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Jonny Say Therapy
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QA October 2024 - Setbacks, Hopelessness, Ongoing Hyperarousal
This is a selection of great questions I got for the monthly ACT and ERP skills group that we run at www.integrativecentreforocd.co.uk. We cover dealing with setbacks and big OCD spikes that cause hopelessness, ongoing high anxiety/hyperarousal and more...
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Summary of ACT Skills and ERP
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This video runs through the training sequence that I use in therapy and my courses for OCD recovery. It is a summary of the key ACT and compassion practices, the levels of ERP and other considerations. If you are interested in this approach see www.integrativecentreforocd.co.uk for info on therapy and courses
What if I Believe My Existential OCD?
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This was a response to a great question about difficulties experienced when existential OCD or depressive thoughts seem to be true and we start to believe them and it makes recovery more challenging. www.integrativecentreforocd.co.uk/
Mental Testing and Taboo OCD Themes
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In this video we discuss a question around mental testing and physical testing compulsions in Taboo OCD Themes. We discuss how this process shows up in all OCD themes, how the compulsions backfire, mechanisms that confuse people and recovery methods for working with this difficulty. www.integrativecentreforocd.co.uk
Noticing vs Checking & Monitoring Compulsions
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Here we discuss the difference between ACT 'noticing' and 'acknowledging' skills and 'checking and monitoring' compulsions in #ocd . This is from our monthly ACT and ERP skills review group www.integrativecentreforocd.co.uk/low-cost-ocd-groups
ERP from Acceptance vs Control Agenda
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This video discusses different ways of approach ERP, from an ACT skills based vs controlling symptoms agenda (and the potential pitfalls of the latter). www.integrativecentreforocd.co.uk/low-cost-ocd-groups
Stress, Urgency and OCD
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This video answers a question about OCD recovery, when people are doing better but stress and urgency can pull us back into the cycle. It discussed what we can do to counter this common difficulty... This is from our monthly ACT Skills for ERP and OCD Recovery group for all our clients and people who have attended the 10 week course www.integrativecentreforocd.co.uk
OCD Holding Me Hostage
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This video discusses how OCD can metaphorically hold someone captive by threatening intense emotions or catastrophic events if we challenge it with ERP. This is from our 10 Week Course, ACT Skills for ERP and OCD Recovery www.integrativecentreforocd.co.uk/low-cost-ocd-groups
ERP & ACT Practice Barriers
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In this video we discuss the concept of ERP and ACT practice barriers and how to work with them. The podcast I reference is th-cam.com/video/0dKXEqJa4gA/w-d-xo.html . The video changes as the phone recording dropped out, so we switch to the zoom recording. This is from our 10 Week Course, ACT Skills for ERP and OCD Recovery www.integrativecentreforocd.co.uk/low-cost-ocd-groups
OCD Disrupting Values
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In this video we discuss a question regarding how to deal with OCD 'attacking' or disrupting values based choices and goals. This is from our 10 Week Course, ACT Skills for ERP and OCD Recovery www.integrativecentreforocd.co.uk/low-cost-ocd-groups
Remembering ACT/ERP Skills When Triggered
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In this video we discuss a question regarding how to remember ACT skills in life when we are triggered. This is from our 10 Week Course, ACT Skills for ERP and OCD Recovery www.integrativecentreforocd.co.uk/low-cost-ocd-groups
Taking 'Risks' in ERP
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In this video we discuss a question regarding what to do when it feels like we are taking risks in ERP. This could be related to Harm OCD and other subtypes where we feel we are placing others in danger by not doing the compulsions and that keeps the OCD cycle going. This is from our 10 Week Course, ACT Skills for ERP and OCD Recovery www.integrativecentreforocd.co.uk/low-cost-ocd-groups
Social-media Wellbeing Advice and Anxiety Disorders
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Some thoughts on #anxiety management advice on social media, what to be sceptical about if you are experiencing #anxietydisorders, the difference between using techniques for health and wellbeing vs maladaptive emotional control strategies
False Memory/Real Event OCD
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In this video we discuss a question regarding acceptance with False Memory and Real even OCD, what are we accepting and what helps with recovery. This is from our 10 Week Course, ACT Skills for ERP and OCD Recovery www.integrativecentreforocd.co.uk/low-cost-ocd-groups
Sensorimotor OCD, Body Sensations
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This video explores OCD themes and sensations - Sensorimotor OCD, Intrusive Body Sensations, Checking and monitoring compulsions and more. This is from our 10 Week Course, ACT Skills for ERP and OCD Recovery www.integrativecentreforocd.co.uk/low-cost-ocd-groups
Do I Really Need to Accept Uncertainty?
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Do I Really Need to Accept Uncertainty?
Fantastic help Jonny, thank you
Great stuff Jonny
Meditation is something you do after you have followed, for a long period of time, the precepts and sorted out your basic ethics and morality. In the west you all jump into meditation with all your wrong-mindedness, vices, habits, and unscrupulous volitional activities intact. Then you wonder why your minds crack when you force it into a mold into which it cannot possibly fit. You need to prepare the vessel before you fill it with meditation practice. Leave meditation until you have studied Dhamma, understood deeply the core philosophical concepts, and you are living a virtuous life free of intoxication, sexually wrong behaviour, lying, stealing, and harming. Then, approach meditation. Namo Buddhaya.
What a brilliant balanced and compassionate video, thank you
Feels so real...I know that feeling. I found out I had OCD when I was 15, and it didn't make sense to me, because I always thought OCD was just silly stuff, like repetitively checking things, being a germ freak, and organizing/arranging things a certain way to your preference. It never would've occurred to me that OCD can be pretty dark. SO many times in a crowded place, my younger self wanted to shove people out of my way because they were invading my personal space and access (though I never did it). Once, it _felt_ like I attempted to risk an old woman's safety when I thought "screw it" and went ahead past her. Immediately I felt guiIty. I didn't bump into her and she was fine, but the possibility that I took the risk---it felt so real. Did I _consciously_ plan it out of frustration? Or was there a conscious/subconscious confusion *_in the moment?_* I would NEVER hurt an elderly woman; I would've apologized immediately if I had knocked into her and helped her up. I felt like a bad person. It made me wonder if I would grow up vicious and shove people or hurt them. I'd had my thoughts in the crowds, but they were self-venting in image. Now, I'm just confused. OCD is both comedic AND dark? Sometimes you're worried about something silly and lame, sometimes you're worried you did something eviI? The combo for a disorder is just so random and contradictory.
I found out that struggling with more concrete threats like a possible new world war, climate change or ressource extinction is difficult to handle, at least for now, I wonder if there is a special kind of OCD about existential threats
I’m so lost please help me. What therapist specifically should I get for this? I fear I did something irreversible after a retreat and like you said extremely un grounded. I’ve been looking into CBTp but they specialize more in psychosis like, I’m very aware of what’s happening to me it’s just out of my control unlike psychosis :(
Cheetah Housr is a good place to go. If you look for a CBT therapist who is experienced in trauma and anxiety disorders is often good start
@@jonnysaytherapy thank you :(
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Thanku very much sir, you helped me a lot , I just have 1 question I am slowly recovering from my Existential OCD I can see that but from past few days i have been too much obsessed about OCD videos what should i do about it
I would practice gradually reducing the time spent engaging in ocd and psychology content and increase the time listening to other material you value related to hobbies, interests, comedy, music etc. aim to get ocd material down to 5-10% of what you listened to and values based content up to 90%
It's not that some of our thoughts might be true, but how workable are they to our lives in the moment. ACE...huge influence RH has had. 😊
Totally, I’ve learnt so much from Russ, happiness trap was incredibly helpful when I was in a lot of pain in the past
Thank you so much for this video ❤️
I’m glad you’ve found it helpful and thanks for the feedback
Thank you. Scarily, the more I read and watch about it, the more I realize that my OCD extends to many more thoughts, behaviours, considerations that I have than I ever imagined- I generally played down OCD symptoms for the last 12 or so years of my life, until I was recently formally diagnosed with it, but now wherever I look I find more new things, such as this "existential OCD" that I just thought is me being reflexive and curious (and anxious about it)
It can be common to have this experience and I guess we need to remember that anything can become compulsive depending on the function. If the function is to get certainty, avoid or control difficult emotions and feared consequences then we can become ruminative about anything. Whereas thinking creatively, problem solving with acceptance in the service of our valued life direction is a very different function. It’s why it’s important to practice defusion and tools like dipping in and out of the stream so we can catch when thinking is becoming compulsive and get out of the thought loop and back into our lives…
The more work I am doing on my recovery, the more I understand just how brilliant you are in this practice; my brain has intensified the more I am doing the work, and I am learning even when I can't defuse, it's okay, I can continue through the discomfort, through the uncomfortable, the goal is not to get rid of it. My brain has thrown depersonalisation and derealisation, panic attacks, and anxiety attacks. It's all the same: acceptance. I love how you even address that resentment becomes a compulsion, anger becomes a compulsion, and we are fighting and creating more and more suffering. I refuse to give in to OCD; I do not need certainty in life. And thanks to you, Jonny, I am seeing that more and more, and I am okay if OCD comes in total volume tomorrow, it's a part of the journey. And I will say this openly: I have experienced EVERY SINGLE THEME. The themes do not matter, it is all the same. Sticking to the values repeatedly , dedication, loyalty, commitment , adventurous, loving, and living, to name a few. Also watch out for when your brain says you do not need to practice skills, often its OCD wanting you to back down, get back to the skills and practice and practice Thank you Jonny
That sounds awesome Shaun. It seems that you’ve been putting in the hours of practice and applying your skills in the moment and you’re starting to get momentum in your recovery. That’s so brilliant to hear and I bet you are far more connected to your values as you deepen these breakthroughs. Keep your incredible determination going, keep the self-compassion flowing and thanks for sharing to inspire others in their hard work
From the age of 19 I had an intrusive thought of “what if I am gay” since then through constant self testing I began to over time develop the arousal and even attraction feelings that I didn’t want yet the only thing missing is pleasure which reminds me that this isn’t what I want yet when I get caught up in the testing I get so confused because the feeling I don’t want seem to happen when at the beginning I was getting reassurance from these tests it’s just so distressing how it all came from one doubting thought that opened up this conversation in my mind which has taken on a life of its own
You have articulated really well why all ocd compulsions backfire from giving reassurance to eventually confusing and giving more doubt and distress. Set yourself the challenge to work on reducing the mental compulsions (see the ocd skills playlist on this channel and particularly defusion, dipping in and out of the stream, values based exposure) and see what happens as you let go of trying to solve the problem and instead refocusing on life goals and valued actions…
Thanks Jonny, you cannot know how this video helps me now, I'm so grateful for your time and explanations
I’m glad it was helpful, thanks for the feedback
Thank you for putting this video out for everyone to access. Such a great resource for this dealing with existential OCD.
Thanks for the feedback, wishing you all the best
Thanks for this. Ive struggled with ocd for decades. Now in my 50s. Ruminating wears you out definitely. Ive recently had a knee surgery and a bereavement. Felt very vulnerable and ruminating more. Yep my hubby just distract himself and doesnt loop on these topics. Whats really helped me is getting into the Indian philosophy of Advaita vedanta and theb concept of non doership. I think talking to others who as you say dontvreally think abput all these things, can make me me feel worse because they can minimise how i feel so i dont talk about it to them. I like the analogy to auto immunity. Ive discovered not believing my thougts has helped. And as you say practically looking at the usefulness of things helps. Defo i relate to feeling envious that some others dont think of these things!
Thanks for the feedback. Sometimes people find spiritual practices and philosophies like Adaita Vedanta helpful, other times this becomes part of the existential rumination and coming back to values in action in life is more helpful. Whatever works well over the longer term is key and glad you found something supportive
Thanks sir.Very helpful and practical tips..loved the technical part 😊🙏
I’m glad it was helpful and hope you can continue to practice the ideas in the video 🙂
Thanks sir 🙏
You’re welcome and thanks for the feedback
thanks for the information.. where did you become educated with the knowledge your sharing?
This is the best place if you want to hear more about my journey with OCD and therapy www.integrativecentreforocd.co.uk/blog/podcast-appearances
@@jonnysaytherapy thanks for the information
Thank-you so much for addressing this aspect of OCD. You don't hear as much about "testing" as some of the other OCD related topics and there can be a certain about of shame surrounding this topic. As someone who has done mental testing, it's a relief to hear it addressed and normalized as part of OCD.
I’m glad you found it helpful and hope your continuing to practice your recovery skills and self compassion in response to this tricky area
Do you ever do group therapy with people who live internationally?
@@nancyburkhart1070 our 10 week course is attended by people internationally and then you are able to join our monthly ACT skills and ERP group after that www.integrativecentreforocd.co.uk/low-cost-ocd-groups
@@jonnysaytherapywonderful! I’ll check it out! 😊
Great insight Jonny & covers so much. Life is going very well cant thank you enough for our work years ago. still dip in & out stream also on work & other life stuff nowadays. & erp also. Lots of ACT techniques to diffuse from anything really. 🙌🏻
Great to hear your doing well and continuing to practice and master your skills. So much kindness and warmth you can bring to your life using your skills and following your values (rather than being stuck in compulsions and avoidance) 🙌🏽
Thanks for this video. I am 48 years old, at the age of 17, I suddenly had a sudden existential depression that made me fall deeply into a nihilistic pessimism that was difficult to bear on a daily basis. After more than 30 years of untreated depression with more or less severe episodes, a permanent existential OCD, I have the impression that the vision I have of life will never change again, I will die with this vision, whether by suicide or because I will be able to endure the suffering until I die of old age. I am desperately looking for reasons to change my "glasses" on life, because I suffer every waking minute, but I can't find anything. Good luck to all.
Thanks for sharing your experience, I am sorry to hear about your suffering. It goes without saying that I would recommend working with a skilled therapist (ERP, ACT etc that understands OCD, Depression, existential OCD). I will make a video on this topic as many people get to the place of believing their OCD (in the DSM diagnosis it talks about levels of insight high, medium, low) and particularly with existential OCD. I will say more in the video but a big part of my OCD was learning that I didn't have to believe everything my mind said on these topics, learning to defuse these thoughts and not think about whether they were definitely right or wrong but more, were they helpful? Then building up my skills to carry these dark existentially hopeless thoughts with me as I took action in a values based way and connected my attention to what I was doing more and more. The more I did this the less relevant and less overpowering the thoughts became. Also working hard to reduce all the time in the day that I was spending ruminating and debating myself on these topics and focus on simple everyday things instead. Depression will tell us that we can't handle it, it won't change and there is nothing we can do. But our minds are wrong and there can be immense meaning in facing adversity and difficulty and keeping on moving towards values like courage, compassion, determination, caring, contribution etc. You also might like Steve Hayes's article on this topic stevenchayes.com/when-life-seems-pointless/
@@jonnysaytherapy thank you for this long and informative answer, very helpful
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Glad it resonated
Thanks Jonny! I've been listening to you a lot on here and the OCD stories. You are INCREDIBLE. I love your approach and you seem to be a very smart, kind man. Thank you. I have very stubborn OCD and you help me a lot with your insights. Please keep up the great work. I'm sure you are a brilliant friend to your close ones too 👏💪 Best regards from Johannesburg, South Africa 🙏
Thanks for the positive feedback, I'm glad this material has been helpful. I hope your practice and recovery continues to strengthen more and more. Combining ACT tools into ERP have certainly been the game changer for me and many of my clients. Emphasising the response prevention part of ERP, connecting to values, working on acceptance rather than struggle/control, passive observation of thoughts, letting go of compulsions, self-compassion and training attentional focus in the present moment are all incredibly helpful...
Thanks gents. Jonny, I've been listening to you a lot on here and the OCD stories. You are INCREDIBLE. I love your approach and you seem to be a very smart, kind man. Thank you. I have very stubborn OCD and you help me a lot with your insights. Please keep up the great work. I'm sure you are a brilliant friend to your close ones too 👏💪 Best regards from Johannesburg, South Africa 🙏
Thanks for the positive feedback, I'm glad this material has been helpful. Combining ACT tools into ERP have certainly been the game changer for me and many of my clients
Thanks very much 🙂
Thanks for the feedback and glad it was helpful
Sir make video on difference between acknowledging and checking( ocd)..because while doing acknowledging part, i keep drifting in compulsions of checking and monitoring and holding my attention there again and again
Thanks for the question, just recorded an answer to this so will put it up shortly
Jonny when I try to deep breath I also sometimes get my self suffocated is there anything else I can try at high time of anxiety
If you look at some of the videos on this channel for Dropping Anchor for Overwhelm and acceptance they give some of the tools I use to work with this. Certainly let go of focusing on breathing, try to accept any tightness/suffocation feeling and engage in actions in the present moment (get more of your focus out into the world and less on your anxious response). Always good to work with an evidence based therapist to help you learn to handle this better
Hello, I had side effects from meditation, I remember starting with episodes of anxiety when somewhere I heard about meditation to improve anxiety, but this made everything worse, after the first time I meditated I started to feel depersonalization, I thought that Nothing around me was real, I couldn't sleep, I was very afraid of this sensation, I literally thought I had gone crazy. I had to take psychological therapy and after a year I felt better. It was a nightmare for me.
I'm sorry to hear you went through this but glad that therapy was helpful for you. Thanks for sharing
I want to take sessions from you johnny, what is the process to it.
Best thing would be to email our centre office@integrativecentreforocd.co.uk just now I have a waitlist but we can advise you on the length and other people in our team from there. All the best
Wow. After years of internet researches, this video finally resonates the most with my struggles. I'm 48 years old and I **think** I have Existential OCD since my late teens. Sometimes I think I have existential nihilism depression too. I don't know if those things are related. Anyway, the words you said to describe the mental struggle about everything (to see a beautiful flower = think about withered flowers = think about death), that is exactly what I'm living for so so so many years. So I stopped living, I just survive in a state of mental prostration. And it very often made me to want to kill myself... So I guess it's time to practice my present moment muscles.
I’m glad this was helpful. Yes it’s bringing defusion and acceptance skills every time that sequence starts and refocusing on values (just choosing values not analysing and ruminating about them) and taking action over and over. You might find the skills sequence on the ocd skills playlist useful to build up these skills. It’s very painful when your mind is constantly doing this but it gets easier with training and then the brain learns this association is not so important anymore…
Thank you for this clear, concise and accessible video about DPDR, which is clearly not researched or understood enough; even though, as you rightly point out, many people suffer brief, transient versions of this in their everyday lives. It's great that you are raising awareness about what I suspect is a more common condition than is widely talked about. And even better that you offer some useful information about how to help yourself, and find appropriate support, for those suffering from this challenging experience. Thank you for your good work.
Thanks for the feedback and I’m glad it was helpful
That's amazingly explained! Keeping to your values really helps. Thanks!!!
Glad it was helpful and thanks for the feedback!
That's amazing!!
I liked this explanation. I dealt with the perfectionism symptom for decades. Now I'm a lot better, I don't even care as much, it took mindfulness and some therapy. I like that mindfulness book called 30 Day to Stop Obsessing by Harper Daniels, and the Tao Te Ching for reminding myself that the present moment does not require perfection. Perfectionism is a hard thing to live with.
So true. I think that workability is helpful (I can't hold perfectionism standards on everything without major costs, many times perfectionism is reducing overall performance and happiness etc) and then urge surfing the perfectionist urge. Also compassion to the origins of the perfectionist message, where in our history did it come from and can we learn we are good enough and worthy not matter what we achieve.
Summary -Intention and reflection
Yes and also the importance of consistent and ongoing daily practice to the make the skills more habitual
Thank you for this, Jonny. Your voice is unique and deeply valuable; there's always interesting, helpful nuggets to pick up. Incidentally, I think I've heard 95% of the OCD Stories podcast, and you are easily my favorite guest (among a wide array of knowledgeable and compassionate people). Cheers from Norway
Thank you so much for your kind words, it’s lovely to hear when this stuff is resonating with people on their recovery journeys.
Thank you!
Glad it was useful
How do you handle OCD on a real event, that did, happen?
Hi Gabriel the advice in this video is for Real event OCD as well as false memory. They are often grouped together as the compulsions of memory review are a big part of both. The person asking the question in this email was asking about Real Event so everything in this video applies. The key things are to get better at the response prevention using ACT skills ie letting go of memory review, analysing, self-judgement etc, doing ERP on things that trigger the memory (either working with a therapist or Jon Hershfield's workbook has some good ideas for ERP on this) using ACT or mindfulness skills to help with response prevention. I also find building self-compassion up to be useful as well as per what I say in this video. I guess it could be that because you are in the compulsions so much, it was hard to see that this video is about Real Event OCD, so maybe rewatch and try to apply these ideas. If you are struggling then definitely reach out to a therapist with understanding of this OCD sub-type...
@@jonnysaytherapy thanks for the advice I'll rewatch the video. Thanks again for the reply. Your channel helps a lot. Peace
Thank you a lot for the video!
Glad it was helpful and thanks for the feedback
Just wondering, how long did it take you to get so comfortable with living life while noticing your sensation, that it didn't bother you anymore?
I had struggled with this ocd theme and others for decades. I started working on recovery and it took some time to have the big breakthrough around acceptance and using ACT and ERP together. From that breakthrough it was getting easier over the next couple of months but leading up to that had been about 30 years (about 5 years doing erp before that breakthrough but doing it with a control agenda). If you want to understand my story you could check out episodes on ocd stories or the most recent place I talked about it was podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/take-what-serves-leave-the-rest/id1591101308?i=1000617584860 my clients having quickest results your talking 3-6 months to really get the acceptance part..
sir kindly give any book recommendations for mindfulness and ACT.
I recommend Steven Hayes ‘Get out of your mind and into your life’ and ‘a liberated mind’. All of Russ Harris’s books, especially ‘the happiness trap’. John Forsyth ‘the mindfulness and acceptance workbook for anxiety’
@@jonnysaytherapy thanks sir. Could you please tell me that in which book i could find dropping anchor technique sir ?
@@xaxaxa12 Russ Harris books, second addition of the happiness trap is a good place to start
Anyone with OCD, this is one of the top three people on TH-cam you should listen to.
That’s great to hear, I’m glad you are getting benefits from the material and thanks for feeding back
The concept of insight hoarding is very interesting! I had never heard of it, but it does sound like something I had to overcome in my recovery
Yes it's a term for a type of compulsion I heard first from Jon Hershfield. There is also the concept of 'solving compulsions' where we are so focused on recovery, gathering info, insights, resources and actually not putting it into practice, or we are putting into practice but analysing the recovery process. In these cases we need to defuse these thoughts and refocus on simple values based actions in life...
Thank you for sharing that! The rollercoaster is tough, but definitely gets better with time, learning, and compassion.
Exactly, keep responding the way you are doing
What a cool video, thats the attitude to work towards
Glad you liked it Ryan and hope you’re recovery work is going well
I liked the exercise but it is too bad that you broke it up with ads it took me out of the moment.
I’m glad you liked the exercise, unfortunately TH-cam puts adverts on videos when they go over a certain amount of views, I’m not getting any money from the adverts and haven’t chosen them. You can get the audios of many of the practices at www.jonnysaytherapy.com without adverts…
Are you a Christian?
Can pocd create false feelings of attraction, ect??
If you are struggling with POCD and doubt it's definitely recommended to work with a therapist. The key thing is to learn to stop the mental compulsions like checking, monitoring and analysing feelings of attraction etc, once you get the compulsions down we stop getting caught in the doubt that you describe. Work with a therapist so that you are not analysing these feelings and are focused on the directions in life that you want to spend your time on rather than these doubts...