We have the JBL system in our older HIghlander. It's good enough to keep me from spending thousands on a new system but it's not great. Sound deadening is the key. Spend some time and a couple hundred bucks sound deadening the doors, rear hatch, dash, trunk lid and floor. It's well worth it.
@jamyah3413 Doors are infinity kappa 6.5 63xf ,3.5 infinity kappa perfect speakers for dashboard on a Toro audio Mrx4 and Cxa 800.1 Kicker amplifier for the 12in resiliente sounds gold subwoofer in ported box.
i've been driving a 2012 camry for a couple years now and i like the car, nice suspension, space, power isn't too bad, mileage is decent enough considering the size... but... the audio system!??!? OH MY GAWWWWDDDDUHHHHHHH listen to that bass!!! it's like MISSING A WHOLE OCTAVE, boomy, and just... oh god the treble... i could go on... i'm running an external lithium-powered headphone amp in the signal just to make it loud enough. some soft stuff? black sabbath or i wanna say jimmy buffet... you gotta put it up to like 56 (out of 64) (with the headphone amp up 65%!!!) just to be able to hear it at 40mph!
Just upgraded to a camry gle 2023 (previously camry 2015) Speakers wise 2015 > 2023 Camry 2023 speakers are so terrible compared to 2015. one song the bass/mid/treble is good next one it sounds terrible you always have to adjust the sound depending on the song
I have a 21 model with the jbl sound system and the amount of rattling in the back along with the subwoofer it causes is absolutely bonkers. Wish there was a solution to it.
my car did not come with with factory JBL so i replaced all factory audio speakers with JBL and even added a 12 inch JBLsub in my rear deck, and yes i figured out the rattling ,, { well in my car ) i did use sound deadening on top and some on the lower part of the deck , also wrapped the seat belt cups with foam weather striping, but the main thing was the rear deck panel is real thin metal, so i did use some metal strips on the underside to help brace the rear deck panel for the better part i have little to no rattles in the rear deck now
Have a 2019 Camry XSE with the JBL “premium sound system” and my rear speakers just died. My 3/36 warranty has expired so replacements at the dealer, $1000.00 usd. Sounds Crazy, it is. Don’t be fooled by the JBL badge on this system. These factory JBL speakers are cheap. Upgrading to aftermarket replacements. Speakers + mounting hardware, front and rear doors, $150.00
Wish you did a hip hop song. I just got a 2023 XSE today and the rattling coming from the speakers was horrible. This was with everything set on the middle range. Even turning the bass almost off there is still rattling
Do you have the JBL upgrade or just stock? I'm considering getting the stock system option then get a shop to add a bit of bass since the upgrade from Toyota is so expensive. From most of the reviewers I've read and seen the cost for what you get isn't as good as getting a bass upgrade elsewhere.
@@AndreNguyen7 I believe I have the upgrade but it came with the model I bought. My car is currently back at Toyota because of the noise the speaker was making and they sent me home with a rental Camry with stock speakers. I’d rather have these stock speakers over the nosies coming from the upgraded ones
I have the same problem here. I’ve wanted an xle or xse with Jbl sound system and now that I got it I kinda regret getting one with jbl because the door panel and subwoofer in the back rattles almost on all of the songs i play. Did they anything about the noises you had? Because I’m also about to bring mine to Toyota and tell them about it.
5 years ago in your 2108 review, provided a musical demonstration of the JBL audio system in the 2018 Camry and gave it a grade of "B - ". What is the difference now with an upgraded Infotainment system and possible JBL upgraded to their Amplifier that sits under the driver's seat? In this video for 2023 you gave it a "B". Personally, Mid-Range is the focus for my listening since I dislike thumping Bass. My 2009 Hyundai Sonata GSL 3.3L V6 with 6 speakers delivers better audio with its factory stereo system than Toyota's JBL and Honda's Bose. We're paying for the Brand Name and not getting a real Premium Sound system.
@@RomanM803 I would if I could, but yeah, the factory radio is trash. And the reliance on bluetooth/AndroidAuto tech to put my music through the speakers and dealing with other "phone" stuff that can happen at the same time is very annoying.
@@RomanM803I didn't think you understand, the benefits and compromises of an after market head unit and an OEM HU. second , not everyone that takes the time to install aftermarket gear buys the cheapest android os hu.
Love this review, I was waiting for this one since I need a new car lol... what happened to your older videos? I can't find some of the lexus videos that you reviewed which is also on my list to purchase.
JBL really dropped the ball on this setup. The tweeters are tinny sounding and the front center stage is literally dead front center with a narrow band rather than directed toward the driver or passenger seats evenly. The rear seat door speakers add a strangely balanced 'surround sound' to the cabin when fading slightly rear and the free air sub provides "sub bass" tones that sound no better than a decent aftermarket 6x9. Not to mention the rear deck rattle out the box at specific hz absolutely kills the entire listening experience. If Toyota integrated a simple 3 band parametric equalizer and sub control into the HU, then tightened up the rear deck/cover with more dampening instead of weird foam, I think this could have solved a lot of the issues, but their aim was a flat response and lack of quality control that just didn't make it. AND to top it all off, the crossovers are set in stone, so upgrading to aftermarket would add little benefit without introducing a standalone DSP to override the HU factory settings. Not to mention that the front speaker and sub wiring has to be tapped in to to get full range control with an aftermarket sub. For the price of the upgrade, the entire system makes no sense to me and Toyota and/or JBL provides zero useful specs for the installed amp. Very disappointing.
I would be surprised if a JBL engineer even saw these speakers in real life before putting the signature on the marketing deal. Most car manufacturers use their own speakers or 3rd party ones and just license out the name for advertisement.
stage front audio should be center right above your dashboard, the average customer has no clue what parametric is for it to be baked in oem. Also you didn't need Dampening for panel resonance, you need to decouple, which is why they used foam. but really you need to decouple the pillar And the panel leading to the boot if the car.
@@comebackszn57 I added sound deadening to the thinner parts of the rear deck and had to insulate the plastic seatbelt trim covers and deck cover grille, then fashion a wedge between the C pillars and rear deck cover at the pillar's edges, out of sight, which helped. But there's still some resonance at certain times, during certain frequencies, at certain volumes, although never consistent. The headliner clips and a specific edge at the moon roof needs work too. I also had to disassemble the front passenger's side window control cover and methodically dampen that because the front door full range started buzzing it. The assembly (or design?) on this thing is unbelievable. What do you mean by decouple and how could I approach that?
I got the 2023 Camry XLE Hybrid yesterday with JBL and love the audio system. However, when I connect Android Auto and try to use volume buttons on the steering wheel or car's head to control the volume on TH-cam, they activate Poweramp on my phone. This is so annoying! Basically, I cannot control the volume on any other player because Poweramp would turn on. Is there any way to disable that from happening? I never had this issue on the 2017 Accord Hybrid.
Sonata has better speaker bose system is way better they need to step their game up and I have the same Camry from this video but the sonata limited have way better features by far 👍🏽
The way people drive on the highways in America is totally chaotic dangerous and with complete disregard to other drivers. (Sorry I'm from Europe and I had to write this here)
Depends on the city. In metro Seattle people generally drive safe; hardly change lanes and stay at or under speed limit. I travelled to metro LA recently and drivers there drive all sorts of ways. Defensive driving is required in USA regardless for safety reasons. Meaning Change lanes behind the passing car not in front of passing car.
Bro had country music to test it 💀
We have the JBL system in our older HIghlander. It's good enough to keep me from spending thousands on a new system but it's not great. Sound deadening is the key. Spend some time and a couple hundred bucks sound deadening the doors, rear hatch, dash, trunk lid and floor. It's well worth it.
How did you do that?
How does it compare to the standard 6 speaker setup? Clarity wise. Of course the jbl has more power and bass. Thanks
a lot better, it has two more tweaters
@@seth2nice452 And a 10" woofer in the back
I whent aftermarket with my 2022 camry LE best choice in my opinion for someone who loves loud and clear music.
What setup did you buy?
@jamyah3413 Doors are infinity kappa 6.5 63xf ,3.5 infinity kappa perfect speakers for dashboard on a Toro audio Mrx4 and Cxa 800.1 Kicker amplifier for the 12in resiliente sounds gold subwoofer in ported box.
To those who have both listened to the Rav4 and the camry JBL sound systems, which one do you think is the best? What do you think Charlie?
i've been driving a 2012 camry for a couple years now and i like the car, nice suspension, space, power isn't too bad, mileage is decent enough considering the size... but... the audio system!??!? OH MY GAWWWWDDDDUHHHHHHH listen to that bass!!! it's like MISSING A WHOLE OCTAVE, boomy, and just... oh god the treble... i could go on... i'm running an external lithium-powered headphone amp in the signal just to make it loud enough. some soft stuff? black sabbath or i wanna say jimmy buffet... you gotta put it up to like 56 (out of 64) (with the headphone amp up 65%!!!) just to be able to hear it at 40mph!
It sounds better than my 8 speaker bose in my gmc acadia
Bose is getting behind the curve these days it seems.
Just upgraded to a camry gle 2023 (previously camry 2015)
Speakers wise 2015 > 2023
Camry 2023 speakers are so terrible compared to 2015.
one song the bass/mid/treble is good next one it sounds terrible you always have to adjust the sound depending on the song
I have a 21 model with the jbl sound system and the amount of rattling in the back along with the subwoofer it causes is absolutely bonkers. Wish there was a solution to it.
What's the solution?
Haven't people used sound deadening insolation (example being foam) as a way to rectify that issue?
my car did not come with with factory JBL so i replaced all factory audio speakers with JBL and even added a 12 inch JBLsub in my rear deck, and yes i figured out the rattling ,, { well in my car ) i did use sound deadening on top and some on the lower part of the deck , also wrapped the seat belt cups with foam weather striping, but the main thing was the rear deck panel is real thin metal, so i did use some metal strips on the underside to help brace the rear deck panel for the better part i have little to no rattles in the rear deck now
A solution to this is to put foam in between the rear window and the deck. Something they should have done from the factory. lol
@@yovannyarenas760 sound deadening
Have a 2019 Camry XSE with the JBL “premium sound system” and my rear speakers just died. My 3/36 warranty has expired so replacements at the dealer, $1000.00 usd. Sounds Crazy, it is. Don’t be fooled by the JBL badge on this system. These factory JBL speakers are cheap. Upgrading to aftermarket replacements. Speakers + mounting hardware, front and rear doors, $150.00
I really want to see a video like this with the 2025 Toyota Camry XSE when it’s available to drive
Absolutely!
Wish you did a hip hop song. I just got a 2023 XSE today and the rattling coming from the speakers was horrible. This was with everything set on the middle range. Even turning the bass almost off there is still rattling
Do you have the JBL upgrade or just stock? I'm considering getting the stock system option then get a shop to add a bit of bass since the upgrade from Toyota is so expensive. From most of the reviewers I've read and seen the cost for what you get isn't as good as getting a bass upgrade elsewhere.
@@AndreNguyen7 I believe I have the upgrade but it came with the model I bought. My car is currently back at Toyota because of the noise the speaker was making and they sent me home with a rental Camry with stock speakers. I’d rather have these stock speakers over the nosies coming from the upgraded ones
I have the same problem here. I’ve wanted an xle or xse with Jbl sound system and now that I got it I kinda regret getting one with jbl because the door panel and subwoofer in the back rattles almost on all of the songs i play. Did they anything about the noises you had? Because I’m also about to bring mine to Toyota and tell them about it.
5 years ago in your 2108 review, provided a musical demonstration of the JBL audio system in the 2018 Camry and gave it a grade of "B - ". What is the difference now with an upgraded Infotainment system and possible JBL upgraded to their Amplifier that sits under the driver's seat? In this video for 2023 you gave it a "B". Personally, Mid-Range is the focus for my listening since I dislike thumping Bass. My 2009 Hyundai Sonata GSL 3.3L V6 with 6 speakers delivers better audio with its factory stereo system than Toyota's JBL and Honda's Bose. We're paying for the Brand Name and not getting a real Premium Sound system.
Is it true that the head unit cannot be swapped for aftermarket units? My subs and amps deserve a better head unit.
You could just run sound directly to your first amp. Bypassing the head unit entirely
So you’re gonna swap out a good working head unit with AppleCar for a crappy aftermarket unit. That’s a downgrade
@@RomanM803 I would if I could, but yeah, the factory radio is trash. And the reliance on bluetooth/AndroidAuto tech to put my music through the speakers and dealing with other "phone" stuff that can happen at the same time is very annoying.
@@RomanM803I didn't think you understand, the benefits and compromises of an after market head unit and an OEM HU.
second , not everyone that takes the time to install aftermarket gear buys the cheapest android os hu.
Love this review, I was waiting for this one since I need a new car lol... what happened to your older videos? I can't find some of the lexus videos that you reviewed which is also on my list to purchase.
Nvm it's on your main channel xD
once you do a car model it would be awesome if you could do both the top and the base so there is easy decision thank you
I have a 2021 Camry. I think the JBL sound system could be better. But , Nissan system sound better
yeah my bass raddles. its not good.
JBL really dropped the ball on this setup. The tweeters are tinny sounding and the front center stage is literally dead front center with a narrow band rather than directed toward the driver or passenger seats evenly. The rear seat door speakers add a strangely balanced 'surround sound' to the cabin when fading slightly rear and the free air sub provides "sub bass" tones that sound no better than a decent aftermarket 6x9. Not to mention the rear deck rattle out the box at specific hz absolutely kills the entire listening experience. If Toyota integrated a simple 3 band parametric equalizer and sub control into the HU, then tightened up the rear deck/cover with more dampening instead of weird foam, I think this could have solved a lot of the issues, but their aim was a flat response and lack of quality control that just didn't make it. AND to top it all off, the crossovers are set in stone, so upgrading to aftermarket would add little benefit without introducing a standalone DSP to override the HU factory settings. Not to mention that the front speaker and sub wiring has to be tapped in to to get full range control with an aftermarket sub. For the price of the upgrade, the entire system makes no sense to me and Toyota and/or JBL provides zero useful specs for the installed amp. Very disappointing.
I would be surprised if a JBL engineer even saw these speakers in real life before putting the signature on the marketing deal. Most car manufacturers use their own speakers or 3rd party ones and just license out the name for advertisement.
Then...what brand do you recommend ?
stage front audio should be center right above your dashboard, the average customer has no clue what parametric is for it to be baked in oem.
Also you didn't need Dampening for panel resonance, you need to decouple, which is why they used foam. but really you need to decouple the pillar And the panel leading to the boot if the car.
@@comebackszn57 I added sound deadening to the thinner parts of the rear deck and had to insulate the plastic seatbelt trim covers and deck cover grille, then fashion a wedge between the C pillars and rear deck cover at the pillar's edges, out of sight, which helped. But there's still some resonance at certain times, during certain frequencies, at certain volumes, although never consistent. The headliner clips and a specific edge at the moon roof needs work too. I also had to disassemble the front passenger's side window control cover and methodically dampen that because the front door full range started buzzing it. The assembly (or design?) on this thing is unbelievable. What do you mean by decouple and how could I approach that?
Where is the jbl amp located gonna add my sub from my old car in there regardless if it has jbl sound system
Would you say this or the accord Bose system sound better?
Can I upgrade my. 2020 Toyota xse speakers to jbl? If I can how can I do that
2025 they took out the subwoofer too like it needed to be worse 😭
Can't believe this got a B, it's really terrible. My 2016 hyundai sonata and its 6 speaker infinity sound system even sounds way better than it.
I got the 2023 Camry XLE Hybrid yesterday with JBL and love the audio system. However, when I connect Android Auto and try to use volume buttons on the steering wheel or car's head to control the volume on TH-cam, they activate Poweramp on my phone. This is so annoying! Basically, I cannot control the volume on any other player because Poweramp would turn on. Is there any way to disable that from happening? I never had this issue on the 2017 Accord Hybrid.
I have the same issue with my 2023 camry se
Which ones come with jbl
How does the base es300 system compare to the toyota jbl?
He reviewed that car before and called it a high B. It’s clear but lacks power.
So Lexus is slightly better by his impressions.
Could you review the Nissan Sentra Bose?? I’m curious how that would be in comparison to the Altima
Sonata has better speaker bose system is way better they need to step their game up and I have the same Camry from this video but the sonata limited have way better features by far 👍🏽
From experience the camry jbl really sucks I would be hesitant to even give it a “C”
I just test drove a 2023 just like this. After hearing the jbl in the Avalon, it ruined it for me. Now I don't want the Camry...
The way people drive on the highways in America is totally chaotic dangerous and with complete disregard to other drivers. (Sorry I'm from Europe and I had to write this here)
Depends on the city. In metro Seattle people generally drive safe; hardly change lanes and stay at or under speed limit. I travelled to metro LA recently and drivers there drive all sorts of ways. Defensive driving is required in USA regardless for safety reasons. Meaning Change lanes behind the passing car not in front of passing car.
does the 2018 one sound identical?
It should, though I haven't reviewed it directly.
Interesting that this JBL 9 speaker set up is rated a “B” and the 15 speaker JBL in my 4R Pro is “C” tier. 🤔
Number of speakers doesn't matter much
@@121476 Good point