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I purchased this for my steam deck, and after doing so my games started stuttering, dropping to unplayable frame rates, and then over heating and shutting down. I've been working on computers and such for 25yrs. But this product unfortunately did not work for me. It also took over 2 months to recieve. Switch back to thermalpaste and everything works flawlessly.
Appreciate this feedback very much. I was seriously considering it, but I was also very skeptical. I've been in IT for about 20 years myself, and I try to stay opened minded to new developments, but I'm glad to hear from a peer on this issue and glad I wasn't taken in by the hype.
You're adding additional material in-between the heat sink and the SOC and the heat generated still needs to dissipate out. 100% you are better off with a good brand of thermal paste
@@TravisHi_YT they don't really. Luckily steam didn't cheap out on thermal paste during production. Not a lot can be done without hacking up the shell and even then it's not really worth it. It's one of the downsides to small form factor
@@ihvdrm unfortunately the shell jsaux sent me wasn't flush with the body so they're sending me a replacement. I haven't been able to try the copper plate yet. But the aluminum plate gets nice and toasty so the copper should do well. Hopefully have a working replacement in about a week
i also have this on my og and oled steam deck and temps are great. even fan noise is down for me. and havent had any problems in over a year on my og and so far no problems on my steam deck oled.
So, something I haven't seen mentioned here is: when were those stock readings taken? Valve has made several changes to the fan curves since launch, so are we certain the RPM readings shown are an apples to apples comparison?
I was just playing a game on my Steam Deck, and the temps were at 79-83c-ish, and my fan rpm at 5000-ish, just like the video. It only ramped up to 6000 occasionally, when pausing weirdly. I wonder how much of a difference the pads really nice make.
Look at the power draw and the CPU frequency. Both scenes stress the deck in different way, so even if all the other stuff is the same, that comparision is flawed.
Much better is subjective. Just watch Gamer'sNexus or LTT video's on graphite pads. Both go into detail that on lower wattages and for essentially normal use, it performs almost the same. When on higher wattages, the gap of performance widens, but still in ~5 degree difference territory. Don't ever plan on overclocking with it though. Make no mistake, (good) thermal paste will always be better, but by how much will be dependent on the use. Then there's the fact that it doesn't dry out and gives consistent performance for its application. For a one-and-done solution, a $11 name brand graphite pad doesn't seem that bad of an idea. I don't know much about graphene, but it's supposed to be better for conductivity than graphite.
Maybe one day they'll have these pads at worthwhile efficiencies, but for now, I think compound is better for most applications. I could see this being useful for some things, especially in a situation where you're testing multiple CPU's with a single heatsink, or multiple heatsinks on the same CPU. It would make sense to just use one of these pads. But any kind of permanent application, might as well just stick with thermal paste.
@Stein Mauer My guy. No one is going to argue with you on the price of good paste vs. pads. That's a point where there's no contest. I also said that of course good paste performs better, but by your statement of that it's MUCH better and SAFE, well, that's subjective and in some cases not entirely true.
I don’t know why you’re so brazen about this. Is 3 degrees considered MUCH better? Or 2? 2x conductivity, are you high? A simple bit of research shows the exact opposite of what you just said. Also, not all paste is non conductive. For the love of god, please don’t spread that around to people.
What is the sheets rating in W/mK? Don't see it anywhere on their site. That price is OFF the chain high. Quality 12.8W/mK sheets can be had on sites for at little as $13 for a 3 pack of 100x100mm 0.5mm,1mm,1.5mm thickness.
Fun fact, fan power goes roughly by the cube of the speed. So going from 6000 to 5000 rpm is actually around 40% reduction in power. And assuming that noise output power is linear with power (it's not, really, but good enough approximation), that's over 2dB of noise drop from the lowered RPM, which is definitely noticeable! Neat little pad. Nice to see graphene entering the consumer space.
Are you sure it's not a graphite thermal pad? There's a huge difference between graphene and graphite thermal properties but how can you verify it's graphene or not?
BE CAREFUL, although this drops cpu temps the temps of the surrounding components like memory are still producing the same amount of heat. These components are not actively monitored or cooled so a drop in fan speed will cause a jump in temperature from those components which are still producing the same amount of heat. Watch gamers Nexus video for more info
@@ithildiess8305 it dropped some rpms on the fan but that was it. Waste of time and money. Ended up doing some extreme mods and my temps are barely pushing 65c
At this point I've done this mod myself and I believe I've learned something not stated in the video. The APU cooler has 3 retention arms which are labeled 1-3 and when I first installed the frost sheet pad I screwed the cooler down 2-1-3 which caused a whole bunch of mounting pressure problems. HUGE MISTAKE. Tldr: Screw the cooler down in the proper order otherwise suffer black screens due to bad mounting pressure.
@@jonathanscott555 well I guess I regret buying it then hhhh I'll just do the 1 tb ssd upgrade and the clear shell upgrade. What can I do with this graphite then? Haha
I'm sure you have contact with sponsor of this video. Could you please suggest to put some reference sizes on the website? Like this will fiit ryzen cpu, Intel cpu etc. That would help a lot.
Hey bret cool vid man keep up the good work, btw do not expect to always be able to reuse that thermal pad, just finished fixing a friend's 5700xt it was massively overheating and thermal throttling when i took it apart it turns out it had a Graphiene pad and not only was it stuck on, it was no longer working, the 5700xt isn't that old, and it tore up when i removed the cooler. i had to scrub the cooler and gpu down pretty hard to get the residue off and then replace it with thermal paste and it was WORLDS better
@@JavoCoverYeah that is the tough part until a device is deployed for an extended amount of time you never quite know what will happen. less than 6 months ago i had to change the thermal paste on my Founders 2080ti and it was WEIRD. Normally none of my brand new cards have needed a paste change even ones bought way back in 2012 are still running strong, usually only need new past on used cards. Usually the paste on old Video Cards or PC's just get hard and crusty but for some reason the founders 2080ti paste started to separate and was Clear and sticky like some kind of syrup and was causing the card to MASSIVELY over heat and it happened suddenly one day card was running cool and quiet then the next day the fans are howling and the temps are above 87c and 100% fan speed at stock clocks
So long as it stays we're it should it won't matter, but yes indeed graphene is conducive, to heat and electricity, if it's placed correctly and trimmed though it's not connected to anything electrically
I’ve had mine for 2 weeks and even having the fan at 100% all the time isn’t loud at all maybe I’m used to the fan noise of gaming laptops that I don’t notice how loud it is but I don’t think that’s the case
25x25 is slightly larger than the processor of the Steam Deck so even that would need to be cut down slightly. I say grab the 38x38 and cut a square out of it the size of the processor and you will have a bit extra you could use for another project.
Hi, i was thinking what if you used 3M high melting point glue around the APU to prevent the liquid metal from leaking into the cpu? Idk just a thought.
Awesome vid. Definitely gonna grab one of these frost sheets. Glad I didn't end up doing the liquid metal application on my Steam Deck. I didn't realize liquid metal needed to be replaced over time. Guess I'm gonna need to redo my CPU on my desktop. I did it about a year and a half ago... Is it time? Also I did the application on a delidded CPU direct die setup, for the record.
Can you do a Valve Steam deck replacement tutorials more like 2TB m.2 2230 std, gulikit joysticks, new cpu cooling fan, and tempered glass protection if you haven’t done it already?
Hello, I would like to know if a new backing I saw at a Store don’t know if I could say the name 😊 for Steam Deck it has like allot of “gills” I don’t now how to call them in the backing and all you have to do is take of the original and screw on the housing with gills and also comes with a stand in the middle of the housing. Thank You
The temperature only has a very small impact on the CPU's lifespan. Since the CPUs never go above 95 degrees Celsius and have protective mechanisms. Whether the CPU runs at 65 or 95 degrees Celsius has only a negligible influence, so it doesn't matter if the CPU runs for 20 years or 19.5 years. The failure rates of CPUs are very low, mostly other small components break before. That's why you can find many used working CPUs even years later, but old motherboards become rare. The failure rate of CPUs corresponds to the bathtub curve, a phenomenon which describes the failure characteristics. But CPUs can wear out and break down over time due to electromigration, so higher voltage does harm. (By CPUs I also mean GPUs and APUs).
@@kevinj24535 sorry to bother after a months time but you seem knowledgeable about this more then me an I'm also wanting the best for my system should I keep it stock paste? Or should I go with this pad?
I would like to upgrade my old and only laptop to that, wondering if they sell worldwide and if this can be used as the memory pads on the internal GPU and memories
Hi @UFDTech , Could you somehow make a test with the original steam thermal compound to see how the Liquid metal bonding to the cooler has changed the thermals ( if at all ) ? I thought that the bonded LM might have filled out some microscopic gaps ? Great VIDS, Thanks for the Interesting Content.
This test can't be done. You can't get the OEM valve thermal paste as they don't sell it or the heatsink replacement. You could try and find a similar thermal paste, but it won't be identical.
How is this holding up Brett? I'm doing a fan replacement on the steam deck because I still have the Delta fan, but i also picked up one of these ages ago and want to do them both at the same time.
I think I have a bad solder on my type c input that plugs into the PSU. I don't have any indicator light that it's charging, the device does not get warm, no fans are on, no vibrations from haptics, etc. Any advice?
I'm sure I either did something wrong or he did it better, but my deck ran hotter after installing the pad, ended up using Artic Silver 5 , idle Temps went down 4c with paste
@@TravisHi_YT I ended up using that and it worked well… I ended up trading my deck for a OXP mini 5800u and considering it was a even trade I’m happy with it… playing BOTW right now… but those pads sucked and paste just worked better…. It’s not like your removing cpu all the time anyway
I haven't found that LM needs applied over and over. Usually one more application after about six months is sufficient. At least that's been the case over the years with a couple dozen things I've used LM on. Also, I like to use silicone conformal coating around the die to seal in and protect the circuitry. Sweet video though. I love those graphite cooling pads in the right situations. And I can't believe I haven't thought about putting LM on my Steam Deck yet. Guess I have a project for tonight.
One thing I did to my laptop was to double the heatsink surface area. I did this by getting another heatsink for it (same model) and baking it so that the heat pipes separated from the fin stacks and then glued them together using thermal glue. This dropped my temps by a lot, allowing for boost clocks to stay constant on both cpu and gpu. Due to clearance, the bottom cover sits a bit tight, but it closes. The Steam Deck heatsink looks thin enough that you could try this and not have that much clearance issues. Linus did the whole external heatsink and fan mod, so maybe a simple mod like doubling the heat sink's surface area could help a lot as well.
I took the idea from this video: th-cam.com/video/WqWXr8HnZT0/w-d-xo.html. Before committing to gluing it, I used tie wraps to hold them together to test it and it worked. Then I removed the solder as much as I could to make it flat and glued them together and got a couple degrees cooler.
@@cianide99 ahhh that is pretty cool. I had thought a it something similar to this too. But didn't think about it in this way! I might have to take mine apart and see if there is any clearance for additional heat sinks
Nobody is realizing that under stress if you keep the fan speed lower, you get air flow where it is needed on other components. The engineers at Valve most likely worked out a balance of fan speed and air flow through the rest of the deck.
FYI: I'm from Portugal, bought 38x38 mm - Final price: $21.99 - My question, for personal use, if I buy thermal paste, wich I can apply every year, for 4, 5 or 6 years, will the paste be usable after this time? doesn't it dry, in the tube, whithout using it, for a year or more? Will let you know when it arrive from Sweden!?...
Eh to be honest if you conformal coat around the CPU and don't put too much liquid metal on it's fine, which if it's pooling thats too much, you should apply a thin coat to both surfaces and conformal coat around the die and then a little outside as well just encase a little bit does leak, the longvity thing is real though the liquid metal will get absorbed into the die and copper, nickle plating will slow this down a lot, but yeh, no not inside the steam deck. Also nail polish is a decent conformal coating which is easy to obtain from like a corner store.
I was just at micro center in my area yesterday an was gonna buy thermal pads was conflicted on the side I would possibly need now I know thanks a lot 🙏🏾
I'd use KPX instead since it works great even if there are airgaps in between the heatsink and the silicone die. I've used it onto my GTX1070 of my Sager NP9877-S and haven't replaced it since oct 2020. To clean the liquid metal as well, gotta apply abit of metal polish onto the paper towel for it to absorb most of it out alot easier than using alcohol.
@@MostlyLost What kind of thermal pads? I have a laptop and the only reason I never opted for them is because I have no idea how big they should be or what brand would be preferable, which would be my same reservations with using them on the Steam Deck.
Well that was unexpected! But also you should try to change your fan curve and see what temps are when the fan remains at that high rpm. You absolutely could get performance over quiet:}
I rely heavily on my Steamdeck and Series X to keep the temperature in my office above 70 degrees. I live in the mountains of VT and its -20 in the winter months.
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Also aren't graphine thermal pads electrically conductive?
@@Teksers
i was about to ask the same thing
Was thinking to grab this with discount but usage limit reached :(
@@SgtKickAzzYT 1:16
The fact they only ship one pad per box suggests to me that the buyer is paying for the packaging as much as the pad.
probably paying over 50% for the packaging itself lol.
Don't care about the pads, I wanna buy whatever you used to grow your hair instantly
Would have been a pretty funny keeps transition
I knew I was not going crazy
Same, I’m here for the hair
and his eyebrows too
He had to shave it all of because he caught crabs from a lady of the night, well he identified as a lady
I purchased this for my steam deck, and after doing so my games started stuttering, dropping to unplayable frame rates, and then over heating and shutting down. I've been working on computers and such for 25yrs. But this product unfortunately did not work for me. It also took over 2 months to recieve. Switch back to thermalpaste and everything works flawlessly.
This is great comment, you save me some money! :D and headaches, thanks!
Appreciate this feedback very much. I was seriously considering it, but I was also very skeptical. I've been in IT for about 20 years myself, and I try to stay opened minded to new developments, but I'm glad to hear from a peer on this issue and glad I wasn't taken in by the hype.
You're adding additional material in-between the heat sink and the SOC and the heat generated still needs to dissipate out.
100% you are better off with a good brand of thermal paste
How much did your temps go down from stock with the thermal paste?
@@TravisHi_YT they don't really. Luckily steam didn't cheap out on thermal paste during production.
Not a lot can be done without hacking up the shell and even then it's not really worth it. It's one of the downsides to small form factor
Ok, the jarring cut from normal Brett to horrible skinhead monster with a huge heart Brett was legit the highlight of my night, thank you Brett.
He cut his hair for his son who's sick
@@keepwatchingthat I know, hence the "monster with a huge heart Brett" part lol
I actually think he's pretty handsome in a weird way without the hair
@@colbyboucher6391 I don 't disagree, I think the eyebrows are the most distrubing bit, but in a... charming? sort of way. 😀
@@linkah Give the guy some slack. He is so busy he forgot to shave them.
The hair to no hair is quite the transition.
yeah, i had to rewatch that... its the lack of eyebrows......
0:35 jumpscare
You should try use PTM 7950 pads. It's good on direct die cooling. Works like a charm on laptops, might work very well on the steam deck as well.
Second this. About to order a pad of PTM but curious how it stacks up against this frost shield one
Yes!
@@JoshieKona how did it turn out for ya? Make the deck cooler?
@@JoshieKona update?
@@ihvdrm unfortunately the shell jsaux sent me wasn't flush with the body so they're sending me a replacement. I haven't been able to try the copper plate yet. But the aluminum plate gets nice and toasty so the copper should do well. Hopefully have a working replacement in about a week
Great seeing you try these pads. Been using pads for years and they made life easier, less messy.
uhhhhh…
i also have this on my og and oled steam deck and temps are great. even fan noise is down for me. and havent had any problems in over a year on my og and so far no problems on my steam deck oled.
So, something I haven't seen mentioned here is: when were those stock readings taken? Valve has made several changes to the fan curves since launch, so are we certain the RPM readings shown are an apples to apples comparison?
I was just playing a game on my Steam Deck, and the temps were at 79-83c-ish, and my fan rpm at 5000-ish, just like the video. It only ramped up to 6000 occasionally, when pausing weirdly. I wonder how much of a difference the pads really nice make.
Look at the power draw and the CPU frequency. Both scenes stress the deck in different way, so even if all the other stuff is the same, that comparision is flawed.
Hasn't normal thermal paste been shown to be better than these graphene pads?
Much better is subjective. Just watch Gamer'sNexus or LTT video's on graphite pads. Both go into detail that on lower wattages and for essentially normal use, it performs almost the same. When on higher wattages, the gap of performance widens, but still in ~5 degree difference territory. Don't ever plan on overclocking with it though. Make no mistake, (good) thermal paste will always be better, but by how much will be dependent on the use. Then there's the fact that it doesn't dry out and gives consistent performance for its application. For a one-and-done solution, a $11 name brand graphite pad doesn't seem that bad of an idea. I don't know much about graphene, but it's supposed to be better for conductivity than graphite.
Maybe one day they'll have these pads at worthwhile efficiencies, but for now, I think compound is better for most applications. I could see this being useful for some things, especially in a situation where you're testing multiple CPU's with a single heatsink, or multiple heatsinks on the same CPU. It would make sense to just use one of these pads. But any kind of permanent application, might as well just stick with thermal paste.
@Stein Mauer My guy. No one is going to argue with you on the price of good paste vs. pads. That's a point where there's no contest. I also said that of course good paste performs better, but by your statement of that it's MUCH better and SAFE, well, that's subjective and in some cases not entirely true.
I don’t know why you’re so brazen about this. Is 3 degrees considered MUCH better? Or 2? 2x conductivity, are you high? A simple bit of research shows the exact opposite of what you just said. Also, not all paste is non conductive. For the love of god, please don’t spread that around to people.
@Stein Mauer not all pastes are non conductive
Brett has trimmed off all his hair for cannonball for the cure. This must be Bret; the alternative alter ego host xD
Brett and Rhett.
What is the sheets rating in W/mK? Don't see it anywhere on their site. That price is OFF the chain high. Quality 12.8W/mK sheets can be had on sites for at little as $13 for a 3 pack of 100x100mm 0.5mm,1mm,1.5mm thickness.
Fun fact, fan power goes roughly by the cube of the speed. So going from 6000 to 5000 rpm is actually around 40% reduction in power.
And assuming that noise output power is linear with power (it's not, really, but good enough approximation), that's over 2dB of noise drop from the lowered RPM, which is definitely noticeable!
Neat little pad. Nice to see graphene entering the consumer space.
the fan needs so little power i am not ever sure if we get a minute more battery live
Are you sure it's not a graphite thermal pad? There's a huge difference between graphene and graphite thermal properties but how can you verify it's graphene or not?
Why not use thermal compound like MX4??
I wonder how ptm 7950 compares to the liquid metal?
This destroyed my steam deck
Would of been interesting to see what the temps would of been if u ramped the fan up to match stock paste rpm
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@@kirama5435 Bonjour
BE CAREFUL, although this drops cpu temps the temps of the surrounding components like memory are still producing the same amount of heat. These components are not actively monitored or cooled so a drop in fan speed will cause a jump in temperature from those components which are still producing the same amount of heat. Watch gamers Nexus video for more info
What's the size of the frost sheet for the Steamdeck?
Whatever you used on your hair, needs to become a sponsor!
What about ptm7950?
isn't that because of the lower clock speed? I have seen this sheet perform about the same as a good thermal paste, but not better.
@UDF Tech - How did you cut the Graphine - did you use a scalple or scissors?
I am willing to give it a try. I'm freaked out as it is with the AAA games hitting passed 95c. Was only 16 for me!!
@@mcbubbles2492 Yes report and forget.
@@mcbubbles2492 what’s a scam, I’m just coming in
@@bonkgameing who what?
Jesus that's gonna fry the GPU in less then half a year..
Can even take weeks to completely fry it.
@@ithildiess8305 it dropped some rpms on the fan but that was it. Waste of time and money. Ended up doing some extreme mods and my temps are barely pushing 65c
At this point I've done this mod myself and I believe I've learned something not stated in the video. The APU cooler has 3 retention arms which are labeled 1-3 and when I first installed the frost sheet pad I screwed the cooler down 2-1-3 which caused a whole bunch of mounting pressure problems. HUGE MISTAKE. Tldr: Screw the cooler down in the proper order otherwise suffer black screens due to bad mounting pressure.
I'm planning on doing this too I have a question how much did you cut off? Till it fits or overhang or what?
@@LordS20000 DO NOT.
@@LordS20000 this mod was a detriment to my Steam Deck. I got horrible temps and could've really messed things up if I kept it in there much longer.
@@jonathanscott555 well I guess I regret buying it then hhhh I'll just do the 1 tb ssd upgrade and the clear shell upgrade. What can I do with this graphite then? Haha
@@LordS20000 that's awesome check out this video to see what I've been doing. th-cam.com/video/wFUwRZfKh7w/w-d-xo.html
is this better than something like Thermal Grizzly Krayonout thermal compound?
Easier but not better.
I'm sure you have contact with sponsor of this video. Could you please suggest to put some reference sizes on the website? Like this will fiit ryzen cpu, Intel cpu etc. That would help a lot.
Hey bret cool vid man keep up the good work, btw do not expect to always be able to reuse that thermal pad, just finished fixing a friend's 5700xt it was massively overheating and thermal throttling when i took it apart it turns out it had a Graphiene pad and not only was it stuck on, it was no longer working, the 5700xt isn't that old, and it tore up when i removed the cooler. i had to scrub the cooler and gpu down pretty hard to get the residue off and then replace it with thermal paste and it was WORLDS better
Sure it was real graphene pad?
@@JavoCover all the Reference 5700xt's evidently came from factory with Graphene pads
@@ocularcavity8412 😐 Maybe not even them could test the card long enogh to know this.
@@JavoCoverYeah that is the tough part until a device is deployed for an extended amount of time you never quite know what will happen. less than 6 months ago i had to change the thermal paste on my Founders 2080ti and it was WEIRD. Normally none of my brand new cards have needed a paste change even ones bought way back in 2012 are still running strong, usually only need new past on used cards. Usually the paste on old Video Cards or PC's just get hard and crusty but for some reason the founders 2080ti paste started to separate and was Clear and sticky like some kind of syrup and was causing the card to MASSIVELY over heat and it happened suddenly one day card was running cool and quiet then the next day the fans are howling and the temps are above 87c and 100% fan speed at stock clocks
@@ocularcavity8412 Good we know our stuff, imagine leaving it like that.
How do these compare to ic graphite thermal pads?
how thick should these thermal pads be for CPUs?
Doesn't graphite conduct electricity?
So long as it stays we're it should it won't matter, but yes indeed graphene is conducive, to heat and electricity, if it's placed correctly and trimmed though it's not connected to anything electrically
Valve said it’s normal to reach such temperatures. I don’t know why everyone’s obsessed with steam deck temps
What size for the steam deck?
Your deck is hot and loud? I have had mine since like July 2022 and use it all the time, it's never loud or heat up
I’ve had mine for 2 weeks and even having the fan at 100% all the time isn’t loud at all maybe I’m used to the fan noise of gaming laptops that I don’t notice how loud it is but I don’t think that’s the case
Would it work (better) with the thermal paste still installed?
How do these compare with Honeywell thermal pads?
So, exactly what sizes would you need for the Steam Deck CPU and GPU?
its the same price just buy the biggest one and cut it 😉
25x25 is slightly larger than the processor of the Steam Deck so even that would need to be cut down slightly. I say grab the 38x38 and cut a square out of it the size of the processor and you will have a bit extra you could use for another project.
Hi, i was thinking what if you used 3M high melting point glue around the APU to prevent the liquid metal from leaking into the cpu?
Idk just a thought.
I literally thought he was cutting to bald him trying to ignore the fact he got cancer from touching liquid metal
Is a grahpine Pad better than a high quality thermal paste, like for example from Thermal Grizzly ?
I am the small part of the community that doesn't mind the sound... and enjoys the tiny heat fan that can warm up a cold nose out in the cold :p.
Nah jks lol
Awesome vid. Definitely gonna grab one of these frost sheets. Glad I didn't end up doing the liquid metal application on my Steam Deck.
I didn't realize liquid metal needed to be replaced over time. Guess I'm gonna need to redo my CPU on my desktop. I did it about a year and a half ago... Is it time? Also I did the application on a delidded CPU direct die setup, for the record.
I accidentally used liquid metal on a copper coldplate after I did the rocket cool copper ihs swap and fused the aio to the cpu.
Can you do a Valve Steam deck replacement tutorials more like 2TB m.2 2230 std, gulikit joysticks, new cpu cooling fan, and tempered glass protection if you haven’t done it already?
50% of the video was a liquid metal cleaning tutorial :D
Hello, I would like to know if a new backing I saw at a Store don’t know if I could say the name 😊 for Steam Deck it has like allot of “gills” I don’t now how to call them in the backing and all you have to do is take of the original and screw on the housing with gills and also comes with a stand in the middle of the housing. Thank You
I really wanna see the temps if you adjust the fan curve, I'm not worried about the fan speed/sound but the longevity of my CPU and GPU
Agreed. I just want it to have lower temps to save the apu
The temperature only has a very small impact on the CPU's lifespan. Since the CPUs never go above 95 degrees Celsius and have protective mechanisms. Whether the CPU runs at 65 or 95 degrees Celsius has only a negligible influence, so it doesn't matter if the CPU runs for 20 years or 19.5 years. The failure rates of CPUs are very low, mostly other small components break before. That's why you can find many used working CPUs even years later, but old motherboards become rare. The failure rate of CPUs corresponds to the bathtub curve, a phenomenon which describes the failure characteristics. But CPUs can wear out and break down over time due to electromigration, so higher voltage does harm. (By CPUs I also mean GPUs and APUs).
@@kevinj24535 sorry to bother after a months time but you seem knowledgeable about this more then me an I'm also wanting the best for my system should I keep it stock paste? Or should I go with this pad?
@@Katruto71 i want to know too
How many pads per box? I missed that info in the video
what size is this thermal pad? Screw it, I picked one up.
But how does it compare to thermal grizzly paste?
Can you do a comparison between frost sheet and kryronaut?
its not clear on whether or not we should remove the thermal paste before putting the sheet on
Does the ssd heat up or just the core?
Question is it anyway that you can fix the back light bleed on the stream deck??????
Do some googling, but I think there is a fix by tightening some screws.
We just gonna ignore that he went back n forth between bald and fill head of hair
I would like to upgrade my old and only laptop to that, wondering if they sell worldwide and if this can be used as the memory pads on the internal GPU and memories
Is this better to use on an Xbox 360 also ?
Hi @UFDTech , Could you somehow make a test with the original steam thermal compound to see how the Liquid metal bonding to the cooler has changed the thermals ( if at all ) ? I thought that the bonded LM might have filled out some microscopic gaps ? Great VIDS, Thanks for the Interesting Content.
This test can't be done. You can't get the OEM valve thermal paste as they don't sell it or the heatsink replacement. You could try and find a similar thermal paste, but it won't be identical.
How has the frost sheet been since you added it
So, I just lay it on top? Or is there an adhesive ?
Just lay
Flitz polish paste and a small sourer/sponge should eventually clear the copper and liquid metal up.
2:36 You can use the case it came with to place it facing down so you're not putting so much pressure on those thumbsticks. Just saying.
Is the deck running the same version of steam, proton, and the game? The improvement could also be related to software updates.
Bruh when he came in with no hair I had to rewind 😆
Just use normal high quality thermal paste lol, thermal pads will never beat good ol thermal paste, its just physics
The only advantage is pads last longer than paste before a re-application is needed. Otherwise yep, paste all the way.
The pad has one upside, it will never dry out so preformance will be locked in for the lifetime of the device
wich size did you use for the steam deck?
He used the 25x25 and then cut it to match size
How is this holding up Brett? I'm doing a fan replacement on the steam deck because I still have the Delta fan, but i also picked up one of these ages ago and want to do them both at the same time.
I think I have a bad solder on my type c input that plugs into the PSU. I don't have any indicator light that it's charging, the device does not get warm, no fans are on, no vibrations from haptics, etc. Any advice?
Email Valve, you have a year warranty.
Thanks so much, such help!! Would love to know the charity briefly mentioned 🙂
Can you please do a video doing this to the ROG Ally?
Hold up. Bro you cant just shave your head between frames and act like nothing happened. Got me good haha
"Because it is MY Steamdeck and I never put it back together" same, same
Are we supposed to open the PS5 and replace the liquid metal after 2 years? Hrm
Man his hair grew back fast. lol
I'm sure I either did something wrong or he did it better, but my deck ran hotter after installing the pad, ended up using Artic Silver 5 , idle Temps went down 4c with paste
I was wondering if Artic silver 5 would work, I thought I'd have to use something thicker because of how much movement happens on the deck
@@TravisHi_YT I ended up using that and it worked well… I ended up trading my deck for a OXP mini 5800u and considering it was a even trade I’m happy with it… playing BOTW right now… but those pads sucked and paste just worked better…. It’s not like your removing cpu all the time anyway
@@WilliamBrown-bg7vm Cool man, sucks to see your deck go. I think I'll give paste a go then!
My father always said, when they sell you a fancy box it's a fancy box full of nothing useful.
Crazy shape shifting 🤣👍
Good job 💪
The hard cut to bald head seriously blindsided me. Why are his eyebrows gone hahaha.
I haven't found that LM needs applied over and over. Usually one more application after about six months is sufficient. At least that's been the case over the years with a couple dozen things I've used LM on. Also, I like to use silicone conformal coating around the die to seal in and protect the circuitry. Sweet video though. I love those graphite cooling pads in the right situations. And I can't believe I haven't thought about putting LM on my Steam Deck yet. Guess I have a project for tonight.
I’ve never noticed my deck being particularly “hot &loud” most of the time it is inaudible and even at max fan speed it’s not annoying.
Same.
What is he putting the heating pad on?
graphene is electrical conductive... you should cut it to size! it's not a good idea to just place it on top of the SOC right on top of the resistors.
He is a noob.
One thing I did to my laptop was to double the heatsink surface area. I did this by getting another heatsink for it (same model) and baking it so that the heat pipes separated from the fin stacks and then glued them together using thermal glue. This dropped my temps by a lot, allowing for boost clocks to stay constant on both cpu and gpu. Due to clearance, the bottom cover sits a bit tight, but it closes. The Steam Deck heatsink looks thin enough that you could try this and not have that much clearance issues. Linus did the whole external heatsink and fan mod, so maybe a simple mod like doubling the heat sink's surface area could help a lot as well.
I need to see this done somwhere so I can do it too if it works!
I took the idea from this video: th-cam.com/video/WqWXr8HnZT0/w-d-xo.html. Before committing to gluing it, I used tie wraps to hold them together to test it and it worked. Then I removed the solder as much as I could to make it flat and glued them together and got a couple degrees cooler.
@@cianide99 ahhh that is pretty cool. I had thought a it something similar to this too. But didn't think about it in this way! I might have to take mine apart and see if there is any clearance for additional heat sinks
Curious if these are ok for CPU's?
They are
Nobody is realizing that under stress if you keep the fan speed lower, you get air flow where it is needed on other components. The engineers at Valve most likely worked out a balance of fan speed and air flow through the rest of the deck.
Sad that he didn't measure how much the sound was reduce, 1000rpm sounds like a lot but in terms of sound?
I wonder if you put it under a vacuum if the liquid metal would evaporate and evacuate via the vacuum pump...
Is this better than Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme?
man brett, your hair grows FAST
FYI: I'm from Portugal, bought 38x38 mm - Final price: $21.99 - My question, for personal use, if I buy thermal paste, wich I can apply every year, for 4, 5 or 6 years, will the paste be usable after this time? doesn't it dry, in the tube, whithout using it, for a year or more? Will let you know when it arrive from Sweden!?...
Mmmmm I would think if you had a little amount as very little left probably dry out but I'd you have a good size tube I would say it's good for years.
Eh to be honest if you conformal coat around the CPU and don't put too much liquid metal on it's fine, which if it's pooling thats too much, you should apply a thin coat to both surfaces and conformal coat around the die and then a little outside as well just encase a little bit does leak, the longvity thing is real though the liquid metal will get absorbed into the die and copper, nickle plating will slow this down a lot, but yeh, no not inside the steam deck.
Also nail polish is a decent conformal coating which is easy to obtain from like a corner store.
I was just at micro center in my area yesterday an was gonna buy thermal pads was conflicted on the side I would possibly need now I know thanks a lot 🙏🏾
yeah i had to roll back when the hair disappeared 36 seconds in.
I'd use KPX instead since it works great even if there are airgaps in between the heatsink and the silicone die. I've used it onto my GTX1070 of my Sager NP9877-S and haven't replaced it since oct 2020. To clean the liquid metal as well, gotta apply abit of metal polish onto the paper towel for it to absorb most of it out alot easier than using alcohol.
With the code it actually took it down to 12 bucks, with 2 bucks shipping to the UK. No brainer
@@MostlyLost What kind of thermal pads? I have a laptop and the only reason I never opted for them is because I have no idea how big they should be or what brand would be preferable, which would be my same reservations with using them on the Steam Deck.
What is the actual temperature difference?
82 Celsius is still insanely hot. Was it at 90celsius before?
the background is just "i have alot of spendable money" lmao
I like the part where they show me how to take it apart and apply it
Hahahah
Well that was unexpected! But also you should try to change your fan curve and see what temps are when the fan remains at that high rpm. You absolutely could get performance over quiet:}
I rely heavily on my Steamdeck and Series X to keep the temperature in my office above 70 degrees. I live in the mountains of VT and its -20 in the winter months.