She claims this, though probably she met up with her Institute sources in DC. If she did walk she had a long trip as nobody goes near the NYC area. Though there is some suggestion that BOS did fly over it. As we hear, buildings and towers seem to still exist there and that is a good sign for any future NYC Fallout. Though the BOS lady could have meant Philadelphia or even Baltimore as far as we know. That being said, Deacon suggests Boston Commonwealth and DC had some trading networks, so perhaps there is a guarded safe trade route she could have taken.
@@Kannar22 Well I was curious how long it would take to travel from DC to Boston and discovered a normal driving time be 7 Hours and 10 or 15 Minutes. I discovered someone has attempted it, though they did it from Boston to DC. Though they were just starting it and I cannot find out if they finished nor how long it took, the walker stated they were expecting it to take 22 to 23 days. Here though we have a few issues, within Fallout. She would have to go around NYC (Fallout Lore suggests NYC is gone and the one description of it is that it is a large crater), which person above walked through it. Meaning a day or more travel. Since most of the Majour roadways are probably intact outside of urban areas, she wouldn't have issues, though going through places like Baltimore and probably Jersey would cause issues as people may now guarding or even settled on them (Meaning they also might be blocking access). Because it now appears you may walk from Boston to DC within a months time and because she would be healthy and used to survive in such a World. I would guess it only took her a couple months to do it, even in heels, which I doubt she would have done. I say this because heels are not made for long-distance travel. That being said, I'd guess it took her two to three months.
@@xYottabyte And he's not wrong, the comparing the Commonwealth to the Capital Wasteland, it's better than the ruins of D.C., especially since it's full of Super Mutants.
@@jaimecavazos4745 They just left the Super Mutants to roam free in the Capital Wasteland? Not exterminating them for the protection of D.C's populace? Hm. Always thought that the Brotherhood would turn The Capital Wasteland into a country. Guess that's too progressive for Bethesda writers liking :/.
@@nagihangot6133 Well, we don't know if the Brotherhood from the Capital Wasteland fully eradicated the Super Mutants, but judging from the terminals in the Prydwen, they did wiped them out, especially after killing a super mutant leader named Shepherd
@@nagihangot6133 They probably did. And seeing how authoritarian, human supremacist and just generally abusive the Brotherhood is in Fallout 4, we can assume the C.W isn't the best place to live for a mercenary like Maccready.
I mean I don't think they forgot. I think it is more real. Individuals who are forgotten to history and records for more public use because organizations deem them not important enough or deem them distracting. BOS probably remember though, they just deem it more as an effort of everyone and especially Sarah Lyons team. Most BOS probably saw the Lone Wander more as a member of the BOS and that elite squad. I mean I am trying to put into perspective of how an intiate or recurit might learn about the enclave and the war.
@SMBComix i disagree, it takes away importance from what you did in the previous games. The best way us how Bioware did with the Mass Effect Trilogy, where the game checks if saves of previous games are present and shape the world upon it. Even Xenoverse 2 did it, the player character from the first game is present in the story. It would be nice to see our own Lone Wanderer in Fallout 4.
MacCready will occasionally say, "You think things are bad here? You should see the Capital Wasteland". So apparently things went to hell there despite Project Purity.
@@DurtyDan Idk, it's pretty much the same. Capital Wasteland has Megaton, Rivet City, Arefu, Tenpenny Tower, Citadel, Republic Of Dave, Underworld... Plenty of settlements with inhabitants living their lives.
I liked to think that he meant things literaly were just uglier in the Capital Wasteland. Like, it always has gray skies, black trees, etc. That rather than the visual differences between 3 and 4 being due to different levels of technology and a different artistic trend (black and brown and gray and bloom lighting was all the rage when FO3 was made), that it literally is just like that. That the Capital Wasteland simply is a bleaker, drearier, more heavily-bombed area than the Commonwealth.
Either the Brotherhood of Steel has made things worse by taking over or they just aren't capable of dealing with all the raiders, slavers, and mutants.
Wouldn't it suck to go on a life-changing adventure across the capital wasteland, saving (or ending) the lives of many, finding your lost father, and providing clean water to the residents of said wasteland, then to get abducted by aliens and never seen again?
Surely you mean stealing an alien ship. After smoking the aliens then beaming Sarah Lyon's up. To go have kinky space times Kirk style....These are the voyages of the starship zetan and thier five year mission....
2:03 that portion of voice acting is honestly the greatest single instance of VA I've ever heard, every time I hear her screaming it sounds so genuine I get completely enthralled in the situation. Totally underrated actress.
I just realized. If Shaun was kidnapped 60 years before Nate woke up, and FO4 takes place 10 years after 3, then Nora would be dead during FO3/NV. And would've been dead for roughly50 years by time FO3 events happened. Still frozen, but dead
Lyons didn't die, The Lone Wanderer just zooped his girlfriend up to his spaceship and left a toasted set of power armor on the ground to throw the Brotherhood off. Change my mind
Totally. Who'd want to hang around in a miserable Wasteland while there's an entire galaxy waiting to be explored? Sarah x LW as space adventurers is canon.
44:56 imagine prydwen makes an entrance and a few seconds later it blows up because some minutemen on artillery got drunk and decided it would be funny to blow up the flying ship
Imagine the sole survivor takes the prydwen and have his own faction men and women in power armor and vertibirds , any are welcome to join all you need is to care to make a difference and a suit of power armor , we will take all the power armor and vertibirds in the Commonwealth and go on a war against the super mutants, ghouls and raiders and burn them out and take the institute and take all their tech , and use the mechanicist lair to mass produce all the sentribots and assaultrons and leave in the prydwen full of resources and technology and go to the Capitol wasteland and wade waste to the mutant etc and free the land of darkness and go place to place freeing people
@@christianjohnson5379 I get why you'd think that but there was no evidence to support that Fawkes was going to be in New Vegas because there was no character model or voice Lines in the files.
According to Moira's logs, it sounds like it's official the lone wanderer told Lucas Simms that Burke wanted to blow up the town, and Simms was murdered by Burke during the failed arrest.
Yeaaaah. Li is kinda a hypocrite because that is exactly what the Institute is doing, but worse, killing innocent people to spread their influence and turn everyone into machines.
I thought you were talking about that literally defective missile launcher from Fallout 3, that fired shitty rockets that bounced like grenades, then I saw what you meant and I'm somehow MORE disappointed.
Mate once you get in on some perks, my mighty ML (legendary) does 828 damage, no enemy can withstand a full salvo, yeah the splash damage is horrific but thats what my Splattercanon is for
Humans face tanking missiles is what put me off playing fallout 4. They just become bullet sponges over time. I thought they learned the flaws of endlessly scaling enemies with oblivion?
No Dave died, and become Death Claw Lunch. The People in the 'Republic' soon turned on one other, and the town was quickly abandoned to the Wasteland. Bob went to form 'the Kingdom of Bob' but was wiped out by the Brotherhood, when Bob raided a water caravan. Rosie was elected as the new President, but was killed in office. And the Republic was trown into ancary. Jessica killed her self after she lenard of Dave's death. Shawna lead the childern away, but Raiders ambushes them. She was killed during the ambush. The Childern where sold off to paradise fall slavers. However, one day. The Childern rose up, and over thown there captors, and formed the 'Republic of the Falls'.
I find it interesting, when speaking of the Lone Wonderer, that M. Brown says most people couldn't agree regarding the gender (male or female) but most people didn't know the person. She knew the LW personally and frequently referred to the LW as a "he, him". This is not the first time the canonical gender of a previous protagonist is the male version. This was also the case in Fallout 1
Same with Fallout 2's chosen one being male as in F:NV it's all but outright stated he fathered a child in new Reno with one of the crime family daughters
@@katofdarkcrest Yes! I recently heard about that in Oxhorn's video "An Epilogue to Fallout 2". That is interesting! There is one other thing Oxhorn forgot to mention; the Lone Wonderer's canonical "race". We find a picture of James and Catherine in Falout new Vegas' vault 21. James' race is Caucasian in that picture. In order to get James to be Caucasian, the player must select the Caucasian race for the Lone wonderer. Couple this with Moira brown's message mentioning his gender and we can conclude that the canonical Lone Wondered is a Caucasian male with good karma.
I’m fairly sure the Courier is also Male, as he is referred to as he, but also canonically had a child some 18 years before New Vegas happened, also In pretty sure it was confirmed by devs.
By default, all fallout games' protagonists are male. All quests are written for the male protagonist first. However, for some reason, I find playing as female in Fallout 3 is better than playing male.
If you think about it between time and most visits to anywhere your character is usually armored up face covered with bandanas and sunglasses,helmets, armor, etc. Plus moira was a synth no wonder she doesn't remember what gender you were🙃
As much as I adore the Brotherhood, I can't help but express my disappointment in Arthur Maxon: Owen and Sarah Lyons took him in, mentored him, cared for him... yet he dragged their names through the mud all the same, all to further his own goals. Roger Maxon would be ashamed.
I would have to agree. Roger Maxon was noble enough to rebel against his own gov't for heinous actions. 200 years later, the Brotherhood is pretty powerful and can use the technology they've gathered from the years to actually help people. Otherwise, what's the point?
“You have no idea what I went through, the choices I had to make” “Yeah Ik I just watched my entire life be destroyed under an atomic bomb, my home everything I loved destroyed, only to loose my family and loving wife soon after. And choices I HAD to make, keeping you alive is one of them.”
I honestly miss the Lyon's Brotherhood. They were the good guys that tried to use their technology to help the Wasteland. Fallout 4's Brotherhood just seems like the Enclave if you ask me.
Yeah It was really poor writing to just have Sarah Lyons be killed off screen and only being able to find out on a terminal. But it makes sense if the Lyons pride was killed then they might just revert back to the codex
If you played through Fallout 1 and 2, you'd realize that F4's Brotherhood is what the Brotherhood should be. They're not like the Enclave (who are introduced and explained in F2) at all. Edit: actually, I was wrong. The Brotherhood should be more akin to Fallout New Vegas, where they have weakened severely. That's what F2 set up.
@@jakespacepiratee3740 Are you referring to the events of Tactics? Since it retcons the origin of the Brotherhood, among other things, I don't think that game is canon.
@@J05TI and yet, its pivotal events are referenced in Fallout 3 and Fallout 4. What we are actually seeing here is an unreliable narrator, the Midwest Chapter of the Brotherhood of Steel has been disconnected from the Western Chapter for a while now, so they have their own interpretations of events. The likely accurate origins of the Midwest Chapter is that they were originally Vault Dwellers who were discovered by the Western BoS, but the Vault Dwellers had a more positive, ambitious perspective, which caused them to be exiled to Chicago.
It depends where you are in the wasteland, the NCR isn't in a lot of areas, like the Capital Wasteland or the Commonwealth, while the Brotherhood has chapters nearly everywhere. Though you get the NCR and the Brotherhood in a fight and the NCR would win, as shown by Helios One and the state of the Nevada chapter in Fallout New Vegas.
Almorium Why? Maxson will literally lead the charge against the Institute in his dope ass coat carrying a Gatling laser and he’s only 20. The man has strength. Caesar was literally an old ass man who was former followers of apocalypse most his life. However some of that terminal is clear propaganda lol
Almorium Except they can’t you made them do that. No normal npc does that on there own but Maxson. No he got that position cause 1. He’s the last heir to Roger Maxson and 2. He is a good leader. He reintegrated the outcasts into the Bos, has increased the Bos Numbers, supplies and technology while showing care and strength to his soldiers. You seem to forget Lyons was failing in everything until The lone wanderer came around, His chapter was splintered, restricted to inner DC, his supplies were running low and Bos recruits were becoming untrained and unskilled as they were pushed out into the meat grinder with mere 10mm SMGs. Maxson United the Bos and turned it into a major east coast powerhouse without the player holding his hand. If he was a dictator he would have court marshaled Ingram who disobey his direct order by going to Mass fusion.
I like the idea that after Elder Lyons died of old age, the Outcasts assassinated Sarah and the Lone Wanderer was so pissed off by it he left in disgust. The Outcasts then used Arthur as a puppet and began to turn the Capital Wasteland into a fiefdom.
The BoS's views are less extreme than the Enclave, but Maxson showed us it only takes one charismatic leader to tip the scales. I wouldn't be surprised if destroying the Prydwen (any ending would work really) could result in a far less tolerant Elder being elected. Escalation of suspicions and ideals would them lead to a more isolated Brotherhood like a worse western branch.
@@almorium6216 Enclave under Eden due to John Henry Eden being massively extreme, which even brought the ZAX into conflict with MODUS (cut communication) and Colonel Autumn (immediate split and civil war), MODUS'es Enclave actually encourages mutation, seeing of the various "tests" and creating battle ready serums that would mutate soldiers for combat suppressing the negative effects.
Both of them suck, This is why I see Elder Maxson as a Weakling, he leads the Brotherhood against all without a worthy cause, his only feat was based on strength and charisma, not intelligence, not for experience, strength and personality, wich is good material for a Leader, but without wisdom and a good objective, is useless. The only difference between the Enclave and the Brotherhood is that the brotherhood has the same irradiated DNA unlike the Enclave, if they were pure, they would be seeking to destroy not only the mutants, but also the humans with irradiated DNA, and being slayed as well, this is why In my first playthrough I joined the Minutemen, you can say whatever you want about Lyons, but he was a better Leader than this blimp-isolationist weakling.
It’s really cool how they connected the Institute to Fallout 3 as a rumored “scientific community” before they were even sure what they were going to name it
After finishing Fallout 3, the thing that made the most sense - especially for my character - was that the Lone Wanderer went back to Mothership Zeta and learned all they could from the alien technology. There, he used the technological wonders on the ship to help the people of the wasteland. As time went on, he recruited people to help - That's why there are conflicting stories about who "The Lone Wanderer" is.
Likely he or she unfroze the remaining captives in the Zeta mothership before all that. If I remember correctly, there were ALOT of cryotubes in that ship. Maybe he found a safe part in the world and started a new colony with the people in cryosleep.
And we know little to nothing of what's transpired in the Mojave in the years since New Vegas. Not enough post-game lore to go on for either installment, and it will likely stay that way for a long while yet; with both Starfield and TES VI still on the way, it will be a good while before we get Fallout 5 to advance the timeline.
The most important questions from fallout 3 are left unanswered. ... What was the fate of harold the tree man. And what happened to the republic of dave
Harold lives many live times till some bos find him and either freehim from herbert or kill him. I think free he did profide the land with easy builing materials. And dave dies his son takes over one of the moms proably runs off to canterbury
If you have played Fallout 1, 2 and New Vegas, you'd understand that the BoS in Fallout 4 behaves more closely to the Brotherhood in those games, than what we saw with Lyon's BoS in Fallout 3. Hell, even Lyon's Brotherhood still hates Ghouls and hoards tech still, they're just more nicer by helping the people of the Capital Wasteland, which like Outcasts have said, goes against the Brotherhood's goals and beliefs.
Lone Wonderer, Vault Dweller and Courier met with very old tribal from Arroyo and become 4 Horseman on Apocalypse, which you can encounter in fallout tactics :D
I absolutely love how the Fallout games connect to each other so well. It really makes the Fallout world feel so alive. I hope future games, if there will be any, continue this...
Fallout 3 was my first introduction to the franchise. I fell in love with the Lyons pride, I had so much respect for elder lyons ethics and everything he did for the waste . Finding out what the brotherhood was really like sucked, then in fallout 4 seeing what the lyons pride turned into was worse. I immediately opened up my old fallout 3 play through and used console commands to kill maxon
In FO3 I recruited little Maxon and he did okay for a couple days, then three Supermutant Brutes surrounded and clubbed him to death. He was then just a legendary stain on the landscape.
It took me like six play throughs to blow up megaton. I had a real hard time and only did it for the trophy Then loaded the save before i did it. I just could not bring my self to kill like that and stick with it
@@chumking no that is just the type of person i am. Hey everytime i played i felt bad because my character got to know each other and i did not agree with tenpenny. Now when i play it is way easier. That is my flaw. Whether real or just an NPC I play the game as if though that character was me.
Lol, ikr I do love Lyons pride full of bravery and sacrifice for the greater good and good fight especially Sarah Lyons god she was hot and awesome , elder Lyons was great as a wise caring father who acts like he has to save the world from darkness, and the power armor is great to put that on and wield a plasma rifle being flown in by vertibird to a warzone either against the enclave, super mutants or talons company , jumping in with guns blazing , explosives blowing up ,bullets flying , assaulting heavy defenses on the Frontline to make a difference to the people and wasteland, taking out the enclave taking their Power armor and put it on more brotherhood initiates to have more knights in the field adding more numbers to our ranks expanding beyond the horizon
There's something about hearing Oxhorn yell "to victory" and then hearing "ad victoriam" chanted over and over that makes me patriotic to an army that doesn't exist
I would have liked to see a different ending to the Lyons and Lyons. Given how much interaction the Lone Wanderer had with the two, they kinda deserved a better outcome than dying shortly after the events and disappearing from history. Maybe a NCR kind of thing, where during the next game you find them well established and in the process of growing, but as a separate chapter from the West, taking in recruits from the local populace similar to Tactics rather than the complete xenophobia of the West. Afterall, Lyons did produce results: a safe base of operations with access to nearly unlimited pure water, access to a treasure trove of technology and the near complete eradication of a technologically superior enemy within weeks and using depleted forces. The Maxson brat could have done well to remember the teachings and achievements of his mentor.
Brotherhood Paladin: Hey check out this triple beam laser Rilfe, I found! Sarah: Hey, that's cool. But can you point it some where els... *Paladin fire the new rilfe* Brotherhood Paladin: Oh whoops! How did that happen? Brotherhood Knight: Ummm....Let's say she died when Super fricks got her. Brotherhood Paladin: Ya, we'll say that!
The Brotherhood of Fallout 4 never sat well with me, They're more organized, and equipped then they were 11 years ago but they spit on the memory and reputation of Lyons. They wouldn't be what they are without the direction and leadership of Owen Lyons. Then comes in a kid with hot headed ambitions. I remember that scene in the first Thor movie where Thor argues with Odin in the Byfrost and Odin says "YOU ARE A VAIN, GREEDY, CRUEL BOY." And Thor yells back "AND YOU'RE AND OLD MAN AND A FOOL!" Replace Odin and Thor with Owen and Arthur, that's How I see these 2 leaders. One a leader seasoned by experience, unwilling to commit lives and resources unless it's worthy. The other believes the BOS has some kind of divine providence to decide who or what gets to use tech, willing to throw the heft of the BOS at an "enemy" that could undue everything they've built since project purity and Adams AFB. Siding with the BOS in F4 left a sour taste in my mouth, it felt like siding with the barbarians that burned down the library of Alexandria. But siding with the institute felt like siding with robo-nazi's. Join the Minute Men and blow em both up. In the world of Fallout war never changes and nothing good lasts.
FO4's Brotherhood- MAXSON'S brotherhood- are nothing more than the inheritors of the Enclave's throne. They are obsessed with purity, they are a military dictatorship, and they are EXTREMELY xenophobic. The only difference is that the Enclave wanted to build communities, to have something to rule OVER. The Brotherhood has no such ambitions- they just want to destroy or control anything they think is "too dangerous" for "common people" to have.
In a world like that of Fallout Maxon might actually be a better leader than Lyons, you need warriors to handle that environment, that's what Maxon was, a warrior not a politician.
A mistake video makes, another Gary does indeed appear. He appears as a body in Operation: Anchorage, in a room before you go under. They had kidnapped him and attempted to use his Pip-Boy. When found, the Pip-Boy arm is missing.
Or Red in Big Town. Maybe, the Lone Wanderer did stay. Unlike the Courier, the Lone Wanderer probably, stayed to farm the land near where he grew up. (Vault 101)
Yeah.... As much as Maxson claimed it wasn't about his ego or his vanity, his actions proved otherwise. The man is so full of himself to think that he alone is the sole arbiter of what should and shouldn't exist in the world. I guess that could go for any "true" members of the Brotherhood as well. In my mind, Lyons had the right idea. He was still gathering and isolating technology, but also using the vast tech and resources of the Brotherhood to actually give wastelanders a chance to rebuild. If they're going to be cliche` about the whole pseudo-knightly nonsense as Eden called it, they should really go all out. Use your strength to protect the weak. Help rebuild. Help educate. Then they might actually succeed in their goal of preventing Armageddon 2.0. Instead, they take from those who already have next to nothing. They sew seeds of hate and distrust. They deserved their fate in my playthroughs. I just wish they had kept in that little bit about challenging Maxson for Eldership. Damn that would've been an awesome way to shift the plot.
And the sad thing is, that's exactly what the original Brotherhood in Fallout 1 did. They did hoard tech, but they innovated it and were willing to help defend California from the Super Mutant invasion as well as share knowledge after the fact. If anything, the West Coast became so narrow minded in their views that they truly lost what it meant to be the Brotherhood.
I kept hoping that Sarah Lyons and Lyon's Pride was still alive and would eventually show up at some point to challenge Maxson. Such a waste that she died off screen. The BOS was so awesome in FO3 and then they just sucked in 4.
@@Outkasts156 Read a fanfiction about that once...yeah, I agree seeing Sarah Lyons shoot (or otherwise take out) this piece of Nazi trash ("human purity" might as well be "the purity of the arian race")...Maxson is probably the character in Fallout 4 that I like the least! I prefer the nutjobs of the church of atom over him!
@@dreamingflurry2729 Isn't that what the Enclave goes on about - human purity? The Enclave just takes it a little bit further in that they don't see Wastelanders as "pure" enough. Where does it end? I like the Outcasts and Remnants mod specifically because it shows just how different the Brotherhood could be with the right leadership. Although, I still would have preferred to see a more complete ending to Fallout 4 that involved either the creation or destruction/undermining of a new Commonwealth Provisional Government (CPG). I just feel like the story's unfinished in it's current state, no matter which faction you choose (except maybe the Railroad ending because that faction really only cares about the freedom of Synths from the Institute). The Institute still doesn't have control over the Commonwealth in a way that they would actually prefer - direct control, but done from the shadows AKA not compromising their safety. Or maybe the Institute would actively attack settlements and then replace the humans with synths? Then they'd focus on wiping out all ghouls, raiders, Super Mutants, etc in order to secure their supply lines. The Minutemen are still just reacting to trouble, but there's no real attempt to form any kind of government. And the Brotherhood have destroyed the Institute, but then what? Are they going to establish a local base? Head back to the Capital Wasteland? Go somewhere else? There's too many open-ended questions for me. And I feel like settlements would actually try to re-establish the CPG once the Institute is gone - it was a synth that literally killed the first CPG. If you've built up the Minutemen, naturally, they'd prefer they be the enforcement/military/protection arm of the CPG, but would the BoS tolerate that if they were still around? After all, they want to get crops/tribute from settlements in exchange for "protection" (not that they actually respond when settlements that give them tribute are in trouble). Would they want to turn that into a permanent protection racket? They'd have to undermine the Minutemen if they do. Or would they want direct control and prevent the CPG from even forming?
It was more than that. Lyons was the one who was helping to make the Brotherhood strong. The ideals of the western chapters made the Brotherhood weak. I fully believe the western chapters were simply unable to send any more aid. And I believe now that the western chapters are simply clinging to the DC chapter in the hopes that they can benefit.
I love how Doctor Li left the Capital Wasteland and bc the brotherhood was using her creations for weapons/war... only to join the Institute who is pretty much doing the same thing...
@@KK-qm1mr Well in our World. America has base all over the World. So it's likely, that the Enclave made contact with those bases, and convened those bases descendants, to help the Enclave.
Non-canon obviously, but the Tale of Two Wastelands mod makes the Lone Wanderer the Protag of New Vegas as well. I never was interested in the Courier's backstory so I like the idea of using a character that not only has a backstory, but one I fashioned myself (I.e events of F3 and the choices I made).
If you follow that headcanon and if the Lone Wanderer becomes the ruler of New Vegas along with the experiences of all dlcs then they defeated many factions.
There’s really no reason lore-wise why the LW can’t be the Courier. But personally I like the idea of him being a different guy. I’m pretty sure the LW knows what Chicago is. Lol
@@sirmount2636 The cool headcanon is your choice what you think the courier backstory as that Chicago dialogue was one of the options you could have said.
If I were to connect fallout 3 to fallout 4 and maybe have a 5 come out, I think our lone wanderer from vault 101 should have become a ghoul caused from his exposure to radiation at project purity. Then yet that would be me
@@sirmount2636 yes there are plenty of reasons lore wise as to why they aren’t the same person🤦♂️ there’s one line of dialogue that implies he slept with a woman in Montana 18 years before FNV takes place, back when the lore wanderer was a toddler living in a vault. And then there’s all the stuff we learn in Lonesome Road about the couriers backstory that makes it impossible.
I like to think that it was an internal struggle that kills Sarah Lyons. Some of more bitter members thinking they can be better elder assassinated or didn't dispute reinforcement for Sarah, others elder death described vary detailed and Sarah only had one sentence, especially knowing how Arthur was fascinated by her. Which could be for another reason to get rid of her, as a descendant of the legendary Roger Maxson he could not fall under the Lyon new ideology. P.S. I like to think Lone Wanderer saved Sara at the death's door and flee Capital Wasteland until she can recover.
I always found the fate of the Lyons to be a little bit suspect. Something happened to both Lyons in a short time and it just so happens that this outrageously fabled and overzealous Maxon just takes over.
The Purple Shade Except you continently ignore that the terminal says other members tried to lead the brotherhood before Maxson and failed. Maxson loved Sarah Lyons and was a boy when she died.
23:30 the enclave developed the x02 after the war, it's the x01 that was pre-war and served as a prototype for later models such as the Advanced MK2 Power Armor in fallout 2 and new Vegas, as well as the X-02 Advanced power Armor used by the enclave. the hell-fire armor was based on a prototype recovered in vault 51 in Appalachia.
Personally, I would have liked to have seen the events of the Pitt draw the Brotherhood's attention in Fallout 4. Why wouldn't a massive, conspicuous industrial revival be of interest to them? I think Three Dog could have done with a bit more of a presence in the later story. Three Dog was more than a radio jockey, he was emblematic of the emotional heart of Fallout 3's story, and it would have been nice to give him more of an epilogue. Lastly, I really think the Lone Wanderer deserved more of a reputation than he/she had. That was half the fun of Fallout 3--do something cool, become a local hero whose exploits are told over the radio. Honestly, settlers should be telling stories about the player character's role in the conflict. Still, it seems like Fallout 4 continued, ended, or hinted at a lot of stories that Fallout 3 started. The Brotherhood, Madison Li, Sierra Petrovita, Three-Dog (kinda), MacCreedy, Liberty Prime, the Mechanist, the Children of Atom, the super mutant infestation, and, of course, the institute. Really, Fallout 4 felt almost like a direct sequel rather than its own game. It tied up almost every loose end in sight, and that bothers me a little. I think Fallout 76 is where Bethesda is taking the franchise. The saga of the Capital Wasteland feels complete, the way the West Coast storyline felt complete with the ending of New Vegas. They're going to do something new next, and that means that they're likely going to focus future Fallout titles in the era immediately following the events in West Virginia. I think it will make for good games, but I still wanted to see a climactic third entry to East Coast Fallout saga.
No they are not? they sure are not the good guys and they are more Nazi-like but at the least they havn't try to kill every single human (not only ghoul and synth) that for them is a mutant. the brotherhood is nazi-like but the enclave is pure nazism.
@@utentedistaceppa7222 dude i dont think you know what nazi is. I think you mean either xenofobic autoritarian (there soldiers so yes), or isolationist
@@timvanrijn8239 i think that if you kill evrything you think is not human (non feral ghouls, synth, non ostile spermutant) you are act as a nazi, the brotherhood does this things every time they can, even in fallout 3, where they are the good guys. if you don't belive me go to Underworld, they say that the brotherhood shoot at them when they go outside.
We need Fallout 5 to be in Kansas and there should be an encounter with the wild wasteland perk where a house falls from the sky and crushes a lady and inside the house you find a Robobrain named ‘tin man’ I think it would be a funny reference
As amazing as that sounds, I'd like Fallout 5 to be in Ohio. Imagine Serpent Mound as a base for a faction. Maybe even a faction similar to Joshua Graham's Dead Horses or other tribals. We could see the Enclave again since Whitley's logs in New Vegas state that there are Midwestern chapters. I think it would be cool!
I finally finished thus game a couple days ago, I went to every location, every subway, found raven rock before I needed to, I did everything by walking straight after i left the vault, I went to each sat array and it took me a week to decode all the morse code, I killed so many raiders and super mutants and don't get me started on the talon company, I know every inch of fallout 3 and their spawns, got dogmeat and give him about 15 stimpaxs throughout the whole game, had to send him home sometimes because he was too loud, overall it was a great game and a fun learning experience, and this was the 2nd time playing a bestheda game since play oblivion.
@Daniel Williams Every inch? Here is a test, for you or anyone else: 1) Did you find every skillbook, even the one(s) you cannot pick up? 2) Where is the black-faced gnome? (I collected ~25 garden gnomes for my house) 3) Outside what settlement is the toy ball you can kick or throw, but not put in inventory? 4) How are live captives brought inside Vault 87? 5) Can you disprove MATN's assertion that "every subway tunnel looks the same"? I spent 3 000 hours in that world.
"Is there another story you wished had been concluded in Fallout 4?" Me: Uh.... WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO THE LONE WANDERER?! Also, did he ever meet the Courier? And as for the Courier, does anyone think that Kellogg may have met the Courier?
No way Kellogg met the courier. By the time Fallout 4 takes place, Kellogg had been operating in the Commonwealth for well over 60 years, and Fallout 4 only takes place 6 years after Fallout new Vegas. Kellogg would have been on the other side of the US years before the Courier was even born.
What I wanna know is why bring back the wet wipe that is wally mack and not Reilly's rangers, 10/10 my favourite side quest and there was so much more that could have been done
Most the Brotherhood is probably still in D.C, As Paladin Danse Says the Prydwen has 1 *Garrison*, He also informs us that the reason they have so many T-60 power Armor & Vertibirds is because they have intire Factories for there production, there even a Terminal in the upper area of the Prydwen that shows they were having conversations and Even playing Chest with people back in the Capital Wasteland.
They can mass produce T-60s after they took over the Enclave's bases. We only see the crawler but the Enclave was the US government after all. There are likely many more bunkers and underground facilities
i would imagine that as the Capital Wasteland is exporting water and depending on what happened with Harold, it is now a much more civilized place - i doubt the BoS would put that in jeopardy by committing everything.
I'm sure they still govern it and by the time of F4 I'm assuming that all of the super mutants are dead and the raider threat is minimal so they only have to leave behind a few hundred people to govern it
I hope the next story-driven Fallout game sees the return of the Enclave, or at least an Enclave-derived faction. It would be a great experience to lead the rebirth of the Enclave under the player character, and either stick to its core values (evil karma) or reform it (good karma), or even mix old and new (neutral karma). That, and the Enclave Officer uniform is perhaps the best looking outfit I’ve seen thus far, having played F: 3 and F: 4.
i see, so the creation club quests are canon? anyway, I feel like The Lone Wanderer became a Wanderer, with his crew mates from Zeta and just traveled to outer space, and sometimes stops by on Earth, and if the Wanderer ever travels West, he probably took down some of the Legion along the way
he go home after the ending after that and that started Lonesome road he want To find other Couriers and brought them home safe but Ulysses or 'courier 7'became corrupt and want to launch a nuke
Real-world breakaway civilization conspiracy theories have the US crisscrossed by underground maglev train tunnels. Given that the Enclave is inspired by those same theories, it's not out of the question for the series.
Elder maxsons Brotherhood of Steel became strong between Fallout 3 and 4 but in my opinion all of that power went to maxsons head and that soon came to bite him in the ass when a certain Soul Survivor emerged from Vault 111 to reunite the Commonwealth under a blue banner.
Well in my opinion they only became stronger because of what Lyons did, Enclave were destroyed, all tech and scraps from their facilities went into repairing Prime and building the Prydwen. That probably helped a lot in order to get the Outcasts back.
@@butterking211-viewingaccou4 Yeah you are correct but you have to remember that in FO4 very few things actually needed to be done to him, the player fetches a few things for his ammunition and his power but it seems as though Rothchild had already restored his optics and repaired most of his parts, he just needed reassembled.
@@hamstersplural4334 but when you go to destroy the Institute father has a chance of saying "well, we got the reactor working without you" meaning that they got the beryllium agitator before the Brotherhood, therefore prime could not have been repaired fully although I have a feeling that we will see him again but under the Minutemen banner in future Fallout games. My reasoning for this is that if you return to the Boston Airport after the pridwin has crashed the room were primes parts are stored is still intact and undamaged therefore they can be saved.
I like to think the lone wanderer disappeared because of the death of sarah simply put the two of them had a relationship going but when she died and the lone wanderer saw the quagmire the brotherhood turned into ontop of three dog disappearing (if creation club can be believed) he finally had enough and decided to head west to get as far from the brotherhood and his admirers as possible maybe he headed toward Chicago to help the brotherhood there maybe he headed toward Texas down through mexico who knows
What Moira Brown said almost brought a tear in my eye. I worked so HARD trying to help the wasteland, I dealt with Fallout 3 being a buggy mess at times because I loved the stories coming from the fellow wastelanders. I wanted to help, even if I got lost and frustrated and shot at. Thank you Moira for acknowledging us, I hope you can join my Fallout Shelter vault some day.
Its still interesting to me that bethesda never acknowledges that canonically, there are cars are still driveable in the fallout universe (fallout 2 tells us this). i just thought about it because i had a weird thought of Madison Li driving around in a rusty old highwayman
X01 is a post-war Power Armor as it first appears in Fallout 2, however, Bethesda retconned the lore when Nuka World came out. They also did the same thing with Jet. It was originally created by Myron, but it’s a pre-war chem in Fallout 4.
9:10 She never caught on to Ronald's advances, cause (for me) the lone wanderer offered to give him a threesome if he helped me get the 30 nuka cola quantums, but he was torn apart by a deathclaw along the way. I love the black widow perk!
I get the sense that a lot of the conflict between power armor versions and canonical info boils down to an interpretation of what it means for something to be cutting edge before the war vs. something to be cutting edge /during/ the war.
Well t-45 was the base version, t-60 was a upgraded version of the t-45 and had more armor. t-51 has less armor but more R&D spent on t-51 and was the leading suit to go to front line troops so it was probably the more high tech suit compared too pre war suits such as t-45, t-51 and t-60. T-60 was used by the National defense because they were cheaper and easily manufactured.
@@TheDmantheman100 X-01 is pre bomb. It's a prototype. The enclave probably found the data or a complete set and based their Advanced Power Armor on it.
Honestly though, I wish there was a mod or even a game where a previous player character was made into a companion. Because how damn cool would it be to have the leader of a faction turn out to be the sole survivor, and you could choose what ending you had.
I think they are equal they both have nukes from lonesome Road and Fort Constantine they can both manufacture power armour 51b from the shi and t60 from addams airforce base the ncr has mechanised vehicles thanks to shi bio fuel and the brotherhood has vertibirds and the prdydwing. The ncr has van graff plasma weapons the brotherhood has laser gatlings the ncr does lead in agriculture, medicine and energy thanks to the followers and if the ncr won or house survived they will have access to his robots either by schematics or from factories he said he was going to build. But the brotherhood has liberty prime.
orion k Oh no neither the NCR or Eastern BOS technically have a hold on the Divide or Fort Constantine. The Hopeville silo was connected to Navarro meaning that it belonged to the Enclave and the only nukes we see the BOS use are the small nukes that Liberty Prime uses
The brotherhood is the most powerful faction in terms of technology,armor,weapons,the air ship,vertibirds and liberty prime The NCR has numbers and experienced snipers I'm saying logical sense and you don't see it that's all.
It's weird how Maxson's Brotherhood looks down on the Lyons Era. As stated in the video, they...did a lot. (Re)Discovered the Pentagon, Liberty Prime...cleaned out Pittsburgh, defeated the Enclave, continued Project Purity..."complacent stragglers" isn't what I would call the Brotherhood in the Capital Wasteland. They were pretty damn successful. Maybe Maxson is just trying to make a name for himself after so many Elders after Lyons failed. Or it could be Bethesda's writing. The situation surrounding Dr. Zimmer is odd. As stated in the video, Father states that "he's *still* offline". He refers to Kellogg in the same manner, but doesn't use the word "still"...implying that he's still alive? I don't know. I feel that Zimmer is actually getting those 'high profile' synths. Great video. Always look forward to anything Fallout from Oxhorn.
10 years is a long time. Those successes made them complacent, and after the Lyonses died there were a lot of bad elders. Plus consider who you talk to, a lot were likely outcasts 10 years ago
Well if you believe the theory that Deacon is the Lone Wanderer and that Father is secretly James, the Madison Li doesn’t really lose her love, yet. The gist of it is that Deacon came from Capital Wasteland which was confirmed. We know he has undergone sex and facial reconstructions, and as such no one know what his original sex or appearance was. He had a history with MacCready as referenced in their chatter and even he knew Maxson when he was a squire. He also oddly knows the original recall code that Dr. Zimmer told the Lone Wanderer. He mentions coming to the commonwealth to find someone dear to him. After the institute is destroyed he will mentioned having finally found them and not being sure what to think. During my railroad playthrough I found Deacon beside father’s bed after he went missing during the fight.
Doubt it'll happen to be honest because he would just be remaking a significant portion of his videos, which I would imagine would provoke a lot of people who'd consider it being lazy
Im glad that even after years later, Morira Brown still remembers the lone wanderer in her records
That is cool
timestamp?
I'd like to think she hooked up with my Lone Wanderer, but it seems there wasn't any such lasting partnership.
Thagomizer she’s kind of annoying and I could not imagine anyone hooking up wither her. Plus, there’s a weird age gap
@@LucyWest370 She's what, 5 years older than the Lone Wanderer?
Wow, she walked from fallout 3 to fallout 4 in heels.
Queen!
She claims this, though probably she met up with her Institute sources in DC. If she did walk she had a long trip as nobody goes near the NYC area. Though there is some suggestion that BOS did fly over it. As we hear, buildings and towers seem to still exist there and that is a good sign for any future NYC Fallout. Though the BOS lady could have meant Philadelphia or even Baltimore as far as we know. That being said, Deacon suggests Boston Commonwealth and DC had some trading networks, so perhaps there is a guarded safe trade route she could have taken.
lol thats why it took so many years for them to bring fo4 out, she had to walk LOL
@@Kannar22 Well I was curious how long it would take to travel from DC to Boston and discovered a normal driving time be 7 Hours and 10 or 15 Minutes. I discovered someone has attempted it, though they did it from Boston to DC. Though they were just starting it and I cannot find out if they finished nor how long it took, the walker stated they were expecting it to take 22 to 23 days. Here though we have a few issues, within Fallout. She would have to go around NYC (Fallout Lore suggests NYC is gone and the one description of it is that it is a large crater), which person above walked through it. Meaning a day or more travel. Since most of the Majour roadways are probably intact outside of urban areas, she wouldn't have issues, though going through places like Baltimore and probably Jersey would cause issues as people may now guarding or even settled on them (Meaning they also might be blocking access). Because it now appears you may walk from Boston to DC within a months time and because she would be healthy and used to survive in such a World. I would guess it only took her a couple months to do it, even in heels, which I doubt she would have done. I say this because heels are not made for long-distance travel. That being said, I'd guess it took her two to three months.
Li is a badass
Fallout 3: ends
The npcs : aight imma head to Commonwealth
welp, yeah, mcready said that the capital wasteland is shit
@@xYottabyte And he's not wrong, the comparing the Commonwealth to the Capital Wasteland, it's better than the ruins of D.C., especially since it's full of Super Mutants.
@@jaimecavazos4745 They just left the Super Mutants to roam free in the Capital Wasteland? Not exterminating them for the protection of D.C's populace? Hm. Always thought that the Brotherhood would turn The Capital Wasteland into a country. Guess that's too progressive for Bethesda writers liking :/.
@@nagihangot6133 Well, we don't know if the Brotherhood from the Capital Wasteland fully eradicated the Super Mutants, but judging from the terminals in the Prydwen, they did wiped them out, especially after killing a super mutant leader named Shepherd
@@nagihangot6133 They probably did. And seeing how authoritarian, human supremacist and just generally abusive the Brotherhood is in Fallout 4, we can assume the C.W isn't the best place to live for a mercenary like Maccready.
Sad to see the BOS has forgotten about the person who saved them from the enclave:/
Yeah it's sad
I mean I don't think they forgot. I think it is more real. Individuals who are forgotten to history and records for more public use because organizations deem them not important enough or deem them distracting. BOS probably remember though, they just deem it more as an effort of everyone and especially Sarah Lyons team. Most BOS probably saw the Lone Wander more as a member of the BOS and that elite squad. I mean I am trying to put into perspective of how an intiate or recurit might learn about the enclave and the war.
Hardly forgetful, they Despise them.
Lord Penguin Yeah, they’re most likely just forgotten in the grand scheme of things, unfortunately.
@SMBComix i disagree, it takes away importance from what you did in the previous games. The best way us how Bioware did with the Mass Effect Trilogy, where the game checks if saves of previous games are present and shape the world upon it. Even Xenoverse 2 did it, the player character from the first game is present in the story. It would be nice to see our own Lone Wanderer in Fallout 4.
MacCready will occasionally say, "You think things are bad here? You should see the Capital Wasteland". So apparently things went to hell there despite Project Purity.
I think it just remains largely unchanged over the years, at least The Commonwealth has some orginized settlements.
@@DurtyDan Idk, it's pretty much the same. Capital Wasteland has Megaton, Rivet City, Arefu, Tenpenny Tower, Citadel, Republic Of Dave, Underworld... Plenty of settlements with inhabitants living their lives.
MacCready has a point the ghouls looked more terrifying there, and the mutants in 4 just look like a bunch of jackasses in aviation helmets lol
I liked to think that he meant things literaly were just uglier in the Capital Wasteland. Like, it always has gray skies, black trees, etc. That rather than the visual differences between 3 and 4 being due to different levels of technology and a different artistic trend (black and brown and gray and bloom lighting was all the rage when FO3 was made), that it literally is just like that. That the Capital Wasteland simply is a bleaker, drearier, more heavily-bombed area than the Commonwealth.
Either the Brotherhood of Steel has made things worse by taking over or they just aren't capable of dealing with all the raiders, slavers, and mutants.
Wouldn't it suck to go on a life-changing adventure across the capital wasteland, saving (or ending) the lives of many, finding your lost father, and providing clean water to the residents of said wasteland, then to get abducted by aliens and never seen again?
Actually not
My saves fucked up during mothership zeta so this actually happened to my character lmao
Mine would be happy to not be a slave.
Surely you mean stealing an alien ship. After smoking the aliens then beaming Sarah Lyon's up. To go have kinky space times Kirk style....These are the voyages of the starship zetan and thier five year mission....
@@LanMandragon1720 get this man a fucking studio STAT
A group of Gary's made a decision to become the mysterious stranger
Gary is the delivery guy in Skyrim who always knows exactly where to find you after you use a shout...
Gaaaaary!
noir gamingX maybe the mysterious stranger is a synth. Think about it. He doesnt age, can teleport everywhere, and super strong.
OMG yes and he pertects you because he thinks you're a Gary since in every fallout you start out with a vault jumpsuit
noir gamingX 🤯🤯🤯🤯 makes as much sense as the mysterious stranger himself
Mayor MaCreedy, from Little Lamplight, eventually became... a mungo!
cracked me up.
It happens to the best of us.
Lol
ngl I hated all those brats at little lamplight, I considered saving the game and killing them all but thought that it was a little sadistic.
@@homicideamplified7526 cant kill kids in F3
@@Lance-The-BoS-Lancer 0/10 game dont buy
“You have no idea what I went through...the choices I had to make...”
*insert flashback of Kid in the Fridge
BILLY
**INDIANA JONES MUSIC INTENSIFIES**
I dunno she sounds kinda like a sissy to me
@@Revolutionary_Fish
Fallout NV Wild Wasteland noises intensivies
Kid in the fridge?!?! Hahahaha
*Oxhorn smoking a cigar after a one night stand*
“Do you, by any chance, know your fallout lore?”
Duck and cover?
Lol
Lol
Dont think he is a guy for that
@cloudykai uem ke
The wasteland survival guide is found even in the Mohave too.
Pretty sure that's cause they used assets from fallout 3 in new Vegas.
The wasteland survive guide is found in the Mojave
Mojave*
noted, thanks
Yep it's pretty easy to find
2:03 that portion of voice acting is honestly the greatest single instance of VA I've ever heard, every time I hear her screaming it sounds so genuine I get completely enthralled in the situation. Totally underrated actress.
Jacqueline its the best we’ve probably seen in a Bethesda game. Aside from Graham
@Jacqueline Chatão tu menó
“Tell 'em to make it count.”
i can feel the feeling of Li thinking "DAMN YOU BOS OPEN THIS DAMNED GATE"
Arthur Morgan Skyrim had really good voice acting,
“Some say the lone wanderer traveled west, in search of new adventures.”
*Fallout: A Tale of Two Wastelands* story in a nutshell.
TTW is pretty good, but I tend to see Fallout New California as the (unofficial) cannon to the courier's past.
@@darandomator4010 why do you see a bad mod as canon
@@darandomator4010 Finally! Someone who says that the LW becomes the Courier, well at least in my canon that happens.
@@thekid6258 The Lone Courier - Fallouts ultimate super badass.
@@rpgswithwe how about you make your own dlc sized mods. We'll see which one is bad
What I find most unnerving, is while all this was going on in the Capitol Wasteland, and the events in the Mojave, Nate and Nora were frozen in pods.
I just realized. If Shaun was kidnapped 60 years before Nate woke up, and FO4 takes place 10 years after 3, then Nora would be dead during FO3/NV. And would've been dead for roughly50 years by time FO3 events happened. Still frozen, but dead
Nah, Noras dead
@@taxult or Nate depending on the gender you pick.
Joel Toledo yes indeed
@@Eventualmoss315 I'm just gonna assume Nate is the canon sole survivor.
Lyons didn't die, The Lone Wanderer just zooped his girlfriend up to his spaceship and left a toasted set of power armor on the ground to throw the Brotherhood off. Change my mind
LW: i have spaceship your argument is invalide
Totally. Who'd want to hang around in a miserable Wasteland while there's an entire galaxy waiting to be explored? Sarah x LW as space adventurers is canon.
Ha, Lol! Captain Cosmos but better
Star Trek theme starts playing
I don’t think I can.
44:56 imagine prydwen makes an entrance and a few seconds later it blows up because some minutemen on artillery got drunk and decided it would be funny to blow up the flying ship
Hank dude look a flying boat.
I am gonne shoot it
In one questline the Miniuemen do take out the ship. Use several artillary from different settlements firing at the same time.
@@timvanrijn8239 "I'm glad the general keeps putting these cannons in every settlement.
Imagine the sole survivor takes the prydwen and have his own faction men and women in power armor and vertibirds , any are welcome to join all you need is to care to make a difference and a suit of power armor , we will take all the power armor and vertibirds in the Commonwealth and go on a war against the super mutants, ghouls and raiders and burn them out and take the institute and take all their tech , and use the mechanicist lair to mass produce all the sentribots and assaultrons and leave in the prydwen full of resources and technology and go to the Capitol wasteland and wade waste to the mutant etc and free the land of darkness and go place to place freeing people
"Do not interfer-" *Thoom*
I wonder if Fawkes travelled West and somehow met up with Marcus.
I think it was originally planned for Fawkes to appear in New Vegas. At least, that was a rumor I heard.
@@christianjohnson5379 I get why you'd think that but there was no evidence to support that Fawkes was going to be in New Vegas because there was no character model or voice Lines in the files.
@@butterking211-viewingaccou4 like I said, it was just a rumor I heard. The rumor was he was going to end up in Jacobstown.
If he did, I hope he brought Uncle Leo along.
I love Super Mutants always cute and funny how they fight/talk during combat.
According to Moira's logs, it sounds like it's official the lone wanderer told Lucas Simms that Burke wanted to blow up the town, and Simms was murdered by Burke during the failed arrest.
Are we forgetting the conclusion of the most important story from Fallout 3 to 4!?
*Hack, Whack, Choppin' that meat!*
We flipped the record over. Turns out we had, in fact, seen somethin' already.
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I hate that song so much. I dont care about progress anymore, all I have to do is hear a single second of that song and I unplug my station.
When you’re parents leave for 0.0005 seconds
I swear, that song gets stuck in my head sometimes
Dr. Li: “you have no idea what I’ve been through”
*me finding the institute after completing fallout 3*
“I’m gonna have to stop you right there🤚”
Completed fallout 3 on hard mode.
ik right lets ignore the lone wanderers existence lmao
@@abzue5375 holy crap I didn’t know this had so many likes
@@caprsun6633 its weird how it has 271 likes but only 4 comments. *wack*
Yeaaaah.
Li is kinda a hypocrite because that is exactly what the Institute is doing, but worse, killing innocent people to spread their influence and turn everyone into machines.
I'm trying to listen to the narration but all I can think of is how ineffective that rocket launcher is...
I didn't hear a fucking word he was saying. All I could focus on is that lame fucking rocket launcher 😂😂
I thought you were talking about that literally defective missile launcher from Fallout 3, that fired shitty rockets that bounced like grenades, then I saw what you meant and I'm somehow MORE disappointed.
Mate once you get in on some perks,
my mighty ML (legendary) does 828 damage, no enemy can withstand a full salvo, yeah the splash damage is horrific but thats what my Splattercanon is for
Humans face tanking missiles is what put me off playing fallout 4. They just become bullet sponges over time.
I thought they learned the flaws of endlessly scaling enemies with oblivion?
@@Madhattersinjeans you need to play survival
Did the Republic of Dave finally Annex the Capital Wasteland? :)
- Red - I would have loved to encounter an older, grizzled yet still deluded Dave wandering the commonwealth looking to set up Davania.
No but the bos proably set up a civilian branch to handle the small people problems
No Dave died, and become Death Claw Lunch. The People in the 'Republic' soon turned on one other, and the town was quickly abandoned to the Wasteland.
Bob went to form 'the Kingdom of Bob' but was wiped out by the Brotherhood, when Bob raided a water caravan.
Rosie was elected as the new President, but was killed in office. And the Republic was trown into ancary.
Jessica killed her self after she lenard of Dave's death.
Shawna lead the childern away, but Raiders ambushes them. She was killed during the ambush.
The Childern where sold off to paradise fall slavers. However, one day. The Childern rose up, and over thown there captors, and formed the 'Republic of the Falls'.
@@fristnamelastname5549
Saddest story I've ever read, mate...
4 should of had that as a faction, fuck the railroad. Go republic of dave. But your character needs to be named dave
I find it interesting, when speaking of the Lone Wonderer, that M. Brown says most people couldn't agree regarding the gender (male or female) but most people didn't know the person. She knew the LW personally and frequently referred to the LW as a "he, him". This is not the first time the canonical gender of a previous protagonist is the male version. This was also the case in Fallout 1
Same with Fallout 2's chosen one being male as in F:NV it's all but outright stated he fathered a child in new Reno with one of the crime family daughters
@@katofdarkcrest Yes! I recently heard about that in Oxhorn's video "An Epilogue to Fallout 2". That is interesting! There is one other thing Oxhorn forgot to mention; the Lone Wonderer's canonical "race". We find a picture of James and
Catherine in Falout new Vegas' vault 21. James' race is Caucasian in that picture. In order to get James to be Caucasian, the player must select the Caucasian race for the Lone wonderer. Couple this with Moira brown's message mentioning his gender and we can conclude that the canonical Lone Wondered is a Caucasian male with good karma.
I’m fairly sure the Courier is also Male, as he is referred to as he, but also canonically had a child some 18 years before New Vegas happened, also In pretty sure it was confirmed by devs.
By default, all fallout games' protagonists are male. All quests are written for the male protagonist first. However, for some reason, I find playing as female in Fallout 3 is better than playing male.
If you think about it between time and most visits to anywhere your character is usually armored up face covered with bandanas and sunglasses,helmets, armor, etc. Plus moira was a synth no wonder she doesn't remember what gender you were🙃
As much as I adore the Brotherhood, I can't help but express my disappointment in Arthur Maxon: Owen and Sarah Lyons took him in, mentored him, cared for him... yet he dragged their names through the mud all the same, all to further his own goals.
Roger Maxon would be ashamed.
Not to mention the circumstances surrounding Sarah Lyons border on assassination courtesy of a plasma bolt to the back of the head by Maxson.
I would have to agree. Roger Maxon was noble enough to rebel against his own gov't for heinous actions. 200 years later, the Brotherhood is pretty powerful and can use the technology they've gathered from the years to actually help people. Otherwise, what's the point?
“You have no idea what I went through, the choices I had to make” “Yeah Ik I just watched my entire life be destroyed under an atomic bomb, my home everything I loved destroyed, only to loose my family and loving wife soon after. And choices I HAD to make, keeping you alive is one of them.”
Dima is one of my least favorite characters across all the Fallout games
I honestly miss the Lyon's Brotherhood. They were the good guys that tried to use their technology to help the Wasteland. Fallout 4's Brotherhood just seems like the Enclave if you ask me.
Yeah It was really poor writing to just have Sarah Lyons be killed off screen and only being able to find out on a terminal. But it makes sense if the Lyons pride was killed then they might just revert back to the codex
If you played through Fallout 1 and 2, you'd realize that F4's Brotherhood is what the Brotherhood should be. They're not like the Enclave (who are introduced and explained in F2) at all.
Edit: actually, I was wrong. The Brotherhood should be more akin to Fallout New Vegas, where they have weakened severely. That's what F2 set up.
@@J05TI The Midwest Brotherhood of Steel showed that there is another way.
@@jakespacepiratee3740 Are you referring to the events of Tactics? Since it retcons the origin of the Brotherhood, among other things, I don't think that game is canon.
@@J05TI and yet, its pivotal events are referenced in Fallout 3 and Fallout 4. What we are actually seeing here is an unreliable narrator, the Midwest Chapter of the Brotherhood of Steel has been disconnected from the Western Chapter for a while now, so they have their own interpretations of events. The likely accurate origins of the Midwest Chapter is that they were originally Vault Dwellers who were discovered by the Western BoS, but the Vault Dwellers had a more positive, ambitious perspective, which caused them to be exiled to Chicago.
“The brotherhood of steel is the most powerful force in the wasteland!”
NCR: *“Come again, ni**a?”*
This is so underrated!!!
It depends where you are in the wasteland, the NCR isn't in a lot of areas, like the Capital Wasteland or the Commonwealth, while the Brotherhood has chapters nearly everywhere. Though you get the NCR and the Brotherhood in a fight and the NCR would win, as shown by Helios One and the state of the Nevada chapter in Fallout New Vegas.
Legion in Arizona
Hell yeah the brotherhood is way better
Aswd fish at losing and getting their airship blown up.
The Lone Wanderer went on to conquer the Galaxy with the Zetan Mothership.
I heard he took a few Enclave remnants with him, called themselves the, *_TSC_* or something.
And he went on to create The Guardians of the Galaxy!
@@CaptPatrick01 I feel like i'm the only one who gets the reference.
Serasia and he met the avengers and got himself knocked out by war machine
Lw: i am escaping to the one place that isnt corrupted by communisme. ASPACE!!!!!
I love how some bits of Fallout 3 was carried out to Fallout 4. It feels so connected
Almost as if 4 is related to 3 2 and 1. Crazy innit?
@@drprocess3816 they could have easily done what they did to New Vegas. Maybe a slight name drop and that's it. No lore carry over
@@brycevoThere are at least a few references to Mr. House and the Mojave. I would have to look deeper for more references.
@@KK-qm1mr they name drop House and his RobCo, and Sunset sarsaparilla
Isn't it just pandering
I always took the BoS terminal entries about Arthur Maxon with a massive grain of salt. They read more like bad propaganda than actual history.
Indeed. You also have to question if the "incompetent" elder were actually incompetent or simply less traditional?
@@almorium6216 It reminds me of the Legion, you know? That whole idea of blinding adhering to one ruler's wishes?
Almorium Why? Maxson will literally lead the charge against the Institute in his dope ass coat carrying a Gatling laser and he’s only 20. The man has strength.
Caesar was literally an old ass man who was former followers of apocalypse most his life.
However some of that terminal is clear propaganda lol
Almorium Except they can’t you made them do that. No normal npc does that on there own but Maxson.
No he got that position cause 1. He’s the last heir to Roger Maxson and 2. He is a good leader. He reintegrated the outcasts into the Bos, has increased the Bos Numbers, supplies and technology while showing care and strength to his soldiers.
You seem to forget Lyons was failing in everything until The lone wanderer came around, His chapter was splintered, restricted to inner DC, his supplies were running low and Bos recruits were becoming untrained and unskilled as they were pushed out into the meat grinder with mere 10mm SMGs.
Maxson United the Bos and turned it into a major east coast powerhouse without the player holding his hand. If he was a dictator he would have court marshaled Ingram who disobey his direct order by going to Mass fusion.
I like the idea that after Elder Lyons died of old age, the Outcasts assassinated Sarah and the Lone Wanderer was so pissed off by it he left in disgust. The Outcasts then used Arthur as a puppet and began to turn the Capital Wasteland into a fiefdom.
The Brotherhood's new mission of cleansing the wasteland sounds an awful lot like The Enclave.
Cleansing it from mutants raiders slavers and ghouls.
Or cleansing it from everything with post war mutations.
One of these seems worse some how
The BoS's views are less extreme than the Enclave, but Maxson showed us it only takes one charismatic leader to tip the scales. I wouldn't be surprised if destroying the Prydwen (any ending would work really) could result in a far less tolerant Elder being elected. Escalation of suspicions and ideals would them lead to a more isolated Brotherhood like a worse western branch.
@@almorium6216 Enclave under Eden due to John Henry Eden being massively extreme, which even brought the ZAX into conflict with MODUS (cut communication) and Colonel Autumn (immediate split and civil war), MODUS'es Enclave actually encourages mutation, seeing of the various "tests" and creating battle ready serums that would mutate soldiers for combat suppressing the negative effects.
@@timvanrijn8239 kill anyone that isn't them. Unless you have a faction like the legion, raiders will never go away.
Both of them suck, This is why I see Elder Maxson as a Weakling, he leads the Brotherhood against all without a worthy cause, his only feat was based on strength and charisma, not intelligence, not for experience, strength and personality, wich is good material for a Leader, but without wisdom and a good objective, is useless.
The only difference between the Enclave and the Brotherhood is that the brotherhood has the same irradiated DNA unlike the Enclave, if they were pure, they would be seeking to destroy not only the mutants, but also the humans with irradiated DNA, and being slayed as well, this is why In my first playthrough I joined the Minutemen, you can say whatever you want about Lyons, but he was a better Leader than this blimp-isolationist weakling.
i mean, i dont think wally was wrong to think radiation would give powers *laughs in marsupial and speed demon*
But he wasn't in West Virginia... 😅
Class freak , strange in numbers FTW
well if he wasn't a target of the soul survivor, he may have lived in the metro for an eternity, so he wasn't wrong about being immortal.
It’s really cool how they connected the Institute to Fallout 3 as a rumored “scientific community” before they were even sure what they were going to name it
No in the replicated man quest the instute and the railroad are mentioned by name as being in the commeweth
Nah, Dr Zimmer refers to it by name as the Institute in Fallout 3 when he asks you to find the synth.
I kinda think there's been a bigger plan all along, Marvel Style, but fallout 76 kinda f#(ked things up so we have to wait longer.
After finishing Fallout 3, the thing that made the most sense - especially for my character - was that the Lone Wanderer went back to Mothership Zeta and learned all they could from the alien technology. There, he used the technological wonders on the ship to help the people of the wasteland. As time went on, he recruited people to help - That's why there are conflicting stories about who "The Lone Wanderer" is.
Likely he or she unfroze the remaining captives in the Zeta mothership before all that. If I remember correctly, there were ALOT of cryotubes in that ship. Maybe he found a safe part in the world and started a new colony with the people in cryosleep.
ED-E was also built at Adams Air-Force base. He was sent from there because of the BoS-Enclave conflict.
MacCready has such a tragic story. Hard to believe he was sheriff of Little Lamp Light only to find misery afterwards.
Well you get kicked out at 16, and Big Town is nothing but misery and tragedy
We need an epilogue of fallout new Vegas and a fallout 4
true
We can’t really do an epilogue of Fallout 4 until the next main Fallout game
And we know little to nothing of what's transpired in the Mojave in the years since New Vegas. Not enough post-game lore to go on for either installment, and it will likely stay that way for a long while yet; with both Starfield and TES VI still on the way, it will be a good while before we get Fallout 5 to advance the timeline.
@@therealkaz5824 but each fallout isn't based on each chapter
@@caitlinspry6278 can you elaborate?
The most important questions from fallout 3 are left unanswered. ... What was the fate of harold the tree man. And what happened to the republic of dave
Harold lives many live times till some bos find him and either freehim from herbert or kill him.
I think free he did profide the land with easy builing materials.
And dave dies his son takes over one of the moms proably runs off to canterbury
It suddenly hit that in Fallout 4, the Brotherhood sorta start acting like the Enclave did in 2, and that's horrifying.
If you have played Fallout 1, 2 and New Vegas, you'd understand that the BoS in Fallout 4 behaves more closely to the Brotherhood in those games, than what we saw with Lyon's BoS in Fallout 3. Hell, even Lyon's Brotherhood still hates Ghouls and hoards tech still, they're just more nicer by helping the people of the Capital Wasteland, which like Outcasts have said, goes against the Brotherhood's goals and beliefs.
Madison has to suspicious that everywhere she goes some vault person is running wild through the wasteland
Lone Wonderer, Vault Dweller and Courier met with very old tribal from Arroyo and become 4 Horseman on Apocalypse, which you can encounter in fallout tactics :D
Which is not cannon at all
I absolutely love how the Fallout games connect to each other so well. It really makes the Fallout world feel so alive. I hope future games, if there will be any, continue this...
Now that's a funny joke
Seeing how 76 went... Nah, we're better off reading fanfiction
Funne
Fallout 3 was my first introduction to the franchise. I fell in love with the Lyons pride, I had so much respect for elder lyons ethics and everything he did for the waste . Finding out what the brotherhood was really like sucked, then in fallout 4 seeing what the lyons pride turned into was worse. I immediately opened up my old fallout 3 play through and used console commands to kill maxon
In FO3 I recruited little Maxon and he did okay for a couple days, then three Supermutant Brutes surrounded and clubbed him to death. He was then just a legendary stain on the landscape.
It took me like six play throughs to blow up megaton. I had a real hard time and only did it for the trophy
Then loaded the save before i did it. I just could not bring my self to kill like that and stick with it
Jeez man a little much dont'cha think
@@chumking no that is just the type of person i am. Hey everytime i played i felt bad because my character got to know each other and i did not agree with tenpenny. Now when i play it is way easier. That is my flaw. Whether real or just an NPC I play the game as if though that character was me.
Lol, ikr I do love Lyons pride full of bravery and sacrifice for the greater good and good fight especially Sarah Lyons god she was hot and awesome , elder Lyons was great as a wise caring father who acts like he has to save the world from darkness, and the power armor is great to put that on and wield a plasma rifle being flown in by vertibird to a warzone either against the enclave, super mutants or talons company , jumping in with guns blazing , explosives blowing up ,bullets flying , assaulting heavy defenses on the Frontline to make a difference to the people and wasteland, taking out the enclave taking their Power armor and put it on more brotherhood initiates to have more knights in the field adding more numbers to our ranks expanding beyond the horizon
There's something about hearing Oxhorn yell "to victory" and then hearing "ad victoriam" chanted over and over that makes me patriotic to an army that doesn't exist
I would have liked to see a different ending to the Lyons and Lyons. Given how much interaction the Lone Wanderer had with the two, they kinda deserved a better outcome than dying shortly after the events and disappearing from history. Maybe a NCR kind of thing, where during the next game you find them well established and in the process of growing, but as a separate chapter from the West, taking in recruits from the local populace similar to Tactics rather than the complete xenophobia of the West. Afterall, Lyons did produce results: a safe base of operations with access to nearly unlimited pure water, access to a treasure trove of technology and the near complete eradication of a technologically superior enemy within weeks and using depleted forces. The Maxson brat could have done well to remember the teachings and achievements of his mentor.
I bet that Sarah Lyons was killed by “Friendly Fire” and was covered up as a heroic last stand
aka Pat Tillman
I'll put money on that.
Brotherhood Paladin: Hey check out this triple beam laser Rilfe, I found!
Sarah: Hey, that's cool. But can you point it some where els...
*Paladin fire the new rilfe*
Brotherhood Paladin: Oh whoops! How did that happen?
Brotherhood Knight: Ummm....Let's say she died when Super fricks got her.
Brotherhood Paladin: Ya, we'll say that!
@@rifleshooterchannel208 Exactly.
Maxson over there sounding like the post apocalyptic American Kim Jong Un
From an unknown vault dweller to a known vault dweller. The Lone Wanderer has come a long way...
Edit: Kinda wished we see a grown Marie too.
How would she take over The Pitt or be a wanderer? She would only be 10 at the time of FO4.
@@Jake1702 afterward or something
The princes of the pitt.
12-15
Narrator: "Where they worshipped in peace, free from interruption from the rest of humanity."
Sole Survivor: *Loads Fatman with Malicious Intent*
The Brotherhood of Fallout 4 never sat well with me, They're more organized, and equipped then they were 11 years ago but they spit on the memory and reputation of Lyons. They wouldn't be what they are without the direction and leadership of Owen Lyons. Then comes in a kid with hot headed ambitions. I remember that scene in the first Thor movie where Thor argues with Odin in the Byfrost and Odin says
"YOU ARE A VAIN, GREEDY, CRUEL BOY."
And Thor yells back "AND YOU'RE AND OLD MAN AND A FOOL!"
Replace Odin and Thor with Owen and Arthur, that's How I see these 2 leaders. One a leader seasoned by experience, unwilling to commit lives and resources unless it's worthy. The other believes the BOS has some kind of divine providence to decide who or what gets to use tech, willing to throw the heft of the BOS at an "enemy" that could undue everything they've built since project purity and Adams AFB. Siding with the BOS in F4 left a sour taste in my mouth, it felt like siding with the barbarians that burned down the library of Alexandria. But siding with the institute felt like siding with robo-nazi's.
Join the Minute Men and blow em both up. In the world of Fallout war never changes and nothing good lasts.
FO4's Brotherhood- MAXSON'S brotherhood- are nothing more than the inheritors of the Enclave's throne. They are obsessed with purity, they are a military dictatorship, and they are EXTREMELY xenophobic.
The only difference is that the Enclave wanted to build communities, to have something to rule OVER. The Brotherhood has no such ambitions- they just want to destroy or control anything they think is "too dangerous" for "common people" to have.
I believe that BOS should forget about Lyons if there just gonna be haten on him
In a world like that of Fallout Maxon might actually be a better leader than Lyons, you need warriors to handle that environment, that's what Maxon was, a warrior not a politician.
Yes but this violince is not helping rebuild government, just clean it
Did you people ever play Fallout?
That’s the *real* BOS, elitist militant scumbags.
The Gary blocks could have been made by someone just named Gary, but it is fun to think this person is a Gary clone
I wish they had a dead Gary in every Fallout game. It would have been a great easter egg.
They appear in vault 95 as well.
Gary? Gary? Gary, Gary. GAAARRRY?
Gary the true Faction that will restore humanity to its FORMER GLORY!!! Hoowah!
A mistake video makes, another Gary does indeed appear. He appears as a body in Operation: Anchorage, in a room before you go under. They had kidnapped him and attempted to use his Pip-Boy. When found, the Pip-Boy arm is missing.
Is that family friend MacCreedy left his son with the ...
Lone Wanderer!!!!
Well could be Jonas in big town.
But thats no fun sure
Or Red in Big Town. Maybe, the Lone Wanderer did stay.
Unlike the Courier, the Lone Wanderer probably, stayed to farm the land near where he grew up. (Vault 101)
The lone wanderer is now actually in point look at living in Blackhall Manor
Yeah.... As much as Maxson claimed it wasn't about his ego or his vanity, his actions proved otherwise. The man is so full of himself to think that he alone is the sole arbiter of what should and shouldn't exist in the world. I guess that could go for any "true" members of the Brotherhood as well. In my mind, Lyons had the right idea. He was still gathering and isolating technology, but also using the vast tech and resources of the Brotherhood to actually give wastelanders a chance to rebuild. If they're going to be cliche` about the whole pseudo-knightly nonsense as Eden called it, they should really go all out. Use your strength to protect the weak. Help rebuild. Help educate. Then they might actually succeed in their goal of preventing Armageddon 2.0. Instead, they take from those who already have next to nothing. They sew seeds of hate and distrust. They deserved their fate in my playthroughs. I just wish they had kept in that little bit about challenging Maxson for Eldership. Damn that would've been an awesome way to shift the plot.
And the sad thing is, that's exactly what the original Brotherhood in Fallout 1 did. They did hoard tech, but they innovated it and were willing to help defend California from the Super Mutant invasion as well as share knowledge after the fact. If anything, the West Coast became so narrow minded in their views that they truly lost what it meant to be the Brotherhood.
I kept hoping that Sarah Lyons and Lyon's Pride was still alive and would eventually show up at some point to challenge Maxson. Such a waste that she died off screen. The BOS was so awesome in FO3 and then they just sucked in 4.
@@Outkasts156 Read a fanfiction about that once...yeah, I agree seeing Sarah Lyons shoot (or otherwise take out) this piece of Nazi trash ("human purity" might as well be "the purity of the arian race")...Maxson is probably the character in Fallout 4 that I like the least! I prefer the nutjobs of the church of atom over him!
@@dreamingflurry2729 Isn't that what the Enclave goes on about - human purity? The Enclave just takes it a little bit further in that they don't see Wastelanders as "pure" enough. Where does it end?
I like the Outcasts and Remnants mod specifically because it shows just how different the Brotherhood could be with the right leadership. Although, I still would have preferred to see a more complete ending to Fallout 4 that involved either the creation or destruction/undermining of a new Commonwealth Provisional Government (CPG). I just feel like the story's unfinished in it's current state, no matter which faction you choose (except maybe the Railroad ending because that faction really only cares about the freedom of Synths from the Institute).
The Institute still doesn't have control over the Commonwealth in a way that they would actually prefer - direct control, but done from the shadows AKA not compromising their safety. Or maybe the Institute would actively attack settlements and then replace the humans with synths? Then they'd focus on wiping out all ghouls, raiders, Super Mutants, etc in order to secure their supply lines. The Minutemen are still just reacting to trouble, but there's no real attempt to form any kind of government. And the Brotherhood have destroyed the Institute, but then what? Are they going to establish a local base? Head back to the Capital Wasteland? Go somewhere else?
There's too many open-ended questions for me. And I feel like settlements would actually try to re-establish the CPG once the Institute is gone - it was a synth that literally killed the first CPG. If you've built up the Minutemen, naturally, they'd prefer they be the enforcement/military/protection arm of the CPG, but would the BoS tolerate that if they were still around? After all, they want to get crops/tribute from settlements in exchange for "protection" (not that they actually respond when settlements that give them tribute are in trouble). Would they want to turn that into a permanent protection racket? They'd have to undermine the Minutemen if they do. Or would they want direct control and prevent the CPG from even forming?
It was more than that. Lyons was the one who was helping to make the Brotherhood strong. The ideals of the western chapters made the Brotherhood weak. I fully believe the western chapters were simply unable to send any more aid. And I believe now that the western chapters are simply clinging to the DC chapter in the hopes that they can benefit.
I love how Doctor Li left the Capital Wasteland and bc the brotherhood was using her creations for weapons/war... only to join the Institute who is pretty much doing the same thing...
I love how characters from previous games continue on,and they still remember us to this day
There is supposedly an enclave outpost in Chicago. So maybe their story isn’t over just yet.
In Fallout 2 it was said that there were Enclave outposts all over the world, at least originally.
I'd lay money on the chance that there's a robust Enclave presence in Alaska.
Supposedly there’s also Brotherhood in Chicago, so R.I.P
(They’re pretty much everywhere)
The enclave brotherhood fight is as old as cats and dogs it will never end
@@KK-qm1mr Well in our World. America has base all over the World. So it's likely, that the Enclave made contact with those bases, and convened those bases descendants, to help the Enclave.
Non-canon obviously, but the Tale of Two Wastelands mod makes the Lone Wanderer the Protag of New Vegas as well. I never was interested in the Courier's backstory so I like the idea of using a character that not only has a backstory, but one I fashioned myself (I.e events of F3 and the choices I made).
If you follow that headcanon and if the Lone Wanderer becomes the ruler of New Vegas along with the experiences of all dlcs then they defeated many factions.
There’s really no reason lore-wise why the LW can’t be the Courier. But personally I like the idea of him being a different guy. I’m pretty sure the LW knows what Chicago is. Lol
@@sirmount2636 The cool headcanon is your choice what you think the courier backstory as that Chicago dialogue was one of the options you could have said.
If I were to connect fallout 3 to fallout 4 and maybe have a 5 come out, I think our lone wanderer from vault 101 should have become a ghoul caused from his exposure to radiation at project purity. Then yet that would be me
@@sirmount2636 yes there are plenty of reasons lore wise as to why they aren’t the same person🤦♂️ there’s one line of dialogue that implies he slept with a woman in Montana 18 years before FNV takes place, back when the lore wanderer was a toddler living in a vault. And then there’s all the stuff we learn in Lonesome Road about the couriers backstory that makes it impossible.
The Brotherhood In 4: Elder Maxson is the best Elder!
Ox: This is outrageous! This isn’t fair!
I wish Desmond Lockhart’s story had continued in Fallout 4
Desmond was the best
Jaden Pearce he was central to the main plot of Point Lookout
I really liked Desmond. I think it would be cool if maybe there was a random encounter with him where he has a fight with manta man or something
Battlefield 4😎PRO vs fallout 4😩noob
Same, hope to see "my favorite old limey baaastard" in Fallout 5 man.
I like to think that it was an internal struggle that kills Sarah Lyons. Some of more bitter members thinking they can be better elder assassinated or didn't dispute reinforcement for Sarah, others elder death described vary detailed and Sarah only had one sentence, especially knowing how Arthur was fascinated by her. Which could be for another reason to get rid of her, as a descendant of the legendary Roger Maxson he could not fall under the Lyon new ideology.
P.S. I like to think Lone Wanderer saved Sara at the death's door and flee Capital Wasteland until she can recover.
i like this idea. i hope is true.
Until I see the body or at least the grave [that I can desecrate to loot her unique armor] its true to me.
Like how she saved the lone wanderer during fallout 3. Poetic.
Again, is better than what Bethesda did.
Lw and sara living togetter in some new settlement
I always found the fate of the Lyons to be a little bit suspect. Something happened to both Lyons in a short time and it just so happens that this outrageously fabled and overzealous Maxon just takes over.
BulletKingIsHere he killed a death law single handed, he could take on Lyons and Lyons
We're talkin' about a chubby-cheeked homicidal maniac here.
The Purple Shade Except you continently ignore that the terminal says other members tried to lead the brotherhood before Maxson and failed. Maxson loved Sarah Lyons and was a boy when she died.
Sarah prolly faked her death and ran away with TLW
I never realized how much 3 andb4 were conected. Interesting.
Wtf they kept hinting at fallout 4?! It wasnt just the Android quest? My mind is blown
No they turned that quest into the game because they ran out of original ideas
Benjamin Dillon 😂
GamingDude2000 next game your an enclave soldier set just before fallout 2 and you die on the oil rig at the end
23:30 the enclave developed the x02 after the war, it's the x01 that was pre-war and served as a prototype for later models such as the Advanced MK2 Power Armor in fallout 2 and new Vegas, as well as the X-02 Advanced power Armor used by the enclave. the hell-fire armor was based on a prototype recovered in vault 51 in Appalachia.
Personally, I would have liked to have seen the events of the Pitt draw the Brotherhood's attention in Fallout 4. Why wouldn't a massive, conspicuous industrial revival be of interest to them? I think Three Dog could have done with a bit more of a presence in the later story. Three Dog was more than a radio jockey, he was emblematic of the emotional heart of Fallout 3's story, and it would have been nice to give him more of an epilogue. Lastly, I really think the Lone Wanderer deserved more of a reputation than he/she had. That was half the fun of Fallout 3--do something cool, become a local hero whose exploits are told over the radio. Honestly, settlers should be telling stories about the player character's role in the conflict.
Still, it seems like Fallout 4 continued, ended, or hinted at a lot of stories that Fallout 3 started. The Brotherhood, Madison Li, Sierra Petrovita, Three-Dog (kinda), MacCreedy, Liberty Prime, the Mechanist, the Children of Atom, the super mutant infestation, and, of course, the institute. Really, Fallout 4 felt almost like a direct sequel rather than its own game. It tied up almost every loose end in sight, and that bothers me a little.
I think Fallout 76 is where Bethesda is taking the franchise. The saga of the Capital Wasteland feels complete, the way the West Coast storyline felt complete with the ending of New Vegas. They're going to do something new next, and that means that they're likely going to focus future Fallout titles in the era immediately following the events in West Virginia. I think it will make for good games, but I still wanted to see a climactic third entry to East Coast Fallout saga.
I cant side with the new brotherhood after playing through fallout 3 and seeing how the brotherhood changed. They have become the Enclave.
They always were like the enclave fo3 were the changed ones
No they are not? they sure are not the good guys and they are more Nazi-like but at the least they havn't try to kill every single human (not only ghoul and synth) that for them is a mutant.
the brotherhood is nazi-like but the enclave is pure nazism.
I only sided with the brotherhood once, and I killed them all right after the main quest was over because I really can't stand them.
@@utentedistaceppa7222 dude i dont think you know what nazi is.
I think you mean either xenofobic autoritarian (there soldiers so yes), or isolationist
@@timvanrijn8239 i think that if you kill evrything you think is not human (non feral ghouls, synth, non ostile spermutant) you are act as a nazi, the brotherhood does this things every time they can, even in fallout 3, where they are the good guys. if you don't belive me go to Underworld, they say that the brotherhood shoot at them when they go outside.
that transition from fallout 3 to 4 with the Dr. was amazing. Your editing and storytelling is so great!
We need Fallout 5 to be in Kansas and there should be an encounter with the wild wasteland perk where a house falls from the sky and crushes a lady and inside the house you find a Robobrain named ‘tin man’ I think it would be a funny reference
Epic dlc
I live in Kansas, and 100% agree.
How about a supermutant named scarecrow? The supermutant and scarecrow both lacked intelligence and would cause problems either way
Also a scene in the game where it makes the player hallucinate into a different world.
As amazing as that sounds, I'd like Fallout 5 to be in Ohio. Imagine Serpent Mound as a base for a faction. Maybe even a faction similar to Joshua Graham's Dead Horses or other tribals. We could see the Enclave again since Whitley's logs in New Vegas state that there are Midwestern chapters. I think it would be cool!
I finally finished thus game a couple days ago, I went to every location, every subway, found raven rock before I needed to, I did everything by walking straight after i left the vault, I went to each sat array and it took me a week to decode all the morse code, I killed so many raiders and super mutants and don't get me started on the talon company, I know every inch of fallout 3 and their spawns, got dogmeat and give him about 15 stimpaxs throughout the whole game, had to send him home sometimes because he was too loud, overall it was a great game and a fun learning experience, and this was the 2nd time playing a bestheda game since play oblivion.
@Daniel Williams
Every inch? Here is a test, for you or anyone else:
1) Did you find every skillbook, even the one(s) you cannot pick up?
2) Where is the black-faced gnome? (I collected ~25 garden gnomes for my house)
3) Outside what settlement is the toy ball you can kick or throw, but not put in inventory?
4) How are live captives brought inside Vault 87?
5) Can you disprove MATN's assertion that "every subway tunnel looks the same"?
I spent 3 000 hours in that world.
"Is there another story you wished had been concluded in Fallout 4?"
Me: Uh.... WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO THE LONE WANDERER?! Also, did he ever meet the Courier? And as for the Courier, does anyone think that Kellogg may have met the Courier?
Maybe. But it probably, wasn't a long meeting. Maybe, Kellogg bumbed into the Courier once, or twice.
Maybe the lone wanderer met both, then that means, FO3, FNV, and FO4 are linked!
Kellogg was in the Commonwealth long before the events of fallout new Vegas
No way Kellogg met the courier. By the time Fallout 4 takes place, Kellogg had been operating in the Commonwealth for well over 60 years, and Fallout 4 only takes place 6 years after Fallout new Vegas. Kellogg would have been on the other side of the US years before the Courier was even born.
he might have met the chosen one.
I think it would be nice to know what happend to The Republic of Dave.
That's easy! I killed them all.
The brokenbat27 Obviously, the were reclaimed by the wasteland.
Dictatorship of his son
It's Obvious, Dave annexed the Capital Wasteland.
They live like just east of 2 heavily deathclaw infested locations....
When he said "they're out their" about the Gary clones it sent a chill down my spine. Just the way he said it
What I wanna know is why bring back the wet wipe that is wally mack and not Reilly's rangers, 10/10 my favourite side quest and there was so much more that could have been done
My biggest question is how many Bos are left in D.C? (Haven’t finished video yet)
And you'll have to keep wondering...
Most the Brotherhood is probably still in D.C, As Paladin Danse Says the Prydwen has 1 *Garrison*, He also informs us that the reason they have so many T-60 power Armor & Vertibirds is because they have intire Factories for there production, there even a Terminal in the upper area of the Prydwen that shows they were having conversations and Even playing Chest with people back in the Capital Wasteland.
They can mass produce T-60s after they took over the Enclave's bases. We only see the crawler but the Enclave was the US government after all. There are likely many more bunkers and underground facilities
i would imagine that as the Capital Wasteland is exporting water and depending on what happened with Harold, it is now a much more civilized place - i doubt the BoS would put that in jeopardy by committing everything.
I'm sure they still govern it and by the time of F4 I'm assuming that all of the super mutants are dead and the raider threat is minimal so they only have to leave behind a few hundred people to govern it
I hope the next story-driven Fallout game sees the return of the Enclave, or at least an Enclave-derived faction. It would be a great experience to lead the rebirth of the Enclave under the player character, and either stick to its core values (evil karma) or reform it (good karma), or even mix old and new (neutral karma).
That, and the Enclave Officer uniform is perhaps the best looking outfit I’ve seen thus far, having played F: 3 and F: 4.
I hope not that would be terrible
Honestly I hope you’ve seen the NCR Ranger armor
i see, so the creation club quests are canon?
anyway, I feel like The Lone Wanderer became a Wanderer, with his crew mates from Zeta and just traveled to outer space, and sometimes stops by on Earth, and if the Wanderer ever travels West,
he probably took down some of the Legion along the way
6:07 Hmm, a gun. Maybe, if I shoot myself in the head, I'll gain superpowers! Existing knowledge be damned, I'm going for it!
*PERSONA!*
ariesforce1988
Huzzah, a man of culture!
@@ariesforce1988
This is the true underrated comment
Now we just need a New Vegas epilogue video.
and a Fallout 1 Epilogue
Nothing about the ending of Fallout NV has been made Canon yet as it ends 4 ways.
@@RumRayven A man can dream, can't he?
Honestly I would rather get a new fallout in a location not close to vegas or Boston. I would love to see what is going on with Miami or Atlanta
he go home after the ending after that and that started Lonesome road he want To find other Couriers and brought them home safe but Ulysses or 'courier 7'became corrupt and want to launch a nuke
The lone wanderer , sally, that ancient samurai, somah, and the ancorage medic, took that spaceship to travel the cosmos
post a video to tell us what happened to the courier from fallout new vegas
This
Would be pretty interesting
I feel as though there isn't enough confirmed cannon to do this.
@Hamsters Plural there really isnt any video on it would be pure speculation.
Megas12 he got shot in the head, went with the Yes man, fought the legion and Ncr, And was never mentioned in another fallout game again
My theory is that the lone wanderer became the captain of the alien ship and went to explore space.
And met up with the lovely ghouls from repcon.
your avarage FACKING BREXITER My favorite faction
My theory is that. The Lone Wanderer, was named Philip Swift. And he invited 'Flex Tape'.
Seems pretty sound could give way to the hubologists in nukaworld and their obsession with going into space
Seems pretty sound could give way to the hubologists in nukaworld and their obsession with going into space
Dr. Li made it from the Capital Wasteland to the Commonwealth alone, and on high heels. What a chad.
Remember that the Wasteland Survival Guide also made its way to the Mojave somehow.
Trader networks, maybe?
@@KK-qm1mr or a train connecting both wastelands, that would be quite the tale.
@@luxar9416 A tale of two wastelands perhaps???
Real-world breakaway civilization conspiracy theories have the US crisscrossed by underground maglev train tunnels. Given that the Enclave is inspired by those same theories, it's not out of the question for the series.
Well it would have been years since FO3. So it's possible, that a few would make it to the Mojave Desert.
Elder maxsons Brotherhood of Steel became strong between Fallout 3 and 4 but in my opinion all of that power went to maxsons head and that soon came to bite him in the ass when a certain Soul Survivor emerged from Vault 111 to reunite the Commonwealth under a blue banner.
Well in my opinion they only became stronger because of what Lyons did, Enclave were destroyed, all tech and scraps from their facilities went into repairing Prime and building the Prydwen. That probably helped a lot in order to get the Outcasts back.
@@hamstersplural4334 I suppose you're right but technically if the minutemen ending is Canon wouldn't that mean Liberty Prime was never rebuilt.
@@butterking211-viewingaccou4 Yeah you are correct but you have to remember that in FO4 very few things actually needed to be done to him, the player fetches a few things for his ammunition and his power but it seems as though Rothchild had already restored his optics and repaired most of his parts, he just needed reassembled.
@@hamstersplural4334 but when you go to destroy the Institute father has a chance of saying "well, we got the reactor working without you" meaning that they got the beryllium agitator before the Brotherhood, therefore prime could not have been repaired fully although I have a feeling that we will see him again but under the Minutemen banner in future Fallout games. My reasoning for this is that if you return to the Boston Airport after the pridwin has crashed the room were primes parts are stored is still intact and undamaged therefore they can be saved.
Ahhh, you're a 60 minute man as well!
I like to think the lone wanderer disappeared because of the death of sarah simply put the two of them had a relationship going but when she died and the lone wanderer saw the quagmire the brotherhood turned into ontop of three dog disappearing (if creation club can be believed) he finally had enough and decided to head west to get as far from the brotherhood and his admirers as possible maybe he headed toward Chicago to help the brotherhood there maybe he headed toward Texas down through mexico who knows
Oh my god, Kells was Tuvok. THAT's where I knew his voice from.
MoonshineSazerac so that who he is. I knew I recognized the voice, and with Data (TNG) in halucigen’s emergency warning system
Worf and Odo were in New Vegas, and Dax was Desdemona in 4.
@@KK-qm1mr who was worf I know Odo was House
@@Couldnt_let_J.Marston_die Marcus (who was also in Fallout 2)
@@KK-qm1mr Dax was not Desdemonia, that was the woman from Babalon 5, Claudia Christian
Ha Ha Ha.............Garrry!
No one can stop the Gary's. A Gary is for life, not just for Christmas.
GARY!
Gary? Gary. Gary? GAAAARRRYYY!
What Moira Brown said almost brought a tear in my eye. I worked so HARD trying to help the wasteland, I dealt with Fallout 3 being a buggy mess at times because I loved the stories coming from the fellow wastelanders. I wanted to help, even if I got lost and frustrated and shot at. Thank you Moira for acknowledging us, I hope you can join my Fallout Shelter vault some day.
i killed everyone in fallout 3
@@beuph But why?
@@KingDanny9 the voices told me to
@@beuph Moira never hurt anyone!
Remember that wasteland survival guides can be found in the Mojave during New Vegas too.
there is another toy block row spelling Gary within Vault 75 ;)
Its still interesting to me that bethesda never acknowledges that canonically, there are cars are still driveable in the fallout universe (fallout 2 tells us this).
i just thought about it because i had a weird thought of Madison Li driving around in a rusty old highwayman
I thought the xo2 wasnt pre war i mean in every fallout game it says it was made by the post war enclave
Yep, it's definitely post-War.
But you know Bethesda and how little they care about lore consistency
X01 is a post-war Power Armor as it first appears in Fallout 2, however, Bethesda retconned the lore when Nuka World came out. They also did the same thing with Jet. It was originally created by Myron, but it’s a pre-war chem in Fallout 4.
@@Mikeh2077 New Vegas also has Pre War references to jet lol
@@rpgswithwe pretty sure it was stimpacks not jets
I’m ready for Fallout 5
Austin Lowder gonna have to be patient
Im sorry but Bethesda is not :(
Cloudy Bird I know :’(
I'm ready for New Vegas 2.
@@TheLastBabyMan me too :)
9:10 She never caught on to Ronald's advances, cause (for me) the lone wanderer offered to give him a threesome if he helped me get the 30 nuka cola quantums, but he was torn apart by a deathclaw along the way. I love the black widow perk!
I feel like the T60 Power Armor would work way better as a Post War Power Armor made by the BOS after the Destruction of the Enclave.
I get the sense that a lot of the conflict between power armor versions and canonical info boils down to an interpretation of what it means for something to be cutting edge before the war vs. something to be cutting edge /during/ the war.
Well t-45 was the base version, t-60 was a upgraded version of the t-45 and had more armor. t-51 has less armor but more R&D spent on t-51 and was the leading suit to go to front line troops so it was probably the more high tech suit compared too pre war suits such as t-45, t-51 and t-60. T-60 was used by the National defense because they were cheaper and easily manufactured.
the raider and xo-1 and xo-2 are post war so you could say the xo suits are crafted for the waste land where the t series were made for war.
@@TheDmantheman100 X-01 is pre bomb. It's a prototype. The enclave probably found the data or a complete set and based their Advanced Power Armor on it.
Freeloader462 T-60 takes more advanced materials to go upgrade and repair though.
I agree with the sentiment it should have been a Bos invention
Honestly though, I wish there was a mod or even a game where a previous player character was made into a companion.
Because how damn cool would it be to have the leader of a faction turn out to be the sole survivor, and you could choose what ending you had.
@@almorium6216 you forgot n v
@@almorium6216 there we go
I mean there mccready
“brotherhood is the most powerful faction in the wasteland”
laughs in ncr
Fjj you had it right first with the Enclave man.
I think they are equal they both have nukes from lonesome Road and Fort Constantine they can both manufacture power armour 51b from the shi and t60 from addams airforce base the ncr has mechanised vehicles thanks to shi bio fuel and the brotherhood has vertibirds and the prdydwing. The ncr has van graff plasma weapons the brotherhood has laser gatlings the ncr does lead in agriculture, medicine and energy thanks to the followers and if the ncr won or house survived they will have access to his robots either by schematics or from factories he said he was going to build. But the brotherhood has liberty prime.
Laughs in stormcloacks... wait... wrong game.
orion k Oh no neither the NCR or Eastern BOS technically have a hold on the Divide or Fort Constantine. The Hopeville silo was connected to Navarro meaning that it belonged to the Enclave and the only nukes we see the BOS use are the small nukes that Liberty Prime uses
The brotherhood is the most powerful faction in terms of technology,armor,weapons,the air ship,vertibirds and liberty prime
The NCR has numbers and experienced snipers I'm saying logical sense and you don't see it that's all.
It's weird how Maxson's Brotherhood looks down on the Lyons Era. As stated in the video, they...did a lot. (Re)Discovered the Pentagon, Liberty Prime...cleaned out Pittsburgh, defeated the Enclave, continued Project Purity..."complacent stragglers" isn't what I would call the Brotherhood in the Capital Wasteland. They were pretty damn successful.
Maybe Maxson is just trying to make a name for himself after so many Elders after Lyons failed.
Or it could be Bethesda's writing.
The situation surrounding Dr. Zimmer is odd. As stated in the video, Father states that "he's *still* offline". He refers to Kellogg in the same manner, but doesn't use the word "still"...implying that he's still alive? I don't know. I feel that Zimmer is actually getting those 'high profile' synths.
Great video. Always look forward to anything Fallout from Oxhorn.
Put him in the Relevant Characters Who Have Simply Gone Missing right next to Autumn.
10 years is a long time. Those successes made them complacent, and after the Lyonses died there were a lot of bad elders.
Plus consider who you talk to, a lot were likely outcasts 10 years ago
Until this video, when the blocks spelled out Gary, that is when it dawned on me. I have seen it before just never put it together.
Well if you believe the theory that Deacon is the Lone Wanderer and that Father is secretly James, the Madison Li doesn’t really lose her love, yet.
The gist of it is that Deacon came from Capital Wasteland which was confirmed. We know he has undergone sex and facial reconstructions, and as such no one know what his original sex or appearance was. He had a history with MacCready as referenced in their chatter and even he knew Maxson when he was a squire. He also oddly knows the original recall code that Dr. Zimmer told the Lone Wanderer. He mentions coming to the commonwealth to find someone dear to him. After the institute is destroyed he will mentioned having finally found them and not being sure what to think. During my railroad playthrough I found Deacon beside father’s bed after he went missing during the fight.
So when can we expect the story of fallout 4? Done similar to the new vegas story and it DLC.
Doubt it'll happen to be honest because he would just be remaking a significant portion of his videos, which I would imagine would provoke a lot of people who'd consider it being lazy