Actually, I think it was Kuriboh being scared out of his fucking mind on how brutally strong that Egyptian God Monster is compared to his tiny little body. Kuriboh is just a scared little puppy born out of its mother's womb. Obelisk is quite literally a unholy freak of nature.
The weird thing is that in the manga Lumis and Umbra were seemingly not supposed to be the same guys who got OTK’d in the previous duel and while the JP version of the anime made them look basically the same and gave them the same voice actors they also never verbally confirmed them to be the same for some reason, only dub did. Such a weird thing to me since it makes their wiki pages separate.
It actually makes sense in the manga. This duel isn’t shown in its entirety. So Kaiba’s insane opening hand isn’t what it is in the anime. Also Kaiba is shown having defeated another duelist after these guys. So Yugi and Kaiba are just waltzing through Battle City owning everyone. Until Lumis and Umbra show up, finally giving them a challenge.
Having the same design seems like it's less "they aren't supposed to be the same guys" and just "they aren't explicitly shown as the same guys when the anime makes it pretty apparent they are."
Man i just wanted to take the time to thank you for these videos. I'm visually disabled, and I love yugioh. Having someone that understands, loves, and pays so much attention to everything go through and explain everything happening in the duels. It's amazing, and it helps me like so much hahaha. So, yeah I just wanted leave this thank you message here 💙🐺
Wow i didn't even think of it that way. Personally i just enjoy someone enthusiastically going back and going so in depth on this series like he does but I'm glad this has been able to benefit you directly as a result! Reminds me of Serenity and that kid giving her updates as she recovers from her surgery.
You don't have to explain your disability, but I am curious if you've ever seen the card art or whatever before. I find it interesting how someone would get into Yu-Gi-Oh! with a vision disability since I feel like so much of the appreciation of it would come from the aesthetics.
@Voidaken omg of course! I don't mind talking about my disability, more people should do that actually! Lol So, i was born visually disabled, I still have some vision, it's about 20% of a "notmal" vision. So, yes I can see the art work on the cards, I love them of course! But for example, names, levels, effects, atk/def poins, i can't normally, so I have to memorize as many cards as I can to be able to play. Which actually ends up saving me and whoever I'm playing with time, cause idk like 8 times out of 10 I know the effects word from word of the majority of the cards I use hahahahaha. That's why I prefer the dub version of the cards actually, since fhe image is bigger it's much easier for me to see and appreciate their details, and like I said, I'm doing any reading any way, so lol.
In defense of the tributes: -Ritual Summon is a special type of tribute summon -Contact Fusion is a special type of tribute summon -Obelisk is not a monster, IT'S A GOD!
1- Ritual Might need tributes but its also a Special Summon style 2- True, Though in Valkyrion's case its a unique special summon requirement 3- Remember that Anime Egyptian God cards are extremely powerful and (in a sense) Immune to card effects (See Kaiba vs Aigami for another Obelisk Bypass)
@@FoxhoundClass03 Yes, I kind of wish Kaiba just said that trap cards do not work on God Cards. It would have made more sense. In fact, it would have just been easier if the rule was, "You could not tribute summon." I know what the card says, and I know the true rules for Obelisk, but it is the anime.
In total seriousness this is exactly how it works in the manga. Rituals are transformations, Valkyrion is a combination monster, and the god cards are well... Gods.
Thank you for conTRIBUTING this long awaited duel analysis. I can't wait for you to TRIBUTE the duel analysis, Yugi Vs. Bakura (Dawn of the Duel) & Kaiba Vs. Alister (Both duels) sometime in the future.
@@ColeMeCrazy I second the motion, though it could be done in a 4-2 analysis like DSOD. 2-1 #1: Was Yami Bakura about to defeat Yugi/Kaiba 2-1 #2: Was Alister about to defeat Kaiba (Dual Duels)
About Mask of Restrict, similarly to Battle Ox being a Lv. 6 in the Manga, and a Lv. 4 in the Anime, the effect of the card differs in both medias. In the manga, Mask of Restrict's effect reads "Your opponent cannot offer any of his monsters as tribute". This is how Kaiba and Yugi figured the loophole to summon Obelisk, they can't tribute their own monsters, but if they have the means to it, they can still tribute the enemy's monsters. Kaiba even teases the Masked Brothers about it in the manga, saying "Next time, you should read your own cards properly". So, yeah, like many of the duels in Yu-Gi-Oh Duel Monsters, this is another instance of a Duel being screwed by how the anime decided to change a lot of things.
The effect in the game could be justified if the effect of masked doll alters mask of restrict to only work for your opponent. Like if they were to print mask doll for the ocg or tcg, they would need to add in an extra line to the effect like “if mask of restrict is on the field, it’s effect changes to “monsters on your opponents side of the field cannot be tributed.”
Yeah I was thinking the same thing when it was brought up in this video. Immediately searched for the manga version and it specified that detail Once you know these things happen from time to time, it's easy to assume it was a lost in translation from manga to anime issue.
It would still apply to the Tributes for The Masked Beast's ritual summon, and would still apply to the tributes of the Magnet Warriors for Valkyrion. The simplest fix is if Mask of Restrict prevent Tributing your own monsters for a Tribute Summon (which would work if it was a hard counter to the Egyptian God cards). So it seems like everyone and every medium fucked this up.
@@PolishSasquatch No, it wouldn't. The card in the manga reads "Your opponent cannot offer any of his monsters as tribute". It literally states that it only applies to the opponent. This an anime exclusive f- up
Fun fact at the end. if lumis just passed his turn instead of trying to flee it would be yugi's turn. He would take 500 damage because of mask of dispell on his multiply and lose the duel. Atleast he could kill yugi by throwing him to his death then some random could pick up Slifer.
Just imagining the anime ending like that. XD Yugi's corpse at the bottom of the building surrounded by glass and Umbra's body and some kid walking by just picks up Slifer like "Oh sweet card. I wonder how much I could sell it for?"
Wow you're right. I don't think yugi nor kaiba had any backrow removal to save Yugi either. Which is stupid of both of h them, but hey. Guess MST'ing or feather dusting everything wouldn't be as fun a watch.
I always figured that was kind of Kaiba's plan. Take out Umbra, Lumis sets something, Yugi dies, Kaiba beats Lumis, and Kaiba claims Slifer as the sole victor of the match. Would be interesting for TGS to do a "What if?" for the rest of the Battle City Arc with this outcome in mind. 1. Jean Claude Magnum makes it to the finals and duels Yami Bakura. 2. Mind slave Joey probably means Odion doesn't play Winged Dragon of Ra, meaning no Yami Marik via that match. 3. Less Evil Marik vs Mai. Semi-finals completely different. That said, the Quarter finals would probably have to be rearranged too, just to make it more narratively fitting. Like I said, it'd be a fun "What if?"
@rickyl3819 thars an interesting what if. But kaiba definitely wouldn't simply let Yami die that way. You see how far he goes post OG series to get back at him one last time after yami's put to rest because he accepts yugi isn't Yami (despite him STILL being skeptical of Egyptian magic lol) and wants to properly beat Yami himself. But hey, if neither of them could remove the backrow it might be an interesting and somber rest of the arc.
Its less interesting in the manga, since Dispel only does 300 damage a turn there. See the original writer was not dumb enough to leave Yugi technically dead after that turn.
In the Manga, or at least Viz's translation, Mask of Restric says "Your opponent cannot offer any of his monsters as a tribute." Since this duel is pretty close to the manga, that is way they can summon the Ritual, and why Kaiba can tribute other monsters but not his owns.
@Lobomaru02 four times. Which is weird due to how it's gone from "Can't tribute Monsters" to "Can't tribute" to "Can't tribute Cards" just...... Brain. exe crashed.
"Obelisk the Tormentor arise and seek your ultimate revenge!" Still an badass line from the anime itself, Huge props to Eric Stuart for that line delivery.
Not gonna lie I'd be teary eyed too if my opponent or partner top decked that GOD tier hand first draw on a whim..... That's like Zane tier luck drawing all three blue eyes (normally a MASSIVE brick), 2 ways to special summon them, AND pot of greed to immediately draw one more way to summon them AND Obelisk.... I mean waht a MOVE opening with Obelisk summoned from 3 blue eyes AND getting off it's 2 tribute Raigeki effect. And remember...this is a 60 card deck he's playing with. the anime characters presumably always run the full 60 card deck.
@@johannesneumayer6041 I understood that reference. "How dare you mock the might of Obelisk with that furball!" Seto Kaiba during the Battle City Semi Finals
You have excellent taste! For me, the cliffhanger of ending the episode right when Kaiba summons his Blue-Eyes, laughing triumphantly. I can’t even begin to describe how ten year old me felt.
@@ryhi5 This episode is what got me back into the series as an adult. I remembered it but never saw the resolution of the duel. Watched the remainder of the duel then proceeded to rewatch the whole series
After randomly learning about propreante, preante, and ante to preface penultimate as 2 years ago, hearing them being used for real is both kinda surreal, but also weirdly validating in a way.
Obelisk punching the Mirror Force the way it did was an epic yet insane moment. I would like to see Dumon and Marin Vs Vector next since I feel like they could’ve won.
Marin was going to win! Vector was about to make a huge misplay, but then Don Thousand bailed him out of trouble! Short answer, had Don Thousand not been holding Vector’s hand, then yes, Vector would have lost. Would love to see that duel covered as well.
I do like Yugioh and TGS’ content, been watching his videos for a few years now. Actually before Master Duel and Speed Duels I just used to watch him and another channel. That was the entirety of my Yugioh content for some time! But… I also work for NAnimerica hence why I commented early 😂
When Zera the Mant was summoned by bandit Keith, Yugi specifically states in the dub “what are the odds that you have both the ritual spell and the monster to summon” so I don’t think they are extra deck monsters
That duel. Can confirm if Frost didn't waste his time toying around. They would have beaten Syrus way earlier leaving Hassleberry to fend off Frost and Thunder. Hassleberry and Syrus should have lost way sooner
Since there's only like one Mask card that has a maintenance cost, ima say the the Masked Doll card doesn't negate the maintenance cost, but just makes the detrimental effects of masked cards not effect you, which would mean their monsters wouldn't be affected by Mask of Restrict so they could be used for the Ritual summon. This could also vaguely explain why Kaiba could tribute summon Obelisk through Soul Exchange, as the magnet warriors being on Umbras field would be unaffected by Restrict, meaning they could be tributed. As for how Yugi even summoned Valkyrion...it's Yugi
In the anime they made a terrible job with mask of restrict. In the manga the effect says "negate the sacrifice and opponent's monsters can't be tributed while this card is in play". Great video, great duel analysis, can you do next "Was Bakura about to defeat Yugi" in the pharaoh memory series? Oh, I forgot, in the manga, in the text card of Alpha, Beta and Gamma it is said "Alpha Beta and Gamma combine themeselves into a powerful monster"
Well, Bakura would have won on his last turn if he didn't get greedy and over extend by summoning Necro Jar to mill four more of Yugi's cards, because then he wouldn't have drawn Gandora and he would have lost when his turned ended as he would have lost the last four cards in his Deck due to Counter Balance.
One correction: If Lumis summoned Obelisk to the field after exchanging hands with Kaiba, it would have backfired and killed him. Only Pharaohs and Tomb Keepers can Summon God Cards without negative consequences so if he had tired, he would have ironically lost the duel. Taking Kaiba's hand would have been the smart play but if he went full-on with it, he would have defeated himself.
Not really. Mai was able to summon Ra and while not able to use it, it didnt strike her down, unlike odion who used a fake. Strings also used slifer even though he was possessed by a tomb keeper i think a god wouldnt like to be summoned by a puppet. Even filler guy from Waking dragons used obelisk with no downside. The Gods arent picky about who uses them just dont be disrespectful
@NeroLucifarious with Mai it refused to acknowledge her yes, but with Strings, his mind and soul were not in control. Marik's was so it was still Mairk summoning it. When it came to the waking Dragons, it showed that the Orichalcos surpassed the Gods at the time so he was able to Summon it, throughout the entire duel he was suffering from the strain to keep Obelisk under control and without the seal, it would have likely fought back and killed Grimo
@@NeroLucifarious did you somehow missed the part that the guy from Orichalcos only managed to do that because the Orichalcos was keeping Obelisk under control?
"No matter what the situation, neither player can offer any monster as a Tribute." is the original text on Mask of Restrict's first printing. Tag duel? No tributes. Ritual Summon? No tributes. Category 4 hurricane warning blasting on the TV? No tributes. An intruder has broken into your home and has a gun? No tributes. Parents fighting in the next room your dueling your friend over from? You know the answer.
@@Amitlu I thought it’s only for the team that goes first. At that point, everybody else has gone once. In GX with Syrus/Jaden vs Paradox bros, I believe the 4th person to go was able to attack.
I'm pretty sure everyone else has already pointed this out but the duel is similar to how it was in the manga which means that it was based off of how the card works in the manga. In the manga the card stated that the opponent cannot tribute any of their own monsters. This means that they can use the opponent's monsters as tribute to summon which is the loophole that Yugi and Kaiba. Also ritual summon and contact fusions (specifically the way that kaiba does contact fusion since there are multiple ways to contact fuse) are still considered special summons even though they require tribute so they are also a loophole.
Also Also I actually don't think it would affected Obelisk anyways because it's a God card and we know that traps can't directly affect God cards to a degree.
Honest that whole ritual thing was hinted at during duelist kingdom. When pegasus read yugi's mind during his duel against mai, "He is attempting the legendary Black Luster Ritual". On yugi's last turn he drew "Black Luster Ritual" and played it immediately opened the gates to chaos and out popped Black Luster Soldier. Was the same thing during his duel against pegasus. "Black Illusion Ritual" was the only card yugi had in his possession on the field alongside dark magician his hand was empty.
18:23 Masked Doll is still on the field. Its effect (according to a translation on the wiki) is more or less “When a Mask card would affect you or an ally, negate that effect for you or your ally only”. Edit: You can see for a brief moment at 22:16 that it’s a continuous spell, so there isn’t any Multiply shenanigans
Worth noting that the official manga translation for Mask of Restrict in this duel is: “Your opponent cannot offer any of his monsters as a Tribute” Which does leave those loopholes open. Yugi merges his magnet warriors into Valkyrion, and Kaiba tributes monsters his opponent controls.
It would have been easier for them to do that. Mask of Restrict could still have the "no monsters can be tribute effect" for the real world but change the text for the anime. I know there are people that hate when cards have different OP effects in the anime, but we have to accept that the anime is aimed at making exciting duels. Real world is about having duels that can be won quickly but be fair.
16:08 This is absolutely the case both in the manga fully (unless it changes in R or GX) and in Duelist Kingdom. I’d never considered it for Battle City, but it lines up with them not altering the hands to match this discrepancy. By the time of the Virtual World filler arc, they were following the proper rules. A pity: Rituals might have been a much better mechanic had they been Extra Deck monsters. Though in the manga it requires using a specific monster as the base sacrifice that is getting transformed and others that equal half its resultant attack, so… yeah. Also, for clarity, Mask of Restrict’s manga effect only stops the opponent from tributing their monsters and required them trying to as an activation condition. Another case of the animators showing the card here with its real-world text without considering the knock-on effect.
28:34 the way I see these anime duels are scripted and made in such a way by the anime staff for shock value. Rather then true authenticity (to the point anime cards have outright different effects then the OCG/TCG) so I am okay with “weird rulings”
no its being summoned from the deck ritual monsters are summoned from the hand or deck after the magic card and sacrifices are completed you just don't know hoe to ritual summon lol
I think in the early yugioh there was no such thing as an ''extra deck'' and the fusion and ritual monsters were just spawning into existence. Like thing about it, how did Yugi have a Red eyes fusion in his extra deck during duelist kingdom when Joey just got red eyes ? I think the logic was ''i am using this spell (poly or ritual spell) so it basically creates the appropriate monster to summon'' (a fitting fusion monster or the ritual monster the spell is supposed to summon)
This 100%. If you look closely on the Duel Arena field in Duelist Kingdom you can see this in action- when Yugi plays Gaia the Dragon Champion did you notice that Polymerization and Gaia the Fierce Knight and Curse of Dragon are all face up on board even though its supposedly one fusion monster? Check out the Weevil duel in Ep 4 and 5! Or Gaia being transformed into BLS when yugi had no ritual in hand and only topdecked the ritual spell? In the manga Black Luster Ritual tributes two monsters (“one to the light and one to the darkness”) to TRANSFORM Gaia into BLS, thats why in the anime when he tribute Kuriboh Gaia gallops into the light (“open the gates of chaos”). The anime cut Griffore from the cost, making Kuriboh and Gaia equal eight stars, but still had Gaia transform into BLS instead of another level seven like Dark Magician
Not to mention the times when monsters randomly become other monsters like harpie sisters, the metal versions of zoa and red-eyes or dark sage. Also how monsters just turn into their toon versions
I was under the impression that this was specifically just Duelist Kingdom and that Kaiba added a “Fusion Deck” alongside “Tribute Summoning” but I could be wrong.
@@WDinATX Perhaps but but ''rituals'' might have still be under those rules at the time. Battle city was just a weird mix of ''kinda real game but also not'' just like how you have the spells being able to be used as quick spells thing
@@JunkoEnoshima. Fair enough. It also explains why Zera the Mant was super duper expensive because people suddenly needed a rare physical card to do what they previously could’ve done without it.
@@scottdreemurrthegodofcreationAside from that duel where Yugi won Slifer, but I guess that rare Hunter was being controlled by Marik at the time so maybe that counts as Marik using it.
Sooo for 18:11. Based off the text of Masked Doll being "A doll that takes ally-affecting mask curses upon itself., both Mask and curses having links to the Mask Archetype and Negative effects respectfully, I think Masked Doll would prevent the effect of Mask of Restrict, that or based off the notes section for the Anime card itself, its meant to only stop tribute summons, specifically using your own for a tribute summon for a card you own which is how Kaiba bypasses it with Obelisk
Also look at 28:40, Masked Doll does indeed negate all drawbacks so Lumis and Umbra can tribute cards ( or have them tributed). But this also means that anime Valkyrion can be “contact fused” and “de-fused”. Furthermore, in the Scripted Duel which uses anime rules 2012 Providence, Valkyrion is an extra deck monster not in Yugi’s hand- in this duel, like in early manga or the Legendary Dragon fusions, some rituals or fusions are “transformations” and are either stored in the extra deck or materialize when the correct card is played on the correct monster- no cards in hand required!
@@SuperSayianWarrior Ally-affecting mask curses eh? But the question then becomes, does Mask of Restrict affect the Tributes or the monster they are tributed for? I think it is supposed to restrict the mechanic of Tributing, not monsters. If for some reason it affects the Tributes, then it is accepable. If it affects the mechanic of Tributing or the monster they're tributed for, then Lumis and Umbra would still suffer from mask of restrict
I think I know why Mask of Restrict is working this way. So, in the Dub, Umbra states that his continuous spell, Masked Doll, absorbs any and all negative effects of all their Mask Cards. Masked Doll is absorbing that negative effect. So, all the plays where Lumis & Umbra cards are tributed are fine.
ahhh so it's a mind game! That actually sounds genuinely valid. Like negating your own spell but your opponent forgets so they play as if the spell is real. Plus despite all the claims of "cheating", the system wouldn't have allowed the plays to be made if they were actually against the rules. (or at least I don't think Kaiba would've left such a loop hole in the system HE built). I know a later series directly points this out when a character tries to make an illegal play and isn't able to (likely Yuma from Zexal). Got me what's going on in Duelist Kingdom, but given Pegasus built that and he's just the card artist, it's unlikely Kaiba would've let any of that slide anyway since he takes the game very seriously.
I have wondered about that as well but then the burn damage Yugi takes should also have been negated... Or an any of the debuffing effects. If masks of restrict negative effect are also absorbed for the enemy then so would any of the other cards.
@@DodacLA isn't the doll only absorbing the negative effects for the owner of the card? So the negative effects of masked cards don't get applied on Umbra's and Lumis' side?
Yet, the card is for maintenance not just negative affects. The dub probably noticed the problem and tried to fix it, whereas the sub just tried to be manga accurate.
7:31 Actually the possible reason for this error is that Battle Ox’s role in the manga was taken by Gadget Soldier, a 4-star monster there (hence why he has it later in his duel against Ishsizu), which was made 6-star for the real-life card. Probably the dialogue was written before the duel writer realised “shoot, gotta swap Gadget Soldier for a 4-star monster for later” and missed updating the dialogue.
27:46 The only sorta defense I can make for the difference in these 2 plays, is that Yugi makes sure to have all the Magnet Warriors on the field when he's "transforming and combining" them, but is "tributing" them in the other duel because he's discarding them directly from the hand. A bit of shenanigans that goes against the card text for sure, but at least slightly more believable in that sense.
I don’t think those are even Lumis and Umbra. They are just a couple of randos with similar body shapes that the dubbing studio thought were the same guys haha
@@SWad250 Yeah it's only brought up in the English release with it only alluded in the Japanese release by Lumis and the short Rare Hunter both being voiced by Yu Mizushima as well as Umbra and the tall Rare Hunter being voiced by Koji Ishi but in the manga those rare hunters aren't named
@SWad250 yes they was they say it in the beginning of the 2st one he sat to yugi you guys won't beat us so easy this time are decks was made to beat u now
Interesting find on Battle City rituals. That makes what I'm hearing on rush duels even more interesting. Word on the street is that rituals are coming to it as Extra Deck monsters.
I honestly always just assumed that either the ritual monster cards were just being created magically or that they were extra deck monsters in the early anime. I always liked that idea when dueling with my friends too.
100%this is how early manga and GBA yugioh games work! Kind of like how dark magician girl is still on the field while magically “transformed” into a “fusion” dragon knight in the Rafael duel, but she isnt in the grave so Yugi takes less damage from Purity if the Cemetery
For a long time, I've wanted Konami to change the rules of Ritual monsters to make them more viable. Something like this: 1. A Ritual monster can be Special Summoned without a Ritual card from the hand by tributing monsters from the hand or field with the same total number of stars. Maybe make it so it can't attack this turn as the cost of circumventing the ritual. 2. A Ritual monster can be Special Summoned from the hand without tribute if an appropriate Ritual spell is activated. 3. A Ritual monster can be Special Summoned from the Deck or Graveyard by tributing monsters with the same or more stars from the hand or field when the appropriate Ritual spell card is activated. This would give Ritual monsters a lot more flexibility, and minimize the instances of the monsters or spell cards being dead cards in hand. If you have one or the other, you have to sacrifice stuff to play it.
Given even in modern Yugioh anime, extra deck cards just magically appear in the pockets of the duelists mid duel.... that's kind of an anime rule in general. XD How else did Yuma just randomly get like 13 forms of Utopia? or Yuya getting the fusion versions of his counter parts dragons without checking his pockets before the duels? XD Always found that amusing, but in their defense. they don't seem to get cards like we do in the real world.
no its being summoned from the deck ritual monsters are summoned from the hand or deck after the magic card and sacrifices are completed you just don't know hoe to ritual summon lol
16:17 You also forgot the duelist kingdom where the same happens. They summon rituals without having the monster in hand, just the spell and the materials
Could also argue that’s how Dark Sage is seeming just made on the spot when Joey uses Time Wizard to age Dark Magician. I can see a case where these cards are in either the extra deck or just the conditions are met so they are pulled into the game from someone’s collection
In fairness...Rituals frankly should've been extra deck in the first place. They are a good way to get rid of ANY high level brick from your hand though, but the fact that you have to draw their unique spell AND the card itself always felt like a case of "why....design them like that?" They'd have been fine as a card with thier specific poly spell but can use ANY monsters at least the level total of the card. I'd like to see how they'd work with that idea in mind.
Makes sense in cannon too. If Yami had BMoC monster in his hand, it wouldn't matter if Yugi put the ritual on the field facedown... Pegasus would see it coming. He clearly didn't have a clue.
Minor thing, Lumis and Umbra using Exchange to take Kaiba’s hand and summon Obelisk wouldn’t work because you have to be worthy or win the god cards in a duel to use them, so Obelisk would have killed the one who would have summoned it and knocked them out of the duel, like Ra with Odion.
When you said ritual monsters are being summoned from the extra deck, that could be the case OR it could be an animation error. Because in the first duel Kaiba had seven cards in his hand, but he used them when he summoned the 3 blue-eyes, lord of d, hyozanryu, and the 2 flutes of summoning dragon. Which means Kaiba's hand would be empty, but it still shows him holding 3 cards. So it possibly could be an animation error.
no its being summoned from the deck ritual monsters are summoned from the hand or deck after the magic card and sacrifices are completed you just don't know hoe to ritual summon lol
The magic shadow box will open a portal to the shadow realm and you’ll fall but you’ll never reach the bottom!!!!! Honestly that sounds worse than falling 50 stories to your death 😅
The boxes are so funny to me. I can get behind all of the other 4Kids changes, but they already made the death drop go into the shadow realm, so the boxes didn't have to be shadow too. They didn't even edit them like the "dark energy disks"!
@@andrewbost4490 They could have been like: Your LP is tied to these devices, when your LP hits 0, the glass will shatter and drop you 30 stories down... hope you brought a parachute.
"The explosives will blow up this glass, which divides this world and the Shadow Realm" would have sounded more realistic, if they wanted to avoid making references to death.
That's a great discovery about rituals, I can totally see ritual monsters be extra deck monsters. Also, they did screw the rules with Masked Beast, and they couldn't do that. Mask of restrict is very clear on the effect.
Other comments have mentioned that most of this duels... for lack of a better term... "choreography" is based on the manga adaptation, but was poorly transcripted over to the anime. Mask of Restrict... in the Manga... apparently only applies to the opponents monsters, which explains why Lumis and Umbra were able to Tribute for the Ritual spell, and why Soul Exchange worked to bring out Obelisk As for the Magnet Warriors being tributed into Valkyrion, that has it's own reason; in the manga, the combined form wasn't actually a physical card... which meant that the "Transform and combine" line was meant to be literally what happened.
Yui-Gi-Oh! 5D's finale duel: Yusei Fudo vs. Jack Atlas. You could also do was Antinomy about to defeat Yusei, was Sherri about to defeat Akiza and Crow.
In fairness with Antinomy, him being close to beating Yusei was deliberate as he was trying to teach Yusei how to do Delta Accel Syncro (or basically synchro with 2 synchro tuners) so Yusei would've lost if he didn't figure out he could do this to summon Quasar dragon. I don't think Antinomy was trying to win anyway, just push Yusei to the limit so he was forced to do an extremely advanced play. Still would be interesting to see how the duel could've changed though like if Antinomy DID deliberately scoop just to give Yusei a chance or if Yusei could've actually won without getting to Quasar.
Not really. Fusions and Rituals are not physical cards. Fusions are combination of monsters on the field and in the manga all the components still on the field.
13:35 My money is that Kaibacorp/Industrial Illusions continuously errata's Yugi's cards, and he slowly powercreeps them down into game mechanics, since Kaiba is sick and tired of Yugi breaking the game so he wins.
In defense of obelisk and the other 2 gods. They literally have a line of text that says their summon CANNOT be negated. Which means mask of restrict does nothing to stop obelisk from coming out
16:04 Ritual monsters are being introduce in the Go Rush! and they seem to be extra deck monsters. Then, this video with this segment comes out making me think that the world works in mysterious ways.
In the early days of the manga and GBA yugioh games, rituals were indeed extra deck monsters! Or rather, they didnt exist at all. Much like the Legendary Dragon fusions, when the correct spell was played under the right conditions, one monster would transform into the ritual. This is why Gaia the Fierce Knight is tied to BLS- play the spell and tribute two non-Gaia cards and then Gaia transforms into BLS. No ritual monster needed in the hand, if you need it at all its in the extra! Cool that rush duels are doing this too, it makes rituals more accessible! Also, this early on Valkyrion is also an extra deck monster, not in Yugis hand. He absolutely contact fuses it here, no Mask of Restrict shenanigans!
@@AlexZandor24 I think you're basically spot on here - before we codified the game of Yu-Gi-Oh into print, the entire series was kind of wishy-washy. Duelist Kingdom having most of the examples, but also things like fusion monsters just kinda appearing out of nowhere (because I doubt that our duelists just so happened to have the specific fusion monster in their extra decks). Ritual monsters must be the same - they exist outside of the duel and you can grab it from a database whenever you finally summon it or something.
@@AlexZandor24 So... most Ritual monsters weren't even created, they were just regular monster cards that transformed into ritual cards via Spell, Trap or Monster effect conditions that were in effect. So, does this hold true for the accompanying Yu-Gi-Oh series?
Yeah, this is one of those duels that becomes a ruling headache due to the changes between the manga and anime. In the manga, Mask of Restrict was a one-sided floodgate that only stopped the opponent from tributing their own monsters, so the Ritual Summon and the Soul Exchange Obelisk play were valid. Valkyrion was also a "contact fusion monster" (there was no physical Valkyrion card; Alpha's, Beta's, and Gamma's card text just say they can combine with each other to form a powerful monster), so nothing was actually tributed to summon it.
You can't convince me Kaiba doesn't have the most insane luck. All 3 Blues and 2 Flutes in 1 hand you immediately get Lord of D. Convinced he doesn't suffle.
@@weathermangohanssj4Not only that you’re not allowed to play more than one magic & trap card per turn either. Kaiba did not care at all that duel for playing 3 magic cards in one turn
Actually, had Lumis taken Kaiba's hand and attempted to summon Obelisk, Obelisk would have straight up killed him. Only a chosen few are allowed to summon an Egyptian God card. If you are not chosen by a Millenium Item, or if you do not have some direct ties to a Millenium Item, the God Card will straight up reject you and end up killing you. It'll then leave Umbra to fend for himself while Yugi and Kaiba effectively gang up on Umbra, which will then lead to Marik possessing Umbra and ending the duel rather abruptly.
He could’ve took Kaiba’s hand and that was the superior play but summoning Obelisk would’ve been a fuck up. It would’ve struck him down for not having ties to Ancient Egypt
16:09 it definitely seems Ritual monsters are in the Extra Deck for Duelist Kingdom. We only see 3 (BLS, Magician of Black Chaos, and Relinquished), but in each case it's made clear what is in each player's hand, and the Ritual Monsters are definitely not in them.
@@iml908 Wasn't there a moment where yugi dueled noah and summon all 3 Magicians, including Black Magician of Chaos which is a Ritual, and it was commented as being in his Deck?
@@moisture216 I thought it was part of battle city arc, which Sam brought as a point. In that particular duel, I think the Ritual card of Magician of Chaos was either seen or referenced as being in Yugi's deck
no its being summoned from the deck ritual monsters are summoned from the hand or deck after the magic card and sacrifices are completed you just don't know hoe to ritual summon lol
28:15 that's in the anime, those monsters don't appear in the final duel in the manga, that's why the magnet warriors don't have Shinning Sarcophagus retrains, yet. Meanwhile, this duel in the anime is much closer to the manga, that's why they can screw the rules so easily, why they can use DiFusion on a main deck monster that was contact tribute summon without tributing.
Dude I'm so glad you covered this duel! I used to have the first two episodes of it on DVD but never got to finish it (I always knew how it ended but never saw the last bit of the fight) so thank you!
I want to thank you for making these videos to ding analyses of these duels I got memories of watching the yugioh episodes and I even watched the analyses of Yugioh series I haven't seen. Absolutely incredible! I was curious, are you going to do an analysis of going against Zark? I would like to see that one if possible ^^
Card Exchange is clearly a card that was invented for the anime to explain how Lumis got enough cards to activate the Chosen One. Its such a dumb card that I assumed it could only be used on your partner in tagduels The manga never kept track of handsizes (also he used less cards in general) But he still is dumb for not attacking Alfa tho.
Hey TGS Happy thanksgiving! Can't believe it's been 3.5 - 4 years since your 1st 'was X about to beat Y?' that's about as long as I've been subscribed. Good times. God bless you for keeping the good ol' times alive w/ your analyses.
For the Mask Of Restrict hangup, this is from the Yu-Gi-Oh! Wiki: Despite having the effect of its OCG/TCG counterpart printed on it, "Mask of Restrict" did not have this effect in the anime. Instead, it prevented either player from Tributing their own cards for Tribute Summons only.
26:57 As we've discovered only chosen duelists are able to use The Egyptian Gods, had Lumis and Umbra summoned Obelisk, they would've probably been struck by lightning
I've always thought Rituals should be an extra deck card, even back in the day, it feels like rituals were meant to parralel fusion monsters but somebody at konami just missed with memo, with rituals you have a specific spell but can use generic monsters, where as with fusions you have a generic "in that being Poly is how u fusion summon all fusion cards" spell but with specific monsters, since back in the day would need specific monsters for fusions typically, so it felt like they mirrored eachother almost, and rituals would have actually been a viable strategy with them in the extra deck instead of being practically useless unless made uber busted
no its being summoned from the deck ritual monsters are summoned from the hand or deck after the magic card and sacrifices are completed you just don't know hoe to ritual summon lol
Did anyone else notice the animation error at the start, After Kaiba played a pot of greed, he had 7 card's, he then emptied his hand 1 LOD X3 BWD X2 FOSD X1 Hyozanryu but after that he's seen holding one card 🤔 his hand should have been empty I would have loved Yugi to have taken out Lumis summoned Valkyrion attacks Mask beast Des Guardious Lumis haha I activate its ability now your monster is mine, Yugi not so fast Lumis I activate my De Fusion separating my Monster back into his original components, so now that your target is gone its effect fizzled, Lumis I'll get you next turn, Yugi there is no next tur for you Lumis I may have de fused my Valkyrion but it's still my battle phase and my Alpha Beta and Gamma are going to attack you directly Lumis, Lumis No save me Umbra, Yugi you're on your own, now go my magnet warriors wipe him out, Lumis 3800-2400-900-0. Yugi, it's up to you now, Kaiba. Umbra draws has to pass, Kaiba draws and uses soul exchange and wins Next video idea Bakura vs. little Yugi Joey vs. Esparoba Jack vs. Yusei round 3 Titan vs. Alexis
no its being summoned from the deck ritual monsters are summoned from the hand or deck after the magic card and sacrifices are completed you just don't know hoe to ritual summon lol
Lol i think i just figured it out. So follow me on this. They used the cursed doll or whatever. It basically negates the cost of masked cards. In the anime they are saying that the doll which is still up as well is negating the tribute cost on their side of the field. So with the doll up they can still tribute. It's kinda like how one of them is suppose to take 1000 LP every turn but he doesn't because the doll is negating that effect for them. So i think they made that doll card stronger so it is stopping the mask of restrict for them but not for Yugi and Kaiba. This is the only way i can even think of why they would be able to tribute any cards. Also it would make sense on why he was saying that yugi and kaiba can't tribute summon. In truth if this is the case then they did an amazing lock out on their opponent. Also yes tributing is a "cost" in the anime for anyone that doesn't know.
My best guess is that the anime used the OCG text for Mask of Restrict. In the manga, it said "Activate when the opponent declares the Sacrifice of a monster! That Sacrifice becomes invalid and the opponent's monsters cannot be sacrificed while this card is in play."
19:40 in rl glifer would miss timing here since it's an optional when effect and the last thing that happened was everyone drawing thier new hand. But honestly, who would think the anime would teach us about missing the timing? eh, it's fine
30:32 so I looked this up very recently. Manga Valkyrion states that it's not a physical card, but is summoned by combining the Magnet Warriors. Lol, almost sounds like Contact Fusion before GX came up with it.
TGS anime thank you from the bottom of my heart for this video. I’ve waited a long time for this and it was definitely worth the wait. This was a dream come true and I can’t imagine how hard it must have been for you to analyze 4 duelist at once. Every video you make is appreciated and it always makes me appreciate duels even more. Infinite out of 10! Excited for the next one. Here are some suggestions for future duels: Atem and Joey vs The Big 5 Atem vs Gurimo Kaiba vs Alister (both rounds if possible) Joey vs Zigfried Yugi vs Bakura (Season 5) Jaden vs Aster Phoenix (round 2) Aster Phoenix vs Sartorius Jaden vs Sartorius Chazz vs Adrian Gecko Aster Phoenix vs Adrian Gecko Jaden vs Darkness (Season 4) Yuma and Nash vs Don Thousand
Kaibas tributing the opponent's monster was not a shenanigan moment because Mask does say YOU cannot Tribute your monsters but NOT your opponents. Kaiba had the IQ of 135 in this Duel and this episode showed why Kaiba is a strategic duelist in Duel Monsters.
@@strongerthanever2039 because the anime is based on the manga and the anime staff copied the play that happened in the manga but changed the card effect for some reason
@@countdooku7133 And so, in the anime that play is no longer valid. Wich is what we are looking at right now. So bringing up the manga effect of the card is completely invalid.
24:17 - wanted to comment that I was also never aware of this, but I have a fun fact! I had a toy model of Masked Beast Des Guardius as a kid (side note, put your toys away - those spines on its back are SHARP) and the woman on its chest was replaced with some kind of green, heart-like extrusion. So, I guess it was censored in the toy even if the card wasn't censored.
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@@Soloyourfavoriteverse thank you for asking for this duel. I want to see a duel analysis of it too
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03:14 Not gonna lie, Kuriboh marvelling at how amazing Obelisk looked was both funny and cute.
Actually, I think it was Kuriboh being scared out of his fucking mind on how brutally strong that Egyptian God Monster is compared to his tiny little body.
Kuriboh is just a scared little puppy born out of its mother's womb.
Obelisk is quite literally a unholy freak of nature.
can you clarify cus i dont see kuriboh 😭
@@kurantechan6591 its right at the start of the video when Kaiba wins the first duel on his second turn.
Imagine being a little fluff ball and seeing god 😂
@@saphcal OHHH TY
Duel: hasn't even started yet
TGS Anime: "It's the penultimate turn of the duel"
The weird thing is that in the manga Lumis and Umbra were seemingly not supposed to be the same guys who got OTK’d in the previous duel and while the JP version of the anime made them look basically the same and gave them the same voice actors they also never verbally confirmed them to be the same for some reason, only dub did. Such a weird thing to me since it makes their wiki pages separate.
I think it would've been funny if they made a "they're wearing masks, they aren't the same people!" Kind of thing.
It actually makes sense in the manga. This duel isn’t shown in its entirety. So Kaiba’s insane opening hand isn’t what it is in the anime. Also Kaiba is shown having defeated another duelist after these guys. So Yugi and Kaiba are just waltzing through Battle City owning everyone. Until Lumis and Umbra show up, finally giving them a challenge.
Having the same design seems like it's less "they aren't supposed to be the same guys" and just "they aren't explicitly shown as the same guys when the anime makes it pretty apparent they are."
Does the anime explains how Lumis goes from fat to skinny?
@Zetact_ in the manga they have different jawlines so not the same. Anime maybe but not manga.
Man i just wanted to take the time to thank you for these videos.
I'm visually disabled, and I love yugioh. Having someone that understands, loves, and pays so much attention to everything go through and explain everything happening in the duels. It's amazing, and it helps me like so much hahaha.
So, yeah I just wanted leave this thank you message here 💙🐺
Thank you so much for the kind words!!! 😁 Hope I can keep making content that you can enjoy!
Wow i didn't even think of it that way. Personally i just enjoy someone enthusiastically going back and going so in depth on this series like he does but I'm glad this has been able to benefit you directly as a result! Reminds me of Serenity and that kid giving her updates as she recovers from her surgery.
You don't have to explain your disability, but I am curious if you've ever seen the card art or whatever before. I find it interesting how someone would get into Yu-Gi-Oh! with a vision disability since I feel like so much of the appreciation of it would come from the aesthetics.
@Voidaken omg of course! I don't mind talking about my disability, more people should do that actually! Lol
So, i was born visually disabled, I still have some vision, it's about 20% of a "notmal" vision. So, yes I can see the art work on the cards, I love them of course! But for example, names, levels, effects, atk/def poins, i can't normally, so I have to memorize as many cards as I can to be able to play. Which actually ends up saving me and whoever I'm playing with time, cause idk like 8 times out of 10 I know the effects word from word of the majority of the cards I use hahahahaha. That's why I prefer the dub version of the cards actually, since fhe image is bigger it's much easier for me to see and appreciate their details, and like I said, I'm doing any reading any way, so lol.
In defense of the tributes:
-Ritual Summon is a special type of tribute summon
-Contact Fusion is a special type of tribute summon
-Obelisk is not a monster, IT'S A GOD!
1- Ritual Might need tributes but its also a Special Summon style
2- True, Though in Valkyrion's case its a unique special summon requirement
3- Remember that Anime Egyptian God cards are extremely powerful and (in a sense) Immune to card effects (See Kaiba vs Aigami for another Obelisk Bypass)
For Valkryion, I would say it’s more like there was no tribute.
Valkyrion is literally just the three monsters
@@FoxhoundClass03😂 it is crazy to see the God Cards go "Get that dollar store Trap out of my way"
@@FoxhoundClass03 Yes, I kind of wish Kaiba just said that trap cards do not work on God Cards. It would have made more sense. In fact, it would have just been easier if the rule was, "You could not tribute summon." I know what the card says, and I know the true rules for Obelisk, but it is the anime.
In total seriousness this is exactly how it works in the manga. Rituals are transformations, Valkyrion is a combination monster, and the god cards are well... Gods.
Thank you for conTRIBUTING this long awaited duel analysis. I can't wait for you to TRIBUTE the duel analysis, Yugi Vs. Bakura (Dawn of the Duel) & Kaiba Vs. Alister (Both duels) sometime in the future.
@@ColeMeCrazy I second the motion, though it could be done in a 4-2 analysis like DSOD.
2-1 #1: Was Yami Bakura about to defeat Yugi/Kaiba
2-1 #2: Was Alister about to defeat Kaiba (Dual Duels)
About Mask of Restrict, similarly to Battle Ox being a Lv. 6 in the Manga, and a Lv. 4 in the Anime, the effect of the card differs in both medias. In the manga, Mask of Restrict's effect reads "Your opponent cannot offer any of his monsters as tribute". This is how Kaiba and Yugi figured the loophole to summon Obelisk, they can't tribute their own monsters, but if they have the means to it, they can still tribute the enemy's monsters. Kaiba even teases the Masked Brothers about it in the manga, saying "Next time, you should read your own cards properly". So, yeah, like many of the duels in Yu-Gi-Oh Duel Monsters, this is another instance of a Duel being screwed by how the anime decided to change a lot of things.
The effect in the game could be justified if the effect of masked doll alters mask of restrict to only work for your opponent. Like if they were to print mask doll for the ocg or tcg, they would need to add in an extra line to the effect like “if mask of restrict is on the field, it’s effect changes to “monsters on your opponents side of the field cannot be tributed.”
Having read the Manga, it did make sense.
Yeah I was thinking the same thing when it was brought up in this video. Immediately searched for the manga version and it specified that detail
Once you know these things happen from time to time, it's easy to assume it was a lost in translation from manga to anime issue.
It would still apply to the Tributes for The Masked Beast's ritual summon, and would still apply to the tributes of the Magnet Warriors for Valkyrion. The simplest fix is if Mask of Restrict prevent Tributing your own monsters for a Tribute Summon (which would work if it was a hard counter to the Egyptian God cards). So it seems like everyone and every medium fucked this up.
@@PolishSasquatch No, it wouldn't. The card in the manga reads "Your opponent cannot offer any of his monsters as tribute". It literally states that it only applies to the opponent. This an anime exclusive f- up
Fun fact at the end. if lumis just passed his turn instead of trying to flee it would be yugi's turn. He would take 500 damage because of mask of dispell on his multiply and lose the duel. Atleast he could kill yugi by throwing him to his death then some random could pick up Slifer.
Just imagining the anime ending like that. XD Yugi's corpse at the bottom of the building surrounded by glass and Umbra's body and some kid walking by just picks up Slifer like "Oh sweet card. I wonder how much I could sell it for?"
Wow you're right. I don't think yugi nor kaiba had any backrow removal to save Yugi either. Which is stupid of both of h them, but hey. Guess MST'ing or feather dusting everything wouldn't be as fun a watch.
I always figured that was kind of Kaiba's plan. Take out Umbra, Lumis sets something, Yugi dies, Kaiba beats Lumis, and Kaiba claims Slifer as the sole victor of the match.
Would be interesting for TGS to do a "What if?" for the rest of the Battle City Arc with this outcome in mind.
1. Jean Claude Magnum makes it to the finals and duels Yami Bakura.
2. Mind slave Joey probably means Odion doesn't play Winged Dragon of Ra, meaning no Yami Marik via that match.
3. Less Evil Marik vs Mai.
Semi-finals completely different.
That said, the Quarter finals would probably have to be rearranged too, just to make it more narratively fitting.
Like I said, it'd be a fun "What if?"
@rickyl3819 thars an interesting what if. But kaiba definitely wouldn't simply let Yami die that way. You see how far he goes post OG series to get back at him one last time after yami's put to rest because he accepts yugi isn't Yami (despite him STILL being skeptical of Egyptian magic lol) and wants to properly beat Yami himself.
But hey, if neither of them could remove the backrow it might be an interesting and somber rest of the arc.
Its less interesting in the manga, since Dispel only does 300 damage a turn there.
See the original writer was not dumb enough to leave Yugi technically dead after that turn.
In the Manga, or at least Viz's translation, Mask of Restric says "Your opponent cannot offer any of his monsters as a tribute." Since this duel is pretty close to the manga, that is way they can summon the Ritual, and why Kaiba can tribute other monsters but not his owns.
You know how many times it's been errataed IRL?
@@Lobomaru02how many times? This video also made me realize this thing must be a ruling nightmare 😂
@Lobomaru02 four times. Which is weird due to how it's gone from "Can't tribute Monsters" to "Can't tribute" to "Can't tribute Cards"
just...... Brain. exe crashed.
@@GitsuneG It's because there are now cards like the True Draco cards that can use Spells/Traps as Tributes.
@@Felnal So I heard from users at Reddit, when I researched about Mask of Restrict.
Ironically enough in this tag team duel, it was Kaiba the main character who denounced the evils of truth and love
But did he extend his reach to the stars above?
@@darkknight5541considering aliens duel in Go Rush… I would say maybe
@@darkknight5541 He blasted Jaden's cards into space with a ROCKET! It all fits!
I guess Lumis & Umbra should have surrendered now instead of preparing for a fight.
Kuriboh: *Insert Kuriboh sounds here to say - yeah that's right!*
@@xIceman9362x I first read "insert Kuriboh sounds" as "insert Little Kuriboh speaking as Atem" and I don't know why I would find that hilarious
"Obelisk the Tormentor arise and seek your ultimate revenge!"
Still an badass line from the anime itself, Huge props to Eric Stuart for that line delivery.
The teary face of Kuriboh when it sees Obelisk OTK Lumis and Umbra is hilarious.😂
Not gonna lie I'd be teary eyed too if my opponent or partner top decked that GOD tier hand first draw on a whim..... That's like Zane tier luck drawing all three blue eyes (normally a MASSIVE brick), 2 ways to special summon them, AND pot of greed to immediately draw one more way to summon them AND Obelisk.... I mean waht a MOVE opening with Obelisk summoned from 3 blue eyes AND getting off it's 2 tribute Raigeki effect. And remember...this is a 60 card deck he's playing with. the anime characters presumably always run the full 60 card deck.
„Don’t worry, lil guy. One day, you’ll put him in his place.“
@@johannesneumayer6041 I understood that reference.
"How dare you mock the might of Obelisk with that furball!" Seto Kaiba during the Battle City Semi Finals
Bro I’ve been WAITING for this one. This is my favorite duel in the first series
You have excellent taste!
For me, the cliffhanger of ending the episode right when Kaiba summons his Blue-Eyes, laughing triumphantly. I can’t even begin to describe how ten year old me felt.
We don't get enough tag duels. Fingers crossed we get Judai and Aster vs Sartorious's sister
@@ryhi5 This episode is what got me back into the series as an adult. I remembered it but never saw the resolution of the duel. Watched the remainder of the duel then proceeded to rewatch the whole series
After randomly learning about propreante, preante, and ante to preface penultimate as 2 years ago, hearing them being used for real is both kinda surreal, but also weirdly validating in a way.
Wait-
.....are those terms legit?
Huh. Learn something new everyday
Obelisk punching the Mirror Force the way it did was an epic yet insane moment. I would like to see Dumon and Marin Vs Vector next since I feel like they could’ve won.
Marin was going to win! Vector was about to make a huge misplay, but then Don Thousand bailed him out of trouble!
Short answer, had Don Thousand not been holding Vector’s hand, then yes, Vector would have lost.
Would love to see that duel covered as well.
@@ryhi5 Yeah I think so too
AND TO INVOKE HIS PROPHETIC RIGHT AND GIVE ME SERAPH SUPPORT
Also, Marin has a set card she DID NOT PLAY! And she played it on the first turn.
@@ryhi5 That is true but it would be interesting to see how he would analyze the duel and the puns he would make.
Mask of Restrict must have been pissed seeing all these tributes occuring like "Your all ignoring me and doing whatever"
My guy is photogenic as hell sheeeeeeeshh
I didn't know you like Yu-Gi-Oh as well.
I do like Yugioh and TGS’ content, been watching his videos for a few years now. Actually before Master Duel and Speed Duels I just used to watch him and another channel. That was the entirety of my Yugioh content for some time!
But… I also work for NAnimerica hence why I commented early 😂
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@ That’s Pretty Cool me too I seen His Content A few years as well
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When Zera the Mant was summoned by bandit Keith, Yugi specifically states in the dub “what are the odds that you have both the ritual spell and the monster to summon” so I don’t think they are extra deck monsters
Never trust the dub when it comes about making dialogue analysis in regards to the story.
Sweet, now we need Hassleberry and Syrus vs Lightning and Frost
Imma be real with you chief, you might have taken the award for the most forgotten duel in GX.
@@isaagamerplays it helps that I just finished rewatching the series
That duel.
Can confirm if Frost didn't waste his time toying around. They would have beaten Syrus way earlier leaving Hassleberry to fend off Frost and Thunder.
Hassleberry and Syrus should have lost way sooner
I’d say Jaden vs Gravekeeper’s Chief myself. But I think I sort of skimmed over that when watching the whole series, so that might be on me.
😂
Since there's only like one Mask card that has a maintenance cost, ima say the the Masked Doll card doesn't negate the maintenance cost, but just makes the detrimental effects of masked cards not effect you, which would mean their monsters wouldn't be affected by Mask of Restrict so they could be used for the Ritual summon. This could also vaguely explain why Kaiba could tribute summon Obelisk through Soul Exchange, as the magnet warriors being on Umbras field would be unaffected by Restrict, meaning they could be tributed. As for how Yugi even summoned Valkyrion...it's Yugi
In the anime they made a terrible job with mask of restrict. In the manga the effect says "negate the sacrifice and opponent's monsters can't be tributed while this card is in play".
Great video, great duel analysis, can you do next "Was Bakura about to defeat Yugi" in the pharaoh memory series?
Oh, I forgot, in the manga, in the text card of Alpha, Beta and Gamma it is said "Alpha Beta and Gamma combine themeselves into a powerful monster"
Or, like the Dark Side of Dimensions with Aigami, "Was Bakura about to defeat Kaiba/Yugi" in the very same sense
Well, Bakura would have won on his last turn if he didn't get greedy and over extend by summoning Necro Jar to mill four more of Yugi's cards, because then he wouldn't have drawn Gandora and he would have lost when his turned ended as he would have lost the last four cards in his Deck due to Counter Balance.
@@zexalbrony4799 Correct, he should've just ended his turn when Yugi had few cards left
One correction: If Lumis summoned Obelisk to the field after exchanging hands with Kaiba, it would have backfired and killed him. Only Pharaohs and Tomb Keepers can Summon God Cards without negative consequences so if he had tired, he would have ironically lost the duel. Taking Kaiba's hand would have been the smart play but if he went full-on with it, he would have defeated himself.
Beat me by four hours 🤣
Not really. Mai was able to summon Ra and while not able to use it, it didnt strike her down, unlike odion who used a fake. Strings also used slifer even though he was possessed by a tomb keeper i think a god wouldnt like to be summoned by a puppet. Even filler guy from Waking dragons used obelisk with no downside. The Gods arent picky about who uses them just dont be disrespectful
@NeroLucifarious with Mai it refused to acknowledge her yes, but with Strings, his mind and soul were not in control. Marik's was so it was still Mairk summoning it. When it came to the waking Dragons, it showed that the Orichalcos surpassed the Gods at the time so he was able to Summon it, throughout the entire duel he was suffering from the strain to keep Obelisk under control and without the seal, it would have likely fought back and killed Grimo
@@NeroLucifarious did you somehow missed the part that the guy from Orichalcos only managed to do that because the Orichalcos was keeping Obelisk under control?
"No matter what the situation, neither player can offer any monster as a Tribute." is the original text on Mask of Restrict's first printing. Tag duel? No tributes. Ritual Summon? No tributes. Category 4 hurricane warning blasting on the TV? No tributes. An intruder has broken into your home and has a gun? No tributes. Parents fighting in the next room your dueling your friend over from? You know the answer.
The Edna Mode of old school Yu-gi-oh.
Wouldn’t Kaiba would have been attack Shining Abyss during his first turn? It was in Defense with only 800 points.
@@vernongomes Nobody can attack on the first turn of a tag duel.
@@Amitlu I thought it’s only for the team that goes first. At that point, everybody else has gone once. In GX with Syrus/Jaden vs Paradox bros, I believe the 4th person to go was able to attack.
@@vernongomes Well then the anime just adapted the duel wrong since why would they summon Shining Abyss in defense mode to begin with?
I'm pretty sure everyone else has already pointed this out but the duel is similar to how it was in the manga which means that it was based off of how the card works in the manga. In the manga the card stated that the opponent cannot tribute any of their own monsters. This means that they can use the opponent's monsters as tribute to summon which is the loophole that Yugi and Kaiba. Also ritual summon and contact fusions (specifically the way that kaiba does contact fusion since there are multiple ways to contact fuse) are still considered special summons even though they require tribute so they are also a loophole.
Also I think they forgot to change it in the anime to match the manga which is why the translations are different.
Also Also I actually don't think it would affected Obelisk anyways because it's a God card and we know that traps can't directly affect God cards to a degree.
That masked of restrict card might as well have said that, "you cannot piss backwards on Fridays....wearing crocs only" 😂
Honest that whole ritual thing was hinted at during duelist kingdom. When pegasus read yugi's mind during his duel against mai, "He is attempting the legendary Black Luster Ritual". On yugi's last turn he drew "Black Luster Ritual" and played it immediately opened the gates to chaos and out popped Black Luster Soldier. Was the same thing during his duel against pegasus. "Black Illusion Ritual" was the only card yugi had in his possession on the field alongside dark magician his hand was empty.
dose anybody read the rules? rituals are summoned from the hand or deck if you activate the magic card and meet its conditions
Now we need Jesse, Axel and Jim vs the Three Masked Goons Marcel/Yubel hired
I second this
I just watched that duel last week. Was insane.
I third this.
18:23 Masked Doll is still on the field. Its effect (according to a translation on the wiki) is more or less “When a Mask card would affect you or an ally, negate that effect for you or your ally only”.
Edit: You can see for a brief moment at 22:16 that it’s a continuous spell, so there isn’t any Multiply shenanigans
Worth noting that the official manga translation for Mask of Restrict in this duel is:
“Your opponent cannot offer any of his monsters as a Tribute”
Which does leave those loopholes open. Yugi merges his magnet warriors into Valkyrion, and Kaiba tributes monsters his opponent controls.
It would have been easier for them to do that. Mask of Restrict could still have the "no monsters can be tribute effect" for the real world but change the text for the anime. I know there are people that hate when cards have different OP effects in the anime, but we have to accept that the anime is aimed at making exciting duels. Real world is about having duels that can be won quickly but be fair.
Man Yugioh is the most inconsistent anime i've ever seen! And I love it to death!
16:08 This is absolutely the case both in the manga fully (unless it changes in R or GX) and in Duelist Kingdom. I’d never considered it for Battle City, but it lines up with them not altering the hands to match this discrepancy. By the time of the Virtual World filler arc, they were following the proper rules.
A pity: Rituals might have been a much better mechanic had they been Extra Deck monsters. Though in the manga it requires using a specific monster as the base sacrifice that is getting transformed and others that equal half its resultant attack, so… yeah.
Also, for clarity, Mask of Restrict’s manga effect only stops the opponent from tributing their monsters and required them trying to as an activation condition. Another case of the animators showing the card here with its real-world text without considering the knock-on effect.
The manga having cards that activate BEFORE a summon is just goofy fun.
28:34 the way I see these anime duels are scripted and made in such a way by the anime staff for shock value. Rather then true authenticity (to the point anime cards have outright different effects then the OCG/TCG) so I am okay with “weird rulings”
no its being summoned from the deck ritual monsters are summoned from the hand or deck after the magic card and sacrifices are completed you just don't know hoe to ritual summon lol
I think in the early yugioh there was no such thing as an ''extra deck'' and the fusion and ritual monsters were just spawning into existence. Like thing about it, how did Yugi have a Red eyes fusion in his extra deck during duelist kingdom when Joey just got red eyes ? I think the logic was ''i am using this spell (poly or ritual spell) so it basically creates the appropriate monster to summon'' (a fitting fusion monster or the ritual monster the spell is supposed to summon)
This 100%. If you look closely on the Duel Arena field in Duelist Kingdom you can see this in action- when Yugi plays Gaia the Dragon Champion did you notice that Polymerization and Gaia the Fierce Knight and Curse of Dragon are all face up on board even though its supposedly one fusion monster? Check out the Weevil duel in Ep 4 and 5! Or Gaia being transformed into BLS when yugi had no ritual in hand and only topdecked the ritual spell? In the manga Black Luster Ritual tributes two monsters (“one to the light and one to the darkness”) to TRANSFORM Gaia into BLS, thats why in the anime when he tribute Kuriboh Gaia gallops into the light (“open the gates of chaos”). The anime cut Griffore from the cost, making Kuriboh and Gaia equal eight stars, but still had Gaia transform into BLS instead of another level seven like Dark Magician
Not to mention the times when monsters randomly become other monsters like harpie sisters, the metal versions of zoa and red-eyes or dark sage.
Also how monsters just turn into their toon versions
I was under the impression that this was specifically just Duelist Kingdom and that Kaiba added a “Fusion Deck” alongside “Tribute Summoning” but I could be wrong.
@@WDinATX Perhaps but but ''rituals'' might have still be under those rules at the time. Battle city was just a weird mix of ''kinda real game but also not'' just like how you have the spells being able to be used as quick spells thing
@@JunkoEnoshima. Fair enough. It also explains why Zera the Mant was super duper expensive because people suddenly needed a rare physical card to do what they previously could’ve done without it.
26:45 The problem with that idea is that Obelisk would probably kill the guy.
Yes, he would. That is literally in the anime if you’re not chosen by the card and you try and use it, it will murder you.
@@scottdreemurrthegodofcreationAside from that duel where Yugi won Slifer, but I guess that rare Hunter was being controlled by Marik at the time so maybe that counts as Marik using it.
@@LouisKing995Osiris could just be chill like that as well possibly
@@oxcare5wasn’t it just a mime doll that Marik controlled
3:19 kuribo admiring the Egyptian god is the cutest thing ever
That's when Kuriboh decided to get a gym membership
Kuriboh all the homies love kuriboh
I freaking love Kuribo's little eye watering effect when Obelisk solos the first duel.
Sooo for 18:11. Based off the text of Masked Doll being "A doll that takes ally-affecting mask curses upon itself., both Mask and curses having links to the Mask Archetype and Negative effects respectfully, I think Masked Doll would prevent the effect of Mask of Restrict, that or based off the notes section for the Anime card itself, its meant to only stop tribute summons, specifically using your own for a tribute summon for a card you own which is how Kaiba bypasses it with Obelisk
Also look at 28:40, Masked Doll does indeed negate all drawbacks so Lumis and Umbra can tribute cards ( or have them tributed). But this also means that anime Valkyrion can be “contact fused” and “de-fused”. Furthermore, in the Scripted Duel which uses anime rules 2012 Providence, Valkyrion is an extra deck monster not in Yugi’s hand- in this duel, like in early manga or the Legendary Dragon fusions, some rituals or fusions are “transformations” and are either stored in the extra deck or materialize when the correct card is played on the correct monster- no cards in hand required!
@@SuperSayianWarrior Ally-affecting mask curses eh? But the question then becomes, does Mask of Restrict affect the Tributes or the monster they are tributed for? I think it is supposed to restrict the mechanic of Tributing, not monsters. If for some reason it affects the Tributes, then it is accepable. If it affects the mechanic of Tributing or the monster they're tributed for, then Lumis and Umbra would still suffer from mask of restrict
I think I know why Mask of Restrict is working this way. So, in the Dub, Umbra states that his continuous spell, Masked Doll, absorbs any and all negative effects of all their Mask Cards. Masked Doll is absorbing that negative effect. So, all the plays where Lumis & Umbra cards are tributed are fine.
ahhh so it's a mind game! That actually sounds genuinely valid. Like negating your own spell but your opponent forgets so they play as if the spell is real.
Plus despite all the claims of "cheating", the system wouldn't have allowed the plays to be made if they were actually against the rules. (or at least I don't think Kaiba would've left such a loop hole in the system HE built). I know a later series directly points this out when a character tries to make an illegal play and isn't able to (likely Yuma from Zexal). Got me what's going on in Duelist Kingdom, but given Pegasus built that and he's just the card artist, it's unlikely Kaiba would've let any of that slide anyway since he takes the game very seriously.
I have wondered about that as well but then the burn damage Yugi takes should also have been negated... Or an any of the debuffing effects. If masks of restrict negative effect are also absorbed for the enemy then so would any of the other cards.
@@DodacLA isn't the doll only absorbing the negative effects for the owner of the card? So the negative effects of masked cards don't get applied on Umbra's and Lumis' side?
Yet, the card is for maintenance not just negative affects.
The dub probably noticed the problem and tried to fix it, whereas the sub just tried to be manga accurate.
7:31 Actually the possible reason for this error is that Battle Ox’s role in the manga was taken by Gadget Soldier, a 4-star monster there (hence why he has it later in his duel against Ishsizu), which was made 6-star for the real-life card. Probably the dialogue was written before the duel writer realised “shoot, gotta swap Gadget Soldier for a 4-star monster for later” and missed updating the dialogue.
27:46
The only sorta defense I can make for the difference in these 2 plays, is that Yugi makes sure to have all the Magnet Warriors on the field when he's "transforming and combining" them, but is "tributing" them in the other duel because he's discarding them directly from the hand.
A bit of shenanigans that goes against the card text for sure, but at least slightly more believable in that sense.
1:33 I don't remember this duel at all I just remember the tag duel on top of that skyscraper 😂😂
I don’t think those are even Lumis and Umbra. They are just a couple of randos with similar body shapes that the dubbing studio thought were the same guys haha
@@SWad250 Yeah it's only brought up in the English release with it only alluded in the Japanese release by Lumis and the short Rare Hunter both being voiced by Yu Mizushima as well as Umbra and the tall Rare Hunter being voiced by Koji Ishi but in the manga those rare hunters aren't named
@SWad250 yes they was they say it in the beginning of the 2st one he sat to yugi you guys won't beat us so easy this time are decks was made to beat u now
@@TheRedMage01I think it is even better this way. They tried, they got absolutely raped, and decided to prepare better for round 2.
@@peteryanes3413 That's the dub
Interesting find on Battle City rituals. That makes what I'm hearing on rush duels even more interesting. Word on the street is that rituals are coming to it as Extra Deck monsters.
I honestly always just assumed that either the ritual monster cards were just being created magically or that they were extra deck monsters in the early anime. I always liked that idea when dueling with my friends too.
100%this is how early manga and GBA yugioh games work! Kind of like how dark magician girl is still on the field while magically “transformed” into a “fusion” dragon knight in the Rafael duel, but she isnt in the grave so Yugi takes less damage from Purity if the Cemetery
For a long time, I've wanted Konami to change the rules of Ritual monsters to make them more viable. Something like this:
1. A Ritual monster can be Special Summoned without a Ritual card from the hand by tributing monsters from the hand or field with the same total number of stars. Maybe make it so it can't attack this turn as the cost of circumventing the ritual.
2. A Ritual monster can be Special Summoned from the hand without tribute if an appropriate Ritual spell is activated.
3. A Ritual monster can be Special Summoned from the Deck or Graveyard by tributing monsters with the same or more stars from the hand or field when the appropriate Ritual spell card is activated.
This would give Ritual monsters a lot more flexibility, and minimize the instances of the monsters or spell cards being dead cards in hand. If you have one or the other, you have to sacrifice stuff to play it.
Given even in modern Yugioh anime, extra deck cards just magically appear in the pockets of the duelists mid duel.... that's kind of an anime rule in general. XD How else did Yuma just randomly get like 13 forms of Utopia? or Yuya getting the fusion versions of his counter parts dragons without checking his pockets before the duels? XD Always found that amusing, but in their defense. they don't seem to get cards like we do in the real world.
no its being summoned from the deck ritual monsters are summoned from the hand or deck after the magic card and sacrifices are completed you just don't know hoe to ritual summon lol
In the famous words of Lionel Richie:
"Wooo, what a feeling! When you're falling through the ceiling!"
Gotta love the Abridged series.
Here's hoping that after Odion, Lumis/Umbra are the next DM characters to get legacy support as their Mask series of cards were really cool.
That first tag team duel was over before it even began.
16:17 You also forgot the duelist kingdom where the same happens. They summon rituals without having the monster in hand, just the spell and the materials
True, but trying to make any sense of Duelist Kingdom's Rules is just a nightmare
Could also argue that’s how Dark Sage is seeming just made on the spot when Joey uses Time Wizard to age Dark Magician. I can see a case where these cards are in either the extra deck or just the conditions are met so they are pulled into the game from someone’s collection
@@JosephCWest tbf dark sage can be summoned from the deck
In fairness...Rituals frankly should've been extra deck in the first place. They are a good way to get rid of ANY high level brick from your hand though, but the fact that you have to draw their unique spell AND the card itself always felt like a case of "why....design them like that?" They'd have been fine as a card with thier specific poly spell but can use ANY monsters at least the level total of the card. I'd like to see how they'd work with that idea in mind.
Makes sense in cannon too. If Yami had BMoC monster in his hand, it wouldn't matter if Yugi put the ritual on the field facedown... Pegasus would see it coming. He clearly didn't have a clue.
Minor thing, Lumis and Umbra using Exchange to take Kaiba’s hand and summon Obelisk wouldn’t work because you have to be worthy or win the god cards in a duel to use them, so Obelisk would have killed the one who would have summoned it and knocked them out of the duel, like Ra with Odion.
9:43 it’s because in the manga mask of tribute effect was different so it basically a problem with adapting the card
When you said ritual monsters are being summoned from the extra deck, that could be the case OR it could be an animation error. Because in the first duel Kaiba had seven cards in his hand, but he used them when he summoned the 3 blue-eyes, lord of d, hyozanryu, and the 2 flutes of summoning dragon. Which means Kaiba's hand would be empty, but it still shows him holding 3 cards. So it possibly could be an animation error.
no its being summoned from the deck ritual monsters are summoned from the hand or deck after the magic card and sacrifices are completed you just don't know hoe to ritual summon lol
"Magic shadow box"
Lad
It's a bomb
The magic shadow box will open a portal to the shadow realm and you’ll fall but you’ll never reach the bottom!!!!!
Honestly that sounds worse than falling 50 stories to your death 😅
And it’s not a saw blade! It’s a Dark Energy Disk!
The boxes are so funny to me. I can get behind all of the other 4Kids changes, but they already made the death drop go into the shadow realm, so the boxes didn't have to be shadow too. They didn't even edit them like the "dark energy disks"!
@@andrewbost4490
They could have been like:
Your LP is tied to these devices, when your LP hits 0, the glass will shatter and drop you 30 stories down... hope you brought a parachute.
"The explosives will blow up this glass, which divides this world and the Shadow Realm" would have sounded more realistic, if they wanted to avoid making references to death.
That's a great discovery about rituals, I can totally see ritual monsters be extra deck monsters.
Also, they did screw the rules with Masked Beast, and they couldn't do that. Mask of restrict is very clear on the effect.
Other comments have mentioned that most of this duels... for lack of a better term... "choreography" is based on the manga adaptation, but was poorly transcripted over to the anime.
Mask of Restrict... in the Manga... apparently only applies to the opponents monsters, which explains why Lumis and Umbra were able to Tribute for the Ritual spell, and why Soul Exchange worked to bring out Obelisk
As for the Magnet Warriors being tributed into Valkyrion, that has it's own reason; in the manga, the combined form wasn't actually a physical card... which meant that the "Transform and combine" line was meant to be literally what happened.
Yui-Gi-Oh! 5D's finale duel: Yusei Fudo vs. Jack Atlas. You could also do was Antinomy about to defeat Yusei, was Sherri about to defeat Akiza and Crow.
In fairness with Antinomy, him being close to beating Yusei was deliberate as he was trying to teach Yusei how to do Delta Accel Syncro (or basically synchro with 2 synchro tuners) so Yusei would've lost if he didn't figure out he could do this to summon Quasar dragon. I don't think Antinomy was trying to win anyway, just push Yusei to the limit so he was forced to do an extremely advanced play. Still would be interesting to see how the duel could've changed though like if Antinomy DID deliberately scoop just to give Yusei a chance or if Yusei could've actually won without getting to Quasar.
28:15 BTW in the manga Valkyrion WAS a Contact Fusion, by SENDING.
HA.
Not really. Fusions and Rituals are not physical cards. Fusions are combination of monsters on the field and in the manga all the components still on the field.
13:35 My money is that Kaibacorp/Industrial Illusions continuously errata's Yugi's cards, and he slowly powercreeps them down into game mechanics, since Kaiba is sick and tired of Yugi breaking the game so he wins.
In defense of obelisk and the other 2 gods. They literally have a line of text that says their summon CANNOT be negated. Which means mask of restrict does nothing to stop obelisk from coming out
Mask of restrict doesn't negate tributes it just flat out doesn't let you so no it is screwing the rules
16:04 Ritual monsters are being introduce in the Go Rush! and they seem to be extra deck monsters. Then, this video with this segment comes out making me think that the world works in mysterious ways.
In the early days of the manga and GBA yugioh games, rituals were indeed extra deck monsters! Or rather, they didnt exist at all. Much like the Legendary Dragon fusions, when the correct spell was played under the right conditions, one monster would transform into the ritual. This is why Gaia the Fierce Knight is tied to BLS- play the spell and tribute two non-Gaia cards and then Gaia transforms into BLS. No ritual monster needed in the hand, if you need it at all its in the extra! Cool that rush duels are doing this too, it makes rituals more accessible!
Also, this early on Valkyrion is also an extra deck monster, not in Yugis hand. He absolutely contact fuses it here, no Mask of Restrict shenanigans!
to be fair, ritual monsters weren't shown in player's hands in duelist kingdom, so it wasn't just a battle city thing.
@@AlexZandor24 I think you're basically spot on here - before we codified the game of Yu-Gi-Oh into print, the entire series was kind of wishy-washy. Duelist Kingdom having most of the examples, but also things like fusion monsters just kinda appearing out of nowhere (because I doubt that our duelists just so happened to have the specific fusion monster in their extra decks). Ritual monsters must be the same - they exist outside of the duel and you can grab it from a database whenever you finally summon it or something.
@@AlexZandor24 So... most Ritual monsters weren't even created, they were just regular monster cards that transformed into ritual cards via Spell, Trap or Monster effect conditions that were in effect.
So, does this hold true for the accompanying Yu-Gi-Oh series?
@@nicholasdaniel2778 No, only Duel Monsters
Yeah, this is one of those duels that becomes a ruling headache due to the changes between the manga and anime.
In the manga, Mask of Restrict was a one-sided floodgate that only stopped the opponent from tributing their own monsters, so the Ritual Summon and the Soul Exchange Obelisk play were valid. Valkyrion was also a "contact fusion monster" (there was no physical Valkyrion card; Alpha's, Beta's, and Gamma's card text just say they can combine with each other to form a powerful monster), so nothing was actually tributed to summon it.
You can't convince me Kaiba doesn't have the most insane luck. All 3 Blues and 2 Flutes in 1 hand you immediately get Lord of D.
Convinced he doesn't suffle.
Kaiba knows every card in his deck by heart. He shuffles, but knows exactly how to keep what he wants on top.
He also cheated as the esperoba duel showed you can't play two copies of the same card in the same turn.
@@weathermangohanssj4Not only that you’re not allowed to play more than one magic & trap card per turn either. Kaiba did not care at all that duel for playing 3 magic cards in one turn
Actually, had Lumis taken Kaiba's hand and attempted to summon Obelisk, Obelisk would have straight up killed him. Only a chosen few are allowed to summon an Egyptian God card. If you are not chosen by a Millenium Item, or if you do not have some direct ties to a Millenium Item, the God Card will straight up reject you and end up killing you. It'll then leave Umbra to fend for himself while Yugi and Kaiba effectively gang up on Umbra, which will then lead to Marik possessing Umbra and ending the duel rather abruptly.
He could’ve took Kaiba’s hand and that was the superior play but summoning Obelisk would’ve been a fuck up. It would’ve struck him down for not having ties to Ancient Egypt
28:12
Never have I ever expected you to say ‘I have the receipts’
It’s peak funny 😂
16:09 it definitely seems Ritual monsters are in the Extra Deck for Duelist Kingdom. We only see 3 (BLS, Magician of Black Chaos, and Relinquished), but in each case it's made clear what is in each player's hand, and the Ritual Monsters are definitely not in them.
@@iml908 Wasn't there a moment where yugi dueled noah and summon all 3 Magicians, including Black Magician of Chaos which is a Ritual, and it was commented as being in his Deck?
@@RC_ALBHe said Duelist Kingdom. That’s Virtual World arc
@@moisture216 I thought it was part of battle city arc, which Sam brought as a point. In that particular duel, I think the Ritual card of Magician of Chaos was either seen or referenced as being in Yugi's deck
no its being summoned from the deck ritual monsters are summoned from the hand or deck after the magic card and sacrifices are completed you just don't know hoe to ritual summon lol
24:26 Wow that is... quite the detail I've never noticed... early Yugioh card art at its finest
28:15 that's in the anime, those monsters don't appear in the final duel in the manga, that's why the magnet warriors don't have Shinning Sarcophagus retrains, yet. Meanwhile, this duel in the anime is much closer to the manga, that's why they can screw the rules so easily, why they can use DiFusion on a main deck monster that was contact tribute summon without tributing.
God I wish we actually got Magnet Shining Sarcophagus cards, the deck right now is either you can finish with Gandora or you are a sitting duck
Dude I'm so glad you covered this duel! I used to have the first two episodes of it on DVD but never got to finish it (I always knew how it ended but never saw the last bit of the fight) so thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
17:10 yes actually. In rush go they just introduced ritual summoning and suprise surprise it's from the extra deck 😊
But thats so dumb
I want to thank you for making these videos to ding analyses of these duels I got memories of watching the yugioh episodes and I even watched the analyses of Yugioh series I haven't seen. Absolutely incredible! I was curious, are you going to do an analysis of going against Zark? I would like to see that one if possible ^^
Been expecting this one for a long time
3:11
Unhinged Kaiba 💀
If there is a Trollage face Kaiba then this it it atleast officially lol
Card Exchange is clearly a card that was invented for the anime to explain how Lumis got enough cards to activate the Chosen One. Its such a dumb card that I assumed it could only be used on your partner in tagduels
The manga never kept track of handsizes (also he used less cards in general)
But he still is dumb for not attacking Alfa tho.
Hey TGS Happy thanksgiving! Can't believe it's been 3.5 - 4 years since your 1st 'was X about to beat Y?' that's about as long as I've been subscribed. Good times. God bless you for keeping the good ol' times alive w/ your analyses.
Ok if my "partner" uses "card exchange" on me like that, that's where the duel stops. It's PVP now, and friendly fire is perma-on 😂
In that Zera the Mant example, Keith had both Zera and Zera Ritual in his hand. He even showed them to Yugi before playing them.
For the reason we're here, skip to 4:40
For the Mask Of Restrict hangup, this is from the Yu-Gi-Oh! Wiki: Despite having the effect of its OCG/TCG counterpart printed on it, "Mask of Restrict" did not have this effect in the anime. Instead, it prevented either player from Tributing their own cards for Tribute Summons only.
26:57 As we've discovered only chosen duelists are able to use The Egyptian Gods, had Lumis and Umbra summoned Obelisk, they would've probably been struck by lightning
The Ritual monster being in the ED, makes sense because in rush duel it's going to work like that
I've always thought Rituals should be an extra deck card, even back in the day, it feels like rituals were meant to parralel fusion monsters but somebody at konami just missed with memo, with rituals you have a specific spell but can use generic monsters, where as with fusions you have a generic "in that being Poly is how u fusion summon all fusion cards" spell but with specific monsters, since back in the day would need specific monsters for fusions typically, so it felt like they mirrored eachother almost, and rituals would have actually been a viable strategy with them in the extra deck instead of being practically useless unless made uber busted
no its being summoned from the deck ritual monsters are summoned from the hand or deck after the magic card and sacrifices are completed you just don't know hoe to ritual summon lol
Anime multiply has to be one of the most insane cards ever printed in any card game lmao
Mask of Restrict: "Why'd you guys even invite me if you're gonna ignore me like that?"
Edit: TF you mean he used De-Fusion on Valkyrion?!
Valkyrion was a contact fusion monster in the manga. This duel broke rules to play out the same in the anime
Did anyone else notice the animation error at the start, After Kaiba played a pot of greed, he had 7 card's, he then emptied his hand 1 LOD X3 BWD X2 FOSD X1 Hyozanryu but after that he's seen holding one card 🤔 his hand should have been empty
I would have loved Yugi to have taken out Lumis summoned Valkyrion attacks Mask beast Des Guardious Lumis haha I activate its ability now your monster is mine, Yugi not so fast Lumis I activate my De Fusion separating my Monster back into his original components, so now that your target is gone its effect fizzled, Lumis I'll get you next turn, Yugi there is no next tur for you Lumis I may have de fused my Valkyrion but it's still my battle phase and my Alpha Beta and Gamma are going to attack you directly Lumis, Lumis No save me Umbra, Yugi you're on your own, now go my magnet warriors wipe him out, Lumis 3800-2400-900-0. Yugi, it's up to you now, Kaiba. Umbra draws has to pass, Kaiba draws and uses soul exchange and wins
Next video idea
Bakura vs. little Yugi
Joey vs. Esparoba
Jack vs. Yusei round 3
Titan vs. Alexis
"screw the rules I have money" the duel
Umbra: Ok ive got an alright hand of three here
Lumis: Yeah about that...😊😊
Ritual monsters being in the extra deck from the beginning would have made them much more viable. Nowadays it would be too overpowered
no its being summoned from the deck ritual monsters are summoned from the hand or deck after the magic card and sacrifices are completed you just don't know hoe to ritual summon lol
They were all like "screw this Mask of Restrict trap card, let's do tribute summons anyway" I would love to see Kaiba vs Alister for the next one.
Hyper-Bowl!? Lol. Hy-Per-Bow-Lee.
I just listened to that line and had to replay it 😂😂😂 I was like "what the heck did he just say?"
Genuinely, it’s one of those words I read a long time ago and used and have come this far in life without being corrected 😭
I’ve learnt a lesson today
@@TGSAnime to be fair, English is one of the hardest languages 😂😂
@TGSAnime Yeah, I'm a stickler for proper grammar so I'll call you out when ya pronounce something wrong 😆
The way they play around Mask of Restrict in this duel is like watching traveling in the NBA
on that last turn could lumis not just end his turn to make yugi lose to the effect of mask of dispel
Hearing Sam get increasingly exasperated after each shenanigan really made this video. Great work!
Lol i think i just figured it out. So follow me on this. They used the cursed doll or whatever. It basically negates the cost of masked cards. In the anime they are saying that the doll which is still up as well is negating the tribute cost on their side of the field. So with the doll up they can still tribute. It's kinda like how one of them is suppose to take 1000 LP every turn but he doesn't because the doll is negating that effect for them. So i think they made that doll card stronger so it is stopping the mask of restrict for them but not for Yugi and Kaiba. This is the only way i can even think of why they would be able to tribute any cards. Also it would make sense on why he was saying that yugi and kaiba can't tribute summon. In truth if this is the case then they did an amazing lock out on their opponent. Also yes tributing is a "cost" in the anime for anyone that doesn't know.
Tbh same
My best guess is that the anime used the OCG text for Mask of Restrict. In the manga, it said "Activate when the opponent declares the Sacrifice of a monster! That Sacrifice becomes invalid and the opponent's monsters cannot be sacrificed while this card is in play."
24:30 I mean, the claw is already doing a good job at cencorship
It probably wasn't, but I remember this as the first appearance of the Magnet Warriors and to this day I still absolutely love them.
19:40 in rl glifer would miss timing here since it's an optional when effect and the last thing that happened was everyone drawing thier new hand. But honestly, who would think the anime would teach us about missing the timing? eh, it's fine
30:32 so I looked this up very recently. Manga Valkyrion states that it's not a physical card, but is summoned by combining the Magnet Warriors. Lol, almost sounds like Contact Fusion before GX came up with it.
19:08 No it's not "Chain Disappearance"
It's "Chain Destruction"
Was looking for this comment
@@MrEternitysam same
TGS anime thank you from the bottom of my heart for this video. I’ve waited a long time for this and it was definitely worth the wait. This was a dream come true and I can’t imagine how hard it must have been for you to analyze 4 duelist at once. Every video you make is appreciated and it always makes me appreciate duels even more. Infinite out of 10! Excited for the next one. Here are some suggestions for future duels:
Atem and Joey vs The Big 5
Atem vs Gurimo
Kaiba vs Alister (both rounds if possible)
Joey vs Zigfried
Yugi vs Bakura (Season 5)
Jaden vs Aster Phoenix (round 2)
Aster Phoenix vs Sartorius
Jaden vs Sartorius
Chazz vs Adrian Gecko
Aster Phoenix vs Adrian Gecko
Jaden vs Darkness (Season 4)
Yuma and Nash vs Don Thousand
Kaibas tributing the opponent's monster was not a shenanigan moment because Mask does say YOU cannot Tribute your monsters but NOT your opponents. Kaiba had the IQ of 135 in this Duel and this episode showed why Kaiba is a strategic duelist in Duel Monsters.
The card text only says "Neither player can tribute cards". Idk where did you get all that from.
@@strongerthanever2039the manga
@@countdooku7133 This is an anime duel, why would you look at the manga version of the card?
@@strongerthanever2039 because the anime is based on the manga and the anime staff copied the play that happened in the manga but changed the card effect for some reason
@@countdooku7133 And so, in the anime that play is no longer valid. Wich is what we are looking at right now. So bringing up the manga effect of the card is completely invalid.
24:17 - wanted to comment that I was also never aware of this, but I have a fun fact! I had a toy model of Masked Beast Des Guardius as a kid (side note, put your toys away - those spines on its back are SHARP) and the woman on its chest was replaced with some kind of green, heart-like extrusion. So, I guess it was censored in the toy even if the card wasn't censored.
He finally did it