long range pellet testing a custom AA s200 CZ barrel in the Anschutz 9015
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- What is the best competition pellet? testing the upgraded cz barrel in the Anschutz 9015
today i test the jsb exact heavy against the air arms diablo field and H&N 8 and baracuda ft in both 4.50 and 4.51 head sizes
groups are shot at 50metres in a strong wind to compare wind drifts with the idea to push them out to over 100yards
the cz barrel ran the H&N pellets really well and definitely an improvement over the factory anschutz barrel. the twist rate is also very similar to that of the walther barrel in the air arms xti50 that thrashed the 9015 at 100 yards last week
Nice vid to watch Sunday morning with a cup of tea excellent real world shooting as always well done.
Cheers mate, next calm day will be very telling.them ft's did way better than in the old barrel. They should absolutely stack in the calm or when I'm trying to hit stuff.
That’s a really interesting test. You’re videos are so good mate and a Sunday morning treat 👍
Cheers mate, I love all the testing. It's a real eye opener and makes a change on here than seeing micro groups stamped, to get real world downrange cards.😉
Can't beat a good pellet test, enjoyed watching with a few beers when I got back from the range.. Excellent stuff..
Another interesting video, thank you for all the time and effort you have taken.
Cheers mate, it's going to be a fun little series ,,seeing if I can get it to perform well at the extended ranges for sure 😉
Pour a glass of beer, put your feet, Tilly’s done another great video 👍
Ah if I must... Just a small one for me... 😎😉
Chasing the 🪿...comedy gold. Great video as always 👍
They are completely oblivious things 😂 they are really angry right now too...
Great video, ive been learning a lot which is good as I'm a relatively new shooter. Many thanks for that.
Awesome thanks mate, there's a real variety of stuff on here and some pretty solid info pared back with no bs😉
Excellent stuff 😊
Hi, I love watching your extensive pellet testing videos. I’m always wondering which pellet would be best for my HW100, and conflicted about my actual ability to make a judgment because I’m a relatively new shooter. So here’s an item you might find interesting and could possible try it for content. I was watching the latest Hot Air video, which was a Q&A. Pellet testing was included, with this method being suggested. Clamp the rifle (he used a mill clamp) then fire 5 shots at close range (4 yards) then compare the results, I’ve tried it by making a wooden clamping method and think it works. My results for spread were Super Field - 7.2mm QYS - 5.0mm and the surprise for me was H&N Field Target Trophy 4.5mm. I think this method may quickly identifies if your barrel likes the pellet. I’d previously rejected the Field Trophies as not as good as QYS.
ive done loads of head sizing on different pellets exacts are always all over the place mostly even a tin of 4.53 are actually 4.50. jsb heavies are usually more consistent just .1mm low. the h&n ft and 8s are by a long way the most consistent so fit a bigger barrel better
Imagine if h&n did a softer compound with the style of the jsb heavy... I'd be all over them😎
@@tillysgunstocks or a bara ft slightly softer? All the barrels brocock/ daystate love fts and jsb heavies I think jsb exacts are going to become extinct with the price rises and inconsistencies. Rws have altered. .177 superfields as well now and they shoot terrible in a gun that always liked them out to 60yards. luckily the.22 superfields haven't changed yet as both of my.22 katran like them
Brilliant video as usual... Baracuda FT in 4.50 are just amazing in my P15.. well certainly out to 50m that's as far as I've tried so far .. such a shame about JSB quality issues as Range master sovereign where my go to pellets but new batches suddenly wouldn't group
It's a bit frustrating really with the jsb, however the heavies do seem a bit easier to find good batches ,maybe they make less and there's less dies or something 🤔
I'm hoping that I can switch to h&n for some of the rigs but so far decent batches of jsb seem to have the slight edge still,in my stuff atleast... 😉
After years of using AA Fields 4.52, we have both just changed to B8's 4.51 in our FWB800's and found they did not need a re zero and are performing as well as our old AA's. Also find they do take a little more wind, but seem to be predicable on our clubs FT circuit. As many have found the Barracuda FTs are our pellet of choice for the clubs 25 yard BR
Have you had chance to push the ft's out to 55yds or further? I've got a load of the AA fields to last for a while but the ft's look pretty predictable so far🤔
@@tillysgunstocks so far only "tested" on the clubs FT course .. I did sit at the known "its 54.5" yard full size kill target for half a dozen shots, missed one which was all me as it was pretty windless yesterday. When I get a chance will pop down other club range and shoot 70ish (which is max we can get). I didn't score a card yesterday but Sue did a 35/40 which is same as her last card with AA (she is well out of practice as she rarely shoots in winter when its raining)
Nice shooting, interesting set of results, always nice when they follow your expectations. Don't use H & N pellets a lot myself, may be worth taking a look at some.
In the winter I'll be embarking on some Indoor shooting, we'll get to see how bad a shot I really am...but itl be great to really see how the h&n perform in more controlled environments for sure.
I'm going to go blagging and see if I can get a load of different batches and see how they compare. There seems far less variation between them compared the jsb of late😉
Alright bud. Just a heads up on pellets.
N and M product from Sheffield has some of the best pellets i have had recently and by far the cheapest especially in bulk. Even offering specific die numbers for 8.44s.
I type in Sheffield air rifles in Google to get them up.
Just got 10 tins of jbs h really pleased with how they arrived.
They were so cheap i ended up spending around 200 getting all sorts of lead goodies 😅
Great video bud looking forward to the next one👍
I've used them a few times recently mate for alot the stuff I've used on the channel. 😉
Always been pretty good service...
Morning chap, H&N seem to be showing some promise, great group & spread tutorial, I have a personal liking for CZ barrels, it starts being somewhat different further out though doesn't it 😁 great content, look forward to the follow up, cheers buddy, Jon 👍Hawkes eye TV 👍😁👌
The long range work really punishes even minor Imperfections in the setups. Hopefully some of the h&n will work and make my life a bit easier ..🤔
The cz barrels will often run the harder pellets pretty well especially things like the old accupells..
The accupell's do really well in my CZ 200 s Ratworx, as do the JSB heavies, going to give the H&N's a go I recon, cheers buddy 👍👍😁
Great video as usual. I love the idea of getting the correct pellet for your barrel that will improve the accuracy, consistency and confidence in the gun. Just another element less to have to think about!
Looks like the goose is for Xmas
Another great video Tommy. I always look forward to watching these at the weekends. Was wondering whether you should check that the zero is the same for the H&N Baracuda FT pellets as it is for the JSB Heavy. If they already drop low and right at the zeroing range, then this would need to be allowed for at the longer ranges.
Hi mate thanks for being a part of the channel 😉
You're absolutely right I really should have checked the zero with the ft's .. however I've got a bit of further work to do to the barrel. I need to sleeve it a fraction as the od could be a better fit in the 9015 breech block. I'll cover that down the line aswell as seeing if there's anything to be gained by indexing it, which can be done easily in the current configuration. So didn't bother to check this time,more the dispersion of the groups. Once I get a stripper fitted it'll be nerdy fun fine tuning it all .. Def some mileage in the ft's I reckon though...😉
@@tillysgunstocks Thanks for taking the time to reply. I look forward to your following videos pal 👍
With my Hft500 at 50yrds the 10.34 jsb (715fps) and 9.57 bara ft perform about the same but when pushed out to 100m there is significantly more drop on the lighter h&n pellets i feel due to much more barrel friction and maybe ballistic co-efficiency.
There's a big difference between the 2 eh... The drop shouldn't be too problematic at known distances but they shot alot better through the cz than the factory Anni barrel. Nice to have a few more options going forward
Excellent vid, love the benny hill bit in the middle 😂, H&N always look good out of the tin, newish shooter, your advice is one of the reasons why I watch your vid’s, 🏃➡️🏃♂️🏃➡️ 🪿
Thanks for being a part of the channel mate 😉 I try and be as Informative as possible with this stuff. Kinda the info 8 wish I knew when I was starting out type thing. 😎
Cz barrel very lovely
I have stopped using jsb in all my rifles, the last time I heard there are potentially 400+ variations of the same pellet with different dies, die heads, over 62 dies and 7 die heads. It's pointless, h&n baracuda 8 has 1 die! You will get consistenet pellets tin to tin, qys also have a small amount of dies but have very good qc
Really enjoyed that. I just need to take the time to do the same with my guns.
I promise mate,if you spend the time monitoring the drifts and drops like I did,it will really help give a better idea what goes on down range. And when the weather really gets up, you'll be far better prepared 😉
Barracuda fts are brilliant in my hw100 carbine, ragged one hole groups at 60 yds
Interestingly mate, the hw100 has an even faster twist rate than all the barrels I've got here. It's on my to do list to prep a blank and do some comparisons 😉. They would have stacked great had it been calm...
Loved my CZs200 i sold it to fund my HFT500 big mistake 🎯🔫😎
Cool video.
Good video, really shows the effect of wind well. Serious question, why are you testing at 100yds? Not asking to criticise, genuinely interested.
Of course there is the just out of curiosity, which we all understand 😀.
I am just wondering if you have a real world application in mind for shooting sub12 at 100yds?
Bench rest is usually 25yds (indoors) and HFT at max, what 50yds, would it not be more useful to test out to say 55yds.
Even long range BR is usually indoors.
Like I said zero criticism, just interested to know how you will be applying the knowledge you gain. I can't really see any real world application for 100yd shooting, other than long range BR (I believe US BR is over 12ft lbs). Still fascinating to watch though & like the methodical approach 👍
Hi mate, well there's a lot of reasons really.
I guess the most important is I love the challenge of pushing myself and our usual gear to the limits
There's also a lot of stuff in the vids that is very useful for more normal applications, the extreme ranges massively increase any imperfection in the setup and make it all more visible than at say 50yds. It helps me get a better idea what is going on,albeit at a smaller scale at the closer normal ranges.
(Think of the huge elevation change in some of the older long range groups) We barely notice that at our usual ranges but it's there...
I'm going FAC later this year too, so all and any experience at the longer ranges will be useful when I've got 50+ftlb on tap.
It's be fun to get over to the USA for a crack at the EBR and it's night and day different to traditional br here. So quite a few reasons really,and it's super fun... Dropping them long targets really gets the adrenaline going 😉
@@tillysgunstocks All solid reasons. Always good to perfect the gun set up & really good point about the imperfections being magnified at range.
I have been genuinely impressed at the performance of the rifles at 100yds, though I would always argue that it's only ever inanimate targets at sub12.
FAC will be fun to see. The Yanks have some insane FAC guns that perform incredibly well but at larger calibres. BR USA style should be informative. Keep up the good work.
Great at 55y how about the katran at that distance? Similar pellet testing.
I've some plans mate for the katran, need to do a little work to it first though but it'll be back very soon 😉
What chassis is that on your 9015? Love your videos. Getting into Air Rifles now.
It's a heavily reworked walther lg300 protouch chassis. It took a fair bit of work,to make it work but I love it 😉
Everyone said it couldn't be done... But here we are 🤣
@@tillysgunstocks nice!!!!! Cheers.
Would the H&N results have been any different if the speed and power adjusted to match the faster JSB heavy?
I can't really wind it up any further mate to have the h&n running mid-high 11s as the minute I ran a jsb heavy it'd be well over.
Having said that, I'll be doing the testing later In the year once I've put a few things Into place 🥳
Hn8,s good in all my barrels...and mostly shoot slightly lower fps then the jsb,s...but cracking value thou....
Absolutely mate, they are definitely worth spending some decent time with and seeing if the rig can be optimised to suit them
Have you seen the "Rifle" branded ammo? £5 less a tin compared to JSB and from what I've seen are on par with the accurate brands.
I've not seen any in the flesh as yet. One of my mates had some a few weeks ago and was less than impressed though. apparently they are all over the place in size and weight variance. I might grab some to test... 😉
It's a shame the H&N Sniper pellets are no longer made. Through my S200 they were bang on accuracy wise and the hardly budged at all in the wind. I've yet to find a pellet that does as well as they did.
Interestingly I never managed much success with them and when they were pax designs pre being sold to h&n. I wonder how they would stack up against the heavies..might try and find some...🤔
@@tillysgunstocks You'll need to be very lucky to find the early produced H&N pellets, the later ones were terrible, as far as I know the machine was damaged on the last few runs! I have just over half tub of Logun Penetrators in .177 if they are of use to you? Not quite the same (H&N seemed to have added little lines inside the skirt) but may be interesting to compare them to something more recent.
Have you checked your speed, or rather, muzzle energy when switching a pellets? Because I found that Baracuda FT's tend to lose some energy if you aren't adjusting rifle settings.
Hi mate, your absolutely correct.the ft's are running around 25fps slower than the heavies in the 9015.
Problem I've got working within the 12ftlb power limit is if I wind the power up a bit to get the ft's up to 710, it'll be well over the limit with the heavies ☹️
Ill be able to test all this soon though... It's very interesting seeing what happens when the powers are fine tuned for each pellet instead of just running the rig at a safe sub12... 😉
@@tillysgunstocks Die H&N Baracuda Ft 4.50mm 9.57grain 0.62 gram sind etwas leichter als die JSB und die grenze unter 12 ftlb liegt bei 734 fps = 11.06 ftlb oder Maximal bei 744 fps = 12 ftlb oder liege ich falsch in meiner berechnung ? Ich finde deine Videos Top weiter so..
Very intreasting vid love your scope by the way what is it if you dont mind me asking ??
Hi mate , it's a one off that scope.. it was a prototype 30mag falcon endura ffp. Ed and illuminated. The new s40i ended up being it's successor . I'm going to get the S40 as soon as they are readily available 😉. I really like that it's all blacked out ,there's no obvious branding on it. Looks very stealthy..
@@tillysgunstocks love it and rare you lucky man !!
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Very interesting video, out of interest what make of chronograph do you use/trust?
I love the barrel mounted type for ease of use and I just sling it in the bag so it's always there if I need it. The one in the vid is a Natechrony which I really like. It's been very reliable and accurate so far.it powers off the phone or a power bank just using a usb3/phone charging cable. It actually transfers the data to the phone via WiFi. Very clever although Im absolutely useless with tech it was very easy to set up,even for me.
If you need a downrange chrono the lmbr are my faves and if you want a radar the Garmin is the best 😉
@@tillysgunstocks I have an lmbr and trust it. Recently bought an fx v2 and that is reading lower than the LMBR but have stuck with the LMBR reading as I’d rather be safe than sorry, accuracy in my little Katran is fine
Have you compared the Nate chronograph to the FX?
Not side by side I haven't mate. But I've used both... If I was going the radar route it'd have to be the Garmin for me. The Nate chrony works just fine and I like the barrel mounting arrangement. Suits me well and a sensible price. I don't think I've missed a single shot on the Nate so far..
You have to be kidding - can you make sure there's a nice Red & Black laminate stock on the rifle to at least match that Chrony!!! 🤣
Damn Aussies... All showy offy... 🤣😂
I've got an epic project in the pipeline that will be a perfect match to the chrony...
Still not missed a single shot yet either...
@@tillysgunstocks Will have to send you an update board. We're on v3.4 of the software... voice added :)
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