South China Sea dispute explained
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 พ.ค. 2024
- The South China Sea is one of the most infamous territorial conflicts in the world, involving six governments (China, Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei, the Philippines & Taiwan), as well as plenty of external actors (United States, India, Japan, Australia, etc.). Focus point of the dispute are the many tiny islands, reefs and rocks which are scattered across the South China Sea, including the Spratlys, Paracels, Pratas & more. These islands are the key to controlling this vital region defined by strategically important trading routes, natural resources like oil and gas, as well as the geopolitical rivalry between the USA and China.
In this video we explore what is behind the South China Sea dispute and find answers to the following questions: Why is it important and valuable to all these nations? Who is involved and why? And what does this conflict mean for the future of regional and global peace?
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Timestamps:
0:00 Introduction
1:17 Value of the South China Sea
4:15 The claimants
7:48 Other actors
12:14 Chinese-American rivalry
18:09 Outro
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Sources:
Robert D. Kaplan (2014) Asia's Cauldron: The South China Sea and the End of a Stable Pacific.
Bill Hayton (2015) The South China Sea: The Struggle for Power in Asia.
Ren H. & Lui F. (2013) Transitional Security Patterns in the South China Sea and the Involvement of External Parties. In: Issues & Studies 49:2.
John J. Mearsheimer (2001) The Tragedy of Great Power Politics
U.S.-China Strategic Competition in South and East China Seas: Background and Issues for Congress. Online: sgp.fas.org/crs/row/R42784.pdf
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@@sureindubitably3771 could ask nicely smh
@@asianlifter 🤣
Bro, if you read this comment, can you explain to me what does this sentence mean? Thank you very much
ASEAN, the organization with 10 members with 10 different cultures, government, ideology and languages. Fun times
It's going to be 11, actually. More fun!
@@budakbaongsiah who is the new member?
Timor Leste.
Indonesian, Malaysian, Singaporean, and Brunei all speak a similar enough mix of Malay dialects and English
@@budakbaongsiah well Singapore still reject it
Thanks for making this video. Well done 👍🏻
Correction: ROC claimed 11 dash line, after PRC took power it reduced to 9 dash line.
he is trying to make taiwan look more innocent
@@NeostormXLMAX Not so. In the 1950s, the Republic of China's 11-dash line was changed to the nine-dash line by the People's Republic of China as a concession to a partial dispute with Vietnam over the Gulf of Tonkin.
@@Audrey_Lai你规定的？弱的时候让步！强的时候是否能进步
Standing on the point of a Vietnamese, this is the first and the most truly video i have ever seen from an foreigner. I appreciate it!
@Shimohira Reika do you even know how sea borders work?
@Shimohira Reika damm! A wild chinese supporter have appear
@Shimohira Reika hey, return your mom's phone to her. Stop commenting nonsense. An educated men wouldn't say that Vietnam is a tribe of China, or even worse-Vietnam dont have territory on South China Sea:)
@Shimohira Reika Ah yes, a true patriot of China, I guess you also think the Mongols failed in Vietnam 3 times was just due to "bad weather" and we didn't beat France or the US, they just "left" because there are no "natural resources".
@Shimohira Reika About territory in South China Sea, Vietnam territory was confirm by the world and have a transparency national sovereignty not the same as "China The Pirate". Last words: DO NOT SAY ANYTHING WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE! GO TO YOU RE MOM AND RETURN THE PHONE. READ SOME BOOKS FROM DIFFERENT SOURCES ABOUT HISTORY AND POLITIC BEFORE SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THEY!!!
As a Filipino, I'll give you an insight on how we think, and as well as my opinion, around the issue. As far as I can see it, everyone is willing to share the area except for China. The country's claim over seas that is far beyond reach from their mainland seems absurd enough but the fleets, threats from ships, and constant experimentation near PAR (ph area of responsibility) add more stress. Local fishermen are being shot at by these commercial boats. I think that support and alliance from all the countries involved may help ease out and provide equal leverage for the benefit of all.
And the fact that they stole some fish in the Philippines which is I think illegal?
Firstly thank you for your opinion as a Filipino that is helpful understanding the problem of the South China Sea. And I agree with you we should share the resources in the South China Sea. and the government of China recent years is searching a method to deal with it. But here I want to do a little defense for my country( the part that china don’t want to share share). As we all know that « commandor reef « is now under control of your country, if oil or gas are found under the sea around it would you give permission for the other countries like China, Vietnam or even Japan to drill? I don’t think so. Because it is your stuff. You won’t share you stuff when some just simply ask you to. Don’t mention if you are forced to.
Ridiculous, that's like saying USA can't "claim" Hawaii since "it's so far from the mainland", or UK can't claim Falklands 😆
@@noelzhang340 totally agree. i'm not even going to defend my country on that one. it's just that we all know that this is far beyond china's nautical lines
@@EroticOnion23 hawaii is already an established community/civilization once yhe americans arrived. now that hawaiian islands are part of the us, of course it would be safe to assume that the surrounding waters will also be theirs. that's exactly where the problems comes in. there are little to no 'civilized' islands by the south china sea. china is creating islands there themselves. there's actually a satellite image on google maps if you want to check out, though i know that thwy are not up to size but you can really see the sheer quantity of their project.
很中立的视频，谢谢你让我从不同的角度思考南海问题
"Dignity is only at the edge of the sword, and truth is only within cannon range." That's what I've learned from world politics.
Great work friend, your work is seen in the professionality of your videos
Hi love your videos
@@PakBallandSami Thank you
Woefully incomplete.
Excellent interpolation mate.
Keep up the good work
Interpolation nice
Haven't heard that word in awhile. Nice.
Nama cantik
This was really informative, thank you! Looking for a neutral overview / background primer. I can usually trust poland ball to have that.
The illustration is so cute >.
I wish ASEAN was more united, but alas, we can't even agree on how to deal with Myanmar.
heck even we have an overlap claim on south china sea dispute
even asean member itself fight for their parts
@@fireblast3339 There is one factor that could solves this disputed sea and united the asian countrys is that China threaten to claim all of it.
The oldest trick in the book.
@@user-gc1hg9sp9k We dont even have to touch the sea issue. The philippines have beef with malaysia over sabah ffs
@@zebimicio5204 To be fair that seems to be the current government's fight, most of our administrations are mostly just quiet on the issue, although mostly for self-determination, which neither claims nor denounces ownership of territory.
My humble opinion as a Malaysian, having disputes is normal growing pains of any country, sending "coast guard" ships to harass civilian ship traffic, fisherman and oil platforms 50 nautical miles from land of other countries is just being a bully.
As someone who doesn't live there. I'm sorry you guys have to deal with this. It's only going to escalate as China grows in power.
@@SuperCatacata Definitely, and it'll escalate even more as China eventually starts losing that power. For the next few decades they'll overcome the US and become the biggest economy, but they won't be able to maintain it throughout the rest of the century. As China starts declining in power we may see something similar to Putin invading Ukraine, because Putin knows full well that Russia is rapidly declining and if he's ever gonna invade then the time is now.
@@lucasharvey8990 That's what I think as well. However, I don't believe the communist party will be in power in China for long certainly not the next 50 years. It's much more likely that the party will fall and whatever comes government next will likely be more competent, aggressive, and nationalist than the CCP. This is when real US China competition will begin.
@@daxtynminn3415 That's a good point.
I'm undecided on what their government will look like in the future, because we are living in extraordinary times and every decade it gets harder to predict what will happen in the next decade. I think the future Chinese government - whatever it is - will learn to be diplomatic in world politics. The thing is, even if China can compete with the US, it doesn't even come close to USA + Canada + Latin American allies + NATO, European Union, and other structures that tie Europe and North America together + India + Australia + Japan and so on. All China has is North Korea; even Vietnam likes the US more than they do China, and that's despite both of those countries being communist. What's happening to the Russian economy right now is a good warning sign for the CCP to stop acting like a bully, because countries that act like bullies have a harder time on the world stage.
I think that is the main thing to keep in mind, because once China starts playing the diplomatic game, they'll start building alliances. And when China has allies on their side, that's when they'll ACTUALLY start contesting the current world order.
@@lucasharvey8990 Yea I agree almost completely the Chinese, well at least the CCP are not to so good with diplomacy or soft power. I'm not exactly sure what government will come next either. I just think the communist party has proven to be a joke at this point and they are so hated that they drive pretty much every country into the US's arms. The longer these guys are in power the better it is for the USA from a geopolitics standpoint.
视频做的很客观~~谢谢！
Something that needs to be mentioned is that in the 30s while KMT was drawing the 9 dash line, Vietnam, Malaysia and Philippines didn't exist. It was France, Portugal and USA.
Clean, Informative, and trusted
thanks for the content
thanks a lot
Ayy nice! Thought you might cover this after your previous vids regarding territorial disputes. Considering the quality of your previous vids I will enjoy this thoroughly. Keep up the great work
I am from Iraq and I say China is different from all countries in the world
Because you cannot hold an electrical device unless you find it made in China
And I love Xiaomi and Huawei 😌
The Nine dash line was initially suggested and supported by the USA after the ww2, however back then, POC was alliance with USA, but got overthought by the PRC which is now the enemy of USA, PRC was poor and weak in the past 70 years, could not defend those islands in the nine dash line, and some of these were taken by the nearby countries, PRC is strong now and trying to defend/take back those resources.
@@williamwallace2386 if you don't know history, don't write nonsense, don't call others BS.
@@williamwallace2386 yeah it wasn't nine dash line because it was eleven dash.
I don't know if you are qualified to discuss anything modern as your brain seems to still stay in the monkey time.
@@williamwallace2386 你应该是反华殖人的言论
You really think china is strong now? LOL
@@williamwallace2386 China belongs to Mongolia? You know history
Thanks for your excellence work, appreciate it from Malaysia. 🙏
This video is very informative, no political biasis, just comprehensive historical context and objective analysis.
No it definitely has a political bias. It very clearly favors the reality pushed by the CCP While not very clearly recognizing the reality puthe reality pushed by Taiwan and its allies. This is a better form of propaganda than what you would actually think they're trying to convince people of a smaller idea so that they can go against them of a bigger idea later. If you don't believe me check out his other videos that are dead on the nose propaganda.
wth? there are political biases right there in the video!
@@zsuperb1z Amanda skymakes a lot of Chinese propaganda If you check out his older stuff you'll find a lot more bias but more bias hes just making it is better propaganda
@@spencerrodden2669 would be a better argument to give where his bias lies, sources to counterpoint what he said, or rational explanations of why they are propaganda, and even then, why those propaganda are false, or what part of those propaganda are false or twisted to suit those spreading it. Telling people to check it out won't work because people have their own biases, and what you see may not be readily seen by others. Then again this is TH-cam, not a formal discussion lmfao.
@@neinty-neinmonika2861 good job China bot. Your broken English kind of gives you away and your a little to Eager to refute what I say to be anything other than a 50 cent army troll.
I read an article this morning that said that Vietnam had banned the “Barbie” movie because the movie has a map in it that contains The 9 dash line. I had no clue what it was an I’d never heard of it. That’s what brought me here. Interesting……
Việt Nam là quốc gia nhỏ bé nhưng không sợ Trung Quốc. Lịch sử mấy nghìn năm đã chứng minh điều đó 🇻🇳
Hoàng sa Trường sa là của Việt Nam 🇻🇳
😂为什么以前用汉字呢
不要威胁我们，不然你们男女比例会回到1991年
Nice to see that you’ve released a new video keep up the good work.
Great video. You touches ln many of the important geopolitical things going on in that region
Thanks for becoming my first channel member!
@@PoliticswithPaint thanks, I didn't realize I was the first. When did you start membership for your channel.
@@PoliticswithPaint you should do a geopolitical video on the history of the Ottoman Empire to start and then going into Turkeys future potential for Eastern Mediterranean dominance. But also add in Turkeys rising tensions with its neighbour's Russia, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Greece and Egypt. Also another idea Is talking about a what a rising powerful India would be, and the competition and present/future geopolitical struggles with PRC and Pakistan. Also the rise of the Quad, and how that geopolitical organization is going to play out. I'm 33 and Canadian btw. I like your content and always glad to see your content. And if you ever do a Canadian type video, then that's a bonus 😉lol.
@@Hamsteak Thanks for the suggestions! I definitely plan to talk more about Turkey and India. I've also got a few topic ideas regarding Canada!
@@PoliticswithPaint sorry for the late reply, but that would be awesome. So many different topics per each subject. Looking forward to the future of your channel 👍
thank you for this informative video
Great work, very clear.
TBH, I wasn't expecting much, but came out incredibly surprised how well done this was. Thank you!
Asian countries: we need to work together!
America: let me introduce myself
Sometimes you need a big bully in order to fight another big bully.
@@samuelhan2746 至少不會強佔 說自古以來啥的屁話了
@@samuelhan2746 阿拉斯加
That's what you took from this video, seriously?
Asian countries: we need to work together!
China: you is all barbarians and I own all of you.
Seriously, jokes aside, if China didn't believe they were the oldest and greatest civilisation in the world and that all of Asia, or at least the parts that look Asian) should belong to them we wouldn't have so many problems. Especially if Europeans and Americans realised this too.
Indian air force have been doing exercises with Malaysian air force lately, it's good that other nations are helping Malaysia in it's aging fleet
感谢你的详细介绍
Thanks for the detailed introduction
Love this and the other videos in the series! ❤️
Comes in handy for me. It's one of the subjects I have to study for the state exam in order to become a teacher here in France. It's at the end of the month. Thanks man!
Well you had the 1st real comment in his comment section the rest seemed to just be bots. Who gets over 50 likes and not a single comment
I from Vietnam
yeah but Spratly and Paracel Islands belong to VIetnam. In Diary on Amphitrite (1701) said "Paracels is a part of Annam",“Le Mémoire sur la Cochinchine” of Jean Baptiste Chaigneau (1769 - 1825) also said it, Univers, histoire et description de tous les peuples, de leurs religions, moeurs et coutumes” of Priest Taberd said the same.The French owned it when Vietnam was a French Colony. Remember the Geneva Treaty about Korean Peninsula and Indochina.
it is fake, dont belive in these propaganda, the whole sea is 100% serbian.
But there are a lot of little mistakes in this video, you better do some more research on your own
This is the reason why the SCS is so complicated. All of the claims of the disputing countries are legally and technically valid.
except for china lol :V
the claim from han dynasty that china there was china now, is also like mongolian claim all china :D
not true at all. the classic rule of a valid modern territory claim has only 2 requirements: 1. it has to be presented by a modern country (ancient historical ownership doesn't count) 2. at the time of the claim declaration there's no objection by other MODERN SOVEREIGN countries. so basically you have to make a claim as early as possible before anyone else and with no objections from other countries at THAT TIME to be considered as a valid territorial claim. well, ALL THE other claimants than china, were not even sovereign countries at the time china made the claim, AND the colonial masters of those claimants actually made no objections at the time. now you tell me which claim is by definition legitimate? lol
@@LongHoang-wx9zu you have no idea what u are talking about. lol historical ownership or activities are not required conditions to sustain a valid claim, but can certainly make a valid claim reasonable.
@@LongHoang-wx9zu The 9 dash line predates the existence of the independent SEA nations.
so u heard that from your goverment right @@henrywang3403
中肯，简洁明了，这是一个很棒的视频
People tend to associate SEA with the Balkans, and given our circumstance and how WW1 started on eastern europe..I'm very much anxious about this
Soo Malaysia and Indonesia will become the Siberia and Albania? We have a history of doing that.
@@aprettysimplebeing1828 Siberia? Do you mean Serbia?
@@burakaskan9483 oops sorry
@@aprettysimplebeing1828 not really, while Serbia and Albania is really in hatred relationship meanwhile us Indonesia and Malaysia is more like Love-Hate relationship, but I think more love for the last decade for our economic co-operation
@@arcturus9276 Kitorang curik korang punya tradisi 😶
I love the artistic dragon design of the 9 dash line :3
The South China Sea as it called solely surrounded by China and ASEAN countries, the ambition of the US, Japan and India is far stretched to increase tension in the region.
Not quite each have different goals for the region.
Japans goal relates to WW2. You see after the war China claimed Japanese islands which where not even mentioned in the peace treaty.
Japan views Chinas 9 dash line as unjustified Chinese expansionism as China had claimed Japanese lands and waters in the same exact manner.
Indias goals is more simple, you see India and China have a land border dispute. The dispute is along the edges of where Tibet is, Indias goal is to keep Chinese troops away from Tibet and on other fronts less important to India.
U.S. goals are the most straight forward, simply put they want the ability to cut China from world trade at any time necessary.
To do this the U.S. needs help from local countries with ports big enough to resupply ships, and enough territorial integrity to deny Chinese demands.
This is why the U.S. does what it does in the region.
Put more simply, Indias involved to keep tensions on the tibeten border low, Japans involved because China in a similar fashion claimed Japanese islands, and the U.S. is involved because they want to police any potential conflict started by China, ensuring any wars China starts will hurt China itself.
@@darth3911 You need to stop commenting on the internet if you have zero brain cell or if you don't like reading history books. China claimed Japanese Islands are far fetched of this idiocracy.
This video is from 1 year ago, but as of now, it his highly relevant. It is the powder keg of the future, and the fuse already has been lit, but the question is how long the fuse is before it all blows up
In fact, the Republic of China (ROC, "Taiwan") claims eleven-dash line. It's even larger than the PRC. This worth a mention.
等中国收复台湾后，就可以继续宣称蒙古和十一段线领土
I thought it was ten, but I knew they had more dashes. I think they forgot, that ROC negotiated for those islands during ww2, after Japan fell, but heck China was suppose to control North Vietname as well.
@@slewone4905 it doesn’t matter given the PRC signed up and ratified UNCLOS in 1996 which supersedes any ‘historical claims’ including the 9 dash line.
ROC draw eleven-dash line under the US support in 1947, one of the ship they used was owned by the USA, this also need to be mentioned. PRC replaced ROC in 1949, but ROC partly moved to Taiwan, which is also belongs to China. Both ROC and PRC have constitutional law says that Taiwan and mainland China is One Country.
@@artnull13 Maybe you don't know the UNCLOS respects this kind of history claims, which called historic title.
beautifully made and explained, keep up the quality content!
I come from thailand I love japan vitenam Philippines india usa taiwan. we are friends
中國擁有南海的時候 南海周圍住著猴子和未開化的人只能在河裡捕魚…
你可以想象一下
thank you for going over this topic in a neutral tone and not taking sides, I can already see how it's gonna sound if western media is to report on this issue. And I'm very surprised to see US has undergone similar path in the Caribbean
As a student in Vietnam, i knoe that in school they teach us that all of the island belong to Vietnam💀💀💀
Nicely done, like the simple art style by the way
As an Indonesian, watching the shenanigans that arose from this clusterfuck of an ocean is entertainment at it's finest
we in too my bro natuna exists 💀💀
Clean and neutral. Thanks for your work. Just one question, why is this area called the South "China" Sea, and was commonly admitted by the international society, if there are so many conflicts among those countries surrounding it?
That’s a piece of evidence supporting China’s claim.
Oh i actually have an answer for this, apparently it was named after the biggest land that was near the area, so basically China is the biggest land in the area no doubt, and named it "South China Sea" and was named by the West, in Vietnamese it's called "Biển Đông" which is "East Sea" so yea
When the Chinese were fishing in the South China Sea, these small countries around them were basically primitive people, and they still picked wild fruits from the trees as a source of food. This is not to demean them but is based on historical facts.
The name "South China Sea" has been used continuously from ancient times to the present day. It has never been changed. In fact, during the Qing Dynasty, China did assert its sovereignty over these waters. However, China has undergone changes in its government, and the current dispute revolves around whether a country that has undergone a change in government can inherit all the jurisdictional areas claimed by the previous government. China maintains that it should inherit all the maritime regions claimed by the previous government, while neighboring countries argue for a division of these areas. This dispute stems from the fact that the Qing Dynasty, and not the People's Republic of China, once controlled these territories.
Bit of a strange way of claiming it because it's named after it and countries just adopted it? It would be like Ireland claiming the Irish sea because of a name or India claiming the Indian ocean
As a vietnamese, this is tastefully done explaination, no bias nor prejudice.
@@user-uf1tu6ce8c smartest NA (or EU) citizen
Clear and neutral. Just add two more interesting facts: the US supported China's claim of 11 dashed line after WW2 (1946~1947) when the ROC was still ruling China. After PRC won the civil war, it gave up part of ROC's claim to Vietnam and changed it to 9 dashed line.
Cả mỹ và Trung Quốc đều tham lam như nhau . những gì Trung Quốc làm bây giờ chính là học hỏi từ tham vọng bành trướng của người mỹ
good
That's because the ROC was on US side. US was also helped the PRC to gained an independence country from Taiwan in 1972 illegally without Taiwan consent while Taiwan (ROC) was still recognized by the United Nations as the sole legitimate government of both countries in 1979 US officially recognized the PRC as sole legitimate government of China since then the PRC have been using an illegal agreement to justified their claimed over Taiwan as part of China that's how the One China came about.
The PRC doesn't have any legitimated claimed the entire South China Sea either hence it's only became a country in 1979 whereas Taiwan, Vietnam, Cambodia, Indonesia and Philippines became countries centuries ago 🤣
@@oneviwatara9384 Either ROC or PRC is just the government. A change of government does not change the sovereign. PRC got the seat in UN supported by the majority of 3rd world countries, which had nothing to do with US. US did not support that.
@@zhichaozhang9330
LoL only the US aka the global superpower has the authority in United Nations to recognized any legitimated government around the world without it there wouldn't a country called China as we know it.
9:12 I think you have some mistakes here. It should be Cambodia, Thailand and Myanmar since Laos is always the first one that actively supporting Vietnam's opinion in every ASEAN Summit while Cambodia is the one that has been supporting China ever since 1997 ( China has been supporting Cambodia economically and militaristically) , Myanmar has also been slowly drifting towards China ever since Aung San Suu Kyi got into power and Thailand is getting the same treatment like Cambodia.
I thought Thailand was more on the neutral side?
@@IDK-fv3hu well when Prayut seized power, Thailand started drifting slowly towards China ( although Prayut himself with his government is trying to keep Thailand neutral but I still doubt about it when most Thai's people really don't like the man and the monarchy). For more information about why Thailand drifting towards China, you can search about bilateral trade and military relations between China-Thailand ( you will understand why they might become the second Cambodia if they can't keep their long-term neutrality ).
@Underpaid T-72 mechanic learn more about Burmese politics lad. You will find out Aung San Su Kyi had no true power other than tons of supports from citizens.
@Underpaid T-72 mechanic you would be even more surprise to know that the Rohingya genocide is some sort related to her
Why would Cambodia support China after China backed the Khmer Rouge
非常中立，必须给你点赞🎉
Finally an informative video that puts facts in front and skips the non-sense politics/partisanship. 99.99% of the debates out there are focused on the non-sense of who is right and who is wrong, when you think about islands in general, unless a population lives there (which these islands don't have), how can there really be any valid argument? All the parties in these disputes have NO RIGHT, period.
It's always about who has the bigger gun or more power to influence the result... just like the Caribbean
对的，真理只在大炮射程之内
Actually, there are people living there: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thitu_Island
@@gcf123t a population not people, Vietnam would have more people living on these islands than any other countries in this region, especially with its 21 controlled islands but that doesn't count as a population. When push come to shoves, it's only about who is stronger in this region
@@minhvu7256 I don't think the poster I was responding too was making that distinction. Furthermore, I don't think there is any basis in law for the distinction you're trying to make just now. While philosophically I do agree with your point in general (i.e. that ultimately it is strength and not laws that decide outcomes in international affairs), it is a also a fact that China is violating international law in general and UNCLOS in particular with its actions and so in that sense China is wrong.
@@gcf123tFunny, it's like the United States owns Hawaii, which was recognized at the end of World War II. At the end of World War II, everyone recognized that the South China Sea belonged to China, but later independent countries said it was unfair, just like Cuba. Why does the United States own the islands on its doorstep? Isn't it funny? Classic double standard😂
The sea’s major feature is a deep rhombus-shaped basin in the eastern part, with reef-studded shoals rising up steeply within the basin to the south (Reed and Tizard banks and the Nanshan Island area) and northwest (Paracel Islands and Macclesfield banks). The deep portion, called the China Sea Basin, has a maximum depth of 16,457 feet (5,016 metres) and an abyssal plain with a mean depth of some 14,100 feet (4,300 metres). Houseboats in the Gulf of Tonkin at Ha Long Bay, northern Vietnam, a UNESCO World Heritage site.
@@user-ed2zd6br1m This is completely false. Firstly, China invaded and occupied on our land for over 1000 years, only until the 10th century your country stopped invading. Next, China's greed on the "small islands" only started at around the 20th century, which was when Vietnam was still fighting against France and America to protect our own land. China took the chance and tried to invade our islands in 1959, which failed however, but the spies and soldiers got returned to their home country, unlike how your soldiers brutally killed our defenders later in 1971. China only recently created the "nine-dash line" in hope to take over the entire sea region. Thirdly, we never wanted, and will never invade others, because Vietnam wants to be friend and cooperate with every other countries on the world, or simply because we only fight back when we're invaded, like back then when China did to us. And finally, shouldn't we be the one to not let you invade other countries? Because China is one of the most powerful country in the world currently.
Is this enough to fight with your statement yet?
@@user-ed2zd6br1m Invasions and conflicts in the past are inevitable. After a couple researches, Vietnam did invade Laos, Cambodia and Thailand in different ways. Firstly, our country attacked Laos during the 15th century, killing 200000 people, yes that's indeed a lot. About Cambodia, Viet soldiers stopped the Khmer rogue in their country. Their leader, Pol Pot, was a mass murderer, who killed thousands of innocents in our country. The Khmer rouge later moved into Thailand, which was the reason for the invasion in Thailand. It was not until 1989 when the Viet soldiers retreated, the relationship between both countries returned normal. During the 20th century, Vietnam started a new relationship with Laos. Both countries aided each others during the next years, helping in different aspects.
Now back to China. During the Song Dynasty, China was planning to invade Vietnam, so they were rallying troops and preparing supplies at a small city near the border. We Vietnam had no other choice, but to stop the plan from succeeding, and took down the place. After that, we didn't took the city or anything, just simply retreated just as if the threat is stopped.
These may not be recorded in our history books, or I haven't learnt all of them since I'm still a student, but I'm sure that even if countries invaded each others in the past, they're trying to make peace for a better world. Vietnam, Cambodia, Thailand and Laos are close friends now, and our country even make friend with your country China, who invaded us for 1000 years consecutively.
I don't know about historical records in your museum, and I haven't got the time and money to even visit our own national museum to check the records myself. But if I had, I would check them out when the pandemic ends.
I don't want to bring up this topic anymore, nor causing any drama on social medias. Peace.
@@user-ed2zd6br1m China history is full of lies and cover up. "1989 Tiananmen Square Protests and Massacres" is one of those, now the Chinese are banned from talking about it. And that just 33 years ago, let's not talk about anything like 1,000 years ago.
@@user-ed2zd6br1m Oh yeah, then please tell me what happen in Tiananmen square. I'd like to know your history version.
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And on China help Vietnam tries to repay every day and don't worry China deserves every payback.
@@user-ed2zd6br1m Vietnam was not necessarily a vassal. It was an independent nation who were traditionally enemies of the chinese because of multiple invasion attempts. If you look at Ukraine right now, you think similar to how Putin thinks, that if a country has a shared history in the past that they can deny the sovereignty of a nation. Also, during the first and second indochina wars, Vietnam’s closest ally was the soviet union, not China. EVERY country has had gruesome history that many regret now, unlike China and their modern genocides.
Great vid, keep it up!!
The video is very well done, thank you for your efforts. As a Chinese, I think you have explained the dispute thoroughly and without prejudice. This video should be seen by more people.
U took our islands :(
@@Pancadebruh
as nmd Chinese
@@Pancade why south China sea called south 「China」sea
这么充满偏见吹他们的美爹，还护着呢😂
很客观，虽然才看到但是大致说清楚了
This video is very objective, thanks from Vietnam 🇻🇳
Thank you for explaining this situation so thoroughly. Love from Vietnam
Toyota South Miami for a bit but my mom
Loved the similarity drawn between China's situation and the US's former situation!
Maybe explain the history of the "nine-dash line"?
China: Dammit! Why are you here!? You literally live on the other side of the world!
USA: I like it here.
U.S.A : ' i like taiwan's noodles
USA: I like oil oil oil
Just by you giving Vietnam a straw hat is enough for me to like this video. XD
America: we have a free of navigation
Cuba: okay me too
America: dont move
Freedom of navigation not freedom to make fake islands
One of the very rare videos that describing the situation without a too obvious anti-China tone.
do you know Taiwan still claims 11dashline since 1946 and West Soviet both supported it?
I mean, taiwan is still considered part of china anyway.
That’s interesting to know, and as a country we do have one island over there. But it’s mainly between the CCP and ASEAN nations since its gonna directly affect their security and economic seas.
@@zebimicio5204 Taiwan is the original China
Taiwan and China are the same. They're greedy
Taiwan and China are essentially then same, just different ideologies.
Nice art, good job explaining
What a fascinating explanation
Paracel Island and Spratly Island is Vietnam .
nonsense it belongs to the philippine, why do you claim such territory when its so far away from your coast line?
I love how the South China Sea is shared between Malaysia, Brunei, Philippines and Vietnam. They say "ok here's mine and here's yours. we cool"
And China literally just *its real free estate*
Other countries: its OUR sea
China: No, this is mine now.
So much for being a communist country..lmao
@@cedyanlee666 yeah they suppose to divide the sea equally, like what communist should do.
i feel betrayed.
@@cedyanlee666 share for thee not for me!
Once Vietnam is threatening the security of other South East Asia countries. Not because wary of China, Vietnam might have their way in. Vietnam wants to claim all of SCS if they can.
The smaller countries in this region should take note on what's happening in the current ukraine and russian war. Big countries won't always help you, despite promises.
The US and Philippines has mutual defense treaty unlike Ukraine though. The only thing im not sure about is if US would really defend Philippines.
@@pattrickmerete
US not defending the Philippines despite having a defense treaty is effectively political suicide tho. Unless Czechoslovakia 2.0 happens to the Philippines, but that's another kind of political suicide so ehhh....
Unlike Ukraine, the SEA countries actually have a military treaties called ASEAN and Commonwealth. If China attack one, all of them will retaliates. Not to mention they also in the Commonwealth which will make UK and Australia directly involved if they got attacked.
@@pattrickmerete Philippines are asking for trouble in this way. We don't see Philippines as enemies, but if you guys work with US. We'll have to treat you as one of the targets.
很客观，辛苦了❤❤
Have you ever looked back at the history of each province in China?
15:40, is Austria-Hungary holding the rifle wrong and Germany’s eye twitch is amazing attention to detail
A very very well made video. Not only is it informative and correct in a high degree, it also presents in a non-biased manner. Great work!
Yes
agree (from a fellow Vietnamese viewer)
not matual
China has always advocated shelving disputes and jointly resolving the issue of sovereignty in the South China Sea. The division of Eurasia by the United States will once again impoverish Asia. Does Vietnam still want the United States to harvest Southeast Asia with green paper at a cost of 7 cents?
@@user-fm8vp3ui8b I guess you're a mainland Chinese citizen. Your point of view is that China is good, USA is bad. Well let me tell you, it's not simple like that.
Take a look at the following list:
- Sino-Indian War 1962
- Sino-Soviet border conflict 1969;
- Sino-Vietnamese War 1979;
- Sino-Vietnamese Conflicts 1979-1991;
- China-India skirmishes 2020-2021;
- Current territorial disputes with: India, Japan, Taiwan, Vietnam & South East Asia
What were you saying about China "shelving disputes and jointly resolving the issue of sovereignty" again?
"Does Vietnam still want the United States to harvest Southeast Asia with green paper at a cost of 7 cents?"
=> Does Vietnam still wants China to gradually eat more islands and water to the point no fishing boats can operate, to the point all sea resources are sucked dry???
It does not matter if it is China or USA. They are both the same. They are bullies who compete with each other and don't give a cent about what small countries like Vietnam think. So no thanks, Vietnam DOES NOT need your ill advices.
Thanks for the information good news god bless
很好的视频，谢谢中文字幕
😡😡😡👎👎👎 China
AMERIKA NATO 🇺🇸 💪💪💪
i love the artwork and explaination - neutral non bias. keep it up
My god, imagine one day interstellar travel becomes possible, I don't know how terrible the territorial conflicts would rise.
我认为领土争端会消失，因为所有国家都会争着去占领其他星球，把眼光放在地球的话，看起来很可笑。
It's already going on, China find water sign from the Moon trip, bring back rocks.
Who establish the first moon base will have claim to that resource.
US is restarting its Moon project~
as a Filipino, we call the SCS the WEST PHILIPPINE SEA (WPS)
Everyone in the world: South China sea
Only Philippines: West Philippines sea😂😂😂😂
@@yyc3841chinese wumao 😂😂😂
@@King-ur7ev cry more poor country Philippines
The 9 U-shaped lines are Chinese's thesis, we are Southeast Asian countries and we disagreed with that. Ocean resources are common, not 1 country-owned. It is desirable that the author of the video can avoid carrying unverified and controversial information. Thanks for listening.
The video omits the current situation of the Spratly islands: Viet Nam took 30 reefs. The Philippines took 7 reefs. China took 7 reefs.
Not only that, Vietnam had extracted billions of dollars of oil and gas, but none by China. So much for being neutral.
I agree with you. The video omitted relevant information. The occupied reefs are all white elephants now, whatever the nationality owns them. Without the CCP China 9-dash line maritime claim, EEZ's have been neatly delineated among the South China Sea coastal states, including mainland China and Taiwan.
@@francissantos7448 China's 9-dash line is historical claims and rights consistently claimed by the previous Chinese government and the PRC. They precede and are not in conflict with international sea laws. EEZ can overlap and it is for related countries to negotiate the code of conduct in case of that. Taiwan is a rebel province of China that transferred all of China's gold reserves there in 1949 and China is carrying out patrols and exercises around it almost every day before incoming territorial unification.
@@xz6107 thank you for perspective X. CCP 9-dash line is circa 1947. Philippines documentary evidence of Spratlys and Scarborough shoal as Filipono territory is a 1734 Spanish map. This territorial claim is signed by the US in 1901 Treaty of Washington. This was one of the legal arguments at the Hague Tribunal ruling of 2016. The US has independently determined that CCP China and Taiwan claims of "ownership" of the South China Sea has no basis in international law January 2022.
@@francissantos7448 The US as a naval hegemony never participated in the international sea law convention. When China approved the international sea law convention, China had a special pre-condition that China doesn't accept any arbitration or court ruling and only agrees to negotiate with related countries. The 9-dash claim was already there before CCP took power and the government cannot back from it or it will be spat on the face by 1.4 billion people. But when countries have conflicting claims, negotiation is the way to solve them.
Love from VietNam for all the effort and researches you've made, well done!
Hoàng Sa, Trường Sa là của Việt Nam.
Chinese shall not interfere. Even when they did, we're protected by the laws.
Fights can begin anywhere on the sea. We do not stand half a chance before them without the global's help...
Thank you, for making this video, widening people's knowledge to this small place
love form jupiter 🙊
love from mars
love from jungle yall
Yes
bru..if they were so concerned about laws and stuff they should've thrown out that nine dash line nonsense..
Everytime there is a territorial dispute that involve PRC China, ROC China is always strangely quiet and not shouting for independence...I wonder why.
of course, since 11 dash line south tibet and mongolia all belong to republic of china
interesting and neutral,a nice video🎉
It is Cambodia not lao.
you are mistaking about that , but you do quite a good job about explain it.
You didn't mention The Hague 'victory' of the Philippines' claim. Although, it's still useless as it seems
Of course it is useless. I mean what do you expect from china's lapdog in malacañang.
The arbitral ruling is useless because it has no bearing with China, they didn't even attend. It's not about being a "lapdog".
Remember when the previous admin sent an envoy for talks with Scarborough Shoal, when the envoy returned, the Shoal was already occupied by China.
@@impreza0109 thats not how international law works. even they ddnt attend. they are assignatory to UNCLOS wich submit them under the jurisdiction so shutap maderpaker. international law expertt
@@nanodesu9031 @Nayre We don't stand a chance against China's military power, even if we won by a law do you think a most powerful nation would just agree with it. Thankfully to the "China's lapdog" the war is prevented by trying to have a peace talk
China is a shameless nation, it's plain looking at the map that it's silly. It is a big country and it is bullying other small countries, refusing to abide by the international law they have signed up to before. Justice will win
Chỉ mong trái đất này luôn hoà bình , con người được sống hạnh phúc, mong chính phủ Mỹ không còn mang chiến tranh đi khắp thế giới, “Biển Đông dậy sóng” cũng là do Mỹ
No no
Phải là 3 anh lớn Nga .trung quốc .Mỹ ko bành trướng thôi.
Claiming to own a region is easy, but actually controlling it is more important. In the face of America’s mighty military prowess, the United Nations is essentially powerless. This tells us a truth: whoever has more warships holds the power of speech.
If just staring to the map itself, the Philippines is the closest to the Spartly's, and Vietnam really owned so much of the islands! What a little China of SEA.
shut up stupidDUDE
China and more than 168 member states of the United Nations have publicly signed the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) adopted in 1982, also called the Law of the Sea Convention, or the Law of the Sea Treaty, which affirms Vietnam's sovereignty over the Paracel and Spratly archipelagoes. Here is the original document of 1982 UNCLOS --- The United Nations [UN] reiterates Vietnam’s sovereignty over Paracel and Spratly archipelagoes. The National Assembly reaffirms the sovereignty of the Socialist Republic of Viet Nam over its internal waters and territorial sea; the sovereign rights and jurisdiction in the contiguous zone, the exclusive economic zone and the continental shelf of Viet Nam, based on the provisions of the Convention and principles of international law; and calls on other countries to respect the above-said rights of Viet Nam. The National Assembly [authorizes] the National Assembly's Standing Committee and the Government to review all relevant national legislation to consider necessary amendments in conformity with the 1982 United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea [UNCLOS], and to safeguard the interests of Viet Nam. (un.org)
The 11th dash Line was drawn by the US and the Republic of China government in 1945. At that time there was no independent country in Southeast Asia except Thailand. Now the People's Republic of China claims the nine-dash line, while the Roc government in Taiwan still claims the 11-dash line.
VIỆT NAM có bằng trứng lịch sử sở hữu 2 quần đảo trước năm 1945 nhiều
@@caothangnguyen8653 越南北部还是明朝领土呢，别跳的太高，你们这个政权曾经都是靠着中国支撑生存下来的。
@@user-rl2wv4hl4y oh big ambition, so do you have a plan for which country you want to invade and say it depends on you next ? Hong Kong right ?
No independent countries existed in 1945 didn't mean the previous colonial countries didn't existed. Paracel Island have been a part of Vietnam since 15th century while until Qing dynasty China have never claim it but suddenly China enlisted the chaotic of Vietnam War to invade those islands, that's so untrustworthy
@@user-rl2wv4hl4y For 20 years only lmao, don't be delusional
At that time, Chiang Kai-shek and the People's Liberation Army also sent naval troops to fight the Vietnamese at the same time
Because we are all Chinese
@@weiyao9235ngu
Vietnam: this small pert of the sea is mine
Malaysia: no it's mine
Brunei: no it's mine
Philippines: you all are wrong it's mine
China: i own all of it
Everyone: what?
China: I OWN ALL OF IT
Taiwan: i hate you but i agree
USA: this look like a job for me
Aut*stic Screaming*
Ah, the country of Vitamin
@@TrafficPartyHatTest sorry for the misspelling
不是全部，但大部分是有了。
Taiwan (ROC) : I hate you but i agree (plus 2 more dashes)
Vietnan claim also absurd
Great Video with unbiased view!
I got an idea, China signs treaties with all the sea countries and withdraws from the area on the condition that these sea countries must sink all us navy ships that pass through the area.
if they sink a US ship they would be indirectly declaring war on the USA
@@pspsppsps8660 who knows who sunk the US ships, what if a whale crashed onto the ship and sunk it, or a large wave capsizes the US ship? Is the US going to declare war on the sea?
@@1mol831... you want those countries to ship all us navy ships entering those waters, if 1 or 2 ships capsize which is very unlikely the US will still investigate it but since you're telling them to go sink all US navy ships i think the USA will start to get suspicious why ever Ship they send to the south china sea is sunk also on this day and age military technology it's super easy to pin point which ship fires on which and another flaw with your idea is that US navy ships are already incredibly hard to sink in the first place
@@1mol831 also they would have to declare that they're gonna start sinking US ships that crossed into those waters first anyways
不得不说，讲的挺好，让我也对南海有了更多的认识
Thank you for finally mention it im an filipino😊😊
Thanks for interesting video. But I think we should mention RUSSIA to the list of external actors. It involves to SCS as a balancer between China and Vietnam, and as a partner of China to counter the USA. Russia's economic interests in SCS should be considered because it has many joint oil companies with Vietnam and Indonesia, more than India.
Moreover, the most ally of China among ASEAN members is Cambodia. This country has prevented ASEAN unification for every anti-China resolution.
ASEAN relationship with China(official+public) :
Very positive:
1. Cambodia
2. Myanmar
Positive:
1. Thailand
2. Laos
Neutral, positive leaning:
1. Singapore
Neutral:
1. Brunei
2. East Timor
Neutral, negative leaning:
1. Malaysia
2. Indonesia
Negative:
1. Vietnam
Very negative:
1. Philippines
@@henrywang3403 i think my countru, vietnam should be neutral, negative leaning because except from the sea dispute our relationship is pretty good.
@@quynhanhcao9629 True. Our targets are taiwan and Japan.
@@henrywang3403 can you give me a source. Instead, just getting this out of your ass.
@@quynhanhcao9629 that bullshit
as a oversea Chinese i think this video is clear and neutral, i agree with most of your views, like❤
It is a very complicated question!
The China south sea also involved Taiwan issues!
很客观中立的角度分析。谢谢~❤
Must be really fun to make the ball reactions... :)