Hello my darlings. I’m here to say I’m incredibly sorry for using a word and phrase in this video that is a slur towards Inuit people. I wasn’t aware at all and I appreciate everyone who has let me know and truly thank you for holding me accountable and informing me. It is of course never my intention to offend or harm anyone and i always try to be super mindful of the language I use and to be inclusive. I feel terribly that I have caused harm in this video but completely understand the upset that people are feeling towards me. Of course moving forward I’ll make sure to never say that word or phrase again. 🩷
@@louisdead6761YAS! Omg its not even funny. Thousands of dollars gone and she would have walked out with an amazing $300 tattoo with any other competent artist. Its the price of an elaborate back piece!! 😮😮😮
100%. As an artist, if I have messed up when quoting & it's actually going to take longer than I originally anticipated or whatever - THAT IS ON ME!! I don't care if your tattoo takes me an extra freaking WEEK, if I have quoted you a set price, then, provided nothing drastically changes with the design or placement - THAT IS THE PRICE! It's MY fault as the artist that I didn't ask for enough money, NOT their fault as the customer for expecting me to stick to my word! If I've told you "two sessions at x rate", that is all I'm charging.
I actually didn't realize this since I've only had two tattoo experiences. My artist told me at my last tattoo appointment that he should have asked for more because it was more work than he expected. I told him it was ok to charge me more since it was just an estimate, but he said no, and that it was his mistake. He has a few issues with as an artist, but at least I know he has honor.
this happened to me, he charged me 1200 through dm and after 1st session asked for 1600, but honestly i blame myself cause the original wasnt supposed to be a full colored sleeve and then i switched it to color 😭😭
$500 per hour (first session $1500 for 3 hours) for the slowest tattoo 'artist' I have ever seen. 3 hours is a full day? Damn, this woman has issued herself a license to print money.
People willing to pay her are also willing to get screwed. She's far from the only artist in the area or the genre; going to her for work is just being willing to throw your money at her.
Counting 3 hours as a full day session is so wild to me. I’ve been tattooed for 6 hours without the artist calling it a « full day » and charging me more. Also I’ve gone to some absolutely top tier artists who don’t charge that much hourly 😅
@@gwynpeters6029 Yeah it's crazy. I've never been quoted more than $120AU an hour. One session started at 4pm and finished after midnight to get the outline completed. He discounted it to 100/hr because of the size, it ended up around 30 hours. So, a 3 hour 'all day' is just laughable.
The fact she was on the phone for an entire session makes me think she faffs around and wastes time majorly and then passes the cost of her god awful time management onto the client. Gross.
For some context, i live very close to the tattoogate "artist", and the tattoos i get from shops in the same area, with MUCH better artists, charge a fraction of what this woman is asking. Typically $100 deposit. Which goes toward the final price, and the best artists in my area charge about $180-200/hr.
That seems completely reasonable. Something I've learned is that if something costs significantly less or MORE than the going rate, it's a scam. The only exception is actual celebrities and honestly, you probably won't be much happier with their stuff than a slightly high end version of the same thing. There's a celebrity personal trainer who charges 15 grand for his plans. He himself said that it is a lot and you won't get better results with him, than you would with any other good trainer. That applies to art too.
Ladies I am begging you, if you cannot stand up for yourself and tell the person providing you a service that you aren’t satisfied then please bring someone who will. You cannot go into a tattoo studio if you can’t be decisive because you will most likely leave feeling like shit
This is so true. My second tattoo I approved the outline and said ‘no pink’ but open to other colors. Artist prepped 8 colors and more than half of them were red, pink, and purples. I felt so bad, but I had to speak up. I told them ‘I said no pink’. Artist was upset and kinda huffy asking me what colors I wanted instead. As awkward as it was, I’m so glad I spoke up. I love my tattoo and even went back for another from this artist.
This is such a good idea I have this issue yeah smaller scale but with getting my hair done last time I got it done I wasn’t even happy with it and it cost $500 and I went 3 times first for consultation second for cut then back for color and it’s a 45 min drive 😅😅 if I were to get a tattoo I’d deff have to bring someone
She's obviously spreading these tattoos over many sessions to fleece her customers. None of the tattoos that have been publicized should have been more than one session. The whole thing is crazy and that she's still doing it is bananas
That she's known for it and people are still booking with her speaks more to the headspace of her clients than her being a scammer. Thinking you're going to get the special treatment or be the easy client to someone who drags out sessions like this... what makes them more special than the people she's admitted to screwing over? In what universe are we pretending she's not known for that behavior on the internet?
@@thatvalensteingirl you do realize that just because she's known to people who know about her business practices, that doesn't mean that everybody knows about what she does. not everybody has access to or knowledge of the same things you do. humans are not a hivemind.
@@whatteamwildcats4033People forget most people in the real world aren't on Instagram or TikTok 24/ 7 and just go to their local tattoo artists. A fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of the people in this world has even seen this woman's art, let alone know her name, or what she's known for. The drama is spread across platforms with log-in locks that keep visitors from seeing any posts. How the hell is the average person going to know?
I don’t know how she manages to look people in the face after tattooing someone for a whole day and only doing 6 measly lines, and then go “ok pay me now”. Mind boggling 🤡
I agree. I actually said that to her through our email exchange. I asked her how she could be ok with doing this to me and leaving me with basically nothing for what she charged me.
Heavily tattooed Canadian over here… paid $3,500 for my entire sleeve!! Those tattoos are the size of flash tattoos… should have taken 30 mins and cost shop minimum. My brain hurts even thinking about this
Also Canadian, I have 2 medium-large flash pieces on my arm, more coverage than Lindsay did for sure, and they were ~$800 CAD total. Probably 6-7 hours of tattooing combined. Nothing about her time or cost makes any sense.
My tattoo was supposed to be a sleeve. And I was fine with paying what she charged. From the work that I saw, she did the style I wanted. I thought she could deliver on what she said she would. Clearly, that was not the case. She was supposed to add watercolour to the flowers, and the sunset was a secondary element.
I paid around $720 USD (not including tip) for my entire spine to be tattooed which was two sessions/4ish hours total. I got a semi realistic looking spine with broken off ribs in black and gray. This was from an artist with like 30 plus years of experience tattooing and my shit looks dope. I would have paid more for it because of how well it was executed. The amount of money they spent on THAT tattoo is absolutely ridiculous!
@missfeisty all good if you're not comfortable with it, but your spine tattoo sounds amazing!! Do you have a photo you're comfortable to share on a instagram account or anything? :)
I'm convinced some of these victims just never took time to see what fair pricing for tattoos are before throwing their money at an artist. It's not their fault they're being scammed at all but at some point something should start adding up.
Yeah the person Ultimately still is the victim and was scammed, but honestly, everyone needs to be more okay with cutting losses and with having a spine. Develop a good bullsshit detector and you'll still probably get scammed but it will be less damaging.
@@dismurrart6648 I thought I was the unicorn. Given what had happened. I really thought she would do a great job on my sleeve. She and I had extensive conversations. I even offered her help about how to get her business back. I had given her suggestions about how to work changing the perception of her. Lol... I am the asshole. :)
thats what i'm saying... how does she even book ppl when there has to be more reasonably priced artists in the area?? just a bit of research and they'd know her pricing system is not the norm and over the top esp for the work she produces. kinda blows my mind lol
@@lex_ak a lot of small business owners (eg. tattoo artists, mechanics etc) are great at their craft, but not necessarily the 'business/customer service' side of things. THAT Lyndsay woman is able to do all that scamming due to being a woman, approachable and having good customer service skills (before scamming people) IMHO.
I think it is part of the human psyche to think we have invested so much on something that we need to keep going with it. sunk-cost fallacy noun the phenomenon whereby a person is reluctant to abandon a strategy or course of action because they have invested heavily in it, even when it is clear that abandonment would be more beneficial. "the sunk-cost fallacy creeps into a lot of major financial decisions"
@@rachelw345 for sure, after all the time and energy and money already invested. I trusted she was going to do what she agreed to. Appt 1 seemed to be the outline and get the sunset started. For appt 2, I thought she would get through more than adding 6 lines. She did not communicate that by adding these lines, she would not finish the rest of the tattoo. As the time went on, I said to her "given the time, we aren't getting the rest of the sunset or the flowers done are we?" She didn't answer and my heart sank. I knew then that I was getting screwed. I knew from the experience of Ri, that if I didn't pay her, she would call the police. So I paid.
At this point I feel like this could be escalated into small claims court (or whatever the canadian equivalent is). I'm gonna be researching artists for months after this just to make sure I don't get scammed 😭
It would be small claims court here yes, as long as the amount in dispute is less than $35,000 per side :) I'm so curious to see if this comes up on canlii but nothing yet (at least for the original tattoogate lady)... Would be in Ontario, but small claims *can* take a while... I'm pretty sure she has about 2 years from the date of the "incident" to start the process though so who knows...
Like what was said in the comment above mine it just has to be under that amount but it has to be over $5000 as well. There’s other options though for civil matters.
4,450 Canadian dollars equal to 3,040 euros 3,273 dollars 2,608 pounds That is some serious cash for a tattoo that isn't even what the customer wanted.
I paid £800 for a realistic portrait on my forearm from an extremely talented artist. 800!!!! That looks like it would be 200 max ! I feel so bad for her that is a lot of money.
How the hell is this tattooer getting bookings from "word of mouth". How did the victims friend have a good session with this scammer who sits down for 3 hours, does 5% of what a regular artist would do in that time and charge 3x the price. Does she only scam some of her clients or are there people who really dont know how much they should be paying for tattoos/time.
I’ve wondered that myself… I’ve seen here Instagram, and she is posting current work… completed. Did she randomly decide to screw me over and do a great job for the next person???
I understand that a lot if ppl are anti social media and have no desire to be associated with any of it....but these are the ways that keeping an ear to social media every so often can be informative & educational smh
One of my local tattoo shop charges 1 hour of the hourly rate for deposit. When I went in, what I wanted took right around an hour. That artist probably could have slowed down a little and charged me more. But she didn't, and that's one of the reasons I'll go back when I have something that fits her style.
This was such a good video! One thing though, the term esk*mo is actually a slur for Inuit people, so please avoid using it in future! I know that a lot of us were taught that this is the correct term at school but Inuit people have spoken out on the history of the word, and asked us to avoid using it!
I’ve actually had conversations about this to literal eskimos and they don’t mind it because it’s not what it actually means to them. It wasn’t until white people made the word derogatory by going by the definition of raw meat eater….but that’s not its origin. So it’s perfectly fine to still use it. Don’t believe everyone on the internet.
@@Mars_doll As a native person I think you should just be respectful instead of worrying about the grey areas. If you wanna be more respectful you don’t refer to inuit natives as eskimos because if you’re a white person the meaning and understanding is a bit of a different thing. Just because you know why and how it became a slur, other people may not. The swastika wasn’t originally a nazi symbol but if you see people wearing the swastika the nazis used it’s safe to assume they’re an actual neo nazi.
@@Mars_dollI don't think it's "perfectly" fine to use. I know in Canada Inuit definitely don't like this term being used. Thats not to say every Inuk on the planet take offense, it's still a term used pejoratively historically. So coming from a non inuk you should refrain to use this term liberally. Of course if you know Inuit referring to themselves as esk*mo and invite you to do the same than that's fine but it's definitely not universal.
To the Inuit it's like the n-word. It translates literally as "person who eats raw fish" and they find it deeply insulting. Inuit means "people" and the singular form is Inuk.
The amount of money this woman charges is absolutely crazy! I've researched into getting a traditional tribal tattoo done in the traditional hand tap style of my ancestors but by modern artists who've studied the meanings, can design something specific to me and my family history, and they don't charge that much for a design and tattoo!
When you gave the prices per session my heart stopped even my largest tattoo was a fraction of those extortionate prices and it's on my chest/collar bone area. When I've made appointments and paid for a deposit it was for the artist to hold that time slot for me and then used towards the final tattoo payment and if we didn't use as much time as we scheduled I've been refunded. Also my artists have never taken my inspiration photos and completely ignored them. That's awful and I'm sorry that these people were roped into this dumpster fire.
I wonder if she gave Theresa her deposit back BECAUSE of the legal mess she created w/ the other two tictokers.. like she could say in court “I’m reasonable, look at this lady who asked for her deposit and I gave it to her” sort of deal
can i just say kudos to you for asking permission to cover a story! not only is it respectful, but i think too many commentary channels will discuss topics in a rude way and not even recognize the people involved are real people
Absolutely. I mean, she did get $3800 from me. But she was trying to double that. She quoted me 2 to 2 1/2 sessions. Then tried to tell me it would take at least that to finish the tattoo. I noped out.
You know, your videos are a sort of consultation for us. I feel like you can charge us around $200 per consultation. You'll be in a mansion with a herd of Corgis by Valentine's Day! 😂 Thanks for keeping us in the loop about this shady lady; I hope her career shudders to a halt sometime soon.
not done video yet, at the pricing part. And- I have one tattoo (on my ribs) and one of my appointments I went in and I literally COULDNT sit through it my body just tapped out immediately. My artist was super understanding, sat and chatted with me until my ride got there. She only charged me for supplies (cause she opened them) and she DIDNT take my deposit. I actually asked if she was because I was totally down and understanding if she did and to resupply a deposit for future apps but she outtright refused. Bcuz I showed up and tried and my body said no, but I tried so she said no. I am pretty sure I tipped this woman as much as my tattoo cost, lol.
Hi! Just wanted to say that I got my first tattoo a few days ago thanks in part to the information and encouragement from this channel, and I can safely say I did NOT pay over $1,000 for something that only takes up my inner forearm (it was $450 Australian, which is around $296 American according to online converters). Thank you for being such an open fountain of positivity and covering these scam artists!
Why do people _agree_ to these prices? Does the artist never discuss pricing beforehand? Do people think that if they overspend they'll get a better tattoo? Is it the location, like a high cost-of-living area? I'm not trying to be rude, I just don't get it
Well..., I don't know sh*t about tattoo artist fees as someone with zero tattoo. And rare are the artists who openly share their prices. (Which is understandable since every piece is different and some people will be entitled if you show a price) but the result is I genuinely can't even tell what is a correct price range for a certain size tattoo. I know plastic surgery is a few k$ so my guess is people think something as permanent can also be a few k$
I think it's a few things: I don't think it's a coincidence that every victim of Tattogate that we've seen has been a woman. Women are generally socialized to smooth over conflict, refrain from being confrontational, and are discouraged from being clear and authoritative about decisions involving their own bodies. You see the effects of all this in everything from fashion to medicine, but it's a particularly toxic combo when you're talking about a scam artist who is deliberately leveraging these things to manipulate her female customers (and I suspect is also using the fact that she herself is a woman to build trust with these victims before fleecing them). Throw in someone who's less experienced with tattoos and maybe doesn't know what the going rates are in their area/doesn't know where to find that information, and here we are. It's a really cold, calculating pattern of behavior from the artist that's very disturbing, and I'm glad that more people are speaking up.
@@teressavanvliet6650For what is should have been it would be reasonable. You were scammed, plain and simple, bait and switch is a common extortion/scammer tactic.
girl im sorry i had to tell you that top is gorgeous we can see all ur cute tattoos also that hair has to be my favourite of what you’ve done with the little white strands! also i love all your videos sm they make my day better to sit down and watch
I love your necklace! Anyone know where's it from? Also would like to add that as someone who gets tattooed in Ontario, Canada (where tattoo gate happened), I got my whole sleeve done for approx. 3k, by an incredible artist. Almost $2000 for a 2 hour session is a crime, and she should absolutely be taken to small claims court by all three women.
Hey, Lauren! I love your videos/channel and I really wanted to make a mention about a phrase you used in this video.... Using “Eskimo” today is considered pejorative or derogatory simply because “eater of raw meat” is not how Inuit choose to refer to themselves, and they never did. The word is an exonym-a name given to a group by another group-and its continued use can perpetuate harmful stereotypes.
Granted, I'm not Canadian and I've never had a tattoo done over in that part of the world, but I just can't get over the price of that tattoo.. My two biggest tattoos combined are at least 5-6 times the size of her tattoo, took roughly 10 hours to complete and I didn't even pay half the price of what she paid for that. I don't even understand what that "artist" did for all those hours to drag it out for that long. I don't think I've ever met a tattoo artist who couldn't have finished that thing in one sitting. That woman really must have the gift of the gab because I truly don't know how she manages to keep ripping people off like that..
Doubt she will go after someone with a larger following. She’s a bully and wants to go after smaller creators because she thinks she can get away with it.
I have a huge coverup on my right calf that goes from my achilles tendon to the back of my knee.. It took my artist just 7 hours and cost me $1400 NZD including deposit (just under $1200 CAD if my calculations are correct), and she drew it up right in front of my face during my *free* consultation. It wasn't an easy one to do either, the tattoo that was being covered was biiiig and still *very* dark, but you can now only see tiny parts of it if I tell you where to look. My tattooer is a wildly talented, absolute beast 🙌♥ I feel sorry for anyone who encounters scam artists like Lindsay.
Situations like this always reminds me of how grateful I am for finding my artist. & I'm sure tattoo gate will continue. I took a 9yr break from getting tattoos bc my old artist had to close his shop due to his own health problems & it took me 9ys to find a new artist I liked. I finally found my new artist about 2.5ish yrs ago & since then I've gotten 16 tattoos by him. Bc im loyal customer (always on time & never cancels) he's chosen to give me certain perks like not charging me a deposit for appointments anymore & he's even offered me to come in to fill a cancelation spot in which I attempted to decline bc my bank had already closed for the day but he insisted I go ahead & come in anyways & pay him 2days later when I had time to get to the bank. Now that's trust. Of course he got his money + generous tip for trusting me.
This is crazy prices!!!! I have a palm-sized greyscale tattoo on my inside right forearm. I paid a deposit based on the total amount the artist quoted, which was £90. The tattoo ended up coming out a little bigger and more complex than initially anticipated, but my artist *insisted on honouring the quoted price.* I ended up tipping her about £50 to ensure she was properly compensated for the extra work and time, along with tipping for her excellent work. Edit: forgot to clarify, my deposit was put towards the final total, it wasnt in addition to it.
All 4 of my tattoos are watercolor and let me tell you none of them look like that! That watercolor looks like she was spray painting and missed spots.
I've seen a few comments here, and I just want to say I greatly appreciate your accountability and responsibility being a creator. You do your best to educate yourself as fast as possible, instead of staying ignorant, and i say props to you you beautiful human for doing your best :D
I'm convinced she will keep doing it forever with no issue. No matter how much her reputation is tarnished online, it doesn't matter. She is not fishing, she is whaling. One catch every few months is enough to fill the bag.
The most I've ever paid for a single session was around $1000. 5.5hrs working on my full colour leg sleeve, the artist charged $160/hr (pretty average for my area) but I also always tip when I am financially able to and when I love how the tattoos look.
something to note: "eskimo" is a derogatory term towards Canadian indigenous groups, the correct term in Inuk to refer to a person, and Inuit to refer to a group!
When I got my 4th tattoo I had scheduled a Jack o lantern tattoo with an artist 2 months in advance, only to show up and find out that the day before my appointment he had done a halloween themed flash event where he only charged $30 for any tattoo on the flash page, gave me the same jack o lantern that he had on the page, then charged me $100. Still makes me upset to this day but seeing the stories about what this artist is doing makes me so relieved that it wasn’t worse.
Hey, just wanted to point out that the word you used in the expression "sell ice to an e*****" is widely considered to be a slur against the Inuit people.
It was supposed to be a sleeve… she ignored the 4 flowers up my arm and focussed on the minor part, which was the sunset. That’s why I cut my losses. After 2 sessions of failure, there was no way she was going to do the rest of the sleeve in the time she said it would take.
For people who are curious about pricing in Canada, I got my chest piece done by a fairly popular artist. They open their books for 24h and book out 6 months at a time. I paid a $100 deposit and $500 after the tattoo was completed (took 3.5h). I have a gorgeous 8×6 inch design. I cannot BELIEVE that anyone would charge this much
Heyo, just a friendly FYI in case you weren't aware: Eskimo is considered outdated and derogatory to native Alaskan people, I'm pretty sure. On another note: Scammers be scamming, like damn.
I love your intro where you say you hope we’re sitting comfortably and have our snacks and bevvies. I’m currently snackless but do have a cozy blanket and adorable cat on my lap and some tea, of course.
Meanwhile the person hosting an art sale in in tomorrow has had to express to us MULTIPLE times not to under sell our work bc none of us want to charge a lot for our work bc AHHHHHHHHHHH This woman is quite literally the definition of “what in the audacity “
In art sale you see the price and if you have the money and that art is worth it to you, you buy it! Some might see the price and say "woah, no way!" But thats fine, they dont understand all that goes into original art and if they dont like it enough to pay that price, they don't have to. Also a lot of people going to art markets know its gonna be a lot more expensive than buying a mug at target. I guess if this person was quoted 3 grand for the tattoo in the first place, thats one thing.... maybe it seemed worth it to not spend the effort trying to find another artist with a style they like.... but then not doing what the client wanted and agreed to pay for, and then not completing the incorrect, simpler work for anywhere close to the estimate.... 🤯 THAT is a scam
A consultation fee then a drawing fee + deposit and hourly sounds like a scam. I just got a huge addition to my sleeve from a well known artist and with tip it wasnt $1,500 thats just insane. The fact that she even bothered to go back blows my mind.
For me in my lil city of the uk, the money from the consultation fee has always gone into the final cost of the tattoo, an it was mainly because people were going in getting design ideas then never coming back.
For the ammount of work probably $700 max!! (I know tattoos are a bit more expensive in USA / Canada but I wouldn’t have been comfortable paying more than £500 for she had done)
Think there might be one of these scammers in my area too, my dad went around asking shops for quotes on a small tattoo he wanted and one person quoted him over £500 saying it would take a full day, I warned to avoid that place. He ended up going to a really nice place where it took an hour and a half and cost around £100 and it looks amazing. The tattoo he wanted was only about 2 inches big and no colour for context
I’m still really perturbed that I live so close to this artist, I literally used to work just down the street, definitely drives home that scammers are everywhere. Reading some comments I do want to say her practices and prices are not normal for our area at all but I think she takes advantage of the fact that tattoo prices and practices are still not totally transparent or easy to find for individual artists and by the time a new client feels there’s something up they’ve already been sucked into the sunken cost fallacy with her, she was not transparent at all with her pricing even once it was too late. I won’t call her a master manipulator but she’s definitely found a way to exploit people who often don’t have the experience to know any better or already felt like they’ve put too much money in to back out at that point. This channel probably draws a lot of people with an interest in tattoos and therefore knowledge but not everyone has the same exposure to “tattoo culture” and etiquette, nor is everyone totally google and social media savvy so you get a lot of generic answers or ranges of prices so people can only do so much on their end. Prior to tattoo gate she definitely was representing herself quite professionally with a bright and clean looking studio so I’m not shocked she drew some people in who might have felt uncomfortable in a more “traditional” feeling studio or who didn’t have the “tattoo literacy” people with a deeper interest in the art might have. Let’s remember who the scammer is and that clients are not omniscient and do not deserve to be scammed. It might have been big news to people interested in tattoo content but I recently had a convo with friends about it, one who lives in the same city as her studio, and none had heard of it. Scammy people are good at continuing to scam.
At 17 I went with my parents to a famous artist for a consultation. The artist had a daughter around my age. Well my dad told me the artist told him to bribe to get me to back out of the tattoo with a puppy. Well 10 years later I’m sitting here with my father and puppy
I'm from a tattoo shop in QC Canada and my mentor is very well known in the QC tattoo community. The price Teressa paid for these relatively small/medium sized tattoos is like almost the price my mentor charges for a full hyperealistic sleeve, that's an absolutely insane price for those tattoos.
The audacity!!!! I have a thigh piece quoted out that would cover a good portion of the front of my though - it’s quoted at $900CAD, and that’s with more detail and larger than that!
I feel so bad for folks who get duped into thinking they need to spend about a year's college tuition for such a piece. I had a three-hour session a couple of weeks ago (I'm also in Canada), and it cost me 420$. We need to find a way to get the word out there so that people like Lindsay can't keep ripping people off.
I don’t have tattoos (I’m more a piercings kinda gurl lol), I don’t care about tattoos usually but I just can’t get enough of your coverage of tattoo dramas, you’re soo on going gurl!! when I can’t sleep and bf is sleeping, I just put the video on big screen in the living room, sit down with a cup of tea in black oversized hoodie and enjoy the ride, de-light-ful 💅🏾
When I first saw her tattoo I was like.. it’s not bad, maybe this is what the artist told her she was going to do instead.. But then after the second session where she had clearly stated she was unhappy and wanted straight lines and she still went a different direction I was like ooohh. Also with the stencil she couldn’t have known what it would look like since the design was abstract watercolor. Also the price just is not.. ok. $200/hour is normal for decent artists. Even $600 for palm size, $1000 for full day (this is what my supernatural dream artists that is impossible to book with charges) is acceptable. But over 1000 for what 3-5 hours is crazy. The tattoo isn’t bad though.. Although I’m sure it’s sucks having something she didn’t agree to.
Also just wanted to add that doing straight lines around a body part apparently is a real pain in the ass. I’ve heard my artist talk about how it’s really hard to get right so they don’t like doing them. If that was the case she should have explained that she didn’t think she could make straight lines look good instead of just doing something else entirely.
Hello my darlings.
I’m here to say I’m incredibly sorry for using a word and phrase in this video that is a slur towards Inuit people. I wasn’t aware at all and I appreciate everyone who has let me know and truly thank you for holding me accountable and informing me. It is of course never my intention to offend or harm anyone and i always try to be super mindful of the language I use and to be inclusive. I feel terribly that I have caused harm in this video but completely understand the upset that people are feeling towards me. Of course moving forward I’ll make sure to never say that word or phrase again. 🩷
@@m.m.2310Lauren is actually pretty vocal about supporting Palestine and asking for a ceasefire, over on Instagram
@@m.m.2310youre (rightfully) asking about genocide, why arent you asking about *insert anything else*? 🤧🤧
@@m.m.2310wait what? Can you explain? Not judging just super curious and I like to unsubscribe if that’s true
@@m.m.2310did we watch the same video? There’s no sponsor of such thing on here.
@@m.m.2310 there's no sponsor on the video?? what are you talking abt?
My toxic trait is thinking that as an artist with no tattooing experience I could do better with a weeks practice on fake skin 😂
LOL!! It’s very possible though 👀
Same lmao I've never tattoed but everytime I'm like ffs I swear I could do better than this 😂
As a fellow artist same lol
Lindsey is really lacking in the artistic department
Not toxic!!! I believe you could have!!
@@louisdead6761YAS! Omg its not even funny. Thousands of dollars gone and she would have walked out with an amazing $300 tattoo with any other competent artist. Its the price of an elaborate back piece!! 😮😮😮
asking for more money once you've started the tatoo is truly vile
100%. As an artist, if I have messed up when quoting & it's actually going to take longer than I originally anticipated or whatever - THAT IS ON ME!! I don't care if your tattoo takes me an extra freaking WEEK, if I have quoted you a set price, then, provided nothing drastically changes with the design or placement - THAT IS THE PRICE! It's MY fault as the artist that I didn't ask for enough money, NOT their fault as the customer for expecting me to stick to my word! If I've told you "two sessions at x rate", that is all I'm charging.
I actually didn't realize this since I've only had two tattoo experiences. My artist told me at my last tattoo appointment that he should have asked for more because it was more work than he expected. I told him it was ok to charge me more since it was just an estimate, but he said no, and that it was his mistake. He has a few issues with as an artist, but at least I know he has honor.
this happened to me, he charged me 1200 through dm and after 1st session asked for 1600, but honestly i blame myself cause the original wasnt supposed to be a full colored sleeve and then i switched it to color 😭😭
@@just_gabriela.
Sounds like that's on both of you. He should've told you the new price before he started working on the altered design.
$500 per hour (first session $1500 for 3 hours) for the slowest tattoo 'artist' I have ever seen. 3 hours is a full day? Damn, this woman has issued herself a license to print money.
That is revolting. I’m in NZ and my Pooh Bear cost I think $350 and it’s as big as my palm (colour).
People willing to pay her are also willing to get screwed.
She's far from the only artist in the area or the genre; going to her for work is just being willing to throw your money at her.
Counting 3 hours as a full day session is so wild to me. I’ve been tattooed for 6 hours without the artist calling it a « full day » and charging me more. Also I’ve gone to some absolutely top tier artists who don’t charge that much hourly 😅
@@gwynpeters6029 Yeah it's crazy. I've never been quoted more than $120AU an hour. One session started at 4pm and finished after midnight to get the outline completed. He discounted it to 100/hr because of the size, it ended up around 30 hours. So, a 3 hour 'all day' is just laughable.
Those were my thoughts exactly! My artist can quadruple that progress in 1 5 hour session
How in the hell does she manage to stretch that size tattoo into so many sessions?! I got a color half-sleeve done in two, what is going on here?!
She must be the slowest tattoo artist of all time 😂😩
The fact she was on the phone for an entire session makes me think she faffs around and wastes time majorly and then passes the cost of her god awful time management onto the client. Gross.
@@anacrea3931 she was on the phone for about an hour and half... that's why I got the discount price of $1500
@@anacrea3931not surprising given she charged thousands for a shitty tracing of what was probably the first google images result for 'fox'
For some context, i live very close to the tattoogate "artist", and the tattoos i get from shops in the same area, with MUCH better artists, charge a fraction of what this woman is asking. Typically $100 deposit. Which goes toward the final price, and the best artists in my area charge about $180-200/hr.
That seems completely reasonable. Something I've learned is that if something costs significantly less or MORE than the going rate, it's a scam.
The only exception is actual celebrities and honestly, you probably won't be much happier with their stuff than a slightly high end version of the same thing.
There's a celebrity personal trainer who charges 15 grand for his plans. He himself said that it is a lot and you won't get better results with him, than you would with any other good trainer. That applies to art too.
Ladies I am begging you, if you cannot stand up for yourself and tell the person providing you a service that you aren’t satisfied then please bring someone who will. You cannot go into a tattoo studio if you can’t be decisive because you will most likely leave feeling like shit
This is so true. My second tattoo I approved the outline and said ‘no pink’ but open to other colors. Artist prepped 8 colors and more than half of them were red, pink, and purples. I felt so bad, but I had to speak up. I told them ‘I said no pink’. Artist was upset and kinda huffy asking me what colors I wanted instead. As awkward as it was, I’m so glad I spoke up. I love my tattoo and even went back for another from this artist.
@@rachelwhite2210 crazy how these tattoo artists pretend to be deaf to avoid doing what person who literally pays them wants on their skin forever...
This is such a good idea I have this issue yeah smaller scale but with getting my hair done last time I got it done I wasn’t even happy with it and it cost $500 and I went 3 times first for consultation second for cut then back for color and it’s a 45 min drive 😅😅 if I were to get a tattoo I’d deff have to bring someone
She doesn’t allow you to bring anyone with you… guess we know the reason why.
@@teressavanvliet6650 that’s a huge red flag! I’ve never heard of an artist not allowing you to bring anyone, that’s crazy
She's obviously spreading these tattoos over many sessions to fleece her customers. None of the tattoos that have been publicized should have been more than one session. The whole thing is crazy and that she's still doing it is bananas
That she's known for it and people are still booking with her speaks more to the headspace of her clients than her being a scammer.
Thinking you're going to get the special treatment or be the easy client to someone who drags out sessions like this... what makes them more special than the people she's admitted to screwing over? In what universe are we pretending she's not known for that behavior on the internet?
Honestly she has no shame to even do this in the first place so I don't know why people are surprised she continues to be shameless.
@@thatvalensteingirl you do realize that just because she's known to people who know about her business practices, that doesn't mean that everybody knows about what she does.
not everybody has access to or knowledge of the same things you do. humans are not a hivemind.
She just posted on instagram that she is closing
@@whatteamwildcats4033People forget most people in the real world aren't on Instagram or TikTok 24/ 7 and just go to their local tattoo artists. A fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of the people in this world has even seen this woman's art, let alone know her name, or what she's known for. The drama is spread across platforms with log-in locks that keep visitors from seeing any posts. How the hell is the average person going to know?
I don’t know how she manages to look people in the face after tattooing someone for a whole day and only doing 6 measly lines, and then go “ok pay me now”. Mind boggling 🤡
I agree. I actually said that to her through our email exchange. I asked her how she could be ok with doing this to me and leaving me with basically nothing for what she charged me.
Heavily tattooed Canadian over here… paid $3,500 for my entire sleeve!! Those tattoos are the size of flash tattoos… should have taken 30 mins and cost shop minimum. My brain hurts even thinking about this
Me too! I have an amazing sleeve that's cost me so much less than what this scammer is charging for literally nothing.
Also Canadian, I have 2 medium-large flash pieces on my arm, more coverage than Lindsay did for sure, and they were ~$800 CAD total. Probably 6-7 hours of tattooing combined. Nothing about her time or cost makes any sense.
My tattoo was supposed to be a sleeve. And I was fine with paying what she charged. From the work that I saw, she did the style I wanted. I thought she could deliver on what she said she would. Clearly, that was not the case. She was supposed to add watercolour to the flowers, and the sunset was a secondary element.
I’m Canadian and $1000 for a tattoo like that is CRAZY expensive she has to be called out thanks for bringing this up!!
I paid around $720 USD (not including tip) for my entire spine to be tattooed which was two sessions/4ish hours total. I got a semi realistic looking spine with broken off ribs in black and gray. This was from an artist with like 30 plus years of experience tattooing and my shit looks dope. I would have paid more for it because of how well it was executed. The amount of money they spent on THAT tattoo is absolutely ridiculous!
That sounds very reasonable. Would love to see the artwork. Please send Lauren a photo. ❤
that tattoo sounds amazing i would like to see it too please!
@waterdragon2224 sorry to sound dumb, but treacletatts is Lauren, correct? My insomnia has been pretty bad lately and my brain is tired lol 😆
@@missfeisty lol. Yes Lauren is treacletatts. ☺️
@missfeisty all good if you're not comfortable with it, but your spine tattoo sounds amazing!! Do you have a photo you're comfortable to share on a instagram account or anything? :)
I'm convinced some of these victims just never took time to see what fair pricing for tattoos are before throwing their money at an artist. It's not their fault they're being scammed at all but at some point something should start adding up.
Yeah the person Ultimately still is the victim and was scammed, but honestly, everyone needs to be more okay with cutting losses and with having a spine.
Develop a good bullsshit detector and you'll still probably get scammed but it will be less damaging.
@@dismurrart6648 I thought I was the unicorn. Given what had happened. I really thought she would do a great job on my sleeve. She and I had extensive conversations. I even offered her help about how to get her business back. I had given her suggestions about how to work changing the perception of her. Lol... I am the asshole. :)
thats what i'm saying... how does she even book ppl when there has to be more reasonably priced artists in the area?? just a bit of research and they'd know her pricing system is not the norm and over the top esp for the work she produces. kinda blows my mind lol
@@lex_ak a lot of small business owners (eg. tattoo artists, mechanics etc) are great at their craft, but not necessarily the 'business/customer service' side of things. THAT Lyndsay woman is able to do all that scamming due to being a woman, approachable and having good customer service skills (before scamming people) IMHO.
If you do pay for a consultation, that should go towards the final cost of the tattoo, and definitely shouldn't be $850!
The $850 deposit is to be applied to the final session.
I feel bad for this lady but sorry after seeing that first bit of “watercolour” there’s no way I’d return and pay a further $2000? 😭
I think it is part of the human psyche to think we have invested so much on something that we need to keep going with it.
sunk-cost fallacy
noun
the phenomenon whereby a person is reluctant to abandon a strategy or course of action because they have invested heavily in it, even when it is clear that abandonment would be more beneficial.
"the sunk-cost fallacy creeps into a lot of major financial decisions"
@@libbybaker86 very interesting, never heard of this
@@rachelw345 for sure, after all the time and energy and money already invested. I trusted she was going to do what she agreed to. Appt 1 seemed to be the outline and get the sunset started. For appt 2, I thought she would get through more than adding 6 lines. She did not communicate that by adding these lines, she would not finish the rest of the tattoo. As the time went on, I said to her "given the time, we aren't getting the rest of the sunset or the flowers done are we?" She didn't answer and my heart sank. I knew then that I was getting screwed. I knew from the experience of Ri, that if I didn't pay her, she would call the police. So I paid.
@@libbybaker86epic
@@libbybaker86This is TH-cam not a fuckin social studies lesson 😂 Stop copying comments you’ve seen and get a life
At this point I feel like this could be escalated into small claims court (or whatever the canadian equivalent is). I'm gonna be researching artists for months after this just to make sure I don't get scammed 😭
It would be small claims court here yes, as long as the amount in dispute is less than $35,000 per side :) I'm so curious to see if this comes up on canlii but nothing yet (at least for the original tattoogate lady)... Would be in Ontario, but small claims *can* take a while... I'm pretty sure she has about 2 years from the date of the "incident" to start the process though so who knows...
Like what was said in the comment above mine it just has to be under that amount but it has to be over $5000 as well. There’s other options though for civil matters.
4,450 Canadian dollars equal to
3,040 euros
3,273 dollars
2,608 pounds
That is some serious cash for a tattoo that isn't even what the customer wanted.
Unbelievable, right? If I'm paying £2600+ for a tattoo of that size, it had better cure cancer or give me super powers or something.
I paid £800 for a realistic portrait on my forearm from an extremely talented artist. 800!!!! That looks like it would be 200 max ! I feel so bad for her that is a lot of money.
How the hell is this tattooer getting bookings from "word of mouth". How did the victims friend have a good session with this scammer who sits down for 3 hours, does 5% of what a regular artist would do in that time and charge 3x the price. Does she only scam some of her clients or are there people who really dont know how much they should be paying for tattoos/time.
I’ve wondered that myself… I’ve seen here Instagram, and she is posting current work… completed. Did she randomly decide to screw me over and do a great job for the next person???
How can one woman be so awful to so many people under the guise of being an "artist"?
I can’t believe she’s STILL scamming. 🤦🏻♀️
I understand that a lot if ppl are anti social media and have no desire to be associated with any of it....but these are the ways that keeping an ear to social media every so often can be informative & educational smh
I'd be furious if I paid well over a thousand dollars to have a little amount of work done that's mediocre at best. Lindsey is shameless and awful.
I know people who got big bicep pieces. It was a few hours and less than $600 including tip. Years later it still looks great.
One of my local tattoo shop charges 1 hour of the hourly rate for deposit. When I went in, what I wanted took right around an hour. That artist probably could have slowed down a little and charged me more. But she didn't, and that's one of the reasons I'll go back when I have something that fits her style.
This was such a good video! One thing though, the term esk*mo is actually a slur for Inuit people, so please avoid using it in future! I know that a lot of us were taught that this is the correct term at school but Inuit people have spoken out on the history of the word, and asked us to avoid using it!
Apologies on that! I’ll make sure to not do that in the future.
I’ve actually had conversations about this to literal eskimos and they don’t mind it because it’s not what it actually means to them. It wasn’t until white people made the word derogatory by going by the definition of raw meat eater….but that’s not its origin. So it’s perfectly fine to still use it. Don’t believe everyone on the internet.
@@Mars_doll As a native person I think you should just be respectful instead of worrying about the grey areas. If you wanna be more respectful you don’t refer to inuit natives as eskimos because if you’re a white person the meaning and understanding is a bit of a different thing. Just because you know why and how it became a slur, other people may not.
The swastika wasn’t originally a nazi symbol but if you see people wearing the swastika the nazis used it’s safe to assume they’re an actual neo nazi.
@@Mars_dollI don't think it's "perfectly" fine to use. I know in Canada Inuit definitely don't like this term being used. Thats not to say every Inuk on the planet take offense, it's still a term used pejoratively historically. So coming from a non inuk you should refrain to use this term liberally. Of course if you know Inuit referring to themselves as esk*mo and invite you to do the same than that's fine but it's definitely not universal.
To the Inuit it's like the n-word. It translates literally as "person who eats raw fish" and they find it deeply insulting. Inuit means "people" and the singular form is Inuk.
I got tattooed for 4 hours last week, working on a large leg tattoo, and it cost around $600cad
This is insane!
The amount of money this woman charges is absolutely crazy! I've researched into getting a traditional tribal tattoo done in the traditional hand tap style of my ancestors but by modern artists who've studied the meanings, can design something specific to me and my family history, and they don't charge that much for a design and tattoo!
When you gave the prices per session my heart stopped even my largest tattoo was a fraction of those extortionate prices and it's on my chest/collar bone area. When I've made appointments and paid for a deposit it was for the artist to hold that time slot for me and then used towards the final tattoo payment and if we didn't use as much time as we scheduled I've been refunded. Also my artists have never taken my inspiration photos and completely ignored them. That's awful and I'm sorry that these people were roped into this dumpster fire.
I wonder if she gave Theresa her deposit back BECAUSE of the legal mess she created w/ the other two tictokers.. like she could say in court “I’m reasonable, look at this lady who asked for her deposit and I gave it to her” sort of deal
Maybe... in reality, she was still paid $3800 for the little work she did.
can i just say kudos to you for asking permission to cover a story! not only is it respectful, but i think too many commentary channels will discuss topics in a rude way and not even recognize the people involved are real people
This is the perfect example of the Fallacy of Sunken Cost & I’m happy she was like “Nope, I’m out. You got all you’re getting from me”
Absolutely. I mean, she did get $3800 from me. But she was trying to double that. She quoted me 2 to 2 1/2 sessions. Then tried to tell me it would take at least that to finish the tattoo. I noped out.
My first reaction to the video notification was how? 😂
You know, your videos are a sort of consultation for us. I feel like you can charge us around $200 per consultation. You'll be in a mansion with a herd of Corgis by Valentine's Day! 😂 Thanks for keeping us in the loop about this shady lady; I hope her career shudders to a halt sometime soon.
You had me at corgis cough up that $200 Josh 😂.. I kid!!
@@treacletattsI knew it! All it takes to get you to slide into corruption is the promise of dogs! 😂
They’re my only weakness 😂
@@treacletattsOh, to be surrounded by a herd of corgis.
😂😂😂
not done video yet, at the pricing part. And- I have one tattoo (on my ribs) and one of my appointments I went in and I literally COULDNT sit through it my body just tapped out immediately. My artist was super understanding, sat and chatted with me until my ride got there. She only charged me for supplies (cause she opened them) and she DIDNT take my deposit. I actually asked if she was because I was totally down and understanding if she did and to resupply a deposit for future apps but she outtright refused. Bcuz I showed up and tried and my body said no, but I tried so she said no.
I am pretty sure I tipped this woman as much as my tattoo cost, lol.
Hi! Just wanted to say that I got my first tattoo a few days ago thanks in part to the information and encouragement from this channel, and I can safely say I did NOT pay over $1,000 for something that only takes up my inner forearm (it was $450 Australian, which is around $296 American according to online converters). Thank you for being such an open fountain of positivity and covering these scam artists!
Why do people _agree_ to these prices? Does the artist never discuss pricing beforehand? Do people think that if they overspend they'll get a better tattoo? Is it the location, like a high cost-of-living area? I'm not trying to be rude, I just don't get it
I guess the pressure and not wanting to say no.
Well..., I don't know sh*t about tattoo artist fees as someone with zero tattoo. And rare are the artists who openly share their prices. (Which is understandable since every piece is different and some people will be entitled if you show a price) but the result is I genuinely can't even tell what is a correct price range for a certain size tattoo. I know plastic surgery is a few k$ so my guess is people think something as permanent can also be a few k$
It was supposed to be a watercolour sleeve… and I was fine paying for what she quoted to finish it. But, jokes on me.
I think it's a few things: I don't think it's a coincidence that every victim of Tattogate that we've seen has been a woman. Women are generally socialized to smooth over conflict, refrain from being confrontational, and are discouraged from being clear and authoritative about decisions involving their own bodies. You see the effects of all this in everything from fashion to medicine, but it's a particularly toxic combo when you're talking about a scam artist who is deliberately leveraging these things to manipulate her female customers (and I suspect is also using the fact that she herself is a woman to build trust with these victims before fleecing them). Throw in someone who's less experienced with tattoos and maybe doesn't know what the going rates are in their area/doesn't know where to find that information, and here we are. It's a really cold, calculating pattern of behavior from the artist that's very disturbing, and I'm glad that more people are speaking up.
@@teressavanvliet6650For what is should have been it would be reasonable. You were scammed, plain and simple, bait and switch is a common extortion/scammer tactic.
This whole scamming business is turning out to be a full-length feature film 😂
Coming soon to a Lifetime original movie near you!
It's called sunk cost fallacy and it's a shame so many fall victim to it.
girl im sorry i had to tell you that top is gorgeous we can see all ur cute tattoos also that hair has to be my favourite of what you’ve done with the little white strands! also i love all your videos sm they make my day better to sit down and watch
Thank you so much 🥹🫶🏻
I almost thought your tattoos were a shirt before i realized youre wearing a tank top. They just blend in that flawlessly.
Oh you’re too kind 😭🫶🏻
Lindsay should be arrested for extortion
I love your necklace! Anyone know where's it from?
Also would like to add that as someone who gets tattooed in Ontario, Canada (where tattoo gate happened), I got my whole sleeve done for approx. 3k, by an incredible artist. Almost $2000 for a 2 hour session is a crime, and she should absolutely be taken to small claims court by all three women.
I bought it from this jewellery maker on IG 😄🫶🏻 instagram.com/love.rokz?igshid=OGQ5ZDc2ODk2ZA==
Hey, Lauren! I love your videos/channel and I really wanted to make a mention about a phrase you used in this video.... Using “Eskimo” today is considered pejorative or derogatory simply because “eater of raw meat” is not how Inuit choose to refer to themselves, and they never did. The word is an exonym-a name given to a group by another group-and its continued use can perpetuate harmful stereotypes.
Seriously? I had no idea!
@@theMermaidRhonda the more you know🌈💖
I was just about to say this. Thank you for bringing it up :)
It’s not
The top comment already said that..
Granted, I'm not Canadian and I've never had a tattoo done over in that part of the world, but I just can't get over the price of that tattoo.. My two biggest tattoos combined are at least 5-6 times the size of her tattoo, took roughly 10 hours to complete and I didn't even pay half the price of what she paid for that. I don't even understand what that "artist" did for all those hours to drag it out for that long. I don't think I've ever met a tattoo artist who couldn't have finished that thing in one sitting.
That woman really must have the gift of the gab because I truly don't know how she manages to keep ripping people off like that..
It is insane for Canada too. I can't believe people would pay that it.
Canadian here. I got my entire thigh completed for much less than what she paid. That tiny thing should have cost an hours rate at most. 200$ tops.
I only have my friend who lives in Guelph to go off of, but absolutely overpriced lmfaooo.
The price is INSANE!! I've gotten my ENTIRE calf done in a total of 10 hours of work, neo-traditional, very well done for 800 € - which is $860.
With how petty she is I hope she doesn’t legally come after you, Lauren, for “defamation” (emphasis on the quotation marks there)!! Stay safe ❤
Doubt she will go after someone with a larger following. She’s a bully and wants to go after smaller creators because she thinks she can get away with it.
I have a huge coverup on my right calf that goes from my achilles tendon to the back of my knee.. It took my artist just 7 hours and cost me $1400 NZD including deposit (just under $1200 CAD if my calculations are correct), and she drew it up right in front of my face during my *free* consultation. It wasn't an easy one to do either, the tattoo that was being covered was biiiig and still *very* dark, but you can now only see tiny parts of it if I tell you where to look. My tattooer is a wildly talented, absolute beast 🙌♥
I feel sorry for anyone who encounters scam artists like Lindsay.
What tattoo artist is this and where? I live in NZ and want a good artist! Would love a recommendation!
@@DeeDub111 Erin Chance at Thunderhorse Tattoo 🙂
Dying of the flu, so thank you Lauren for distracting me with your amazing content ❤
Feel better soooooon 🩷
Situations like this always reminds me of how grateful I am for finding my artist. & I'm sure tattoo gate will continue.
I took a 9yr break from getting tattoos bc my old artist had to close his shop due to his own health problems & it took me 9ys to find a new artist I liked. I finally found my new artist about 2.5ish yrs ago & since then I've gotten 16 tattoos by him. Bc im loyal customer (always on time & never cancels) he's chosen to give me certain perks like not charging me a deposit for appointments anymore & he's even offered me to come in to fill a cancelation spot in which I attempted to decline bc my bank had already closed for the day but he insisted I go ahead & come in anyways & pay him 2days later when I had time to get to the bank. Now that's trust. Of course he got his money + generous tip for trusting me.
This is crazy prices!!!! I have a palm-sized greyscale tattoo on my inside right forearm. I paid a deposit based on the total amount the artist quoted, which was £90. The tattoo ended up coming out a little bigger and more complex than initially anticipated, but my artist *insisted on honouring the quoted price.* I ended up tipping her about £50 to ensure she was properly compensated for the extra work and time, along with tipping for her excellent work.
Edit: forgot to clarify, my deposit was put towards the final total, it wasnt in addition to it.
My jaw DROPPED. This artist does not deserve to have any clients.
such a treat to see a new video from you pop up 4 days away from my next tattoo! building the hype. love your stuff as always
The original woman involved with tattoogate (fox tattoo) is named Courtney, not Christine! Just clarifying in case anyone is confused.
Sorry but she should of left after the first appointment. Trust your gut and stand up for yourself! It's your money, skin and time.
All 4 of my tattoos are watercolor and let me tell you none of them look like that! That watercolor looks like she was spray painting and missed spots.
I've seen a few comments here, and I just want to say I greatly appreciate your accountability and responsibility being a creator. You do your best to educate yourself as fast as possible, instead of staying ignorant, and i say props to you you beautiful human for doing your best :D
OMFG!!! I have a custom, color, full thigh piece from a literal ink master that was on TV that I flew to another state to get. And I paid less.
And that’s including my flight and hotel! Wow.
I'm convinced she will keep doing it forever with no issue. No matter how much her reputation is tarnished online, it doesn't matter. She is not fishing, she is whaling. One catch every few months is enough to fill the bag.
Canada needs to shut her down
Okay this has nothing to do with the video topic but your necklace is absolutely stunning! 😍
Ah thank you so much 🥹🫶🏻
I bought it from this jewellery maker on IG instagram.com/love.rokz?igshid=OGQ5ZDc2ODk2ZA==
The most I've ever paid for a single session was around $1000. 5.5hrs working on my full colour leg sleeve, the artist charged $160/hr (pretty average for my area) but I also always tip when I am financially able to and when I love how the tattoos look.
My god that olive lace top you’re wearing looks gorgeous on you! ✨
something to note: "eskimo" is a derogatory term towards Canadian indigenous groups, the correct term in Inuk to refer to a person, and Inuit to refer to a group!
It’s not and there is a whole thread about it above
@@maryjane4432 what thread are you referring to, I can’t find it/gen
I'm shocked someone chose to go to her knowing what happened with the other customer.
Thank goodness someone’s posting. I feel like i watched everything already
Wishing you all the best lauren
And you my love 🥹🫶🏻
Why did she make it look like cartoon waves and add bubbles?? That was not the vibe of the original AT ALL💀
When I got my 4th tattoo I had scheduled a Jack o lantern tattoo with an artist 2 months in advance, only to show up and find out that the day before my appointment he had done a halloween themed flash event where he only charged $30 for any tattoo on the flash page, gave me the same jack o lantern that he had on the page, then charged me $100. Still makes me upset to this day but seeing the stories about what this artist is doing makes me so relieved that it wasn’t worse.
I clicked immediately because how do we have another tattoogate again?!
Hey, just wanted to point out that the word you used in the expression "sell ice to an e*****" is widely considered to be a slur against the Inuit people.
Apologies on that, I wasn't aware.
@@treacletattsyour the sweetest, now you know!!
She could have had 1 full arm sleeve and 1 half sleeve by now.
It was supposed to be a sleeve… she ignored the 4 flowers up my arm and focussed on the minor part, which was the sunset. That’s why I cut my losses. After 2 sessions of failure, there was no way she was going to do the rest of the sleeve in the time she said it would take.
@@teressavanvliet6650 at least you learned the red flags to avoid on your next tattoo artist.
Not againnnn
We got tattoo gate whiplash over here
I have to ask how is this scammer still in business and not in jail? I hate that tattoo gate is still going on it is horrible
Woke up with insomnia and thought I could watch this video, but I fell asleep once Lauren started talking; too cozy, so I'm rewatching!
I love your top and your big red necklace where did you find them ? ❤
Top is from primark and necklace is from instagram.com/love.rokz?igshid=OGQ5ZDc2ODk2ZA==
For people who are curious about pricing in Canada, I got my chest piece done by a fairly popular artist. They open their books for 24h and book out 6 months at a time. I paid a $100 deposit and $500 after the tattoo was completed (took 3.5h). I have a gorgeous 8×6 inch design. I cannot BELIEVE that anyone would charge this much
Heyo, just a friendly FYI in case you weren't aware: Eskimo is considered outdated and derogatory to native Alaskan people, I'm pretty sure. On another note: Scammers be scamming, like damn.
I’m Inuit and it’s not offensive. White people need to stop telling us what we should be offended by
@@maselm Well I mean just because you personally aren’t offended doesn’t mean others aren’t, and second, I’m not white. You do you tho lol
@@MmeViper And just because you’re acting offended on behalf of another race, doesn’t mean everyone is offended. You do you
@@maselm I’m not offended, just figured I’d point it out, but okay.
@@MmeViper You’re deeply offended. I can tell. You haven’t been able to sleep for weeks
I love your intro where you say you hope we’re sitting comfortably and have our snacks and bevvies. I’m currently snackless but do have a cozy blanket and adorable cat on my lap and some tea, of course.
AH the way you glow!!!! gorgeous :D i’m so excited to watch the vid!! thank youu for your hard work
Meanwhile the person hosting an art sale in in tomorrow has had to express to us MULTIPLE times not to under sell our work bc none of us want to charge a lot for our work bc AHHHHHHHHHHH
This woman is quite literally the definition of “what in the audacity “
In art sale you see the price and if you have the money and that art is worth it to you, you buy it! Some might see the price and say "woah, no way!" But thats fine, they dont understand all that goes into original art and if they dont like it enough to pay that price, they don't have to. Also a lot of people going to art markets know its gonna be a lot more expensive than buying a mug at target.
I guess if this person was quoted 3 grand for the tattoo in the first place, thats one thing.... maybe it seemed worth it to not spend the effort trying to find another artist with a style they like.... but then not doing what the client wanted and agreed to pay for, and then not completing the incorrect, simpler work for anywhere close to the estimate.... 🤯 THAT is a scam
A consultation fee then a drawing fee + deposit and hourly sounds like a scam. I just got a huge addition to my sleeve from a well known artist and with tip it wasnt $1,500 thats just insane. The fact that she even bothered to go back blows my mind.
LAUREN IM OBSESSED WITH THAT LIP COLOR ON YOU
An thank you so much lovely 🥹🫶🏻
It takes a special kind of evil to keep stealing these amounts of money from different people over and over without remorse.
Just got my biggest piece to date today, talked to my artist about your content! Love your videos ❤
I love your necklace!! Where did you get it?
I bought it from this jewellery maker 🫶🏻 instagram.com/love.rokz?igshid=OGQ5ZDc2ODk2ZA==
Lauren you look so healthy and happy, I hope you are doing well!!!❤️ thank you for everything!
$1500?! That's a rip off and I don't understand who would be paying for that shit work.
How is she still getting clients?!!!! 🥴
For me in my lil city of the uk, the money from the consultation fee has always gone into the final cost of the tattoo, an it was mainly because people were going in getting design ideas then never coming back.
what do you think her tattoo(s) should have cost? mine are all over 20 years old, and I'm reeling at what she paid.
For the ammount of work probably $700 max!! (I know tattoos are a bit more expensive in USA / Canada but I wouldn’t have been comfortable paying more than £500 for she had done)
Maybe 300. I got a forearm pinup and that was under 1000$ Most artists are under 200 a hour.
Think there might be one of these scammers in my area too, my dad went around asking shops for quotes on a small tattoo he wanted and one person quoted him over £500 saying it would take a full day, I warned to avoid that place. He ended up going to a really nice place where it took an hour and a half and cost around £100 and it looks amazing. The tattoo he wanted was only about 2 inches big and no colour for context
I’m still really perturbed that I live so close to this artist, I literally used to work just down the street, definitely drives home that scammers are everywhere.
Reading some comments I do want to say her practices and prices are not normal for our area at all but I think she takes advantage of the fact that tattoo prices and practices are still not totally transparent or easy to find for individual artists and by the time a new client feels there’s something up they’ve already been sucked into the sunken cost fallacy with her, she was not transparent at all with her pricing even once it was too late. I won’t call her a master manipulator but she’s definitely found a way to exploit people who often don’t have the experience to know any better or already felt like they’ve put too much money in to back out at that point. This channel probably draws a lot of people with an interest in tattoos and therefore knowledge but not everyone has the same exposure to “tattoo culture” and etiquette, nor is everyone totally google and social media savvy so you get a lot of generic answers or ranges of prices so people can only do so much on their end. Prior to tattoo gate she definitely was representing herself quite professionally with a bright and clean looking studio so I’m not shocked she drew some people in who might have felt uncomfortable in a more “traditional” feeling studio or who didn’t have the “tattoo literacy” people with a deeper interest in the art might have. Let’s remember who the scammer is and that clients are not omniscient and do not deserve to be scammed. It might have been big news to people interested in tattoo content but I recently had a convo with friends about it, one who lives in the same city as her studio, and none had heard of it. Scammy people are good at continuing to scam.
At 17 I went with my parents to a famous artist for a consultation. The artist had a daughter around my age. Well my dad told me the artist told him to bribe to get me to back out of the tattoo with a puppy. Well 10 years later I’m sitting here with my father and puppy
I'm from a tattoo shop in QC Canada and my mentor is very well known in the QC tattoo community. The price Teressa paid for these relatively small/medium sized tattoos is like almost the price my mentor charges for a full hyperealistic sleeve, that's an absolutely insane price for those tattoos.
The audacity!!!! I have a thigh piece quoted out that would cover a good portion of the front of my though - it’s quoted at $900CAD, and that’s with more detail and larger than that!
That poor lady, I think I spent $3000 us on my leg sleeve and that's in full color
I feel so bad for folks who get duped into thinking they need to spend about a year's college tuition for such a piece. I had a three-hour session a couple of weeks ago (I'm also in Canada), and it cost me 420$.
We need to find a way to get the word out there so that people like Lindsay can't keep ripping people off.
this is getting SO outta hand she needs to stop tattooing forever
I don’t have tattoos (I’m more a piercings kinda gurl lol), I don’t care about tattoos usually but I just can’t get enough of your coverage of tattoo dramas, you’re soo on going gurl!! when I can’t sleep and bf is sleeping, I just put the video on big screen in the living room, sit down with a cup of tea in black oversized hoodie and enjoy the ride, de-light-ful 💅🏾
When I first saw her tattoo I was like.. it’s not bad, maybe this is what the artist told her she was going to do instead.. But then after the second session where she had clearly stated she was unhappy and wanted straight lines and she still went a different direction I was like ooohh. Also with the stencil she couldn’t have known what it would look like since the design was abstract watercolor. Also the price just is not.. ok. $200/hour is normal for decent artists. Even $600 for palm size, $1000 for full day (this is what my supernatural dream artists that is impossible to book with charges) is acceptable. But over 1000 for what 3-5 hours is crazy.
The tattoo isn’t bad though.. Although I’m sure it’s sucks having something she didn’t agree to.
Also just wanted to add that doing straight lines around a body part apparently is a real pain in the ass. I’ve heard my artist talk about how it’s really hard to get right so they don’t like doing them.
If that was the case she should have explained that she didn’t think she could make straight lines look good instead of just doing something else entirely.
Had to pause the video just to say how much I loooove your hair!! 😭💖
I click on yout videos to check on the bab axolotls and I stay for you everytime 😅
They’re sadly hiding behind the candles this time 😩 but they’re still there!!