I bought this comic in a shop in rural Ireland 20 years ago and there are STILL copies of it in that shop to this day! Keep in mind, we don' have American Football there at all.
I know this video is pretty old by now, but there actually was a pretty good Football comic, it was called Eyeshield 21, and it ran in Weekly Jump from 2002-2009. I'm pretty sure they released it all in English, so you can probably pick it up on Amazon. It'd be expensive though, 'cause it's 37 volumes long. Has great art by Murata Yusuke, the same guy who illustrates Onepunch-man. There hasn't been a good Football comic made in America though, that much is super true.
SherlockHyde How bizarre is that? Football is practically “our sport,” and we can’t even make a good comic about it. Unless you meant U.K. football. ⚽️
@@TheZooropaBaby manga is different from comics, for instance the mangaka keeps the artwork constant, and they pretty much write and draw themselves, they do have assistants, but they do filler work, retouch and such. The publisher has some control over the "saga" but is not a group of editors deciding who will wear what, or which crossover or licence to mix. So is different from Comics, where the Editors hold most of the control, you can have different writers doing unconnected stuff, the arcs are short and mostly messy, continuity is not an issue with different writers and artist, also art can go from 3 to 10 or reverse in a couple of issues. the IP are shared, and can travel across many platforms, Comics is a more bureaucratic art form than Manga.. Think One punch Man, and Death note, or Slam Dunk, are separated on their Universes. they are enclosed, and the IP can go around on games or Anime form, but is not a mess like Comics, where the different parts have freedom to do as they please to fit their needs, like movies and series. Comics used to be more like manga, back on the 60-70 s , but with the industry growing fast and diversification of material and the need to output more and more, came the chaos, and random writers grabbing an issue or two, never coming back, became the norm, and all the ideas now are short on longevity, they don 't stack , there are no meaningful arcs, and sagas are non existent, a 2 -3 years run on a character is rare.
Actually, at the time of this comic's publication, there were two LA football teams, the LA Raiders AND the LA Rams. The Rams moved to St. Louis in 1994, and the Raiders moved back to Oakland in 1995. LA had no football team for 20 years. In 2015 the Rams moved back to LA. In 2020, the Raiders are about to move to Las Vegas. You do such a great job explaining comics, I figured I would do you a solid back at you with the Football info.
Hey I just finished watching this episode and your breakdown was a lot of fun. At one point you questioned why one of the assassins blew up inside the house. I think what happened, based on the previous panels, one of the assassins was sporting what I believe to be was a bazooka (?!) while the other two seemed to have shotguns, and the one with the bazooka fired it inside the house which caused the explosion. Anyway, love the channel and keep up the great work!
10:59 well, there's a LOT of regular people who can jump down on a car and even catch the bad guy. Maybe Spidey is impressed by how badly Super Pro performs
Spider-Man: "He's every bit as good as the newspapers say!" The newspapers: "Another attempt to catch a criminal was bungled once again by the laughingstock of both the football and superhero communities, SuperPro!"
My grandmother has this comic and a few other gimmick books from the 90s in a drawer somewhere. She got them off of the Home Shopping Network. She still thinks they will be worth something some day.
Decades of football teams striving to make themselves look cool in uniforms, and whoever designed Superpro made his uniform look like nothing that’s ever existed. They followed no one’s example of how to make any part of a uniform look good. Not even color composition, the thing almost everyone has gotten right since the beginning.
15:40 Beautyful women dont eat much cookies? Sorry man. This is some of your imagination. Women love cookies. Some just don't eat TOO much. But this one has just a few on her plate.
I had this comic when I was a kid, along with the special premiere issue before issue #1 (as though this guy was going to be a big deal) that went into detail on Superpro's origin. The first goon he took out sarcastically referred to him as "Super Football Man", which is only barely a worse name. So Superpro started off getting mocked. The inventor of the suit (the Superpro suit, hence the name) did survive his kidnapping. Instantly after gaining his powers, Superpro donned the suit, took out the goons, and the inventor gave him the suit in gratitude. Good thing it was such a great fit.😏 Superpro had also been active for a bit before issue #1, hence the reason people knew him, though the extent of his public recognition is overblown. I'm actually surprised at how much I remember.
I actually owned this comic. I bought it for like a quarter and loved it for its cheesiness. BTW, the hair cut is legit, reminds me of Brian Bozworth who was an NFL player in the late 80s who was as bad as Superpro, in the sense he was a flash in the pan, I think NFL super pro lasted longer with his 12 issues.
I have the whole run (including the Annual/"Special Edition"). #5 features guest star _Lawrence Taylor!!_ But without a doubt the most ludicrously hilarious issue is the last one; the last two pages in particular. NFL Superpro asks the cops to wait before taking away that issue's villain - the cliche good kid gone bad - so that he can deliver this inspiring speech: "It's everyone's responsibility to think globally and act locally. Just remember - it starts with caring. And you can take that straight from....(at this point, we must turn the page to behold one of the most laughable full-page splash panels ever - the Action Pose to end them all)....NFL SUPERPRO!!" Except it's the cover logo in the word balloon instead of normal lettering. Like a Greek chorus, the cops look on, trying but failing not to laugh - as if he'd demanded to know who'd been making fun of his good friend Biggus Dickus. Amazing comic book.
Is it bad that I like to think that, in universe, the reason we don't hear from him is that Phil Grayfield got sued by the NFL, lost the rights, lost the suit, lost his job and girlfriend, got overweight and became a washed-up guy that works as a football coach?
The "Pro knows Basketball" is a parodied reference to the whole "Bo knows Baseball, Bo knows Football" craze of the early 1990s for Bo Jackson who actually played for the Raiders.
I know there is no way that it could be done because of the NFL license, but I would absolutely love to see Marvel bring this character back in a way that takes the piss on him but also maybe does a little Redemptive work. At no point do I think that this character could pass off as a serious character, but in earnest and naive one... I think that has some good comedic potential.
I always enjoyed in the cartoon when they'd wear their "uniforms" in inappropriate environments. Although, in the animated movie, Quick Kick reluctantly put on a winter jacket. Pretty sure no shirt though.
MacArthur S. Ito (Codename: Quick Kick) is a professional stunt man for major Hollywood productions. He has absolutely no military training whatsoever and yet he was placed in one of the most elite special forces outfits. G.I Joe will literally hire anybody.
This made my day! I was listening only, as I was trying to relax and have a kip, but your commentary and remarks, within, fair (nearly) cracked me up. Excellent work. I gotta get myself a copy of this series. It looks funnier than "Supermans (dopey) GF: Lois Lane", which I bought some old copies of, because it excelled in being so crummy. EVERY story seems to be ended with the terrible, "Oh! Thanks goodness it was just a dream!", cop-out ending. I am still feeling short-changed by the Love and Rockets "ending" |:( Keep up the good work Chris. I'm working thru all your videos, and I'm hoping to send you some artwork/small, "Tales from the Crypt" style stories pretty soon. I figured small, self-contained, 2000AD-style "time twisters" type thing was a good place to start writing and drawing my own comics. I just got a copy of "Cerebus Guide to Self Publishing" (97 revision), and it's very frank talking, insightful, and, best of all: inspiring. lll send you the stuff when it's done, if that's cool. Much respect from the UK JpD.
I read this (scaned thru, as you had "de-mystified" the plot. I have to give it (... Is there a "prop" position in American Football?) props, and say this: I think the art is really nice - I would describe it, personally, as a perfect example of slick, American Super-Hero artwork; now, the panel-to-panel visual "head-scratchers", like the non-introducion of the telephone wires is see definitely NOT an example of the best work, but: taken in single instances/panels, I thought it looked like I THInK a "proper" US comic book should look. Bland, but perfect. Cheers for turning me on to this title. Many copies on eBay.co.uk, without even a trace of guilt or shame in trying to sell this "duffer" of a title. I wanted it, for a smile when I flip thru my cratesn - but 5 to 7 GBP's is double-too-much to to be considered a novelty 'value". The endzone is in sight, so I must say: Touchddown! Keep up good work. JoE. :)
I think if they'd give it a serious thought and resources they could make a sucessful comic series. In Japan manga about various sports is influencing the youth a lot through its story telling.
This was the first comic I ever collected as an actual collector. I was transitioning between sports cards to comics, and SuperPro was a great way to get me into the door because at the time I was certain I was going to the NFL as an adult. Well, I never made the NFL, but even though I know the book is bad, I'll always have a soft spot for it.
Ok, better origin story for Superpro in case they decide to reboot him: At the beginning of the story he's interviewing a scientist that's made a better set of padding for football players to greatly reduce injuries. It has the NFL logo on it because he's trying to convince the NFL to mandate its use. Later he's walking down the street and sees some of those steroid people attacking someone and jumps in to help them. Turns out it was Spiderman. During the fight one of the guys cuts Spiderman with a knife. The guy goes to stab the now stunned Spiderman but Suerpro tackles Spiderman out of the way, getting stabbed instead. Peter's blood on the knife, mixed with the radiation in it, give Superpro Peter's super strength, but because he has more muscle than Peter he's actually stronger than Spiderman. After he recovers Spiderman comes to see him at his house and convinces him to be a super hero. They go to the scientist that made the suit and convince him that a super hero wearing his armor would be the publicity he needs to convince the NFL of how amazing the armor is and he gives Superpro the armor.
I can only hate so much because SuperPro #2 was THE first comic I ever bought. It took me issue #3 before I realized it was lame and picked up Thor #448 next. Id love to see your take on Slapstick
So one Halloween trick or treating I actually got the Quick Kick issue instead of candy from a dentist on the street I lived as a kid. I didn't think anyone had ever heard of Super Pro until now. Love your channel, another great episode!
You can't blame Fabian Nicieza for taking the gig, but you most definitely can blame him for the awful story, dialogue and writing. I actually bought the first 10 issues of this when it came out and unironically enjoyed it. Of course I was just 10 years old at the time, which says a lot about how lame this book was and the calibre of writer KayFabe-ian Nicieza was.
This would be excellent as a self-aware modern story. But he was only on an NFL team for like half a season, and now he just desperately needs to prove his own value to himself.
Someone's probably already made this suggestion, but a better story idea to bring the NFL into the Marvel Universe would be to have a plot where some organization trying to recreate the Super Soldier formula experiments on football athletes. I mean, Super Pro's costume is barely one tier up from the 70s tv movie Captain America costume.
They never said the NFL collector's name and the dude has made a football themed iron man suit and his collection has some weird chemicals for reasons we are never told. So....I'm gonna pretend this guy is The Collector for the hell of it.(I mean it's canon he collects anything and anyone so why not?).
I really want to see the script for this. I can only imagine it is filled with sarcasm and loathing. I just can't see Fabe writing "and then Superpro kicks the villain field goal style!" with sincerity.
You should do a show on the Marvel comic that (attempted) to cash in on the "Trucking" craze. It's called "US 1", and features a protagonist who uses CB radio... with his mind. It's gotta be game for some laughs and ribbing. I'm gonna try it myself, now, as I could do with a grin. Cheers Chris Joe.
I wish I could double-triple like this video. I watch it at least once a week. I think this style works best for you personally, Chris. "Half-Jokey". Please do more of these when possible. Cheers! "LiL'JpD."
They should have called the Penny Guy “The Inflationator!” Throwing money around like that is going to cause problems, because you have to assume he’s creating it from nothing… otherwise he’s stealing existing money from somewhere else.
Geez I might have this in my parents' garage somewhere. Price Club (Now Costco) used to sell packs of the bottom tier Marvel books in bundles of 20 issues or so. I got this comic in one of those packs.
Hey Chris! I love your videos: they're the perfect blend of funny and informative. You should check out the comics featuring the rock group KISS if you haven't already. THAT is quite the rabbit hole to go down.
If I recall, there was a "Superpro" action figure, or sports statue in action poses, series that was sold in the 80's that I remember them doing a relaunch of in the 90's. It was essentially sports star action figures. It wasn't just football. They had action figures of football, basketball, and baseball players. I wonder if "NFL Superpro" was intended originally to promote that toy line. This comic came out around the same time that I recall them trying to relaunch the action figure line.
The reason I will always remember Superpro #1 was when my best friend at the time bought several copies, knowing he was going to get rich because it was a #1. Even though I was 14 and swept up in #1 fever, I knew that this was not going to make rich. 33 years later, this is the first time I’ve ever seen inside.
I found several Kickers Inc comics at a flea market and passed on them. I did find some old Conan, Horror Anthology and Doctor Strange comics, though, so I still made some purchases.
I once had (and still might somewhere) Solo #2. I don't remember what the issue was about and didn't even realize as a kid that it wasn't actually a Spider-Man comic (which is why I owned it. As if I was looking for Solo comics), but at least they interacted. Solo and Spidey even fought briefly.
Correction, the (at the time) LA Raiders would soon move back to Oakland, though they would eventually move to Las Vegas. The Rams are/were a different gridiron football team.
I think I'd try a football/sports comic set in one fo the major superhero universes, but I think I'd prefer if they do it a bit more like anime/manga sports and just exaggerate the visuals for an actual game. It could be cool to see a Metropolis Sharks series where they have some long forgotten side character get drafted and we see Superman stuff from the POV of regular people. We could have Clark and Lois on dates in the stadium or have Lex in a "good guy" position as the teams backer. An issue could be about the players having to deal with Booster Gold's weird demands for endorsing the team or Parasite stalking a member and trying to absorb them to get "closer". Nowadays they could do it as one of those free digital comics. It could work if they get the audience to care about the players as characters and have some light fun with the world without full on bringing them into the superhero life.
The way super pro talks makes me think if he ends up being a superhero whose real identity is a football player struggling with concussion and cannot control his power outside of specific types of movement (basically football). He has the power and strength to help people, but football has basically ruined him. But he continues because of the ridiculous culture and for his fans, the world basically set up a false image of him that forces him to continue down a path that is bad. He eventually have to find a way to move on as a hero on his own rather than tied by the bounds of the industry, and become an advocate for safety and support for athletes when he is in his secret identity.
The more I think the plot gets better. Super pro will literally have to confront the dilemma of having to decide between living his dream or achieve his goal of helping and inspiring people, to his bread and butter which is a horrible football team.
I was 15 in 1991 and Marvel had sucked me in with "the Death of Iron Man", not long before. Lame a.f., that Super Pro. But dude, good work keeping on it till you got a good kick. A better showing than the NFL had in comics. Proud of you, nerd boy.
“I need to wash your mouth out…WITH MY FIST!” is the greatest line of dialogue ever written, ever.
There's only been one mention of SuperPro since his book's cancellation. And he apparently got beat up off screen by Stilt Man.
Whoa lol where at ?
@@nickparker5200 Marvel Team-Up Issue 9
Stilt-Man?
Jesus, now I just feel sorry for that guy.
To be fair, the Cursing Assassin's profane reaction to Superpro is easily the most believable dialogue in the book.
Marvel should bring SuperPro into the MCU
hell yea
Disney doesn't own the NFL. Yet.
Better than Capt RBF
Give him his own Netflix series, make it dark and gritty.
Team him up with Combo Man and the Kool-Aid Man!!
I love that he has two NFL logos on him. Helmet and chest. Just in case a bad guy misses it.
RobotsPajamas helmets can get knocked off
The idea NFL Superpro runs around wearing an unofficial NFL supersuit and his actions are entirely not endorsed by the NFL is hilarious.
I bought this comic in a shop in rural Ireland 20 years ago and there are STILL copies of it in that shop to this day! Keep in mind, we don' have American Football there at all.
“The worst origin story of any Marvel character with their own title.” That’s quite the accomplishment.
😂😂😂😂
Skateman just wore roller skates and had no superpowers, he only lasted one issue.
Super Pro team-up with Combo Man...double threat! Make it happen, Marvel!
Double the bland, quadruple the product placement.
Okay, there's no way the writer wasn't delibarately doing a very bad, bland work to get this cancelled without having to actually refuse the job.
"Collector's Item" is late-'80s / early-'90s-ese for "We printed umpty-jillions of these and we think the buying public is sooooooooo stupid ..."
I know this video is pretty old by now, but there actually was a pretty good Football comic, it was called Eyeshield 21, and it ran in Weekly Jump from 2002-2009. I'm pretty sure they released it all in English, so you can probably pick it up on Amazon. It'd be expensive though, 'cause it's 37 volumes long. Has great art by Murata Yusuke, the same guy who illustrates Onepunch-man.
There hasn't been a good Football comic made in America though, that much is super true.
SherlockHyde How bizarre is that? Football is practically “our sport,” and we can’t even make a good comic about it.
Unless you meant U.K. football. ⚽️
Eyeshield 21 is pretty great, although they play pretty fast and loose with the actual rules of football
Eyeshield 21 is a manga, not a comic.
regarding Fútbol (US's "soccer"), Captain Tsubasa is still unrivaled.
@@Changetheling manga is a comic, its just published in a different country, man
@@TheZooropaBaby manga is different from comics, for instance the mangaka keeps the artwork constant, and they pretty much write and draw themselves, they do have assistants, but they do filler work, retouch and such.
The publisher has some control over the "saga" but is not a group of editors deciding who will wear what, or which crossover or licence to mix. So is different from Comics, where the Editors hold most of the control, you can have different writers doing unconnected stuff, the arcs are short and mostly messy, continuity is not an issue with different writers and artist, also art can go from 3 to 10 or reverse in a couple of issues. the IP are shared, and can travel across many platforms, Comics is a more bureaucratic art form than Manga..
Think One punch Man, and Death note, or Slam Dunk, are separated on their Universes. they are enclosed, and the IP can go around on games or Anime form, but is not a mess like Comics, where the different parts have freedom to do as they please to fit their needs, like movies and series. Comics used to be more like manga, back on the 60-70 s , but with the industry growing fast and diversification of material and the need to output more and more, came the chaos, and random writers grabbing an issue or two, never coming back, became the norm, and all the ideas now are short on longevity, they don
't stack , there are no meaningful arcs, and sagas are non existent, a 2 -3 years run on a character is rare.
Actually, at the time of this comic's publication, there were two LA football teams, the LA Raiders AND the LA Rams. The Rams moved to St. Louis in 1994, and the Raiders moved back to Oakland in 1995. LA had no football team for 20 years. In 2015 the Rams moved back to LA. In 2020, the Raiders are about to move to Las Vegas. You do such a great job explaining comics, I figured I would do you a solid back at you with the Football info.
Wow, a whole episode on SuperPro! This is definitely a cool channel.
I found a box full of these at a antique mall
And the vendor was asking $10 + an issue.
Because comics are basically money right?!?! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Just bought a NM copy online for $2 💀
especially these ones
They're waiting for somebody who doesn't know better.
I just bought one for 85 cents.
Hey I just finished watching this episode and your breakdown was a lot of fun. At one point you questioned why one of the assassins blew up inside the house. I think what happened, based on the previous panels, one of the assassins was sporting what I believe to be was a bazooka (?!) while the other two seemed to have shotguns, and the one with the bazooka fired it inside the house which caused the explosion. Anyway, love the channel and keep up the great work!
This is still one of my favorite episodes , I always catch something new I missed. Lmao
10:59 well, there's a LOT of regular people who can jump down on a car and even catch the bad guy. Maybe Spidey is impressed by how badly Super Pro performs
Spider-Man: "He's every bit as good as the newspapers say!"
The newspapers: "Another attempt to catch a criminal was bungled once again by the laughingstock of both the football and superhero communities, SuperPro!"
My grandmother has this comic and a few other gimmick books from the 90s in a drawer somewhere. She got them off of the Home Shopping Network. She still thinks they will be worth something some day.
Decades of football teams striving to make themselves look cool in uniforms, and whoever designed Superpro made his uniform look like nothing that’s ever existed. They followed no one’s example of how to make any part of a uniform look good. Not even color composition, the thing almost everyone has gotten right since the beginning.
15:40 Beautyful women dont eat much cookies?
Sorry man. This is some of your imagination. Women love cookies. Some just don't eat TOO much. But this one has just a few on her plate.
Lol!!
I had this comic when I was a kid, along with the special premiere issue before issue #1 (as though this guy was going to be a big deal) that went into detail on Superpro's origin. The first goon he took out sarcastically referred to him as "Super Football Man", which is only barely a worse name. So Superpro started off getting mocked. The inventor of the suit (the Superpro suit, hence the name) did survive his kidnapping. Instantly after gaining his powers, Superpro donned the suit, took out the goons, and the inventor gave him the suit in gratitude. Good thing it was such a great fit.😏 Superpro had also been active for a bit before issue #1, hence the reason people knew him, though the extent of his public recognition is overblown. I'm actually surprised at how much I remember.
I would just like to point out that at 26:58 the "professional" team of assassins pull up with a pump shotgun with a sniper scope and no stock
They're just that good
I love this episode! In addition to being very knowledgeable about comics, you are also very funny and entertaining
I actually owned this comic. I bought it for like a quarter and loved it for its cheesiness. BTW, the hair cut is legit, reminds me of Brian Bozworth who was an NFL player in the late 80s who was as bad as Superpro, in the sense he was a flash in the pan, I think NFL super pro lasted longer with his 12 issues.
I have the whole run (including the Annual/"Special Edition"). #5 features guest star _Lawrence Taylor!!_ But without a doubt the most ludicrously hilarious issue is the last one; the last two pages in particular. NFL Superpro asks the cops to wait before taking away that issue's villain - the cliche good kid gone bad - so that he can deliver this inspiring speech:
"It's everyone's responsibility to think globally and act locally. Just remember - it starts with caring. And you can take that straight from....(at this point, we must turn the page to behold one of the most laughable full-page splash panels ever - the Action Pose to end them all)....NFL SUPERPRO!!"
Except it's the cover logo in the word balloon instead of normal lettering. Like a Greek chorus, the cops look on, trying but failing not to laugh - as if he'd demanded to know who'd been making fun of his good friend Biggus Dickus. Amazing comic book.
Is it bad that I like to think that, in universe, the reason we don't hear from him is that Phil Grayfield got sued by the NFL, lost the rights, lost the suit, lost his job and girlfriend, got overweight and became a washed-up guy that works as a football coach?
I bought this as a kid because it had Spidey in it... worse than I remember 🤢
I strongly suspect that the series running as long as 12 issues was due to a contractual obligation.
yes a 1 year minimum with the NFL
Oh hi! You caught me knowing more about NFL Superpro than most people care to. Lol 😂😎
The "Pro knows Basketball" is a parodied reference to the whole "Bo knows Baseball, Bo knows Football" craze of the early 1990s for Bo Jackson who actually played for the Raiders.
The video of Mister Skunkape kicking field goals killed me! I never laughed so hard! Pure and cynical entertainment from the one and only--Skunkape!
Glad you enjoyed it.
The "girth" sidekick is Fat Albert, from the silhouette to the "Heh Heh Heh". Wild.
" Hey hey hey - superpro is g@y! "
Gosh , you are wonderful to listen to. So many interesting reviews. Keep the good work!
When Spider-man cameos in the 1st issue you know something's wrong. Usually they wait until #3.
I know there is no way that it could be done because of the NFL license, but I would absolutely love to see Marvel bring this character back in a way that takes the piss on him but also maybe does a little Redemptive work. At no point do I think that this character could pass off as a serious character, but in earnest and naive one... I think that has some good comedic potential.
I'm not even a woman but I still put on lengere and eat cookies whenever I'm alone. Just sayin'.
Quick Kick was also a G.I. Joe with unfortunate footwear (i.e., no footwear).
I always enjoyed in the cartoon when they'd wear their "uniforms" in inappropriate environments. Although, in the animated movie, Quick Kick reluctantly put on a winter jacket. Pretty sure no shirt though.
MacArthur S. Ito (Codename: Quick Kick) is a professional stunt man for major Hollywood productions. He has absolutely no military training whatsoever and yet he was placed in one of the most elite special forces outfits. G.I Joe will literally hire anybody.
It would have been interesting to see the shop owners face when you brought that issue to the register :)
When he "punches" the sniper, he is doing a Heisman pose, it's a very recognizable move for football fans
This made my day! I was listening only, as I was trying to relax and have a kip, but your commentary and remarks, within, fair (nearly) cracked me up. Excellent work. I gotta get myself a copy of this series. It looks funnier than "Supermans (dopey) GF: Lois Lane", which I bought some old copies of, because it excelled in being so crummy. EVERY story seems to be ended with the terrible, "Oh! Thanks goodness it was just a dream!", cop-out ending. I am still feeling short-changed by the Love and Rockets "ending" |:(
Keep up the good work Chris. I'm working thru all your videos, and I'm hoping to send you some artwork/small, "Tales from the Crypt" style stories pretty soon. I figured small, self-contained, 2000AD-style "time twisters" type thing was a good place to start writing and drawing my own comics.
I just got a copy of "Cerebus Guide to Self Publishing" (97 revision), and it's very frank talking, insightful, and, best of all: inspiring. lll send you the stuff when it's done, if that's cool.
Much respect from the UK
JpD.
I read this (scaned thru, as you had "de-mystified" the plot.
I have to give it (... Is there a "prop" position in American Football?) props, and say this: I think the art is really nice - I would describe it, personally, as a perfect example of slick, American Super-Hero artwork; now, the panel-to-panel visual "head-scratchers", like the non-introducion of the telephone wires is see definitely NOT an example of the best work, but: taken in single instances/panels, I thought it looked like I THInK a "proper" US comic book should look. Bland, but perfect.
Cheers for turning me on to this title.
Many copies on eBay.co.uk, without even a trace of guilt or shame in trying to sell this "duffer" of a title. I wanted it, for a smile when I flip thru my cratesn - but 5 to 7 GBP's is double-too-much to to be considered a novelty 'value".
The endzone is in sight, so I must say: Touchddown!
Keep up good work.
JoE.
:)
You issued a beep at around 21 minutes. "Guy in a *%$# costume..."
you travelled the northwest for it. I think it qualifies as a sought after collectible
There's absolutely has been a good football comic, Eyeshield 21. It's a great manga that gets slept on.
I think if they'd give it a serious thought and resources they could make a sucessful comic series. In Japan manga about various sports is influencing the youth a lot through its story telling.
Whilst I respect your opinion, and it's not technically wrong - NHL Superpro isn't great - but I really enjoyed it when I got it a few years ago.
I bought the first issue of super pro for 10 cents from an old guy at a garage sale. Barely worth it.
Except the New Warriors
I’d say you were ripped off. He should have paid YOU to take it.
This was the first comic I ever collected as an actual collector. I was transitioning between sports cards to comics, and SuperPro was a great way to get me into the door because at the time I was certain I was going to the NFL as an adult. Well, I never made the NFL, but even though I know the book is bad, I'll always have a soft spot for it.
Ok, better origin story for Superpro in case they decide to reboot him:
At the beginning of the story he's interviewing a scientist that's made a better set of padding for football players to greatly reduce injuries. It has the NFL logo on it because he's trying to convince the NFL to mandate its use.
Later he's walking down the street and sees some of those steroid people attacking someone and jumps in to help them. Turns out it was Spiderman.
During the fight one of the guys cuts Spiderman with a knife. The guy goes to stab the now stunned Spiderman but Suerpro tackles Spiderman out of the way, getting stabbed instead. Peter's blood on the knife, mixed with the radiation in it, give Superpro Peter's super strength, but because he has more muscle than Peter he's actually stronger than Spiderman.
After he recovers Spiderman comes to see him at his house and convinces him to be a super hero. They go to the scientist that made the suit and convince him that a super hero wearing his armor would be the publicity he needs to convince the NFL of how amazing the armor is and he gives Superpro the armor.
I'm pretty sure I"ve got all of this series. I enjoyed it. lol
I can only hate so much because SuperPro #2 was THE first comic I ever bought. It took me issue #3 before I realized it was lame and picked up Thor #448 next. Id love to see your take on Slapstick
So one Halloween trick or treating I actually got the Quick Kick issue instead of candy from a dentist on the street I lived as a kid. I didn't think anyone had ever heard of Super Pro until now. Love your channel, another great episode!
You can't blame Fabian Nicieza for taking the gig, but you most definitely can blame him for the awful story, dialogue and writing.
I actually bought the first 10 issues of this when it came out and unironically enjoyed it. Of course I was just 10 years old at the time, which says a lot about how lame this book was and the calibre of writer KayFabe-ian Nicieza was.
The money criminal should have been called “coin toss” lol
This would be excellent as a self-aware modern story. But he was only on an NFL team for like half a season, and now he just desperately needs to prove his own value to himself.
funny thing is last i checked how super pro punched is a martial arts technique. think it also reduces chance of injury to the knuckles
Someone's probably already made this suggestion, but a better story idea to bring the NFL into the Marvel Universe would be to have a plot where some organization trying to recreate the Super Soldier formula experiments on football athletes. I mean, Super Pro's costume is barely one tier up from the 70s tv movie Captain America costume.
They never said the NFL collector's name and the dude has made a football themed iron man suit and his collection has some weird chemicals for reasons we are never told.
So....I'm gonna pretend this guy is The Collector for the hell of it.(I mean it's canon he collects anything and anyone so why not?).
I really want to see the script for this. I can only imagine it is filled with sarcasm and loathing. I just can't see Fabe writing "and then Superpro kicks the villain field goal style!" with sincerity.
That looks like a Romita Sr Spider-Man on the cover so there's that!
forgot to add the bleep at 20:56 haha
I actually bought that first issue back in the day only because Spidey was on it. haha
You should do a show on the Marvel comic that (attempted) to cash in on the "Trucking" craze. It's called "US 1", and features a protagonist who uses CB radio... with his mind.
It's gotta be game for some laughs and ribbing. I'm gonna try it myself, now, as I could do with a grin.
Cheers Chris
Joe.
I wish I could double-triple like this video. I watch it at least once a week.
I think this style works best for you personally, Chris. "Half-Jokey". Please do more of these when possible.
Cheers!
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They should have called the Penny Guy “The Inflationator!” Throwing money around like that is going to cause problems, because you have to assume he’s creating it from nothing… otherwise he’s stealing existing money from somewhere else.
Geez I might have this in my parents' garage somewhere. Price Club (Now Costco) used to sell packs of the bottom tier Marvel books in bundles of 20 issues or so. I got this comic in one of those packs.
Ngl that instant replay villain seemed pretty cool
Hey Chris! I love your videos: they're the perfect blend of funny and informative. You should check out the comics featuring the rock group KISS if you haven't already. THAT is quite the rabbit hole to go down.
Can you recommend an issue of a KiSS comic please? I would like a larf!
Cheers
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If I recall, there was a "Superpro" action figure, or sports statue in action poses, series that was sold in the 80's that I remember them doing a relaunch of in the 90's. It was essentially sports star action figures. It wasn't just football. They had action figures of football, basketball, and baseball players. I wonder if "NFL Superpro" was intended originally to promote that toy line. This comic came out around the same time that I recall them trying to relaunch the action figure line.
"When have you ever seen Spider-Man miss?"
I can think of a certain girlfriend
The cursing assassin LOLOL
The reason I will always remember Superpro #1 was when my best friend at the time bought several copies, knowing he was going to get rich because it was a #1. Even though I was 14 and swept up in #1 fever, I knew that this was not going to make rich. 33 years later, this is the first time I’ve ever seen inside.
Amazing Spider-Man 153 (1963) is an awesome football comic book.
Hands down the best review of a comic i saw in my comic shop.i ignored it and according to this my instincts were correct.
the green van thing would work if this was a comedy comic, like that movie 'Super'
He should've had a proper origin in the comics. If this comic was done right, he could've been the Captain America of Football.
I’m surprised they didn’t call him Mr. Jew is the funniest thing on this whole channel. Love your work! So consistent since the beginning
I actually love my Super Pro Comics.
I love how excited you get about comics.
dude you have such a great channel, not hyped enough
I found several Kickers Inc comics at a flea market and passed on them. I did find some old Conan, Horror Anthology and Doctor Strange comics, though, so I still made some purchases.
I bought one issue of Kicker's Inc. during it's initial run and I thought it was boring.
D.P. 7 and Psi Force were the winners for me!
Always liked Nightmask myself
I once had (and still might somewhere) Solo #2. I don't remember what the issue was about and didn't even realize as a kid that it wasn't actually a Spider-Man comic (which is why I owned it. As if I was looking for Solo comics), but at least they interacted. Solo and Spidey even fought briefly.
Are you kidding me? EVERYONE knows who Superpro is!!!!! Everyone!!!
I wanna see the Punisher go after NFL Superpro for intellectual property theft.
Correction, the (at the time) LA Raiders would soon move back to Oakland, though they would eventually move to Las Vegas. The Rams are/were a different gridiron football team.
The manga series Eyeshield 21 is pretty good and its about football. XD
Also you live in Washington?
The odds favor the house is a general gambling term. People gamble on football.
I think the "poker" reference is supposed to be just a generic gambling reference... just poorly done.
NFL Superpro Marvel Legend action figure when?
I think I'd try a football/sports comic set in one fo the major superhero universes, but I think I'd prefer if they do it a bit more like anime/manga sports and just exaggerate the visuals for an actual game. It could be cool to see a Metropolis Sharks series where they have some long forgotten side character get drafted and we see Superman stuff from the POV of regular people. We could have Clark and Lois on dates in the stadium or have Lex in a "good guy" position as the teams backer. An issue could be about the players having to deal with Booster Gold's weird demands for endorsing the team or Parasite stalking a member and trying to absorb them to get "closer". Nowadays they could do it as one of those free digital comics.
It could work if they get the audience to care about the players as characters and have some light fun with the world without full on bringing them into the superhero life.
I don't think it's possible for anyone to claim the title of "lamest superhero ever" so long as US1 exists.
The saddest part was it was a punt not even a regular kick
Drop kick.
Eat your Flutie Flakes.
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Marvel threw Spider-man right under a bus
The way super pro talks makes me think if he ends up being a superhero whose real identity is a football player struggling with concussion and cannot control his power outside of specific types of movement (basically football). He has the power and strength to help people, but football has basically ruined him. But he continues because of the ridiculous culture and for his fans, the world basically set up a false image of him that forces him to continue down a path that is bad. He eventually have to find a way to move on as a hero on his own rather than tied by the bounds of the industry, and become an advocate for safety and support for athletes when he is in his secret identity.
The more I think the plot gets better. Super pro will literally have to confront the dilemma of having to decide between living his dream or achieve his goal of helping and inspiring people, to his bread and butter which is a horrible football team.
I read Superpro. I'm not even a fan of football, but I actually enjoyed the series.
The art looks pretty good
20:57 Wow he is so bored from reading the horrible comic that he forgot to bleep the curse word
A "special edition" one shot origin issue proceeded Superpro #1: it was just as bad as this one.
Better Spider-man joke. "Please tell me you're just out hunting wabbits." "No? Duck season already?"
I was 15 in 1991 and Marvel had sucked me in with "the Death of Iron Man", not long before. Lame a.f., that Super Pro. But dude, good work keeping on it till you got a good kick. A better showing than the NFL had in comics. Proud of you, nerd boy.