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Good talk...thank you! I have both springers and cockers and am a avid AKC spaniel field trialer on the west coast. I have also played to a lesser degree in HRC retriever tests as well as AKC spaniel hunt tests with my field trial dogs. Oh by the way my husband guns AKC spaniel field trials and loves to wear a tie 😊

We own all field bred dogs. A springer, a golden and a Labrador. I’m happy you guys touched on the subject but didn’t get really down in the weeds. I really don’t even like calling a retriever a flushing dog. I tend to think a retriever is a retriever. It’s never been bred for the intense flush. So, retrievers aren’t pointers or flushes there are ones the flush and ones that will hold a point but they are retrieves. I’ve seen pit bulls flush, they aren’t really “flushers”.

Great podcast - Josh is the man!

You're so right the dog only knows what it was taught.

Cool to hear pat Stuart get a shoutout! His seminar a few months ago helped really change how look at dog training.

Knocked it out the park again!

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Good interview! The yard work part is very similar to how I bring my field trial Spaniels (cockers and springers) along. The bird work is the last thing we do and then try to push them hard. I do feel the people that live in a area that can do most of their training on birds from the start have a slight advantage at the trial field. We do catch up as we put more birds on our dogs and our training is top notch so we win on that count.😊

Yay Josh! Good to see ya!

Really enjoyed watching this series! Just finished a traditional force fetch with my puppy and wish I would have have watches this before so I could give it a shot. Guess I will have to wait for my next puppy.

Interesting conversation. Pushing a dog with the collar on low level is something I rarely do except during the force fetch stage. I have used the collar for lack of effort which is more of a pushing into the behavior but is something I have for the most part avoided. I am curious at what point (if ever) you stop pushing with the collar? I am wondering about the aversive fallout of this system I suppose. I have multiple field trial dogs (Spaniels) so leaning on the collar going forward is not an option. My dogs always wear the collar when training but for my finished dogs I may hit the button once every 3 or 4 months or more.

Thank you! This was a very helpful video.

You have been zeroed

I’m interested in training my dog to go duck hunting with me, I’ve seen a lot of very aggressive force fetch training videos, this video is obviously not one of them, but I am confused a bit. Why are we using negative reinforcement before asking for a behavior? I understand if he’s not dropping, give a correction, but before asking for a fetch, he’s not doing anything wrong, I don’t see why he needs to be corrected?

5 minutes, no words, and he went from barely sniffing your hand to sitting and making eye contact with his muzzle in your hand. Awesome.

Carmen Battaglia created the "Superdog" program that ENS is borne from. He bred GSD. I believe he is still around.

Thanks for the podcast. Just wondering what happens when the e-collar fails? Will the dog still listen?

Hi from Germany, I'm a new subscriber to your channel. I have learned so much in the last videos and podcasts and I am really happy that I still have so much content to catch up on. I wonder if the "Force Fetch" program is useful for all dogs even if they actually like to fetch and bring. The theory behind it definitely makes a lot of sense. I think it's a pity that nobody teaches this system here.

Great episode, Nick. A lot of great info covered! -100% agree if considering breeding, one of your first questions should be: "Is my girl dying a risk I am willing to take for this litter of puppies? What are these puppies bringing to the breed as a whole?" Real life isn't a Disney dog movie. -I think we are really in the infancy of learning the potential of puppies. Pat Nolan and his "Retriever From The Pup Up" program is really impressing me. I'm watching a friend with a now 5 month old Golden do some pretty amazing things. From 8 weeks old and on, he was started on the ideas and concepts of marking, running "blind" retrieves and casting/handling. A lot of the old guard would say not to really do anything much with him at all until he is 6 months old and can start formal obedience and force fetch, etc. Instead this dog is looking waaaay out there for things to go pick up, is way ahead of the stereotypical puppy in regard to retrieving, delivery and other big dog concepts. It's very cool stuff.

This was awesome ❤. Great stuff

I would love to find this kind of training here in Germany! So nice to see!

Danielle is so cool. I’ve seen a lot of great stuff with her in it, and always enjoy listening to her culinary expertise. Great conversation. Thanks for posting.

Could you do this without the treat and train? Just toss kibble?

This is absolute GOLD. I am 2/3 of the way through but this is such a fantastic podcast discussion- Justin has such a way with words to explain very complex things in such simplified terms that anyone can understand. The way he CONSISTENTLY takes the dogs perspective into account & how to leverage that-the birch oil is SO COOL. What a cheat! Can't believe this is free 😂 Thank you guys for an amazing and valuable podcast ❤

Until the cost comes down, buying from local farmers is never gonna be the norm or attainable by very many people. I raise my own hogs as I need to stock my freezer, I raise my own beef from time to time to stock my freezer. Faith and I hunt and fish for nearly every creature out there and stock our freezer. It's a job to keep enough meat stocked away from year to year. I reality very few people do this because of the time and effort required. They believe it's easier to earn money and just buy that meat. The issue for Faith and I is what we know about healthy foods. We can't buy from your normal grocery stores. We also can every vegetable and freeze what can be can easily. It's nearly a full time job to live self-sufficient. The cheapest way to buy beef I have found is knowing a farmer and going to the stockyard on the day he is carrying a load of his healthy cattle to sell and buying that animal and having butchered the way we would want. We average $4-$5 per lb doing this on occasion. There are many solutions to healthy meats.

Recapping the Recap: -Extra appreciate the video versions of the podcast Nick, great production quality. -Merch turned out great, I've got a shirt on the way - black of course because all shirts and Labradors should be black! -We need a video tour of the new truck camper setup, obviously. :D Looking forward to that. -The run of bad luck always sucks in the moment, but makes for stories to tell down the road once you're on the other side of it! Short of serious injuries for dogs, humans and vehicles, I think the (paraphrased) saying "Ships are safer in harbor, but that's not what ships are built for..." applies. Kudos for your good attitude about it all. -It was a big shift for us being midwesterners to start spending time out west and realizing the importance of high quality, durable tires, tire repair tools, a good air compressor and an extra spare from the junk yard or craigslist if you've got the space! Good work having that emergency jump/air gear! Vehicles can take a beating on long road trips that's for sure. Thanks for all the podcast efforts as always!

New subscriber here. I’m not a hunting dog owner or enthusiast (I like them though). I’m glad I found your channel. This applies to many avenues of training working dogs also and just dog training overall. Great content!

Would love to have you join Faith and I on a hunt, we will drive though.

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Why don't you use a marker word?

Nick, GDIY gets better every episode I think. I started listening as an opportunity to hear more dog training content, but you have really surpassed my expectations in how curious you are and how willing you are to hear, discuss and comment on training theory and methods that are contrary to the "sacred cows" of dog training tradition, even if they aren't methods you (or others) find work for them moving forward. I feel some real kinship there as a person who has used many tools and many methods looking for answers in my own dog training/owning journey. At times it can be very difficult for others to understand or accept a position of: "I have no issue with you using Method X, I think Method X is probably the most effective method for the gundog space currently...but tell me what else is out there because I'd be happy to never use Method X on another dog...I'm here to learn." Keep up the great work!

Ariel Peldunas is the best.

Love you too, Nate! Great podcast, guys!

Do you have any videos or discussions about working with dogs with noise sensitivity?

@22:52 I absolutely agree!

Went to the seminar they are talking about in video. Easily worth twice what I paid. It’s a lot to digest but luckily you get to keep the homework/read ahead info to go back and look at it with new eyes, which helps someone like me out a lot. Read, learn via hands on, read again and then I can really start applying with a real understanding of what’s going on and not just going through the motions of what someone else outlined for me.

Hmmmm complex

I found out about Justin about 6 months ago. I’m a huge fan!! Anything Justin I’m watching haha

Question, - - my dog is free-shaped to fetch up the item, bring it to hand but is mouthing and not always holding it for a period of time. My concern is the amount of mouthing/rolling/biting the item and trying to not reinforce a bad habit. Typically you would extend the duration of the hold, name the behavior and then introduce all the types of items you'll work with at this time (if I understand your video correctly) before moving to the table. Because of the mouthing, should I just move to the table at this point to work on the mouthing/rolling/biting? Thanks.

Bell Bowl Prairie's loss is heartrending. It's insanity. We talk out both sides of our mouths. We need this habitat, but nobody wants to speak out when development or production agriculture is the one doing the destruction. Regulation of these industries and a ROBUST program to purchase remnant prairie and wetlands and restore degraded properties needs to be a priority.

Thank you gentlemen for sharing your knowledge. I’m really enjoying your channel.

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I learned marker/clicker training from a lady with Mals almost 25 years ago. I was 15 and still learning how to learn so my results were mixed because my consistency/timing were mixed. I have a 17 month old Braque Francais now, and I started her with the clicker the day I brought her home. I was planning to force fetch this winter after the season, but I couldn't help but see what she would do knowing she was a perfect candidate for this because of our initial work. Guys... this will fundamentally change the way force fetch is done; It just makes way too much sense. messed around for a couple of mornings with targeting and progressed to fingers in mouth yesterday. Started there this morning, and 6 reps in went and got a PVC pipe. She reached and mouthed it on the 1st rep and by the 4th she held for probably 3 seconds and I paid out jackpot and we ended on that. It makes sense to me and so it will work for me. I might walk it back and look for longer holds before I go back to the PVC pipe, but she's getting it and it makes sense to her, too, which is definitely the most important part. FYI I Taught a release with the clicker too after the "Tug" episode (243 I think?). We'd tug and when she released, I'd click and give it right back. It was the fastest thing I've ever EVER taught a dog and an UNREAL experience to watch that lightbulb turn on for her. She loves to work and she LOVES to tug, but you say "give" and it's a super clean release. Thank you both so much for the work you're doing. I'm not exaggerating when I say this will change the Force Fetch experience for so many people and their dogs!

When he says ‘wrong’, is that his no reward marker? Or is he only saying it for the purpose of the video?

Does anybody remember the full name of the Paul guy that they mentioned?

Thanks gentlemen

This is gold brother, thank you.

Top notch information right here!