The Best 3D Printer To Buy In 2023
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 มิ.ย. 2024
- In this video we look at 3 3D printers from 3 of the biggest manufacturers in the field, Creality, Elegoo, and Sovol. Two of the printers are Kilpper based, one is Marlin, all are very fast. All three of these printers are capable of printing at speeds in excess of 150mm/s.
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Thank you this helps a lot! Just subscribed
Thanks for reviewing them. Good info
I purchased the Elegoo Neptune 3 Pro. I am a beginner. It’s awesome. Very pleased with my purchase. The suppled test print file came out perfect.
Glad you enjoy it!
It's been a while, but I'd like to get back into 3D printing. It's come a long way since I bought my first on (Anet A3). Thanks for the comparison and info.
My first was an A8. It took me 4 days to assemble. This is a different world. Since you have some experience, the Neptune 4 Pro is my recommendation for you.
@@learnelectronics Yeah, it looks good. You get a lot for your money with that one. I'll be happy not to have to level the bed by hand. Even the older printers that first had auto leveling, you'd still have to fudge with the bed to get it right.
That's the biggest hurdle for noobs. Getting that z offset just right.
Even though I am experienced with my creality ender 3 v2 I still have problems with the z offset and manually leveling and using the sprite to auto level. I still get failures at certain spots on the bed so the ender 3 v3 ke be my 1st pick as a future replacement.
I really like that auto z offset
For my first one which should I chooose? Ender or the elegoo
I got that fast sturdy one as the first, but hey, i may be new to 3d printing but not multi axis flat beds :D it's printing right now!
Big thanks for this. Which one do you like most for mass production of intricate PLA products where output quality and speed is priority? Cheers 👍
Of the 3 I showed in this video, the Elegoo Neptune 4 pro is the hands down winner. amzn.to/48sxEG8
Thanks!@@learnelectronics
Good video, lots of information and clearly presented. Can any of the 3 printers handle metal printing?
Metal? these print in plastic, nylon, ABS and such - Actual 3d metal printers are very expensive.
You can get filament with up to 30% or so metallic particles. Most popular are copper and bronze. But full on metal printing like sintering is more in the industrial market. These printers are for home use.
sovol or neptune? which do you trust more. im considering the neptune 4 non pro or pro. the sovol sv06 has many z axis issues from what i hear, crashing into print bed. i already have the se, i had considered the ke for klipper. i dont like how hot the stepper motors get and my printed parts arent accurate. tolerance i guess. i hear bad stuff about both klippered printers
Have you looked at the E3V3...no se, no ke. So far I am really liking it. amzn.to/43baDVQ
Creality loadcell or Cheps Etool? Both help set your Z-Offset.
Elegoo Neptune 4
Klipper and Accelerometer built in helps to be faster when printing.
Best out of box experience.
Put it together, level, and run a print fast.
Me - Creality Ender 3 S1 Pro
Doesn't include Klipper.
Does include volcano style hotend, all metal heatbreak, direct extruder and a PEI magnetic bed cover.
Has rhe potential to compete at Elegoo Neptune 4 speeds.
You should build 'The 100' if you want to melt plastic fast while looking cool.
I'm waiting on the Proton..or Photon
@@learnelectronics Voron?
Voron is definitely on my list.
This led to the fastest printer in the world. VzBot is currently the fastest.
While your waiting for your delivery, and with multiple printers, you could complete the The 100 printable portions.
I like the idea of buying a cheap printer and printing yourself a higher quality machine.
I like the elegoo 4 pro , but can you still get the speeds without using the online clipper software ? Ty
Ps: are the directions well written?
Klipper is the installed firmware in the machines. But if you don't want to interact with it, there is no reason you have to. You can print from your favorite slicer to an sd card. Pop the SD card in and select print! Just like any other printer and yes it will give you high speeds. Instructions are ok. Support is outstanding.
@@learnelectronics thank you very much much for your reply 😎👍🏻
No problem, that's why I'm here. Have a great day. Peace.
Do you have problems with the neptune 4pro, where is it not printing perfect circles. I have read about this problem, where the X and y axses are good but the diagonal i off by 2%?
I have no issues
How quiet are you extruder fans on the elegoo? I have a Neptune 3 Pro and the fans are super loud that it sounds like somethings grinding. They've always been this way out of the box.
On the 4 Pro? Loud. Very loud.
If creality made a ender 5 plus pro. With the level of this Ender 3 v3 se I'd get another one.
I like printers where the Z bed goes down not front to back.
moving bed is sooo bad idea. I have ender 3 and 5. 5 is better, obviously if making thin and tall structures.
Ender 3 v3 SE vs ender 3 v3 KE?
I’m about to buy the KE but I’m not sure if I should go with the SE or even something like the Kobra 2 pro
If this is your first printer, go with the SE. If you have some experience get the KE.
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-ender 3 v3 ke
-sovol 07
-mingda magician x2
-elego neptune 4 pro
Please i need recomendation for this my first printer
i jumped from Ender 3 (first one) to Ender 3 v3 KE and it is like go from 3-whelle bicycle to new Ferrari - 1 click and TURBO magic happens. Prints that had 12h printing now go fluid in like 2hrs or less.
Maybe you can help me w the ender 3 v3 se. When you do the bed leveling, it shows the readings. Mine is blue in the left rear and right front corners. Positive numbers. What is the point of this screen. You can edit those numbers but what does this do? Obviously my bed is bowed and im having trouble printing. Theres no manual adjustments for the print bed. So what do i do?
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Send it back. Do not accept sub par gear. You could try and shim the bed. But you shouldn't have to. Return it. If you have any trouble with Creality, email me and I'll try to help.
all good starters - they all have huge user groups for help as well - I prefer printers that are marlin based - but thats just me.
My only complaint with Marlin is that I like controlling all of printers from a web interface. I would need Octoprint running 6 separate instances to do that. Just a little out of my comfort range for complexity.
@@learnelectronicsI think Creality has something called "wifi box" that you can use for that.
The problem with those user groups is that a lot of them are made by unskilled people, most of the publication are "u have this problem" and the only answer you find is "i have it too".
My Anet A8 motherboard just failed for one of my stepper drivers a week ago and have no printer. I've upgraded it to AM8 and did a lot of print upgrades and maintenance over 5.5 years, and I think it's time I get a new one. But I can't seem to find what printer is best in this new age of 3d printing. I love tinkering with my anet a8 and having control of how it works (if the new printer "just works" then thats fine), but I want something that has a bigger print volume and is around 300-500 range. But I was also looking at Bambu Lab P1P, but it seems that every mid-range printer has its quirks and downsides. Any help?
I've never owned a bamboo, but I understand that they are closed source. If you hang around a bit and keep you eye on a company called Peopoly you will see what the next gen is looking like...no steppers...
@learnelectronics I did see that. Looks really cool! Was also thinking about getting neptune 4 plus that just came out, which ticks all my boxes, except for the fact that people seem to have problems with the software and bed leveling issues from older versions of neptune 4, which I assume carried over into this new one.
sovol svo7 is great along especially if you wanna mod your printer later, or the anycubic kobra 2 pro. I currently use the kobra 2 neo but i wish id just gotten the pro its a better printer by far for just the extra hundred bucks. I dont think you could go wrong with either one though just depends what extras you want, I just dont recommend paying $700+ for a fancy touchscreen and an enclosure if you dont need it along with those fancy new printers software not working all that well because apparently we dont have enough slicers.
Between the Neptune 4 Pro and the newly released Ender3v3, not the Ender 3v3 SE, the budget bed slinger market is pretty much buttoned up between those two.
I think pro is just more maintainence but normal version is cheap maintenance since wheels are literally cheap to change
@@gamingscorpionindia1995 the pro has steel wheels. You're not changing them unless you upgrade to linear rails.
@@rjakiel73yes, but you have to lubricate them periodically
Surprised the anycubic kobra 2 didn’t make it onto here
I asked them. They didn't want to play.
Can you use cura with the bambu lab printers? I heard you can, and you can't.
I don't know. Ive never used a bamboo.
For a beginner? Hands down the SE takes the cake, for the price alone... and how easy it is to set up and get going when the person knows nothing about printers. The downside is this is Creality, and they are known to put out some lemons
SE is 320 AUD, the Sovol is 700+, the Neptune is not available here 😂
Wow 700+ for the Sovol? It's the worst of the bunch
im currently looking at neptune 3 pro or 3 plus cause to me speed isnt that important only accuracy and quality, ihave neder 3 but its not worth upgrading it
Ok. Nep3 is not much different from ender 3.
Love my Elegoo Neptune 4 pro , was my first printer , no problems for me , just saying...
lol just bought the Creality Ender V3 SE , waiting for it to be delivered :)
@@petethescalemodeller6130Now having both which one is better and why? I’m looking into those two printers for my son for his birthday. He has some experience with 3d printers from his school, but I don’t know how much experience that really is.
Neptune 4 is the winner...by far.
Actually the Ender 3 V3 SE has newer firmware available, 1.04 currently.
And? What's it do? I'm not changing firmware on a functioning machine unless there's a good reason.
It's probably best to get the most advanced printer the first time so one is not hampered by the limitations of the less advanced/simpler printers.
☮️ brother.
At the rate this tech is evolving.(speeds increasing from 50 to 500mm/s in a year)it won't matter in another year or so. Right now you could compare this printer to the original IBM PC 5150. A huge leap from the Altair 8080 to the 5151. But in two years it will be a relic. And here's another comparison to mid 80's computers.... everybody is doing their own thing in a race to the bottom so nothing is standardized. I currently have 5 active printers going and need 4 different pieces of software to control them. When there is just 1....wow things will really open up.
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VHS vs Betamax
Really appreciate the opinions and comparisons, but man the camera shake is nauseating. A cheap phone gimbal would make a world of difference.
I made $270 from TH-cam last month. I can't afford one. But it's on my list.
@@learnelectronics Yikes, that doesn't seem fair with 157k subs. I hope things get better for you man, best of luck with it!
The Elegoo is the best hands down
Its not a bl touch its a cr touch yeah it does the same but the cr touch is way more accurate then the bl touch sensor
xaxax the z offset is a thing thats boring now the new printers do it and klipper is better to set it
I know it wasn't listed, but my bambu lab p1p is about as user friendly as a printer can be. I knew nothing about 3d printing and this machine made it ridiculously easy.
Of course this comes at a price. I think the p1p is around 600 ATM. But the printer is ridiculously fast and easy to use.
Absolutely. I was keeping things about $300 or less for new folks. To the left of my Neptune is my Qidi X Plus 3. That's a killer printer, but about 900 bucks.
You said it, $600, only an old or a very bad printer can be unfriendly with beginners at that price (talking to you Lulzbot)
Yeah it’s harder to justify 600 when just starting.
Bambulab sucks because they employ the classic proprietary bs anticonsumer tactics, if you give money to bambu you are feeding a lion.
“Like they got their naming from Ibanez guitars” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
^^^^ knows Ibanez
Perfer The Auto leveling....One ,Creality
They all auto level. But the Creality does auto Z offset, that's the selling point. The other printers have multiple steps the user must execute. The Creality has one menu item. You select it and go have a beer. When you return the machine is leveled, meshed, and offset. Bang. Done. Let's print. My first printer was an Anet A8 that took me 4 days just assemble. And it was never really reliable. The Creality and the Elegoo are reliable excepting any mechanical or component failure. The Sovol is a good printer, but was rushed to market to compete with the Elegoo (I think) and they cut corners. The printer crashing when i touched the cable on the screen is a huge red flag for me.
Congrats on the 155k subscribers. It's time to get a gumball. Too big a channel for shaky cam brother.
I made $270 in TH-cam revenue last month, wish I could afford one.
That’s not how that works my dude, there’s twitch streamers making bank and they still have a Logitech webcam and no back drop. Just let people do them.
I bought the Neptune 4 Pro as my first printer because I stumbled across the actual information regarding Ender printers and the company that makes them. Pretty obvious that they're bottom of the barrel, hot garbage compared to the competition. Comparing the Ender line to printers either in their price bracket (the V3 really doesn't hold up to the competition JUST because of easy assembly and how fast you can go from box to print, thats a hilariously weak argument when recommending printers) they will look good because they can out perform the copy/paste Chinese garbage.
However, there are a few things people SHOULD know about the Neptune 4 and 4 Pro before buying them besides "they're fast". The bed leveling is really good as it has both manual and automatic leveling. The Pro has over 100 leveling spots while the 4 non pro has something like 36. Prints will end up worse on the 4 if you're doing something large and complex.
The 4 Pro also has a filament sensor, which works well. Haven't had any issues with it. The biggest issue I've had is the bed not being totally level. No matter how much level tweaking I did, it just couldn't get rid of the 2 huge lumps in the middle of my bed. I'm talking 0.06 high. The way I fixed it was by getting a glass bed and putting the PEI sheet on top of the glass bed. The 4 Pro has a magnetic sensor for leveling. So you can't use just glass beds unless you change the sensor out. Changing the sensor would likely include swapping out a majority of the components and making it look/work different. It doesn't bother me but I still count that as a negative.
Elegoo is using promotional material to point out that the 4 and 4 Pro can print higher temp filaments such as Nylon. Well, I decided to print some stuff with Nylon GF and it worked well! However, the nozzles they provided (they give you 3 of them, one in the printer and 2 in a bag) are made of brass. I've spoken to Elegoo directly about this and they pretty much avoided the question by saying it can print Nylon. The direct drive gears and the heat block ARE steel but the most important part, the nozzle, is not. My nozzle lasted probably 100g of filament before it was just torn up. So I ordered a new hardened steel nozzle that will be here in 2 weeks or so.
So while I think the Ender line is okay for someone who just wants to print hobby stuff, it's not okay for anything serious. The company is terrible and I would never recommend them. The Neptune 4 and 4 Pro are good but they're currently too new for me to be able to really recommend them to anyone since you'll find issues like I mentioned and have really stupid work arounds. If you're going to use stuff like PLA for professional printing, the 4 Pro is awesome for that.
What have you heard about the company? What information have you stumbled across?
I almost pulled the trigger on a Neptune 4 Pro as my first 3D printer, but stopped myself after seeing one too many videos saying that it has an alignment issue (not seen with the naked eye) that will cause problems with functional prints that require high accuracy. Especially if you're fitting a cylinder shape into another one (one video showed a cylinder print with different measurements along the cylinder). Have you found this to be the case with your Neptune 4 Pro? Or do you mostly print art pieces that don't require precision?
I bought my N4P for precise gun part manufacturing. I have seen plenty of people complain about various issues and give extremely complex fixes for those problems but I haven't had any issues that would indicate it has an issue. It works just fine for me and my use cases.
To be more specific, the parts I print are using Nylon GF30 within 0.01mm. Still haven't found a reason to believe the N4P has a problem. I believe those reviews either got a lemon, had no idea how to properly set it up or just print benchies all day looking for something to bitch about so they can tell people to spend more on a Creality instead.@@MozDivision
@@Gojira_Wins thanks for the feedback. It really is the best value on paper. And it looks nicer than the Sovol printers too. I might get it after all, but I'll wait to see if they have some deals for Black Friday
Ender 3
I can attest that I want to throw my first 3d printer out of the window on the 8th floor, own a tevoup hydra, whatever you do, never buy one. has made me completely lose the desire to use 3d printers!
I personally don't think that people who cannot figure out a z offset and tramming should be printing with hot plastic. These machines are not rocket science...they are more like sea monkey science, and they should be at the happy ground between helpful and figuring it out yourself through actual learning.
Can you do a toaster tolerance test on the neptune 4 pro? People say it does worse that it should
Yes, hang on though. I've got a Neptune 4 Max on the way. We will do them both.
@@learnelectronics i just got my Neptune 4 delivered today. I will also be conducting tests and sharing results. Look forward to your video
Elegoo has an update for the Neptune 4.
I am getting ready to flash my printer to the updated firmware and pendant screen update.
I had an issue with my Neptune 4 but Elegoo is coming through famously on customer support.
I am installing linear rails on all three axis so I will have a brute beyond the 4 Pro.
Contact Elegoo should you need the updated files.
Cheers.@@NaqiRaza