2021 Toyota RAV4 Prime: The 302HP Crossover On and Offroad Review

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  • @MJKimball1
    @MJKimball1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +155

    I just bought mine 2021 Rav4 Prime - loaded XSE wrapped in Black. Let me know what questions you may have from an actual owner. I drive it 90+ miles a day. Few intial comments: It is a very nice handling SUV, has good power, and a great sound system. I already hate the lane assist (works sometimes), love the panoramic sunroof - and mine (after some miles) can get 42+ miles on a charge (enough for me to drive from Orange County to Rosemead). This is a solid buy - but mine was upwards of $60k with upgraded service warranties and being wrapped in satin black.

    • @drivingsports
      @drivingsports  4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Congrats on snagging one!

    • @hkcablebus
      @hkcablebus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      How much mark up did the dealer put on your deal? I am in So Cal and like to get one of this. Thanks.

    • @philipfreire
      @philipfreire 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Can we see pics of it wrapped?

    • @motosporttouring
      @motosporttouring 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      How far does the sunroof open, or does it open ?

    • @raiden000
      @raiden000 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      what dealer did you get it from? did you order it ahead of time?

  • @judyaustin8527
    @judyaustin8527 4 ปีที่แล้ว +395

    Dear Elon, please send all your batteries to Toyota so they can quickly build the vehicles that people really want. Thank you.

    • @MassiveDick
      @MassiveDick 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      We all wish that would happen but it probably won't

    • @superlight47
      @superlight47 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      😂😂👍You are funny, it be fun to see Elon do that, but we know he don't think like that. Was it not Tesla that make Toyota first RAV4 EV failed? if my knowledge serve be right Toyota Had team up with Tesla to bring the RAV4 EV to the market, but Elon keep the tech knowledge back that make his cars fast.

    • @robertpower09
      @robertpower09 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      They don't need Elon's batteries. They already have solid state batteries in development that will be announced at the 2020 Tokyo Olympics... in 2021.

    • @nonameyet2205
      @nonameyet2205 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Bruh, tesla battery comes from panasonic which already signed a joint venture with toyota

    • @user-tb7rn1il3q
      @user-tb7rn1il3q 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      noName yet Yes, Judy has it backwards. People don’t want pure electric cars in mass. Plug in hybrids and ICE range extended electric cars are the future until there is a battery breakthrough.

  • @autonewstv86
    @autonewstv86 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Another great review. I’ve had an EV, and the quiet ride is really nice. This RAV may not be an enthusiast vehicle, but I think Toyota has a winner here. They won’t be able to make enough.

    • @alanmay7929
      @alanmay7929 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The engine is already very light, batteries are too heavy and the rav4 prime has around 600 miles of range

    • @MusicLover4196
      @MusicLover4196 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This comment actually aged well.

  • @ronaldmail00
    @ronaldmail00 4 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    Amazing display of this cars capabilities. You know how to test sir, that beat the crap out all of them. That Rav would make my 30 mi commute all electric, so crazy Eco and capable.

    • @normt5463
      @normt5463 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      At 6:30 the rear wheels never spin on gravel.

    • @ronaldmail00
      @ronaldmail00 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@normt5463 why are you pointing that out? He said it did great compared to the hybrid rav4, crv. Even the forester. All those extra horses on the front wheels did the trick. The rear wheels did enough to get him out of every situation he had 2 wheels in the air. If it lacked, the front made up for it, with gusto with all that power. Was awesome.

    • @normt430
      @normt430 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ronaldmail00 while others will succeed on 3-roller test, all Toyota and Lexus small suvs will not because of brake based torque vectoring.

    • @ronaldmail00
      @ronaldmail00 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@normt430 he didn't do rollers, nor do I.

    • @normt430
      @normt430 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ronaldmail00 TFL Car does the roller test!

  • @wittyname9126
    @wittyname9126 4 ปีที่แล้ว +217

    I really appreciate the offroad testing even on something like this plugin hybrid.
    One small thing I'd like to point out is the 2.5 hour level 2 charge time requires the car to have a 6.6kW onboard charger which is only offered in the premium package exclusive to the XSE trim. Any XSE without the premium package or any SE trim will have a 3.3kW onboard charger which will charge in about 4.5 hours with level 2 according to the owner's manual.

    • @James-il3tq
      @James-il3tq 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Realistically very few people will be bothered to get a 240v outlet in their garage for a PHEV. Instead 12 hours charge time via 120v will suffice for most when they arrive home for the day. Fully charged and ready to go next morning 😊

    • @normt5463
      @normt5463 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      That almost US$50,000 for a RAV4 is ridiculous!

    • @kerrysongui9582
      @kerrysongui9582 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice Toyota ..that's what I say all the time is not the entertainment makes a car is Toyota get it ?

    • @wittyname9126
      @wittyname9126 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@James-il3tq I agree. For most people with a regular work schedule it makes more sense to use the included charger than to spend the money on installing an outlet and getting a level 2 charge cable. But for someone who makes regular trips after work or is stay-at-home and they're shelling out $50k+ up front for one with a 6.6kW onboard charger, they might not mind paying a little more for the convenience of being able to recharge around 16.8 miles per hour instead of 3.5 with the included 120V cable.
      Another thing I'd point out is if you live in a hot climate and are looking to recharge right away after having just drove it the charging system may wait until the battery has cooled off before it starts charging if it detects the battery is too hot. There is a built-in battery cooler that runs as needed when the car is on. This cooler can also be set up to run while the car is plugged in if it needs it but that requires a 240V cable to be connected for that to work according to the owner's manual. It might not be a big deal in most situations but I just thought it was worth noting.

    • @wittyname9126
      @wittyname9126 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@normt5463 When you factor in taxes, fees, etc. it can actually end up over $50k for a fully loaded one up front.
      Something to keep in mind though is that this qualifies for $7,500 in federal tax credit and some states also have incentives which will knock a bit more off the price too so you can end up closer to $40k for a fully loaded one and towards the low 30's for a less equipped one.

  • @timnear
    @timnear 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Really impressive video and vehicle. Great job, Ryan! I love the concept of having an EV when you want it but a hybrid as a backup for longer trips.

  • @jwkpov734
    @jwkpov734 4 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Impressive. Actual AWD Working not stuck when two wheels are on air. Maximum ability for regular daily driver.
    (Impreasive for Transverse mounted engine)

    • @normt5463
      @normt5463 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      At 6:30 the rear wheels never spin on gravel...

    • @WW-wf8tu
      @WW-wf8tu 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@normt5463 Deja vu.

    • @Slavik1109
      @Slavik1109 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am kinda disappointed that AWD isn't on all the time

  • @rightlanehog3151
    @rightlanehog3151 4 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    Once again, Toyota's new generation of Hybrid CUVs surpass our expectations for off road capability. Imagine what it could do without the burden of the silly, oversized rims and low profile tires.

    • @Anomize23
      @Anomize23 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      That electric torque 😎

    • @garnerlibato4887
      @garnerlibato4887 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      that HP and Torque helped a lot in the prime the XSE Hybrid struggled in this test.

    • @James-il3tq
      @James-il3tq 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The XSE did almost as good as Prime during same off-road test. I've had the XSE hybrid for a year and find it very capable during Canadian winters and summertime camping in mountains off beaten paths!

    • @rightlanehog3151
      @rightlanehog3151 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@James-il3tq 99% of people who bought a RAV4 Hybrid with their own money would NEVER take it up this trail. The RAV4 Hybrid easily meets my Canadian traction and towing requirements.

    • @normt5463
      @normt5463 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Welcome to 2011 Chevrolet Volt technology!

  • @reggieburris
    @reggieburris 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I like your positive energy during your reviews. Even when you have concerns you present them directly and not in a negative fashion. Refreshing!

    • @henriklarsson7835
      @henriklarsson7835 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Fully agree - great attitude, not the grumpy tester you so often find on Utube

  • @mls.design
    @mls.design 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    This thing is underrated heavily! I have beaten the sh*t out of one in Iceland, even nearly drowned it completely in a massive river.. but it didn’t let me down.

    • @joe1071
      @joe1071 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Classic Toyota

    • @Monkeyseemonkey79
      @Monkeyseemonkey79 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Underrated? It's the most in demand vehicle in the US.

    • @MVRWC
      @MVRWC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Toyota never lets you down. Never.

    • @JoeBuck-uc3bl
      @JoeBuck-uc3bl 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You “Nearly” drowned it? You’re not trying hard enough.

  • @Hawki777
    @Hawki777 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    You have one of the best technical and owner prospective reviews (subscribed).
    unlike most other reviewers that make their reviews more like car company ad.

  • @rondail5675
    @rondail5675 4 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    I watched the other channels reviewing this vehicle, you did the best!

    • @WW-wf8tu
      @WW-wf8tu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I never seen another channel run it up any dirt roads that is for sure.

    • @mosesezean820
      @mosesezean820 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not just this review, his reviews are very informative.

  • @oluwadarejoshua8595
    @oluwadarejoshua8595 4 ปีที่แล้ว +127

    I rather have this than an all electric vehicle

    • @quadpit
      @quadpit 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I agree.. We can run electric only for short trips or go on a 30000 mile round trip like any other car in our Chevy Volt, which is similar in hybrid systems, and have the best of both worlds.

    • @quadpit
      @quadpit 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Meant 3000

    • @TobyCostaRica
      @TobyCostaRica 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Jeff Johnson you must not be very familiar with Toyota’s hybrid reliability record.

    • @Lucky8s
      @Lucky8s 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TobyCostaRica
      He's still right though. A hybrid requires much more maintenance than an electric vehicle, which really only needs tire rotations. Versus a gas-only model, the hybrid components are a long term worry (10+ years but Toyota owners tend to go beyond that).

    • @TobyCostaRica
      @TobyCostaRica 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dennis Xu yes an EV will have less to maintain than ICE, but who is building them is a factor too. I have many Tesla owning friends that do much more than tire rotations. The maintenance intervals are greatly extended too giving you EV benefits with ability to do road trips.

  • @pianodarr
    @pianodarr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I have a 2018 Prius Prime and absolutely love it. Getting over 220 mpg and charging with home solar. 85% in EV mode, and that's with a 25 mile range. Have gone 25,000 miles with 113 gallons of gas (plus sunshine).

    • @normt5463
      @normt5463 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have a 2018 ct6 ye and see 366 MPG at 90% EV mode in April. On gasoline using the 2.0 T i see about 40 MPG.

    • @pianodarr
      @pianodarr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@normt5463 Neat. In gas mode I'm often getting 60-70 mpg, off the highway.

    • @cyndirosenthal
      @cyndirosenthal 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What solar charger did you buy?

    • @pianodarr
      @pianodarr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cyndirosenthal My home is powered by solar, 41 panels and Solar Edge inverters. Grid-tie. House electric is the same as normal. Car comes with a 110 charger, I also got an L2 3.8kw charger, plugs into the dryer outlet. They're about $325 now.

    • @cyndirosenthal
      @cyndirosenthal 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pianodarr wow I would love to go solar… next house I’m planning that investment. I’m not staying at my current home long enough to be worth it

  • @bonniekeller8744
    @bonniekeller8744 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I love my RAV4 Prime! I didn't buy it for the speed or AWD, but it's great to know it can go off road well. I grew up driving up roads like the ones in this video on a daily basis, as my house was in the boonies. (We had 1970's FWD Subaru wagons that made those trips just fine.) My 2004 Prius certainly wouldn't go (I tried), but this Prime will! Woot! Woot!

    • @DUNGSTA
      @DUNGSTA 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds like a waste...

    • @unclej3910
      @unclej3910 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@DUNGSTA I see you on other TH-cam videos trolling and making sarcastic remarks.

    • @DUNGSTA
      @DUNGSTA ปีที่แล้ว

      @@unclej3910 a lot of people are buying the prime and only using the electric and never tapping into the 300hp. It's very sad to see...

  • @AndroBoy17
    @AndroBoy17 4 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    Rav4 Prime will rule the world very soon

    • @normt5463
      @normt5463 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Except that they are limiting productuon...

    • @manuelias86
      @manuelias86 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      As long as toyota can build them... only 25k units between the rest of 2020 and 2021 combined

    • @fjalics
      @fjalics 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@normt5463 And limiting sales to ZEV states. This is a compliance vehicle, sadly. I'd still rather have a Model Y.

    • @normt5463
      @normt5463 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@manuelias86 they already cut production once and dealerships are already adding markups!

    • @eskieman3948
      @eskieman3948 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Now we see why you call yourself "AndroBoy"....

  • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
    @4x4.tests.on.rollers 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Soon RAV4 will be available under Suzuki badge. Wondering if Suzuki guys will re-tune this awd system...

  • @BatmanSpideyDa3rd
    @BatmanSpideyDa3rd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Can’t wait for the Lexus RX lineup to have the RAV4 EV system, but with a V6 😁

    • @skyrunr
      @skyrunr 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love Lexus. Lexus generally slopes and shortens the back end to make it much less usable/utility. They used to lease better, but now they're too over priced IMO.

    • @leivaandre
      @leivaandre 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Looks like they are not doing that but sounds good

    • @BatmanSpideyDa3rd
      @BatmanSpideyDa3rd 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@leivaandre Yeah…sadly 😭

  • @joshuahassol4717
    @joshuahassol4717 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Good review! At a few points you expressed surprise that the engine did not turn on while in EV mode. I'm almost certain that when the vehicle is in EV mode, as long as there is sufficient charge in the hybrid battery, the engine will not turn on, regardless of how hard you press the accelerator. By contrast, in "Auto EV/HV" mode, the engine will turn on in certain circumstances (e.g., hard acceleration).

  • @SanctumOfDreams
    @SanctumOfDreams 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You guys say 30k is a lot for a jeep sport which will offroad circles around this for over 10k less but 43k for something that burns its tires out going over a gravel driveway? Let's be realistic.

    • @drivingsports
      @drivingsports  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Plug in electrics are expensive just because of all the batteries. Relative to the cost of electric cars and other PHEVs this is a pretty good deal especially considering the versatility compared to options like the Prius Prime.

    • @Fusako8
      @Fusako8 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@drivingsports I own a 2013 Plug in Prius, and this thing excites me. I have two use-cases for it that need something more robust than my prius: Crawling up a twisting trail to the Opal bed at Richardson Rock Ranch outside Madras Or, and toting my 8" scope up to nice dark national forest land for stargazing. This looks like it will do all the latter, with better performance on the former.

  • @superlight47
    @superlight47 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Wow! I was not expecting it will do the rock trail in EV only, That is impressive. Just the prize is to high for me, so I have to stay with my choice with the regular RAV4 Hybrid.

    • @syton745
      @syton745 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      After 7500 tax credit the Prime should be on Par to the Hybrid

    • @superlight47
      @superlight47 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@syton745 Yes! But I am sure I have to pay the full prize up front before that tax credit is given. Is that not the way it work?

    • @syton745
      @syton745 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@superlight47 Yes you are correct

    • @superlight47
      @superlight47 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@syton745 That what I mean to expensive for me. I am not even sure the bank will loan me this much to get one.

    • @Ryan-yo4dg
      @Ryan-yo4dg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@superlight47 get a Jeep Renegade Trailhawk, it's more affordable and MUCH more equipped for off road terrain

  • @sunnyvalentino
    @sunnyvalentino 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This is an amazing all rounder and amazing acceleration, efficiency, ergonomics and reliability. That slope in the cargo floor would drive me nuts though every time I opened it as my kids stuff and groceries would just roll out

    • @Monkeyseemonkey79
      @Monkeyseemonkey79 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I own one and have honestly never noticed a slope or anything rolling out. I don't know if his wheel cover just wasn't installed correctly or if my rear rubber cargo tray solves it - but it's never been an issue. And I never put the charger in there - it lives in the wall of my garage.

  • @tanyakerd6849
    @tanyakerd6849 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was going to get it, but then I found out that the term of tax credit is "up to $7500 federal tax credit" not automatically $7500 tax credit and only apply if you owe taxes to federal. So basically, if you don't owe taxes for the year, you don't get any $$$ tax credit.

  • @adriandyer8004
    @adriandyer8004 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Enjoy your videos of the Rav 4. After your positive reviews I can’t wait for my “prime” to arrive.

  • @onilovni1234
    @onilovni1234 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Unless Subaru can give us a decent hybrid Forester or Outback, I'm buying this RAV4 prime next year.

    • @James-il3tq
      @James-il3tq 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      If you can get your hands on one. Less then 2500 for all of USA for all of 2021.

    • @Rough_estimation
      @Rough_estimation หลายเดือนก่อน

      And send me the balance so I can get some new sporty wheels

  • @erikpenabella599
    @erikpenabella599 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    In all of my Prime research, how did I not see this video from long ago? Anyhow, great review! This definitely gives me confidence in its off road capabilities. Not for extreme, like you said, but the occasional off the beaten path adventure. Can't wait for mine to arrive.

    • @rodrigogoytia925
      @rodrigogoytia925 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      slap some bigger trail tires on it and you can almost fully off road. EV's should be used in most off roaders these days because of the amount of torque they can handle.

  • @infinitenothingness
    @infinitenothingness 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have this 2021 Prime and can confirm it feels very quick from zero to 60, and also pretty quick from 60 to 100. The cruise control with lane assist makes LA traffic a breeze, and combined with the HOV sticker, it makes my Long Beach to El Segundo commute a breeze. I went with the XSE model with all the bells and whistles, premium sound, and full leather interior. By far the most fun car I have ever had. The 302 HP is really fun. It takes Dodge Chargers and Ford Mustangs off the line with no problem (except when they catch up at about 70mph, then the dodge charger or mustang drivers are irate that a tiny Toyota dominates off the line.)
    I can confirm that it is incredibly fun to drive. I tried to race my mom in her Tesla Model X in plaid mode, and I was left in the dust. So nowhere near as quick as a Tesla in Plaid/ludicrous mode, but can go much further on road trips; I can make it from LA to Marin County on a full tank without ever having to stop for gas ⛽️. Trail mode is also great for snow, and there is plenty of cargo space for 2 snowboards and all the needed gear.
    It should be noted that the fuel efficiency goes down a little when charging while driving, but it is a really great feature to have, but unfortunately can't charge the battery all the way to 100% (stops somewhere close to 95%).
    One final thing to note: I have had this a year, and after 100+ charges and discharges: my EV range went up from 42 miles to 50 miles in summer but can only get up to 45 miles in winter or cold weather charging.
    Overall, this car far exceeds my expectations 😮

  • @jasonsong86
    @jasonsong86 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think the traction control system needs more calibration in trail mode. Also, one thing that was not covered is does this vehicle have a camping mode which it allows HVAC to run continuously on battery. This would be pretty nice for a cold night of sleep inside the vehicle.

    • @MichaelHigdon-h4s
      @MichaelHigdon-h4s 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We now have 48,K miles on our Prime XSE, no problems whatsoever. Yes, it includes the 'camping' mode, enables HVAC and audio systems to operate without engine running. All accessories are electric, rather than engine-driven. Also, very neat feature here in the summer California sun, we can leave the dogs in the car when shopping or going out on errands; the AC can be turned on with the key fob. We come back to a nice cool car, even in the direct sun. Car is approaching three years old, and still charges regularly to between 47 and 49 miles; we have a solar system, so we don't have to pay San Diego Graft & Extortion rates ($.42 / kWh) to charge. Best car we've ever owned, and I've been driving for over 60-years.

  • @parttimetourist
    @parttimetourist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That thing in the middle of the dash looks like a stuck on after thought instead of being integrated

    • @swgrantimus
      @swgrantimus 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s what turned me off the RAV4. I found it incredibly distracting while driving as it took up too much of my field of view.

  • @oscarteran3642
    @oscarteran3642 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I want one. Too bad production is limited to 5000 units and reservations are currently discontinued until further notice. Who know when I'll be able to get a used one. Cheers from southeastern AZ.

    • @normt5463
      @normt5463 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, producers has been cut!

  • @labishrestha8808
    @labishrestha8808 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This car and all modern Toyotas have a major design flaw. They use soy based material in their wiring, which rodents love to chew on. My new car got a check engine light at 300 miles on the odometer. Turns out a major wire got chewed and it $5000 to replace the whole wiring. Even after replacing the wires, it will probably happen again. My 2007 camry was parked on the same spot for years and never attracted rodents. Toyota knows about this issue, but they keep denying it and still keep selling these lemons.
    Do not suffer what I had to suffer and stay away from newer Toyotas.

  • @hotrodmercury3941
    @hotrodmercury3941 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I feel like hybrids, in a few years will make fantastic work and outdoor vehicles. If you could, like the Leaf does. Make a entire campsite from your vehicle, then crawl into bed with AC. While the system does the work to get you there, let you enjoy nature and get back safe and sound. I see this being a great system with Jeep or Bronco. A "Base Camp" feature where people can charge their phone or laptop, but also save gas and have a cheaper version of AWD. Then using the car as a camper when the day is done.

  • @mrvang8077
    @mrvang8077 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Everything on the interior looks kind of cheap and plastic. Doesn't really look like it's even worth 45 grand. I've seen better quality interior vehicle for less than that.

  • @Wolfox360
    @Wolfox360 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nice video, but three suggestions you may try them out, (atleast on my car they work)
    1) Don't usea manual gears in sport mode, the CVT/PSD is way better avoiding gear change simulation.(sport, gear shifter in auto)
    2)Put in Sport before you Stop.
    3)When going down hill, move the shifter in to manual and select the first gear, the regeneration resistance will encrease and you can reduce and encrease the force with the brake paddle.

    • @andrewzhuk8713
      @andrewzhuk8713 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Didn't quite get first 2 points, but totally agree with the third one. Regulary doing that in my RAV4 Hybrid when going downhil.

    • @Wolfox360
      @Wolfox360 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andrewzhuk8713 That is better it does what is created for, doing the fake gears it's only slowing it down. For the other point, I just noticed in my car, when at a stop and you put Sport, it won't take off the same way as if you put in Sport before you stop and take off. Mayne My IS has a old logic :)

  • @MrWawer
    @MrWawer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Wow really best test ever. Thank you for testing again off road capability of this amazing car.

  • @TobyCostaRica
    @TobyCostaRica 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thanks for taking it off road and on the same course for reference. And congrats on the 100k the production quality is top notch.

  • @rhydynamic8306
    @rhydynamic8306 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    When will you be taking the Escape Hybrid of the Ford Explorer Hybrid off-road?

  • @grimacemcccheese
    @grimacemcccheese 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    This car is pretty much perfect

    • @James-il3tq
      @James-il3tq 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Except for slight sacrifice in handling with extra 400lbs over hybrid model, high price and extremely limited availability, otherwise I agree!

    • @normt5463
      @normt5463 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      And that you could pay close to US$50,00 for a RAV4!

    • @squirreldemon3506
      @squirreldemon3506 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@James-il3tq you get a tax break of 7500 so it might be cheaper than some of the hybrid models even.

  • @joshsutherland6687
    @joshsutherland6687 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    man you put a lp adventure 1.5 inch lift in that and some ko2 on 18s would be decently capable

  • @bryan1480
    @bryan1480 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Put the Falken Wildpeak's from the TRD off-road on that!!

    • @billybob7767
      @billybob7767 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      that's what was impressive, is I'm 99% sure he's running highway tires on this vehicle. Those do NOT look like All Terrains.

  • @joe1071
    @joe1071 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wait, now I'm confused. The internet told me the only acceptable off-road vehicle is a Jeep with an oversized V8 and manual gear box

    • @joe1071
      @joe1071 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wait, I forgot an enormous touch screen. There we go.

    • @drivingsports
      @drivingsports  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And the color brown. This is a must.

  • @fr373969
    @fr373969 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Very impressed, well done Ryan, forget about Model Y, Toyota please take my money

    • @eleanormassaro5195
      @eleanormassaro5195 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yuan-Jen Lee Toyota better really ramp up production of this RAV4 prime because this is going to be a extraordinary seller!

    • @alwaysiyi272
      @alwaysiyi272 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂😂😂

    • @normt5463
      @normt5463 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eleanormassaro5195 Except Toyota decreased production this week for the RAV4 Prime

  • @AccordionJoe1
    @AccordionJoe1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Three hundred horsepower in an SUV that was supposed to be a family transporter is insane. And if you want to go off road, buy a Jeep.

  • @ReubenHorner
    @ReubenHorner 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It is not an electronically controlled CVT... Drives me nuts. Its does not have a belt and is nothing like the unreliable CVT you and I hate. Look up toyota power split device

    • @TidewaterC
      @TidewaterC 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sorry but even Toyota calls it an ECVT, try again.

    • @miklossomogyi2283
      @miklossomogyi2283 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Colin because it is continuously variable. But it has nothing to do with the belt driven cvts. It actually has significantly less moving parts than any conventional transmission. Basically it is one single planetary gearset with 2 electric motors. It is a simple yet ingenious transmission which is extremely reliable

    • @andrewzhuk8713
      @andrewzhuk8713 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe, it is called HSD - Hybrid Synergy Drive. And E-CVT, as for me, is just a stupid marketing name created in order to provide some minimum understanding of what it really is. But actually it looks like a differential, where instead of wheels it has electrical motors on both sides, and on one side is also ICE engine, and it has output to wheels from ring gear.

  • @richardburguillos3118
    @richardburguillos3118 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nice review. Like your test track and that you use it for most all your testing. Thanks for the ride... I do wish they would let us pick rims and tires. Be nice to see a TRD Prime.

  • @andrewzhuk8713
    @andrewzhuk8713 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Defenitelly the best review on RAV4 Prime so far. And the car seems to be pretty decent! Hope to get one in few years 🤞

  • @STRAGGLER36
    @STRAGGLER36 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Starbucks? Really? The McDonald's of the coffee world. Why not try Peet's? At least their coffee won't give you indigestion or a sour stomach. What's that it tastes like well, really good coffee.

    • @drivingsports
      @drivingsports  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because we test cars everywhere and wanted to go with a common search valid in more places. Peet’s is good, but far less common.

  • @pepperyiyi
    @pepperyiyi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very very very nicely done review! Super helpful even for people like me who don't go off road lol Plus nice to see it being tested in WA as where I am at! Subscribed!

  • @shehroz6220
    @shehroz6220 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In my opinion, this is a much better option than electric vehicles.

  • @Offvalley
    @Offvalley 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks for this great vid! The new RAV4 is released here in Sweden tomorrow and you’ve convinced me to go to the dealer and give it at try! Might just bring one with me home :)

    • @AochTmukbang
      @AochTmukbang 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Vart det något köp? :)

    • @Offvalley
      @Offvalley 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not yet @@AochTmukbang, but I went there yesterday to try it once more. My first impressions were good, but I had some doubts regarding the infotainment system and the the quality, coming from Volkswagen.

  • @bbbt8090
    @bbbt8090 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This thing is going to sell like hot cakes!

    • @drivingsports
      @drivingsports  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      And, sadly, only 5k coming to the US this year.

  • @Albuermeduardo
    @Albuermeduardo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very impressive. It has the best of both worlds. I now wonder if buyers would go after this one and modify it rather than a TRD. Also, the last place is where I would love to see the long-term Outback being tested. Thanks Mr. Douthit

  • @PitboyHarmony1
    @PitboyHarmony1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I cant count the amount of reviews I just watched looking for just one answer,
    before you mentioned what I wanted to know, that no one else actually said;
    "The Rav4 Prime will charge directly from the gas motor"
    Everyone else sidestepped that and watched the battery drop and shut down.
    My question now is; Can I start with a near drained battery and run on gas on a highway,
    and charge the battery so it is full, when I get to a large city a few hours away?
    If this is a resounding yes ... I'm buying one. I have been waiting for that.

    • @putinsmoist3508
      @putinsmoist3508 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes you can do that. It has a charge mode

  • @RangerRickTV
    @RangerRickTV 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This or Subaru wilderness for climbing mountains ?

  • @nhuff73
    @nhuff73 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That’s a great price and tax rebate for that vehicle!! I love the looks of it too!

  • @amirchar
    @amirchar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What trail is this video on?

  • @BluePatch-pc7sx
    @BluePatch-pc7sx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Imagine this power train setup in a old jeep/ 302 HP and electic(QUIET) for BIGFOOT hunting.

  • @anthonylarocco6763
    @anthonylarocco6763 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Keep in mind this is a $60,000 vehicle, and it can only total 2500 pounds and seats five. However you can go and get a highlander XLE with leather and moonroof and beautiful exterior and interior which seats 8 people and Tows 5000 pounds, 0 to 60 in 6.7 seconds for about 39,000 to 40,000. Highlander really has it all.

    • @kirkstitt5184
      @kirkstitt5184 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This is a 44K PHEV vehicle, not 60K. We get 50 EV MILES ON A CHARGE. Our blended mpg is 130 miles/ gal. They are two entirely different cars. Highlander is a fine car, larger and more luxurious, and drinks more gas.

  • @billybob7767
    @billybob7767 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was originally eyeballing the Kia Niro Hybrid Plug-In, but I do love to go camping and shooting so a Rav4 Prime (even tho you lose 10mpg vs Niro) seems like an awesome choice, and with my aggressive driving on the road. All Wheel Drive would be a nice addition :) Plus these new Rav4's look A LOT better then say my moms 2014 lol

    • @rodrigogoytia925
      @rodrigogoytia925 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have a 2017 Niro Hybrid and I wish they had an AWD version because I really like it, but I also want a car that can take me places the Niro isn't capable of

  • @chrislee5679
    @chrislee5679 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Price went up significantly from when this video was uploaded. Now it's closer to $50k before taxes, destination fees, and markups,

  • @EVAddicted
    @EVAddicted 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I was excited about this car considering it for a family member. The first turn off was the price. Second turn off is that Toyota is planning on very limited production of this model. Looks like they are afraid that people will like it too much. 3rd turn off is that they just suspended already orders on it. This way it leaves a lot of space for dealerships to price gauge and makes it very difficult and unaffordable to get one!

    • @normt5463
      @normt5463 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, yes, and yes. Toyota doesn't want the masses in a Prime. Double power added are expensive to produce.

    • @gregdimas3011
      @gregdimas3011 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Damn it Toyota make more!

    • @ANTHNY29
      @ANTHNY29 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The battery supply chain limits the production of these vehicles due to Corona. But 5,000 modes for the entire model year is definitely a let down.

    • @yankkesrule
      @yankkesrule 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Production will ramp up by next year. Dealers will do what dealers will do. Toyota doesn’t control them. Battery supplier can’t keep up. Covid isn’t helping.

    • @EVAddicted
      @EVAddicted 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I started seeing already on cars.com RAV4 Prime in my area (Central Virginia). However the cheapest starts at $40k. Most are at $45-46k range!

  • @persaud101
    @persaud101 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think everyone forgets Toyota hybrid technology has been round for decades and be tested (prius, highlander, rav 4 etc)... They have close 20 years of data and experience developing these types vehicles. Not to mention they have tested fully for decades by the taxi industry fleets using primarly toyotas and toyotoa hybrids 24/7 around the clock for their drivers... Toyota is very scary competition.. Hybrid technology + realibility + fit and finish is tough to beat TSLA or not...

  • @ChuckRage
    @ChuckRage 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very impressive vehicle. Seems like the traction control takes a bit too long to figure out where to send the power though.

  • @passsacaglia
    @passsacaglia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Hybrid mode, better n faster engine and the extremely good fuel economy makes this a good pick! But the AWD, Eyesight and nice interior of the Touring makes it for me on the Forester. Still soo goddamn hard to decide. ps as an audiophile would you like the HarmanKardon mode best or the Toyota JBL? ps the different off road modes on Forester still better? 0.78 vs 0.49 the Toyota has much better fuel economy.

  • @MM-sf3rl
    @MM-sf3rl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’d had a short test drive in snow and ice in the RAV4. The traction control is no Audi. It’s flimsy and does not hold a corner well. But want to drive some more to get a better understanding, because this EV/Gas combo is the right direction.

    • @normt5463
      @normt5463 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      And you would think at almost US$50,000 this would be much better.

  • @danielwindsor5830
    @danielwindsor5830 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think this will become a very popular vehicle in Toyota's lineup in the next few years.

  • @drich5259
    @drich5259 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I totally thought that truck was going to merge right into the car...eeek

  • @62Sketch
    @62Sketch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2" lift and a set of Wildpeaks and you have an economical snow/trail blazer. The lack of articulation on these types of vehicles is almost funny. Drive over a 3 inch rock and you get 2 wheels in the air.

    • @hahsimalbeity3162
      @hahsimalbeity3162 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The trail mode of the rav4 is powerfull enough but the suspensions need to flex more

  • @paulc2548
    @paulc2548 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very nice! Love your review. Man, this would be something I see sitting in my driveway :).

  • @Floreypottery
    @Floreypottery 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The rav 4 we rented and took too tennesse from Michigan road amazingly and gas mileage was well above advertised it got around 40mpg even on hard mountain driving sucker went a whole week goin all over in tennesse couldn’t believe it’s amazing mileage

  • @Mr-Clark
    @Mr-Clark 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    V6 Rav4 owners have left the chat.

    • @fongsa1yuk
      @fongsa1yuk 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Almost perfect but I wish the prime tows 3500lbs like the v6 does.

    • @Mr-Clark
      @Mr-Clark 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fongsa1yuk If I'm going to be doing any towing, it'll be a vehicle with a frame.

    • @fongsa1yuk
      @fongsa1yuk 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mr-Clark But would you prefer your Rav4 to be capable of towing 2000 lbs ot 3500lbs?

  • @Road-To-Destination.
    @Road-To-Destination. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Toyota has a crappy AWD system. Would hav been better if they had copied subaru/audi or put a transfer case... Otherwise, no thank you.

    • @shadmansudipto7287
      @shadmansudipto7287 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This isn't meant for that. More cost, complexity and weight for what 99.9% of people are gonna drive on the tarmac.
      Interesting to see this video but you wouldn't buy one specifically for offroading.

    • @Prachka1
      @Prachka1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shadman Sudipto , AWD= all wheel drive. Toyota, amongst others, needs to learn what that means by looking at Subaru and Audi.

  • @dlg5485
    @dlg5485 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The Rav4 Prime is a seriously impressive package. Yes, it's a bit pricey but when you factor in the $7500 tax credit and the huge cost savings on gas (I can charge at work for free), it's actually not a bad deal. I will probably purchase one in about a year...if I can find one.

    • @aswang78
      @aswang78 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is the Tax credit ($7500) for the whole US or just a certain State only offers this? TIA

    • @dlg5485
      @dlg5485 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@aswang78 That is the federal tax credit, available to any US resident with at least a $7500 tax liability. If your tax liability is less, you would only get a rebate equal to your federal tax liability. Many states also have their own EV incentives that would be in addition to the federal rebate.

    • @SSatterberg
      @SSatterberg 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      These do NOT qualify for the EV tax credit. This is misinformation. I own one of these and they are great cars but they absolutely do not get $7500 off.

    • @dlg5485
      @dlg5485 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SSatterberg The Rav4 Prime absolutely did qualify for the EV tax credit at the time of this original posting, but then the law changed to only apply to US built EVs, so calm down.

    • @SSatterberg
      @SSatterberg 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dlg5485 at the time of my posting this comment the EV credit does not apply.
      So this video and your comment is spreading misinformation.
      So calm down and stop spreading misinformation.

  • @chrislake552
    @chrislake552 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a fully loaded XSE prime in sonic red. I truly think its the best vehicle on the market! Speed and power! Looks sexy AF too! Great vid showing off its capabilities . How much battery power did it use on the climb?

  • @chadhansen5057
    @chadhansen5057 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Your channel is something really special keep it up

  • @kavehoskoui8292
    @kavehoskoui8292 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good review! But these are not the tires to abuse the car with!

  • @AyrenJagar
    @AyrenJagar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Awesome video. Love the offroad testing. Thanks

  • @flashbang217
    @flashbang217 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    any commentary on availability? Great car but whats the point if the average person can't find one?

    • @drivingsports
      @drivingsports  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Only 5k sold for the first year. And I think that may be allocated already 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @witheredplants
    @witheredplants 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    this is finally my dream crossover.

    • @normt5463
      @normt5463 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      At a dreamy price for a RAV4!

  • @mr.b.3633
    @mr.b.3633 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is gonna be my next car and I´m switching from X3 to RAV4 ;)

  • @alexanderstefanov6474
    @alexanderstefanov6474 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is the best car to come out in ages, for ordinary people, not billionaires

    • @normt5463
      @normt5463 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      At almost $50,000...?

  • @cbinett
    @cbinett 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    KO2 225/75/16 with 10 plys should be a nice setup for offroad. Or maybe the KO2 245/75/16 can fit there but not sure.

  • @carfans6366
    @carfans6366 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    When is the next offroad review of your Subaru Outback?

    • @drivingsports
      @drivingsports  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In a couple weeks.

    • @Surfnpuff77
      @Surfnpuff77 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've tested the shit out of my 2020 Onyx XT on the stock tires and it's conquered everything easily as long as I have the clearance. 8.7" I'm able to do what ever my friends 4runner and tacoma can do so long as clearance permits. The AWD system is really impressive with the dual X Mode.

  • @ccengineer5902
    @ccengineer5902 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can I replace the engine with extra batteries and FINALLY GET AN ELECTRIC TOYOTA?! Jeebus almighty.

    • @gwot
      @gwot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      well... you can do that with every single car on the road now so... yes, yes you can.

  • @Ryan-yo4dg
    @Ryan-yo4dg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    17:00 you probably wouldn't smoke the tires if you aired them down 🤦

    • @gwot
      @gwot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm glad he didn't air them down. it shows the AWD system better that way.

    • @TobyCostaRica
      @TobyCostaRica 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You’re going to air down low profile 19s? 🤦🏻‍♂️ There’s barely any sidewall.

  • @anthonylarocco6763
    @anthonylarocco6763 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    According to car and driver this car does 0 to 60 in 5.4 seconds, it is definitely a sports car and faster than a Porsche Macan.

  • @ramonbaglari9714
    @ramonbaglari9714 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    8:26, that truck scared the shit outta me.

  • @nithishjvj8736
    @nithishjvj8736 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This thing has a 100 hp more than the hybrid CR-V which is it's most powerful version

  • @alinfini509
    @alinfini509 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    One of the Best SUV in 2021 !!!

    • @normt5463
      @normt5463 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ...that you cannot buy because it is over priced and not available.

  • @karthikv1212
    @karthikv1212 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This car is going pushing the envelope of possibilities same as Prius did in its early days. Toyota is pushing its limits and delivering on real world practical green cars. If only you could put this phev system on gas guzzlers like highlander, tacoma, tundra, gx, rx and lx.

  • @mohamedalihebboul2214
    @mohamedalihebboul2214 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very nice test, very impressive this Rav4

  • @InspiredJJ
    @InspiredJJ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Here in Pennsylvania we are waiting to see it in the snow ❄️!

  • @thejedaru1383
    @thejedaru1383 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Definitely exceeded my expectations. Hopefully this will be available in large scale next year.

    • @yankkesrule
      @yankkesrule 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Production is supposed to ramp up into next year

  • @paulholterhaus7084
    @paulholterhaus7084 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I STILL prefer Subaru's FULL time AWD.........Mud or snow or just even pulling ALL the time..........Best There is..........Anxious to see what Subie's coming PHEV will be like....Paul

  • @linuxkernel4.199
    @linuxkernel4.199 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    lmao! they made it sound like the jetsons in reverse HAHAHA

  • @marklykens7450
    @marklykens7450 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Will one tank of gas charge the battery to full? Start on Batt power for 42 miles, drive until the gas is empty and finish on 42 miles of EV at the end?

    • @drivingsports
      @drivingsports  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It actually charges fairly quickly. Nowhere near a tank to recharge.

  • @valdius85
    @valdius85 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Toyota closed the orders for RAV4 Prime for 2020. They sold all of them already. At the same time, CR-V struggles in Japan...
    The rear e-motor has access to more juice from the bigger battery, so it can deliver all of that torque more often without the help from gasoline engine to provide additional energy.
    It also comes with a spare tire!
    It might be my vehicle in the future, although Adventure is better suited for my needs.

    • @jeanblezin7091
      @jeanblezin7091 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sold already! Are you sure about that?

    • @teranfethril4373
      @teranfethril4373 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jeanblezin7091 only in japan closed orders (got 300 cars)

    • @normt5463
      @normt5463 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jeanblezin7091 Toyota cut production of the RAV4 Prime this week.

    • @jeanblezin7091
      @jeanblezin7091 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@teranfethril4373 ok thanks a lot...

    • @jeanblezin7091
      @jeanblezin7091 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@normt5463 Thanks kuz. I guess I am not gonna be able to buy one...

  • @alwaysiyi272
    @alwaysiyi272 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I knew it was going to be fast but I didn't expect it to be that quick, the RAV4 would smoke most modern cars from a stoplight, and is it me or are those rear tires really wide

    • @James-il3tq
      @James-il3tq 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      235s. Hybrid models get 225s, gas model's have 225 or 235s depending on trim. But the rims on this XSE Prime are SICK!

    • @normt5463
      @normt5463 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@James-il3tq Doesn't matter as at 6:30 it couldn't spin thr wheels on gravel!

  • @ScramJett
    @ScramJett 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great video! I was really surprised by the Rav4 Prime’s hill climbing. After watching AlexOnAuto’s review of the Prime, I was a bit disappointed how weak the rear axle motor was but it seems as if Toyota actually has made the most of it. The hill climb really impressed me. I did like Alex’s “roller” test, but his off-road test isn’t as extensive as yours was. I may come here more often for off road reviews (particularly if my wish comes true and we see a Highlander Prime or even…dare I say it…a 4Runner Prime!).
    Just out of curiosity, where is your test track?

  • @aldoraine9949
    @aldoraine9949 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Close to 40k base model plus dealer markup you'd easily end up paying well over 50k out the door. May as well wait for an off road worthy tesla