*Note:* In the first calculation, the "Base Damage 2" value is incorrectly shown. It should be 224 - 366 base damage. The average damage and all calculations are still correct. Was just a simple typo. *Bonus Damage:* Since a lot of people dont understand Bonus Damage. Here you go: so "bonus damage" gives you on each hit you are doing your "bonus damage" as additional damage. So for example if you have 15 "bonus damage" and you using your guillotine blade and it hits for 10k then you just add 15 bonus damage. so you would deal 10k + 15 damage. but if you are using a skill that hits 5 times or 10 times then on each hit you are doing the bonus damage comes on top. This is not counting for DOTs. And for the most part only XBow players are utilizing that. Of course there are some skills from certain weapons that can utilize bonus damage but for the most part its only useful for XBow players. A lot of people think that behind "bonus damage" is a factor or whatsoever but its not. 15 bonus damage are just 15 additional damage on each hit you are doing. *Secondary/Primary Base Damage:* Maybe one thing that was not super clear explained from my side. If you use a spell from the bow then it uses the base damage from the bow and when you use a skill from the staff then it uses the base damage from the staff. For the calculation it does *NOT* matter which weapon is in that moment your primary weapon.
This comment has been 10times more useful than most of the garbage vids I've seen about damage this month, I'm a GS/LB user and had a real har time deciding to go bonus DMG or crit DMG. please explain more about common stats like crit and how much it boost DMG or how endurance works in PvE, or evasion, hit, etc soft caps for PvE/pvp
so if i use staff skills with dagger main hand it still takes the base dmg of the staff, not the dagger right? but that doesnt count for the rest of the stats like attack speed etc right or that aswell? like casting time for staff etc
From my own testing based on willbreaker diffs, and values taken from maxroll video, it looks like the formula is dmgTaken = 100% * defense / (defense + 2750)
Please note that attack speed also plays a part. If one weapon has higher base damage but lower attack speed (0.5 seconds stat means 120 hits per minute), it could be lower than lower base attack * higher speed (0.4 seconds stat is 150 hits per minute)
Then also cooldowns play a part in long-term dps. Attack speed is no good if you throw all your skills and then auto-attack for N seconds. But then for some weapons you need to be able to combo, like use guillotine while enemy is prone. Take too long to charge and you loose big dps. It's a complicated game :D
Well, I have both karnix and toublek fully traited and here’s my 5 cents: Karnix better damage. Even tho toublek faster and more cd, just the extra base dmg and heavy chance from karnix will out dps the toublek easily. Maybe in very long fights toublek can shine, to take advantage of its skill but that’s very situational. But biggest factor for switching to Karnix was because its much easier to build around.
Skills scale off base dmg and are your main source of dmg Atkspeed legit only matters for pvp burst dmg because for everything else youre capped by cooldowns
Well... actually i learned a lot. As wand user i was ignoring pretty much base damage and stats, since i just focused on heals and buff durations in my gvg, but now that i see this, my heal gets boosted by base dmg, and my curses too, so basically the 30 str and 20 percepcion i'm missing from purple accesories and helmet are kinda HUGE i guess. Time to farm lucent to buy traits for accesories so i get those juicy 40-50 stat points. I didn't use the 4 purple accesories like yours because they don't have full traits yet, but i think i will use them anyways with lvl 2-3 traits instead of full lvl 4 each, if stats are so important, i'm missing a lot of damage and healing power, but it didn't felt right to swap tier 3 blue traits for tier 1-2 purple traits yet TYVM!
Amazing video, I can't believe that's how the numbers work! Base min and base max damage changing independent of each other relative to there corresponding stats!
Hey, one problem with the calculation I've noticed here is - I think that the "+ value" is actually added to base damage before the percentage multiplication. Tested example: Staff's fireball max level is "510% damage +516". On dummies, I hit 11k with it. Default meteor is "1110% damage +123". It hits about 3k. The fireball is vastly superior in damage because it is adding 516 to my base damage, and then doing the multiplication, while meteor is inferrior because it has much less base damage addition. I don't know if this is a bug, or specific to staff skills, or global and intended - but it is producing consistent results currently - so skills with a high "+damage" hit harder generally.
I just tested it with fireall again and may calculation is 100% correct. how to test: 1. go to Kastelon to the single dummy near the weapn crafter (the dummy has no armor... so you can easy test things) 2. fire ball 510%+516 is damage you do if you not charge the skill. so you just tab the skill. otherwise it deals 120% more damage means: calculation: (510%+516)*2,2 -> (5,1*Base Damage+516)*2,2 3. hit the dummy with the ability till you crit. write down the value. 4. since your are crit you take the max damage for the calculation: (5,1*MAX Damage+516)*2,2 5. now you need to consider skill damage boost on top. for this you need first to calculate your percentage skill damage boost: [SDB in %] = SDB/(SDB+1000) 6. final formula: (5,1*MAX Damage+516)*2,2 * (1+[SDB in %]) dont use any crit multipliers. for example bow passive or harvester set and so on. have fun testing. if you have further questions let me know :)
@@dracwahlssit’s 1% for each CRITICAL HIT. And for the 50% to apply your skill needs to hit a marked enemy. Which part isn’t working for you? The 50% or the 1% reduction per critical hit.
@hirotakasugi4891 there's a 50%!!! Haha the 50% never pops for me the critical .5 sec works sometimes I notice if there more than 1. But I'm always hitting the marked target.
Little off on the bow. You have to remember Karn bow is more of a strength setup. Toublek is more dex. Karn base: 142-380. Toublex 131-373. So more of a 1-2% difference. For the bow users out there.
It's important to realise that it's not just about the flat numbers. If one weapon has 10% attack speed and the other 20% but does less damage then you have to actually do some calculation for a specific time span, not just "this weapon does 400 damage and this 350".
That's not entirely accurate. Attack speed for dps in this game is not as important cause it just makes you cast spells faster, but those are still limited by cool downs. So this means that a faster weapon may make you dish out your rotation faster, but unless this makes you save several seconds it won't really provide extra dps in the bigger picture. THAT SAID, attack speed is very important on pvp, as its a key component for assassin characters to kill their target fast enough before they can react accordingly.
Glad somebody broke this down as this was my exact suspension, I'm a Karnix enjoyer mainly cuz I play Bow/dagger so my CRIT chance/damage will be higher which is why I chose Karnix
I am a full crit build as well. But something he pointed out, is that wisdom and dexterity give more max damage than strength and perception. Atm, I have 70 dexterity, 60 str. I am going to switch to 50 str and add those 10 to wis to raise my max base. But, for overall dps as a crit based build, would it be better to go no str and push for 60 wis? The logic being to raise my base max damage to its highest since I'm critting almost %70? I think the main question is, does the higher max damage from 60 wisdom, with lower heavy attack chance outperform 50 str and 150 chance to heavy attack? My initial thought is just committing to crit chance and raising the base base max damage.
@@nelmarmarasigan2276 Nah, I'm currently 50STR, 40DEX, 30PER with like 17 WIS. So overreliance on a single stat or 2 stats will cause a lot of diminishing returns. 50STR is a must for me, mainly because it provides survivability as well as Heavy Attack Chance, which atm is a really rare stat and also a hard to counter in PvP too. If you're going PvE, I'd change it to 50-40-40-?
@@nelmarmarasigan2276all situational really and depends on build(I am bow/staff)but essentially, for pve(mobs) I go all Dex and wisdom to get through content faster(mine is 70dex 38wis 30per with 46% cooldown from gear and can solo all open world dungeon boss rooms(just utilize your block a lot and don’t overwhelm yourself) For pvp, you want to go 50str 50perception (60 perception if possible) My pvp set up is 50/46/14/50 For single target boss fights I find this set up most efficient: 50str 60dex 20wis 30per To summarize: all dex and wis for easy casual content. 50str 50perc 30+ dex for pvp. 50str 60dex for boss.
I loved the breakdown, can you make a short breakdown for bonus damage in crossbow setups? You said it's important to know what you are losing with the toublek and karnix base damage comparison. I love the stormbringer xbows for the range but I feel pressured to use the rex xbow.
Bonus damage from phantom wolf set (2 pieces) and Bracers of the primal king, is added after the calculation "base dmg x 500% etc" or before? Is it even worth getting any bonus damage if you arent a crossbow class?
aridus is base damage increase which is insanly strong. but you can only trigger that in PVE. staff is bad in PVP. 15 bonus damage from dex is more or less only relevant for xbow players
question. do i get mastery stats from the off hand wep? example, im using staff dagger, wehn im wielding staff i know it uses mastery stats from that wep, but im not sure for the offhand dagger? or does it use only small nodes or large nodes in mastery?
Your Mastery is active dependent on which weapon you are using. Your auto attack weapon mastery will be active when you are not using skills of your secondary. As far as I know, your secondary weapons Mastery is active while using a skill for that weapon, regardless of which weapon is on main hand. I could be wrong but this is my understanding.
If you separate the efects in defensive/ofensive/utility stats.... not 100% sure exactly where to draw the line (couln't find a relliable source) but, as a rule of thumb defensive efects are only active when you have said weapon equiped (that's why most dagger users use dagger as primary, for the evasion pasive, another example, if you use a weapon that gives bonus hp, it only applies if you have it equiped first) and ofensive effects only when use that weapon skills (base damage increase, crit damage, hit chance, etc) The ones i'm not sure are utility efects like attack speed, cooldown reduction, buff duration, i couln't find solid info about this... i tend to belive this are based on equiped weapon but i have not tested it (special doubt about attack speed, the others i tend to belive are based on equiped weapon)
Can you also compare karnix bow and grand aelon? Switched to grand aelon recently added attack speed feels like i kill faster but not sure maybe karnix better bcus of base damage. Attack speed helping my flashwave and decisive sniping mostly and its a huge plus
@grobs4678 I'm playing staff/wand dps for a pure mage build. I know bow/staff is higher dps, but i want to stay with my character concept for now. Im more focused on staff offense + DoT. Not a huge fan of curse explosion since it removes all the burning stacks.
if you want to achieve the highest max damage then you go for dex and wisdom. these stats increase more max damage per points than str and perception. we have 50 stat points to spend, but after we spend 20 on a single stat it will take 2 stat point to increase 1 stat. because of that reason it is best to not spend more than 20 stat point on a single stat. In ideal scenario, the best we could do to gain max damage but also to gain max benefits (ex: dex not only increase max damage but also crit, atk spd and evasion. Other stat have different benefits) is to spend 20 dex, 20 wisdom, and 10 for other (STR ot PER depending on your build and weapons your using. It can also be splitted between the 2). There is an exception. If you have 39 dex its fine for you to use 2 stat points in order to achieve 40 dex since you could get the milestone bonus stat (you got it from reaching 30,40,50,60,70 in any stat) however ideally you should avoid above conditions in the first place by managing(choosing the correct one) your gear to achieve the stat milestone without putting more than 20 stat point in a single stat. Prioritize dex then wisdom then other stat for your gear to achieve highest damage output.
I don't use blood devotion, means my party do even more damage, means they do 17% or more contribution, means they get higher chances of drops. Leaving me down as a tank that i already dont do any damage...
If you are doing World boss switch to Single Target Damage Build (basically a version of PvP build). You only need Provoke and maybe one or 2 specialization to keep aggro. Learn how to adapt your build to the content. I have got 2 WB drops from using Single Target Build as SNS/GS. basic rotation: Da vinci > provoke > stunning blow > death blow (charged with spec) > will breaker > ascending slash > Guillotine blade (charged with spec) When rotation is on cooldown use: Counter barrier > Shield Strike > Precision dash > Cruel Smite (valiant brawl) > Shield strike . Can add Gaia Crash with attack speed increase specialization if you want as well.
My Greatsword/Dagger main has mostly epic gear with few traits, 60 dex, and 0 heavy attack chance thanks to lack of traits, but constantly pulls aggro off tanks and melts 50K hp enemies in a matter of seconds, but no fully-traited blue alt that I have can do the same. Base dmg + base stats will also have priority just like every other mmo
Can you help me understand why lequirus daggers are better than kowazan daggers? To me it just seems like kowazan daggers would be better even though lequirus daggers passive is good
not an dagger expert... kowazan comes with more base damage which is good but who is actually dealing damage with daggers? especially in large scale? does the base damage you are getting from the lequirus daggers also count for your secondary weapon? so your staff/bow/xbow then it would make a lot of sense because for those weapon combinations your main damage is not coming from the daggers. if you could buff your damage with the daggers for your main weapon... thats really nice... additionally it gives more stats which also already gives your more base damage for your main weapon. as mentioned not an expert on daggers but hat would be my quick thoughts :)
@@grobs4678 personally i dont really care too much for pvp and im dagger/gs with more emphasis on daggers, but you're right, the base damage buff on lequirus counts on both weapons so i'll probably just stick with them
Maybe was not super clear explained from my side. If you use a spell from the bow then it uses the base damage from the bow and when you use a skill from the staff then it uses the base damage from the staff. For the calculation it does NOT matter which weapon is in that moment your primary weapon.
Not entirely true. Your secondary weapon will not grant you its small weapon mastery skills - only the large nodes. So in the case of GS, you do lose a few minor bonuses from that.
Depends on class and skill used as well. For instance, on SNS Counter Barrier will not activate if SNS is not on your main hand. Meaning you should be on SNS main if using that skill.
The damage for a screw I don’t believe that that’s correct because there’s actual numbers listed for in various places but the way you’re saying it it specifically you’re talking a skill credit skill damage credit if trying to use your max space damage what about damage is there additional damage or why do they list damage in certain location?
sure. so "bonus damage" gives you on each hit you are doing your "bonus damage" as additional damage. So for example if you have 15 "bonus damage" and you using your guillotine blade and it hits for 10k then you just add 15 bonus damage. so you would deal 10k + 15 damage. but if you are using a skill that hits 5 times or 10 times then on each hit you are doing the bonus damage comes on top. This is not counting for DOTs. And for the most part only XBow players are utilizing that. Of course there are some skills from certain weapons that can utilize bonus damage but for the most part its only useful for XBow players. A lot of people think that behind "bonus damage" is a factor or whatsoever but its not. 15 bonus damage are just giving 15 additional damage on each hit you are doing.
@@grobs4678 What about Spectrum of Agony passive? If there are many provoked enemies around you it hits very frequently, do we get that bonus damage for every instance?
cd would be better over karnix in all ways tbh more casting = faster and more deeps than the karnix so enjoy thats the difference :D and karnix is just more safe and higher deeps slow deeps too compared to the karnix you gain maybe 2-3 more hits in with the toublek than karnix
yeah... adentus is even better then epic tier 2 greatswords. atleast when it comes to damage... you lose the nice effect on the new T2 GS but its still insanly strong
Now that this video has come out evasion builds will be a bit more viable, the end game gears gives more stats for base damage but that would mean you have to sacrifice hit chance gears.
That is not true. Evasion builds have been viable the entire time and will continue to be viable (at least into t2 where it seems a shift "may" be made to endu) , If you build properly you aren't going to have hit issues. Many classes take 0 pieces of gear with hit on them in end game builds, mastery , passives, perception , food shore up weak points. If you feel evasion isn't viable now, You dont have good enough gear , enough traits or are spreading yourself WAY too thin trying to cover all 3.
evasion build is viable even know. A lot of youtuber said otherwise which is odd. they do not pay attention to how ez to get crits compared to hit.Also to get endurance its actually the same or even harder than evasion. This is because people for good reason love to stack dex ( increase high max damage, crit, atk spd, evasion). When you check the available gears now, you could see a lot of crits and less hits. Anyone that alr put some time for research would agree that reaching 2k crit is much easier than hit. same goes for evasion and endurance.
My Highest Damage I ever seen was to a DUKE MAGNA Raid boss. I'm a 3180 Combat Power GS/SNS "Tank" I hit the Raid for 25 000 + Heavy attack so its 50 000 Damage ? (with lvl 4 guillotine not maxed out, also No blood devotion. I never ever used it in my build. After this video I should start using it lol )
um extra base damage is distributed evenly to min and max values. 100-200 attack plus 50 is 25 to min, plus 25 to max = 50 so 100-200 attack plus 50 base damage goes to 125-225
sometimes I ask myself: where do these guys get there information from? obviously that completely bullshit and you notice it if you just test one skill. but I am curios where do you get your information from that you now feel confident on posting that on this video. if you dont trust me take a friend and test out "blood devotion" or use "strategic rush" (SNS push ability) and use it against a dummy. BUT please stop spredding misinformation..
So for a pure healing build Bow/Staff the best choice is to grab the most stats you can so your base dmg is higher then higher your heals? Karnix would be the right choice? ignoring the range passive. etc.
I would also always go karnix as a heal yes. in PVE just because of the base damage. But in PVP especially because the additional range from toublek is not really beneficial because you Wand has anyways a 14m range. and additionally you are getting strength which is way better as a heal in PVP because you want to reach the 70 strength threshold.
Base damage boost from skills and mastery only adds on MAX damage not Base damage (lowest roll possible) tested it now. Unless it's a bug, your damage increase % calculation is not accurate.
thats not true ^^ every skill with base damage works like that ....except its mentioned like for example high focus with the upgrade where you only get additional "max damage". I tested all the stuff ^^
@@Nick11156 you are right for masteries. for masteries I didnt tested it. They seem to give only max damage. which is of course still really good but for sure not as good as I thought. but for skills I tested it for different stuff and it always gives you min and max damage. you can easy check this with strategic rush. just use it against a dummy and you see your min and max damage going up. but thanks for letting me know for the masteries :)
Bro i was following your sentinel guide, i did and i like it but i saw many peoples using different skills and skill specs mostly using gs skills and pssives can you make a new sentinel build please
my build is still up to date. of course there are different builds out there and some of them might be also good BUT please be careful on who you trust. There is so much TRASH content out on youtube. 95% of the guides for PVE are trash IF you like to min/max stuff. But if you have different build that looks fun for you. Go ahead and try it and even if might be worse in DPS then mine maybe its more fun for you. Because in the end thats just what its all about :) *I will always all of my builds
@@grobs4678 the problem is they have burst damage and much faster then us. I wasnt talk about the other youtubers but mostly i saw they using gs skill with charge and focusing on burst damage our sentinel build much like dot and not burst. love you ty for comment and your time.
I knew that you where talking about that :D BUT burst is bad in PVE ^^ everyone plays with the chargeable skills but thats just burst and burst you only need in PVP but in PVE you only care about DPS. you only have big damage number but lower DPS (If you play with a lot of attackspeed). but if you want to have big damage numbers then go ahead and take the chargeable skills. just try out for urself :) if its works better for you then you have your answer ^^
@@mahmutcanbagci9480 sentinel needs alot of skill adjustments based on the situation you are facing,you simply can't have 1 build for everything, there is no need for him to make a new video,just read what your skills do watch what others are doing and try to understand your class...
@@CloudMV dude i know what i am saying, i see my friends also playing sentinel build and with charge skills and in every peace or guild boss they getting items and guess who cant. We are almost same cp the only diff is im using alot skill and they using charge skills for burst and high dmg. Thats what i am saying 🤔
explained it already in an other comment: so "bonus damage" gives you on each hit you are doing your "bonus damage" as additional damage. So for example if you have 15 "bonus damage" and you using your guillotine blade and it hits for 10k then you just add 15 bonus damage. so you would deal 10k + 15 damage. but if you are using a skill that hits 5 times or 10 times then on each hit you are doing the bonus damage comes on top. This is not counting for DOTs. And for the most part only XBow players are utilizing that. Of course there are some skills from certain weapons that can utilize bonus damage but for the most part its only useful for XBow players. A lot of people think that behind "bonus damage" is a factor or whatsoever but its not. 15 bonus damage are just giving 15 additional damage on each hit you are doing.
@@grobs4678 i disagree when it comes to bonus damage being only used by crossbowers; why wouldn't i want extra damage for every single hit i do? as far as i know it's not specific for skill damage, right?
Push that your use of the term broken is just a cloak wheel live or slang word meaning powerful, not broken powerful broken brain says an exploiter of bug. That’s what the word means. Literally means that it’s not working as intended. There’s something wrong broke it. Your pencil is broken means that you stamped it in half or you broke the lead brokenthumb down.
what? :D I am confused xD but in the gaming scene the term "broken" is used for "overpowered" "too strong" and so on. you can even just ask chat gpt for synonyms of the word in the gaming scene :D
no. skill damage boost does not work like hit. hit and crit work depending on the enemy's endurance and evasion. but skill damage boost works as mentioned in the video. its just a multiplier independent of the enemy's stats.
I am not an expert on that field BUT as a bow/staff I would go for Karnix just because you CANT utilize the additional range anyways because you staff is capped at 17.6m range. going for a bow with 19.2m range is completely useless I feel :S as bow/dagger it can be really good because you dont need to align the weapon ranges. But yeah that would be my take on it.
@@grobs4678 What's the max possible range? I read somewhere that it's capped at 30 meters but I couldn't find the items to reach even 26 meters, best I can do is 33.2% range increase I need it purely to tag mobs from the distance during farming, then I'd swap to my actual set
@@grobs4678 even with bow/dagger you have to walk forward to reach shadow strike's maximum range in order to use ankle strike/thunderclouds without losing your rapid fire passive on your bow. toublek just isn't it really, in any scenario. the cd reduction is nice but it's barely anything in the overall scheme of things.
@@mr.vanwinters Rule number 1 in PvP MMO's , let the people who are wrong continue to believe they're right. Just makes it easier on everyone else lol.
Bow is broken now now we understand the car expo is broken. In fact any weapon that has a high base damage or higher base damage is more broken. If that’s a word more broker broker broker than the other two boat broker, the car is broker than the two small because both of them are higher base damage than most other votes so they are both broker, but one is broker than the other.
Its not broken. This type of wording is what drives devs to nerf the fun out of every aspect of the game. Leaving a boring mess of skills and weapons that all feel the same. Give your head a shake and just enjoy the game.
you can't read I guess, that devotion perk doesn't increase any base damage, it increase damage inflicted TO your party member by 50 flat... ahahah bro you are ...
STOP with click bait thumbnails like "This is broken". This is a sure fire way to make sure that devs start nerfing the fun out of the game. TH-camrs and streamers need to learn when to STFU about things and keep it to themselves.
*Note:* In the first calculation, the "Base Damage 2" value is incorrectly shown. It should be 224 - 366 base damage. The average damage and all calculations are still correct. Was just a simple typo.
*Bonus Damage:* Since a lot of people dont understand Bonus Damage. Here you go: so "bonus damage" gives you on each hit you are doing your "bonus damage" as additional damage. So for example if you have 15 "bonus damage" and you using your guillotine blade and it hits for 10k then you just add 15 bonus damage. so you would deal 10k + 15 damage. but if you are using a skill that hits 5 times or 10 times then on each hit you are doing the bonus damage comes on top. This is not counting for DOTs. And for the most part only XBow players are utilizing that. Of course there are some skills from certain weapons that can utilize bonus damage but for the most part its only useful for XBow players. A lot of people think that behind "bonus damage" is a factor or whatsoever but its not. 15 bonus damage are just 15 additional damage on each hit you are doing.
*Secondary/Primary Base Damage:* Maybe one thing that was not super clear explained from my side. If you use a spell from the bow then it uses the base damage from the bow and when you use a skill from the staff then it uses the base damage from the staff. For the calculation it does *NOT* matter which weapon is in that moment your primary weapon.
This comment has been 10times more useful than most of the garbage vids I've seen about damage this month, I'm a GS/LB user and had a real har time deciding to go bonus DMG or crit DMG.
please explain more about common stats like crit and how much it boost DMG or how endurance works in PvE, or evasion, hit, etc soft caps for PvE/pvp
@@ChArMiN117 watch my endurance vs evasion vid. I explain there a lot :)
what would happen if... you equip 2 bows (for any reason)? it won't add base damage for sure, right?
@@tachirasonline961 no :D
so if i use staff skills with dagger main hand it still takes the base dmg of the staff, not the dagger right? but that doesnt count for the rest of the stats like attack speed etc right or that aswell? like casting time for staff etc
Super efficient and straight to the point video. No extra fluff, loves it
would love to see a breakdown about defenses like this (not evasion or endurance but literally the defense)
A video for this exists, and it acts like the damage reduction stat
From my own testing based on willbreaker diffs, and values taken from maxroll video, it looks like the formula is dmgTaken = 100% * defense / (defense + 2750)
Please note that attack speed also plays a part. If one weapon has higher base damage but lower attack speed (0.5 seconds stat means 120 hits per minute), it could be lower than lower base attack * higher speed (0.4 seconds stat is 150 hits per minute)
Then also cooldowns play a part in long-term dps. Attack speed is no good if you throw all your skills and then auto-attack for N seconds.
But then for some weapons you need to be able to combo, like use guillotine while enemy is prone. Take too long to charge and you loose big dps.
It's a complicated game :D
Unless that one person has one hard hitting skill that makes up for it
Well, I have both karnix and toublek fully traited and here’s my 5 cents:
Karnix better damage. Even tho toublek faster and more cd, just the extra base dmg and heavy chance from karnix will out dps the toublek easily. Maybe in very long fights toublek can shine, to take advantage of its skill but that’s very situational.
But biggest factor for switching to Karnix was because its much easier to build around.
Skills scale off base dmg and are your main source of dmg
Atkspeed legit only matters for pvp burst dmg because for everything else youre capped by cooldowns
@@NineSinsif u talk about pve then yes otherwise attack speed is good. Attack speed affect ur skill casting and animation too.
Well... actually i learned a lot. As wand user i was ignoring pretty much base damage and stats, since i just focused on heals and buff durations in my gvg, but now that i see this, my heal gets boosted by base dmg, and my curses too, so basically the 30 str and 20 percepcion i'm missing from purple accesories and helmet are kinda HUGE i guess. Time to farm lucent to buy traits for accesories so i get those juicy 40-50 stat points. I didn't use the 4 purple accesories like yours because they don't have full traits yet, but i think i will use them anyways with lvl 2-3 traits instead of full lvl 4 each, if stats are so important, i'm missing a lot of damage and healing power, but it didn't felt right to swap tier 3 blue traits for tier 1-2 purple traits yet
TYVM!
Amazing video, I can't believe that's how the numbers work! Base min and base max damage changing independent of each other relative to there corresponding stats!
Hey, one problem with the calculation I've noticed here is - I think that the "+ value" is actually added to base damage before the percentage multiplication.
Tested example: Staff's fireball max level is "510% damage +516". On dummies, I hit 11k with it. Default meteor is "1110% damage +123". It hits about 3k.
The fireball is vastly superior in damage because it is adding 516 to my base damage, and then doing the multiplication, while meteor is inferrior because it has much less base damage addition. I don't know if this is a bug, or specific to staff skills, or global and intended - but it is producing consistent results currently - so skills with a high "+damage" hit harder generally.
I just tested it with fireall again and may calculation is 100% correct. how to test:
1. go to Kastelon to the single dummy near the weapn crafter (the dummy has no armor... so you can easy test things)
2. fire ball 510%+516 is damage you do if you not charge the skill. so you just tab the skill. otherwise it deals 120% more damage means: calculation: (510%+516)*2,2 -> (5,1*Base Damage+516)*2,2
3. hit the dummy with the ability till you crit. write down the value.
4. since your are crit you take the max damage for the calculation: (5,1*MAX Damage+516)*2,2
5. now you need to consider skill damage boost on top. for this you need first to calculate your percentage skill damage boost: [SDB in %] = SDB/(SDB+1000)
6. final formula: (5,1*MAX Damage+516)*2,2 * (1+[SDB in %])
dont use any crit multipliers. for example bow passive or harvester set and so on. have fun testing. if you have further questions let me know :)
I would love to see some breakdowns on cool down reduction coming from deadly mark. Thanks for the video. It was excellent.
It seems bugged half the time. The other half the time my 30 to 40 sec cds are being used every 5 to 10 seconds 😂
@@dracwahlssNot bugged but it stacks if you have multiple bows using it :)
@Elwendryll I mean, I know that they stack, but even when I have just mine on a boss, I'm not getting any cd.
@@dracwahlssit’s 1% for each CRITICAL HIT. And for the 50% to apply your skill needs to hit a marked enemy.
Which part isn’t working for you? The 50% or the 1% reduction per critical hit.
@hirotakasugi4891 there's a 50%!!! Haha the 50% never pops for me the critical .5 sec works sometimes I notice if there more than 1. But I'm always hitting the marked target.
Thanks very helpful.
Btw.what is your nvdia control panel and in game settings?
Little off on the bow. You have to remember Karn bow is more of a strength setup. Toublek is more dex. Karn base: 142-380. Toublex 131-373. So more of a 1-2% difference. For the bow users out there.
I don't get it. Why is only 1-2% and not 9-10%?
Is bonus damage really only worth using for bow users?
@@Hyst44 Yes now if you had Tev's Bow. Then I can see the bonus damage being a plus.
It's important to realise that it's not just about the flat numbers. If one weapon has 10% attack speed and the other 20% but does less damage then you have to actually do some calculation for a specific time span, not just "this weapon does 400 damage and this 350".
That's not entirely accurate. Attack speed for dps in this game is not as important cause it just makes you cast spells faster, but those are still limited by cool downs. So this means that a faster weapon may make you dish out your rotation faster, but unless this makes you save several seconds it won't really provide extra dps in the bigger picture.
THAT SAID, attack speed is very important on pvp, as its a key component for assassin characters to kill their target fast enough before they can react accordingly.
Thats why all my gear pieces have base stats, the damage increase is clearly noticeable.
Some EPICCC info in here. thank youuuuu!!!. keep these goin
Glad somebody broke this down as this was my exact suspension, I'm a Karnix enjoyer mainly cuz I play Bow/dagger so my CRIT chance/damage will be higher which is why I chose Karnix
I am a full crit build as well. But something he pointed out, is that wisdom and dexterity give more max damage than strength and perception. Atm, I have 70 dexterity, 60 str. I am going to switch to 50 str and add those 10 to wis to raise my max base.
But, for overall dps as a crit based build, would it be better to go no str and push for 60 wis? The logic being to raise my base max damage to its highest since I'm critting almost %70? I think the main question is, does the higher max damage from 60 wisdom, with lower heavy attack chance outperform 50 str and 150 chance to heavy attack?
My initial thought is just committing to crit chance and raising the base base max damage.
@@nelmarmarasigan2276your crit is not 70%
@@nelmarmarasigan2276 Nah, I'm currently 50STR, 40DEX, 30PER with like 17 WIS. So overreliance on a single stat or 2 stats will cause a lot of diminishing returns. 50STR is a must for me, mainly because it provides survivability as well as Heavy Attack Chance, which atm is a really rare stat and also a hard to counter in PvP too.
If you're going PvE, I'd change it to 50-40-40-?
@@nelmarmarasigan2276 also DEX is overall more valuable due to CRIT, but you don't want to overstack it
@@nelmarmarasigan2276all situational really and depends on build(I am bow/staff)but essentially, for pve(mobs) I go all Dex and wisdom to get through content faster(mine is 70dex 38wis 30per with 46% cooldown from gear and can solo all open world dungeon boss rooms(just utilize your block a lot and don’t overwhelm yourself)
For pvp, you want to go 50str 50perception (60 perception if possible) My pvp set up is 50/46/14/50
For single target boss fights I find this set up most efficient:
50str
60dex
20wis
30per
To summarize: all dex and wis for easy casual content. 50str 50perc
30+ dex for pvp. 50str 60dex for boss.
Maybe if the translation on skills would be correct, more people would use them... Some descriptions on skills are very missleading
100% yes...
Blood devotion also procs counter barrier on SnS fyi -even if you are not in range or LoS of the person attacking a connected ally
this is why universal power ring is extremely good.
yes
@@grobs4678 picked mine up yesterday. don't think i'll be replacing it for a long time so figured it was worth the purchase price.
I sold it week 2 not knowing it was good lol
@@strawhatshadow7007 :S
@strawhatshadow7007 hopefully you made bank off of it.
I loved the breakdown, can you make a short breakdown for bonus damage in crossbow setups?
You said it's important to know what you are losing with the toublek and karnix base damage comparison. I love the stormbringer xbows for the range but I feel pressured to use the rex xbow.
I wrote an explanation in the pinned comment :)
Bonus damage doesnt increase base dmg its a flat dmg add to your attack. So its usefull for xbow and bow straving for the people who didnt understand
pinned comment^^
Bonus damage from phantom wolf set (2 pieces) and Bracers of the primal king, is added after the calculation "base dmg x 500% etc" or before? Is it even worth getting any bonus damage if you arent a crossbow class?
its after. you first calculate everything else and this bonus damage come just on top
@@grobs4678 got it. thanks mate, saved me a lot of trouble!
So it's correct to ignore the bonus damage in accessories like rings if you're not xbow user? For a Bow Staff, it's useless?
you mean skill damage boost? thats a must have on every class
How important is bonus damage for instance aridus staff plus the 15 bonus damage from dexterity?
aridus is base damage increase which is insanly strong. but you can only trigger that in PVE. staff is bad in PVP. 15 bonus damage from dex is more or less only relevant for xbow players
Dude, I was just explaining this to my guild mates last night
now you can link him the vid :P
when i see ppl playing with around 900 hit chance in a T1 meta 2k+ evasion, talking about do damage i be like... wtf he's talking about.
question. do i get mastery stats from the off hand wep? example, im using staff dagger, wehn im wielding staff i know it uses mastery stats from that wep, but im not sure for the offhand dagger? or does it use only small nodes or large nodes in mastery?
Your Mastery is active dependent on which weapon you are using. Your auto attack weapon mastery will be active when you are not using skills of your secondary.
As far as I know, your secondary weapons Mastery is active while using a skill for that weapon, regardless of which weapon is on main hand. I could be wrong but this is my understanding.
If you separate the efects in defensive/ofensive/utility stats....
not 100% sure exactly where to draw the line (couln't find a relliable source)
but, as a rule of thumb defensive efects are only active when you have said weapon equiped (that's why most dagger users use dagger as primary, for the evasion pasive, another example, if you use a weapon that gives bonus hp, it only applies if you have it equiped first) and ofensive effects only when use that weapon skills (base damage increase, crit damage, hit chance, etc)
The ones i'm not sure are utility efects like attack speed, cooldown reduction, buff duration, i couln't find solid info about this... i tend to belive this are based on equiped weapon but i have not tested it (special doubt about attack speed, the others i tend to belive are based on equiped weapon)
I think dagger crit pasive work on bow
what are some good items to find base damage on?
So how good is the wand healing aoe spell when switch it increase base damage by 6% or 5%
Can you also compare karnix bow and grand aelon? Switched to grand aelon recently added attack speed feels like i kill faster but not sure maybe karnix better bcus of base damage. Attack speed helping my flashwave and decisive sniping mostly and its a huge plus
So is it best to balance stat points across all stats, or should some stats be min/maxed?
that totally depends on what you play... in the first place its important to get a lot of stats
@grobs4678 I'm playing staff/wand dps for a pure mage build. I know bow/staff is higher dps, but i want to stay with my character concept for now.
Im more focused on staff offense + DoT. Not a huge fan of curse explosion since it removes all the burning stacks.
@@adonism5569there's a skill spec where it doesn't remove them
if you want to achieve the highest max damage then you go for dex and wisdom. these stats increase more max damage per points than str and perception.
we have 50 stat points to spend, but after we spend 20 on a single stat it will take 2 stat point to increase 1 stat.
because of that reason it is best to not spend more than 20 stat point on a single stat.
In ideal scenario, the best we could do to gain max damage but also to gain max benefits (ex: dex not only increase max damage but also crit, atk spd and evasion. Other stat have different benefits) is to spend 20 dex, 20 wisdom, and 10 for other (STR ot PER depending on your build and weapons your using. It can also be splitted between the 2).
There is an exception. If you have 39 dex its fine for you to use 2 stat points in order to achieve 40 dex since you could get the milestone bonus stat (you got it from reaching 30,40,50,60,70 in any stat)
however ideally you should avoid above conditions in the first place by managing(choosing the correct one) your gear to achieve the stat milestone without putting more than 20 stat point in a single stat.
Prioritize dex then wisdom then other stat for your gear to achieve highest damage output.
I don't use blood devotion, means my party do even more damage, means they do 17% or more contribution, means they get higher chances of drops. Leaving me down as a tank that i already dont do any damage...
loot in dungeon runs isnt given by contribution anymore
If you are doing World boss switch to Single Target Damage Build (basically a version of PvP build). You only need Provoke and maybe one or 2 specialization to keep aggro.
Learn how to adapt your build to the content. I have got 2 WB drops from using Single Target Build as SNS/GS.
basic rotation: Da vinci > provoke > stunning blow > death blow (charged with spec) > will breaker > ascending slash > Guillotine blade (charged with spec)
When rotation is on cooldown use: Counter barrier > Shield Strike > Precision dash > Cruel Smite (valiant brawl) > Shield strike . Can add Gaia Crash with attack speed increase specialization if you want as well.
@Fishy-i2g I will give it a try, thanks for the combo sequence :)
@Qbikk is it now random?
@@demianpelos yes
isn't blood devotion for 1 selected pt member only? not the whole party as you said.. or im missing something..
Its the first upgrade in the skill specialization. if you play with the skill you usually always upgrade it that it goes to the whole party :)
My Greatsword/Dagger main has mostly epic gear with few traits, 60 dex, and 0 heavy attack chance thanks to lack of traits, but constantly pulls aggro off tanks and melts 50K hp enemies in a matter of seconds, but no fully-traited blue alt that I have can do the same. Base dmg + base stats will also have priority just like every other mmo
(min 6) 316 + 50 = 366, not 356 :) Great guide btw
look pinned comment :P its just a typo ^^ the calculation is correct
This video might as well be “Bigger number better, with bigger better number”.
Can you help me understand why lequirus daggers are better than kowazan daggers? To me it just seems like kowazan daggers would be better even though lequirus daggers passive is good
not an dagger expert... kowazan comes with more base damage which is good but who is actually dealing damage with daggers? especially in large scale? does the base damage you are getting from the lequirus daggers also count for your secondary weapon? so your staff/bow/xbow then it would make a lot of sense because for those weapon combinations your main damage is not coming from the daggers. if you could buff your damage with the daggers for your main weapon... thats really nice... additionally it gives more stats which also already gives your more base damage for your main weapon. as mentioned not an expert on daggers but hat would be my quick thoughts :)
@@grobs4678 personally i dont really care too much for pvp and im dagger/gs with more emphasis on daggers, but you're right, the base damage buff on lequirus counts on both weapons so i'll probably just stick with them
Great information!🎉🫡
Damn, so if im using my dagger skills only my dagger weapom base damage will effects 😢
Does Blood Devotion increase the users contribution or only everyone else's contribution?
only everyone else's
@grobs4678 Thank you for taking your time to answer.
I hope you enjoy the rest of your day.
So u should always attack with the weapon that has more base dmg?
Maybe was not super clear explained from my side. If you use a spell from the bow then it uses the base damage from the bow and when you use a skill from the staff then it uses the base damage from the staff. For the calculation it does NOT matter which weapon is in that moment your primary weapon.
Not entirely true. Your secondary weapon will not grant you its small weapon mastery skills - only the large nodes. So in the case of GS, you do lose a few minor bonuses from that.
Depends on class and skill used as well. For instance, on SNS Counter Barrier will not activate if SNS is not on your main hand. Meaning you should be on SNS main if using that skill.
Adentus or Tevent greatsword?
Tevent will be always better I think :)
thanks for the vid, but im still weird which bow to use xD
haha
The damage for a screw I don’t believe that that’s correct because there’s actual numbers listed for in various places but the way you’re saying it it specifically you’re talking a skill credit skill damage credit if trying to use your max space damage what about damage is there additional damage or why do they list damage in certain location?
I really dont understand what you want to say here. sorry
grammar.exe has stopped working.
Off topic but I really like the appearance of your character. Any chance you can share the appearance file?
its predefined from NCSOFT :D you can find it there ^^
Can you elaborate why "bonus damage" is only relevant for crossbow users? Cheers
sure. so "bonus damage" gives you on each hit you are doing your "bonus damage" as additional damage. So for example if you have 15 "bonus damage" and you using your guillotine blade and it hits for 10k then you just add 15 bonus damage. so you would deal 10k + 15 damage. but if you are using a skill that hits 5 times or 10 times then on each hit you are doing the bonus damage comes on top. This is not counting for DOTs. And for the most part only XBow players are utilizing that. Of course there are some skills from certain weapons that can utilize bonus damage but for the most part its only useful for XBow players. A lot of people think that behind "bonus damage" is a factor or whatsoever but its not. 15 bonus damage are just giving 15 additional damage on each hit you are doing.
@@grobs4678 What about Spectrum of Agony passive? If there are many provoked enemies around you it hits very frequently, do we get that bonus damage for every instance?
Im missing the explanation of crit hit chance and heavy attack chance
that would be too much for one video... for crit hit you can watch my video "endurance vs evasion" where I explain how crit is working :)
Awesome video but sad to see i gotta replace my bonus dmg bracelet as a SnS/GS. 😅
its fine. you take that one mostly because of the perception. so its fine ^^
Oh good because I don't see a replacement. 😅 Plus it's the only ine that gives collision resistance, which i've come to really appreciate in pvp.
cd would be better over karnix in all ways tbh more casting = faster and more deeps than the karnix so enjoy thats the difference :D and karnix is just more safe and higher deeps slow deeps too compared to the karnix you gain maybe 2-3 more hits in with the toublek than karnix
Is that why Adentus GS is better than Magna?
yeah... adentus is even better then epic tier 2 greatswords. atleast when it comes to damage... you lose the nice effect on the new T2 GS but its still insanly strong
Now that this video has come out evasion builds will be a bit more viable, the end game gears gives more stats for base damage but that would mean you have to sacrifice hit chance gears.
That is not true. Evasion builds have been viable the entire time and will continue to be viable (at least into t2 where it seems a shift "may" be made to endu) , If you build properly you aren't going to have hit issues. Many classes take 0 pieces of gear with hit on them in end game builds, mastery , passives, perception , food shore up weak points.
If you feel evasion isn't viable now, You dont have good enough gear , enough traits or are spreading yourself WAY too thin trying to cover all 3.
evasion build is viable even know. A lot of youtuber said otherwise which is odd.
they do not pay attention to how ez to get crits compared to hit.Also to get endurance its actually the same or even harder than evasion.
This is because people for good reason love to stack dex ( increase high max damage, crit, atk spd, evasion).
When you check the available gears now, you could see a lot of crits and less hits.
Anyone that alr put some time for research would agree that reaching 2k crit is much easier than hit. same goes for evasion and endurance.
@@assamulia7117 Jesus you're an idiot. I'm happy players like you exist, you're free kills.
My Highest Damage I ever seen was to a DUKE MAGNA Raid boss. I'm a 3180 Combat Power GS/SNS "Tank" I hit the Raid for 25 000 + Heavy attack so its 50 000 Damage ? (with lvl 4 guillotine not maxed out, also No blood devotion. I never ever used it in my build. After this video I should start using it lol )
Maybe I fucked up going dex perception on my liberator… it should be str perception and then dump to dex
um extra base damage is distributed evenly to min and max values.
100-200 attack plus 50 is 25 to min, plus 25 to max = 50
so 100-200 attack plus 50 base damage goes to 125-225
sometimes I ask myself: where do these guys get there information from? obviously that completely bullshit and you notice it if you just test one skill. but I am curios where do you get your information from that you now feel confident on posting that on this video. if you dont trust me take a friend and test out "blood devotion" or use "strategic rush" (SNS push ability) and use it against a dummy. BUT please stop spredding misinformation..
So for a pure healing build Bow/Staff the best choice is to grab the most stats you can so your base dmg is higher then higher your heals?
Karnix would be the right choice? ignoring the range passive. etc.
I would also always go karnix as a heal yes. in PVE just because of the base damage. But in PVP especially because the additional range from toublek is not really beneficial because you Wand has anyways a 14m range. and additionally you are getting strength which is way better as a heal in PVP because you want to reach the 70 strength threshold.
Base damage boost from skills and mastery only adds on MAX damage not Base damage (lowest roll possible) tested it now. Unless it's a bug, your damage increase % calculation is not accurate.
thats not true ^^ every skill with base damage works like that ....except its mentioned like for example high focus with the upgrade where you only get additional "max damage". I tested all the stuff ^^
@@grobs4678 Tested it on my end as well, even Mastery only add max damage not the base, Tested on staff. Must be bug on my end?
@@Nick11156 I guess^^ base damage is min and max damage otherwise its mentioned
@@Nick11156 you are right for masteries. for masteries I didnt tested it. They seem to give only max damage. which is of course still really good but for sure not as good as I thought. but for skills I tested it for different stuff and it always gives you min and max damage. you can easy check this with strategic rush. just use it against a dummy and you see your min and max damage going up. but thanks for letting me know for the masteries :)
Can you show your build pls kind sir.😢
base damage
example if you have 10 damage on 1 piece, its like 10% more damage
Bro i was following your sentinel guide, i did and i like it but i saw many peoples using different skills and skill specs mostly using gs skills and pssives can you make a new sentinel build please
my build is still up to date. of course there are different builds out there and some of them might be also good BUT please be careful on who you trust. There is so much TRASH content out on youtube. 95% of the guides for PVE are trash IF you like to min/max stuff. But if you have different build that looks fun for you. Go ahead and try it and even if might be worse in DPS then mine maybe its more fun for you. Because in the end thats just what its all about :) *I will always all of my builds
@@grobs4678 the problem is they have burst damage and much faster then us. I wasnt talk about the other youtubers but mostly i saw they using gs skill with charge and focusing on burst damage our sentinel build much like dot and not burst. love you ty for comment and your time.
I knew that you where talking about that :D BUT burst is bad in PVE ^^ everyone plays with the chargeable skills but thats just burst and burst you only need in PVP but in PVE you only care about DPS. you only have big damage number but lower DPS (If you play with a lot of attackspeed). but if you want to have big damage numbers then go ahead and take the chargeable skills. just try out for urself :) if its works better for you then you have your answer ^^
@@mahmutcanbagci9480 sentinel needs alot of skill adjustments based on the situation you are facing,you simply can't have 1 build for everything, there is no need for him to make a new video,just read what your skills do watch what others are doing and try to understand your class...
@@CloudMV dude i know what i am saying, i see my friends also playing sentinel build and with charge skills and in every peace or guild boss they getting items and guess who cant. We are almost same cp the only diff is im using alot skill and they using charge skills for burst and high dmg. Thats what i am saying 🤔
Tldr?
So I didn’t hear you explain Bonus Damage
explained it already in an other comment: so "bonus damage" gives you on each hit you are doing your "bonus damage" as additional damage. So for example if you have 15 "bonus damage" and you using your guillotine blade and it hits for 10k then you just add 15 bonus damage. so you would deal 10k + 15 damage. but if you are using a skill that hits 5 times or 10 times then on each hit you are doing the bonus damage comes on top. This is not counting for DOTs. And for the most part only XBow players are utilizing that. Of course there are some skills from certain weapons that can utilize bonus damage but for the most part its only useful for XBow players. A lot of people think that behind "bonus damage" is a factor or whatsoever but its not. 15 bonus damage are just giving 15 additional damage on each hit you are doing.
@@grobs4678 i disagree when it comes to bonus damage being only used by crossbowers; why wouldn't i want extra damage for every single hit i do? as far as i know it's not specific for skill damage, right?
Push that your use of the term broken is just a cloak wheel live or slang word meaning powerful, not broken powerful broken brain says an exploiter of bug. That’s what the word means. Literally means that it’s not working as intended. There’s something wrong broke it. Your pencil is broken means that you stamped it in half or you broke the lead brokenthumb down.
what? :D I am confused xD but in the gaming scene the term "broken" is used for "overpowered" "too strong" and so on. you can even just ask chat gpt for synonyms of the word in the gaming scene :D
Its doesnt matter as long as you can kill on pvp and not to kill or maybe hard to kill is enough
Why is your voice so familiar? Have you had a different Channel before?
no :D
so no food or stell
Thx
Well.. Just lerned that 316 + 50 = 356 xD
6:20
look pinned comment ;)
Yeah but skill dmg boost works like hit chance/accuracy and how much it icnrease dmg on skill nobody knows
no. skill damage boost does not work like hit. hit and crit work depending on the enemy's endurance and evasion. but skill damage boost works as mentioned in the video. its just a multiplier independent of the enemy's stats.
@grobs4678 Jezus the description in game is terrible then I was sure it work like crit
5:53 wrong
Read pinned comment
Karnix only good on paper . The diffrence is too small to matter from what ive seen . Still pref karnix for more hp .
Bonusxdamage only addz to the end of the damage after everything else bruh. Its useless minus xbow or daggers.
315+50 is not 356 😅
Gamer math lol
haha :D but the calculation is still correct. the average damage (295) I used is correct :P
@@grobs4678 lolol
@@grobs4678 i was gonna say, more like Blizzard math 😂
Thy nerf active and passive healer related skills but buffing every DPS weapons at next patch global, there is zero logic!!!
so, i still dont know if i should stay with toublek or get karnix XD
I am not an expert on that field BUT as a bow/staff I would go for Karnix just because you CANT utilize the additional range anyways because you staff is capped at 17.6m range. going for a bow with 19.2m range is completely useless I feel :S as bow/dagger it can be really good because you dont need to align the weapon ranges. But yeah that would be my take on it.
@ thanks for the input. I have to give both a try and see what works better. Im bow dagger
u should have both at this stage lol it cost like 500lucent nowdays to trait up purple weap
@@grobs4678 What's the max possible range? I read somewhere that it's capped at 30 meters but I couldn't find the items to reach even 26 meters, best I can do is 33.2% range increase
I need it purely to tag mobs from the distance during farming, then I'd swap to my actual set
@@grobs4678 even with bow/dagger you have to walk forward to reach shadow strike's maximum range in order to use ankle strike/thunderclouds without losing your rapid fire passive on your bow. toublek just isn't it really, in any scenario. the cd reduction is nice but it's barely anything in the overall scheme of things.
Kannst du es nicht auf deutsch machen bitte !?
sorry :/
Tl:dr base dmg is crap and vastly inferior to heavy atk chance, thx for proving that 😁
heavy attack chance is of course anyways broken :D but it a lot base damage makes your heavy attack chance even better...
@@grobs4678I was being an ass for no reason, ur right ofc it’s not to be neglected 😎
@@TheLimitTester 😘
The actual secret of: "The Secret to High Damage" is to have all damage related agents balanced: crit, heavy, hit, base.
Nop
Nope, you‘re wrong😂
@@mr.vanwinters Rule number 1 in PvP MMO's , let the people who are wrong continue to believe they're right. Just makes it easier on everyone else lol.
@@driklolyou mean like this dude today. He was afk at night in an open world dungeon but in his opinion it was my fault to kill him😂
@@mr.vanwinters If the roles were reversed, he'd be telling his pals how bad he owned you.
Bow is broken now now we understand the car expo is broken. In fact any weapon that has a high base damage or higher base damage is more broken. If that’s a word more broker broker broker than the other two boat broker, the car is broker than the two small because both of them are higher base damage than most other votes so they are both broker, but one is broker than the other.
Its not broken. This type of wording is what drives devs to nerf the fun out of every aspect of the game. Leaving a boring mess of skills and weapons that all feel the same.
Give your head a shake and just enjoy the game.
When I see grobs I like 🎉
Uh theres nothing broken about it. Its how it's always worked in this game. Click bait.
broken? it works like intended, and it works like in every other game 😂
Im sure that no one underestimate base damage, but u did not have much ways to increase that stat so i just close this video
AND DAGGER PLAYERS!!!!
all these tanks need to be nerfed a little imo
Content creators and their clickbait nonsense. Talking bout some "base dmg is broken. Chill out
1000*20>800*20 looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
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@@grobs4678 useless comparison
@@alexanderikonovich6200 ok :D
First!
you can't read I guess, that devotion perk doesn't increase any base damage, it increase damage inflicted TO your party member by 50 flat... ahahah bro you are ...
It’s a translation error. It does what he said in the video
its a translation mistake. I tested it of course and its a just base damage increase :) ....you are so.... xD
STOP with click bait thumbnails like "This is broken". This is a sure fire way to make sure that devs start nerfing the fun out of the game.
TH-camrs and streamers need to learn when to STFU about things and keep it to themselves.