In Royal Thai Army, we call them with the official name "ปลย.11 (Type 11 rifle )" Commissioned in 1968 and Large amount of these beautiful rifle made by The Army ordnance
@@helveticarms Hello man. Very cool vid. I didn't know your channel, YT has recomended it to me today. Subscribed now!. I love this rifle, but haven't had the chance to get one in my hands. There's only a question I have: Is it true that suffers from overheating more then an M16?. And, in relation to ammo, Is it true that it's very hard to get proper ones for this gun nowdays?.... My questions are because I have listened a lot of people complaining about that, but I'm still wondering... like to me, it doesn't fit something like that. It was conceived as a war fighting weapon, and considering it's an H&K, though not perfect (but hell, which rifle is, right?), it still delivers very good and is a top performer. Thank you for your time. I'll check your other vids too. Regards.
@@sebastianmacario76 hello, thanks for your support! It's a really nice rifle, and has many good qualities, I dont know about the ammo issue, it seems to shoot fine with what ever I use, which is pretty standard stuff, this is an original hk rifle, it could shoot worse if it's a parts kit build from the u.s or something. In terms of overheating, it could be possible that it overheats more than others, but not sure, I did not shoot it until cookoff.. the HK33 was very popular amongst police and counter terror units, however not so popular with military adoption, perhaps there are reasons for that, such as its not as resistance to things like heat or other adverse conditions. Or it could just be a cost thing. Hard to say. Overall I think its definitely good enough for anyone who wants to use it as go to rifle, like you said, every rifle has quirks and you just have to work around them.
With a variable lenght but and the addition of a picatiny rail with modern visers. this old ( and cheap ) assault rifle would have become a value for money asset for every army in the world.
Here's my hk 33 review "It shoots flat" Pulls handgun, later shoots PKM Was this an excuse to just fill send some rounds? Because I think you can just title the video that, and we'll watch still
Thanks for the feedback, I didn't intend on this being a review, which is why I mentioned it was just first impressions. I will consider changing the title, maybe to "first shots".
@@helveticarms oh I was just messing around... It was first impressions on the hk33 select fire And bringing out the PKM well, who doesn't love seeing a PKM fire full auto?
The H&R T223 used by SEALs in Vietnam was actually German made then re stamped by H&R,. They had it on trial for less than a year, it was loved but ultimately not adopted as it's not American
The Seals didn't have a problem using the Swedish k. Hell, when the Swedes stopped selling them to us we made a bootleg version ourselves. Unless you have an official memorandum that says "we will only use domestically produced weapons," I don't think we should assume that the only reason it wasn't used is because it was a German weapon.
@@connorsproles9239that’s a bit different. Considering Vietnam took place (officially for the US) in the 60s and 70s, you would’ve had a lot of the men fighting in the war being the sons of the veterans fighting in World War II alongside veterans themselves. I’m not saying every man was buying into the anti-German mindset post WWII, but was extremely common. Plus, that’s not the only reason why the rifle wasn’t adopted. I believe another major factor was cost, hence why the US cheapened their service personnel out by adopting the early M16.
This MG is PK (As the owner said) not PKM. (Surely as nice to own.) PKM does not have fluted barrel and the flash suppressor is different(?) And the PKM has more stiffening ribs in top cover.
Ahh the IRL R91 (yeah it’s actually the CETME L but it’s chambered in the HK33’s round because Bethesda, so I like to think they adopted this in the lord instead) Fuckin Teutonic moon steel at work, and one of the most gorgeous rifle platforms I’ve ever seen
They're are but you'll be spending a pretty penny nowadays. You can find Century built C93's for under 1.5k but you kinda have to be carful when purchasing one as the build quality on some of the C93's they produced is not great.
When we did some shooting practices a long while back, some of these guns jammed after only one shot, but I never got to know the reasons , I hope somebody here can explain the causes thank you
It would he impossible to know why in this case, either there was defective parts, bad ammo, defective magazine, or very poorly maintained, as can be the case with any rifle. Now in the u.s they make these out of formerly destroyed parts kits or rebuild the receiver in often lower quality conditions so the guns arnt as reliable as they originally were. This could be the case for HK clones and others. Century arms C93 is known for having irregular quality.
HK33 is known to be picky in terms of ammo types. It utilises delayed roller blowback automatics and it is pre-regulated for certain type of ammo like Spanish 5.56 etc. If you try to feed different ammo (of the same 5.56 NATO caliber), the automatics will most likely malfunction. HK G3 is less prone to this problem because it uses stronger 7.62 x 51 rounds and is more tolerant to the variations in the load (both watered-down 7.62x51 rounds and high-pressure 7.62x51 are still within the working interval) "The reliable functioning of roller-delayed blowback mechanisms is limited by specific ammunition and arm parameters like bullet weight, propellant charge, barrel length and amount of wear. For obtaining a proper and safe functioning parameters bandwidth Heckler & Koch offer a variety of locking pieces with different mass and shoulder angles. The angles are critical and determine the unlock timing and pressure curve progression as the locking pieces act in unison with the bolt head carrier."
Yeah I guess it was ordered without it, all the other sg1s I've seen from the same department are in the same config, guess they didnt think they needed it
ça depend du canton, car chaque un as ses règles. Mais en gros ils faut etre reconnu come collectioneur, c'est cas par cas, et ils faut un coffre fort et suivre certains conditions et de but de collection. Apres ils faut faire une demande a la police chaque fois que tu veux tiré en full. Normallement c'est 100 chf par seance. Mais ils faut mieux appler votre bureau des armes et se renseigner.
Those are really really quite rare, I only know of 1 or 2 and they are very exclusive, or military only. We have lots of 300m only ranges in each town. Those are great but generally you are not allowed to shoot any non swiss issue rifle, and definitely not a full auto. If you know of a hundred meter increment range that's open to the public, please let me know 🙏
@@helveticarms I would switch to shooting only Swiss military rifles (you get good deals on those anyway) and settle for the 300m outdoor ranges. Indoor ranges suck.
POV:Your a Thai solder in Bangkok may 19 2010
Bangcock!!! Hahahahaha, Bangcock!!!!!
very dark humor
It's the 5.56 sturmgeweher
it was also used by the Malaysian Army in the jungle against the communist terrorists in the 70s -they prefer the M16 more apparently
In Royal Thai Army, we call them with the official name "ปลย.11 (Type 11 rifle )" Commissioned in 1968 and Large amount of these beautiful rifle made by The Army ordnance
Awesome, thanks for the information!
@@helveticarms Hello man. Very cool vid. I didn't know your channel, YT has recomended it to me today. Subscribed now!. I love this rifle, but haven't had the chance to get one in my hands.
There's only a question I have: Is it true that suffers from overheating more then an M16?. And, in relation to ammo, Is it true that it's very hard to get proper ones for this gun nowdays?.... My questions are because I have listened a lot of people complaining about that, but I'm still wondering... like to me, it doesn't fit something like that. It was conceived as a war fighting weapon, and considering it's an H&K, though not perfect (but hell, which rifle is, right?), it still delivers very good and is a top performer.
Thank you for your time. I'll check your other vids too. Regards.
@@sebastianmacario76 hello, thanks for your support! It's a really nice rifle, and has many good qualities, I dont know about the ammo issue, it seems to shoot fine with what ever I use, which is pretty standard stuff, this is an original hk rifle, it could shoot worse if it's a parts kit build from the u.s or something. In terms of overheating, it could be possible that it overheats more than others, but not sure, I did not shoot it until cookoff.. the HK33 was very popular amongst police and counter terror units, however not so popular with military adoption, perhaps there are reasons for that, such as its not as resistance to things like heat or other adverse conditions. Or it could just be a cost thing. Hard to say. Overall I think its definitely good enough for anyone who wants to use it as go to rifle, like you said, every rifle has quirks and you just have to work around them.
Like sturmgewehr but better
With a variable lenght but and the addition of a picatiny rail with modern visers. this old ( and cheap ) assault rifle would have become a value for money asset for every army in the world.
i wish i can buy one !!!! , it is very awesome even HK33 semi is not too bad !!! , if congress take out the NFA we can enjoy freedom a little bet more
Here's my hk 33 review
"It shoots flat"
Pulls handgun, later shoots PKM
Was this an excuse to just fill send some rounds? Because I think you can just title the video that, and we'll watch still
Thanks for the feedback, I didn't intend on this being a review, which is why I mentioned it was just first impressions. I will consider changing the title, maybe to "first shots".
@@helveticarms oh I was just messing around... It was first impressions on the hk33 select fire
And bringing out the PKM well, who doesn't love seeing a PKM fire full auto?
@@JaykPuten The ones getting shot at, I presume.
The H&R T223 used by SEALs in Vietnam was actually German made then re stamped by H&R,. They had it on trial for less than a year, it was loved but ultimately not adopted as it's not American
The Seals didn't have a problem using the Swedish k. Hell, when the Swedes stopped selling them to us we made a bootleg version ourselves. Unless you have an official memorandum that says "we will only use domestically produced weapons," I don't think we should assume that the only reason it wasn't used is because it was a German weapon.
Once again American elitism cripples our fighting ability.
@@connorsproles9239that’s a bit different. Considering Vietnam took place (officially for the US) in the 60s and 70s, you would’ve had a lot of the men fighting in the war being the sons of the veterans fighting in World War II alongside veterans themselves. I’m not saying every man was buying into the anti-German mindset post WWII, but was extremely common. Plus, that’s not the only reason why the rifle wasn’t adopted. I believe another major factor was cost, hence why the US cheapened their service personnel out by adopting the early M16.
Such a sweet Gun. Many thanks for showing.
This MG is PK (As the owner said) not PKM.
(Surely as nice to own.)
PKM does not have fluted barrel and the flash suppressor is different(?)
And the PKM has more stiffening ribs in top cover.
Ahh the IRL R91 (yeah it’s actually the CETME L but it’s chambered in the HK33’s round because Bethesda, so I like to think they adopted this in the lord instead)
Fuckin Teutonic moon steel at work, and one of the most gorgeous rifle platforms I’ve ever seen
Ive got a decent C93 at home. Sexy rifles.
we need semi auto version of this gun on USA market, I want a HK33 rifle
There is many different hk 43 hk 93 mke t43
They're are but you'll be spending a pretty penny nowadays. You can find Century built C93's for under 1.5k but you kinda have to be carful when purchasing one as the build quality on some of the C93's they produced is not great.
Tactic hall a evionnaz 👍 très très bon stand je vous le conseil vivement 😊
Why did you look around like a tactical clown after shooting? There is no one else in there...
Cool!
When we did some shooting practices a long while back, some of these guns jammed after only one shot, but I never got to know the reasons , I hope somebody here can explain the causes thank you
It would he impossible to know why in this case, either there was defective parts, bad ammo, defective magazine, or very poorly maintained, as can be the case with any rifle. Now in the u.s they make these out of formerly destroyed parts kits or rebuild the receiver in often lower quality conditions so the guns arnt as reliable as they originally were. This could be the case for HK clones and others. Century arms C93 is known for having irregular quality.
HK33 is known to be picky in terms of ammo types. It utilises delayed roller blowback automatics and it is pre-regulated for certain type of ammo like Spanish 5.56 etc. If you try to feed different ammo (of the same 5.56 NATO caliber), the automatics will most likely malfunction. HK G3 is less prone to this problem because it uses stronger 7.62 x 51 rounds and is more tolerant to the variations in the load (both watered-down 7.62x51 rounds and high-pressure 7.62x51 are still within the working interval)
"The reliable functioning of roller-delayed blowback mechanisms is limited by specific ammunition and arm parameters like bullet weight, propellant charge, barrel length and amount of wear. For obtaining a proper and safe functioning parameters bandwidth Heckler & Koch offer a variety of locking pieces with different mass and shoulder angles. The angles are critical and determine the unlock timing and pressure curve progression as the locking pieces act in unison with the bolt head carrier."
It's too bad that it doesn't come with the SG/1 trigger pack, otherwise it'll be even more cool!
Yeah I guess it was ordered without it, all the other sg1s I've seen from the same department are in the same config, guess they didnt think they needed it
HK33 didn't failed to impress 👍🏻
Sadly, why it's discontinued in production?
@@tontosilver6578 technically obsolete to HK new designs, G36, hk416 , hk433
Nice toy. Thanks for the shooting video and the history. I also liked the bonus PKM shoot!
🤓😎Foggles again? Bane of my life...
The Seals liked it because of sound. The VC could hear the difference btw M16 vs AK. Cool vid.
Germán domi
Pouvez vous me renseigner sur les conditions d’obtention d’un permis d’acquisition exceptionnel svp ce genre de petit bijou me fait de l’œil ahah ^^
ça depend du canton, car chaque un as ses règles. Mais en gros ils faut etre reconnu come collectioneur, c'est cas par cas, et ils faut un coffre fort et suivre certains conditions et de but de collection. Apres ils faut faire une demande a la police chaque fois que tu veux tiré en full. Normallement c'est 100 chf par seance. Mais ils faut mieux appler votre bureau des armes et se renseigner.
@@helveticarms d’accord je vous remercie 😁 une bonne soirée à vous !
One of the descendants of the StG-45 that is very close to it.
Ummm who cares….. proceeds to care 😂
Pretty good video. Keep up the good work and you will grow a lot, believe me, i know how to grow very slowly on YT. 🤣
Thank you for the support ! 🙏🤙
I know u have outdoor ranges w hundred meter range increments in Switzerland...
Those are really really quite rare, I only know of 1 or 2 and they are very exclusive, or military only. We have lots of 300m only ranges in each town. Those are great but generally you are not allowed to shoot any non swiss issue rifle, and definitely not a full auto. If you know of a hundred meter increment range that's open to the public, please let me know 🙏
@@helveticarms I would switch to shooting only Swiss military rifles (you get good deals on those anyway) and settle for the 300m outdoor ranges. Indoor ranges suck.
@@edgarburlyman738 actually I like both. But because of cost, I shoot at 300m more frequently.
What camo pattern is that?
Erdl BDUs from Vietnam War era
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