I did the free bounty hunter quest and enjoyed it, I have the 1000 credits that came with premium edition, but im holding off for now on getting vulture. I don't like that they put a single quest behind a paywall. They said they are going to come out with more tracker quests, so why not just make it a full dlc instead of having to buy it a quest at a time?
@@starfieldsignal Elianora is doing Hab sets. The current release is Crimson Fleet themed, but more are on the way. Worth a look, especially if you know her work.
They didn't say you have to BUY every quest. Maybe some will be free. Maybe all the rest will be free. Maybe every quest will be $7. Who knows. I certainly will not pay $7 per quest one at a time. And Iam a huge Starfield supporter. If they can't sell me on these, they are not selling the General Public, thats for sure.
@@starfieldsignal If the loot progression was more about small increments, rather than plopping everything in your lap, the game would have more meaning, and quest would be fun. If the quest didn't fly at you, and you had to search to find them in order to trigger them, then the game would be much more fun. The game just gives you everything, and it makes exploration dry and dull. The pampered babies had fun making a game on the consumers back, instead of making a fun game for the consumer. Their pay should be revoked honestly.
Missed opportunity not using the brig hab on your ship too. As soon as I heard about the trackers alliance, I immediately thought, maybe we will have a use for the brig and possibly the infirmary. Hopefully in a future update, finger crossed!
@@MrArchilusPart of his defense is the fact that no one knew he was using proxies. So I wonder how that would change his Modus Operandi if there is a continuation.
I remember my first DLC horse armor. I appreciate that you've kept such a cool head through the process. I'm just recently considering stepping back into my steam version for the creation kit and what the community can open up. Random side note - When I tell my wife "Starfield, ya know, Skyrim in space", she goes, right, the one with Patrick Stweart. (Oblivion ✨)
I’m hoping the fee for the Vulture quest ends up being a one-time fee for the rest of the Tracker’s Alliance quest line. That being said, that new sniper rifle is my new favorite gun in the game and my new main weapon.
Paying $7 for 1 quest is outrageous. There will be at least one more Tracker Quest. Don't give BGS any money for the questline. Instead, wait for modders to create their own Trackers Alliance free quests.
@@amitansurkar1769 There are amazing quests by modders at Fallout 4, namely the Enclave mod 'America Rising 2' that involves at least a dozen missions, new locations on the map, new weapons, armor, story line etc. I hope these guys can bring such quests to Starfield as well.
Uh, no. It is pay IF you want the 2nd Alliance mission. Nothing more, nothing less. It is a totally optional mission that you can choose to consume or not. I'm sure there will be more tracker alliance missions created by modders for free. You can also choose those or not.
Imagine if they did one that was like jack the ripper in space. Or perhaps an organized crime mob that you have to infiltrate. Surely the star jacker guy will be seen again
Imagine infiltrating a Organized Crime Ring seeking to bag the Godfather... but Plot Twist: The reason the Authorities weren't succeeding at finding and identifying the Godfather was because... the Leader was actually a Godgranny! :P
I got to this video after looking up how to finish the quest line. I can't believe this is all you would get for a single quest... Mind blowingly bad for Bethesda.
Having heard Starfield doesn't intend to have surface vehicles in it; possibly they could adjust that to only having rentable mini-subs from an off-shore platform.
In case no one has mentioned it, your fallout 4 and starfield creation clubs are connected, if you had points in fo4, your amount will carry over to starfield. A nice thing to know if perhaps you had bought currency for the fo4 next gen update, just to find out that it was going to be a swansong for fo4 creations.
Bethesda kind of abandoned FO4 in 2019, and the modding community gave up on it sooner around 2018. The revival of interest in Fallout 4 thanks to the show, is kind of a miraculous rediscovery of what I think was the best Fallout game so far, and I know that is a very heretical statement given peoples love for NV or FO3 and even the first 2. I think what happened to Fallout 4 is in some ways what happened to Starfield. Those of us who loved it and played it, loved it and played it and stayed away from all the detractors and the stupid drama around it, those who hated it not only stopped playing the game, they made it a mission to take down Bethesda at all costs. Now all that said, I don't think that Bethesda are saints, and I could go on a list of things they could do better, but at the end of the day, I get something from their games I don't really get from other RPG's. So after all that said, I do agree with you that maybe for the creation's golden cow it is over, but support for FO4 has just been revived.
@@ViothonI think BGS are generally pretty good at supporting games long term. Supporting an SP game for 5 years is quite a lot. And I agree with you with FO4. The story isn't as good as NV and 3, but it more than makes up for it by having super fun game mechanics and open world
Right there with ya. It’s got flaws and it teases us big time with gameplay mechanics/features but I think this game will become what we all expect it to be in due time
2:45ish... If the Enemies got new Weapon Types, they'd have to Drop those as Lewt, right? Then either those New Weapons suck and why were they even Coded in or they rock and we approach dangerously close to the line of "P2W"... slippery slope there... 10:30ish... Real cold Devs... real cold thing to do... 12:45ish... Lightning's my fav Element to beat stuff up with, but honestly EM Weapons like the Novablast Disrupter disappointed me... especially when they did NOT turn out to be able to direct damage Robots and Turrets like i'd swear I heard they would during Starfield's Pre-Release info. They need all the buffs to their usefulness they can get.
The Vulture Bounty seems to have loose ties to the Freestar Ranger quest chain. He seems to be a member of the 1st and terminals mentions he has friends on a Hopetech job.
I have generally avoided the Creation Club, except for the free Creations that auto-installed with Skyrim Anniversary Edition, and I didn't exactly go looking to complete the content from those, I just kind of took the quests as I happened across them. Am I correctly understanding that the first part of the Trackers Alliance questline will be auto-installed for free, but it's a hook to persuade me to pay for additional modules? I don't like that, and I might either try to ignore the questline or even find a way to remove the first module.
Not quite. The Trackers Alliance and first quest were patched directly into the base game. There is no module to uninstall. Ignore it if you must, but I expect Modders to release "unofficial and free" quests for it soon enough.
@@Starcat5 You mean the bait is all in Starfield.esm, rather than an auto-installed .esl file? Ick, that's even worse. I'm almost tempted to avoid going back to the game, but your suggestion of "unofficial and free" quests sounds good, or alternatively I could try to find (or make) a mod that disables the relevant quest giver(s).
I'm never gonna pay for additional quest, so as it stands the trackers alliance is not a player faction to me. It's just a NPC faction that you do 1 quest for and in exchange you get a bunch of loot without continuation. It's basically a secondary quest lol.
I have mixed feelings about the first Tracker Alliance mission. The tutorial for using the scanner to locate a bounty was simple. I really enjoyed the space yard part of the mission as that is the only zero-G combat environment I have found except for the casino. But the end result of the mission was ruined for me because the mission design didn't account for my crew. When we boarded the ship to go to the space yard, my constellation crew came to that ship. They were giving me the usual reports when we took off and grav jumped. When my advisor and I went into the space yard, I left behind Sarah, Barrett and Sam who are all heavily armed and armored combat experienced Constellation members. What the HELL were they doing between the time I left ship and when I boarded the junker ship? I am trying to keep this spoiler free as possible, so I am hoping you understand why this bothers me so much. I am annoyed with myself, but mostly from a hindsight perspective. I didn't talk to any of my Constellation companions while we were on either ship, so maybe I missed some conversation options related to the Tracker mission. I have 3 other characters saved who can join the Trackers Alliance, so when I do, I will pay closer attention to my crew and talk to them during the mission.
The paid one is much simpler. Go to existing cave then go to existing hotel. The quest is a thin layer over a gun and reskins. So if you think free one is not worth 700 credits that puts the paid one at much much lower value. It is sad as a dlc (not paid mod) that gave trackers the quality of other factions quests would have been great
I am not doing it. Not about to do an in-app purchase, and that is what it is, to finish the quest. That’s no different than browser games that try to get you to pay real money to get ahead. I will stick with Nexus.
I might buy the Vulture mission, but I don't plan to do so anytime soon. Also, I hope they have set the first mission up with changes for NG+. With knowledge of how things went in the other universe, the ability to act on that knowledge should be built into the story.
I would’t buy it due to the price. The reason is tht i think DLC like far habor is only 15-20usd but it worths hours of gameplay. So a short quest tht last 10-20 mins for usd 7 is too much. Also I don’t want the developer to think tht they can make profit in this way.
10-20 mins? It's like an hour at least, but yeah your point stands. I mean, even Shattered Space will probably be at least the size of Far Harbour and like 20-30 dolllars.
A full on bounty hunter expansion quest line would have been a take my money moment. I mean ive been in bobafett armor as soon as the mod was released and i have never taken it off… Instead they want me to shell out $10 per mediocre mission…
I spent my 1000 on the new ship modules and built my new ship around it. I'm waiting on this to find out if, once you have it, they include all future missions. If they charge for each mission, i don't want to support that kind of behavior.
I was also hoping some of the bounty hunters would be companions like we have seen in the past with bethesda guilds but yet again, solidly disappointed on the companions in this game.
Don't worry... the market will eventually determine the price of mods. Just look at the Skyrim Creations marketplace. The market has already been determined on there... This starfield one is brand new and people are obviously just trying to cash in while they can. Once a mod author creates the same type of mod for free, this $10 one will become free as well. I would hold off on paying for any mods in starfield that are not Bethesda produced content. Again, the marketplace will even itself out in time. Mod authors, in general, want to keep their mods free because it's more of a fun hobby/past time rather than a means to make money.
@@CatDadGamer oh Im not worried, the team i am with is making a fill dlc sized mod for free lol. Our last one was Galac Tac Retribution and the Mercs and music expansion. Gunna do the sameish in starfield
You don't have to pay to finish the first quest, it is free. The second quest you have to pay for. They also have a mission board where you can choose several tracker missions for free, though it's pretty much the same as the other mission board quests.
@@MrArchilus ok that's like saying oh you got your first temple well pay $7 dollars for the next one, but hey it's ok they're only connected by the main plot
Is there a known glitch with getting the first bounty NPC to spawn? I've walked around with scanner activated for days and can't find Adrastos. I've found 8 other Red bounty NPCs, but not the guy you need to move the story forward.
I experienced something similar one time, and I ended up leaving the planet and landing again to reload the city. That worked for me but not sure of what the exact issue was.
Yep. I've left the plant, waited on Venas for hundreds of hours, un-installed/re-installed the game and no luck. Meanwhile, there are three NPCs that show Red for a bounty that I cant even engage with. Disappointing. @starfieldsignal
In my view, to take a quote from the game "You can have your very own white whale". I will not buy the Bethesda bounty mission to pricy. And this is the reason why the first mission had more going for it all around. I was on another channel and they did the 2nd (700) Bethesda mission. It is a shorter mission than the first and the rewards are a sniper refile and a couple skins. There was one problem you couldn't reload the sniper refile now before you start getting all upset. He wasn't sure whether this mod wasn't compatible with one of his other mods or not. I am hoping it only effected his game. The other moders mod's are better priced and you get far more. Like the boost pack (100) it is a must have in my view. To not get it is a mistake in my view.
No one is forcing anyone to do anything. Just like in regular business, this additional mission was outside of the original "purchase order" thus requires additional budgeting. To make up the difference, they are charging $7 in the short term for those people who want to purchase every single thing and dont have a care about money. It's obviously probably not worth that and in time the price will either come down, or be free. Not to mention, mod authors will most likely recreate their own versions and issue them as free creation mods.
I wouldn't spend the $7? to get it. It's a great jumping off point for modders, though. To add to your bringing in bounties idea, if the bounty is a big wig, their underlings could attempt a rescue where you get attacked and potentially boarded, which would explain why the one guy says just kill them.
You didnt cover the loot.. was the loot either along the way or as a reward at the end any better than normal missions? that could make it worthwhile maybe. I havnt played in months so i started a new game with the june update.. going to do a bunch of other quests to level up normally (without making frames like i did last time) for a while before i take on these new quests. I have the 1000 credits from the premium edition but i spent half on the mining one which looked ok, so i will need to buy more if i end up grabbing this second bounty quest. It all looks very expensive.
The loot includes a new set of spacesuit and a weapon (plasma cutter). Also a new currency called Astras to buy weapons from a Tracker Alliance vendor.
This is what happens when you have a game that probably cost well over $100 million to develop and put it on games pass. They claimed that over 6 million people have played Starfield, but how many actually paid for it especially after it's sketchy release. This should've already have been in the game on release easily. Had this been a full priced multiplatform game they probably wouldn't have to this. This inst console waring or anything. I own all current gen console and I paid full price for Starfield because I actually believed in it.
Calm down. If all DLC ever created was supposed to be in the "base game", then the base game itself would literally never be released. Having it be paid is fine as well. It's additional content that was outside of the budget, therefore needs to be applied to a new budget... that budget has to be paid for somehow. You can simply not purchase it. In fact, as a few have already stated, someone will eventually create a free mod that does the exact same thing as the paid mod. And in time, this will cause bethesda to drop the price or make it completely free. Just take a deep breath for now and pass on the new paid additions until the market corrects it.
This is why I have such a love/hate relationship with Bethesda. I love bounty hunting & knew my background on starfield was gon' be the Bounty Hunter. I removed the brig from my ship b/c it's absolutely just a cosmetic. Bethesda games 2 me no matter how good they are always seem incomplete until some modder comes in & completes their vision 4 certain mechanics. Thank Yah 4 modders.
Paying for a quest? No thanks. I already bought the premium edition so I can get everything. I'm not paying anything on top of that not even a single penny.
Am I the only one who can't find the very first bounty to even start the damn mission? Who ever thought 3 days stuck looking for one npc who doesn't spawn in
I am a huge Starfield fanboy .. I have played the 2nd Alliance mission. Do i think it is worth $7. Well, it depends on what $7 means to you. If I go the starbucks and buy their largest coffee it is close to $7. Is the mission as good as a Starbucks coffee or a Big Mac meal at McDonalds? Sure. Is it as much content as 10% the cost of Starfield. No. So if you want to have a new mission and you have 700 creation credits available then play it. Would i go out of my way and purchase it? No. Is it anything special? No. Do I think it is WORTH $7. Sure. Would i personally have provided it for free instead if I were Bethesda? Yes 😊
Have they fixed the issue with the final gun u get with the extra payed mission? I have seen videos and ppl complaining that once u get the weapon reward from that payed mission u cant actually reload it even if u have ammo.
@@starfieldsignal Maybe they did a very small unplanned patch to solve that. I remember watching a guy buying a few of the payed mods just to look at the value of them and he made it very clear in the video that the tracking alliance weapon has bugged and he wasent the only 1 that hade that issue.
I'm commenting this on most people's concerns about the shortness of the mission. In the modders interview the modders themselves said they would be adding more content to the same mod. For example, just because its one mission right now doesn't mean the next mission could be another 7 dollars separately. It probably will be added to the same mod. Just like it says in the description for the mining conglomerate mod and the outpost luxury homes mods. They both specify that they will keep adding content to the same mod. Guys. Have faith.
I was very disappointed. It had some nice touches but was too short and ultimately unfulfilling. I do like the TA and the NPCs there and I think it has potential. Def longer missions or hopefully modders can populate the system with their own bounty quests in the future.
Thanks for the review. I will still give it a wait and see but I was expecting or hoping for a bit more. I still like to play Starfield here and there. Hopefully it will come around and if Shattered Space is as good as it appears to be then that will help. Thanks for the review. I hope they build on this because if they don't it will be a huge miss. I personally could do chained bounty missions for hours on end.
For 'free' I thought the first mission was very good. The new location was very cool, and the story actually had some thought put into it, which let's be honest, is rare with the 'Keep it Simple Stupid (an Emil quote)' mentality of BGS. So all's good. I personally liked the ending, again simply because I wasn't expecting that, and I do think we may see this person in a future mission (though they did say they were going to disappear and retire ... we'll see). I did play the second mission, which I'll just say wasn't nearly as good and not worth paying for. So I do not recommend it.
Its this kinda thing that is really pushing me away from bethesda games in general. We're sitting here waiting untill like september for mod tools. (Maybe , has the potential to be delayed with Shattered Space on the Horizon.) But they are waisting development resources on a half baked idea that would have been genuinely interesting if some thought had been put in it. But realisitically only exposes how limited this game is in a grand sense. As it stands most of the habs on your ship really have no real utility. As you said this would have been a great way to utalize the brigs in a more organic mannor. But instead we get a mission that realisitcally just says "hey buy our piecemeal DLCs that are likely going to be way more then they are worth. Or forgo any resolution to this story". There just seems to be this trend of bethesda wanting to nickel and dime every little thing, despite not really showing any desire to put time into making it worth the asking price. This is especially egregious when you've had modders doing this for years , for free or at the very least on no where near the budget most professional modders have to contend with. I really want to like this game and especially wanted this to be good. But even after all the good will they garnered with the last Update. Bethesda has managed to kinda drop the ball again.
The "mod tools" were released in this update. It's called the Creation Kit. The Creations marketplace is where you will download your mods. It's all in the same marketplace now. What BGS does very well is create a base to build onto. Mod authors will use these features to build free mods on top of that you will be able to enjoy. Use skyrim for example and the Hearthfire DLC and all of the free mods that came from that. There was definitely a lot more BGS could have done, but because of budget reasons, they stick to creating a base model for passionate gamers to build onto.
Other than ship interior design, there's nothing gameplay wise that is really new. It's more polished and feels more stable, but Shattered Space would be a great time to start up again.
So typical of Starfield, almost there but they just stop and dont do the thing that would take it from ho hum average to great. Still my best 5/10 game but with a little more effort they could easily get it to an 8 for me. It is very unlikely that I will spend my money on this.
No, it’s included in the premium edition that you can buy as an upgrade from the game pass version. It includes 1000 creation credits, shattered space, and hopefully some more stuff in the future! I would personally hold off on buying it until the DLC drops and see if it’s any good though.
Lol they put brigs in the game at launch, they do nothing. They add bounty hunting dlc features bring them in alive. . . Just not in your brig. Whoever is driving the Bethesda ship is drunk at the wheel.
I'm not going to purchase the $7 mission. But I'm also not going to bash the price tag. Reading through the comments you will see a lot of unreasonable opinions that have no idea how game development, or business, works in general. This is most likely just immaturity from young gamers that haven't experienced real world economics. That said, you have 2 options. Either spend your money to play a mission right now, that is most likely not worth the money... or don't. The price tag is simply supply/demand. If you don't know what that means, then youtube a video about it for a crash course. Honestly, you should hold off on purchasing any creations(mods) that become available over the next few weeks until the market stabilizes and honest mod authors are able to release quality content for free. Just take a deep breath and enjoy what's available for free and wait patiently for more to come.
Just give up on this game buddy, its unfortunate how boring. It really is a great game 10 years ago but its just not a modern standard game. I was so hyped for it too.
What this game doesn’t need is paid content when the base game is a bland moldy turd. I’ve been addicted to BGS since Fallout 3. This is by far the least played game they’ve released in over a decade, and yet it’s the most polished they’ve ever created. Just goes to show how bad the base game is, when the community would rather play their older broken games.
I did the free bounty hunter quest and enjoyed it, I have the 1000 credits that came with premium edition, but im holding off for now on getting vulture. I don't like that they put a single quest behind a paywall. They said they are going to come out with more tracker quests, so why not just make it a full dlc instead of having to buy it a quest at a time?
Right? I think I’ve actually changed my mind after some thought. I’d rather give those credits to a verified creator.
@@starfieldsignal Elianora is doing Hab sets. The current release is Crimson Fleet themed, but more are on the way. Worth a look, especially if you know her work.
They didn't say you have to BUY every quest. Maybe some will be free. Maybe all the rest will be free. Maybe every quest will be $7. Who knows. I certainly will not pay $7 per quest one at a time. And Iam a huge Starfield supporter. If they can't sell me on these, they are not selling the General Public, thats for sure.
@@starfieldsignal If the loot progression was more about small increments, rather than plopping everything in your lap, the game would have more meaning, and quest would be fun. If the quest didn't fly at you, and you had to search to find them in order to trigger them, then the game would be much more fun. The game just gives you everything, and it makes exploration dry and dull. The pampered babies had fun making a game on the consumers back, instead of making a fun game for the consumer. Their pay should be revoked honestly.
@@NicholasWilliams-uk9xuThose are certainly all words.
For seven dollars- it _should_ have been five hours long. I think three bucks wouldve been more reasonable. I would pay that...
finished the trackers mission and found it quite interesting. Neat twist at the end.
@@MouseReel If you do quest again in NG+ can you just arrest him in Akila City as you will know he is the guy you’re after this time?
Missed opportunity not using the brig hab on your ship too. As soon as I heard about the trackers alliance, I immediately thought, maybe we will have a use for the brig and possibly the infirmary. Hopefully in a future update, finger crossed!
I do hope there's some continuation to the starjacker mission, cause at the end of the day, we didn't catch the guy lmao
Yes! I wanna catch him! But he's a smart one, hiding behind proxies!
@@MrArchilusPart of his defense is the fact that no one knew he was using proxies. So I wonder how that would change his Modus Operandi if there is a continuation.
I remember my first DLC horse armor. I appreciate that you've kept such a cool head through the process. I'm just recently considering stepping back into my steam version for the creation kit and what the community can open up.
Random side note - When I tell my wife "Starfield, ya know, Skyrim in space", she goes, right, the one with Patrick Stweart. (Oblivion ✨)
It's really much closer to Oblivion in space :D Which is good, that's the better TES
I’m hoping the fee for the Vulture quest ends up being a one-time fee for the rest of the Tracker’s Alliance quest line. That being said, that new sniper rifle is my new favorite gun in the game and my new main weapon.
I love the coat. I was disappointed we didn't get the ranger coat during that Quest chain.
Paying $7 for 1 quest is outrageous. There will be at least one more Tracker Quest. Don't give BGS any money for the questline. Instead, wait for modders to create their own Trackers Alliance free quests.
Oh like modded quests are really good..... Bruh all modded quests in Skyrim sucked ass . .. id rater pay to play quests made by Bethesda
@@amitansurkar1769 There are amazing quests by modders at Fallout 4, namely the Enclave mod 'America Rising 2' that involves at least a dozen missions, new locations on the map, new weapons, armor, story line etc. I hope these guys can bring such quests to Starfield as well.
@@billmiros i mean ya, they are definitely coming
So instead of pay to win, It’s pay to play to finish the story. No thanks!
Asura's Wrath and Final Fantasy XIII-2 both locked their endings behind DLC. Make of that what you will.
DLC has never been free. Idk what world you live in dawg.
Uh, no. It is pay IF you want the 2nd Alliance mission. Nothing more, nothing less. It is a totally optional mission that you can choose to consume or not. I'm sure there will be more tracker alliance missions created by modders for free. You can also choose those or not.
It's not really a storyline. It's just independent missions.
Imagine if they did one that was like jack the ripper in space. Or perhaps an organized crime mob that you have to infiltrate.
Surely the star jacker guy will be seen again
Imagine infiltrating a Organized Crime Ring seeking to bag the Godfather... but Plot Twist: The reason the Authorities weren't succeeding at finding and identifying the Godfather was because... the Leader was actually a Godgranny! :P
I got to this video after looking up how to finish the quest line. I can't believe this is all you would get for a single quest... Mind blowingly bad for Bethesda.
Having heard Starfield doesn't intend to have surface vehicles in it; possibly they could adjust that to only having rentable mini-subs from an off-shore platform.
In case no one has mentioned it, your fallout 4 and starfield creation clubs are connected, if you had points in fo4, your amount will carry over to starfield. A nice thing to know if perhaps you had bought currency for the fo4 next gen update, just to find out that it was going to be a swansong for fo4 creations.
Bethesda kind of abandoned FO4 in 2019, and the modding community gave up on it sooner around 2018. The revival of interest in Fallout 4 thanks to the show, is kind of a miraculous rediscovery of what I think was the best Fallout game so far, and I know that is a very heretical statement given peoples love for NV or FO3 and even the first 2. I think what happened to Fallout 4 is in some ways what happened to Starfield. Those of us who loved it and played it, loved it and played it and stayed away from all the detractors and the stupid drama around it, those who hated it not only stopped playing the game, they made it a mission to take down Bethesda at all costs. Now all that said, I don't think that Bethesda are saints, and I could go on a list of things they could do better, but at the end of the day, I get something from their games I don't really get from other RPG's. So after all that said, I do agree with you that maybe for the creation's golden cow it is over, but support for FO4 has just been revived.
@@ViothonI think BGS are generally pretty good at supporting games long term. Supporting an SP game for 5 years is quite a lot.
And I agree with you with FO4. The story isn't as good as NV and 3, but it more than makes up for it by having super fun game mechanics and open world
Bro genuinely loves this shit. No hate here at all my man, bless up
I love Starfield despite all its flaws
Same, I will always love it and I want it to succeed, Hopefully with the creation kit and the expansion it will get the comeback it needs
Same
Right there with ya. It’s got flaws and it teases us big time with gameplay mechanics/features but I think this game will become what we all expect it to be in due time
Useful Brigs and Non Lethal Framework mods make the bounty system so much better
2:45ish... If the Enemies got new Weapon Types, they'd have to Drop those as Lewt, right? Then either those New Weapons suck and why were they even Coded in or they rock and we approach dangerously close to the line of "P2W"... slippery slope there...
10:30ish... Real cold Devs... real cold thing to do...
12:45ish... Lightning's my fav Element to beat stuff up with, but honestly EM Weapons like the Novablast Disrupter disappointed me... especially when they did NOT turn out to be able to direct damage Robots and Turrets like i'd swear I heard they would during Starfield's Pre-Release info. They need all the buffs to their usefulness they can get.
The Vulture Bounty seems to have loose ties to the Freestar Ranger quest chain. He seems to be a member of the 1st and terminals mentions he has friends on a Hopetech job.
I have generally avoided the Creation Club, except for the free Creations that auto-installed with Skyrim Anniversary Edition, and I didn't exactly go looking to complete the content from those, I just kind of took the quests as I happened across them. Am I correctly understanding that the first part of the Trackers Alliance questline will be auto-installed for free, but it's a hook to persuade me to pay for additional modules? I don't like that, and I might either try to ignore the questline or even find a way to remove the first module.
Not quite. The Trackers Alliance and first quest were patched directly into the base game. There is no module to uninstall. Ignore it if you must, but I expect Modders to release "unofficial and free" quests for it soon enough.
@@Starcat5 You mean the bait is all in Starfield.esm, rather than an auto-installed .esl file? Ick, that's even worse. I'm almost tempted to avoid going back to the game, but your suggestion of "unofficial and free" quests sounds good, or alternatively I could try to find (or make) a mod that disables the relevant quest giver(s).
I'm never gonna pay for additional quest, so as it stands the trackers alliance is not a player faction to me. It's just a NPC faction that you do 1 quest for and in exchange you get a bunch of loot without continuation. It's basically a secondary quest lol.
do i need a b pilot class to progress this? i cant get inside the computer of the first spaceship - starjacker
I really liked both trackers missions
I feel like the ancient mariner hab for 1000 credits is worse
I have mixed feelings about the first Tracker Alliance mission. The tutorial for using the scanner to locate a bounty was simple. I really enjoyed the space yard part of the mission as that is the only zero-G combat environment I have found except for the casino.
But the end result of the mission was ruined for me because the mission design didn't account for my crew. When we boarded the ship to go to the space yard, my constellation crew came to that ship. They were giving me the usual reports when we took off and grav jumped. When my advisor and I went into the space yard, I left behind Sarah, Barrett and Sam who are all heavily armed and armored combat experienced Constellation members. What the HELL were they doing between the time I left ship and when I boarded the junker ship?
I am trying to keep this spoiler free as possible, so I am hoping you understand why this bothers me so much.
I am annoyed with myself, but mostly from a hindsight perspective. I didn't talk to any of my Constellation companions while we were on either ship, so maybe I missed some conversation options related to the Tracker mission. I have 3 other characters saved who can join the Trackers Alliance, so when I do, I will pay closer attention to my crew and talk to them during the mission.
The paid one is much simpler. Go to existing cave then go to existing hotel. The quest is a thin layer over a gun and reskins. So if you think free one is not worth 700 credits that puts the paid one at much much lower value. It is sad as a dlc (not paid mod) that gave trackers the quality of other factions quests would have been great
I enjoyed both of them missions from the trackers alliance. I do think that seven dollars is a bit too expensive for it, but it's still pretty good.
I am not doing it. Not about to do an in-app purchase, and that is what it is, to finish the quest. That’s no different than browser games that try to get you to pay real money to get ahead. I will stick with Nexus.
I might buy the Vulture mission, but I don't plan to do so anytime soon.
Also, I hope they have set the first mission up with changes for NG+. With knowledge of how things went in the other universe, the ability to act on that knowledge should be built into the story.
I would’t buy it due to the price. The reason is tht i think DLC like far habor is only 15-20usd but it worths hours of gameplay. So a short quest tht last 10-20 mins for usd 7 is too much. Also I don’t want the developer to think tht they can make profit in this way.
10-20 mins? It's like an hour at least, but yeah your point stands.
I mean, even Shattered Space will probably be at least the size of Far Harbour and like 20-30 dolllars.
2 parts for this? part one is longer than it takes to do the mission lol
lol good point
@@starfieldsignal keep up the good work though, i have a dream this game will one day be good.
A full on bounty hunter expansion quest line would have been a take my money moment. I mean ive been in bobafett armor as soon as the mod was released and i have never taken it off… Instead they want me to shell out $10 per mediocre mission…
I spent my 1000 on the new ship modules and built my new ship around it. I'm waiting on this to find out if, once you have it, they include all future missions. If they charge for each mission, i don't want to support that kind of behavior.
I was also hoping some of the bounty hunters would be companions like we have seen in the past with bethesda guilds but yet again, solidly disappointed on the companions in this game.
What I’ve noticed already are some modders putting up content like a single follower for 10 bucks.
Don't worry... the market will eventually determine the price of mods. Just look at the Skyrim Creations marketplace. The market has already been determined on there... This starfield one is brand new and people are obviously just trying to cash in while they can. Once a mod author creates the same type of mod for free, this $10 one will become free as well. I would hold off on paying for any mods in starfield that are not Bethesda produced content. Again, the marketplace will even itself out in time. Mod authors, in general, want to keep their mods free because it's more of a fun hobby/past time rather than a means to make money.
@@CatDadGamer oh Im not worried, the team i am with is making a fill dlc sized mod for free lol. Our last one was Galac Tac Retribution and the Mercs and music expansion. Gunna do the sameish in starfield
I ignore the woman trying to get my attention I'm not paying to finish a quest thank you
Just talk to her once, and she gives you the location for the quest. Then you can ignore the quest but she won’t keep bothering you. 👍🏻
@@scubasteve2189 sweet ty 🤜🏻🤛🏻
You don't have to pay to finish the first quest, it is free. The second quest you have to pay for. They also have a mission board where you can choose several tracker missions for free, though it's pretty much the same as the other mission board quests.
It's two completely separate quests. They're only connected by them both being Tracker's Alliance bounties
@@MrArchilus ok that's like saying oh you got your first temple well pay $7 dollars for the next one, but hey it's ok they're only connected by the main plot
Is there a known glitch with getting the first bounty NPC to spawn? I've walked around with scanner activated for days and can't find Adrastos. I've found 8 other Red bounty NPCs, but not the guy you need to move the story forward.
I experienced something similar one time, and I ended up leaving the planet and landing again to reload the city. That worked for me but not sure of what the exact issue was.
Yep. I've left the plant, waited on Venas for hundreds of hours, un-installed/re-installed the game and no luck. Meanwhile, there are three NPCs that show Red for a bounty that I cant even engage with. Disappointing. @starfieldsignal
In my view, to take a quote from the game "You can have your very own white whale". I will not buy the Bethesda bounty mission to pricy. And this is the reason why the first mission had more going for it all around. I was on another channel and they did the 2nd (700) Bethesda mission. It is a shorter mission than the first and the rewards are a sniper refile and a couple skins. There was one problem you couldn't reload the sniper refile now before you start getting all upset. He wasn't sure whether this mod wasn't compatible with one of his other mods or not. I am hoping it only effected his game. The other moders mod's are better priced and you get far more. Like the boost pack (100) it is a must have in my view. To not get it is a mistake in my view.
Can't stop the Signal!
Personally, I think it's a cheapskate thing to do, to force people to pay $7 for a small mission-line.
No one is forcing anyone to do anything. Just like in regular business, this additional mission was outside of the original "purchase order" thus requires additional budgeting. To make up the difference, they are charging $7 in the short term for those people who want to purchase every single thing and dont have a care about money. It's obviously probably not worth that and in time the price will either come down, or be free. Not to mention, mod authors will most likely recreate their own versions and issue them as free creation mods.
@@CatDadGamerit sets a bad precedent.
I wouldn't spend the $7? to get it. It's a great jumping off point for modders, though. To add to your bringing in bounties idea, if the bounty is a big wig, their underlings could attempt a rescue where you get attacked and potentially boarded, which would explain why the one guy says just kill them.
You didnt cover the loot.. was the loot either along the way or as a reward at the end any better than normal missions? that could make it worthwhile maybe. I havnt played in months so i started a new game with the june update.. going to do a bunch of other quests to level up normally (without making frames like i did last time) for a while before i take on these new quests. I have the 1000 credits from the premium edition but i spent half on the mining one which looked ok, so i will need to buy more if i end up grabbing this second bounty quest. It all looks very expensive.
The loot includes a new set of spacesuit and a weapon (plasma cutter). Also a new currency called Astras to buy weapons from a Tracker Alliance vendor.
This is what happens when you have a game that probably cost well over $100 million to develop and put it on games pass. They claimed that over 6 million people have played Starfield, but how many actually paid for it especially after it's sketchy release. This should've already have been in the game on release easily. Had this been a full priced multiplatform game they probably wouldn't have to this. This inst console waring or anything. I own all current gen console and I paid full price for Starfield because I actually believed in it.
Calm down. If all DLC ever created was supposed to be in the "base game", then the base game itself would literally never be released. Having it be paid is fine as well. It's additional content that was outside of the budget, therefore needs to be applied to a new budget... that budget has to be paid for somehow. You can simply not purchase it. In fact, as a few have already stated, someone will eventually create a free mod that does the exact same thing as the paid mod. And in time, this will cause bethesda to drop the price or make it completely free. Just take a deep breath for now and pass on the new paid additions until the market corrects it.
This is why I have such a love/hate relationship with Bethesda. I love bounty hunting & knew my background on starfield was gon' be the Bounty Hunter. I removed the brig from my ship b/c it's absolutely just a cosmetic. Bethesda games 2 me no matter how good they are always seem incomplete until some modder comes in & completes their vision 4 certain mechanics. Thank Yah 4 modders.
They need a multiplayer. It's a separate game like Halo multi-player. Like ship battles. No one cares about land based fighting unless it's mechs..
Paying for a quest? No thanks. I already bought the premium edition so I can get everything. I'm not paying anything on top of that not even a single penny.
I really enjoyed this one
Am I the only one who can't find the very first bounty to even start the damn mission? Who ever thought 3 days stuck looking for one npc who doesn't spawn in
I found them waiting for me outside the lodge, I saw one person find them by going to the trackers headquarters in Akiila city.
I am a huge Starfield fanboy .. I have played the 2nd Alliance mission. Do i think it is worth $7. Well, it depends on what $7 means to you. If I go the starbucks and buy their largest coffee it is close to $7. Is the mission as good as a Starbucks coffee or a Big Mac meal at McDonalds? Sure.
Is it as much content as 10% the cost of Starfield. No.
So if you want to have a new mission and you have 700 creation credits available then play it. Would i go out of my way and purchase it? No. Is it anything special? No. Do I think it is WORTH $7. Sure. Would i personally have provided it for free instead if I were Bethesda? Yes 😊
Have they fixed the issue with the final gun u get with the extra payed mission? I have seen videos and ppl complaining that once u get the weapon reward from that payed mission u cant actually reload it even if u have ammo.
huh, that's weird. Haven't heard that, but I know there hasn't been any more updates or patches since the june update.
@@starfieldsignal Maybe they did a very small unplanned patch to solve that. I remember watching a guy buying a few of the payed mods just to look at the value of them and he made it very clear in the video that the tracking alliance weapon has bugged and he wasent the only 1 that hade that issue.
I'm commenting this on most people's concerns about the shortness of the mission. In the modders interview the modders themselves said they would be adding more content to the same mod. For example, just because its one mission right now doesn't mean the next mission could be another 7 dollars separately. It probably will be added to the same mod. Just like it says in the description for the mining conglomerate mod and the outpost luxury homes mods. They both specify that they will keep adding content to the same mod. Guys. Have faith.
Thanks for this info
😂 Modders didn't make this mission, Bethesda did...
😎 It would be cool
To play like the Mandalorian!
"I can bring you in hot or cold".
But NO pay to play...
There is a free mod to suit up as the Mandalorian! Its the coolest way to play Tracker Alliance missions!
@billmiros Awesome, I'll have to check it out! Thanks 👍
I was very disappointed. It had some nice touches but was too short and ultimately unfulfilling.
I do like the TA and the NPCs there and I think it has potential. Def longer missions or hopefully modders can populate the system with their own bounty quests in the future.
Thanks for the review. I will still give it a wait and see but I was expecting or hoping for a bit more. I still like to play Starfield here and there. Hopefully it will come around and if Shattered Space is as good as it appears to be then that will help. Thanks for the review. I hope they build on this because if they don't it will be a huge miss. I personally could do chained bounty missions for hours on end.
I think they will add more to this mod. Its probably bc of how hard it is supposedly to mod starfield
The creation kit and the script extender weren't available until this update, Starfield won't be any harder to mod than other Bethesda games
For 'free' I thought the first mission was very good. The new location was very cool, and the story actually had some thought put into it, which let's be honest, is rare with the 'Keep it Simple Stupid (an Emil quote)' mentality of BGS. So all's good. I personally liked the ending, again simply because I wasn't expecting that, and I do think we may see this person in a future mission (though they did say they were going to disappear and retire ... we'll see). I did play the second mission, which I'll just say wasn't nearly as good and not worth paying for. So I do not recommend it.
@Starfield Signal wish you could just make your own mod for us to play :(
Its this kinda thing that is really pushing me away from bethesda games in general. We're sitting here waiting untill like september for mod tools. (Maybe , has the potential to be delayed with Shattered Space on the Horizon.) But they are waisting development resources on a half baked idea that would have been genuinely interesting if some thought had been put in it. But realisitically only exposes how limited this game is in a grand sense. As it stands most of the habs on your ship really have no real utility. As you said this would have been a great way to utalize the brigs in a more organic mannor. But instead we get a mission that realisitcally just says "hey buy our piecemeal DLCs that are likely going to be way more then they are worth. Or forgo any resolution to this story". There just seems to be this trend of bethesda wanting to nickel and dime every little thing, despite not really showing any desire to put time into making it worth the asking price. This is especially egregious when you've had modders doing this for years , for free or at the very least on no where near the budget most professional modders have to contend with. I really want to like this game and especially wanted this to be good. But even after all the good will they garnered with the last Update. Bethesda has managed to kinda drop the ball again.
The "mod tools" were released in this update. It's called the Creation Kit. The Creations marketplace is where you will download your mods. It's all in the same marketplace now. What BGS does very well is create a base to build onto. Mod authors will use these features to build free mods on top of that you will be able to enjoy. Use skyrim for example and the Hearthfire DLC and all of the free mods that came from that. There was definitely a lot more BGS could have done, but because of budget reasons, they stick to creating a base model for passionate gamers to build onto.
So, Bethesda wants us to pay 1/10th of the price of mod/dlc(?) of a not very good game? And it's only a few hours long? No thank you.
Curious about this, worth playing now or waiting for the dlc is what I am wondering.
Other than ship interior design, there's nothing gameplay wise that is really new. It's more polished and feels more stable, but Shattered Space would be a great time to start up again.
The game difficulty settings and survival-ish mechanics are pretty awesome. Finally makes food and all those affliction healing items useful.
IMO iit’s definitely not worth it
So typical of Starfield, almost there but they just stop and dont do the thing that would take it from ho hum average to great. Still my best 5/10 game but with a little more effort they could easily get it to an 8 for me. It is very unlikely that I will spend my money on this.
Is shattered space going to be included with game pass?
No, it’s included in the premium edition that you can buy as an upgrade from the game pass version. It includes 1000 creation credits, shattered space, and hopefully some more stuff in the future! I would personally hold off on buying it until the DLC drops and see if it’s any good though.
Well a google search says that yes it will be on gamepass.
@@Chris-yv2iv the version included with game pass is the standard edition, and shattered space is a paid dlc.
Lol they put brigs in the game at launch, they do nothing. They add bounty hunting dlc features bring them in alive. . . Just not in your brig. Whoever is driving the Bethesda ship is drunk at the wheel.
More monster hunting mods..
I'm not going to purchase the $7 mission. But I'm also not going to bash the price tag. Reading through the comments you will see a lot of unreasonable opinions that have no idea how game development, or business, works in general. This is most likely just immaturity from young gamers that haven't experienced real world economics. That said, you have 2 options. Either spend your money to play a mission right now, that is most likely not worth the money... or don't. The price tag is simply supply/demand. If you don't know what that means, then youtube a video about it for a crash course. Honestly, you should hold off on purchasing any creations(mods) that become available over the next few weeks until the market stabilizes and honest mod authors are able to release quality content for free. Just take a deep breath and enjoy what's available for free and wait patiently for more to come.
Preatty much you say "Bethesda" then flush your toilet!
It will be more eventually, just got to pay more dollars to Todd to get more quests. What a laughingstock of garbage Starfield has become.
The only saving grace is it's free if you haven't used the free credits up
I don’t get upset about gaming. 😂
one of the thousand missed opportunities by Bethesda to make a coherent game...
Just give up on this game buddy, its unfortunate how boring. It really is a great game 10 years ago but its just not a modern standard game. I was so hyped for it too.
What this game doesn’t need is paid content when the base game is a bland moldy turd.
I’ve been addicted to BGS since Fallout 3. This is by far the least played game they’ve released in over a decade, and yet it’s the most polished they’ve ever created. Just goes to show how bad the base game is, when the community would rather play their older broken games.
Bethesda suck I'm not paying them nothing for stuff should be in the game
Lame…glad I didn’t waste my time or money.
the problem with starfield is that the main issues with the game are just unfixable - the flow of the game is way off
I’d rather save my credits to get farts in a jar 🫙💨👃🏻 😫