Roborock S7 Max Ultra Compared to Q Revo & S7 MaxV. What is Different?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 พ.ค. 2024
- The Roborock S7 Max is loosely based on the very popular, but older S7 MaxV Ultra model. This new edition to the S7 series is a little weird since it shares as much in common with the Q Revo as it does with the S7 MaxV and sits right between them with an MRSP of $1399.
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Roborock Direct S7 MaxV Ultra roborock.pxf.io/zNyOym
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction:
01:10 Vs. S7 MaxV Ultra Differences
04:03 Vs. Q Revo - Differences
06:01 Vs. Q Revo Mopping Test
06:44 Vs. Q Revo Tile Pickup Test
07:14 Vs Q Revo Carpet Pickup Test
07:38 Vs. Q Revo Obstacle Avoidance
08:00 Vs. Q Revo Lifting Mopping Pads
08:37 Vs. Q Revo Water Consumption Test
10:08 Vs. Q Revo Sound & Power
10:35 Comparing Dock Performance
11:48 Conclusion & Final Thoughts
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Do you have any more details on the improved self cleaning system in S7 Max Ultra vs MaxV Ultra?
Great question that unfortunately did not make it into this video.
It is 1 extra sweaping blade mounted under the moving scrubbing brush roller that sweeps the left side of the dock. It is in a photo in the video. If you look inside your dock all the way to the left you will see a dirty area with a sharp cut off line. That area of dirt is now cut in half thanks to this second sweeper, but not eliminated entirely. Not a huge deal imo. I could be missing some other design reasons though.
Thanks for your videos! Despite the Q revo being very impressive for the price, to be honest you convinced me to get the s7 maxv ultra instead - despite each video essentially showing its disadvantages more than advantages haha.
The reason was simply the video features and the best object avoidance, and I'm glad I chose it!
Better dock cleaning on the Q revo is one thing, but to be honest, the biggest downside and headache and intervention required for robot vacuums is still making sure they don't get stuck.
The maxv avoids so many obstacles the Q revo and even s7 Max ultra and s8 would plow right through (from your videos), it's a gamechanger for me. The only thing I have to watch out for is charging cables being tucked away, otherwise socks clothes shoes etc no problem.
It's an amazing vacuum and over here not much more expensive than the Q revo will likely be when it comes out!
Thanks for your videos, I'm a very happy first time robot vacuum owner :)
@@Tom--Ace Glad you like it! I try not to flat out recommend one vac over another since each person has different needs. Instead I try and focus on what are the performance results, features, and pros and cons and try to leave it up to people like you to figure out their own needs.
Glad I could help. The S7 Maxv is one of my all time favorite vacuums.
@@jamie.andrews Thankyou I really like that about your videos, I had enough information to really compare the pros and cons.
And for me it ended up being q revo as budget and overall best pick, s7 maxv the premium option with features I liked and wanted.
A big factor for me was the mopping comparisons, and the fact the s7 maxv was still comparable to the rotating pads on the Q revo was a decider, because I didn't want to go with an older mopping system if it was going to be inferior.
One thing I would like to see is mopping performance in grout lines of deep grooved kitchen tiles (our kitchen tiles have deep groves in the grout lines, that the s7 maxv has trouble reaching - I wonder how the Q revo would fair here).
I like your tabasco/hot sauce test, I tried a few different things on my floor including dried coffee, Coke, sweet chilli sauce and Tabasco and tabasco hot sauce is definitely tougher to get out, so it's a good test!
I suspect the Q revo's mop pads might get at grout lines better but do far I haven't seen that in any reviews.
@@Tom--Ace I have not yet seen a robot be able to clean grout lines. For this I use a wet dry mop like the Dreame H12 Pro to get in the grout. Trust me hot sause always ends up in my grout and it won't get romoved by a robot so I don't think you are missing anything by not getting the Q Revo.
That is cool that you ran some tests yourself and I am glad you found the hot sauce to be hard one to get clean. I use a heat gun to bake it on the tile floor.
Wow, I am just so impressed by your videos. I've never seen such good comparison videos before. The way you measure everything is awesome. Thanks for making these.
Glad you like them! I appreciate the support!
Excellent review. I have the Q Revo and S7 MVU. The smaller tanks on the S7 are easier to manage when refilling and dumping the dirty water. And the handles on the S7's tanks also give me more confidence I won't spill water everywhere since the handles are mounted to the tank base. The Q Revo's tanks are a bit awkward. I usually need to support the Q Revo's tanks from the bottom. Ultimately it's not a huge deal. I prefer everything else about the Q Revo dock for the reasons you stated in your review!
Good point on the handles and the water tanks. I am glad to hear that you also prefer the Q Revo over the Ultra dock. Thanks for the support!
Your video is super! I really appreciate that you mentioned so many details. I've just gone through a bunch of reviews and finally decided to go with Q Revo since the price is so beautiful ($699 now) and they have very similar functions.
Thanks! Glad I could help! Come back and let me know how you like the Q Revo
i like that you talk about the noise that the stations make. other reviews lack this information.
That information is in the specific reviews for each. For the Q Revo here is that link th-cam.com/video/tMUxyhw3HKo/w-d-xo.html and for the Ultra dock here is the direct link: th-cam.com/video/gr04e0iWCn0/w-d-xo.html
amazing review , thanks for doing it!!!
Dear Jamie, thank you for your excellent and complete comparison! You did a perfect job.
Thanks for your support!
The most useful review I ever found ! Thank you Jamie.
Thanks so much!
I tried the S7V max ultra and it was ok. I am not a fan of the mopping pad and prefer the spinning pads, but they both seem to do a good job.
I am currently using the Q Revo because of the mopping pads, the easy to clean mop sink AND the lower price!!!
I wish the algorithm for mopping was a little better as the mop pads don't get real close to the baseboards like the vibrapad, but once again, the price difference.....
The dock footprint is a little smaller as well and that is somewhat important for me.
Thanks for the review!
This was a great video. I would love to see a head to head comparison between the s7 maxv and s7 max ultra.
Hi Jamie, great comparison as usual, thanks again and keep it up.
My pleasure!
Just bought the Q Revo and I'm absolutely thrilled with it
great video, very nice review and comparison
I love hands-on product reviews like this. Your time and effort is appreciated.
I got something I'd like to know. So in my home there's a few thresholds where the transition from wood to tile is about 1/2" difference in height. I want to know, how do robot vaccums tend to handle that? Are they able to climb that height as they go from one room to another?
The thresholds look ugly but they don't really bother me but if the vaccuum struggles to climb them well then I guess I'd finally have to commit to fixing those eyesores and install those ramp looking strips.
First off thanks so much!
It depends on the robot. Most robot can climb up to about 3/4 of an inch. It also depends on how persistent the robot is with the navigation. Roborock is likely your best bet imo.
Thank you sir. Your review is extremely detailed and helpful
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks so much for adding this review, super detailed and helpful... I'm tepmted to see if I can snag an older MaxV Ultra.
If you are in the US Amazon Prime Day sale is coming up!
Superb review.... I'm going with the Q Revo based on your review and my hard flooring.
Thanks, please check back in and let me know how you like it. Working on a video right now on a little Q Revo hack so stay tuned!
*THANK YOU. Very helpful video, and well done.*
You're welcome!
Great comparison, thank you!
Thanks for watching!
well structured quantitative review!
Great video as always! 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Thanks for watching!
Very helpful to us, thank you. Subbed
Thanks!
Thanks again for another superb comparison. I bought a S7MaxV Ultra two months ago and love it. When I saw the bits and pieces about the Q Revo, I was impressed with its functionality and especially its price. Your comparison filled in all the blanks for me. I might have gone with the Q Revo if it were an option at the time, but, what the hey! It's like having an Apple iphone. Each time I upgrade to the newest version, a new version comes out a week later! This all tells me the Roborock is a leader in the field and is able to listen to customers about what they want.
Thanks for the continued support! The S7 MaxV Ultra is an excellent robot as are the others. Roborock not only listens, they make constant improvements to their products.
It feels like if you have kids or pets, S7 MaxV is the choice, if not then either Q Revo or S8 Pro Ultra. So great choice.
Your absolutely correct. There is no way to even try to keep up with the latest and greatest technology. I also own the S7 Maxv, and for a minute I was a little envious to learn about the new models.. But after using my Roborock for almost a yr now, I can honestly say that a vacuum brings me joy. 😂
I tell myself that I will not buy the latest top of the line model until mine no longer functions. Hopefully it will last several yrs to come, and by then the technology will be so good that we will no longer have to refill and empty the water tanks, and they will be totally self cleaning.
I am pretty sure if I would have purchased a robot vacuum back when they first hit the market, I probably wouldn't be using it once the new wore off. I know so many people who ran out and purchased them when they first came out. Everyone was so impressed with them when they first bought one, but after using for a few months they got bored with using them. After awhile people got sick of having to empty the dustbins, and back then they didn't have robot vacuums that mopped. Most people who purchased one yrs ago have no idea that there are now robot vacuums that sweep and mop and can actually do both things at the same time.
They don't pay attention to how far the technology has come because they figure they already own a robot vacuum that is most likely never used anymore and probably buried in a closet somewhere.
My sister bought a Roomba probably 5 yrs ago. When I told her that I bought a robot vacuum she thought I was crazy for being so happy about mine. That's because in her mind, she figured in a few months time I would feel the same way about it as she does her roomba. She assumed the robot vacuums are still more of novelty thing, like hers is. She told me she has no idea where her roomba is at. She used it a few months and ended feeling like it's just as easy to vacuum and mop her floors the old fashioned way as it was to mess with running the roomba. She really didn't have much interest when I tried to explain to her the difference in my Roborock VS her Roomba from 5 or 6 yrs ago.. My point being, people who own older models, really don't consider that the technology on the robot vacs does advance and improve very similar to owning a newer smart phone. I also have a Aunt who owns one that she also bought when they first came out. When I told her i was thinking about buying a robot vacuum she told me that I could buy hers from her. She is another person who liked it at first because it was something new, but ended up never using after awhile. I tried to explain the features that my S7 maxv ultra have and how much I love it to both my sister and my Aunt.. I could tell that neither was paying much attention to me. It's not a topic of interest to people who already have robot vacuums from back when they first came out. They assume they can't be much different then one they already own and in time, the newness will wear off for anyone who buys one. Lol
Anyway, my point is.. I am VERY HAPPY that I waited a few yrs to purchase my Roborock and that I did my homework on the brands and technology of them. Before I did any homework on which one to buy, I was about to go out and buy a Roomba and figured all robot vacuums are created equal. I planned on buying a Roomba with mopping, but didn't plan on the mopping feature being anything to functional. I just assumed Roomba is the brand to buy, because I always hear people mention the brand Roomba when referring to a robot vacuum. I HAD NEVER EVEN HEARD OF ROBOROCK brand before I decided to do some homework before going out and grabbing whatever Roomba model was on sale. Lol.. Boy am I glad I did decide to do some research before impulse buying. I actually had a Roomba in my shopping cart at the checkout lane once. Thankfully the checkout lanes were forever long and very slow that day. I ended up getting frustrated standing in line so long, that I didn't buy anything that I had in my shopping cart that day. That night actually googled the Roomba model that I almost purchased to read user reviews.. I believe that is what lead to learn about Roborock and several other top of the line brands..if I would have bought that Roomba that I had in my cart and knew nothing about.. I am positive I would be no different then my sister or aunt or anyone else who own robot vacuums but no longer use them. It's no different then the many different vacuums I have spent money on through the years. Everything from name brand full size upright vacs, to canister vacs, to stick vacuums, corded and non corded.. After awhile I wasn't happy with any of them.. I was always on the quest to find a vacuum that I would be happy with..
After a year of using my S7 Maxv Ultra, I can finally say that I have truly found a vacuum that I do not have buyers remorse.. It satisfies my needs more then I anticipated... Yeah now that the new has worn off there are a few things that are a tad bit tedious or kind of obnoxious dealing with.. But they are very very minimal things. When I don't feel maintaining the water tanks, or cleaning the sensors, roller brushes, water filter, I remind myself of the peace of mind I have waking up every morning to my entire house being vacuumed and mopped. I remind myself that there is significantly less dog hair in my home, even though my 4 legged best friend still sheds just as much as he always has.. For me the the monthly maintenance and filling the water tank is so much easier then constantly trying to keep up with my shedding dog and having to deal with a full sized vacuum on a regular schedule. My Roborock gets in places my expensive upright vacuum cannot get to. My expensive upright cannot even vacuum under my kitchen cabinets because the base of it is to high and won't get under the cabinets. I would have to use the broom AFTER vacuuming before I had my Roborock.. Talk about a pain in the butt. Lol
I think it's way smarter for people to wait a few yrs when buying any kind of new technology... Hopefully I will get my money's worth from my S7 Max V. By the time I need to replace in a few yrs the technology will be even better then it is now. By waiting a few yrs the technology will be even better then the new Q model and whatever other new models are out now. Hence is why I am also glad I waited until last yr to purchase my first ever robot vacuum... Now days even the mopping features are very good. If I would have purchased one when they first came out, I am pretty sure the newness would have worn off quickly because the technology was not as advanced as now.. It's always better to wait awhile when it comes to upgrading any kind of thing technology related.. I am the same way when it comes to my smart phone. The newest models always sound appealing.. But they will be even more appealing if we wait a few yrs!
@@twohassles43 The S7 MaxV is lightyears ahead of robot vacuums that were on the market prior to 2015. I won't even bother reviewing a robot vacuum on my channel that does not have smart navigation as it is honestly just not worth it for me or anyone else. Roborock was the brand that came out to challenge iRobot and cut their price in half! I started my channel because of the Roborcok S4!
Thank you for the review! Just bought a Q Revo, hope it works good.
Check back in and let me know what you think.
@@jamie.andrews will do
What a great video!!! Just got ny Revo and i cant wait to use it
Enjoy it!
This is such an excellent review and highly informative! I went to Roborock's website and I was immediately confused. Waaaaaay too many models and confusing naming scheme I almost quit the whole thing. I eventually went with the S7 Max Ultra because it was heavily discounted in my local store.
Glad it was helpful!
I ordered the Q Revo with the early coupon. I’m excited for my first robot vacuum. Thank you for the video.
Great! It should hopefully serve you well. Please report back what you think of it. Would love to hear the feedback.
Very good video!!!It helps me to decide which model I should go
Glad I could help
I have been waiting for this video ! The Q Revo rocks! I just hope, it realeases in the EU soon!
The support could tell me, when and if it releases :-O
I ordered the S7 Max Ultra yesterday and I can't wait for it to arrive.😍
Another great review! Happy with my choice to go with Q Revo- can't wait to get it and try it out myself! I'd love to see the difference between Q Revo and Dreametech L10s. Since there weren't many reviews when I bought I imagined Q Revo as a cross between Roborock and Dreametech, wondering how the compare head to head.
I plan on doing a head to head between these 2. I started back using the L10s yesterday so I could begin my thought train. Stay tuned and thanks so much for the support!
@@jamie.andrews did you already have some comparisons done between the Q Revo and the Dreametech L10S? I am thinking of buying one of these two. The Q Revo is 50-60EUR cheaper... Is the object detection that much worse? (I know the big difference is the Q Revo doesn't have a camera )
@@uwedepoortere174 I will have that video out soon!
Had I only seen this video 3 weeks ago. I avoided buying an S7 because of the expected mess in the station. So I went with a Q7max+ for dry vaccuuming only and added a manual Tineco mopping machine instead. Wonderful combo.
Now I found the Q Revo and this video and instantly knew it might have been the better choice. I love the simplicity of cleaning the station washer tray. Vibrating mops might be slightly more effective, but the rotating systems are easier to maintain.
I really like your combo. Robots can't reach everywhere and can't deep clean and having the Tineco will cover those problem areas.
Great content and very good presentations. I do have a request. Most reviewers forget to review important aspects of the machines, which is the size. The size as far as diameter and height governs where the machines can go. Dining sets allow only a few machines to go under-the-table in between the chairs legs. I wish for someone to do that comparison. Furthermore, I have tilled kitchen with about half an inch grout, which makes mopping a challenge for flat mops. I would like to see a comparison with spinners.
Thanks for the feedback and suggestions. None of the mops are going to clean grout very well at all. I suggest a vacuum mop combo like the Dreame H12 Pro which has a roller that can drop down in the grout to clean stains.
Hey Jamie,
I just discovered your channel and I love it. Thanks for the great videos!
I live in germany and i just got my max ultra. I love that thing so much! The avoidance is totally fine in my case. Now that I see the Q revo i actually dont quite understand roborocks choice. The Q revo just seems that its the most reasonable choise even if they had the same price tag. It does everything the same or better and has a better docking station. Doesnt make sense when the Q series is meant to be the more budget choice?!
Why do you think a company produces a budget option which beats the top series?
Thanks again, didnt wait a second and subscribed to you :).
Thanks so much for the support! I talked about this in the end of my Q Revo review video and I do think the Q Revo might be just a little too good for the price when compared to the S series.
I just bought the q revo today because of your review 🙃 thank you for the video and for only 710 dollars
Thank you! I just bought the Q Revo on sale on Amazon for $679, the wife wasn't willing to spend more than $800 on a robot vacuum and naturally I wanted the best and coolest but alas we compromised and I jumped on the Q Revo, I can't wait to set it loose!
Let me know how you like it!
Hahaha we men always want the coolest machine.
Life is too short not to get what you want. As long as you are paying for it you don't gotta ask permission from anyone lol
The Q Revo isn’t available in Europe, so we ordered the S7 Max with the early coupon, which came to 960€. So far we are very satisfied with it. The avoidance is very good and it doesn’t bang into walls or furniture. We don’t have pets or kids so it’s perfect if you don’t have to worry about clutter. Great video
What coupon is that?
Glad to hear! They are both excellent cleaning robots!
The Q Revo was launched in Europe at July 14th.
@@nKrandom Ty for letting me know.
Great review, Jamie, love your work, thank you for that!
One question on your water cosumption test: you ran both on 15m2, what were the settings? Because 3 mop washes are quite a lot, so once every 5m2? Or did you run 3 times, so in total the robots did 45m2?
Thanks for the support! 1 mop wash at the beginning of the job, one wash in the middle of the job at the 10 minute mark, and one at the end of the job to wash the mop pads.
Thanks for the question!
Jamie thanks again for taking the time to create this head-to-head video. I appreciate your time and input which has been very helpful since the Q Revo is my first robot vacuum.
I would also like to add that the Q Revo will alert you when the water needs to be dumped out of the wastewater container or if water needs to be added to the clean water container. This is not a feature that comes with either the S7 or S8.
Thanks DJ! I appreciate your comments and feedback. The S7 Max(V) Ultra and the S8 Pro Ultra docks will alert on water levels as well.
@@jamie.andrews Really, I thought I had read that this was only a feature on the Q Revo. I stand corrected. Thanks
@@DJ-HGLegacy I can confirm, had the message that my dock had no fresh water left last week on my S7 MaxV
Thanks for this! I’m glad I got the S7MU over the Revo.
Thank you for this video
My pleasure
Thanks for your reviews! It’s very informative. But looking forward to see the direct comparison of S7 Max Ultra and S7 MaxV Ultra. Camera is a big downgrade for me but incredible reviews of MaxV make me to think about it.
Noted
Didn't even consider the detergent usage would differ in this way, its quite expensive, great content again
Thank you! Detergent is not cheap.
This is the video I needed. Hopefully Q Revo will come to the Spanish market soon 🤞
Any news about a Q Revo release in Europe? So far we only got the 7 Max Ultra.
Thanks for the great comparison review, as always.
Not yet.
Thank you for this excellent comprehensive review! In my country they both have the same price, so it’s hard for me to choose one over the other. Any advice? 🤞
They are pretty similar in functionality. My latest video might just answer your question :) th-cam.com/video/2ZfkvX0mSYQ/w-d-xo.html
Jamie, thank you so much for the detailed review. We have a large two storey house with patchy wifi in some areas. Whilst the Q Revo is not yet available in Australia it definitely piques our interest with the lower price point and seemingly similar features to the flagships. We only have floor boards and tiles, and one crawling baby atm. Our concern is whether or not any robovac regardless of price point would struggle with the black out areas in terms of coverage? We’ve tried putting wifi dongles around but even then we find it can be patchy..
I have been where you are with spotty wifi and setting up a mesh network is what fixed it for me. I use Deco. The robot would still work with spotty coverage on its own, but if it has a weak signal while vacuuming you would not be able to see it in the app.
Great review and sharing.
There is no live image camera in Max Ultra, right?
I can’t find the function on app.
There is no camera on the S7 Max Ultra.
best review video I've ever seen. Tks. Could you please check the ability to clean the base wall of the Q Revo in the next video?
Thanks! What do you mean by base wall?
@@jamie.andrews I mean the corner between the wall and the floor
@@fujijiimmy8783 Oh OK. I will actually do this exact thing when the Q Revo Maxv comes out since it hasa swing out mop.
Just subscribed i enjoyed the comparisons, I missed the deals so I guess i wait for the next deal day or release of some godly value robot vacuum😂
Thanks for the sub!
Great video, it sounds like Roborock really knocked it out of the park with the Q Revo, I have the S7 Max V with just the basic charging dock and it's a great robot, I'm really considering adding the Q Revo to my collection, I think Ecovacs will shake things up with the T20 as well. I still wonder what Irobot is going to do, these other companies have gotten so far ahead of them, I've read some comments from those who think Irobot might be done, they certainly will be if they don't come out with something revolutionary.
Thanks! The Q Revo is a great robot. Testing the T20 now. Ecovacs app leaves a lot to be desired imo. iRobot has the power of Amazon behind it, but that may not be enough.
Thank you for such a detailed comparison. I will be choosing the S7 Max Ultra as it better suits my needs.
My pleasure!
Absolute perfect video. You covered all the bases. I own the ultra max v system and like to see how it compares to the newer models.
I have one question. I have noticed on my Roborock app that there are some new features that must have been pushed through on a firmware update. There is now option to select "standard route" or "fast route" when cleaning. I am not sure which to select. It looks like fast route cleans in a different direction then standard route, and I assume it's faster. But I kind of like the idea of the robot cleaning in a different direction at times. The app does state that fast route may miss some areas, but it also says it adjusts it's route for more efficient cleaning. I like the idea of more efficient cleaning. But I don't like the idea of missing certain areas... It seems to me the 2 options of fast route vs standard route kind of contradicts itself according to how the app describes each route. Would love to hear someone else's opinion between the two options.
I have had my s7 maxv ultra for about a yr now and I would hate to be without it. Your videos make me have more peace of mind that it does a decent job. I have light colored vinyl plank flooring. It's not always easy to tell if the robot does a great job. Simply because the sunlight has to shine on my floors just right for me to notice how clean or dirty they are.. I have had a few concerns lately that the dust bin isn't always completely emptied.. Sometimes I have to remove the dustbin and pull leftover debris from the hole that sucks the dirt into the base. That definitely concerns me a little bit.
Like you said in your video, the robots definitely are not self cleaning. There is plenty of regular cleaning maintenance to maintain the system.
Thanks again for a great video. New sub here.
Thanks for the sub and support!
The fast route option only cleans the center of the room skipping the area around the walls. If you recall the robot goes into a room and first cleans the perimeter and then cleans the center of the room last. Fast Route skips the perimeter which saves time. It is a useful option when you need the house cleaned quickly.
If you are having to clean out the dustbin manually something is not right. Make sure the dust bag is not too full and the lid is fully sealed and not pinching the bag. If that does not fix it try cleaning just a few rooms at a time to allow the dustbin not to get too full.
Good work, sir
Many thanks!
Thanks for such nice review. Would you compare Revo with other brands new model in the same price range, like Eufy x9 pro?
The Dreame L10s Ultra or L10 Ultra come to mind. I have also tested the L10s Ultra here on my channel. The X9 Pro does not have an auto empty dock and I have not tested it.
Excellent comparison! Can you comment on how frequently you need to clean the dock base in Q Revo? I have a S7 MaxV Ultra and I rarely find myself cleaning the filter and brush thingy in the dock. I wonder if Q Revo’s base would require more frequent cleaning schedule?
It really depends on how dirty the floor is, how many pets etc. Those things can clog either filter fast. I would guess you would need to clean the Q Revo tray more often since the filter has less surface area and could clog more easily. It is a good thing it is super easy to do. I have not even needed to scrub it yet, only rinsed it off with the kitchen sink hose sprayer.
I suspect most people don't think to clean the filter on the Ultra dock since it is out of sight and described as self cleaning. Roborock recommends on average you should clean it every 2 weeks. They also started putting a sticker on the dock reminding you of this.
Hi there, really love your review. Can you do reviews on ultra premium models such as X2 OMNI and Dreame L20? Thanks!
Thanks. The X2 will be out next month. I have already reviewed the L20. th-cam.com/video/uSax4yq0kC0/w-d-xo.html
That was an awesome video, as someone who has spent a bit of time recently researching robo vacs, it was great to verify my findings with yours. The only other thing I would add is the simplicity of the Dock mop cleaning system in the Revo. As there are no moving parts on the base there is less that could go wrong after the warranty runs out. The only thing personally for me is that obstacle avoidance seems very sub-par on these units compared to the S8 and S7 maxv, they may improve this, but also they may not.
I think the next big thing will be warm water mapping becoming the norm.
One thing I have noticed that no one seems to cover is calcium build-up over time in these units, does it happen ?
The Revo dock is way more simple in design. I have low calcium in my water so it is not a problem for me. Different manufactures may have suggestions on what to use. Another subscriber reached out to Roborock and got an answer from them on what to use in the robot, but they did not have an official answer for the dock.
Been waiting for this review before pulling the trigger, thank you Jamie! Based on the review it would seem the q revo has a smaller internal tank and uses more water. Do you think it can adequately mop a second floor or will it run out of water quickly before needing to return to base? In otherwords, how many square feet do you think the q revo can mop before needing a refill? Perhaps because I have multiple floors the s7max may be the better option.
Please know these were my simple tests done in my home and they could change with a firmware update as that can be controlled in that way.
Here is what I do know for certain.
Roborock claims the Q Revo can handle up to a Max of 400sqm and the S7 Max can only handle 300sqm. I do know the Q Revo mop pads tend to hold more water as well so maybe this is why?
I can also tell you I ran a test with the Q Revo where I put the water output to high and ran it for 25 minutes and it sounded like it had very little water on it with me shaking and listening It does return to the dock after a max setting of 25 minutes for a mop washing. Unfortunately this is a hard thing for me to test for with a small home and limited time. I wish I could answer you more precisely.
@@jamie.andrews that makes great sense thank you for taking the time to help us out. Does the s7max also have a max setting of 25 minutes to return to doc? Or is it not limited in that way?
@@hoopbull The S7 Max can go all the way from 10 minutes to 50 minutes. Likely due to the larger onboard water tank.
Struggling hard between these three robots. Ease of maintenance and performance are my #1 concerns. My home is 3,000 SQFT of floor and a mix of tile and hardwood for 98% of it. Some scattered rugs and floor mats are in there as well. My only concern are the 1/2 inch saddles we have anywhere it transitions from tile to hardwood. We also have four dogs that are big shedders (well the two Corgis are big shedders.) I was 100% sold on the MAXV until the new 7 and Q Revo came out and now I'm uncertain again. I was going to wait until Prime Day to buy but really can't make up my mind.
I suspect the Ultra dock might handle lots of hair better since it pulls the contents of the internal dustbin through the roller brush opening which is larger than the small opening of the Q Revo.
I feel like there isn't a dog around who sheds more then my dog.
The robovac S7 MaxV Ultra has actually caused me to relax better in my own home. It has given me way more peace of mind! I feel more relaxed in my own home, because I know my floors are getting swept and mopped daily. The best part is I have it scheduled to sweep and mop so that when I start my day, I wake up to clean floors.
Don't get me wrong, my dog definitely doesn't shed any less. Even though I wake up to clean floors, the dog shakes his fur everywhere the min he gets out of bed. I swear he knows the shedding drives me nuts and he shakes his coat just so he can remind that he is a dog, and that dogs shed.. Lol..
No matter what though, I feel way more comfortable that the amount of dog hair that flys from my dog everytime he shakes his coat does not accumulate like it did before I owned my S7 MAXV ULTRA.
There is no possible way for any dog owner to get past the fact that dogs shed. But my days of searching for a solution to keep the dog hair and dog drools to a min have ended. I do not have time or energy to spend everyday sweeping and mopping my entire house. At least now it gets swept and mopped daily, and I only deal with sweeping and mopping the old fashioned way on the weekend. If I don't feel like lugging around my vacuum and mop on the weekend, I just skip doing it. Without the nagging feeling in my mind that so much dog hair is accumulating around me...
Even though dog hair was my biggest battle before buying the robot, it's also nice to know that dust is not accumulating on my luxery vinyl flooring and carpet. You will be surprised at how much dust accumulates on a daily basis, once u own a robot vacuum. Having the robot cleaning on a daily basis, I notice that the dust bin doesn't get nearly as full as it used to. Because now I am able to keep all hair and dust to a minimum... Even though the robot does require some preventive maintenance about every 6 weeks. I would much rather keep up with the preventive maintenance then constantly worry about vacuuming and mopping. I have bought plenty of vacuums in the past, and still never felt like I was ahead of the dog hair battle. I honestly feel like the Roborock gets to areas that my upright vacuum could never get to. It wouldn't surprise me if there is less dog hair using the Roborock then using my top of the line vacuum.
Sorry this is so long. I sound like I am doing a commercial for Roborock. Lol.. Honestly it's one of the best of purchases I have ever made. I only wish I would have had it along time ago. It's one of those purchases that has made me realize, that it's something I won't ever want to be without... I kind of hate knowing newer models are on the market now. Lol. I would love to be able to buy the latest models everytime one comes out.. But a person can't try to keep up with new technology each time a new model comes out...just like we can't completely keep up with dog hair every time a new piece of hair falls from my dog.. Haha.. I will continue to remind myself that my S7 Maxv does a perfectly fine job keeping the dog hair to a minimum, and I won't splurge on a newer model until my Roborock absolutely needs to be replaced. Hopefully it will last A LONG TIME. Maybe by the time I need a new one the technology will be so perfect that it will be able to vacuum and mop my dog.. 😂
Hopefully you have made a decision on which Roborock to buy. If so I hope it brings u better peace of mind like mine has for me. I think u said u would buy it on Amazon prime day, which has already came and went. I bought mine from Roborock during Black Friday last Xmas. It was the lowest price that I have ever seen them be. If you haven't bought one yet, Black Friday sales will be your best savings.. Enough about Roborock.. I have now officially made my longest comment ever.. Roborock should send me a free vacuum after for this much praise. Have a great day.
@@twohassles43 You indeed made a great choice! I am picky about my floors and walk barefoot around the house and can't stand there to be grit on the floor!
@@twohassles43hello...thank you for your input on these with dogs. We have two dogs and I am really struggling with which robot to choose. One of our dogs has accidents during the night on occasion and I am concerned with poop detection for that reason. Do you have any input on that aspect of these vacuums? I am waiting for Black Friday pricing to buy but want to make the right choice. I currently have a Roomba J7+ combo which I love but it's too hands on without the self cleaning mop and limited water storage.
Thank you for any help you can offer!
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What type of detergent did you use there? I get conflicting answers when I search cleaning solutions for Roborock. Some say do not use cleaning solutions, others say use what the company sell, and another (a tech guy that repairs robot vacuums for one of these official companies) says not to use them at all. he had a video showing how it can clog the pipes, dry up in there, and effect the performance of the machine.
Now I see your video, and you've done the testing. Can standard detergents work for the Q Revo?
Thanks in advance.
I use the manufacturer's suggested products at the dilution ration they suggest. The solutions have never been a problem for me. Here is what I use in my Roborock mops. amzn.to/3Ny14sP
@@jamie.andrews thanks so much!
Excellent review, with Black Friday I am currently debating on a refurbished s7 ultra or a revo for the same price. Will be down stairs with hardwood and low pile area rugs. If they are similar pricing is the refurbished s7 ultra the better option?
I would go new over refurbished.
Great reviews! Very detailed, however one thing I can't seem to find a lot of information on is how often these bots need to return to the dock during a cleaning cycle and how they handle multi-story homes. For instance, we have a townhome with hardwood throughout and I'm trying to understand how often I'd need to carry it up and down stairs for it to refill the tank and clean the mops. I see the Q Revo has a much smaller on board water tank (80 ml) than the S7 Max Ultra (200 ml). Does that mean the S7 can mop more sqft than the Revo before refilling? How many sqft can these bots go over before needing to wash the pads?
25 minutes of mopping for the Q Revo and the S7 Max is a safe bet. Maybe similar for the S7 Max since it only has one water outlet and users report the outsides of the pad starts to dry up. I too have seen this on my small home.
Thank you for the great review, I have been wondering about the s7 max ultra lately. I have two questions: 1) does the integrated water tank leak when you turn the robot upside down to clean its bottom? 2) why they changed the side brush on s7 max ultra? is the new one better?
Thanks for the great questions! 1. Not that I have noticed. The removable one does not leak either on the MaxV. 2. I heard it was because the old style would tangle easily on rugs. I never had that issue, but I can tell you the old style loved to get hair wrapped around it and this new style greatly improves with that.
Thank you for the great videos! Is the S7 MaxV robot compatible with the S7 Max dock? - If so, do you know if the S7 Max dock is sold separately like the S7 MaxV docks?
Thanks! The docks are not cross compatible and Roborock no longer sells the docks separately.
Amazing review! How do they compare regarding pet fur (I have a golden retriever who sheds a TON of long fur)?
I have heard the S series handles hair a bit better.
Excellent comparison. Good boy!!If I may, next time when you do a washing test it would be interesting to rub a piece of scottex on the floor to point out how much comes out compared to the washing performed... Another question but I understood the Q Revo had a specific option for washing the edges which made the part of the mops shake, I see the perimeter in order to guarantee coverage better, but is this thing really there? Thanks in advance for any response.
That option is not available yet in the US based Q Revo
@@nogridbag Why is it a function that will be implemented with future updates?... On the P10 (the Chinese version seems to have this option from a video seen on the net)
Thanks! That is a really good idea.
My guess is there could be a US patent keeping Roborock from including that "wiggle your butt" feature.
I would love to see you compare the Q Revo to the Deebot T20. Both very similar robots.
Thanks for these videos! Question…how do these robots handle when their “approach” to a carpet isn’t perpendicular? Does it know to move along the edge whilst mopping? Second, are the robots able to recognize very thin area rugs and lift their mops? I have one that’s pretty thin and I’m concerned they will mop the rug. Thanks!
They have an optical sensor on the front underbelly that causes the robot to reverse if you have it set to avoid carpets while mopping. If you have it set to lift the mopping pads it will lift them and cross the carpet or rugs. The optical sensor works well on these.
I think you make the best robot vacuum cleaner videos on TH-cam.
Thanks! I appreciate that!
Great video, I can’t decide between the two and thought maybe you could help. My house is about 50-50 hard floor and carpet and we have two very hairy golden retrievers. Would one be better than the other in this situation? Thanks!
I would lean towards the S7 Max as I have heard some recent reports of the auto empty system on the Q Revo getting clogged when used in homes with lots of pet hair. The S7 Max pulls it back through the roller brush opening which is larger and this design has been out longer with a good track record.
Can the newer s7 max and Q revo water tanks be emptied manually without the dock?
Thanks for the comparison.
I was in doubt between S7 Max Ultra and MaxV Ultra. I find the object avoidance important so that's why I would choose for the MaxV on that perspective. The Max Ultra has the automatic dry function and that was also a spec I found important. Could it be possible to get the S7 MaxV but with the base that has the automatic dry function from the new Max Ultra? (So combine the old robot with the new base) What do you think about the automatic dry function, is it that a must have? Or do you just swap cleaning pads after every mopping task?
You can add a dock dryer to the older S7 Maxv Ultra dock. I have a video link in the description for that video. Unfortunately the docks are not sold separately.
Hey Jamie, I'm fro, the UK and was looking to get the Q revo which has not arrived yet. Would it be possible to get a Europe version and use it like that or do you know when it will arrive to the UK? Thanks Buddy
I don't have any information on a European release date unfortunately.
I do believe that if you were to run the mopping test 3 times between the S7 Max Plus and the Q Revo, Q Revo would come out on top 1 or 2 of the times. There will always be slight difference on the hot sauce amount even when you try your best to make them as evenl as possible. Just my opinion.
Absolutely correct. They are close enough to not really make enough of a difference in their mopping or vacuum tests. This is not a lab by any means even though I try and keep things as consistent as I can on this channel. With that said the amount of work that goes into the mopping test means I usually only run 1 per robot unless i have a good reason to do more than one. Cheers!
Nice video, well done! Would be nice if you verify the mopping ability with blotting paper on the floor
You are the second person to suggest this and I think it is a good idea. Thinking about using blue paper towels which should make it easier to see. Thanks for the suggestion!
You mentioned q revo has semi free floating brush housing vs s7 full freely floating brush . What does it mean ? I had bought q revo and now after a month it looks like the housing is scratching the wooden floor .. I am thinking to return it to buy s7 max ultra do you think the free floating housing may be better to avoid scratches ?
Interesting as I normally hear the free floating brush on the S series is the one to scratch floors. On the Q Revo the brush and little felt pads are the only thing that comes in contact with the floors. With the S series there are little plastic numbs that come in contact with the floor and people say those scratch their floor. Personally I don't think either of the could scratch a floor with the roller cover and most certainly not the Q Revo as it does not come on contact with the floor and what is really happening is something gets stuck in the brush roller housing and that scraped across the floor or something gets stuck in the mop and that causes it. I have yet to have a robot scratch my floors. I'd say if you run the robot and see scratches as it runs return it for sure, but if we are talking about isolated incidents it is likely what I described.
Thanks for the video. Q Revo seems to be quite good for the price. Local shop here in Europe is selling S7 Max Ultra for 999€ and S8 Pro Ultra for 1099€. Do you think the S8 Pro Ultra is better deal for that price? Price difference is less than I thought it would be between s7/s8. Unfortunately they are not selling Q Revo here atleast for now. Would probably go for that one if they had it.
The S8 Pro has a better object avoidance system and dual rollers. If those matter to you go for the S8 Pro.
I had the MAX V ultra for Over a year now and I loved it, but after a year I noticed the mop water was not going down, so something was not right. The self cleaning system was ok, and I looked at the removable mop water on the vacuum unit and couldn't find anything wrong there as it turns out there was an issue with the small tube that goes from reservoir through the vacuum to the single distribution point on the S7 Max V. I took apart the vacuum to try and clear it used a suction cup to push air through, at some point I think there is a leak somewhere in the vacuum water tube itself in the main unit of the S7 so it renders the Max V's mop useless. After spending $1200 I didn't want to get another Dock and Robot and my thought was to just purchase a new MAX V unit without the dock however they do not sell them separately on the website. $500 to $800 is the Price for just the vacuum or E bay even for a refurbished unit.
So in researching I come across this and see that I can get this new set up Q Revo for around $800 and possibly cheaper during the Prime day Deals and Black Friday I think my mind is set to wait for the price drop and get the Q Revo.
I will still use the S7 Max Ultra for the vacuum as it does a great job but I want to have a twice a week mopping done by a robot so the Q Revo should fit in nicely and I can use the S7 for the heavy dirt pick up and focus the Revo on the mopping and hopefully I will get what I need done without paying another $1200. I did end up getting a promotion where I got the $300 Cordless Vac with the S7 Max V ultra for an early adopter so I think I got my use out of it but was disappointed with the ability not to be able to access the tube to replace. I hope the water delivery last longer for the Revo but the Dock and capabilities match what I am needing and seem less maintenance intensive and I don't see the need to get a new S7 for just the mopping feature when I can pay the same price and get a new set up that may be a good back up should anything go wrong with my S7 which it has on the mop side.
My upstairs is mostly carpet so I have a feeling I'll be using the S7 for my upstairs and the Q Revo for the downstairs more tile and low pile carpet sounds like the solution. If anyone is on the fence between the 2, Although there are some additional features on the S7 Max V, I think if i had the choice at the time I would of opted for the Q Renvo the Price really is the deciding factor considering you get 90% of the same features. Both are good but I think there were some design misses with the S7 when it comes to longevity. And just so you are aware I've only used the Roborock Mop Cleaner int he clean water tank and used reverse osmosis water in the clean water tank as well so this still had some issues with Mop 2 times a week and regular maintenance as needed for the unit.
I think you will be happy with the Q Revo. Sorry to hear that about your S7 Maxv.
hi Jamie next week I will get the deebot t20 Omni, will you try it?
I am about to start testing that one next!
Performs the 3d obstacle avoidance on the S8 Pro Ultra beter in real life then the S7 Plus / Q Revo? Based on your tests it looks like they perform almost identical?
The S8 Pro handled the sock and the shoe much better than the Q Revo and S7 Max.
I have the first gen Xiaomi branded roborock. It's very old but still works like a charm. It only has sonar sensors in front so obstacle avoidance is quite basic in today's terms. When s7 maxV came out i thought that this would be the reason to upgrade. But with the s8 pro being so expensive i am going for revo and I just wonder how much am I losing out by not going for the s8 pro model. Is the 3D reactive tech that much better to make a meaningful difference to justify the price difference?
Wow that is old tech for sure, but glad to hear it still works like a charm. As for your question the obstacle avoidance on the Q Revo is extremally basic and the difference is fairly large in my testing compared to the S7 MaxV and the S8 series so if this feature is very important to you take a look at the S7 MaxV which is the best or the S8 Pro Ultra which is almost as good.
Thanks for the review! Does 80ml water tank in Q Revo make a big deal? Didn't see ppl talk about it and I am worried that smaller water tank might compromise the mopping result.
The tank can auto refill so it's not a big issue
It gets refilled when it goes back to the dock so I do not think it is a big deal. I never ran the tank dry and I tried.
So would you say the q revo at $700 is a better purchase over the s7 maxv ultra for $1060?
I'm curious how much better the completely floating brush housing is vs the q revos semi floating brush. Also in your video the q revo brush housing looks so much smaller than the s7 maxv.
I think the s7 max is kind of a weird product. It seems it's either save money and get the q revo or go all out and get the s7 maxv ultra / s8
To answer your first question yes unless water usage is a big deal for you. I think the full floating roller brush is a bit better in some situations, but not by much.
Excellent video. Still wonderring wich one to choose between S7 MaxV and Q Revo...they seems so close in performance results (except obstacles avoidance) what will help me maybe is to know how close both can get to the baseboards ? Anyone knows ?
S7 Maxv gets closer to baseboards due to the mop design.
Hello jamie
How much electric it uses during then it dry the mop..?? There i lives we have a bill with kwh per hour
I cover this in the video around the 10:20 mark.
Hello Jamie. Does that roborock Q revo main brush cover fit the s7 maxv? Thanks!
No totally different.
Great support, @jamie.andrews!
I can't get too much information about the Roborock S7 Pro Ultra. Did you test it?
I would say I am 50%-50% for S7 Pro Ultra and the newest release S7 Max Ultra.
Please share with us your thoughts!
P.s. the Q revo is not available in Europe, so we have to exclude this option.
Unfortunately the S7 Pro Ultra is not available in the US so I can't really comment on the performance. I think the Q Revo will come to Europe at some point.
One week into ownership, the Q Revo is truly amazing. Are there more expensive models that might be a little better? Probably, but the Q Revo can hold it's own at a fraction of the price. We bought direct from Roborock for 680-10% military discount, total cost $612. Much to our surprise it successfully avoided a folded blanket we forgot to pick up, so while it's obstacle avoidance might not match models costing twice the price, it's fine if you pick up cords and such. On the plus side, it does not touch, bump, or markup walls or furniture. We even have Christmas decorations out that it successfully avoids. None of our previous Roombas or Deebots could do that. Q Revo for the win for us.
Roborock s7 max ultra was ordered after seeing this video. I already have the normal s7, and heard about the new s8 and I loved it but it was too expensive. AnywayI have questions and I hope you have the answers. Regarding the robot which spare partswill fit, the S7 or S7 maxV ultra?
Regarding the dock can I use the s7 maxV ultra spare parts?
And thank you for all your efforts
The robots don't really share the same consumables except maybe the filter. While you could use the old style brushes on the S7 Max, I would buy the ones for the S7 Max because they are a bit better imo. The Ultra docks share the roller brush that scrubs the mopping pad and the share the same bag as well.
Usually I only want to vacuum. Is the mop lifted in those two when i vacuum only?
Yes
Do you have to move the dock if you have 2 floors and map them separately? Otherwise how does the mop cleans itself? If you move the dock upstairs, will the robot find it?
Thanks
You don't move the dock. You select multiple floors in the app and move the robot to that floor to map and clean it. You would need to bring it back down and run a mop cleaning and auto empty manually after.
Jamie, can you check if the dock filter from the S7 Max (nonV) and S8 Pro is compatible with the dock filter of the S7 MaxV Ultra? Thanks
The are all 3 different designs. I will have a video out soon about the comparison of all of Roborock's dock.
For the mop cleaning system at the station. Which one is better between Dreame L10s Ultra & Q Revo?
I will have that video on my channel very soon. Stay tuned!
Aside from the better object avoidance on the maxV, were there any discernible performance differences between the S7 maxV and the s7 Max Ultra?
Not really enough to justify, but the Max has a more powerful vacuum motor.
Amazon reviews say these don't sense when bin is full. It empties dustbin only after cleaning so some folks make a complex set of schedules with each room as its own schedule so the bin will empty after completing each schedule (i.e. after each room), otherwise the robot bin fills up too fast. Your thoughts?
That is correct. iRobot owns a patent for having a dustbin detect when it is full so other manufacturers won't have it. I'll be glad when the patent expires.
I'm wondering if this S7 Max or MaxV (frowns at camera) are top contenders above the most recent Q Revo robot with swinging arm?
The swinging arm and tech on the recent S8 Max did not prove it is worth the upgrade unless software fixes those issues.
I'm still testing, but for most people the Qrevo series is all they really need.
Would the USA based Q Revo work with the right adaptor and a stepdown voltage regulator in Europe?
Not certain, but I think there are plans to launch this in Europe.
So, S7 Max Ultra or Q Revo? Lol such a hard decision, great video!
Thanks! I can see why it is a hard decision. Depends on budget and which style mop and dock do you prefer.
Hi! I have Hard flor and two médium siempre carpets in my living room, i hace two pomeranians thst shed a los of hair , i was considering the S7 MU but the price of the q revo is what is making me doubt ... what do you recomend?
Btw great reviews by far the best thst i have seen, glad i fundamentalmente your channel
There have been a few people complaining about large amounts of hair and Q Revo having trouble. I do not think this is the majority of people and I have also heard the same from the Ultra docks, but it might be a better designed system for large amounts of hair IMO. My Q Revo has never failed to empty the internal dustbin though. 1 tip is to clean the floors with an upright vacuum prior to starting to clean with the robot. Then you may want to clean a few rooms at a time instead of the entire house which will keep the dustbin from overfilling.
Thanks so much!