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Only allowed one step through

@@refereeuniversityand one more question tho, can we lift pivot foot while doing step through or we really need to jump with both feet of the ground?

@@lanle6728 we can lift the pivot foot as long as you pass or shoot the ball before the pivot foot returns to the ground

Great question, the FIBA rule book has to be more clear in this area because it is creating confusion. I asked the very same question to a high up FIBA rules person and they said they count a step and a jump differently. So the rule is written like that because a jump is not a step through. So because there is a difference, a step is allowed and a jump off the foot is not. Does that make sense?

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But I think second time the throw-in player realease the ball its not violetin?

@@mindaugasbalsys8301 Sorry, it's really hard to understand what you wanted to say.

3 in the key, referees pause the count if the player is attacking the rim (making a move to shoot) but your scenario does not describe that which would be a 3 in the key call

What do you mean “use of board” and is the yugo step like the Pinoy step? th-cam.com/users/shortsT2-HkLdnUPY?si=AgIFEIHcwVa3KS7n

@refereeuniversity for board I mean when a player throws the ball to the backboard, when it is legal ang when is not legal. Related to the Yugo step when a player jumps and land with the same foot after or about gathering the ball

They also call it hop step not the same as pinoy step

@@jonathanmilla4604 You can throw a basketball at a backboard and it is legal at all times. You cannot step with the same foot twice after the gather. Does that help?

Legal play and it would NOT be under the travelling rule. OBRI 24-2,3,4 all showcase it being legal

Depends on the action following the lifting of the pivot foot to determine if it is legal. You can lift your pivot foot for a shot or a pass provided that it occurs before the pivot returns to the ground. You cannot lift your pivot foot prior to the start of a dribble.

Here then: th-cam.com/video/vCbAtpVNxjw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=AG8CcwDX68t7_LwT

@@refereeuniversity I'm not questioning you if it's legal now. The problem I have is that it's actually a travel that they made legal. I maybe personally biased because they did not allow us to use it when I played so I hate it. You have to misinterpret the rule for it not to be a travel. Yes you can raise your pivot. But raising your period with your other foot on the ground is another step which makes it a travel. The only way you we're able to raise your pivot was if both feet left the ground at the same time. The interpretation of the rule is wrong in my opinion because it's not consistent with the other travel violations. For instance, if a ball handler picks up his dribble antiques one step, how long does he have before he can take the second step?

The reason is due to their being a larger amount of officials not knowing the rule and calling it. It’s been legal forever.

@@refereeuniversityShow the rule and show where it states you come to a stop establish your pivot and then walk through with your non pivot and lift your pivot while your non pivot foot is on the ground. If you go back prior to 2000 or maybe even 2010 you never see players do this. Could you imagine Michael Jordan getting the ball and doing this!? He would average 50 ppg!

​​@@refereeuniversityNo, it was officiated properly before. The misinterpretation comes where it says you can lift the pivot, but if your other foot is still planted then it's technically another step, which is a travel. The only way you were supposed to be able to lift your pivot was if you jumped with both feet off the ground. The step through literally breaks the rules that said you only get 2 steps in one continuous motion and direction... Which is the same rule that made the Euro step illegal.

@@DJVijilante In my video, I showed the written rule from the rulebook that supports it. Please quote yours. Players have been doing this, Dirk, Hakeem to name a couple. If the written rule is not enough and you do not believe it occurred before the 2000's....here is a video with an NBA director of official development and a VP of video operations stating it is true (one through video example) and multiple examples across the era's: th-cam.com/video/vCbAtpVNxjw/w-d-xo.html

@@kobekane Please find where in the rule book that the 2 steps have to be continuous and in the same direction and quote it to me please. There are plenty of referees in today's time that referee off of experience (as a player, coach, or with other referees) instead of reading the rulebook which causes this disconnect. The jump stop no pivot foot still exists in today's game, the restriction depends on how many steps you take prior 0-1- and on the last step (Step 1) you land on two feet: no pivot allowed, if you go 0-and on the first step (Step 1), you land on two:pivot with either foot. I am all for a discussion, but please show some evidence in the rulebook for it. I have the rulebook, top referees, and video examples to support my stance

That’s not true, the 5 second count starts when it’s at the disposal of the inbounder. Which the referee can pass or place it at their disposal

Please reference where in the rule book that states you can’t lift your pivot foot if you’re “static” versus when you are doing a layup

@@refereeuniversity In FIBA Rules: “25.1. Definition 25.1.1. Travelling is the illegal movement of one foot or both feet beyond the limits outlined in this article, in any direction, while holding a live ball on the playing court. 25.1.2. A pivot is the legal movement in which a player who is holding a live ball on the playing court steps once or more than once in any direction with the same foot, while the other foot, called the pivot foot, is kept at its point of contact with the floor. 25.2.1. Establishing a pivot foot by a player who catches a live ball on the playing court: • A player who catches the ball while standing with both feet on the floor: …… - To pass or shoot for a field goal, the player may jump off a pivot foot, but neither foot may be returned to the floor before the ball is released from the hand(s).”

@@johnnyhammer Firstly, the word static is not in the rulebook. Secondly, the article has two bullet points of identifying a pivot foot, first bullet point is a standing player and the second addresses a progressing player (which is what you would do for a layup) which means the layup situation has a pivot foot. Lastly, this argument about the written rule is a fair issue/complaint to have. Other rule books address the step through clearly through allowing people to step off their pivot foot (like shown in the video). FIBA has it written differently but the interpretation still allows it. What I mean by that, top FIBA officials have confirmed it's legal and when I asked a top FIBA rules person (does some of their webinars), they state a step is different that a jump. So you can step off your pivot foot but you cannot jump off of your pivot.

@@refereeuniversity Hmm... But the FIBA rule clearly states that you can't step on your non pivot foot if you lift your pivot foot by saying that "NEITHER FOOT may be returned to the court before the ball is released from the hand(s)", doesn't it?

With the change of dribbling (allowing hand to come to the side of the ball), gathering (when it is deemed they gathered), and including a zero step (ignoring the step you gather with), it appears that they take many steps. Some of these changes allow for more athleticism and creativity when they play.

Bullet points are to explain different scenarios, we showcased the ones in regard to this scenario of footwork

@refereeuniversity I am giving up, after 50 years of fighting! The new experts forgot the basics and people keep asking why ! Thanks for this material, good job!

They deem a step and a jump/hop as different movements, which is why the wording is different but interpretation is the same

The first dribble can start with two hands, and a push dribble is allowed so this move is legal

Thank you!!

I will add it to the list, that may take some time

Thank you!!

You are correct!

When you step through, you aren’t pivoting because you can’t use the other foot. In order to pivot, you need both feet (one to be nailed in the ground:pivot foot and the other to be moving every direction)

@refereeuniversity Checkout Indiana vs Duke 2002. 51:10.

@@j.j.4228 51:10? NOT CORRECT. I CAN'T FIND

@@j.j.4228 Game link?

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All depends on who was in the spot first. So if I step and turn my back and get to the spot first as a defender and offense runs into to me, it’s their foul

I don’t know if it was a rule change or an added interpretation to provide consistency

Legal in NBA in the last 2 minutes; legal in college maybe? Illegal in FIBA

Great question, 25.2.1 says that landing on two feet on your second step, “if one foot or both feet then leave the court, no foot may return to the court before the ball is released from the hand(s)”. That means you can hold one foot in the air, you just can’t step through.

@refereeuniversity haha 🤣 can only laugh at imagining the scene 😂 Thx for the answer 😁

YOU ARE RIGHT. They can't see the difference between KOBE's movements and this video. They just think "similarity" means the same movements.

Use the wheel (settings) to slow down playback, takes off of one

@refereeuniversity travel go back and open yiur eeyes

Another video has tons of examples if you need

Thanks for the question! If they have an unsportsmanlike foul on a made shot (2pt or 3pt), it’s only one shot (an and1) and they get possession of the ball. Hope that helps

@@refereeuniversity Cheers. It appears the NFHS rule is different so that's why I was getting mixed up.

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1 foot! Great question!

No. You can only shoot or pass.

@@juhner84as is explained, if the shot attempt is daimed valid, team loses control at shooting, though regaining control at the rebound, so all options should be allowed. You sir, are wrong.

​@@256moperfekt answer

I have brought this to the attention of FIBA operations. Even known they have videos showcasing it being allowed and top rule interpreters agreeing that it’s a legal move, the issue is the writing of the rule itself. Especially when they don’t define words like the NBA does in their rule book. They can keep this wording if they did exactly that: define a jump from a step. From the years of rule book changes I have seen and read, FIBA tends to make those mistakes due to their location, I was told that it gets translated into English for the rule book versus NBA rules created in the USA where the rules are written in English and translated to other languages.

Use the wheel to slow down the video, near impossible to jump off of two with a forward lean. Due to people having issues with catching that, I compiled MANY CLEAR CUT examples: th-cam.com/video/vCbAtpVNxjw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=yusK5FGgcul5zW8W

@refereeuniversity Mastering footwork takes much practice. You can jump off 2 feet while leaning foward, just as we do off a fade away, fall away, and leaning floater.

I could screenshot those moves in the video and I guarantee two examples went off of one foot. Stagger foot with forward lean/stretch, near impossible

@refereeuniversity Most of them clips in that video in your reply are traveling. No need to slow down the footage, Ive been doing up and unders and step throughs since I was a child. It's not an issue of the pivot moving on the jump, the issue is these players are lifting the pivot on the move before the jump. Ncaa and pro sports are a joke nothing but WWE. Show some real competition footage.

Same footwork as most layups

There is another rule bullet point that you can’t jump on the same consecutive foot after gathering so that is illegal by the rule book. Just like the video shows, all rules are accessible, just have to rad them. Additional, it is only misinterpreted from the fans, here are two NBA officials in different education roles saying it’s LEGAL: th-cam.com/video/vCbAtpVNxjw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=yusK5FGgcul5zW8W

I imagine it’s because we have amazing athletes being expected to stop quickly off of full speed movements. The 0-1-2 allows more utilization of moves and doesn’t kill the athleticism