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I played the game once on my own personal iPad and i chose thailand and vietnam was attacking me during the game. I did not start the war and another player attacked someone who was once previously playing Thailand. Not to mention i literally forgot the passcode for my iPad, and it was sealed away forever.
Malaysia and indonesia rejected the quad and any alliance with the usa, and pew research shows that singalore malaysia and indonesia view china better than the usa 11:20 this map is inaccurate, also vietnam has the same friendship treaty with china as with the usa so it means nothing, not to mention taiwan had military skirmishes with vietnam recently as well even under the dpp independence party since they still claim the entire 11 dash lime despite what people will say
They don't have any overseas territories and they are surrounded and protected by the biggest countries of Europe, which are also allies. I would sleep too!
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Kazakhstan home of Tinshein swimming pool. Its length thirty meter and width six meter. Filtration system a marvel to behold. It remove 80 percent of human solid waste.
Kazakhstan, Kazakhstan you very nice place. From Plains of Tarashek to Norther fence of Jewtown. Kazakhstan friend of all except Uzbekistan. They very nosey people with bone in their brain.
Kazakhstan industry best in the world. We incented toffee and trouser belt. Kazakhstans pros#####es cleanest in the region. Except of course Turkmenistans
Kazakhstan, Kazakhstan you very nice place. From Plains of Tarashek to Norther fence of Jewtown. Come grasp the mighty ##### of our leader. From ######## with the ###### to tip of its face!
France including its 'Algerian departments' in article 6 was a skechy affair. None of the other countries were happy about it, but at the time of drafting (1949) it was impossible to defend Europe without their cooperation, so everyone agreed to a vague wording. That came back to bite them as France in the mid 50s redrew the boundaries of its departments to extend the area covered by hundreds of miles to the south.
@@chrosairs7057well their fault for giving France so much leeway, honestly im french and even i am baffled by how much they allowed France to get considering they couldnt even get their sh*t together until the next republic
Article 6 is about not having NATO dragged into (post-)colonial conflicts Article 4 is about talking to each other Article 5 is the result of those talks
@@yellow01umrella It's somewhere in there basically other NATO members would 1. seek to meditate, if no accords are reached 2. suspend NATO deployment and shipments to and through the warring states and kinda just let them duke it out on their own terms
@@zumis1011 Vietnam: it’s a swamp, nobo The mongols, France, and the us: NO!! No no no no no wtf is your problem? It’s not Vietnam. Yet The mongols: leave Indonesia alone too.
@@concept5631 Greenland is going to be a good mind that thaws out soon with global warming, and Canada is already fighting to keep their claims over the antarctic non-american
This is a great video. However, you missed out on the importance of another chapter of the North Atlantic Treaty, which is chapter 4. It calls for a meeting of NATO leaders when an event happens in a country to determine wether it really demands invoking article 5.
Good point. I consciously didn't talk directly about article 4 since I wanted to avoid making a video on how NATO works as a whole and instead focus on the geographic limitations of article 5, which are rarely talked about.
@@PoliticswithPaint Ah, OK, it's understandable! Besides, how NATO works is another topic for another video, I guess, and NATO not protecting its members fully is an interesting topic to talk about.
It''s actually quite important as this didnt happen that long ago when the ukrainian air defense missile struck a tractor in Poland by accident. Back then from what I remember that exact meeting was also called to discuss if Russia attacked them and if this is the case if they would trigger article 5.
I'd always wondered why the Falklands War didn't trigger Article 5, but never actually bothered to find out. Thank you for answering a question that's been bugging me for a while.
@@buffgarfield3231 I'm not saying the US should have fought for Argentina, but there was enough dispute that it weakened the already questionable treaty.
In the end, NATO is a REGIONAL security alliance and any military action is inherently a POLITICAL one. A military does not simply fight just to fight, it does so to achieve a desired end state designated by its political leadership. That said, I liked your content--well done!
If ever push came to shove, I doubt any NATO nation would allow a technicality to prevent them all from responding just because of the terrible precedent inaction will cause, especially if it comes to the US state of Hawaii.
Considering the amount of inaction most of NATO took toward Russia before the 2022 invasion I am not so sure they would be so reluctant to allow that precedent to be set
Article 42(7) of the Treaty on European Union forces most NATO members to defend EU territory regardless of location.The exceptions are notable, of course: US, UK, Canada, Turkey...
@@jean-philippebobin3732 hey we get ALL our Lunch from French Gyuana? Hell yeah WE defend IT until the Last Schnitzel! (I know it was a Typo but i couldn't resist.
8:20 (for those who don’t know) basically article 5 was triggered directly after a certain man decided to play angry birds irl in New York, which is its first time ever being triggered and currently last
@@thor.halsli To be fair, only the Bouvet Island is affected by the NATO agreement, as the claim to Peter I Island is suspended due to it being subject to the Antarctic Treaty.
I hate that we have to censor the name of factual events (no details, but just the name) to line up with TH-cam’s ridiculous standards, lest the video is removed.
I can't imagine why saying the words 9/11 would trigger TH-cam censors. It's one of the most famous events in world history and is relevant history for a very neutral, informative video.
I highly doubt that will ever happen. The UN would hate that and like what George Washington said, "Long term military alliances present a lot of drawbacks and only bring unnecessary wars"
@@SolidAvenger1290 George Washington also "Slavery is cool bruh" so maybe just maybe we should dispense with the notion that what Washington thought means jack.
Also, in the case of Ceuta. Given the close proximity to Spain, couldn't Spanish artillery shoot from the European mainland if Ceuta is attacked, using article 5 as a shield against counterfire from Morocco?
The only reason no one every talks about American territories not protected by Article Five is because the USA is basically 75% of NATO in both GDP and Military Spending, as well as 1/3 of the population.
Absolutely love the, video. Though there are some parts that you’ve forgotten about for that Moroccan-Spanish Conflict. The Green March is a big part of that conflict and has also led to the Western Sahara dispute and how the Spanish fear Moroccan aggression in their North African territories!
@@PoliticswithPaint There planning are similar alliance to NATO for the Pacific, which could include the US, Australia, India, Japan, South Korea, & Vietnam.
Oh, they tried. They whined about it to NATO when Goa was invaded, and they whined about it to NATO for the next 13 years. To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if some NATO countries backed the Carnation Revolution in '74 just to get Portugal to shut the hell up about Goa already.
Interestingly, the Moroccans occupying the island part of the Spanish enclave would have technically qualified (while attacking the mainland part would not have). Also, in a pinch, US could just declare that Hawaii is part of North America, so protected by article 5 regardless of latitude.
Interesting premise. The Panama canal treaty gives the USA the right to re-assert control of the canal zone in the event of a security threat. Then the US deems that "Central America" does not exist, only North and South America, and Panama is part of North America.
@@Avo7bProject I mean, I think most places don't consider Central America to be an actual geographical construct- most choose between 2 continents (North America and South America) or 1 continent (America). Of the places which consider the New World to be 2 continents, they typically put the dividing line at Panama because it's where the continent is the thinnest (and obviously there's the Panama Canal now which physically separates the landmasses just like the Suez physically separating Africa from Asia). Though I suppose you could make the argument that anything south of Mexico isn't North America because the North American plate seemingly cuts Guatemala in half.
America calls on its allies in all its other military operations (even if they're strong enough that they don't technically need to). See for example all the coalition members - Brits, French, Australians, etc - that came to Afghanistan. They'd have no trouble at all pulling in allies in the case of an attack on Hawaii.
@Nalehw Exactly, all the US vassals have to take part in American special military operations around the world, it's unimaginable they wouldn't make them involved if a proper US state was attacked.
There were other treaties that covered other parts of the world. Southeast Asia Treaty Organization (SEATO) and Central Treaty Organization (CENTO). Both failed due Coups and infighting between member states.
Great video but, quite arguably you have a wrong take on Morocco claiming Spanish towns of Ceuta and Melilla back. How can they get something back if they were never Moroccan to begin with. Very briefly: Ceuta was Portuguese since 1415, then Annexed to Spain (along with all Portuguese territories) in the XVI century. When Portugal got independence (1640), Ceuta remained a Spanish territory as an autonomous city. Melilla is Spanish since 1497, conquered by Pedro de Estopiñan for the Kingdom of Castilla. The integration in the Spanish nationality dates for more than 400 years, well before the Kingdom of Morocco was born as is. Even during Spanish-French protectorate (1912-1956), Ceuta and Melilla were not considered part of it, as they were judged Spanish.
There is a comment in the video that is not correct, the Moroccan army did not withdraw from the islet of Perejil. The Spanish army seized the Moroccan soldiers and sent them back to Morocco as illegal immigrants.
@@Johnny_Lawrence_1980 you said the Spanish army seized Moroccan soldiers and... Ah, I get it, I read it wrong. I thought you meant the soldiers were sent back as illegal immigrants to Morocco. As in, illegal in Morocco
@@anna-flora999 I read it again and you are right, it could be a bit confusing... 😄 Moroccan soldiers were deported to Morocco because they entered ilegally in Spain.
Lol Are you slow? They were not soldiers. They were auxiliary forces armed with batons and sent there to stop drug traffickers. You let them go after the US spanked you.
@@PoliticswithPaint Just don't forget that W.Sahara was an spanish province, whose secessionist transitioned to terrorist and started to kill the spaniards who where developing the area, which is literally a desert. Spain withdrew after many spaniards even civilians were murdered by sahrawis terrorists or "liberators". They could be an independent country already like Equatorial Guinea, which was their homologue in the south, but instead they decided to murder the spaniards which were building the largest phosphate mine in the world...
You do know Hawaii is heavily guarded by the US Navy right? I think they even have a blockade of sorts around the islands; about 100 miles or so from them in all directions.
I think it would make more sense to have a separate treaty for asian countries instead of having them all into NATO. Having them all into NATO would only lead to a decline of the political unity because all those countries could use a veto whenever they feel like it and I also feel like European countries and Canada are not interested in defending a lot of asian countries in the case of a possible war.
I believe there is some alliance between various US allies like Japan, Australia, and South Korea for the area, it just doesn’t have a lot of press. I also am pretty sure it doesn’t have an equivalent to article 5. Though take this with a grain of salt, I’m going off my memory which hasn’t been refreshed on this topic in years.
Yeah but NATO basically is the US. And the US can't contain😊 China on its own or just with the help of its Asian allies. That's why NATO is getting into the Pacific, which logically doesn't make sense, since NATO literally means it's an Atlantic organisation, but well none of the NATO countries vetoed it for some reason 😉
No NATO is most definitely NOT "basically the US.". You can say that the US supplies a majority of the military might. But that is only one part of what makes NATO work. @@rob6927
@@JoshdyisdifhAnd you think they have any power? If Erdogan says it's going through, it's going through... It's like Putin saying he needs the vote of the Duma.
Ceuta and Mellila should be included in article 5, if we are to be dragged into a war that is not our problem (Ukraine) then we can drag the others into our conflict.
0:19 Why exactly would you describe Article five of the NATO treaty: "Infamous"? What could possibly be "infamous" about making a mutual defence pact? Are countries not allowed to defend themselves?
People are always arguing with me when I say Hawaii is not protected by NATO because the state is south of the Tropic of Cancer. There argument is that because Hawaii is a state and not a territory it’s an integral part of the US and would be protected under NATO however if that was true then French Guiana would also be protected since it’s also an integral part of France.
This is actualy realy cool. Basicly this means that NATO refuses to defend european imperialism. Every time I learn something new about NATO it's almost always something good.
Except in the case of Spain, which is why the spanish government tries to get garantees from NATO, the UN has labeled spanish territories in North Africa as not colonies and intergral parts of Spain, unlike the Falklands or French Guyana, which are considered colonies.
The remaining overseas territories of European nations do not constitute imperialism. Every single one of them has been given the option of independence and has chosen to remain tied to Europe. There's only one remaining anomaly - Chagos. But there is no current native population in Chagos. You might find it surprising that they would choose to remain, but if you learn more about them you'd probably understand.
If article 6 does change they would have to change it form North Atlantic treaty organisation (NATO) to Earth treaty organisation (ETO) because it isn’t focused in the North Atlantic anymore. They will probably come up with a better name. I doubt they will use mine.
The bad part in Spain is that Ceuta and Melilla are Core territory of Spain, there arent colonies, there are Spanish before a cohesive Morocco state existed.
So many comments saying "its in the name lol". No, it's not. The guy literally explains why it's more complicated than that. Spain has territories in theoretically the North Atlantic area but still doesn't get guarantees. And some territories that are clearly outside of that area COULD be protected if there is a political will and consensus.
8:23 don’t you just love how you can’t say certain historical topics like 9/11 and ww2 without youtube wanting to fucking obliterate your monetisation? you apparently can’t talk about any of this even in an educational context, because it might offend advertisers cause how dare people speak of topics that happened (if we pretend it didn’t happen, it didn’t happen 👍)
YT can be pretty two-faced about what they consider "community standards". On the right edge of my screen is a suggested video with 2 million views... "What women consider the perfect p*nis shape".
Well no duh; it's a US state. You think we'll allow another Pearl Harbor? Hawaii has a massive US fleet protecting the islands. I think the only territory that's even more guarded than them is Guam since it's not far away from China and thus would get first in the event China did a stupid and attack.
Maybe I am an idiot, but isn't Ceuta tactically relevant to be able to completely block the entrance to the Mediterranean with NATO-owned territorial waters? Giving it a similar importance as the choke point that is the Bosporus in Turkey? I always thought it was just in terms of trying to keep the peace that we let other nations warships through there.
Hawaii was a US territory when the NAT was signed and the US did not mentioned it in Art 6 in 1959 when it became a state in a way the French had their Algerian department mentioned, so probably the US even don’t want it to be covered.
Also Ceuta and Melilla are not Spanish territories, they are autonomous cities within the Kingdom of Spain. Basically as much a part of Spain as Madrid is.
The Hawaiian issue seems silly to me, it being a crucial part of the US Fleet in the pacific and being a core part of America, it being a state and all makes me think it would invoke article 5 if attack, granted the US might just tell everyone to get involved anyways if they havent already joined in. (Only wrote this at the start, I bet you go over it)
Puerto Rico or the Virgin Islands would have been a more intriguing debate point. Since they're not states, but with populations who file US taxes and have nominally independent governments. Guantanamo Bay would be even more cloudy. I could perhaps see a few NATO members like Hungary showboating and refusing to support the USA, if the USA fought Cuba in Guantanamo.
@@Avo7bProject I believe Guantánamo Bay is leased from Cuba rather than an American territory. I think that would be more equivalent to one of our bases on other nation’s soil, such as Okinawa. And Guantánamo Bay also clearly qualifies as one of those “imperial possessions“ that NATO tries to not get involved in.
It's because when NATO formed, Hawaii was still a territory not a state. They didn't become an official state until after NATO formed. A bad oversight that has yet to be corrected.
The US doesn't "tell" NATO members to get involved. They convene in Brussels and decide to do so. If Hawaii were attacked, the US has other allies in the Pacific to rely on who would be worried about Asian aggressor nations. North Korea would be the most likely culprit. China would be second. But neither are especially likely. Australia, Japan and South Korea would be very concerned. And I'm sure a few southeast Asian nations would react as well.
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I played the game once on my own personal iPad and i chose thailand and vietnam was attacking me during the game. I did not start the war and another player attacked someone who was once previously playing Thailand.
Not to mention i literally forgot the passcode for my iPad, and it was sealed away forever.
Malaysia and indonesia rejected the quad and any alliance with the usa, and pew research shows that singalore malaysia and indonesia view china better than the usa 11:20 this map is inaccurate, also vietnam has the same friendship treaty with china as with the usa so it means nothing, not to mention taiwan had military skirmishes with vietnam recently as well even under the dpp independence party since they still claim the entire 11 dash lime despite what people will say
Only option I see for now is including all official states in the pact. As for the rest? Meh...
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I love how Belgium sleeps through all the NATO meetings.
They don't have any overseas territories and they are surrounded and protected by the biggest countries of Europe, which are also allies. I would sleep too!
As a Belgian ... yeah
Took me to 11:35 to spot that gag and chuckle. That was subtle, on the edge of the slide slow...
I think it was to avoid picking a language.
Yes it could also be a jab in them having about the worst military in the alliance.
Kazakhstan can get sunny beaches without NATO getting involved? GREAT SUCCESS
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Kazakhstan, greatest country in the world
All other countries are run by little girls
Kazakhstan, number 1 exporter of potassium
All other countries have inferior potassium
Potassium comes from potatoes so doubt it is any better we grow more potatoes.@@CheukTheGreatestOfEverything
Kazakhstan greatest country in the world.
All other countries are run by little girls.
Kazakhstan number one exporter of potassium.
Other countries have inferior potassium.
Kazakhstan home of Tinshein swimming pool.
Its length thirty meter and width six meter.
Filtration system a marvel to behold.
It remove 80 percent of human solid waste.
Kazakhstan, Kazakhstan you very nice place.
From Plains of Tarashek to Norther fence of Jewtown.
Kazakhstan friend of all except Uzbekistan.
They very nosey people with bone in their brain.
Kazakhstan industry best in the world.
We incented toffee and trouser belt.
Kazakhstans pros#####es cleanest in the region.
Except of course Turkmenistans
Kazakhstan, Kazakhstan you very nice place.
From Plains of Tarashek to Norther fence of Jewtown.
Come grasp the mighty ##### of our leader.
From ######## with the ###### to tip of its face!
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. I think it would be easier for them if NATO were involved.
France including its 'Algerian departments' in article 6 was a skechy affair. None of the other countries were happy about it, but at the time of drafting (1949) it was impossible to defend Europe without their cooperation, so everyone agreed to a vague wording. That came back to bite them as France in the mid 50s redrew the boundaries of its departments to extend the area covered by hundreds of miles to the south.
Based Frenchmen
yeah and still nato did nothing when the commies attacked French algeria
@@sirllamaiii9708 based on their dying imperial ambitions
based on ur mom @@chrosairs7057
@@chrosairs7057well their fault for giving France so much leeway, honestly im french and even i am baffled by how much they allowed France to get considering they couldnt even get their sh*t together until the next republic
My view for globalising NATO is to make a new orginisation, the Pacific Ocean and Trans-Atlantic Treaty Orginisation (POTATO)
*hot potato, considering what's going on in those parts
Ireland will definitely join this one.
Does this translate into OTATOP in French like how NATO is OTAN in French?
1 point for you. @@tedcrilly46
OTTAOP (organisation du traité transatlantique et de l'océan Pacifique) if you must know.
This is not what we call potato in French, sadly.
Article 6 is about not having NATO dragged into (post-)colonial conflicts
Article 4 is about talking to each other
Article 5 is the result of those talks
Which proved useful in the Falkland Islands War.
What about, Article *7(-77)* - Purgatory!
Which article applies if Turkey and Greece go to war with each other?
@@yellow01umrella It's somewhere in there basically other NATO members would
1. seek to meditate, if no accords are reached
2. suspend NATO deployment and shipments to and through the warring states and kinda just let them duke it out on their own terms
@@heylolp9 I guess... you know Cyprus would get involved as well and also the EU.
China: Wait, I can invade Hawaii and not trigger Article 5?
Japan: Don't try it 😢
China: the Philippines then? They’d never risk anything for them and not North Atlantic. Loophole!
Japan could have joint Russian Chinese invasion.
@@ryhol5417 Japan:Yeah, I wouldn't do that either
China has nukes too
@@zumis1011 Vietnam: it’s a swamp, nobo
The mongols, France, and the us: NO!! No no no no no wtf is your problem? It’s not Vietnam. Yet
The mongols: leave Indonesia alone too.
Portugal actually tried to invoke article 5 when India annexed Goa, Daman and Diu...it was promptly advised not to do so due to art 6.
And something like the Goa dispute was the exact reason why Article 6 exists in the first place.
Because NATO is Anti-Russia. India is not Russia so its okay!
Actually, no one wanted to get involved in that. With colonial powers declining, the territory was anyways going to be reclaimed at some point.
They’d take the planet if they could
@@BennoRob95only half 😉
Missed opportunity - to also point out that the NATO treaty carefully avoided conflicting claims in Antarctica.
Thinking ahead of the curb.
do note there not those arent actually apart of the countries its just a claim
@@scoutmehgaming17 For now
@@concept5631 Greenland is going to be a good mind that thaws out soon with global warming, and Canada is already fighting to keep their claims over the antarctic non-american
UK/France/Norway
This is a great video. However, you missed out on the importance of another chapter of the North Atlantic Treaty, which is chapter 4. It calls for a meeting of NATO leaders when an event happens in a country to determine wether it really demands invoking article 5.
Good point. I consciously didn't talk directly about article 4 since I wanted to avoid making a video on how NATO works as a whole and instead focus on the geographic limitations of article 5, which are rarely talked about.
@@PoliticswithPaint Ah, OK, it's understandable! Besides, how NATO works is another topic for another video, I guess, and NATO not protecting its members fully is an interesting topic to talk about.
It''s actually quite important as this didnt happen that long ago when the ukrainian air defense missile struck a tractor in Poland by accident. Back then from what I remember that exact meeting was also called to discuss if Russia attacked them and if this is the case if they would trigger article 5.
I'd always wondered why the Falklands War didn't trigger Article 5, but never actually bothered to find out. Thank you for answering a question that's been bugging me for a while.
I always though it was a case of "Pfft! We dont need help for this, right lads?"
The Falklands War did basicly end the Rio Pact, as the US and other treaty nations failed to defend Argentina.
@@zeroone8800 Well did Mainland Argentina even get attacked?
@@buffgarfield3231 I'm not saying the US should have fought for Argentina, but there was enough dispute that it weakened the already questionable treaty.
@@buffgarfield3231 Argentian territory was conquered by a forgien power and the Pact did nothing the U.S even aided the invaders.
In the end, NATO is a REGIONAL security alliance and any military action is inherently a POLITICAL one. A military does not simply fight just to fight, it does so to achieve a desired end state designated by its political leadership. That said, I liked your content--well done!
If ever push came to shove, I doubt any NATO nation would allow a technicality to prevent them all from responding just because of the terrible precedent inaction will cause, especially if it comes to the US state of Hawaii.
Considering the amount of inaction most of NATO took toward Russia before the 2022 invasion I am not so sure they would be so reluctant to allow that precedent to be set
@@markdowding5737 no one expected them to invade.
@@downey2294except the US which kept on talking about it, while Ukraine and the rest of Europe doubted it. Until it happened
@@KaloyanKasabov maybe our NATO allies will actually take things seriously now.
Just remember Hawaii is part of US
Article 42(7) of the Treaty on European Union forces most NATO members to defend EU territory regardless of location.The exceptions are notable, of course: US, UK, Canada, Turkey...
One of the major location that is most concerned is French Gyuna, were the EU lunch program is.
Also known as the EUs 'common defense and security policy'.
Other inter-EU alliances are Cedc, Nordefco, Lublin triangle.
@@jean-philippebobin3732 hey we get ALL our Lunch from French Gyuana? Hell yeah WE defend IT until the Last Schnitzel! (I know it was a Typo but i couldn't resist.
@@Nagrachlp I must have hungry in my subconscient
US, UK, Turkey
So all the worthwhile militaries except for France
0:14 underrated joke lmao
That got me off guard 😭
8:20 (for those who don’t know)
basically article 5 was triggered directly after a certain man decided to play angry birds irl in New York, which is its first time ever being triggered and currently last
Norway has two islands south of the cancer that the treaty don't protect as well
Bouvet Island and Peter I Island
Thanks for the info, I had totally missed that!
@@thor.halsli To be fair, only the Bouvet Island is affected by the NATO agreement, as the claim to Peter I Island is suspended due to it being subject to the Antarctic Treaty.
I need to go warn my Hawaiian friends...
There is nothing that will save you. Or your friends.
@@ChezburgerYummy the last time hawaii got invaded 2 suns were dropped on the aggressor's mainland
I hate that we have to censor the name of factual events (no details, but just the name) to line up with TH-cam’s ridiculous standards, lest the video is removed.
Although, I kind of like how more content creators are finding ways to call out YT's interference.
I can't imagine why saying the words 9/11 would trigger TH-cam censors. It's one of the most famous events in world history and is relevant history for a very neutral, informative video.
But hey, keep calling us crazy co nospi racy the orists.
@@guillermoelnino I'm certain I'm going to regret this, but what are you implying?
@@NitowskiJ23 y ou're right. Y ou woild regret it.
0:13 bro predicted the future
How
The turkish ice cream man meme at the beginning was perfect
damn, that Turkish icecream man is the funniest sh*t I've seen this week
If they decide to change and incorporate other countries outside of the North Atlantic then I hope they name it "Global Treaty Alliance" (GTA)
I highly doubt that will ever happen. The UN would hate that and like what George Washington said, "Long term military alliances present a lot of drawbacks and only bring unnecessary wars"
@@SolidAvenger1290 George Washington also "Slavery is cool bruh" so maybe just maybe we should dispense with the notion that what Washington thought means jack.
@varalderfreyr8438
He owned slaves.
It's best to avoid entering conflicts
@varalderfreyr8438 That's exactly what it means.
Yes! My country 🇪🇸🇪🇸
Some of your country will become my country 🇲🇦🇲🇦 (joking) 🇲🇦🇲🇦 ❤ 🇪🇸🇪🇸
@@FH-rp5or Never ever.
i love the reference to the turkish ice cream trick guy 😂
That Turkish ice cream clip is SO ON-POINT.
I love how Turkey was portrayed waving NATO in front of Sweden like it was Turkish ice cream
We don’t want nato only the government does
Also, in the case of Ceuta. Given the close proximity to Spain, couldn't Spanish artillery shoot from the European mainland if Ceuta is attacked, using article 5 as a shield against counterfire from Morocco?
Probably.
Yes, Spain doesn't really need NATO to defend them but it is more of a deterrent given Moroccan wild desires.
The only reason no one every talks about American territories not protected by Article Five is because the USA is basically 75% of NATO in both GDP and Military Spending, as well as 1/3 of the population.
"article 5 doesn't include Hawaii"
China: it's free real estate
They aren't stupid; Hawaii is extremely protected by a large US fleet. You think we would allow another Pearl Harbor to happen again?
What do you mean the "so-called" Tropic of Cancer? It IS the Tropic of Cancer.
He meant to say that it's name is tropic of cancer
@@bestleefboi Usually "so called" is used to downplay or degrade the name as if it's not valid or doesn't mean what it says.
lol the emphasis isnt great too
I had thought it was a pun because of how the constant sun can give you skin cancer.
@@killercore007 That's "Cancer" as in the constellation, you silly goose!
As a part turkic I must say The turkic ball toying with Sweden with the ice-cream nato scoop is absolutely brilliant. 😂
*Redoes Pearl Harbor but with nukes*
Rest of Nato: *Ight imma head out*
0:20 Infamous article 5?! My quiet and peacefull life depends on that thing ! I love that thing !
If you only listened to this video, you missed out on a god tier animation at 0:14
I loved that little Easter egg lol
Absolutely love the, video. Though there are some parts that you’ve forgotten about for that Moroccan-Spanish Conflict. The Green March is a big part of that conflict and has also led to the Western Sahara dispute and how the Spanish fear Moroccan aggression in their North African territories!
Thank you! The Spanish-Moroccan conflict will get a video on its' own, where I will go into much more detail than here.
@@PoliticswithPaint can’t wait!!!
@@PoliticswithPaint There planning are similar alliance to NATO for the Pacific, which could include the US, Australia, India, Japan, South Korea, & Vietnam.
The "so called Tropic of Cancer"? What? What's next, "the so called sun"? "The so called Pacific Ocean"?
Wow learnt something new today. I was wondering why Portugal didnt trigger article 5 when India took over Goa. Even my Indian friends weren't sure
They did ask for help. NATO allies put sanctions, no more than that.
Oh, they tried. They whined about it to NATO when Goa was invaded, and they whined about it to NATO for the next 13 years. To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if some NATO countries backed the Carnation Revolution in '74 just to get Portugal to shut the hell up about Goa already.
They tried to but were strongly advised not to by the other NATO members.
Absolutely wild to have Conflict of Nations as the sponsor.
7:57 you did the Kazakhstan dirty with the borat underwear refrence
Interestingly, the Moroccans occupying the island part of the Spanish enclave would have technically qualified (while attacking the mainland part would not have). Also, in a pinch, US could just declare that Hawaii is part of North America, so protected by article 5 regardless of latitude.
Interesting premise. The Panama canal treaty gives the USA the right to re-assert control of the canal zone in the event of a security threat. Then the US deems that "Central America" does not exist, only North and South America, and Panama is part of North America.
@@Avo7bProject I mean, I think most places don't consider Central America to be an actual geographical construct- most choose between 2 continents (North America and South America) or 1 continent (America). Of the places which consider the New World to be 2 continents, they typically put the dividing line at Panama because it's where the continent is the thinnest (and obviously there's the Panama Canal now which physically separates the landmasses just like the Suez physically separating Africa from Asia). Though I suppose you could make the argument that anything south of Mexico isn't North America because the North American plate seemingly cuts Guatemala in half.
That's assuming the US even feels the need to call in NATO at all in that case.
America calls on its allies in all its other military operations (even if they're strong enough that they don't technically need to). See for example all the coalition members - Brits, French, Australians, etc - that came to Afghanistan. They'd have no trouble at all pulling in allies in the case of an attack on Hawaii.
@Nalehw Exactly, all the US vassals have to take part in American special military operations around the world, it's unimaginable they wouldn't make them involved if a proper US state was attacked.
WoW, you answer the question within the first five words of your vid.
I wish more youtubers would get to the point like that
So if Hawaii is attacked again, Article 5 would not be invoked?
ruSSia moment
There were other treaties that covered other parts of the world. Southeast Asia Treaty Organization (SEATO) and Central Treaty Organization (CENTO). Both failed due Coups and infighting between member states.
Frederick The Great Quote "He who defends everything defends nothing"
I love the Turkish Ice Cream Man in the start😂😂😂
Great video but, quite arguably you have a wrong take on Morocco claiming Spanish towns of Ceuta and Melilla back. How can they get something back if they were never Moroccan to begin with.
Very briefly: Ceuta was Portuguese since 1415, then Annexed to Spain (along with all Portuguese territories) in the XVI century. When Portugal got independence (1640), Ceuta remained a Spanish territory as an autonomous city. Melilla is Spanish since 1497, conquered by Pedro de Estopiñan for the Kingdom of Castilla. The integration in the Spanish nationality dates for more than 400 years, well before the Kingdom of Morocco was born as is. Even during Spanish-French protectorate (1912-1956), Ceuta and Melilla were not considered part of it, as they were judged Spanish.
Yes Morocco Ceuta and Melilla 🇲🇦💪
Even when they were last ruled by Muslims they were rules from the peninsula
@@yherosanime1092 Come and take them.
There is a comment in the video that is not correct, the Moroccan army did not withdraw from the islet of Perejil. The Spanish army seized the Moroccan soldiers and sent them back to Morocco as illegal immigrants.
How can Moroccan soldiers being send to Morocco be illegal immigrants?
@@anna-flora999 Perejil islet is not Morocco, it is Spanish territory.
@@Johnny_Lawrence_1980 you said the Spanish army seized Moroccan soldiers and... Ah, I get it, I read it wrong. I thought you meant the soldiers were sent back as illegal immigrants to Morocco. As in, illegal in Morocco
@@anna-flora999 I read it again and you are right, it could be a bit confusing... 😄 Moroccan soldiers were deported to Morocco because they entered ilegally in Spain.
Lol Are you slow? They were not soldiers. They were auxiliary forces armed with batons and sent there to stop drug traffickers. You let them go after the US spanked you.
Long time no see! Welcome back!
Your videos are amazing. You deserve way more subscribers.
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Especially Saint-Pierre and Miquelon, south of Canadian-held Newfoundland and Labrador.
Watch France rename all it's foreign territories collectively as the "Department's of Algeria".
Good idea !
Are you planning to release a video about the western Sahara conflict?(ps i live in morocco)
A video is planned, not sure when exactly though.
Its not western sahara its the Moroccan Sahara or the southern provinces
@@iliasszennati173not really, in my opinion western Sahara should be independent.
It's still called western Sahara anyways.
@@PoliticswithPaint Just don't forget that W.Sahara was an spanish province, whose secessionist transitioned to terrorist and started to kill the spaniards who where developing the area, which is literally a desert. Spain withdrew after many spaniards even civilians were murdered by sahrawis terrorists or "liberators". They could be an independent country already like Equatorial Guinea, which was their homologue in the south, but instead they decided to murder the spaniards which were building the largest phosphate mine in the world...
@@catfacecat. in my opinion your opinion is wrong and if you think otherwise then no damns will be given
No one talking abt how turkey is doing the turkish ice cream thing with nato lol
This was a great video.
I learned something about Article V that I somehow missed during my military career from your video.
It's "Melilla", not "Menilla". You probably confused it with Manila (capital of Philippines, also a Spanish colony).
Probably a typo. He correctly says Melilla.
Melilla is not a colony as was Manila. It has been always been a Spanish city.
Every Hawaiian feeling gangster with their protection until the Kazakh-brick arrives
You do know Hawaii is heavily guarded by the US Navy right? I think they even have a blockade of sorts around the islands; about 100 miles or so from them in all directions.
Very informative!
I think it would make more sense to have a separate treaty for asian countries instead of having them all into NATO. Having them all into NATO would only lead to a decline of the political unity because all those countries could use a veto whenever they feel like it and I also feel like European countries and Canada are not interested in defending a lot of asian countries in the case of a possible war.
I believe there is some alliance between various US allies like Japan, Australia, and South Korea for the area, it just doesn’t have a lot of press. I also am pretty sure it doesn’t have an equivalent to article 5. Though take this with a grain of salt, I’m going off my memory which hasn’t been refreshed on this topic in years.
Yeah but NATO basically is the US. And the US can't contain😊 China on its own or just with the help of its Asian allies.
That's why NATO is getting into the Pacific, which logically doesn't make sense, since NATO literally means it's an Atlantic organisation, but well none of the NATO countries vetoed it for some reason 😉
No NATO is most definitely NOT "basically the US.". You can say that the US supplies a majority of the military might. But that is only one part of what makes NATO work. @@rob6927
Quick thing, Turkey has already approved of Sweden joining, it’s just Hungary holding it up now.
Turkish Parliament hasn't approved yet.
@@JoshdyisdifhAnd you think they have any power? If Erdogan says it's going through, it's going through... It's like Putin saying he needs the vote of the Duma.
@@FragLord 50% chance only. Remember that back in 2003, Turkish Parliament didn't support using Turkey being a launch pad for the US war in Iraq.
In the meantime the powers of the Turkish parliament changed a lot. Turkey is now basically a presidential republic.
@@poposk9024Turkish Parliament still can veto, just like US Congress can veto.
"North Atlantic Treaty Organization"
Thank you everybody I will be here all week
"Including it’s Asian part"
My guy, most of Turkey is in Asia.
Ceuta and Mellila should be included in article 5, if we are to be dragged into a war that is not our problem (Ukraine) then we can drag the others into our conflict.
Yes, but Ukraine is also our problem.
Good video. I would have liked if Article 4 was mentioned as well.
The gateway into the sponsor was solid. Actually made me laugh
Australia should be a NATO member. It is geographical discrimination.
Australia has other security treaty agreements with the US and it's other allies.
A very entertaining and informative channel. Bravo! 🎉😊
0:19 Why exactly would you describe Article five of the NATO treaty: "Infamous"? What could possibly be "infamous" about making a mutual defence pact? Are countries not allowed to defend themselves?
i think because if invoked it could mean ww3
@@tedrash7402 I still don't see that as infamous. Something Infamous has the quality of being wrong or evil.
Dude you even showed Ukraine's summer counteroffensive on the map, including Robotyne, amazing attention to detail and thank you!
Counteroffensive? You mean slaughter of thousands conscripted ukrainians?
adn russians you can't foget the thousands of conscripted russians who got killed@@deemwinch
You can't say 9/11 or the September 11th attacks on TH-cam anymore? Wtf...
People are always arguing with me when I say Hawaii is not protected by NATO because the state is south of the Tropic of Cancer. There argument is that because Hawaii is a state and not a territory it’s an integral part of the US and would be protected under NATO however if that was true then French Guiana would also be protected since it’s also an integral part of France.
0:38 Pacific Empire just got a little closer
your energy and enthusiasm make every video a joy to watch!
Danke für das spannende Video. Du hast einige Facetten beleuchtet, die mir noch gar nicht bewusst gewesen sind!
i love it that conflict of nations is the sponsor. very on point
This is actualy realy cool. Basicly this means that NATO refuses to defend european imperialism.
Every time I learn something new about NATO it's almost always something good.
Except in the case of Spain, which is why the spanish government tries to get garantees from NATO, the UN has labeled spanish territories in North Africa as not colonies and intergral parts of Spain, unlike the Falklands or French Guyana, which are considered colonies.
The remaining overseas territories of European nations do not constitute imperialism. Every single one of them has been given the option of independence and has chosen to remain tied to Europe. There's only one remaining anomaly - Chagos. But there is no current native population in Chagos.
You might find it surprising that they would choose to remain, but if you learn more about them you'd probably understand.
If article 6 does change they would have to change it form North Atlantic treaty organisation (NATO) to Earth treaty organisation (ETO) because it isn’t focused in the North Atlantic anymore. They will probably come up with a better name. I doubt they will use mine.
Atlantis Treaty Organisation, sounds better.
Or even better! The Global Defense Initiative (GDI)
@@MisF1998Better hope no green crystals get discovered...
How about the "Oceania Treaty Organization"?
@@echidnanatsuki882orwell approves of this name
The bad part in Spain is that Ceuta and Melilla are Core territory of Spain, there arent colonies, there are Spanish before a cohesive Morocco state existed.
That is a lot of BS. Morocco has been a nation states for over a thousand years.
@@alichahinYou brownies really like to invent history huh?
So many comments saying "its in the name lol". No, it's not. The guy literally explains why it's more complicated than that. Spain has territories in theoretically the North Atlantic area but still doesn't get guarantees. And some territories that are clearly outside of that area COULD be protected if there is a political will and consensus.
Welcome to the Internet where every idiot gets to be heard, right?
If iam not wrong, after the last MAdrid conference, spanish Ceuta and Melilla are now included
Probably for the best. We really don't need Morocco causing problems over such a petty border dispute.
It's called "North Atlantic"
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I don't really see any reason for European countries to agree to expanding NATO into East-Asia.
Makes me wonder if another alliance organization would have to be made for the Pacific side. APTO _(Asian Pacific Treaty Organization),_ perhaps?
8:23 don’t you just love how you can’t say certain historical topics like 9/11 and ww2 without youtube wanting to fucking obliterate your monetisation? you apparently can’t talk about any of this even in an educational context, because it might offend advertisers cause how dare people speak of topics that happened (if we pretend it didn’t happen, it didn’t happen 👍)
POV: you don't know "monetization" is 😂
YT can be pretty two-faced about what they consider "community standards". On the right edge of my screen is a suggested video with 2 million views... "What women consider the perfect p*nis shape".
I am Dutch and the most fun part is the Belgium representative just sleeping in the corner 🤣
I’m sure America would absolutely defend Hawaii
Depends on how much the ccp pays biden beforehand.
Well no duh; it's a US state. You think we'll allow another Pearl Harbor? Hawaii has a massive US fleet protecting the islands. I think the only territory that's even more guarded than them is Guam since it's not far away from China and thus would get first in the event China did a stupid and attack.
Was that a serious question anyone was asking?
Yes obviously the US would defend its Pacific territories including Hawaii.
Maybe I am an idiot, but isn't Ceuta tactically relevant to be able to completely block the entrance to the Mediterranean with NATO-owned territorial waters?
Giving it a similar importance as the choke point that is the Bosporus in Turkey? I always thought it was just in terms of trying to keep the peace that we let other nations warships through there.
I, for one, welcome our Khazakhstani overlords.
Me: looks at thumbnail
The thumbnail:
Me: read the first letter of the acronym
Considering that Hawaii is directly part of the USA and not a territory, it'll be a part of chapter 6 still.
I think you could make the same case for French Guiana too.
@@Avo7bProject is that a state or province of France?
@@electricheartponyIt's an "Overseas Department of France" - has the same laws as France, and even has a European Parliament member.
Hawaii was a US territory when the NAT was signed and the US did not mentioned it in Art 6 in 1959 when it became a state in a way the French had their Algerian department mentioned, so probably the US even don’t want it to be covered.
Also Ceuta and Melilla are not Spanish territories, they are autonomous cities within the Kingdom of Spain. Basically as much a part of Spain as Madrid is.
turkey juggling nato ice cream was accurate
Summary: The territories aren’t in the North Atlantic. SIMPLE.
Thank you for an informative video.
Very good video
As a Turk, I support Spain on this issue
1:24 my favourite game
It is broken
4:00 "as well as France"
I did a double take here because it sounded like you said the Netherlands owns France.
The Hawaiian issue seems silly to me, it being a crucial part of the US Fleet in the pacific and being a core part of America, it being a state and all makes me think it would invoke article 5 if attack, granted the US might just tell everyone to get involved anyways if they havent already joined in. (Only wrote this at the start, I bet you go over it)
Puerto Rico or the Virgin Islands would have been a more intriguing debate point. Since they're not states, but with populations who file US taxes and have nominally independent governments. Guantanamo Bay would be even more cloudy. I could perhaps see a few NATO members like Hungary showboating and refusing to support the USA, if the USA fought Cuba in Guantanamo.
@@Avo7bProject I believe Guantánamo Bay is leased from Cuba rather than an American territory. I think that would be more equivalent to one of our bases on other nation’s soil, such as Okinawa. And Guantánamo Bay also clearly qualifies as one of those “imperial possessions“ that NATO tries to not get involved in.
It's because when NATO formed, Hawaii was still a territory not a state. They didn't become an official state until after NATO formed.
A bad oversight that has yet to be corrected.
The US doesn't "tell" NATO members to get involved. They convene in Brussels and decide to do so.
If Hawaii were attacked, the US has other allies in the Pacific to rely on who would be worried about Asian aggressor nations. North Korea would be the most likely culprit. China would be second. But neither are especially likely.
Australia, Japan and South Korea would be very concerned. And I'm sure a few southeast Asian nations would react as well.
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Protect from who? From Nato?