many decks have the "Eyes" motif like Blue Eyes, Red Eyes, Galaxy Eyes or Odd Eyes. Kaiba doesn't have as many deck that have spun off into other archetypes, but he makes up for it in directly inspiring the creation of new archetypes or at least giving off influential vibes. Stuff like the Cyber Dragon or Galaxy Eyes are pretty on the nose off shoots of Blue Eyes in their own way.
Even attack names "horobi no burst stream" crawled so "hametsu no photon stream" could run.
@@HenshinFanatic yep haha
In a sense, the Virus series does have support; the OCG-only structure deck Curse of Darkness (and to a greater extent, its "retrain", the Lair of Darkness structure deck) are informally themed around facilitating the use of Virus cards, with things like DARK monsters that can modulate their ATK stats to be viable tribute costs, cards to search and recur traps, and the titular Lair of Darkness field spell that makes all monsters DARK and lets you tribute your opponent's monsters for costs. Admittedly, though, none of it is support that references Kaiba.
In manga, Soul Exchange card is called Cross Soul so it kinda fits the new retrain
Yugi’s new archetype was shiny sarcophagus that revolves around his iconic monsters that got some gold trim because they came from his box…
What if Kiaba got a new enemy controller that operated the same way, where his new monsters where all the stuff he’s taken with enemy controller just given that blue eyes finish-
The gimmick is that if you control the continuous spell power controller, you can tribute tribute your opponents monsters to special summon lv8 or higher monsters from your hand/gy or something like that…
Or you can make a deck out of lajin the genie of the lamp but…would you really?
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I would argue that, while the full fledged Vampire deck doesn’t feel like it fits Kaiba, Vampire Lord is definitely a Kaiba card. After all, Vampire Lord has a summoning animation in Duel Links that only Kaiba (DM) can activate. So, I think it would count towards his deck count.
I'm just out here waiting for the "Saggi the Dark Clown" Deck.
Lord of D? Surprised that wasn’t more discussed more.
I think La jinn and the lamp could be cool to spin off. Lot´s of stories/mythology to draw from. "hiding" the monsters in the spell/trap zone, jinns granting "wishes" for a cost, maybe wish tokens for effects? There is potential here.
There was also a minor character who used a La Jinn deck in Arc-V.
If they made Kaiba himself and his own jet a monster card then there’s enough room for a dark clown, Genie, and maybe a “plague” or germ deck that’s supported by the virus cards. There’s also a “battle” arc that features beast-warriors with insane attack stats though the gladiator beasts already have that covered and I think the Danger! cards handle that well too. At the very least I think there should be more Critius and Hermos support cards just so they don’t feel too limited.
La Jinn archetype which revolves around "Mystical Genie" monsters being made immune by continuous spell "Lamp" cards on the field.
Like Golden Lamp makes Mystical Genies immune to spell and trap effects. Silver Lamp prevents battle destruction. Bronze Lamp allows Genies to attack directly by giving up half their ATK for the turn. So on and so forth.
The D. Probably got the most support with past blue eyes and xyz with its 4 monsters and all the spell cards
Pandemic Dragon could probably count as a "Virus" card
Saggi the Dark Clown would be such a dope archetype they could go for (probably just shorted it into dark clown). I imagine they'll be flip monsters so probably won't be that good but I'll enjoy an evil clown archetype anyways.
The blue eyes waifus featuring dragons
Vampire lord has a summoning animation with Kaiba. So i do think it is.
Had 0 idea about the interdimensipnal matter transporter retrain so thanks for that. Had that card in my old decks as a plan B to save stuff so it’s cool it’s got a newer version
I love thunder dragons I use them still in master duel every so often.
I use a Virus themed deck, it works amazingly with Lair of Darkness.
In duel links, vampire lord has a summoning animation with kaiba
I can only speak for myself, but I would love to see his little brother Mokuba, inspire some cards. Perhaps the Kaiser cards can be used as the base. But here's the idea for the arctype. It would revolve around a lower leveled monster being easily searched out from the deck, it could then go to the opponents side of the field, lock it down in a small way (like no link monsters can be summoned if they have arrows that would point towards that monster). Then you can summon bigger monsters and charge your opponent directly (ignoring what's on the field). Kind of plays with the old idea that Mokuba always gets kidnapped, and Kaiba has to rescue him/deal with who took Mokuba directly. Also TGSAnime (if you read this), here's an idea for a topic: what if in the original anime, we had gotten link monsters first, how would the game have evolved differently? Perhaps fusion, and link were changed? Like Polly would be needed to bring out a link (instead of a fusion). Just a fun idea lol
Missed opportunity that the a-z deck isn’t locally called “alphabots”
Kaiba has duel links voicelines fir vampires so I think it counts. I think he has an animation for summoning vampire lord too.
Honestly it's very on theme that there are basically no Kaiba decks vs Yugi's large number of archetypes spun off from his deck. Like Yugi's whole thing was incredibly creative strategies using a vast array of seemingly dissonant monsters, while Kaiba cared about having the strongest monsters possible and winning through singular, powerful monsters. Yugi gets a million decks, Kaiba's support keeps brute forcing Blue-Eyes.
We need a proper Saggi the Dark Clown retrain
So this is a case of quantity or quality. Yugi has spawned in more decks but 3 of the 4 kaiba decks you talked about actually saw relevant meta success. Abc Thunder dragon and blue eyes which won the 2016 world championship. Where as none of yugis decks that I can recall off the top of my head actually had any meta relevant success barring maybe the chimera archetype when blended with Branded but it's more of an engine more than a standalone deck so idk if it counts
Since Brick-eyes was so heavily associated with Kaiba, it is hard to imagine him olaying any other Deck. But I would like to see a "Kaiser" Deck where basically it is a retrain/reimagine Deck consist of all of Kaiba beatdown monsters that you list at the end of the video. Aesthetically, they can all wield different kind of sharp weapons and their playstyle revolve around the Battle Phase. Basically a more glorified War Rock or a more nerfed Tenpai.
And the boss of the deck is a retrained BEUD called Blue-Eyes Kaiser Dragon.
The virus cards have lair of darkness as support. The fieldspell makes it possible to tribute opponents monsters for card effects and makes everything dark. Lilith lady of lament turbos out the virus cards themselves and darkest diabolos summons itself if a dark monster is tributed
Vampire lord have animation in duel links if you summon it with kaiba.
You know, I can easily see "Battle Ox" and "Mystic Horseman" having an archetype similar to the "Gaia & Curse of" series. Why it hasn't been done yet is beyond my comprehension. Thank you for the content. Have a wonderful day.
when it comes to the thunder dragons, I'd like to add that in a lot of games and such, Mokuba uses the new thunder dragon archetype cards
There needs to be more A to Z monsters
I am shocked most of his Dragon cards like Kaiser Glider, CED, Hyozanryu, and what not have not been added to or made fusions with the Blue Eyes Deck. Hell even the thunder dragon deck since he did use the cards and well..while it is a dub attack name, White Lighting was the attack in the anime. Could make it Blue Eyes White Thunder Dragon or something like that. Especially with the light monster aspect of them both fitting well. CED though I would wanna see the most since it's the card he used in my favorite duel with him and would be cool especially since they did a BLS and Dark Magician fusion which could be it's counterpart.
I'm so hyped for the XYZ retrains. I fell in love with the archetype while playing Legacy of the Duelist with the ABC cards, and I've been a big fan ever since.
I will say this with Vampire Lord. It does work well with his Crush Card style where you wreck your oppoents deck then vampire lord when dealing damage to your oppoents Life points can declare Monster, Spell or Trap and your oppoent has to discard it from there deck if there is a target. Also back when I was playing semi competitivly one of my favourite Decks was the Red Eyes Zombie Structure Deck and adding Crush Cards *it was around the time when Resident Evil Umbrella Chronicles was out on wii and the deck was out around the same time so yeah full Wesker mode lol....ah simple fun times*
You could make a virus deck as part of the Lair of Darkness deck. Lair has support cards and boss cards named (in Japanese) for the same things the virus cards are named for, and lair lets you sacrifice opponents cards for the traps.
I saw someone make alternative artworks for some of Kaiba's og cards like Battle Ox, La Jin, and Vorse Raider as Eyes of Blue monsters so since Kaiser Seahorse got one it could be possible
I think I've used more decks based on Joey's monsters than there are Kaiba decks. (granted, not all of them would do well in modern day, but they can be built) when I get home I'll pull up my "totally legit" yugioh dueling website and count the Joey decks I still have)
Completely forgot about this comment after I got home, but I have the list with some being stretches.
1. Red Eyes Deck -Probably 1 of 2 decks here that could work in modern day
2. Flame Swordsman Deck
3. Gearfried/Gilford Deck
4. Jinzo Deck (may be slightly cheating as this started as someone else's card, but I very much associate Jinzo to Joey)
5. Hermos Deck (not a great deck, mostly just made to vs 1 of my friends when we did a themed duel ages ago)
Decks that are stretches
1. Goblin Deck- He used Goblin Attack Force in several arcs, so you could maybe count it
2. Marauding Captain/Command Knight Deck (I don't remember Joey using Command Knight, but he used Marauding Captain and a lot of warriors that are in the deck)
3. Time Wizard Deck (primarily focuses on Thousand Dragon/TenThousand Dragon, but does feature other time wizard cards such as DarkSage which of course requires Dark Magician)
Honorable mention: Gamble Deck- includes skull/graceful dice, roulette spider, fairy box and various other coin/dice based cards. (not really effective, but fun as hell to play)
12:18 except not really because Yugi never actually uses EoB, it doesn't show up in the anime until GX
And yes Vampires should count
I love Kaiba's deck so much that I basically have tried to make Blue-Eyes work, and I love that deck is getting support. However, I have thought of doing an A-to-Z Deck (though I think that's worse than Blue-Eyes, so IDK) and a Thunder Dragon Deck. Thunder Dragon is 100% going to be my next deck that I try too since it actually seems useful compared to current TCG and Master Duel Blue-Eyes.
The Horus cards can be used for a slifer & obelisks deck
Ra works too. It’s actually a really good engine with Ra since ancient chant can boost its ATK to somewhere around 8000 just from the tributing the Horus monsters and can send bricks like immortal phoenix to the grave
@@cherrylk4188 true but people use those 2 far more
@@cherrylk4188True. I recently tried to make Horus Egyptian Gods deck without recipe and surprisingly pretty consistent after I decided to focus only on Ra.
@@WeebGuru6I use Slifer in Qliphort and it works nicely as floodgate option
8:57 One of the most “Toxic” decks. Perhaps not intended, but I see what he did there