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"mechanically sympathetic" as an American i haven't heard that term before... definitely going to start using that one! Just bought one of these of ebay. Similar build from Vevor. Much appreciated video to give this thing a through look over / through to not electrocute myself haha.

I wonder if they still make 'Spitzer' hand moulds, as a kid back in the early 80's I used to cast loads out of scrap lead they were bullet shape and worked well if you were careful on how you removed the flashing off..

You really need to shoot larger groups in testing. 5 shot groups tell you absolutely nothing about your accuracy. Dispersion with a rifle is random. You might get five close shots and then five or ten shots scattered outside the center. Your groups sizes are not as small as your best 5 shot group. They are as large as a 50 shot group. The size of individual 5 shot groups will vary wildly. Please go watch Hornady's podcast episode 50. It explains the statistics of random samples. It will change the way you think about accuracy.

If you are interested in a literal pellet proof backstop l would seriously recommend using blu tac, yes the exact same stuff you use stuff to stick things to. Less than half and inch of the stuff will stop a 12 ftlb 14.5 grain pellet no problem, at one inch you can literally hit the same spot 10 times in a row at point blank range and it wont blow through the back and catches absolutely all of the leftover lead which can be melted down into slingshot ammo or fishing weights (or more airgun ammo if you have the right equipment to make your own) it makes zero noise when hit also so if you have nosey neighbours who like to complain about the slightest thing/noise its an absolute must, yes it can cost a bit to have a lot of it bit for £20 ive made a 6 inch by 6 inch and 1 inch thick plate of the stuff and is my go to backstop. If you freeze the stuff the pellet wont even make it more than a couple milimeters through it, i even froze a pencil shaped piece and smacked it with a 500g hammer on an anvil and it didnt shatter, the stuff is remarkably good at stopping kenetic energy dead. Ive even used 1 inch wide broadheads on a wooden shaft arrow from a 40lb draw weight recurve bow and the tips barely poke out the other side, using field points it works even better at stopping them. A slingshot that gives off around 20 ftlb of energy with 10mm steel balls it barely makes it through 3mm of the blu tack at room temperature and the steel balls dont bouce off it either I would seriously recommend anyone who doesnt have access to a lot of land or cant get to a rifle range to give it a go, it can also be used to line your pellet traps to make them absolutely completely quiet, the thinner the layer the more often youll have to remove the lead pellets and reshape it into a somewhat consistently thick plate to shoot. Ive not tested it with any fac rated airguns or firearms so i cant speak on that though i would love to see someone shoot a .22lr at a 2 foot thick block of the stuff then pour plaster into whatever would channel would be created to see how deep and how much expansion it causes because it almost polishes .22 pellets with 11.5ft lb when it stops them and causes them to expand a bit due to how quickly it stops them

If you were to use some bits of plywood set up to act as a wind barrier or some sturdy seethrough plastic sheets (b and q sell some) plywood would reduce light though you could point a torch at the target so whatever would be cheaper would be the best choice. it would be similar to indoor shooting and would eliminate any variables from any potential wind plus youll be able to stack and put the plywood/sheet plastic away when you are done, just need to come up with some feet to slot onto the bottom of them to stand up and then some connecting joints to hold them together kinda like how those temporary metal fences people put around construction sites work. Hope this gives you an idea to use/improve on. Love your videos keep them coming

I’m visiting Herne Bay tomorrow with the kids and I always have a rod and lures in the car. Is it worth trying from the beach at high tide? Haven’t got any waders to go far out. Would be great to catch a bass or two.

My grandmother always said: If you do sports and you can’t win, you first have to try cheating, when that doesn’t work you just find a new hobby. Since you complain about the material and already tried cheating with that strange table, maybe tennis is a nice thing for you to try.

They look like standard pellets that have been around for years and how can they be 'high power' that's down to the air gun.

Really good to see someone shooting pellets from a fixture. So far it seems to show how much of inaccuracy comes from pellet and rifle inconsistencies and how little from the shooter.

I e noticed that in 177 that these piranhas don't like the average barrel with 1-20 twist. It's very unfortunate.

Imagine complaining about russian pellets while using russian gas bought at a hefty premium from india.😂 The unbridled hypocrisy of ya.🤣

Where did you get these from fella

Interesting, but ashame that the presenter likes the sound of his own voice too much,

I sometimes use my push net to collect prawns at Broadstairs. Get quite a few amongst the mountains of weed, but i live in Faversham and i would love to collect more locally. Is Herne Bay good for push netting? Loving this video, thanks for the content 😊

I've been using wd40 for many years. As long as you don't drown them never had any problems. Use to much & it will diesel.

What a great series this is! I'm enjoying it immensely - every one of them. About fifteen years ago I completely refurbished the thumbhole stock of a 1967 Anschutz 1407 target rifle - without using anything but hand-tools in the form of a cork sanding block and a couple of pieces of dowel for the many complex curved bits. It was a real PITA, but still looks beautiful, so you can see how much I appreciate watching somebody whose skills a greater than mine!

Sorry, but I just had to comment again. Your interpretation of these groups is just not correct. They are not tight groups with an occasional flyer. They are just large groups. There is no mystery here. The pellets don't group well in your guns. Consistent weights and nice manufacturing tolerances don't mean that the pellets will always perform well. There are so many subtleties to the behavior of pellets that it's impossible to assess why one pellet works better than another. All you can do is shoot large numbers of pellets and look at the total aggregate group size to see its performance. You can't call tight groups good and call everything else a "flyer." They're all part of the normal distribution of that pellet and gun. You can't question or dismiss the ones you don't like unless they're one in 30 or more shots. One out of every four or five shots is just a pellet that doesn't group well!

I wonder if some of the problem here is in your interpretation of the small 5 shot groups you're shooting. A 5 shot group is too small to draw any conclusions from. They are virtually random in size. If you were to composite five or six 5 shot groups then you would have a clearer picture of the performance of the pellets. What you are interpreting as unexplainable flyers are probably just the random distribution of the normal dispersion of the pellets and gun. 5 shot groups shot with any pellet and any gun will vary wildly in size. If you shoot 20 to 30 shot groups then you will see a clearer picture of the dispersion of the pellet and gun.

Can you please tell me about your rifle?

Never had a great deal of success with Soviet pellets, I'd say the ones you've bought were from I. HUNTER, and the ones you tested were in the country way before the war started, so your conscience is clear.. Reason for that is that nobody buys them, they are mainly awful.. As for pointed pellets, the only ones I've used that have excelled are the QYS pointed.. Amazingly good.. Great test though, with SURPRISINGLY descent results..

Ive been using these for a couple years, £2, or £15 for a throw or focus lever for several scopes, mounts up!,ge

Interesting that the pointed pellets performed so well. The only semi-pointed pellet I use is Air Arms Diabolo Hunter, which outperform the Fields in my old Scorpion FT gun. Will try the Russian version. Thanks.

It takes a much larger group sample to measure any differences in pellet performance. I know it's a pain, but 20 to 30 pellet groups will give much more meaningful results. 5 pellet groups are little more than random. Look at Hornady's podcasts on testing. They're really compelling.

I got those. Were cheap. Good for sticking anywhere and plinking for the young ones :D.

Cheers for video lad.🎉🎉🎉🎉.

Great stuff Mr Tilly. I would offer some advice based on tests I did 30 years ago. If it is possible for your long range testing, lay some flags or a concrete base for a solid and stable bench rest. The reason is the ground in summer gets very hot on a sunny day, much hotter than the air temperature 3 feet above the ground. The air just above the ground say to 12" is highly unstable (the mirage effect that you could see), it displaces images more the further the range. The Ground (soil surface) temperature can be 30-40 degrees C, 36" above the ground can be 20 degrees lower. Hot air is less dense than cold air which sounds great in theory for long range shooting but it tends to have a very negative effect on accuracy. The difference in density of the air from 12" above the ground to 36" above the ground can be as much as 0.2Kg per cubic metre which looks low until you multiply it by 40 metres target distance. Prone/ground shooting also heats up barrels, PCP tanks/cylinders and effects regulator mechanisms on a hot sunny day which is not good. Quick visualisation, you are on holiday in the Costa Del Somewhere, you take your shirt off to cool down, you take your footwear off and your feet are burning. The more you learn the more complicated it gets but its infuriatingly wonderful. Keep up the good work.

Interesting conundrum this one….to see what’s being made in Russia, whether they’re ok/useable but also whether it’s morally acceptable to buy from and support such a regime. Good on you finding finding these different pellets to test but personally I won’t be buying them.

Sorry tilly i love you content normally.But not this one.i think its a bad idea to promote Russian pellets. especially when other Russian bullets bombs and rockets are hitting Ukrainian towns,citys ,hospitals schools,supermarkets,train stations and killing tens of thousands.of Ukrainians.i wouldn't buy anything Russian or promote anything Russian. Sorry but thats how i feel.

Where did Tilly get them from, as I'm pretty sure that's breaking sanctions. IT'S NOT POLITICS, IT'S THE LAW. I think this video needs to be removed ASAP for your own good. And NO I'm not reporting it, but you bet your last 1p that there will be someone who sees this as supporting the RAS..Russian Aggressor State.

Thank you for your video very informative

OMG finally. I have no idea why people who claim to test differences between rifles and pellets just... hold the gun and HOPE to shoot straight. Clamping the gun so it points always in the same direction is the most basic thing that one could do while doing this sort of testing, and yet, people do not do it. I have no idea why honestly.

Im surprised by all the internet police comments on this video by people who think they know something about politics. Can you not leave the man alone and let him make a video without pontificating to everyone?

Bad judgment to be promoting a Russian product.

Ooo, the grimace on your face loading the heavy domes, at one point I thought you were going to throw up 🤮, 😅😂😅, are you still in sub 12, doesn’t look like there worth the price, unless super cheap, 🫣

given how some channels are and how people are, this has to be the most unbias site and peaceful there is, and for people to inject politics into it is a bit off given how flexible politics seems to be with its attitude. the fact he got these in the UK well done tilly carry on your sterling work

I could feel your pain loading those heavy ones!

Definitely like the way the pointy ones was performing, cheers buddy, Jon 👍Hawkes eye TV 👍😁

Thanks dude, no political inference that i can see. 😊

Morning TG. Unusual designed pellet, I guess the more contact a pellet has within the barrel, then the more its flight can be impacted by imperfections or dirt within the barrel. Could you determine if they were a harder or softer lead composition? I would have expected to see more drop than you got, did you chrono any of them to compare to the JSBs?

Normally I really enjoy your video content. But sorry to say given all that is happening in the world this time I am not appreciating this one. People don't appear to realise that every penny going in to the Russian economy a percentage goes straight in to feeding its war effort and sadly genocide. I really wish people would realise they are not separate from who they support with their money. It's why you are always best to make a morals choice when you buy something or even choosing to promote something.

Kvintor make a "flashbang" pellet. I can't imagine they are kind to the barrel but would be interesting to see how they fare in sub 12

What about the price and do they feed from a magazine o.k.?

I'm surprised these are actually allowed in the UK given Russian air guns cannot be imported any more.

Good way to get on a few lists there Tilly! *Whispers into shirt sleeve*

russian Really?

Hello. On 3 January 2024, I purchased an Arken Optics (Order #AON65GX; SH-4; 4-16x50; Gen-2; FFP; 34mm tube; Illuminated VPR; Zero Stop) from your website. Upon receipt of the optics, a qualified FFL dealer, gunsmith, and highly experienced shooter (we both served in the Marines) accurately mounted the optics IAW Arken specs. On 12 July 2024, the rifle and Arken Optics were zero’d at our local range (again, following Arken specs). On 16 August 2024 we returned to the range for additional shooting (this time using 150 grain Federal ammo). While making fine tune adjustments with the new ammo, we lost elevation. The rounds were impacting at least 1 foot beneath targets. We attempted to make additional optics adjustments, but the rounds continued to impact beneath the target. Essentially, we have lost elevation control. Please note that we also double checked the placement of the mounts, mounting screws, mounting rings and found that the optics were properly installed. Any thoughts?

They look like garbage 🗑

Sub 12 maybe the problem !

It's good that you put the sunglasses on your hat so that the sun doesn't shine in your eyes when you're in the shade.

Another great video Tommy. Any chance you can tell me where you got the 17cm targets with the 9 benchrest targets on please?