you're not kidding, when I went Yugoslavia in the '70s with my parents, everyone was driving these little shttboxes, I was just a skinny kid, and even I found them unconformable.
Robots are going to take all easy high paying jobs, minorities will be blamed by those lazy rationalizations .. meanwhile robots take their wives too. Lol, long TSLA.
America can't do noting for lazy people. People came here from other countries with noting and became millionaires. People who r lazy and only want to live on food stamps. Noone can help
Also in a country that mainly uses cars you’ll get ridiculed for using public transportation cause you are “poor”. We are one weird country but I love it lol
@@Cinnamontoastcrunch1029 plus your public transportation sucks ass man, kinda sad that “the greatest nation on earth” has a worse public transport than some african nations
@@spectrent yeah we do have really bad public transport, but I feel like it’s because we don’t really need it. Most primates lost the ability to produce vitamin c because one of our ancestors had a rare mutation causing his body to not produce vitamin c, but he/she survived since he/she ate fruit fulfilling their vitamin c necessities, thus spreading his genes onto his kids and then their kids etc. Same thing with us Americans. We had decent public transport but as it started to get worse we never noticed the difference cause we used our vehicles to travel. Only residents of a couple of cities actually need good public transport but the rest of us don’t.
@@spectrent I still kinda think we are a really good country. At least my state is I don’t know about as a whole. However I feel like everyone hates us without realizing that a lot of stuff they use was possible because of Americans. “If the u.s never existed the world would be a better place”. It would be the opposite in my opinion. Anyways it’s my right to believe that this is the greatest country. I feel like most people who hate this country have never visited cause I usually here positive notes from people who went on vacation here. Only bad places really are like L.A and Detroit.
@froobtoob! Nor have I from my 2014 500L Trekking! But my daughter's 2014 Lounge was declared a lemon and purchased back by FCA. See my comment in here.
@@MrKozanitis that's ridiculous, this is a painful bias in the north American psyche. Yet in Europe they sold 750,000 units this year. But I love it when people who drive Dodge, Ram, Jeep etc bag on FIAT... I'm all, " you know, FIAT owns your truck/jeep, that makes you less than a FIAT owner. You're driving FIATs b*tch ride."
froobtoob I am European (half Italian, half Greek); and since I was 19 yrs old a U.S. Resident first and now citizen. In my 72 so far years I have bought 42 cars in four continents. My 1976 FIAT 124 was probably one of my best, although a formidable gas guzzler in a country (Italy) that has the highest prices in gas in Europe (taxes!); the other country, Greece, where I have shipped (from the States) my '16 JGC Overland Trail Rated has the second highest prices! I love my Overland as I do a lot of off-roading there; and here in Atlanta, GA, I enjoy my 2020 JGC Trailhawk even more! The lesson: no first-Year models, and meticulously following the manufacturer's recommended maintenance!
@@MrKozanitis oh totally, I'm changing my oil every 7,000 km because I can and it's relatively cheap. I should have had my boots checked about 30k km ago (eek) but no rattles and it's still holding a straight line and no deviation from straight. I'm satisfied.
froobtoob nice to know! Question: I guess by boots you mean tires? (I doubt you mean "boot" as in "trunk"). I see you mention kms; are you in Canada or...?
@@blackshadow7192 There are plenty of crowded cities but only the US really has those large expanses of suburban and urban areas where buying a house you can't afford it is the norm. There's a culture around living in excess if you can't afford it; food, housing, cars. I'm honestly surprised someone hasn't tried to bring back the Hummer.
I love my Fiat 500 and am infuriated by how impossible it is to find a small roadster / city car in the United States. I hate the big-fat-SUVs for big-fat-Americans. Can’t stand SUVs!!!
@@seanwieland9763 Fiats are simply crap cars and 500 is among the crappiest, they hardly sell anywhere. Great visual design though. I wish some proper car manufacturer from Japan or Korea would steal both exterior and interior.
I'm 6', almost 200 lbs and fit into them. Well, not the back seat but the front ones. But I found the shifter in the wrong place, and the 1.4 turbo requires premium gas. Fiat has the chronically unwanted 1.4 turbo that they won't retire or rebadge, they have this European arrogance they ca impose their superior product and we will like it. It's not working for them.
@@faith223 - it's just what you're used to, same with Mac / PC. I've learned Macs at work, but I'm still more comfortable on a PC. Apple has great products, it's just not worth the money for me.
Toyota don’t cost much either, and you don’t have to repair them so long as you don’t do anything stupid. Italian cars are rolling piles of entropy, which is a shame because they’re such beautiful and fun cars.
William Griffith I bought a 2012 challenger SRT8 Best car I’ve ever owned as it was very reliable and comfortable and not to mention fast as hell with a 392 hemp under the hood
Chrysler is doing pretty well. Jeeps and Rams are selling like hotcakes. Their vehicles are just as reliable as Toyota -- if not more -- since Toyota is now using Nissan (Jatco) CVTs in their small cars/crossovers, plus their 4 cylinder engines have consumed oil for some time. OTOH, Chrysler's 2.4L, 3.6L, 5.7L and 6.4L engines plus their 4, 6, 8 and 9 speed transmissions are solid.
Fiats did earn a reputation for poor quality back in the 70s. From what I have researched, there were problems with substandard steel and more significantly with labour unrest and agitation in the Turin plants. The Fiat of today is a totally different company. The only issues I had with mine were breaking of some interior plastics (supposedly an issue only through 2013 models) and two broken window regulator clips. I also had to replace an engine coolant thermostat. There were no issues with anything in the powertrain. It ran like a champ, day in and day out and it let me save a LOT of money on gasoline.
@Zack Smith yeah, they have quite good engines with low emission ratings and low fuel consumption. At least they are much eco friendlier as the typical full size suv.
They’re unreliable and cost way too much to get to even 100k. Honda and Toyota still sell small cars here, the only difference being that those will make it to 150-200k trouble free
@Zack Smith the 2009 Toyota Prius has the same mpg rating as the 500, but sure, that's "not eco friendly at all" stop using computers, they are also not eco friendly at all
Ive had my 2013 Fiat 500 Abarth for over 3 years now. 50k later and still no issues. Extremely reliable. Just did the timing, tensioner and water pump. Now at 120k. Still a fun fast little car to drive.
I got rid of my Abarth a few days ago. It was a fun car, but it was falling apart on me. It depreciated so much, I still owed over 3k on the loan compared to the best offer I received. I ended up getting a Civic Si sedan, and would never buy another Fiat again.
no they are not. If you drive any serious distances say 50-200 miles per day trust me, the bigger the tires and suspension, the better on your back and ass it is.
Buy the Mazda Miata? It is an extremely reliable sports car. The Fiat version that Mazda makes for Fiat has engine issues as they put in a FIat engine.
Unfortunately America isn't ready for small cars. They love big cars that are junk and only last 5 years. America only cares about themselves and their big everything
@Tar Uggo They also sell 100x more cars than Fiat can dream of. All the complaints are for the 500 too.... Fiat is just junk dude, no one wants that crap.
All car manufacturers have adopted toyota's quality philosophy. However it was really Ford who started it. Many safety features you find in cars today have its roots in Ford's safety programs. Toyota's quality is based on the 5S system which is now used by all. Unfortunately no matter how well the cars are made, the neglect, lack of proper maintenance and abuse will take its toll. People simply don't know how or lack the time to fo maintenance. Airplanes, firetrucks, ambulances, police cars are maintained on a regular basis. The rack up thousands of miles with no problems.
@@stichy420 , take another look. Take a test drive. If you can't handle a woman, you can't handle a Fiat. Compare the driving feel to other cars. You will love it.
Toyota succeeded because of Total Quality Management. Nobody has replicated it to match their success. But even companies like Ben & Jerry's strive to implement it. I know because my dad was a plant manager of their 2nd plant for many years.
Make great reliable cars at an affordable price whilst still manufacturing in Japanese and American soil; then get rewarded for it from the American public.
Michael X Exactly. Recall when Ford said they are pulling their sedan vehicles here in the US, everyone freaked. Yet Toyota and Honda, even Kia/Hyundai sell their sedans like hotcakes. Nobody wanted a Ford Focus lol.
Exactly! I wanted to buy a Fiat 500 because my Suburban only gets 14 mpg and I live 30 minutes out of town, so it would be a nice go to work car. Then I started reading about their reliability and decided against it.
Honda and Toyota are playing the long game. Even though the compact car market is weak in N. America right now, they know that at some point, gas prices will rise, and people will be sick of their gas guzzling SUVs, so Honda and Toyota will be ready to sell their compacts and subcompacts (Civic, Fit, Corolla, Yaris). Plus they have that advantage of having long running nameplates well known for reliability, simplicity and economy (Civic and Corolla have been around in the USA since the 70s and 60s respectively)
I switched to a small car because I live in NYC where street parking is virtually non-existent. I love my 500 Pop. My neighbors in their big SUV's, circling the block for an hour trying to find parking, they hate me lol.
@@michaelconlin5614 The Jeep Renegade makes both the 500L and the 500X obsolete. Hell, at times they all basically compete with each other, but Jeep in the end cannibalized Fiat's sales.
Until my 500 got hit and totaled, I absolutely loved it. I still miss it. It was fun to drive and got me 46 mpg if I drove it carefully. The stick shift was fun and let me get every ounce of performance out of the otherwise weak 101 HP engine. It was too small for long family trips but a perfrct vehicle for commuting and errands. The thing I really miss is being able to squeeze this thing into ANY available pa4king slot. If you do buy one, avoid the earliest models (through 2013) as there were some quality bugs to iron out (I had to replace both window regulators within a few months of one another). But like I say, this car was FUN. It met my first rule of driving. "A car should never be boring."
The classical FIAT 500 in the Sixties had a 2-cylinder and 25 HP engine. Perfect for commuters, youngsters and ladies throughout all Italian towns. A 101 HP engine for the current FIAT 500 should be largely sufficient: if Americans do not appreciate saving money and gasoline, it is a pity. The Planet is one and CO2 now is over 400 ppm. Indeed, I appreciate your point.
@@fabianomiceli6896 The original 500 also weighed about 500 kilos. I suppose that if you appreciate having little-to-no-safety (because well, all that safety stuff is what keeps the modern cars heavy), be my guest.
@Sebastian Hellie hopefully hers will not break and the window fall down into the door whilst she is driving 70 miles an hour on a cold January morning when the temperature is hovering right around freezing like mine did. The drive home with the window wide open and the heater blaring at full blast in a vain effort to stay warm was NOT pleasant in the least 😁
@peggy cook Same here. Abarth 500. MOST People calling junk Never seen one OR Know Anyone Who has one. They Only sold 5,000 cars in USA Last Year. So, Most haters never saw one & they're "Bandwagoners". They ALL only know The same (1) Joke. Shows Stupidity.
Same here! Actually Fiats are very good nowadays. For example, the Fiat Ducato has been a very popular RV platform since the beginning. In Europe, about two-thirds of RVs are built on the Ducato platform.. I have had Fiat 500X for 5years now without a problem. People are saying Fiat is bad but I assume they never had one..
From the people that said ford meant Fix Or Repair Daily. Or as we say in England, Found On a Rubbish Dump. A lot of fords here were built in Dagenham, so we all call them Dagenham Dustbins. Another classic British car was the LOTUS. Loads Of Trouble, Usually Serious.
What about the Junk Ford Pinto American car? What happened with the first Fiat is that at that time there weren't that many Fiat dealers and repair shops and people just messed them up trying to maneuver a stick shift transmission they weren't use to. In Italy they were reliable.
It's not because of that. Cars and Cross Overs practically have the same MPG unlike the old days. They even safer than cars because no they are more high up.
The Chrysler dealerships were more interested in selling high margin products such as jeeps and ram trucks. Small cars are low margin. Not the brand's fault.Quality is on par with the best.
@@sammolloy1 , should have bought one as a collector car. In a few years you will see the value appreciate. The original 500 now selling on average 32 k in good condition.
Actually Fiats are very good nowadays. For example, the Fiat Ducato has been a very popular RV platform since the beginning. In Europe, about two-thirds of RVs are built on the Ducato platform.. I have had Fiat 500X for 5years now without a problem. You are saying Fiat is bad but I assume you never had one..
I drive a Fiat and I love my little guy. It is the perfect size for me. I have never had any issues with my car. I have owned a Pontiac Vibe and it's has had tons of maintenance with it.
@@Plumber1111 yeah I agree with you fiats are nice when you have plenty of time and money to throw before fiats breaking down wasn't that big of a problem but that was because they were easy to repair it's not like that anymore lol
Funny how CNBC fails to mention that Fiat is selling their commercial vehicles as RAM ProMaster and ProMaster city (Ducato and Doblo) and those are selling pretty good...
I own a Fiat. Love? Far from it! Transmission went out days after the warranty. Fiat would not make it right. And there are many more out there with the same issue. Hate my Fiat. Cost more to fix than it was worth.
We have 2012 Fiat 500 Sport and all we did since then until now was oil, filters, tires and breaks. My wife loves it. We also have Mercedes GL 450 that constantly needs to see mechanic.
@@LuizSMatos-dr9tz There are many cars here which are the size of a Fiat 500 or smaller. These sell well because people, particularly women, like them!
Paul Williams I just can’t agree with that. A fast, small car is great for every day use. It’s something you have to do to get it. Even more so if you have a lot of curves or mild traffic.
I just bought a 2013 Abarth and it’s perfect for me. Sounds like a beast and scoots pretty good too. First Fiat bought it for only $7700 with 51k miles. No issues so far... also own a 2017 Fiesta ST I’m attempting to sell.
I know! and the Abarths are so hard to find too, was hoping they would begin to import the facelifted Abarths like the 595 or the 695 biposto, those are amazing! but now they might be stop importing all of them :/ my advice is hold onto your Abarth, they might go up in value :)
Piano Fry u wud be surprised that toyotas n hondas have opened quite a few factories in US. GM on the other hand are moving to mexico or china. So in a way, the japanese carmakers r more american than the actual american carmakers.
How reliable is it? I was looking to get a used 500L as my first car because I really liked the see-through A pillar, but the biggest issue for me was reliability; I needed a car that’ll run another 200k miles or so.
@@angellockridge8772 Then run away from it. A fiat doing 200,000 miles is about as likely to happen as a pig flying. Fiat always have been unreliable junk and earned themselves the name Fix it again Toni for a reason.
@@Michael-eg3hc only in North America, because the local protectionism doesn't allow the best cars out there to enter the market. Nowhere else in the world prople buy this garbage.
I have a 2013 500 turbo . I love this car , I sold my MDX . Easy finding parking , extremely economical on gas . Yes it's small , my Harley road King is slightly bigger. Lol
In Canada, the Fiat 500 was an initial 6 months buzz. After that 6 months, the only thing you hear about is: Always broken, the dealership pushes the blame on the owner, no parts available at Carquest, Napa, etc... They built an Electric Fiat 500, Fiat realized they will not do profit and told people not to buy it. Now, it's rare to see one on the street and used car dealers are stuck with them.
It may help that in Europe there are other models than the 500. If Fiat cared they would sell the Tipo, Strada, Punto and Panda in the States or maybe advertise them.
They would not work in U.S. Only model that would work is Tipo. Punto is too cheap, Panda is nice but too old now and Strada is not even sold in Europe.
@@fairlifemilk3533 when u have the experience he has over the years. then u can talk. he is not wrong about these vehicles. he was working on these cars from the first time they left and now they are doing it again. yes he is not ALWAYS right of course but on this, yes he absolutely is.
@@gravemind6536 False. driven my abarth 40k miles, no issues of any form. Have an acquantance with 130k on his abarth, no issues either. The myth of fiat's poor reliability is as frustrating to an owner who hears nothing but "oh you're an idiot for buying that" as it likely is for fiat, who's honestly making very reliable vehicles.
The Abarth is actually reliable. Owned mine for three years now and not a single issue. I have talked to several Abarth owners that have said they have been reliable. I also own a 500x that has been very reliable.
@@Ag3nt0fCha0s In the US and Canada, FIAT = "Fix It Again Tony." The Ford F-150 is the biggest selling vehicle in the US and Canada. Ford does make a good truck.
@@Watcher3223 Fiat makes the Japanese cars look large. Fiats are adapted to the small, winding narrow roads and streets of Italy where they make perfect sense, they just don't in the US, I realized this when I was in Italy a couple of years ago, their native habitat. American cars there are like a bull in a jungle tangled up in vines.
@@Watcher3223 Toyota and Honda make small cars? That's news to me. Which car do they make that is 140 inches in length or smaller? Maybe it was a Corolla or Tercel from the 1980s...
@@philipgates988 its not the tariffs, we just don't make cars that are good for many markets. My friend had a f-150 in Germany and the UK and couldn't take it anywhere because it didn't fit in parking garages and it costs too much to fuel it.
Solution for FIAT..... 1) Forget about the 500 L 2) Create a 500 XL (larger 500 X) 3) Make the Abarth a TRUE ABARTH....MORE HP !!!! 4) Create a 4 door sedan that is a CIVIC, COROLLA KILLER FORZA ALFA BABY !!!!
They could do an Alfa Romeo like the old 155. An little sedan, a Premium one. Whit ALL the Alfa Romeos passion and an good engine. Looking like a little Giulia
I never got their strategy in the US... like, here in Brazil they're one of the top manufacturers and they actually sell pickup trucks and decently sized sedans... like, who thought it was a good idea to sell small cars in the United States?
Well, as they noted, gas prices were nearly at their peak price and there was an economic recession. I guess they thought Americans might be a bit wiser than we are. Clearly, 2016 demonstrated just how pathetic we are. (Of course, Brazil isn't all that great, either.) That said, I don't think the fuel efficiency of these smaller cars was _that_ much better than, say, a crossover. I Googled and it claimed the 2019 Fiat 500 gets 28 city / 33 highway. That's just not very impressive. Why get a Fiat when I can get a crossover that gets perhaps 23/28 mpg and allows me to fit all my garbage in my vehicle?
@@BakjeLeip Freemont I think it's called. Fiat group also sold the Chrysler 300 as a Lancia Thesis in Italy, but I think they stopped that now. It was only available with a V6 anyway so no loss lol
In India, Fiat engines are in entire Suzuki car range, they make good engines in 1.3 ltr category. Small and economical for Indian market.Suzuki is able to dominate the entire market because of fiat engines. Now these engines are in Tata, Jeep, MG and what not brands. I think they should focus on small and economical cars.
At least it's better than Seeing North Koreans in Famine way. (No offense to North Koreans, I hope they free but Americans ain't bad tho. One people hosted the Meme Review and launched the rocket and then lands.)
@Joe Casson that you know! America is one of if not the fattest country on the planet! You being around the 1/100 that aren't doesn't make null and void tge 99/100 that are!
I have owned several Fiats. As I do with all my cars, I drove them UNMERCIFULLY. They do require some maintenance BUT they are put together VERY WELL. The thing to know about Fiat and ALL Italian cars is; you buy an Italian car because you LIKE to drive and ALL Italian cars drive REALLY well. If it is a Fiat or a Ferrari, when you get out of the car you want to get back in and drive more. People who want a car as an appliance will NEVER understand this. Fiat is not for them.
It is a shame that more people do not see this. Unfortunately, people in the US want large boxes on wheels that simply move down the road. We are also a disposable culture, so people that means people(not all) do not take care of their stuff and simply throw it away when it breaks. I do not understand the reliability argument, regarding Fiats cause US brands have had horribly constructed products with many problems and recalls. The fact that the entire US auto industry nearly imploded a few years ago, is proof of this....cause during the recession, the more reliable brands were still holding on, as whatever market was left, was still buying from them.
It is struggling everywhere. Other companies buying fiat engines for their cars are successful but they themselves are not. Pathetic customer service, poor product development, poor service network are their problems in India at least.
So are fords and chevys.. FIAT owns many factories around the world do does VW. The fact that the 500 was assembled in Mexico does not make it a Mexican car. Citroen, the French car company makes cars in Portugal. They are very nice cars. Toyota, Mazda builds cars in the US. Nothing misleading. If you want a genuinely Italian built FIAT then go for the 500X or the Renegade. They are absolutely wonderful cars with great reliability, economy and character. Absolutely fun to drive. You will not be dissapointed.
@Mike Gunnerst , it does not matter where it is made. The design, the tooling snd materials are Italian. Only the labor is Mexican. Citroen has a big car factory in Portugal. CITROEN is French. Cars built in Mexico are very good quality.
I'm a mechanic, I love Fiat, always have. When they came back to the USA, I knew that sooner or later I would be able to afford a used model. Two years ago, I found a 2012 for $3,300. Would not go into 3rd, so it needed a new tranny and when you swap transmissions you always replace the clutch. The going price for a 2012, at that time, was $5,300. First thing I did was find a used tranny for $700. Next, the easy part was buying the clutch kit. Locally they wanted $900 to $1,100. I got on line and the lowest was $825. This was insane. What they wanted for just the kit was what you could have the entire job done for, on most cars. I then began looking at the price for other Fiat parts. All, exorbitant. BMW parts are less expensive. So much for owning a Fiat.
Any parts I have bought are all reasonable. Not sure what high priced sites your looking at. If you are a mechanic, you should have resale dealers with much lower prices than that. We are not mechanics and beating you in prices?
Because the Camry and Corolla are produced in massive numbers for a World market, so the overall cost to manufacture per car is lower. Fiat would also have to defray the cost of US compliance over many fewer cars. A common criticism the Toyota receives is they're bland and appliance like. If you want something that's more stylish and unique, then expect to pay more for it as it does cost more to make less.
The 500 is a luxury model in Fiat line. The Panda is the cheap one. But the Panda doesn't look as good as the 500 and tgey are afraid of japanese and korean competition.
I don't think fiat thinks it's much a big deal. They are still cashing in on jeep and ram. Either way Luigi is still making money. BTW love my 500 abarth.
@@zedtrek Pretty much same reasons. they dont have SUVs, or good range of sedans. They sell one hatchback and one sedan here in India, thats it. From the beginning. They were bound to fail.
@@dhaval1090 . Reason being they don't understand Indian likes.. they consider eu market and Indian as same. Its same problem for all western companies.
Enzo Ferrari and Gianni Agnelli drove FIATs. Michael Schumacher drove a FIAT. Sebastian Vettel, Felipe Massa, and Kimi Räikkönen, drive FIATs. The FIAT 500 is the first car that most Europeans own. Do Lancia Ypsilons sell in America? The city cars are very popular in Europe.
It's failing because many of us owned Fiats back in the 70s/80s! I owned a 79 Fiat X19. It was super cute and super raggedy! My mechanic asked me to buy another car. He hated working on it!
I've had no problem selling the half dozen 500's I have bought in the last 3 years to flip. Sure they sold better 5 years ago with $4 gas, but I remember you couldn't give a truck or SUV away either around that time. And the people who say it's too small probably have never sat in one themselves.
Andy the Cat They’re unreliable and cost way too much to get to even 100k. Honda and Toyota still sell small cars here, the only difference being that those will make it to 150-200k trouble free
@@andrewmclaughlin9951 Bull$hit , if you want a small car that will "ill make it to 150-200k trouble free", don't buy a Honda or Toyota ,as they are over rated junk !!!!
@@johnbelwell2461 i would rather have a high powered picnic table... The masion doesnt need to have wheels...truly yours A european living in Europe also.
MEXICO ....THEY BUILD.....TOYOTAS....NISSAN.... FORD....CHEVYS....VW... AND CHRISLER AND FIAT BY THE WAY A GOT A 500 NO PROBLEM AT ALL DRIVIN A 100 MILES A DAY.....FOR 2 YRS JUST OIL CHANGE.....AND GAS
I got a used 500 2012 with low mileage for cheap and it's been amazing for the city. Parts for it are dirt cheap. If you live where parking is tough and can be comfy in a tiny car, it's great.
Poor historical reliability (70's and 80's). For most Americans reliability is the number one priority. With poor public transit and the huge areas between many cities reliability has to be there. It's not uncommon for an American to do a 1000 mile/ 1600 km round trip road trip on a weekend. Most of that will be on highways with traffic going over 70 mph/ 115 kmph. You have to be reliable and have power to keep up on super highways to succeed in the USA market. Japanese and Korean small cars are doing just fine in the USA because they understand this.
I've always preferred to drive small cars, not the behemoths produced by the U.S. or imported from Japan. I'm on my third FIAT, the 500L model. Previously I owned 128 and X1/9 models. I've loved them all. It's sad to think that FIAT might give up the American market once more. I'll miss them if they leave.
Fiat 500, cute. Fiat 500L, excuse me while I vomit. Maybe if they're cars where all good looking. If you want a bigger car, make a different car, not a car 500 with a thyroid condition. Fiat Spider is the best looking Miata.
@@jnava1994 nah, that whole lineup is a total crap and a rip off internally. I can understand men who like how those cars look, but I can't understand those who _only_ care about the look of their car.
Too expensive, just like Mini and the Smart car. if the entry level 500 costed about the same as other cars in it's segment ($13000), it would sell better.
@@gsilva220 I think that you don't actual understands the economics of automobiles. Although it is ALMOST possible to have a new $13k car, it's not possible to have a new $13k car with the powertrain the 500 has. That they can make a $15k car like the 500 is somewhat amazing. After a retune, my entry level, manual transmission Pop drives like all of hell is chasing it.
@Jody Owen I do think Sedans , and cars are just as comfortable. Besides they give better mileage , lesser material usage - that adds up to being more environment friendly in the long run. American as a consumer is setting a bad example. Their obsessions with bigger vehicles have changed the auto industry even influencing other nations - as everywhere people are tempted to buy larger vehicles. Seriously, I do dig the concept of SUVs with extrme off-road capabilities, stronger chassis, their 4 wheel drive , differential lock feature . But crossovers - I feel are the most pointless category of vehicle- chassis of a sedan with looks of an SUV. Also why USA don't have railroads. Railroads are one of the most economic means of transportation and also the fastest. Americans burn more fuel in consumer transportation than any other countries.
@Fred Jansen That's false Macho. These Crossovers have the same weak chassis of a Sedan inside. It's just like the chicken from Chicken Farm obnoxiously obese but not as nutritious.
Fiats are just the wrong kind of car for the US. A 500 is the perfect kind of car if you're living in Italy or Europe and you need something small and nimble that can handle the tight spaces and windy roads they have there. It doesn't matter if you have a 1.4L engine, because you aren't going to be cruising at 55-80 mph for hours on end. Most of the driving in Europe is at speeds of 40 mph or less and less than an hour away. I drove a Fiat Tipo (similar to a VW Golf) rental car when I was in Germany and honestly, that car felt big for most of the streets, roads and parking lots. I almost felt like I needed something smaller. Conversely, I drove a Fiat 500 rental car in the US and it was just terrible. The engine was downshifting all the time, every pothole felt 5x bigger than it actually was and I had no space for anything more than a few small items. Not too mention the poor acceleration. And the fuel mileage wasn't even that much better than I'd get driving a Ford Fusion (/Mondeo). It did reasonably well in the city, aside from all the bumps and potholes it slammed into. I can't say how well it would do in 6+ inches of snow and ice since I only drove it in summer, but I know I'd want to update my life insurance policy before the first snowfall. Honestly, the Fiat 500 is a very niche car in the US. It might make sense in the older cities of America and Canada but for most of America, it's just woefully incapable of being a good general purpose daily driver.
Fiat wants to be a niche brand like Mini is, not a mainstream brand. That's why Fiat sells some of their mainstream models as Dodges in Mexico, and if Fiat wants to sell cars like that stateside they're gonna sell them with Dodge badges and grilles.
One of the big reasons small cars don't do well here is because Americans do so much highway travel. Small cars are not fun on long trips and are scary when everything else on the road is gigantic and can crush you like an egg. I think it's sad they might pull the Fiat brand out of the market, it just means less choice for the consumer.
The Fiat 500 is just too small. I had a 2011 Ford Fiesta and the ride quality was amazing for a sub-compact. My 2012 Ford Focus was great on the highway. Small cars today aren't like the tinny, under powered small cars of the 1980's & 1990's.
The real reason they fail in America: the average American weighs more than a Fiat 500.
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you're not kidding, when I went Yugoslavia in the '70s with my parents, everyone was driving these little shttboxes, I was just a skinny kid, and even I found them unconformable.
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This could be a 5 second video just with a sentence:
" Americans wont fit in a Fiat. "
They need to supersize the cup holders
@@SimonKanner-si3it no one talked about Brits
A fiat is smaller than a cheese burger.
Meanwhile, a Fiat can fit inside an American
Americans are not obese.
Most of us are just "pleasantly plump."
More to love!
Can you do an episode of why I'm struggling in the US?
Because US has been overtaken by financial elites decades before you were born
Because everyone struggles in life, including in the US. Life is not easy and has never been easy, and will never be easy.
Robots are going to take all easy high paying jobs, minorities will be blamed by those lazy rationalizations .. meanwhile robots take their wives too. Lol, long TSLA.
Come work in Brazil and be successful making a Thousand dollars a month where the Iphone X cost 1500 usd a Fiat 500L 32 grand hahaha
America can't do noting for lazy people. People came here from other countries with noting and became millionaires. People who r lazy and only want to live on food stamps. Noone can help
In a country where everyone drives a big car and you drive a small one, you are discriminated.
Also in a country that mainly uses cars you’ll get ridiculed for using public transportation cause you are “poor”. We are one weird country but I love it lol
@@Cinnamontoastcrunch1029 plus your public transportation sucks ass man, kinda sad that “the greatest nation on earth” has a worse public transport than some african nations
@@spectrent yeah we do have really bad public transport, but I feel like it’s because we don’t really need it. Most primates lost the ability to produce vitamin c because one of our ancestors had a rare mutation causing his body to not produce vitamin c, but he/she survived since he/she ate fruit fulfilling their vitamin c necessities, thus spreading his genes onto his kids and then their kids etc. Same thing with us Americans. We had decent public transport but as it started to get worse we never noticed the difference cause we used our vehicles to travel. Only residents of a couple of cities actually need good public transport but the rest of us don’t.
@@spectrent I still kinda think we are a really good country. At least my state is I don’t know about as a whole. However I feel like everyone hates us without realizing that a lot of stuff they use was possible because of Americans. “If the u.s never existed the world would be a better place”. It would be the opposite in my opinion. Anyways it’s my right to believe that this is the greatest country. I feel like most people who hate this country have never visited cause I usually here positive notes from people who went on vacation here. Only bad places really are like L.A and Detroit.
@@Cinnamontoastcrunch1029 half of new yorkers cant drive
Love my Fiat 500L and still wondering where these reliability issues are. Five years and nearly 100,000 miles later still runs like a dream.
Lmao
Try twice that 100k miles is nothing
Just because you didn’t deal with it, doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen to people ffs
Reason: Scotty Kilmer and his 94 Celica
Scotty who? ??
HEINRICXVI you poor man :(
LMAO lol
Yes!!
scotty doesn't know
I've put 75k km on my fiat 500L and have only changed oil and tires. I've no complaints.
@froobtoob! Nor have I from my 2014 500L Trekking! But my daughter's 2014 Lounge was declared a lemon and purchased back by FCA. See my comment in here.
@@MrKozanitis that's ridiculous, this is a painful bias in the north American psyche. Yet in Europe they sold 750,000 units this year. But I love it when people who drive Dodge, Ram, Jeep etc bag on FIAT... I'm all, " you know, FIAT owns your truck/jeep, that makes you less than a FIAT owner. You're driving FIATs b*tch ride."
froobtoob I am European (half Italian, half Greek); and since I was 19 yrs old a U.S. Resident first and now citizen. In my 72 so far years I have bought 42 cars in four continents. My 1976 FIAT 124 was probably one of my best, although a formidable gas guzzler in a country (Italy) that has the highest prices in gas in Europe (taxes!); the other country, Greece, where I have shipped (from the States) my '16 JGC Overland Trail Rated has the second highest prices! I love my Overland as I do a lot of off-roading there; and here in Atlanta, GA, I enjoy my 2020 JGC Trailhawk even more!
The lesson: no first-Year models, and meticulously following the manufacturer's recommended maintenance!
@@MrKozanitis oh totally, I'm changing my oil every 7,000 km because I can and it's relatively cheap. I should have had my boots checked about 30k km ago (eek) but no rattles and it's still holding a straight line and no deviation from straight. I'm satisfied.
froobtoob nice to know! Question: I guess by boots you mean tires? (I doubt you mean "boot" as in "trunk"). I see you mention kms; are you in Canada or...?
SUVs are dominating the US market. It feels like the 2000s all over again
But today's SUVs are simply much better! More efficient, more practical, cleaner,...
@@TheSultan1470 however they all look the same and they dont even try to market to men
Well, crossovers are and the 500X is probably their only hope
@@dominicdelgado1654 What
Just wait something might make gass prices sky high lol
100% of the failure is due to the U.S being the wrong market for that tiny car. & they merged with Chrysler, who had many failed mergers already...
I'm always surprised to see small cars not selling in the US, I mean there are plenty of US cities that are crowded and where traffic is a nightmare.
Chrysler's small car the Dodge Dart was a failure
@@blackshadow7192 There are plenty of crowded cities but only the US really has those large expanses of suburban and urban areas where buying a house you can't afford it is the norm. There's a culture around living in excess if you can't afford it; food, housing, cars. I'm honestly surprised someone hasn't tried to bring back the Hummer.
I love my Fiat 500 and am infuriated by how impossible it is to find a small roadster / city car in the United States. I hate the big-fat-SUVs for big-fat-Americans. Can’t stand SUVs!!!
@@seanwieland9763 Fiats are simply crap cars and 500 is among the crappiest, they hardly sell anywhere.
Great visual design though. I wish some proper car manufacturer from Japan or Korea would steal both exterior and interior.
With 38% of the population being obese ( fact) and another 30% being over weight (fact), 68% of the buyers pool, simply cannot fit in the 500.
Very true lol
It's exactly what I was thinking when watching the video.
I'm 6', almost 200 lbs and fit into them. Well, not the back seat but the front ones. But I found the shifter in the wrong place, and the 1.4 turbo requires premium gas. Fiat has the chronically unwanted 1.4 turbo that they won't retire or rebadge, they have this European arrogance they ca impose their superior product and we will like it. It's not working for them.
or because fiats end in the junk yard after 2 weeks
I weigh 280 pounds and I fit just fine
Replace the Fiat Logo with an Apple logo on it and ka-ching !!!!
Maybe that's the solution! 😁
Yup. Because the prestige of a brand name will make people buy anything.
yea americans are so idiot gonna buy imediatly
Benjamin this is a funny comment even though i have iPhone, I don’t like android, it feels weird to me + iMessage is good, all my friends use that.
@@faith223 - it's just what you're used to, same with Mac / PC. I've learned Macs at work, but I'm still more comfortable on a PC. Apple has great products, it's just not worth the money for me.
I love mine. I travel everywhere and its doesn't cost much for repairs
Are you repairing your car frequently
Toyota don’t cost much either, and you don’t have to repair them so long as you don’t do anything stupid. Italian cars are rolling piles of entropy, which is a shame because they’re such beautiful and fun cars.
@@stoneylonesome4062 Doesnt apply always however people have different experiences.
I'm 40 years old and Chrysler has been failing the whole time
That’s true. But Gm Chevrolet moving manufacturing to Mexico and China is also very bad
William Griffith I bought a 2012 challenger SRT8
Best car I’ve ever owned as it was very reliable and comfortable and not to mention fast as hell with a 392 hemp under the hood
@@SilverScarletSpider GM quality to begin with was not the best. And now that they are moving to China will probably make it worse.
@@dondressel4802 Still driving my 2005 SRT-4 with 170,000 miles on it. I only wish Dodge would reintroduce it.
Chrysler is doing pretty well. Jeeps and Rams are selling like hotcakes. Their vehicles are just as reliable as Toyota -- if not more -- since Toyota is now using Nissan (Jatco) CVTs in their small cars/crossovers, plus their 4 cylinder engines have consumed oil for some time. OTOH, Chrysler's 2.4L, 3.6L, 5.7L and 6.4L engines plus their 4, 6, 8 and 9 speed transmissions are solid.
"That legendary Fiat reliability!" ....said no one ever.
These cars are quite reliable today. With construction almost completely robotized, there is not much to go wrong with them.
lol
Yes.
Fiat is very popular in Europe with quality on par with the best.
Fiats did earn a reputation for poor quality back in the 70s. From what I have researched, there were problems with substandard steel and more significantly with labour unrest and agitation in the Turin plants.
The Fiat of today is a totally different company. The only issues I had with mine were breaking of some interior plastics (supposedly an issue only through 2013 models) and two broken window regulator clips. I also had to replace an engine coolant thermostat. There were no issues with anything in the powertrain. It ran like a champ, day in and day out and it let me save a LOT of money on gasoline.
Most Americans don't want a small eco-friendly car. They want a big, massive suv to drive to the "save the rainforest" event...
@Zack Smith typical SUV or pickup struggles to get 20 mpg, Fiat 500 easily gets over 40mpg; for ICE car that's eco-friendly
@Zack Smith yeah, they have quite good engines with low emission ratings and low fuel consumption. At least they are much eco friendlier as the typical full size suv.
They’re unreliable and cost way too much to get to even 100k. Honda and Toyota still sell small cars here, the only difference being that those will make it to 150-200k trouble free
@Zack Smith the 2009 Toyota Prius has the same mpg rating as the 500, but sure, that's "not eco friendly at all"
stop using computers, they are also not eco friendly at all
@@erebostd bem! They only make sense in Italy not in a country as big as the entire Europe.
Ive had my 2013 Fiat 500 Abarth for over 3 years now. 50k later and still no issues. Extremely reliable. Just did the timing, tensioner and water pump. Now at 120k. Still a fun fast little car to drive.
SUV'S are popular now until the bubble bursts.
Carlos Malave There is no bubble to burst. Its only going to get better, forever and always!
@@whitemailprivilege2830 ----Ignorance is bliss.
That is the new American car
@@Cre8Lounge Until the "next best thing" shows up
@🔴Warped🔴 just like Jesus!!!
Affordable??? That little 500 new is more then 20k new better off getting a Toyota corolla
A used one at that!
That's true! In Mexico, we pay fuel $4 per gallon, have european-like streets... and FIAT is doing bad here also.
The one ur talking about is a ABARTH 500 not a fiat 500
BULLZ EYE 17k then plus whatever tax you have to pay thats really close to 20k then just to get it on the stupid road lol
Really? That seems steep.
Maybe the more powerful Abarth version?
Here in EU they're low 10's
Maybe import duties has something to do with it.
I've talked to people who own them and like them and the one who own the Abarth love it. I always liked driving small cars. They are fun.
The electric one is the best.
I got rid of my Abarth a few days ago. It was a fun car, but it was falling apart on me. It depreciated so much, I still owed over 3k on the loan compared to the best offer I received. I ended up getting a Civic Si sedan, and would never buy another Fiat again.
no they are not. If you drive any serious distances say 50-200 miles per day trust me, the bigger the tires and suspension, the better on your back and ass it is.
@@Y10Q you got that right !
Nicholas Littlejohn Fiats are ugly, poorly made, and unreliable as hell. Never will understand why anyone would want to buy one
Fiats are beautiful. I want one of those roadsters! I can fit into it just fine. Dear Fiat, please don’t leave the USA. 😘
Fiats are over priced and poor quality. Hondas are where its at.
Toyota is where it's at!!!
Buy the Mazda Miata? It is an extremely reliable sports car. The Fiat version that Mazda makes for Fiat has engine issues as they put in a FIat engine.
Unfortunately America isn't ready for small cars. They love big cars that are junk and only last 5 years. America only cares about themselves and their big everything
Why can’t American/European car makers take a hint from Toyota’s success? Consumers want reliability!
It's also the fact my boat of a Camry gets the same gas mileage as this skate with a couple doors.
@Tar Uggo They also sell 100x more cars than Fiat can dream of. All the complaints are for the 500 too.... Fiat is just junk dude, no one wants that crap.
All car manufacturers have adopted toyota's quality philosophy. However it was really Ford who started it. Many safety features you find in cars today have its roots in Ford's safety programs. Toyota's quality is based on the 5S system which is now used by all. Unfortunately no matter how well the cars are made, the neglect, lack of proper maintenance and abuse will take its toll. People simply don't know how or lack the time to fo maintenance. Airplanes, firetrucks, ambulances, police cars are maintained on a regular basis. The rack up thousands of miles with no problems.
@@stichy420 , take another look. Take a test drive. If you can't handle a woman, you can't handle a Fiat. Compare the driving feel to other cars. You will love it.
Toyota succeeded because of Total Quality Management. Nobody has replicated it to match their success. But even companies like Ben & Jerry's strive to implement it. I know because my dad was a plant manager of their 2nd plant for many years.
Honda and Toyota small cars’ are NOT struggling! 🎤
Make great reliable cars at an affordable price whilst still manufacturing in Japanese and American soil; then get rewarded for it from the American public.
Michael X Exactly. Recall when Ford said they are pulling their sedan vehicles here in the US, everyone freaked. Yet Toyota and Honda, even Kia/Hyundai sell their sedans like hotcakes. Nobody wanted a Ford Focus lol.
Exactly! I wanted to buy a Fiat 500 because my Suburban only gets 14 mpg and I live 30 minutes out of town, so it would be a nice go to work car. Then I started reading about their reliability and decided against it.
Honda and Toyota are playing the long game. Even though the compact car market is weak in N. America right now, they know that at some point, gas prices will rise, and people will be sick of their gas guzzling SUVs, so Honda and Toyota will be ready to sell their compacts and subcompacts (Civic, Fit, Corolla, Yaris). Plus they have that advantage of having long running nameplates well known for reliability, simplicity and economy (Civic and Corolla have been around in the USA since the 70s and 60s respectively)
@@Gabez82 ford brand rep sucks, but also the focus is so dam plain looking. Why would anyone buy a car they clearly didnt put any effort into?
I switched to a small car because I live in NYC where street parking is virtually non-existent. I love my 500 Pop. My neighbors in their big SUV's, circling the block for an hour trying to find parking, they hate me lol.
Best environment for a 500. Smart buy.
They need to lower the price and increase quality.
@m p fiat is still bad quality!
@m p well not Japansese brands. American I can believe but not the Japanese.
@@carnivalwholesale9809... Or at least the French or German brands
I see lots of Renegades, would rather have a 500X or L. Built same plant
@@michaelconlin5614 The Jeep Renegade makes both the 500L and the 500X obsolete. Hell, at times they all basically compete with each other, but Jeep in the end cannibalized Fiat's sales.
me: *looks at Fiat 500*
me: *looks at the average American*
me: *looks at the Fiat 500 again*
hmmm....🤔🤔
Fiat: pls no my chassis wasn't designed for this
This basically sums it up better than the video did.
But lot of Americans are fit in a tiny Walmart scooter, why
Neo VeNoM - The average American can fit in a Fiat 500 easily. You must use a peculiar definition of “average.”
@@GH-oi2jf According to the CDC 75% of Americans are overweight. Hope that is not peculiar.
Until my 500 got hit and totaled, I absolutely loved it. I still miss it. It was fun to drive and got me 46 mpg if I drove it carefully. The stick shift was fun and let me get every ounce of performance out of the otherwise weak 101 HP engine. It was too small for long family trips but a perfrct vehicle for commuting and errands.
The thing I really miss is being able to squeeze this thing into ANY available pa4king slot.
If you do buy one, avoid the earliest models (through 2013) as there were some quality bugs to iron out (I had to replace both window regulators within a few months of one another).
But like I say, this car was FUN. It met my first rule of driving. "A car should never be boring."
Hit by what car?
The classical FIAT 500 in the Sixties had a 2-cylinder and 25 HP engine. Perfect for commuters, youngsters and ladies throughout all Italian towns. A 101 HP engine for the current FIAT 500 should be largely sufficient: if Americans do not appreciate saving money and gasoline, it is a pity. The Planet is one and CO2 now is over 400 ppm. Indeed, I appreciate your point.
@@fabianomiceli6896 The original 500 also weighed about 500 kilos. I suppose that if you appreciate having little-to-no-safety (because well, all that safety stuff is what keeps the modern cars heavy), be my guest.
@Sebastian Hellie hopefully hers will not break and the window fall down into the door whilst she is driving 70 miles an hour on a cold January morning when the temperature is hovering right around freezing like mine did. The drive home with the window wide open and the heater blaring at full blast in a vain effort to stay warm was NOT pleasant in the least 😁
hit by a prius, and the fiat was totally mangled
So a fiat is not reliable but a jeep with a fiat engine and everything else is!? That is weird...
stay away from french and italian cars.
they are real piece of junk
@@kavajamusic5411 an alfa romeo spider or fiat 124 are no junk my friend, they are a piece of art ...
@@BeNiceInfo Alfa Romeo was a great car before owned by Fiat. The last real Alfa was the 75.
All Fiat`s are junk.
@@kavajamusic5411 so ferrari, lamborghini, bugatti and all that stuff i junk? Goat
@@leonardom9190 reliability wise? Yup
I love my little Fiat 500. No maintenance problems and I've owned it for 7 years.
@peggy cook Same here. Abarth 500. MOST People calling junk Never seen one OR Know Anyone Who has one. They Only sold 5,000 cars in USA Last Year. So, Most haters never saw one & they're "Bandwagoners". They ALL only know The same (1) Joke. Shows Stupidity.
Same here! Actually Fiats are very good nowadays. For example, the Fiat Ducato has been a very popular RV platform since the beginning. In Europe, about two-thirds of RVs are built on the Ducato platform.. I have had Fiat 500X for 5years now without a problem. People are saying Fiat is bad but I assume they never had one..
@@len-zeplin480 its still an ugly overpriced car.
@@Mara941 people in the comments are complaining because they use to own a fiat and it's low quality
liar
Remember back in the 70's they were called Fix It Again Tony F.I.A.T. acronymn.
'Fix It Again Tomorrow' is more accurate. Not everybody called Tony owns a Feeart, whatever one of them is!
Thank You!!
Someone at Consumer Reports said BMW stands for Break My Wallet.
From the people that said ford meant Fix Or Repair Daily. Or as we say in England, Found On a Rubbish Dump. A lot of fords here were built in Dagenham, so we all call them Dagenham Dustbins.
Another classic British car was the LOTUS. Loads Of Trouble, Usually Serious.
What about the Junk Ford Pinto American car? What happened with the first Fiat is that at that time there weren't that many Fiat dealers and repair shops and people just messed them up trying to maneuver a stick shift transmission they weren't use to. In Italy they were reliable.
Americans want big ass SuV like fuel guzzling cars. Small economical cars won't work in the US
Toyota sells about 300k Corollas a year, so the small car market isn't dead yet.
@@spazzman90 the Camry and corolla sells well but he's got a point.
@@spazzman90 the Corolla isn't exactly a "small" car tbh .. but you aren't wrong bru
It's not because of that. Cars and Cross Overs practically have the same MPG unlike the old days. They even safer than cars because no they are more high up.
Or because Fiat is junk
Fiat is failing because the dealerships overpriced a car that is of poor quality. Duh, I wonder why they aren’t selling?
Kevin K When the dealer in Louisville folded they were giving great deals. Like 13K for the base and 17 for an Abarth.
The Chrysler dealerships were more interested in selling high margin products such as jeeps and ram trucks. Small cars are low margin. Not the brand's fault.Quality is on par with the best.
@@sammolloy1 , should have bought one as a collector car. In a few years you will see the value appreciate. The original 500 now selling on average 32 k in good condition.
@@berniediapersanderslukso9204 that car is quite old and iconic. Of course they are quite valuable.
Actually Fiats are very good nowadays. For example, the Fiat Ducato has been a very popular RV platform since the beginning. In Europe, about two-thirds of RVs are built on the Ducato platform.. I have had Fiat 500X for 5years now without a problem. You are saying Fiat is bad but I assume you never had one..
I drive a Fiat and I love my little guy. It is the perfect size for me. I have never had any issues with my car. I have owned a Pontiac Vibe and it's has had tons of maintenance with it.
same, FIAT 500L BEEN AWESOME FOR YEARS .. MY GM PRODUCT = THOUSAND AFTER THOUSAND IN REPAIR ..
American cars are really awful, cheap feeling and underpowered for the engine sizes
My fiat engine blew up when I was driving
You must not drive all that much. My co worker had a fiat, engine had to be replaced at 12,000 miles
@@Plumber1111 yeah I agree with you fiats are nice when you have plenty of time and money to throw before fiats breaking down wasn't that big of a problem but that was because they were easy to repair it's not like
that anymore lol
Funny how CNBC fails to mention that Fiat is selling their commercial vehicles as RAM ProMaster and ProMaster city (Ducato and Doblo) and those are selling pretty good...
The Renegade and new Compass are Fiat made Jeeps and are selling well.
@@markg7030 both crap
@@christopherd6399 Only thing that makes GM look good, "CRYsler"
@Cameron Barton Not everyone wants to drive a car to the end like Scotty Kilmer. Lease deals on these cars are good.
Fiat USA Since 1983
In my city, I’m starting to see them everywhere.
Turkey?
Bought at online auction, crashed or ruined?
Rome?
Torino! 😂
Netherlands?
People who own Fiats love them. I have owned 2 of them, they have charm and so far have been reliable.
I know a few that hated them so much they traded for something "better" in less than a year. FIAT's name doesn't resonate well with many US people.
@@meabob Not everyone was meant to drive a stylish fun car...some people are happy with boring, common hondas.
I had my turbo pop tuned to just under 200HP. Omg I love it.
I own a Fiat. Love? Far from it! Transmission went out days after the warranty. Fiat would not make it right. And there are many more out there with the same issue. Hate my Fiat. Cost more to fix than it was worth.
We have 2012 Fiat 500 Sport and all we did since then until now was oil, filters, tires and breaks. My wife loves it. We also have Mercedes GL 450 that constantly needs to see mechanic.
Interesting video. In Europe these cars are still selling well, and are not considered unreliable.
Here in Europe are Fiat 500's with more then 300.000 km on it witch didn't needed a lot of maintance.
Us cars, most of them have also poor building quality. Especially electrics...
@@LuizSMatos-dr9tz There are many cars here which are the size of a Fiat 500 or smaller. These sell well because people, particularly women, like them!
Biased review. These people just cannot stop downgrading a country whose ancestors, the Romans, civilized all of them!!!
@Mike Gunnerst does that make them Mexican 🤔🤔🤔😂😂😂. Grow up!!!!!
Dude I love my Abarth, it's the most fun car I have ever driven.
Dude, my F 350 is funner!
I agree, but drive a normal 500 , that thing falls apart in 2 years, my friend has one
a4yster not even close.
Fly2kill1 a pickup truck will always been more fun
Paul Williams I just can’t agree with that. A fast, small car is great for every day use. It’s something you have to do to get it. Even more so if you have a lot of curves or mild traffic.
I just bought a 2013 Abarth and it’s perfect for me. Sounds like a beast and scoots pretty good too. First Fiat bought it for only $7700 with 51k miles. No issues so far...
also own a 2017 Fiesta ST I’m attempting to sell.
Because Americans are, and have always been, in love with huge (not big) cars and trucks.
We have much bigger roads in the US so we can manage them easier in comparison to Europe where the roads are too small for any large American vehicle.
@@andreiplane8380 that's why pick up Trucks in Europe is failed
And they are too fat to fit in a Fiat.
only thing that sucks about them is gas mileage... and with beijing biden in office, prices are spiking
@@andreiplane8380 most countryside have big enough road, but gas mileage is just too bad, cost are higher and pollution is also an issue.
This makes me sad. I bought my FIAT Abarth in 2015. I love it. No issues, tons of fun to drive. Can't get a better sports car for the price.
I know! and the Abarths are so hard to find too, was hoping they would begin to import the facelifted Abarths like the 595 or the 695 biposto, those are amazing! but now they might be stop importing all of them :/
my advice is hold onto your Abarth, they might go up in value :)
The most amazing under the radar car ever.
I have really been hoping for the 595 or 695, but realize that isnt going to happen unfortunately
@@adamjohnson7325 yeah I'd buy either in a heartbeat.
It’s all about the fuel prices that drives the market and Europe has problems with small land space, parking and narrow streets
@@BakjeLeip you know...socialism in Europe is expensive :-/
@@BakjeLeip wow...And I get frustrated when gas goes from $2 to $2.50
Fiat is failing in the USA because the Japanese/Korean cars are oversaturated in the USA.
Eerm you know Fiat is an italian Brand right ?
I really don't want to buy a fiat because the car is really small and Japanese manufacturing is top notch.
Piano Fry u wud be surprised that toyotas n hondas have opened quite a few factories in US. GM on the other hand are moving to mexico or china. So in a way, the japanese carmakers r more american than the actual american carmakers.
drmnys n not just reliability. Japanese brand have models n engines that r only available in north america.
Joseph Dugan Korean is junk
I told them, Fiat, to just wait for gasoline prices to hit $7 a gallon again.
I drive a 500L and I like it because it’s fun to drive and it’s different, meaning everyone isn’t driving one.
Thread fun to drive is like m more capable to drive. Others wedding get it. To know the taste of ice cream one has to eat it.
L
How reliable is it? I was looking to get a used 500L as my first car because I really liked the see-through A pillar, but the biggest issue for me was reliability; I needed a car that’ll run another 200k miles or so.
@@angellockridge8772 Then run away from it. A fiat doing 200,000 miles is about as likely to happen as a pig flying. Fiat always have been unreliable junk and earned themselves the name Fix it again Toni for a reason.
@@gravemind6536 yea? well thats why one of my dads car (Fiat Stilo 1.9 JTD with 115hp) has 389.239km on the clock and still runs great
Fiat + Chrysler - combines the worst from both sides of the Atlantic
Defiant GTI you might,........remember Chrysler is Chrysler Dodge Jeep and Ram which all sell really well and get amazing reviews
@@Michael-eg3hc only in North America, because the local protectionism doesn't allow the best cars out there to enter the market. Nowhere else in the world prople buy this garbage.
axios12 not garbage
Yeah and Obama made Chrysler merge with fiat. Another reason he didn't know economics. What an idiot just like Obama care..
indeed
I have a 2013 500 turbo . I love this car , I sold my MDX . Easy finding parking , extremely economical on gas . Yes it's small , my Harley road King is slightly bigger. Lol
The road king gets slightly less mpg to lol j/k
How reliable has it been?
Reliability?
Two mistakes, fiat and HD
In Canada, the Fiat 500 was an initial 6 months buzz. After that 6 months, the only thing you hear about is: Always broken, the dealership pushes the blame on the owner, no parts available at Carquest, Napa, etc... They built an Electric Fiat 500, Fiat realized they will not do profit and told people not to buy it. Now, it's rare to see one on the street and used car dealers are stuck with them.
u clearly workj for another car company n are deleting the replies
It may help that in Europe there are other models than the 500. If Fiat cared they would sell the Tipo, Strada, Punto and Panda in the States or maybe advertise them.
They would rebadge them as Dodge
Punto and Panda are also small cars
They would not work in U.S. Only model that would work is Tipo. Punto is too cheap, Panda is nice but too old now and Strada is not even sold in Europe.
@@maabi92 The two of them above (the Tipo and the Strada) are...but only in Latin America.
youve missed the point the market is moving towards proper reliable SUVs
As usual, the Media is last at reporting anything. I knew this from Scotty Kilmer a year ago...
Scotty isn't a reliable source anymore. he was 2 years ago but then he just got opinionated and started saying thoughts instead of facts
@@fairlifemilk3533 I trust him more
@@GlossaME Scotty has made many errors in his videos with regard to resorting to factoids.
@@fairlifemilk3533 when u have the experience he has over the years. then u can talk. he is not wrong about these vehicles. he was working on these cars from the first time they left and now they are doing it again. yes he is not ALWAYS right of course but on this, yes he absolutely is.
Just stay off the interstate!
Gas prices have been low for years. Hurts Fiat. Abarth 500 a blast to drive. Reliable as well.
reliable lol no such thing with Fiat.
@@gravemind6536 False. driven my abarth 40k miles, no issues of any form. Have an acquantance with 130k on his abarth, no issues either. The myth of fiat's poor reliability is as frustrating to an owner who hears nothing but "oh you're an idiot for buying that" as it likely is for fiat, who's honestly making very reliable vehicles.
The Abarth is actually reliable. Owned mine for three years now and not a single issue. I have talked to several Abarth owners that have said they have been reliable. I also own a 500x that has been very reliable.
@@gravemind6536 my mum's fiat gets regularly abused while cold, it only has 140 000 miles but nothing was done to it expect the regular maintenance
Yep. I have a 2013 Abarth. Been dead reliable, only thing that went wrong was a window regulator. Which took about 2 hours to fix under warranty.
In Germany FIAT is known for the acronym “Fehler in allen Teilen“, problems in all parts ... but I have a Punto Evo turbo and I love it 😝
failure at every what?
In Canada and the US FIAT is known as "Fix It Again Tony".FIAT took a fantastic vehicle, the Mazda Miata then put in an Italian engine???
In the UK the acronym for FIAT is Fix It Again Tomorrow.
Ford's is Found On Road Dead.
@@Ag3nt0fCha0s In the US and Canada, FIAT = "Fix It Again Tony." The Ford F-150 is the biggest selling vehicle in the US and Canada. Ford does make a good truck.
@@don-cw1yz in Canada they sell them after 5 years.
Here in Europe and without any haulage needs, I find that I have no need of a truck.
Small tiny cars just don't sell well in the US.... I thought this was already well known. Crossovers on the other hand....
Not just that, but Fiat has to compete against the likes of Toyota and Honda for small cars, and they make them better than Fiat does.
@@Watcher3223 Fiat makes the Japanese cars look large. Fiats are adapted to the small, winding narrow roads and streets of Italy where they make perfect sense, they just don't in the US, I realized this when I was in Italy a couple of years ago, their native habitat. American cars there are like a bull in a jungle tangled up in vines.
Chevy gave us the Sonic and spark. Any explanation behind that?
@@Watcher3223 Toyota and Honda make small cars? That's news to me. Which car do they make that is 140 inches in length or smaller? Maybe it was a Corolla or Tercel from the 1980s...
@Shelby Morgan no it didn't. There's 2019 models. Look it up
We have a lot of massive trucks and cars on US roads so a lot of people are afraid to drive around in a small european car.
no I heard is bad quality
Mathieu Levert GM sells alot of Pick up trucks in the middle East so your comment is wrong
Remove tariffs and watch how competitive the US becomes.
@@philipgates988 its not the tariffs, we just don't make cars that are good for many markets. My friend had a f-150 in Germany and the UK and couldn't take it anywhere because it didn't fit in parking garages and it costs too much to fuel it.
William Parker Yes, and having inexpensive fuel changes the domestic auto industry, and that doesn’t dovetail with auto producers elsewhere.
Solution for FIAT.....
1) Forget about the 500 L
2) Create a 500 XL (larger 500 X)
3) Make the Abarth a TRUE ABARTH....MORE HP !!!!
4) Create a 4 door sedan that is a CIVIC, COROLLA KILLER
FORZA ALFA BABY !!!!
They could do an Alfa Romeo like the old 155. An little sedan, a Premium one. Whit ALL the Alfa Romeos passion and an good engine. Looking like a little Giulia
Good idea
They have sedans already like the fiat tipo
@@andries514 ...not sold in the US
Andries De Lely but that only sold in some countries not the US.nor Canada.
I never got their strategy in the US... like, here in Brazil they're one of the top manufacturers and they actually sell pickup trucks and decently sized sedans... like, who thought it was a good idea to sell small cars in the United States?
Well, as they noted, gas prices were nearly at their peak price and there was an economic recession. I guess they thought Americans might be a bit wiser than we are. Clearly, 2016 demonstrated just how pathetic we are. (Of course, Brazil isn't all that great, either.) That said, I don't think the fuel efficiency of these smaller cars was _that_ much better than, say, a crossover. I Googled and it claimed the 2019 Fiat 500 gets 28 city / 33 highway. That's just not very impressive. Why get a Fiat when I can get a crossover that gets perhaps 23/28 mpg and allows me to fit all my garbage in my vehicle?
For Fiat (FCA) is not important selling Fiat in US, coz they own Jeep and Dodge , and they selling big SUVS with these brands
Fiat is selling jeep and dodge vehicles badged as fiat in europe
@@BakjeLeip Dodge's minivan is sold as a Fiat in Italy. I forget its name
@@BakjeLeip Freemont I think it's called. Fiat group also sold the Chrysler 300 as a Lancia Thesis in Italy, but I think they stopped that now. It was only available with a V6 anyway so no loss lol
@@kylelaughinghouse1893 exactly, in Eu they are selling RAM as Fiat, chrysler as fiat/lancia and probably a lot more
Brandon Thom pretty much and the Jeep Renegade is rebadged fiat Panda.
I drive a 2015 Fiat 500 😕
I recently took it on a road trip from Florida to Canada.
That must have been one awful road trip riding around in that little tin can on wheels.
@@w3r0ification Wow ! A little bit sexually insecure are we ?
How many times did it break down?
@@w3r0ification you drive a lifted truck dont you?
I bet you're a pickle smoker too?
In India, Fiat engines are in entire Suzuki car range, they make good engines in 1.3 ltr category. Small and economical for Indian market.Suzuki is able to dominate the entire market because of fiat engines. Now these engines are in Tata, Jeep, MG and what not brands. I think they should focus on small and economical cars.
The 1.3 liter multijet, yeah, a dude here in italy has made that beast a 400 hp engine whit 4k euros of mods... from a diesel 1.3😂😂
I had a Fiat 500 made in Mexico. Low quality when comparing to the European version. It broke after 2 years. My first and last Fiat.
I have drove a fiat 500 Abarth and that thing is amazing
@Jake Wheelie which they mostly are
The avg American weighs as much as the fiat car
Laaawl xD. Made my day.
At least it's better than Seeing North Koreans in Famine way. (No offense to North Koreans, I hope they free but Americans ain't bad tho. One people hosted the Meme Review and launched the rocket and then lands.)
@@Jimmy-lm2eg what?!
@@TENNSUMITSUMA You don't Understand about North Korea and Famine?
@Joe Casson that you know!
America is one of if not the fattest country on the planet! You being around the 1/100 that aren't doesn't make null and void tge 99/100 that are!
I have owned several Fiats. As I do with all my cars, I drove them UNMERCIFULLY. They do require some maintenance BUT they are put together VERY WELL. The thing to know about Fiat and ALL Italian cars is; you buy an Italian car because you LIKE to drive and ALL Italian cars drive REALLY well. If it is a Fiat or a Ferrari, when you get out of the car you want to get back in and drive more. People who want a car as an appliance will NEVER understand this. Fiat is not for them.
Couldn't agree more, they are built to be driven. That's why I loved my Alfa Romeo boxer.
It is a shame that more people do not see this. Unfortunately, people in the US want large boxes on wheels that simply move down the road. We are also a disposable culture, so people that means people(not all) do not take care of their stuff and simply throw it away when it breaks. I do not understand the reliability argument, regarding Fiats cause US brands have had horribly constructed products with many problems and recalls. The fact that the entire US auto industry nearly imploded a few years ago, is proof of this....cause during the recession, the more reliable brands were still holding on, as whatever market was left, was still buying from them.
I have a 2018 fiat 500c with a turbo
It’s fast and I love it!
I've owned two abarths and they're the most fun cars i've ever had....they are now discontinued. that's why fiat is struggling.
Lol they were discontinued because nobody bought them. Because they're impractical and horrendously unreliable.
Fiat has to pay the advertiser Jd powers for a spot in the higher rating score, that's how it works
Or invest that money in quality control to pump up the Consumer Reports scores
Haha!
I guess Toyota has no money. Jd power ranks Toyota below average.
Yes, genesis, the richest brand, even richer than Toyota and Mercedes, purchased the #1 spot on jd power initial quality survey.
@@shawnlee664 rich people can be cheap skates too !
It is struggling everywhere. Other companies buying fiat engines for their cars are successful but they themselves are not. Pathetic customer service, poor product development, poor service network are their problems in India at least.
Not the case in South America
I will never understand the fascination and appeal of SUVs and crossovers.
I LOVE LOVE LOVE my Fiat 500 Gucci!!!! I hope they don't go away. =(
These “Italian” cars are actually made at a Chrysler plant in Mexico. Really misleading!!
So are fords and chevys..
FIAT owns many factories around the world do does VW. The fact that the 500 was assembled in Mexico does not make it a Mexican car. Citroen, the French car company makes cars in Portugal. They are very nice cars.
Toyota, Mazda builds cars in the US.
Nothing misleading. If you want a genuinely Italian built FIAT then go for the 500X or the Renegade.
They are absolutely wonderful cars with great reliability, economy and character. Absolutely fun to drive. You will not be dissapointed.
The fiat 500 L is made in the same Serbian factory that made the Yugo
@Mike Gunnerst , it does not matter where it is made. The design, the tooling snd materials are Italian. Only the labor is Mexican. Citroen has a big car factory in Portugal. CITROEN is French. Cars built in Mexico are very good quality.
Many VW are made in Mexico.
@savage 069 , the real Burnie is not but I am.
I'm a mechanic, I love Fiat, always have. When they came back to the USA, I knew that sooner or later I would be able to afford a used model. Two years ago, I found a 2012 for $3,300. Would not go into 3rd, so it needed a new tranny and when you swap transmissions you always replace the clutch. The going price for a 2012, at that time, was $5,300. First thing I did was find a used tranny for $700. Next, the easy part was buying the clutch kit. Locally they wanted $900 to $1,100. I got on line and the lowest was $825. This was insane. What they wanted for just the kit was what you could have the entire job done for, on most cars. I then began looking at the price for other Fiat parts. All, exorbitant. BMW parts are less expensive. So much for owning a Fiat.
100forks I bought a 2012 fiat clutch for $148... Where the hell were you looking?
Dealer parts are always expensive. You pay the same for the Mopar parts for Fiat as you do ACDelco for GM
Any parts I have bought are all reasonable. Not sure what high priced sites your looking at. If you are a mechanic, you should have resale dealers with much lower prices than that. We are not mechanics and beating you in prices?
@@UPdan I contacted Advance Auto, Auto zone and I got on Ebay. They were all the same approx. price.
@@TJFFx I went to Advance, Auto Zone and I got on Ebay, they were are the same approximate price.
Serious question, because I don't know. Why do these small, "affordable" cars, cost as much as a Camry? Why aren't they 10k?
They mostly are but not fashionable small cars like Mini Cooper, Fiat 500 or VW Beetle.
Greed. Insatiable greed.
Because the Camry and Corolla are produced in massive numbers for a World market, so the overall cost to manufacture per car is lower. Fiat would also have to defray the cost of US compliance over many fewer cars. A common criticism the Toyota receives is they're bland and appliance like. If you want something that's more stylish and unique, then expect to pay more for it as it does cost more to make less.
The 500 is a luxury model in Fiat line. The Panda is the cheap one. But the Panda doesn't look as good as the 500 and tgey are afraid of japanese and korean competition.
Problem: They are not affordable. Expensive for such little car. 🤔
I like my 500 convertible.....puts a smile on my face.....everytime I drive it.
@trigolis , it's never broken down.
@trigolis , not everyone is as cheap...as you.....when it comes to preventative maintenance......lol
@trigolis You are being an idiot !!!
I don't think fiat thinks it's much a big deal. They are still cashing in on jeep and ram. Either way Luigi is still making money. BTW love my 500 abarth.
Failing in India too. It is selling Diesel engine to major automakers in India.
Probably for very different reasons though
@@zedtrek Pretty much same reasons. they dont have SUVs, or good range of sedans. They sell one hatchback and one sedan here in India, thats it. From the beginning. They were bound to fail.
@@dhaval1090 . Reason being they don't understand Indian likes.. they consider eu market and Indian as same. Its same problem for all western companies.
Also I believe tata owns a part of it in india??
@@dhaval1090 for what a couple of friends say seems more related to the price being too high for the Indian market.
Enzo Ferrari and Gianni Agnelli drove FIATs. Michael Schumacher drove a FIAT. Sebastian Vettel, Felipe Massa, and Kimi Räikkönen, drive FIATs. The FIAT 500 is the first car that most Europeans own. Do Lancia Ypsilons sell in America? The city cars are very popular in Europe.
The Fiat 500 appears to me to be about as popular as the original VW “Beetle” was. It doesn’t look like failure to me.
How many have you seen in your city?????????
You gotta quit smoking crack dude, Fiat doesn't sell worth a crap in the US. The brand only sold 15,000 cars for the entire year in 2018.
Fiat doesn't sell good in the US and in Europe, people are well aware of the poor build quality
marakima yeah,San Francisco,that says it all.
Louis The 500 is everywhere in Europe.
Love how CNBC will criticize Tesla for anything. BMW’s ceo resigns because of Tesla sales and not a word about it from CNBC.
I doubt that Tesla sales have anything to do with BMW's internal politics.
CNBC should do a video on Tesla's planned obsolescence built into the software.
I bought my 500x Fiat in june...i love it...its a fun reliable car...plus not many people have it so it stands out.
It's the most unreliable car sold in the US.
Can't say it is being reliable if it was bought last month 😂
@@ldever3 no. The 500x isn't that bad. It's average.
Clearly you aren’t a car enthusiast
Ha ha ha ha ha. Be prepared for lots of repairs as it gets older
It's failing because many of us owned Fiats back in the 70s/80s! I owned a 79 Fiat X19. It was super cute and super raggedy! My mechanic asked me to buy another car. He hated working on it!
I've had no problem selling the half dozen 500's I have bought in the last 3 years to flip. Sure they sold better 5 years ago with $4 gas, but I remember you couldn't give a truck or SUV away either around that time. And the people who say it's too small probably have never sat in one themselves.
Exactly
A good portion of Americans don't want to drive a tiny box! They want a mansion on wheels! 😆
Andy the Cat They’re unreliable and cost way too much to get to even 100k. Honda and Toyota still sell small cars here, the only difference being that those will make it to 150-200k trouble free
@@andrewmclaughlin9951 Bull$hit , if you want a small car that will "ill make it to 150-200k trouble free", don't buy a Honda or Toyota ,as they are over rated junk !!!!
Well i would rather drive a high powered Mansion on wheels than an underpowered moving picnic table.
Truly yours,
A European who lives in Europe.
@@johnbelwell2461 i would rather have a high powered picnic table... The masion doesnt need to have wheels...truly yours A european living in Europe also.
David Hollenshead as someone who’s had hundreds of cars I agree. I love my Honda’s but they aren’t what they are cracked up to be.
Made in Mexico and overpriced for a car that size. The "HYPE" didn't stick.
Are you saying that Mexicans do not know how to build cars? They build a lot of cars not just FIAT.
MEXICO ....THEY BUILD.....TOYOTAS....NISSAN....
FORD....CHEVYS....VW...
AND CHRISLER AND FIAT
BY THE WAY A GOT A 500
NO PROBLEM AT ALL DRIVIN A 100 MILES A DAY.....FOR 2 YRS
JUST OIL CHANGE.....AND GAS
Eric G You don’t know where they are made?
I don't know about the reliability, but they certainly look awesome! Charming macchina!
said an Italian with an ugly car as a profile pic.
MiTo ahahahahaaahhaahhaah
They need to work on reliability and their sales will soar. I love the SUV model and would buy one in a heartbeat.
They have work in reliability and they are very well. I own two fiats, from 2007 & 2012! They are like new, with the typical service every year.
I got a used 500 2012 with low mileage for cheap and it's been amazing for the city. Parts for it are dirt cheap. If you live where parking is tough and can be comfy in a tiny car, it's great.
I thought that parts might be expensive due to the cars not being popular here.
Dear Fiat,
bring the legendary Fiat UNo
back first.
1.4 Turbo at least.
They now make the fiat mobi wich is a replacement
Gotta be Brazilian
Mateus Oliveira,
not only brazilian my friend
with a ladder on the roof as factory option
Poor historical reliability (70's and 80's). For most Americans reliability is the number one priority. With poor public transit and the huge areas between many cities reliability has to be there. It's not uncommon for an American to do a 1000 mile/ 1600 km round trip road trip on a weekend. Most of that will be on highways with traffic going over 70 mph/ 115 kmph. You have to be reliable and have power to keep up on super highways to succeed in the USA market. Japanese and Korean small cars are doing just fine in the USA because they understand this.
I've always preferred to drive small cars, not the behemoths produced by the U.S. or imported from Japan. I'm on my third FIAT, the 500L model. Previously I owned 128 and X1/9 models. I've loved them all. It's sad to think that FIAT might give up the American market once more. I'll miss them if they leave.
They're not leaving......they own Chrysler.
Fiat 500, cute. Fiat 500L, excuse me while I vomit. Maybe if they're cars where all good looking. If you want a bigger car, make a different car, not a car 500 with a thyroid condition. Fiat Spider is the best looking Miata.
Right about the first 2 comments, but the 3rd one ... nah
I’m completely honest when I say I’m getting an ad saying “Worst Cars of All Time” by topcarlists.com beside this video.
Fiat 500x is ok
@@jnava1994 nah, that whole lineup is a total crap and a rip off internally.
I can understand men who like how those cars look, but I can't understand those who _only_ care about the look of their car.
Agreed on the 500L being horrid but the 500X looks good.
I love how this video is posted right when I start seeing more and more fiats each day in the U.S
In America, since the 1970s, it's been a running joke that FIAT stands for Fix It Again Tony!
Too expensive, just like Mini and the Smart car. if the entry level 500 costed about the same as other cars in it's segment ($13000), it would sell better.
A turbo charged 500 pop goes for $15k. An entry-level mini goes for $22k.
In the UK the only Fiat based car worth buying is the Abarth 595 version. Ive had two, absolutely brilliant to drive and start at only about £14k.
Still too expensive, both of them
@@gsilva220 I think that you don't actual understands the economics of automobiles. Although it is ALMOST possible to have a new $13k car, it's not possible to have a new $13k car with the powertrain the 500 has. That they can make a $15k car like the 500 is somewhat amazing. After a retune, my entry level, manual transmission Pop drives like all of hell is chasing it.
I don't understand the Americans obsession with CrossOvers.
Its something of the older people. It's less back pain for them to get in and out of. (Most new cars in America are sold to people over 40).
Same as how I never understood old people buying Lincolns, Cadillacs, and Chrysler ‘luxury’ cars. Always saw those as a complete waste of money.
@Jody Owen I do think Sedans , and cars are just as comfortable. Besides they give better mileage , lesser material usage - that adds up to being more environment friendly in the long run. American as a consumer is setting a bad example. Their obsessions with bigger vehicles have changed the auto industry even influencing other nations - as everywhere people are tempted to buy larger vehicles. Seriously, I do dig the concept of SUVs with extrme off-road capabilities, stronger chassis, their 4 wheel drive , differential lock feature . But crossovers - I feel are the most pointless category of vehicle- chassis of a sedan with looks of an SUV.
Also why USA don't have railroads. Railroads are one of the most economic means of transportation and also the fastest. Americans burn more fuel in consumer transportation than any other countries.
@Fred Jansen That's false Macho. These Crossovers have the same weak chassis of a Sedan inside. It's just like the chicken from Chicken Farm obnoxiously obese but not as nutritious.
bad timing and wrong product? More like a transmission as solid as the kardashian's relationships.
☠️☠️☠️
i say both
Have you ever driven one? I've never heard of one breaking down or having transmission issues.
@@tylergarza8695 yeah me too, but it is cool to talk bad about things you don't know apparently
@@LaTanaDiKosky good point
Fiat has a whole line up of car they sell in Europe but don't sell here. You have to give customers a selection.
They also have more color and style options in Europe. To be honest I don’t like most of the colors they’re offering Americans - they’re boring
In the US people buy with their eyes not their needs.
Literally the opposite what are you talking about lmao
Or what they are told to buy.
Fiats are just the wrong kind of car for the US. A 500 is the perfect kind of car if you're living in Italy or Europe and you need something small and nimble that can handle the tight spaces and windy roads they have there. It doesn't matter if you have a 1.4L engine, because you aren't going to be cruising at 55-80 mph for hours on end. Most of the driving in Europe is at speeds of 40 mph or less and less than an hour away.
I drove a Fiat Tipo (similar to a VW Golf) rental car when I was in Germany and honestly, that car felt big for most of the streets, roads and parking lots. I almost felt like I needed something smaller.
Conversely, I drove a Fiat 500 rental car in the US and it was just terrible. The engine was downshifting all the time, every pothole felt 5x bigger than it actually was and I had no space for anything more than a few small items. Not too mention the poor acceleration. And the fuel mileage wasn't even that much better than I'd get driving a Ford Fusion (/Mondeo). It did reasonably well in the city, aside from all the bumps and potholes it slammed into. I can't say how well it would do in 6+ inches of snow and ice since I only drove it in summer, but I know I'd want to update my life insurance policy before the first snowfall.
Honestly, the Fiat 500 is a very niche car in the US. It might make sense in the older cities of America and Canada but for most of America, it's just woefully incapable of being a good general purpose daily driver.
Agree their a city car .Even owners agree their less than ideal for room.
Fiat wants to be a niche brand like Mini is, not a mainstream brand. That's why Fiat sells some of their mainstream models as Dodges in Mexico, and if Fiat wants to sell cars like that stateside they're gonna sell them with Dodge badges and grilles.
One of the big reasons small cars don't do well here is because Americans do so much highway travel. Small cars are not fun on long trips and are scary when everything else on the road is gigantic and can crush you like an egg. I think it's sad they might pull the Fiat brand out of the market, it just means less choice for the consumer.
The Fiat 500 is just too small. I had a 2011 Ford Fiesta and the ride quality was amazing for a sub-compact. My 2012 Ford Focus was great on the highway. Small cars today aren't like the tinny, under powered small cars of the 1980's & 1990's.
“Endless money pit that doesn’t hold up over time.” 😂😂😂
Scotty?
@@DeezNuts- yup
That's a weird way to say American domestic cars