If you really want one, go to a dealership in your area and ask to be called when one arrives. I was called Friday 8/6/21 night then was at the dealership when they opened at 9am (as I’m sure they called tons of other people) on Saturday. Left a few hrs later with a fully loaded XSE (even has the roof racks and running boards). Very happy with this vehicle… not to mention the $$$ I’ll save not having to gas up as often in California.
We have two. First be paid $667 under MSRP Aug 2020 Second July 2021 paid $350 over MSRP. There out there and you don’t need to pay thousands over MSRP.
@@rncondie In California, dealers are trying to add this BS up charge called “Market Adjustment” of like $3500-5000. Just talk them down. They’ll erase it. I went in with $20K cash as my down payment. Told them I wanted it under their MSRP or I’m walking. Two Stacks of High Society within arms reach? They sold me the Prime XSE $500 under their MSRP and removed the Market Adjustment crap completely.
So if you can’t plug in , can you leave the car running on hybrid traction battery and have access to heat / ac - how long will it run if you tell it to not turn car off after 1 hr
I would like to know if the RAV4 Prime, remote connect app, is functioning properly and allowing you to control "Charge Management" and "climate Settings" remotely from your phone!! (because they took this feature away from the Prius Prime 2020).
The RAV4 Prime seems to have some type of program to determine how much range you have based on your driving style. When I drive on the freeway or drive stepping on the brakes and gas all the time, I get 41 mile range on a full charge. When I drive 25 mph and gently stop and accelerate (not super slow to be annoying), I get 45 mile range.
All Toyota hybrid systems learn your style based on fuel economy from past tanks and other factors. You get more out of your gas the more consistent you drive
45 miles will cover most of my daily trips. Since I'll rarely be using gasoline I would suggest putting STA-BIL gasoline additive into the tank to keep it from going bad.
What happens if there is a power failure whilst charging. Does it auto continue or charge slower or does it require unplug and plug in again...handshake?
One possible use for "My Room Mode" is having the air-conditioning on when you leave the family pet in the car as you shop or eat at a place with a charge point.
@@TerryFT86 - This won't work! The "My Room" Mode only works when the car's systems are powered up, and that can only happen if the key fob is in the vehicle. You would never leave the key fob in an unattended vehicle while you are in a store or a restaurant - anyone could just walk up, unplug the charge cable, and drive away with your car. So forget about leaving the a/c on for your dog while you are away from the vehicle.
@@laura-ann.0726 actually you can. turn vehicle on. lock doors. manually unlock drivers door. remove the hard key from the FOB. leave fob inside vehicle (out of view) and exit vehicle. close door and lock using the actual key. there you go!
Thanks for the video, Jeff. Perhaps you can answer a question that has been bugging me. I have sleep apnea and require a CPAP machine which I run off of the 12V battery. My question revolves around how the 12V battery gets its charge. What happens if I plug in, enter room mode and the EV Battery gets to a full charge. Will the 12V battery eventually run down and shut off my CPAP? In a similar vein, what if I do not have electricity available, so I use Ready Mode instead, but I start the night with a full EV battery so that the engine does not have to cycle for long enough that the 12v battery gets drained? The answers I get to these questions always seem to miss the target. I am beginning to suspect that the only way I can camp in my Rav4 Prime is to use the Ready mode exclusively, and only then if the EV battery is low on charge.
Will the Rav4 prime kick the engine on to recharge the battery if you're using to much power running the AC system while plugged into the charging outlet?
I get an average of 350 miles on a full tank of gas. It says like 450 HV (hybrid vehicle) miles left once i fill-up with a full tank, but when i'm running low on gas and fill-up and check the miles, it always seems to be lower like 350 used. Not sure why.
Hi Jeff, thanks for your videos. Very informative and I get your sense of humor. :) Quick question, how do you open the trunk liftgate in the Room mode when you're in the trunk besides using the button all the way up by the steering column? Does the key FOB work? Or you have to get out using the rear psgr doors?
@@akis.4493 thanks. I put a deposit down for a RAV4 prime XSE. Waited for it to come in. Then the stealership sold it out from under me to someone else… Toyota and the State of Texas did nothing. I’m not hurting terribly for a vehicle so I’m going to wait for this craziness to end, if it ever does.
I wanted to buy. But after I hear that no quick charger option (about 20min etc) in the electric charger station, I give up to buy Rav4 Plug in Hybrid. No body dont talk about that. But I think absent to quick charge option is biggest problem. Most of the people don't want to wait 2.5 hour in overseas countries and 5 hours in Japan. It is not best. Mitsubishi eclipse cross Phev has quick charger option and 10000 dolar cheaper than rav4 phev.
I just picked up a Red/Blk 2021 Prime XSE AWD. As you didn’t provide how many miles you drive per month and other driving factors (leadfoot speeder or 24/7 easy stop and go/flat or incline roads/city vs hwy usage) this one is hard to answer. Good thing is that you can call your electric company and tell them you are charging an EV and they can change your plan so that you pay less kilowatts per hour.
@@jiggawuhhjiggawho Oh wow, that is a lot of factors. I drive a lot! I drive for uber. Mostly moderate speeds soft stops, mostly flat. lol But yeah, too many variables for an easy answer.
You are going to need a fat gauge cord. At least 12 gauge for a 15 amp 120v circuit. But please talk to an electrician and avoid using extension cords if at all possible. Electric cars use a lot of electricity for a long time. This can lead to heat buildup and fire!
How do you get the 6.6 Kwh on-board charger? I don't see options for that. Or does that simply come with the Fully loaded Premium options on the XSE? (this one in the video obviously did not and it came with a 3.3 Kwh on-board charger).
As you continue the helpful information research on the Rav 4 Prime can you operate this Rav 4 prime without passenger and back seats, to set up a camping type vehicle? Also support a portable refrigerator, without the key turned on, if possible functioning estimate running time a weekend would be a good base. Plus run a portable microwave or instant pot. Still without key turned on. Hoping this Prime will allow better off the the grid fun. Best regards, Mango.
Yes there is a fix. People can take their vehicle to a Toyota service department and if it applies to that specific vehicle they will replace the tank.
Technically, not switchable. This is a factory installed option/package so you can’t go to your dealer and ask for it as an upgrade. Having the 6.6 kWh onboard charger (OBC) will only truly benefit you if you plug into a Level 2, 240V wall plug or charging station. If you plug into a standard 120V wall plug it’ll take 12 hrs even with the 6.6 OBC. That’s been my experience in my new 2021 Prime XSE AWD. Note: Don’t use general-use extension cords as they aren’t rated to handle the amps needed to charge your vehicle. They’ll get hot and could melt or catch fire. I’ve seen some that are supposedly rated to handle the amps, but I’d still advise against them all.
It charges plenty fast on 240v.... 4.5 hrs with the standard 3.3 kw charger and 2.5 hrs with the optional 6.6 kw charger that comes in the XSE Premium.
@@dlg5485 When I take my 2021 Prime XSE AWD to ChargePoint stations, it takes 4 hrs to fully charge even though I have the 6.6 kW Onboard Charger. Not sure what’s up with that.
@@dlg5485 I agree… They get paid the longer you stay connected. Why would they let you charge in 2.5hrs when they can bleed you for 4hrs. The thing to take note on is that different stations have sometimes largely varying per hour rates. The ones by my work? $2.375/hr that you charge. One at a park-and-ride near my house is only $1.25/hr. Sure it’s only a dollar and change of a difference, but as often as you need to charge it all adds up.
Yeah, drivers seat heat on max and passenger seat on 1/3. Plus, he had the cabin heat on, which would use a heating element and a lot of energy. He did have the AC button on which controls if the compressor runs to dry out the air. So he had the temp turned up and AC button on which blows hot dry air. If he had the temp dialed low and AC on, it would have blown cool dry air. Electric heating element uses a lot of watts and so no wonder having on the heated seats and the cabin heat and the AC compressor, it was using more energy than he was putting in from a tiny 120v circuit.
I'm terrible at math. So can anyone tell me if this vehicle is $10k+ more then the regular RAV4 hybrid how many $35 dollar tanks of gas will it take to make this model worth it ?
All depends on the kind of driving you do. If you have a short commute to work or the grocery store, you can go months without needing gas. I only use gas when I take skiing trips or have to travel 20 miles or longer. Full range is 600 miles per full tank and full battery. Always charge over night to extend your miles on long trips.
The RAV4 Prime - the car that no dealer has.
seems like the only ones they had they gave away to reviewers
I put my name in at a dealer months ago. They just called me when an XSE came in and I bought it. Put your name it!
We just bought one. Our son called around and found a dealer with two.
@@radiant_rj I ordered mine from Round Rock, TX dealership in June of 2020. Picked it up in May 2021. $500 deposit refundable deposit. MSRP.
If you really want one, go to a dealership in your area and ask to be called when one arrives. I was called Friday 8/6/21 night then was at the dealership when they opened at 9am (as I’m sure they called tons of other people) on Saturday. Left a few hrs later with a fully loaded XSE (even has the roof racks and running boards). Very happy with this vehicle… not to mention the $$$ I’ll save not having to gas up as often in California.
Nice video for the 50 people who got the 50 primes available lol
Yeah seriously!
You can pay extra and get it
We have two.
First be paid $667 under MSRP Aug 2020
Second July 2021 paid $350 over MSRP.
There out there and you don’t need to pay thousands over MSRP.
@@rncondie how? Where are you? In LA been to over 10 dealerships and all over 10k mrsp
@@rncondie In California, dealers are trying to add this BS up charge called “Market Adjustment” of like $3500-5000. Just talk them down. They’ll erase it. I went in with $20K cash as my down payment. Told them I wanted it under their MSRP or I’m walking. Two Stacks of High Society within arms reach? They sold me the Prime XSE $500 under their MSRP and removed the Market Adjustment crap completely.
So if you can’t plug in , can you leave the car running on hybrid traction battery and have access to heat / ac - how long will it run if you tell it to not turn car off after 1 hr
The Michael Scott of salesman seeing you hop in the back. Quirky but good at sales
LOL
This guy is a national treasure. Love it
How to turn the 3.3 onboard charger to take 240 Volt outlet (4.5 hours)?
Is there an adaptor we can buy?
I would like to know if the RAV4 Prime, remote connect app, is functioning properly and allowing you to control "Charge Management" and "climate Settings" remotely from your phone!! (because they took this feature away from the Prius Prime 2020).
The RAV4 Prime seems to have some type of program to determine how much range you have based on your driving style. When I drive on the freeway or drive stepping on the brakes and gas all the time, I get 41 mile range on a full charge. When I drive 25 mph and gently stop and accelerate (not super slow to be annoying), I get 45 mile range.
All Toyota hybrid systems learn your style based on fuel economy from past tanks and other factors. You get more out of your gas the more consistent you drive
45 miles will cover most of my daily trips.
Since I'll rarely be using gasoline I would suggest putting STA-BIL gasoline additive into the tank to keep it from going bad.
That's correct. When I drive around town, I get 50 miles per charge. After a highway trip, it usually drops to 42-45 miles of electric only.
more than a month and I will be able to test all this 😀 always interesting videos with humor
Nice! I'm gonna work hard until I get this car!
I just got mine and I couldn't love it any more
What happens if there is a power failure whilst charging. Does it auto continue or charge slower or does it require unplug and plug in again...handshake?
One possible use for "My Room Mode" is having the air-conditioning on when you leave the family pet in the car as you shop or eat at a place with a charge point.
That's amazingly thoughtful, thank you for the tip.
@@TerryFT86 - This won't work! The "My Room" Mode only works when the car's systems are powered up, and that can only happen if the key fob is in the vehicle. You would never leave the key fob in an unattended vehicle while you are in a store or a restaurant - anyone could just walk up, unplug the charge cable, and drive away with your car. So forget about leaving the a/c on for your dog while you are away from the vehicle.
@@laura-ann.0726 actually you can. turn vehicle on. lock doors. manually unlock drivers door. remove the hard key from the FOB. leave fob inside vehicle (out of view) and exit vehicle. close door and lock using the actual key. there you go!
Fob doesn’t need to remain in the car once started. You can program the car to lock the charger so it can’t be stolen.
How long does battery last on room mode with AC on if car is NOT plugged in
Thanks for the video, Jeff.
Perhaps you can answer a question that has been bugging me. I have sleep apnea and require a CPAP machine which I run off of the 12V battery. My question revolves around how the 12V battery gets its charge.
What happens if I plug in, enter room mode and the EV Battery gets to a full charge. Will the 12V battery eventually run down and shut off my CPAP?
In a similar vein, what if I do not have electricity available, so I use Ready Mode instead, but I start the night with a full EV battery so that the engine does not have to cycle for long enough that the 12v battery gets drained?
The answers I get to these questions always seem to miss the target. I am beginning to suspect that the only way I can camp in my Rav4 Prime is to use the Ready mode exclusively, and only then if the EV battery is low on charge.
I believe the engine will automatically start up and recharge the battery until it's full and then shut off again while keeping the AC running.
Will the Rav4 prime kick the engine on to recharge the battery if you're using to much power running the AC system while plugged into the charging outlet?
@Potato oh that's to bad, thanks to the info
@Potato so I can run the AC and use as much power as I need and have the engine supplement that power if the charging station isn't providing enough.
@Potato owners on reddit are saying otherwise. That you can do this and that the Prius does the same also
Nice but how do you open the hatch door from the inside?
is that safe to do in the rain/ wet?
I also am concerned seeing the amount of water near that charging area. Is that safe?
@@robertreinauer it's fine
What is the charge time with 6.6 kw charger and 120V source?
About 11 hours.
7 hours charge for 45 miles ev mode?
How far will it go on a tank of gas after the electric Runs Out? I've heard the gas tank size has been decreased
I get an average of 350 miles on a full tank of gas. It says like 450 HV (hybrid vehicle) miles left once i fill-up with a full tank, but when i'm running low on gas and fill-up and check the miles, it always seems to be lower like 350 used. Not sure why.
Nice review of the room mode
I think I would prefer the Crown Signia for overnight camping.
Much more room and probably better resale value.
Yes I know it's a new release.
Great video as always. Do you happen to know if the 2023 Rav4 Hybrid has the ,"My Room" Mode? Thank you so much in advance.
I want a Prius Prime, but Rav4 Prime looks more comfortable. Price tag will take me to the Prius Prime, though.
It's only a couple thousand more, you can afford it.
Hi Jeff, thanks for your videos. Very informative and I get your sense of humor. :)
Quick question, how do you open the trunk liftgate in the Room mode when you're in the trunk besides using the button all the way up by the steering column? Does the key FOB work? Or you have to get out using the rear psgr doors?
Do you have a RAV4 PRIME for sale?
Wasn't aware of my room mode. Wonder if the Lexus NX 450h+ has a similar function.
Using only battery power, can a insta pot, coffee maker, ICECO i Cooler operate without draining battery?
Can you plug it into a standard garage outlet?
Yes
@@akis.4493 thanks.
I put a deposit down for a RAV4 prime XSE. Waited for it to come in. Then the stealership sold it out from under me to someone else…
Toyota and the State of Texas did nothing.
I’m not hurting terribly for a vehicle so I’m going to wait for this craziness to end, if it ever does.
Excellent instructions. I had no idea how it works
I wanted to buy. But after I hear that no quick charger option (about 20min etc) in the electric charger station, I give up to buy Rav4 Plug in Hybrid. No body dont talk about that. But I think absent to quick charge option is biggest problem. Most of the people don't want to wait 2.5 hour in overseas countries and 5 hours in Japan. It is not best. Mitsubishi eclipse cross Phev has quick charger option and 10000 dolar cheaper than rav4 phev.
Very good video. I want one. How much would it cost to charge from empty to full per month at home.
I just picked up a Red/Blk 2021 Prime XSE AWD. As you didn’t provide how many miles you drive per month and other driving factors (leadfoot speeder or 24/7 easy stop and go/flat or incline roads/city vs hwy usage) this one is hard to answer. Good thing is that you can call your electric company and tell them you are charging an EV and they can change your plan so that you pay less kilowatts per hour.
@@jiggawuhhjiggawho Oh wow, that is a lot of factors. I drive a lot! I drive for uber. Mostly moderate speeds soft stops, mostly flat. lol But yeah, too many variables for an easy answer.
Does this mode come on all RAV4 Primes? I'm ordering a 2022 XSE but the cheapest package.
Love the energy 🎉
Question: can I charge the vehicle using an extension cord if nearest power source is further away than length of the supplied charging cable ?
You are going to need a fat gauge cord. At least 12 gauge for a 15 amp 120v circuit. But please talk to an electrician and avoid using extension cords if at all possible. Electric cars use a lot of electricity for a long time. This can lead to heat buildup and fire!
I been glamping in my 21 Venza since October
Does the Prius Prime have "My Room" Mode? I have a 2019 PP, and I've not seen this in the menu options when I plug it into an L2 charger.
I don’t believe it does
Hmm but I’m not positive
How do you know the charging is going up to full or 50% ? Where you can check while it is charging?
3:20
Just open your door, as he showed, and the current charge status will briefly show on the display.
How do you get the 6.6 Kwh on-board charger? I don't see options for that. Or does that simply come with the Fully loaded Premium options on the XSE? (this one in the video obviously did not and it came with a 3.3 Kwh on-board charger).
They make you buy the fully loaded one
They've changed it now. The 2023 and newer (2024) base models Se come with the 6.6 kwh battery charger.
As you continue the helpful information research on the Rav 4 Prime can you operate this Rav 4 prime without passenger and back seats, to set up a camping type vehicle? Also support a portable refrigerator, without the key turned on, if possible functioning estimate running time a weekend would be a good base. Plus run a portable microwave or instant pot. Still without key turned on. Hoping this Prime will allow better off the the grid fun.
Best regards, Mango.
Cool video Jeff! That would be so handy for camping! Very informative! Mark in Iowa.
Just bought my rav 4 prime, appreciated the good info.
did they solve the gas tank problem? Do you get 14.5 gallons in that or just 10.5?
Yes there is a fix. People can take their vehicle to a Toyota service department and if it applies to that specific vehicle they will replace the tank.
Did anyone tell you that u act and look like Milton from the movie office space ?
hi jeff, if i choose the 6kw option, is it 6kw only or 3/6kw switchable?
Technically, not switchable. This is a factory installed option/package so you can’t go to your dealer and ask for it as an upgrade. Having the 6.6 kWh onboard charger (OBC) will only truly benefit you if you plug into a Level 2, 240V wall plug or charging station. If you plug into a standard 120V wall plug it’ll take 12 hrs even with the 6.6 OBC. That’s been my experience in my new 2021 Prime XSE AWD. Note: Don’t use general-use extension cords as they aren’t rated to handle the amps needed to charge your vehicle. They’ll get hot and could melt or catch fire. I’ve seen some that are supposedly rated to handle the amps, but I’d still advise against them all.
@@jiggawuhhjiggawho thanks thats really helpful
I like the supersonic red wish they had that color on hybrid xse.
No one can take the cord from the car but they can unplug it from the outlet so that’s annoying
Will room mode ever come to the hybrids?
Hey Jeff. Great information.
How long does it take to DC fast charge? How often can DC fast charging be used without messing up the battery?
No DC fast charging available on Rav 4 Prime.
It charges plenty fast on 240v.... 4.5 hrs with the standard 3.3 kw charger and 2.5 hrs with the optional 6.6 kw charger that comes in the XSE Premium.
@@dlg5485 When I take my 2021 Prime XSE AWD to ChargePoint stations, it takes 4 hrs to fully charge even though I have the 6.6 kW Onboard Charger. Not sure what’s up with that.
@@jiggawuhhjiggawho I think a lot of public stations are questionable.
@@dlg5485 I agree… They get paid the longer you stay connected. Why would they let you charge in 2.5hrs when they can bleed you for 4hrs. The thing to take note on is that different stations have sometimes largely varying per hour rates. The ones by my work? $2.375/hr that you charge. One at a park-and-ride near my house is only $1.25/hr. Sure it’s only a dollar and change of a difference, but as often as you need to charge it all adds up.
The singing😂
Lets play with electricity and plug some things outside while in rainy conditions
Turkey timer. That must be the official term.
If this was an option back in 2019 when I got my new Rav4 I would have gotten this
This is awesome! Too bad you can't buy one :)
Just got one, in So. Cal, paid for it on dealers who has an allocation ,coming from Japan .
Please relax
“Cheese puffs. Hollah!” Wow.
One of the 50 🤣🤣🤣 took 3 weeks get my hands on it
Like the video despite all the cringe catchphrases
you are crazy 🤪
cheese puffs? Holla
Please no cutesy bs. Just the facts.
Hello, It is interesting. Thank You For Noticing Me. I learn How It works. I am impressed. Cool. One Day, I would have it anytime. 😊
First turn off seat heater 😉😉😉
Yeah, drivers seat heat on max and passenger seat on 1/3. Plus, he had the cabin heat on, which would use a heating element and a lot of energy. He did have the AC button on which controls if the compressor runs to dry out the air. So he had the temp turned up and AC button on which blows hot dry air. If he had the temp dialed low and AC on, it would have blown cool dry air. Electric heating element uses a lot of watts and so no wonder having on the heated seats and the cabin heat and the AC compressor, it was using more energy than he was putting in from a tiny 120v circuit.
That shitty piece of plastic wont stop me.
Чувак)))
Look what it is doing taking drugs, it is a joke thanks for your video
Keep your day job, Motown ain't looking fo you
Singing gave you thumbs down🤣
The ADHD moments are unnecessary. Please stop.
I'm terrible at math. So can anyone tell me if this vehicle is $10k+ more then the regular RAV4
hybrid how many $35 dollar tanks of gas will it take to make this model worth it ?
All depends on the kind of driving you do. If you have a short commute to work or the grocery store, you can go months without needing gas. I only use gas when I take skiing trips or have to travel 20 miles or longer. Full range is 600 miles per full tank and full battery. Always charge over night to extend your miles on long trips.