I m from Pakistan , very wonderfull video ,Sir based on facts n truth. In my opinion Transformer based invertor definatly waste some energy ,but they last long ,further more transformer less invertor also waste energy at standby position ,which is same as equal as transformer based .
Life is so easy when something is explained is sort and simple terms.. really appreciate your helpful explanations on this topic.. you made my day, now the choice is mine to make.. I salute you sir 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
I disagree with the second points. There are transformer inverters with that equal have inbuilt charge controller in it. And for the transformerless, the charge contoller can still with when the invertong section is fault as far as the inverter power section is still functioning
can you explain the difference and pro and cons between real low frequency square transformer inverter and hybrid frequency toroidal technology like victron? victron say this technology have both low frequency and high frequency pros. but sure dont have 3 times surge power I see, thank you
I came across your video today when I was researching how bonding inverter neutral to earth works. I have the axpert type transformerless hybrid inverter. To be able for the earrh leakage to work, inverter output neutral should be bonded to earth but I do not know if my inverter outout will be damaged. In my opinion one of the output mosfet banks will be shorted to earth in the process. Your thoughts on the matter will be appreciated.
Great video fella, done all the tiny tears ones, but its only the heavy low voltage that cut it without a moan, and I’ve gone through a couple of good but mosfet driven machines, which all said were capable under load……hong Kong Fuji I’m afraid, Heavy rules if you power big things✌️
Your videos are very insightful. I usually watch your videos and American Will Prowse videos. I watched your video on batteries and decided to go for a lithium battery against what most installers were suggesting. I watched this video and decided to go for Hybrid Inverter. But shockingly and sadly it lasted for only three months, it was installed by a professional installer in July, and it stopped working on October 11, 2024. It just went off suddenly and since then refused to come up if you switch it on. I have come to watch this video again to see if there is anything I missed. It was a 6.2kva hybrid inverter, it never displayed any fault code. The only sign was one day, two weeks before malfunctioning, my wife complained she heard a strange noise from the inverter as if something was sparking inside. I listened and observed subsequent days, but never heard it. I don't know whether I did any wrong , I usually switch it off whenever when the grid power ( NEPA Light) is available or come on if the battery is fully charged. I heard you say frequent fluctuations can lead to damage. Is an inverter supposed to be permanently on once installed? what could make a hybrid inverter go bad so early? One person said load, but I have never given a load more than 15% of its capacity of 6.2kva. The highest load is when I put on water pumping machine which has a load 900w. Most times I switch off other appliances when pumping water. I never used AC on it. My questions to this community are 1) What are the things that could make a get bad so quickly. 2) are inverters supposed to be permanently on 3) is it advisable to use an external charge controller with hybrid inverter because am suspecting whether the charge coming from the 700w bifacial solar panels is too much for the inverter to handle. 4) which brand from experience of others are durable- there are just too many products or brands out there.
Am a solar installer, I have used Transformer base Inverter and now switch to Transformerless inverter. Hybrid Inverter seems better especially if it's high voltage. But what I noticed on both and I wish people take it serious is you connecting your system to the grid. It does damage quickly than when you rely only on Solar Panels. I used my transformer base Inverter for 5 years without PHCN and Generator and I didn't have any issues. My current system which is Hybrid Inverter is not connected to Generator or PHCN but only Solar panel
The problem is the surge not the charger controller or solar panel.. Like I said early on my post if you connect your system to Grid or Generator you will always face the issue of fault on your system especially if it's transformerless Inverter... I can tell you that my system is 4.2kva Hybrid and powered my pumping machine with chess freezer at the same time but what I noticed was it will make the system unstable as at that moment.. Before it stable. Check the Wattage intake of the system. Check the Voltage coming in if there is full sun. Disconnect the system from Grid and Generator and only rely on Solar Panel If there is still space for your system to take more solar panel don't estimate to add more. Currently am using 300W BY 6= 1800W Input Wattage of the system is 6200W But mind you that whatever you do don't complete the full input at least give space of 400w this depend on the type of Solar Panel used I mean brand.
@simlo1108 Again thanks so much for your input. I am just curious,Why did you switch to hybrid after 5 years of no trouble with transformer based inverter? I am not an installer, so I am not experienced as you are but following my mishap, I have concluded (whether rightly or wrongly I don't know) that transformer based inverters are better from watching many many videos and reading reviews. It appears though technology is moving towards hybrid as most manufacturers seem to be making more of hybrid inverters. I don't whether it's because it cheaper and the more people buy the better for chinese manufacturers irrespective of whether it is durable or not since there is no consumer protection agencies to protect costumers especially here in Africa or Nigeria.. I have decided to buy a transformer based inverter but don't know the good ones out there. A lot of people scream felicity but being a Chinese company I am a bit skeptical. So your post about hybrid inverters being better is really interesting and making me wonder if I am actually wrong about my conclusion about inverters. Could it be I just had a bad experience based on the brand I bought ( Wellion) which I will NEVER RECOMMEND to any person. For me that brand is a devil's trap for so many reasons. Again , why did you switch ?
Inverters generally have a lot of buzzing sounds that indicate different things , from low battery to high voltage detecttion., error sounds and overload sounds , so its difficult to say which is applicable to you.
Nice video sir, one this to note is that they both use Transformer, the difference is that one uses iron core Transformer and the Orther uses high frequency Transformer which is generally much more smaller.
Wonderful review. I’m planning on getting an inverter and I have two options before me, a transformer based hybrid inverter and a non hybrid transformer inverter with external charge controller. Apart from cost implications, which of the setup will have more advantages over the other?
In Pakistan the prices of transformer less inverters are so high but transformer based ups or inverter prices are not much high. For now I am buying a T. Less inverter but I will make a T. Based inverter by myself. Can you tell me how much power is lost by T. Based inverter?
I bought the 2 transformer and non transformer I will install one in my Vilage and one in my abuja house. Installed already. From my experiment here I think transformer based is better with my external MPPT low noise and durable while the Transformer based is full of heat and noise. Hybrid is useless to me..
The charge controller and the inverter has a provsion on the body surface where you can connect your earthing wire and bond it with the existing earthing facilty in the house. If there is none in the house you will need to provide it. An earthing copper rod is usually inserseted in the ground.
Currently low frequency inverter that uses toroidal transformers are more efficient than transformerless inverter examples are yohako inverters and victron inverter,and not all transformerless inverters has a built in mppt,the main difference to me between the transformer and non transformerless inverters are the applications
Hello William we are are all saying the same thing I made it very clear in the video that high frequency inverter as a self device is more energy efficient, however it doesn’t operate well with high-surge loads like pumps and high-torque tools.
@@smilinsunsmilinsun8056 low frequency inverters handles surges well, you mean high-frequency inverters,what i was saying in my earlier reply was there are low frequency inverter with the same idle consumption as high frequency inverter there by throwing away the point of one is more efficient than the other
@@odeywilliams7596 I meant high frequency not low frequency but in all retrospect high frequency inverter is still more energy efficient than a low frequency inverter.
@@smilinsunsmilinsun8056 research on low frequency inverters that uses toroidal transformers and see why they are as energy efficient if not more than high frequency inverters,youll also know why victron inverters uses it everybod learns something new everyday
Its ok to say real inverters LF, vs, Bullshit inverters HF, only peoples who gets there little feelings hurt have either wasted there money already, or there never gonna accept the truth
I m from Pakistan , very wonderfull video ,Sir based on facts n truth. In my opinion Transformer based invertor definatly waste some energy ,but they last long ,further more transformer less invertor also waste energy at standby position ,which is same as equal as transformer based .
Thanks for your comment
Life is so easy when something is explained is sort and simple terms.. really appreciate your helpful explanations on this topic.. you made my day, now the choice is mine to make.. I salute you sir 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
This video is more than perfect and very short, containing all the questions in my mind
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very good straight forward video. thank you for sharing.
@@genemitraYou are welcome
Simply addressed my curiosity
Very interesting, thanks. Will be looking forward for your next video
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Ur video is clean. Sweet 4k resolution 🤗🙌
What are noticeable differences one should look for when buying an inverter?
Very Informative and Helpful
Thank You Mohammed
I disagree with the second points. There are transformer inverters with that equal have inbuilt charge controller in it. And for the transformerless, the charge contoller can still with when the invertong section is fault as far as the inverter power section is still functioning
supported
can you explain the difference and pro and cons between real low frequency square transformer inverter and hybrid frequency toroidal technology like victron? victron say this technology have both low frequency and high frequency pros.
but sure dont have 3 times surge power I see, thank you
I came across your video today when I was researching how bonding inverter neutral to earth works. I have the axpert type transformerless hybrid inverter. To be able for the earrh leakage to work, inverter output neutral should be bonded to earth but I do not know if my inverter outout will be damaged. In my opinion one of the output mosfet banks will be shorted to earth in the process. Your thoughts on the matter will be appreciated.
Great video fella, done all the tiny tears ones, but its only the heavy low voltage that cut it without a moan, and I’ve gone through a couple of good but mosfet driven machines, which all said were capable under load……hong Kong Fuji I’m afraid, Heavy rules if you power big things✌️
Thank you so much for your comment
You are doing well
Thank you
Your videos are very insightful. I usually watch your videos and American Will Prowse videos. I watched your video on batteries and decided to go for a lithium battery against what most installers were suggesting. I watched this video and decided to go for Hybrid Inverter. But shockingly and sadly it lasted for only three months, it was installed by a professional installer in July, and it stopped working on October 11, 2024. It just went off suddenly and since then refused to come up if you switch it on. I have come to watch this video again to see if there is anything I missed. It was a 6.2kva hybrid inverter, it never displayed any fault code. The only sign was one day, two weeks before malfunctioning, my wife complained she heard a strange noise from the inverter as if something was sparking inside. I listened and observed subsequent days, but never heard it. I don't know whether I did any wrong , I usually switch it off whenever when the grid power ( NEPA Light) is available or come on if the battery is fully charged. I heard you say frequent fluctuations can lead to damage. Is an inverter supposed to be permanently on once installed? what could make a hybrid inverter go bad so early? One person said load, but I have never given a load more than 15% of its capacity of 6.2kva. The highest load is when I put on water pumping machine which has a load 900w. Most times I switch off other appliances when pumping water. I never used AC on it. My questions to this community are 1) What are the things that could make a get bad so quickly. 2) are inverters supposed to be permanently on 3) is it advisable to use an external charge controller with hybrid inverter because am suspecting whether the charge coming from the 700w bifacial solar panels is too much for the inverter to handle. 4) which brand from experience of others are durable- there are just too many products or brands out there.
@@mikizhero sorry to hear about your bad experience with a hibrid inverter, might be surge related or brand quality.
Am a solar installer, I have used Transformer base Inverter and now switch to Transformerless inverter. Hybrid Inverter seems better especially if it's high voltage. But what I noticed on both and I wish people take it serious is you connecting your system to the grid. It does damage quickly than when you rely only on Solar Panels.
I used my transformer base Inverter for 5 years without PHCN and Generator and I didn't have any issues. My current system which is Hybrid Inverter is not connected to Generator or PHCN but only Solar panel
The problem is the surge not the charger controller or solar panel.. Like I said early on my post if you connect your system to Grid or Generator you will always face the issue of fault on your system especially if it's transformerless Inverter... I can tell you that my system is 4.2kva Hybrid and powered my pumping machine with chess freezer at the same time but what I noticed was it will make the system unstable as at that moment.. Before it stable.
Check the Wattage intake of the system.
Check the Voltage coming in if there is full sun.
Disconnect the system from Grid and Generator and only rely on Solar Panel
If there is still space for your system to take more solar panel don't estimate to add more.
Currently am using 300W BY 6= 1800W
Input Wattage of the system is 6200W
But mind you that whatever you do don't complete the full input at least give space of 400w this depend on the type of Solar Panel used I mean brand.
@simlo1108 thanks so much for your reply. I am absolutely grateful for your response
@simlo1108 Again thanks so much for your input. I am just curious,Why did you switch to hybrid after 5 years of no trouble with transformer based inverter? I am not an installer, so I am not experienced as you are but following my mishap, I have concluded (whether rightly or wrongly I don't know) that transformer based inverters are better from watching many many videos and reading reviews. It appears though technology is moving towards hybrid as most manufacturers seem to be making more of hybrid inverters. I don't whether it's because it cheaper and the more people buy the better for chinese manufacturers irrespective of whether it is durable or not since there is no consumer protection agencies to protect costumers especially here in Africa or Nigeria.. I have decided to buy a transformer based inverter but don't know the good ones out there. A lot of people scream felicity but being a Chinese company I am a bit skeptical. So your post about hybrid inverters being better is really interesting and making me wonder if I am actually wrong about my conclusion about inverters. Could it be I just had a bad experience based on the brand I bought ( Wellion) which I will NEVER RECOMMEND to any person. For me that brand is a devil's trap for so many reasons. Again , why did you switch ?
Thanks. You have done a great review on the two inverters
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for your educational advice plz may you talk more about 48V mppts if they can charge a 36V battery bank there is Alot of confusion there 🙏
Is it normal for my xpert king 5kva to make a slight buzzing sound when on
Inverters generally have a lot of buzzing sounds that indicate different things , from low battery to high voltage detecttion., error sounds and overload sounds , so its difficult to say which is applicable to you.
Nice video sir, one this to note is that they both use Transformer, the difference is that one uses iron core Transformer and the Orther uses high frequency Transformer which is generally much more smaller.
Thanks Flawless
Thanks for the information
Thanks for sharing 😊
@@cleomwansa156 You are welcome
Nice work man i choose the inverter transformerless
Good choice!
What is " mosfet based trafomerless" ?
Thank you for the video
Thank you my friend
from what ive researched and tested it really depends on what the inverters are powering and at what Hz and voltage...
Thanks for lending your insight
I have a question , what could the cause be ... panels are connected to the inverter and solar power indicates but not charging?
Is your inverter a highbrid
Wonderful review.
I’m planning on getting an inverter and I have two options before me, a transformer based hybrid inverter and a non hybrid transformer inverter with external charge controller.
Apart from cost implications, which of the setup will have more advantages over the other?
Run away from hybrid inverters
In Pakistan the prices of transformer less inverters are so high but transformer based ups or inverter prices are not much high. For now I am buying a T. Less inverter but I will make a T. Based inverter by myself. Can you tell me how much power is lost by T. Based inverter?
Nice video, are there no hybrid transformer based inverters?
There is
I bought the 2 transformer and non transformer I will install one in my Vilage and one in my abuja house. Installed already. From my experiment here I think transformer based is better with my external MPPT low noise and durable while the Transformer based is full of heat and noise. Hybrid is useless to me..
Great choice
Why do say it is useless please. I had a very bad experience with hybrid. Can suggest a brand that is durable for a transformer based inverter please
Why do transformer base inverter always come with fraction... 1.5kva ,3.5kva and so on
The KVAs are its load kilowatt capacity meeting our different energy needs.
Good afternoon,I just came about your video this afternoon,I want to go for the transformer base inverter,how much sir.
@@adeolakarimah2541 get yohako,must,bluepower or Felicity and price depends on your load needs
Hello sir how can I eathing my solar system
The charge controller and the inverter has a provsion on the body surface where you can connect your earthing wire and bond it with the existing earthing facilty in the house. If there is none in the house you will need to provide it. An earthing copper rod is usually inserseted in the ground.
Currently low frequency inverter that uses toroidal transformers are more efficient than transformerless inverter examples are yohako inverters and victron inverter,and not all transformerless inverters has a built in mppt,the main difference to me between the transformer and non transformerless inverters are the applications
Hello William we are are all saying the same thing I made it very clear in the video that high frequency inverter as a self device is more energy efficient, however it doesn’t operate well with high-surge loads like pumps and high-torque tools.
@@smilinsunsmilinsun8056 low frequency inverters handles surges well, you mean high-frequency inverters,what i was saying in my earlier reply was there are low frequency inverter with the same idle consumption as high frequency inverter there by throwing away the point of one is more efficient than the other
@@odeywilliams7596 I meant high frequency not low frequency but in all retrospect high frequency inverter is still more energy efficient than a low frequency inverter.
@@smilinsunsmilinsun8056 research on low frequency inverters that uses toroidal transformers and see why they are as energy efficient if not more than high frequency inverters,youll also know why victron inverters uses it everybod learns something new everyday
Okay bro you do not know what u are explaining!!! Mostly wrong information
Its ok to say real inverters LF, vs, Bullshit inverters HF, only peoples who gets there little feelings hurt have either wasted there money already, or there never gonna accept the truth
Hundred percent correct though I would not say it bluntly as u did here.