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Why is everyone leaving? Current State of Throne and Liberty
*Throne and Liberty: 3 Months Later - What Went Wrong?*
It’s been three months since Throne and Liberty’s global launch, and the player numbers tell a concerning story. Despite consistent content updates, the game has been losing 10-15% of its player base every week. But why?
In this video, I dive into the major issues of Throne and Liberty!
*Reddit Post:* www.reddit.com/r/throneandliberty/comments/1hfeanv/three_months_in_whats_good_and_whats_bad/
*Chapters*
00:00 Intro
01:00 Reason Nr.1 - Combat
03:50 Reason Nr.2 - Toxicity
06:30 Reason Nr.3 - Dimensional Trials & Runes
10:37 Reason Nr.4 - Guilds, Alliances & PVP
14:09 Reason Nr.5 - Stats
15:52 Outro
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Ultimate Spear PVE Build - Dealing insane damage with Greatsword & Spear!
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*Gladiator (Spear Greatsword) - Build Guide* In this video, I break down how to optimize your Spear build for PvE content. Learn which skills and specializations to pick, how to maximize your Burst and Ignite stacks, and why pairing Spear with a Greatsword can lead to insane damage outputs. I’ll also cover the best passives, masteries, gear setups, and runes-plus tips on rotation and party syne...
Unlocking Insane DPS: The Ultimate PVE Rune Strategy
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*Rune Guide for PVE* Are you ready to take your PVE gameplay to the next level? In this video, I’ll break down the best rune setups that maximize your Heavy Attack Chance and send your DPS through the roof. These optimized rune configurations will give you the competitive edge you need to dominate bosses and secure top-tier damage in every run.
Master every Tier of Voidwastes with these essential Tips!
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*Dimensional Tiral - Voidwastes* Master the Voidwastes in the Dimensional Trial in all Tiers with these essential tips and tricks. *Chapters* 00:00 Intro 00:16 Laser Beam 00:45 Breath Mechanic 02:33 Boss Pattern 03:07 Below 40% HP 03:29 Tier 5 04:26 Outro
Master every Tier of Island of Terror with these essential Tips!
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*Dimensional Tiral - Island of Terror* Master the Island of Terror in the Dimensional Trial in all Tiers with these essential tips and tricks. *Chapters* 00:00 Intro 00:25 Fury & Wrath Attacks 01:08 Fireball Attack 01:50 Lizards 02:12 Geyser (T1-T4) 03:02 Fire Waves (T3) 04:28 Fury & Wrath Attacks (T5) 04:59 Rat (T5) 07:34 Geyser (T5) 11:13 Outro
Bonus Damage & Damage Reduction: Are They Really Worth It?
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*Bonus Damage & Damage Reduction* Confused about how Bonus Damage and Damage Reduction actually work? You're not alone! In this video, I break down these two key stats in detail, clear up common misconceptions, and show in-game examples to help you understand their true impact. By the end of the video you will understand if your class benefits from Bonus Damage or Damage Reduction! *Chapters* 0...
Korean vs Global 2 Star Dungeons: What We Missed in the West
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*2 Star Dungeons - Global vs Korea* Did you know the new 2-star dungeons we just got in the Western version of Throne and Liberty were 20 times harder when they first launched in Korea? In this video, I’ll take you on a journey through the wild and chaotic mechanics of the original Korean dungeons and compare them to the heavily nerfed versions we have now. From brutal coordination challenges t...
Voidwastes - New 2 Star Dungeon Guide
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*Voidwastes Dungeon Guide* Explore the ultimate guide for Voidwastes, one of the new 2-star dungeons in Throne and Liberty! Learn essential strategies, tips, and tricks to master the boss fight. Whether you're a seasoned adventurer or tackling 2-star dungeons for the first time, this guide has you covered!" *Chapters* 00:00 Intro 00:13 2 Star Dungeon Basics 00:41 Laser Mechanic 01:46 Red Orb 02...
Valley of Slaughter - New 2 Star Dungeon Guide
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*Valley of Slaughter Dungeon Guide* Explore the ultimate guide for Valley of Slaughter, one of the new 2-star dungeons in Throne and Liberty! Learn essential strategies, tips, and tricks to master the boss fight. Whether you're a seasoned adventurer or tackling 2-star dungeons for the first time, this guide has you covered!" *Chapters* 00:00 Intro 00:14 Meteors 00:30 Cone Attack 00:42 AOE Fire ...
Carmine Rage Island - New 2 Star Dungeon Guide
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*Carmine Rage Island Dungeon Guide* Explore the ultimate guide for Carmine Rage Island, one of the new 2-star dungeons in Throne and Liberty! Learn essential strategies, tips, and tricks to master the boss fight. Whether you're a seasoned adventurer or tackling 2-star dungeons for the first time, this guide has you covered!" *Chapters* 00:00 Intro 00:11 2 Star Dungeon Basics 00:40 1st Mechanic ...
Island of Terror - New 2 Star Dungeon Guide
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*Island of Terror Dungeon Guide* Explore the ultimate guide for Island of Terror, one of the new 2-star dungeons in Throne and Liberty! Learn essential strategies, tips, and tricks to master the boss fight. Whether you're a seasoned adventurer or tackling 2-star dungeons for the first time, this guide has you covered!" *Chapters* 00:00 Intro 00:13 2 Star Dungeon Basics 00:56 Fireball Mechanic 0...
The Secret to High Damage: Base Damage Explained!
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In this video, I break down why base damage is absolutely critical for maximizing your damage output in both PvE and PvP. While many players focus on skill damage boosts and heavy attack chances, base damage often gets overlooked. I'll cover what base damage is, how it impacts your overall damage, and the best ways to boost it. Plus, we'll dive into comparison calculations to show the true impa...
I Created a Tank Simulator - Optimize & Compare Your Tank Build!
มุมมอง 7Kหลายเดือนก่อน
In this video, I introduce the Tank Simulator I built for Throne and Liberty. This allows you to input and compare different tank builds by calculating incoming damage from various skills. It considers defensive stats such as endurance, shield block chance, and passive/active skills to give you a comprehensive overview. If you’re into min-maxing your tank build and testing different scenarios, ...
What are the best Tank Builds for PVP in Throne and Liberty?
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*Best PVP Tank Builds* Are you wondering what the best PvP tank build is for Throne and Liberty? In this video, I'll break down unique tank builds designed for different playstyles in large-scale PvP. I'll also cover builds from other top content creators like Granton, Canon, and from Maxroll, comparing their approaches to my own so you can decide which build fits you best. *Builds:* questlog.g...
Ultimate Sentinel PVE Build - Dealing insane damage with Greatsword & Staff!
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*Sentinel (Greatsword & Staff) - PVE Build* In this video, I explore what makes the Sentinel (Greatsword & Staff) a top contender for DPS in PVE, despite being an off-meta choice. I’ll break down the core strengths of this build, show you how I achieved some impressive results in secret dungeons, and go over my gear, skills, and mastery choices. I’ve also included gameplay footage with tips on ...
Nightmarish Pumpkin Patch - Halloween Event Dungeon Guide
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Easy way to solo carry each Cursed Wasteland Run in Throne and Liberty!
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Easy way to solo carry each Cursed Wasteland Run in Throne and Liberty!
Ultimate Healing Paladin PVE Guide - All you need to know about healing with Greatsword and Wand!
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Ultimate Healing Paladin PVE Guide - All you need to know about healing with Greatsword and Wand!
The Best Guardians for each class in PVP & PVE in Throne and Liberty
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The Best Guardians for each class in PVP & PVE in Throne and Liberty
Ultimate Tanking PVE Guide - All you need to know for tanking with SNS & Greatsword!
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Ultimate Tanking PVE Guide - All you need to know for tanking with SNS & Greatsword!
Throne and Liberty - Butchers Canyon Guide
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Temple of Slaughter Guide: All Bosses explained - Throne and Liberty
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Temple of Slaughter Guide: All Bosses explained - Throne and Liberty
Tyrant's Isle Guide: All Bosses explained - Throne and Liberty
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Ultimate Beginner's Guide: 100 Essential Tips for Throne and Liberty Beginners
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Ultimate Beginner's Guide: 100 Essential Tips for Throne and Liberty Beginners
Evasion or Endurance? Throne and Liberty PvP Stat Breakdown
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Evasion or Endurance? Throne and Liberty PvP Stat Breakdown
Ultimate Healing PVP Guide - All you need to know for healing with Bow & Wand!
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Ultimate Healing PVP Guide - All you need to know for healing with Bow & Wand!
Ultimate Healing PVE Guide - All you need to know for healing with Bow & Wand!
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Ultimate Healing PVE Guide - All you need to know for healing with Bow & Wand!
Cave of Destruction Guide: All bosses explained (Cheese Tactic) - Throne and Liberty
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Cave of Destruction Guide: All bosses explained (Cheese Tactic) - Throne and Liberty
The best way to make Lucent as a F2P Player in Throne and Liberty!
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The best way to make Lucent as a F2P Player in Throne and Liberty!
Best Weapon Combinations for Every Role in Throne and Liberty
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Best Weapon Combinations for Every Role in Throne and Liberty

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  • @flankensteiin3748
    @flankensteiin3748 6 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Honestly if they just added a box for dimensional trials.. so that you dont have to complete 2star AND trials. It would make it so much better already. Its also just bad game design not to have a "reward" at the end of the dungeon, it feels like you did it for nothing. Sure some runes pop up for a second but it doesnt feel very impactful.

  • @piotrpawlus489
    @piotrpawlus489 19 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Community is terrible

  • @moys5100
    @moys5100 44 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Game become repetitive and tiring doing dungeon,quest, weekly tasks why that is not on ur list

  • @konstantinosmavridis6605
    @konstantinosmavridis6605 56 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    You forgot to mention scripts and hacks , GS's one shot almost every class with 1 button , many stuns in the game that gives you no hope to resist and defend yourself also

  • @Denka_
    @Denka_ 57 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Stop making embarrassing videos like this lmao Game is on multiple platforms in which you can't even see the player base numbers. And even on the player base you can see the concurrent users for an mmo is very high. And for anyone who plays the game can clearly see a populated server daily...

  • @henrydehaay
    @henrydehaay ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    i played day 1 non stop for 2 months, FTP, i had 3.7k cp. i quit 3 weeks ago because i got burnt out , i log in did my dungeons and got a blue item, i went to open world dungeon,. open the bags and i got 3 blues and 1 purple with shit traits, than i went to arenas to do the weekly got to play against premades with boss weapons and my team with blues and greens , did my gems dungeons and got 2 shit gems. the system is boring AF, too much pve for a PVP game. also, the CC in this game is Fking stupid, unbalanced , unfair, not fun to play

  • @jessedejesus6632
    @jessedejesus6632 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    It probably has something to do with the abundance of people killing players like me with two button presses. Stunning blow followed by death blow. That gets old really fast. I am sure it must be fun if you are the one with a group of friends running double greatswords.

  • @lixins78
    @lixins78 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    couldnt agree more

  • @NuttyBones
    @NuttyBones ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Did you really said that grinding for pve is fine? So pvp players don't have to farm. Why? Cause they special.? Massive grinding needs to so people can start doing hard stuff.

  • @atlassimulor8512
    @atlassimulor8512 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I agreed with every single words! thank you for summing it up

  • @mikesemus9773
    @mikesemus9773 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Targeting is the worst i have seen in an MMO. Not a fan of the unforgiving dungeon mechanics and requirement to repeat over and over again to get the loot you want, i mean i get they want to encourage cash shop spending, but it really makes the game feel frustrating when you struggle to get a loot chance then get nothing useful for your time and effort. Game feels like it's made solely for 16 hr a day sweat-lords and it's just not realistic to expect long term success based on that requirement. If casuals don't feel they can progress and have fun then they stop playing.

  • @TheOndrayTV
    @TheOndrayTV 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I have collision resistance 900++ and still get knocked up a lot, it's annoying, I feel like collision resistance doesn't work and all those time invested farming to get the collision resistance build had just gone to waste, hence I'm quitting the game.

  • @nocomment4u
    @nocomment4u 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    TH-camrs need to understand that giving titles like : Why is everyone leaving TnL is actually one of the side reasons why people are quitting the game,any game . Please do better if you dont mean harm to the franchise

  • @dukesagami9974
    @dukesagami9974 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    you hate tornado? build collision resistance, annoying yappers

  • @grechoalejandro
    @grechoalejandro 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    They need to improve their servers too!

  • @youab1000
    @youab1000 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    sure let take off tornado from bow and give it to Gs who already have 3 stun dagger and gs spamming in arena

  • @alanlewis619
    @alanlewis619 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    No one is leaving this guy looking for views. another crybaby that should be board and going away soon.

  • @JustinsKeyblade
    @JustinsKeyblade 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Why did they get rid of "kill Records" in the guild???? I liked it :(

  • @iqlogic01
    @iqlogic01 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    HaHa... All the Oldheads elitists from WOW classic came to play Throne of Liberty, and it's the reason for most of the toxicity. Straight facts... Welcome to the Wow classic world.

  • @elvispl100
    @elvispl100 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Yes, sure. Remove tornado, then remove flash wave and then remove bow. Lmao. This is the only thing that bow has for large pvp.

  • @candlemaker4928
    @candlemaker4928 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    SIMPLE PEOPLE ARE QUITING BECAUSE THEY ARE BAD AT THE GAME AND NOT HAVING FUN WITH IT.

  • @AnomitroMunshi
    @AnomitroMunshi 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    quitted after runes, too much for me :(

  • @juanrivera3231
    @juanrivera3231 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The games way too fast paced. Leaving room for nothing to do Bye

  • @XxMisfitsjoshxX
    @XxMisfitsjoshxX 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I’ll save ya 16 mins, POE2 is out now.

  • @davidgannon-g4t
    @davidgannon-g4t 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    ye i put about 500hrs in and i quit cos end game 2 grindy. then the pvp interferes with the grind. also i was playing in asian servers and the guild conglomerates were getting quite annoying calling in eclipses in grind zones and literally throwing 500 to 1000s of pvp players into a farming area. i dont think ill be returning.

  • @Izagamy
    @Izagamy 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    If people stop treating games like jobs (that you don't get paid for) and enjoy the dam game like it is supposed to be, then no issues will appear. Internet in general is toxic af nowdays , be it in game or chat apps/social media. You cant avoid toxicity if you want to keep using internet social services. Pvp players are salty because they have to grind the best of best items in pve content, stop being sweaty and touch some grass. Pvp items are still available elsewhere. Certainly it is harder for a pve player being forced into pvp content. The game is bugged and has faults etc. The game just opened barely 3 months ago. Lower your expectations and give it time to be fixed. Stop being sweaty , its a game not a 2nd life.

  • @danikmoroz2328
    @danikmoroz2328 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    600+ hours and about to leave :( main reason - game is not good at even 2 direction at all: PVP: “This is a pvp” game says lot of ppl. But SO unbalanced, 0skill dependent pvp I never met before. 1. Gvg is only for couple premium nolifers alliances who wipes everybody. There can be couple servers with less of this problem, but 99% it is so. And even there stupid bow CC is just ruining it to their ground 2. Small scale - only 3v3 arenas, 2 maps in “pvp” game. LOL. Just no comments 3. 0 skill combat. Unless u use 1-2 meta class which is either smth with dagger with superior kit or GS with stun lock and 1shot. And sooo gear dependent. 4. Cc is just a joke. Bad joke. Awful one. 5. Arch boss weps just ruined game even further and available for couple swipes/nolifers alliances. PVE: screwed up even tho had potential. 1. Interesting mechanics in dungeons - yes. Tutorials - no. 2. Random q - yes. Realization of it - awful. Managed to at tune it at least somehow after 3 months 🤦‍♂️ 3. Vote kick - just a joke. This appparantly leads to the main game problem - toxicity. I NEVER ever saw such a toxic community in pve oriented game division, it’s just insane. Game has no interesting story telling. Game has nothing special in major aspects: pvp and pve. It has some nice graphics, some challenges and a vast build crafting potential, until u meet and actual content and realize it’s all gonna be multiplied by zero :(

  • @Re4pErChu
    @Re4pErChu 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Sick, better drop chances

  • @Lorespade
    @Lorespade 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    pretty true. i hate pve, but i only do it to get mastery and i hate dungions because its too hard for me. adhd. but pvp is fun but now im getting weaker without runes... kinda thinking about quitting tbh.

  • @demianpelos
    @demianpelos 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Each weapon skill have like 2 page descriptions on what they do... Is so much research

  • @demianpelos
    @demianpelos 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Issue is developers dont speak English and dont watch this videos so they jave no idea what the world thinks. Amazon fico and the other lame girl dont do anything beside read patch notes in TH-cam

  • @demianpelos
    @demianpelos 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Playing at the game schedule os horrible! I have few hrs per day and when i log is night? Or i dont get world bosses? O when i am going to get rain? Players should be able to do all content anytime maybe siege not. But really that what is pushing people away

  • @demianpelos
    @demianpelos 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Every 2 hrs the game stop night pvp in open doungones every olayer leaves the pñace to avoid getting gank

  • @demianpelos
    @demianpelos 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I haven't even level up my 2 weponds that i started with and now there is new spear. I haven't even play with the rest of tbe other weponds. Horrible is impossible to explore other weapons builds,, gear horrible you need to know your build before you start the game so you can aim for it months beforehand

  • @demianpelos
    @demianpelos 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Is toxic because there are incompetent players that still today dont block attacks

  • @demianpelos
    @demianpelos 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    They got way yo greedy woth the amount of people in a fight. Having 50 ppl you have no idea what's going on and is just a range aoe party. Lame for melee

  • @demianpelos
    @demianpelos 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    One mage in pvp can kill 100+ players?

  • @demianpelos
    @demianpelos 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Be a game that all is around pvp, the pvp is horrible is just going to an event dir in 2 sec from friendly fore aoe. Who think that is fun? When was avery sinple thing. Blue team vs red team. Red cant hurt red, blue cant hurt blue

  • @victormontivero1998
    @victormontivero1998 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    ZvZ is crap becouse is Guild focus rather than faction focus, just that change will solve a lot of issues. Arenas design are really really bad and this is not something they should not take long to get better. Q block and movement is not great, not consistent and that makes you don't want to grind, in games where I enjoyed the combat sometimes I was just farming mobs for the sake of doing it, here I can't stomatch to do weekly contracts. Game still have potencial but in general they need to solve some thinks quicker.

  • @demianpelos
    @demianpelos 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The character movement still horrible. Still looks that keep the code for when the game was going to be isometric

  • @demianpelos
    @demianpelos 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Because the amount of effort vs reward is horrible!

  • @chrisvalen
    @chrisvalen 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The game isnt dead but dying. Things they did wrong - Allowed Pvpers to stop people from going after end game bosses by standing in the way when the portals should have been there a while ago to stop this - the Toxic people who became kick happy once they were allowed to kick and most people were kicking people like it was a fucking achievement!! - The toxic players that would talk down to players that didnt pay to power level or didnt cheat their way to the top or when 2 stars came out would kick you if you didnt have 3k power lvl, you had blues or you blocked your characters gear / if you didn't have a setuo rotation that they considered meta - pvpers with cheating mods that there are TH-cam videos showing that if you clicked stun on a player theirs would autocounter it and stun you after counter blocking (if you need a mod to cheat you are a micro penis virgin "Facts") - lack of more story / i mean you could become 50 in 5 days (it took months for other games) (this was a bad idea) In 1 month, I comepleted every story sidequest. Wow has YEARS of story, lore, side quests, RAIDS, dungeons, etc etc But the major thing was Toxic Elitist gamers who thought they knew it all and would talk down to everyone. This should have be curved quickly on the forums and games, but they did NOTHING!!

  • @unvacations
    @unvacations 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    so PVP player is not okay to grind, but PVE player is ok to be force doing PVP?. and the GVG is so dumb with mega alliances

  • @oOKozukeOo
    @oOKozukeOo 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    exacto eso de las estadisticas deerian de describirlas mejor.

  • @memebro3181
    @memebro3181 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Why? Path of Exile2 and Marvel Rivals.

  • @EurrikkeEdward
    @EurrikkeEdward 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Not as fast as new world- TWICE

  • @chris53156
    @chris53156 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Why wouldn’t you want the adentus sword or Juno ? Adentus has high base dmg and Juno is the highest base dmg with a buff when you add shock and stun ?

  • @Catto217
    @Catto217 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The biggest problem for me is the autochange mode that caused annoying delay when I just want to fkn type a CHAT while using controller, and the targetting system using crosshair is stupid 🙄

  • @ティムソン
    @ティムソン 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Wish they will removed stamina when using Grapple and Dash/Swim Morp. I understand if they wont removed stamina for Flying because they want you to Swim to Sauro Island at night but for Dash if you get hit by mob your stamina starts draining which is so annoying.

  • @PanPonury
    @PanPonury 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I quit this game, because PvE felt like a chore. PvP was all about fighting to secure more PvE. Nearly all events were: kill monsters for tokens and bring the tokens somewhere. Game is pressuring you to use all tokens not to "lose out", effectively requiring you to do very repetitive PvE content or risk being outgeared in PvP later. Far too much CC and very little counterplay in PvP. Mass PvP mostly about who casts their tornados and flash waves first. No target cap, so 1 person can hit 50 with 1 skill. Graphics were nice, story line was fun to do once, some systems were fine, skills are reasonably balanced in PvE. T2 monsters and bosses are far too tanky, for a repetitive content.