@@nicholasbrown4923i use to have p1606 along with u1003 I replaced my vvel module and did a idle relearn and both codes have never came back do you only have the u1003 code ?
Are you able to show me and example of what a motor runs like before doing this procedure? I replaced my heads due to bent valves and now the idle is really rough and I’m getting 1089 & 1090.
I don't think so...but it will do that, stumble, misfire on 3 cylinder...if u had the head machined, and haven't synchronized the vvel motor with the control shaft, u will have this issue
@@sethjoyner391 do you got any idea how much this would cost to fix at dealership(Nobody near me knows about fixing this issue). Say if I had to have someone take the timing covers off and sync the control shaft and VVEL motor, how much do you think it’d be?
@@Stockclipz the job itself isn't that bad...it would take me about 4 hours from pulling the manifold and vc's to resetting the vvel...problem is...95% of dealer techs don't know this because it explicitly states not to remove the vvel motor from the control cam in the fsm...best bet is a reputable import (nissan based) shop near you and tell them the issue and show them my video
@@sethjoyner391 great thank you so much for your valuable information, we gotta protect you🫶🏽🥹, but I need to save up for the cost of this so I’ll just look for Nissan based shops near me meanwhile. Thank you honestly
I’ve done all these steps, get B1 and B2 to read 0.5V. As soon as start cranking car, it doesn’t start and goes back to 0.8V. VVEL sensor learned shows 0.8V all the time. Is there a way to make ECU to learn it again?
After u initially set the sensor values and do your last key cycle and fire up...the values will now change to similar values that u have....is the car running right?
I have a motor that I've swapped in a car and I'm currently trying to tune it with Uprev but its throwing these particular codes; p1087, 1088, 1090. Do I need to reset the VVEL using this procedure or is there something that I'm missing?
@@sethjoyner391 Where exactly do the value have to be? I've noticed that both banks move in increments of 5 while rotating the VVEL position sensor. For example I was getting .494, .499, .504, .509 and etc... I've put both of them at .504 volts and go through the reset procedure but the alarm will come back. If I reset it and keep the rpm above 3000 rpm on startup, it seems to rev out but only on bank 2.
hey man i got p1606 then a u1003 can communication error code, there’s little to no info on how to fix this im thinking my vvel is out of position like explained in the video but i don’t get the codes people are talking about, anything helps thanks 2011 infinit g37x coupe 58k miles, bought it at 38k miles has had the problem since
@patrickaubuchon8025 i had a lot of porting my early days...there are a few minor things that could be done to get more speed and volume with a NA stroker setup
I’ve got a P1606 and I’ve changed the vvel control module due to it having a rough start and going on limp mode and not getting the RPMS, resetting it like so would help that code go away?
do i need to have it tuned to be able to use ecutek? or can i also look at the vvel range through live data with a scanner? vehicle got check engine light as i was driving and went on limp more with no throttle response. code is p1090
You can definitely diag and observe vvel with any quality scan tool....ecutek just helps me with the reset procedure I use (my job uses ecutek in general)
Hey bro i have p1092 and where my car is no one around is good with these cars because it’s in the Caribbean should i try to do this fix with your video?
@@sethjoyner391 code p0500, p0780,u0101 that says permanent on my code reader . I ordered new oem valve body for my vin from dealer . New oem fluid (Matic s) and before my issues were not shifting passed 3rd . Hard shifts and the manual mode wasn’t working . Now my manual mode works and shifting is smooth but once it hits 4th gear it just revs up like it’s in neutral . Then goes back to 3rd fine . Took to dealer they didn’t find anything wrong and no codes . They said they will probably warranty the part cause the tech said it feels like it’s the valve body . Also a abs code just popped up c1131. But I’m still showing same codes (permanent) .
So watching your vids what if I just replacing head gaskets . Take old motors and sensors off marking the sensors exact location would I still have problems? And I would of course check voltage .
The only problem is that the motors are connected to the control cam and the tower system...to do that job right it would all have to come apart and vvel would have to be mechanically phased again...you blew ur headgaskets?...you'll also need to take the heads to the machine shop to be checked for deck straightness...unless your blowing coolant in a leakdown id avoid headgaskets...tell me more about what your trying to do
Even scribing the stepper motor location on the control cam doesn't seem to work that well...I've done it that way as well and always went back to the way I did it in my earlier videos
@@sethjoyner391 I was just trying to do preventative maintenance since I have the motor out . Change all the gaskets and seals . I was buying the complete gasket set and since they came with the head gaskets I was gonna change them . I just bought the car and to be honest I did not run it long enough to really see if head gaskets where blown .but I didn’t have any coolant in oil or no oil in reservoir . I guess I can do a leak down test . I’m mechanically inclined . I’ve done plenty of motors just not these types of motors lol usually jeep or dodge or gm motors mainly . Even the eco boost motor I’ve worked on . I just have a habit of fixing things that are not broke 😂 I understand what your saying I have a machine shop at work I’d check the heads for flatness I’d probably even change valve seals and check the seats and lap if necessary. I’m just being extra . That’s why I wanna change them . I know it sounds silly .
@@colt2540 yea, you may be opening up a big can of worms....the headgaskets aren't really a maintenance item...they're mls not graphite or anything like that...I'd do that leakdown with wet cylinders, and go from there
@@sethjoyner391 sweet thanks buddy just didn’t wanna kick myself in the butt and not change them and then they end up being bad . 😂 I bought the car for cheap with a slow leak from the water pump . Thanks for your help !! Also If I did do the heads what scan tool or software I need to read the voltage rate ?
@@kikimejia7787 did you ever get it figured out? Have changed vvel control module and just did vvt solenoid actuator but still getting thrown into limp mode
My car ran good until I was leaving the store and rpm wouldn’t pass 1200rpm and I got code p1090 and p1093. I let my car sit for 15min and turned it back on and it ran like nothing ever happened. Can I Just replace the actuator motor bank 1 and 2 and do I have to relearn them or do any certain steps ?
Hmm....rare codes...I would investigate the vvel control module first, located in the fuse box bracketry after pulling the battery out....I would suspect a problem there first since it's both banks..there is a fsm testing procedure for this...imo vvel motors rarely fail
@420sniper8 myeaaa...they're going to be zero help.....we'll need to know the symptoms and current codes..what year and car?...vvel control modules can go bad, however vtc system is more of a system of components integration into the valvetrain
So what symptoms does this cause when the VVEL is out of reference ranges I’ve been trying to tackle an idle issue (shifting into neutral rpms rapidly to 575 bounces up immediately to 750 then down to 650 normal) I’ve done quite a bit in trying to determine the issue. I checked my VVEL position sensor is 0.84 V and 0.78 V and my VVEL time is 7.18 and 7.21 degrees
@@sethjoyner391 only thing I’ve done is disconnect the sensor from VVEL and did the valve cover gaskets and tube well gaskets. Previous owner did not to my knowledge
@@Us3r_404 I guess tell me more...mods, year, mileage....also, it's not uncommon to have a differential in the vvel values from Bank to bank..other than the rpm fluctuations...any codes, vacuum leaks
@@sethjoyner391 2008 g37 sport manual trans 99k miles only mods is a motordyne cat back. I pre ordered a test but not on car yet. Other than that it is stock. No codes no leaks to my knowledge I’ve checked. I had a guy do my gallery gaskets he didn’t see anything unusual.
Dealership installed a new OEM flexplate with all the pins and got the car to start. The problem is when it turns on it’s still in limp mode and keeps throwing the same codes. P1088 - VVEL System B2 P1093 - VVEL Actuator Motor B2 P0335 - Crankshaft Position Sensor/Circuit They dealership is now telling me they can not further diagnose it without flashing my car back to stock and even then there’s only a 10% chance of “it” working. I’m already $3200 into it and NOT about to have them flash it back to stock. Anyone know why this is happening or had experience with this before? TIA
I'm getting P0024 after infiniti installed a replacement flywheel/ signal plate due to broken signal teeth from a rebuild that mechs sloppy install on my M56S. I believe this mech didnt position wooden block per fsm to avoid contact with VVEL when reinstalling trans and it rotated the sensor. Who's manufacturing the sensor itself? I've looked everywhere- ConceptZ hitachi etc..
Bro! You seem to really know these motors! Where are you located? I have an 1606 vvel code and it went into limp mode 1500rpms. Shut it off and started back up fine with the service engine light on. It has 1606 and 1024 as permanent codes. If you’re close I’ll bring it to you to fix
@co10boy u need to look at live data, and you want to send me a video of all of the vvel and vtc parameters...a lot of the earlier cars had vvel module failures (located behind the fuse box, behind the battery)
Hey I took my car to the dealer to install a new vvel assembly. My car is showing P1090. They said they weren’t able to adjust the sensor and it was reading over 700mv. Do u know why the sensor would be able to adjust? Any way I can message u for further detail?
Basically, because it seems they're unfamiliar with the system...sounds like they are unaware of the 5.5 degree preset inclination of the control cam to mechanically phase it with the stepper motor...because it's mechanically out of time, they weren't able to get the sensor in range...Basically, it needs to come back apart, valve cover off, rear vvel cap off and an adjustment made at the Allen screws that connect the stepper motor to the intake control cam
They said they weren’t able to use the consult tool to perform the idle air learned procedure to move onto the next step. Which he needs in order to adjust the sensor to 0.5V. But he was saying both sensor were reading wrong. But when I used my ECUTEK Bluetooth dongle the drivers side was reading 0.54V and the drivers 4.5V So they would have to make sure it’s 120 degrees, from top dead centre. Lock the passenger side cam, adjust the stepper motor to 1.585inches, lock down the cam Allen key bolts, and then reinstall the valve cover? After that adjust the sensor to 0.5V?
@@bogdankopec5785 u got it verbatim....literally no nissan masters I've ever talked to have known this...so don't feel too bad...it would be a weird system for them to intimately know+ plus it says never to do any of the stuff we're doing in the fsm😅
Hey i was wondering If you are able to show an example of how to do this with a multimeter? Im currently getting p1092
Have you solved this issue ?
@@kikimejia7787 nope, I still have p1092, I might just have to take it to dealer since there are no nissan/infiniti special shops near me
You got it fixed?
question, if i change the 2 cam shaft sensors located on the vvel would i have to reset it?
the vvt solenoid sensor
I’m dealing with a u1003 code car won’t connect to vvel module , won’t rev over 1500 rpm
Same here , been tryin to figure out wats going on either a wiring problem r the vvel module , some say checc fuse n relays
@@nicholasbrown4923i use to have p1606 along with u1003 I replaced my vvel module and did a idle relearn and both codes have never came back do you only have the u1003 code ?
any idea?
Are you able to show me and example of what a motor runs like before doing this procedure?
I replaced my heads due to bent valves and now the idle is really rough and I’m getting 1089 & 1090.
I don't think so...but it will do that, stumble, misfire on 3 cylinder...if u had the head machined, and haven't synchronized the vvel motor with the control shaft, u will have this issue
@@sethjoyner391 do you got any idea how much this would cost to fix at dealership(Nobody near me knows about fixing this issue). Say if I had to have someone take the timing covers off and sync the control shaft and VVEL motor, how much do you think it’d be?
@@Stockclipz the job itself isn't that bad...it would take me about 4 hours from pulling the manifold and vc's to resetting the vvel...problem is...95% of dealer techs don't know this because it explicitly states not to remove the vvel motor from the control cam in the fsm...best bet is a reputable import (nissan based) shop near you and tell them the issue and show them my video
@@sethjoyner391 great thank you so much for your valuable information, we gotta protect you🫶🏽🥹, but I need to save up for the cost of this so I’ll just look for Nissan based shops near me meanwhile. Thank you honestly
No problem, just doing my part in the community
Would a autel 808 scanner be able to do this
I’ve done all these steps, get B1 and B2 to read 0.5V. As soon as start cranking car, it doesn’t start and goes back to 0.8V. VVEL sensor learned shows 0.8V all the time. Is there a way to make ECU to learn it again?
After u initially set the sensor values and do your last key cycle and fire up...the values will now change to similar values that u have....is the car running right?
Im thinking u did it right
I have a motor that I've swapped in a car and I'm currently trying to tune it with Uprev but its throwing these particular codes; p1087, 1088, 1090. Do I need to reset the VVEL using this procedure or is there something that I'm missing?
Yea. For a swap you'll need to reset vvel sensors more than likely
@@sethjoyner391 Where exactly do the value have to be? I've noticed that both banks move in increments of 5 while rotating the VVEL position sensor. For example I was getting .494, .499, .504, .509 and etc... I've put both of them at .504 volts and go through the reset procedure but the alarm will come back. If I reset it and keep the rpm above 3000 rpm on startup, it seems to rev out but only on bank 2.
hey man i got p1606 then a u1003 can communication error code, there’s little to no info on how to fix this im thinking my vvel is out of position like explained in the video but i don’t get the codes people are talking about, anything helps thanks 2011 infinit g37x coupe 58k miles, bought it at 38k miles has had the problem since
How did you fix it since it’s been 4 months ago and doubt you have the issue still I need help
figure it out?
Loving these videos dude omg
Are you performing any head work with the vhr. Or are they reassembled in stock form ?
@patrickaubuchon8025 i had a lot of porting my early days...there are a few minor things that could be done to get more speed and volume with a NA stroker setup
If I just disconnected one of the sensor instead of just both; does that cancel out the whole procedure?
I’ve got a P1606 and I’ve changed the vvel control module due to it having a rough start and going on limp mode and not getting the RPMS, resetting it like so would help that code go away?
What did you do to fix my car is giving the same code and goes into limp mode please help
Did you ever figure out this issue?
Fixed it? 😊
@@IceManJhey did you ever fix it?
do i need to have it tuned to be able to use ecutek? or can i also look at the vvel range through live data with a scanner?
vehicle got check engine light as i was driving and went on limp more with no throttle response. code is p1090
You can definitely diag and observe vvel with any quality scan tool....ecutek just helps me with the reset procedure I use (my job uses ecutek in general)
@@sethjoyner391 perfect, thanks for the vids, they’re very helpful
Hey bro i have p1092 and where my car is no one around is good with these cars because it’s in the Caribbean should i try to do this fix with your video?
Is your car stock or modified?
Same problem after installing long tube CAI. P1092 out of the blue. Everything else if stock.@@sethjoyner391
Know anything about transmissions on the g37’s I’d love to pick your brain . I’m completely stuck even dealer can’t figure it out 😢
What year car and what's the issue/ what's it doing?
@@sethjoyner391 code p0500, p0780,u0101 that says permanent on my code reader . I ordered new oem valve body for my vin from dealer . New oem fluid (Matic s) and before my issues were not shifting passed 3rd . Hard shifts and the manual mode wasn’t working . Now my manual mode works and shifting is smooth but once it hits 4th gear it just revs up like it’s in neutral . Then goes back to 3rd fine . Took to dealer they didn’t find anything wrong and no codes . They said they will probably warranty the part cause the tech said it feels like it’s the valve body . Also a abs code just popped up c1131. But I’m still showing same codes (permanent) .
Hey boss I got a p1024 got any idea what it might be
So watching your vids what if I just replacing head gaskets . Take old motors and sensors off marking the sensors exact location would I still have problems? And I would of course check voltage .
The only problem is that the motors are connected to the control cam and the tower system...to do that job right it would all have to come apart and vvel would have to be mechanically phased again...you blew ur headgaskets?...you'll also need to take the heads to the machine shop to be checked for deck straightness...unless your blowing coolant in a leakdown id avoid headgaskets...tell me more about what your trying to do
Even scribing the stepper motor location on the control cam doesn't seem to work that well...I've done it that way as well and always went back to the way I did it in my earlier videos
@@sethjoyner391 I was just trying to do preventative maintenance since I have the motor out . Change all the gaskets and seals . I was buying the complete gasket set and since they came with the head gaskets I was gonna change them . I just bought the car and to be honest I did not run it long enough to really see if head gaskets where blown .but I didn’t have any coolant in oil or no oil in reservoir . I guess I can do a leak down test . I’m mechanically inclined . I’ve done plenty of motors just not these types of motors lol usually jeep or dodge or gm motors mainly . Even the eco boost motor I’ve worked on . I just have a habit of fixing things that are not broke 😂 I understand what your saying I have a machine shop at work I’d check the heads for flatness I’d probably even change valve seals and check the seats and lap if necessary. I’m just being extra . That’s why I wanna change them . I know it sounds silly .
@@colt2540 yea, you may be opening up a big can of worms....the headgaskets aren't really a maintenance item...they're mls not graphite or anything like that...I'd do that leakdown with wet cylinders, and go from there
@@sethjoyner391 sweet thanks buddy just didn’t wanna kick myself in the butt and not change them and then they end up being bad . 😂 I bought the car for cheap with a slow leak from the water pump . Thanks for your help !! Also If I did do the heads what scan tool or software I need to read the voltage rate ?
Anybody know what can be causing p1092 code ?
VVEL control shaft position sensor, VVEL control module defective, loose harness or connectors etc...
@@top-notch9761 changed sensor and vvel control module and still putting me in limp mode and doesn’t let me rev past 1rmp
@@kikimejia7787 did you ever get it figured out? Have changed vvel control module and just did vvt solenoid actuator but still getting thrown into limp mode
My car ran good until I was leaving the store and rpm wouldn’t pass 1200rpm and I got code p1090 and p1093. I let my car sit for 15min and turned it back on and it ran like nothing ever happened. Can I Just replace the actuator motor bank 1 and 2 and do I have to relearn them or do any certain steps ?
Hmm....rare codes...I would investigate the vvel control module first, located in the fuse box bracketry after pulling the battery out....I would suspect a problem there first since it's both banks..there is a fsm testing procedure for this...imo vvel motors rarely fail
Anyone know what’s causing a P1606 code? I’ve replaced the VVEL control module and the CAM sensors. Not working.
What was your initial problem? Built engine or cams?
@420sniper8 myeaaa...they're going to be zero help.....we'll need to know the symptoms and current codes..what year and car?...vvel control modules can go bad, however vtc system is more of a system of components integration into the valvetrain
bro please reply😂 did you ever get the fix for p1606 there’s no info out in the internet
@cavz2158 did you ever fix the p1606 code?!😢
Got a homie going through the same thing any fix?
So what symptoms does this cause when the VVEL is out of reference ranges I’ve been trying to tackle an idle issue (shifting into neutral rpms rapidly to 575 bounces up immediately to 750 then down to 650 normal) I’ve done quite a bit in trying to determine the issue.
I checked my VVEL position sensor is 0.84 V and 0.78 V and my VVEL time is 7.18 and 7.21 degrees
I’ve done TB cleaning valve cover gaskets and tube well gaskets gallery gaskets water pump timing chain timing tensor MAF cleaned the idle relearns
Did you ever have your cam towers removed or disconnect the vvel motor from it's control cam?
@@sethjoyner391 only thing I’ve done is disconnect the sensor from VVEL and did the valve cover gaskets and tube well gaskets. Previous owner did not to my knowledge
@@Us3r_404 I guess tell me more...mods, year, mileage....also, it's not uncommon to have a differential in the vvel values from Bank to bank..other than the rpm fluctuations...any codes, vacuum leaks
@@sethjoyner391 2008 g37 sport manual trans 99k miles only mods is a motordyne cat back. I pre ordered a test but not on car yet. Other than that it is stock. No codes no leaks to my knowledge I’ve checked. I had a guy do my gallery gaskets he didn’t see anything unusual.
Is there anyway I could call you
Probably on the weekend, give me an idea of what you're dealing with first
Dealership installed a new OEM flexplate with all the pins and got the car to start.
The problem is when it turns on it’s still in limp mode and keeps throwing the same codes.
P1088 - VVEL System B2
P1093 - VVEL Actuator Motor B2
P0335 - Crankshaft Position Sensor/Circuit
They dealership is now telling me they can not further diagnose it without flashing my car back to stock and even then there’s only a 10% chance of “it” working. I’m already $3200 into it and NOT about to have them flash it back to stock. Anyone know why this is happening or had experience with this before? TIA
I'm getting P0024 after infiniti installed a replacement flywheel/ signal plate due to broken signal teeth from a rebuild that mechs sloppy install on my M56S. I believe this mech didnt position wooden block per fsm to avoid contact with VVEL when reinstalling trans and it rotated the sensor. Who's manufacturing the sensor itself? I've looked everywhere- ConceptZ hitachi etc..
Bro! You seem to really know these motors! Where are you located? I have an 1606 vvel code and it went into limp mode 1500rpms. Shut it off and started back up fine with the service engine light on. It has 1606 and 1024 as permanent codes. If you’re close I’ll bring it to you to fix
@co10boy what year, model, miles, mods etc?
2010 370z base model. 90,000 miles, Manual transmission, bone stock!
@co10boy u need to look at live data, and you want to send me a video of all of the vvel and vtc parameters...a lot of the earlier cars had vvel module failures (located behind the fuse box, behind the battery)
Hey I took my car to the dealer to install a new vvel assembly. My car is showing P1090. They said they weren’t able to adjust the sensor and it was reading over 700mv. Do u know why the sensor would be able to adjust? Any way I can message u for further detail?
Basically, because it seems they're unfamiliar with the system...sounds like they are unaware of the 5.5 degree preset inclination of the control cam to mechanically phase it with the stepper motor...because it's mechanically out of time, they weren't able to get the sensor in range...Basically, it needs to come back apart, valve cover off, rear vvel cap off and an adjustment made at the Allen screws that connect the stepper motor to the intake control cam
I also made a video about this on my channel and I demonstrate any easy way to do this
They said they weren’t able to use the consult tool to perform the idle air learned procedure to move onto the next step. Which he needs in order to adjust the sensor to 0.5V. But he was saying both sensor were reading wrong. But when I used my ECUTEK Bluetooth dongle the drivers side was reading 0.54V and the drivers 4.5V
So they would have to make sure it’s 120 degrees, from top dead centre. Lock the passenger side cam, adjust the stepper motor to 1.585inches, lock down the cam Allen key bolts, and then reinstall the valve cover? After that adjust the sensor to 0.5V?
@@bogdankopec5785 u got it verbatim....literally no nissan masters I've ever talked to have known this...so don't feel too bad...it would be a weird system for them to intimately know+ plus it says never to do any of the stuff we're doing in the fsm😅
@@bogdankopec5785 I swear, u should make that a sticky somewhere