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9:43 I guess it depends on what you mean by "fumbles the dodge rolls" if you level ADP you'll have a great time if you don't you'll have a pretty hellish time. ADP also makes it so you heal faster and life gems can be used while moving estus can't, they're purchasable from a merchant, but I will say relying on a consumable (even infinitely purchasable ones) for better movement while healing still feels bad.

Worst by far

All souls games are special...even Dark souls 2 the formula and effort FromSoft puts into making these games are phenomenal.

I used Malenia 1st phase as practice to hone my skills to the point of were I could match her blow for blow without healing or buffing myself that 2nd phase tho had me terrified she is fully regenerated , has even lesser openings to punish then before & she's way more aggressive.

Kill 1.6 Billion People to save a few 100k Eren: STONKS

really enjoyed the video. I like how you put in "bumps" that are like old adult swim. I felt the same about the DLC and adapting with all the new toys was a ton of fun.

This is incredibly well made! Subbed!

the only problem so far that i have with the dlc is the map, its too difficult walk in the shadow of the erdtree withot going to places im not suppose to be or i lost a ton of npc bc i skip a underground passage to another area, and they are not so easy to spot. i think that the base game its more intuitive

That ending went a little bit too hard

Now that I think about it, the weapons we get from SoTE are stronger than usual, we've been given a ton of smithing stones so I guess the game expected us to respec, which we didn't then made our main weapon from the base game weaker than it should be. I agree with the fragments tho, its almost impossible to find every fragment just by casually exploring

This is as good as the souls born edit

This game is Fromsoft's first foray into making bosses that are undenibly too busy, which is why AI summons that don't increase the boss health, and also have a giant health pool themselves, are present. They made a game meant to be more flashy than enjoyable, and balanced around that, and that's the main issue with Radahn, Metyr, and a couple other bosses. The Centipede Shawty is a cakewalk solo, Messmer feels fair, so does Rellana. But Radahn is a step too far in difficulty. And any discussion around ER's difficulty is ruined because new players think this is just how the Souls series is and always have been, which isn't true. And the "just use the Mimic" argument sucks too. Because in Dark Souls 3, Gael is an incredibly tough boss, but I never felt like he was impossible. I never felt like I had to use a summon. Visually busy bosses who have 8 attack combos with an AOE like Radahn or Maliketh make me feel like the game is having fun while I wait to play. And it's what holds back Elden Ring for me. Dark Souls 3 and Bloodborne were the peak of the formula to me, with Sekiro up there, being an amazing and successful gameplay experiment. Most of Elden Ring is great, but the last few bosses and the "harder" DLC bosses just suck to me. I hope they don't continue making insane bosses like in this game. Elden Ring was a step too far in the wrong direction

I am on my second walktrough with max scadutree n stuff. I remember getting absolutely destroyed on my first playthrough. On this one tho I beat divine beast, Rellana, messmer, ghostdragon, radahn etc everything on first try even if just barely with messmer (mf got me more than close to oneshot in the end). I also by far wouldn't call myself a pro player but also didn't use any cheese methods or stuff to get a easy win. Only thing I did inbetween the first and second playthrough was getting probably 400 times summoned to help others with the dlc bosses. In the end it's fr just how much time you put into getting used to their movesets and stuff. But I would strongly disagree that the dlc would be too difficult.

I’m actually really sad about the Radahn nerf. He feels so slow now, all because a bunch of people thought having to dodge left was too complex and unfair of a boss mechanic.

Shadow of the Erdtree gives you all the tools you need to beat Promised Consort Radahn. They're called Thrusting Shields, and everyone but me is sleeping on them. I feel like "cheesing" shouldn't be limited to purely exploits like flinging Dung Piles over Capra Demon's fog gate. I think if you beat an enemy in a way that makes them extremely easily, it's still fair to call it "cheesing" them, but there's nothing wrong with that. I'll defend to the death that I accidentally cheesed the Godskin Duo my first time by dual-wielding blood loss daggers and summoning my Mimic Tear to do the same. That was absolutely cheese. They couldn't do shit, and Bernahl was basically just there to give then more health and a sporting chance because he suee as crap wasn't meaningfully contributing to our damage output. But it's also hilarious and a story I'll tell for the rest of my time playing FromSoft games (even though I just did it even more easily with my current character and his Mimic Tear dual-wielding both the OG and the new St. Trina swords. Not as funny as putting them in a blender though).

Mongrel Intruder lives rent free inside my head.

Shadow tree blessings past 14 is practically pointless and literally just wasting your time collecting

Good points all around... but I need to say this. I think even VaatiVidya wishes his Elden Ring "movies" had the quality your little trailer at the end have. I honestly think From Software themselves haven't put out a trailer of THIS quality.

that chaos edit at the end was soo perfect 🔥

2:58 he's from epilepsy: controllers die twice.

I woupd understand if your point was to like use a spesific pine resin on a boss or smth like that, but you are litturaly saying: "Oh, what is that sword you have? Are you telling it is your favorite weapon in the entire game? Tough luck, gotta go and respeck into a strength build for this boss...". Thats just stupid and if it is really the case than it is games balancing. I understand that some builds will have an easier time than the others, but, imo, all bosses should have a relatively simular difficulty with all builds, unless you go out of your way to go find smth that will make tham easier

this bump made me sub

Really I’m just here for the fun. This is my third favorite DLC right behind Ringed City and Old Hunters. Despite the frustration I had a good time and would honesty consider Shadow of the Erdtree a perfect DLC

Wowzers!

I'm so tired of the " difficulty " argument. Games should be fun for everyone. A simple solution is accessibility features/difficulty slider and if you dont want them the beauty is you dont have to turn them on but they are there for others. If I can encourage a game to have the brutal difficulty that others want I expect the same. I should be able to breeze through the game with minimal effort. Just because hard is fun for you does not make it fun for others. Its a ridiculous argument with a simple solution that would make both sides happy.

idk man beating the bosses without summons is like a whole different boss. for example consort radahn with a summon or a friend gives you way more chances to use spells or just land a big attack but when it's one on one you'd be lucky to land a catch flame and not get 1/3 of your hp deleted. depending on your build you might not even need to learn a single opening a boss has, and that's a shame because you feel less accomplished.

It's not too hard It's too BS In older fromsoftware games, beating the level was a challenge itself But now the levels are easy AF and you really need to try to die So what did they do to compensate? They increased the boss difficulty So the game is literally one of the worst games in history in terms of the difficulty balancing. You're playing an easy game 90% of the time then it becomes one of the hardest single player rpg games ever (if you're not using spirit ashes, op builds & stuff )

Wouldn’t say this surpasses everything this year at all. Large part of the map was empty, new weapons as a whole were disappointing, rewards were pretty bad with cookbooks and level 3 smithing stones everywhere and having a disappointing ending while almost no bosses got cutscenes or much lore bar a couple of exceptions. Boss fight quality was quite good for the most part, Radahnn was annoying due to the cross slash, Gaius was plain stupid at launch and kind of boring, and Metyr is just plain garbage to this day, other than them however, main boss quality was pretty great. Messmer is my favourite boss of all time and Bayle is the best dragon fight 5hey have ever done while divine beast, Rellana, Romina and Midra were all fantastic as well. Sunflower gets old real fast and putrecent knight is ok. Legacy dungeons were disappointing to me however. Shadowkeep is my second favourite legacy dungeon behind stormveil and I can easily see it being first after some time, so they knocked it out of the park with that one. However, belurat, while decent, was nothing special, madras manse was cool but can barely be considered a legacy dungeon due to being extremely short and Enir ilim is just trash. Quite short with annoying enemies and doesn’t branch off anywhere like shadowkeep. However I love the big fight with npcs that changes based on how much of the quests you did. Leveling system also became a chore in later parts of the game and is putting me off doing a non new game plus playthrough again as it’s such a pain to get them. I complained a lot but I believe it’s still an 8.5 out of 10. Quite a few glaring issues and some puzzling design decisions, but the highs are some of the highest highs in gaming. I do find it funny though how souls fans jumped on it for being too difficult despite dog piling on that one reporter from eurogamer where most of the complaints came from the final boss, which was far more bs and difficult in the early copies of the game they played lol. Typical souls fans

Honestly my biggest gripe with the game is the lack of more unique enemies. Don’t get me wrong, I love the experience, I just wish some of the NPCs weren’t reskins of ones from the vanilla game

I don't think this beats the old hunters. Its ok

If the game doesn't play fair, neither do I

I was also in the boat of wanting to fight a legendary warrior I'm his prime. I was fortunate enough to not be spoiled on who it was. But after constantly getting my teeth kicked in I couldn't help but laugh and just say "I ASKED for this!"

The background music around 10:00 reminds me of pseudoregalia

You don't need to max out your fragments. After lvl 10 (I think) the incremental upgrades are minimal.

Going in without a build and just dawging it? Ya, it’s pretty hard. If you got a decent build nah.

Going in without a build and just dawging it? Ya, it’s pretty hard. If you got a decent build nah.

God is a circumcision hoax

I overall enjoyed this dlc but definitely felt that fromsoft where sorta making things hard too be hard and instead of triumph after a boss fight I just felt relief it was over and was not looking forward too having too go back through it on my pc, I heard they buffed and nerfed certain things tho so maybe it’s won’t be so bad

Difficult no? You guys clearly dont know how to play the game still. Miyazaki said if you still dont know after 2 years how to play the game just dont play it. The dlc shows us to enemies they cant be killed by raw power. You need skill you need the resources for that you need to use your brain

If you agree or disagree, give your thoughts on the difficulty down below, but please be respectful to each other’s opinions

The shadow tree fragments aren’t too hard to require. You don’t really need all of them to beat the dlc

It wasn't hard. This was the easiest Souls Game only because it lets you do so much shit. There are bosses in this game that can be cheesed just by standing on a platform and pelting it with rock sling or poisoning it with arrows until it dies. There's one boss where I just hid through a door and used Maiden's Mist on it through the wall. Lol. Its only hard if you keep trying harder. You have to try smarter. Consort Rahdan was a cake walk. Brass Shield + Lordsworn Sword + Deflecting Tear. He died easy.

Nothing is too ”hard”. The game is still beatable at rl1 wl0 sb0 (have a pre nerf radahn kill with this as proof) We as a community are getting alot better at souls bosses and mechanics so its just natural they have to step the difficulty up a notch to challenge us. The only issue with the difficulty imo is that some specific abilities like the metyr lazer, while having counterplay, makes the boss alot worse for hitless as it forces the player to do boring strats

If there is anything to take away from this discussion: Anyone who uses eddy in Tekken 8 is a loser

Bro fuck eddy especially in tekken 8

The DLC isn't even that difficult. I beat most bosses besides Radahn and Bayle in less than 8 attempts without summons

Sounds like skill issue to me

Its not

While I fundamentally disagree with the Chaos Ending, I cannot disagree with how good this video is 🔥

nah buddy the dlc sucked because they took the worst parts in the base game and amplified them. I can deal with the bosses being over-aggressive, but waiting for a combo of 10 seconds to end only to deal a little bit of damage and then back to waiting 10 seconds until the boss' combo is done is boring and annoying. The bossfights should be back n forth, but no. They are 99% dodging and 1% recognizing rare mid-combo windows to counter-attack. Mohg and Maliketh, in my opinion, while they looked cool, they didn't make for a good bossfight. especially Maliketh. You could not touch the guy most of the time either because he wasn't done combo-ing you, or because he decided to dodge all your attacks for a while, or you simply have a low reaching weapon and due to his default standing position, your attacks' hitboxes would miss him. They took that from the base game and made bosses that would do that 3 times more, and be super aggressive. Then there's the level design, which, in some dungeons, sure, it was good, but most of the open world and some legacy dungeon felt like a literal chore to navigate and go through. I play a game to have fun, not to feel like I'm doing everyday pain-in-the-butt chores. And the fact that you HAD to check every corner for (scadu)shadow tree fragments if you wanted to have some sort of progression, while the idea was good, the implementation ultimately sucked precisely because the level design was so bad. The Black Knights and the hornsent knight guys could not get hitstunned by 90% of the weapons, no matter how many times you hit them, and that wouldn't be a problem if they were slow, but they were attacking fast enough for you to be unable to do any considerable damage in the time windows you were offered. I change my build based on the situation regularly, and that still didn't make the enemy and boss encounters any fun. They were annoying. And yes, I am aware that you can make an unkillable build using high DPS and a good buff rotation and making use of the ironjar aromatic, but that is not fun either. It's not engaging at all. Soulsborne games (except DS2) used to be Hard for the challenge and the difficulty would somehow make it more fun. This is just hard for the sake of being hard. I didn't like most of the big bossfights in the dlc. Messmer, Divine Beast, Radahn, Hog Rider Gaius, all pretty bad and unfun. I hope the next game is better. I loved all the soulsborne games (except DS2), even Sekiro... But this has disappointed me greatly. The base game was also kinda bad at times, but was still somewhat fun. The DLC wasn't fun. The new weapons are a nice addition to the pvp tho. They just need a bit of rebalancing. The main reason I'm still playing is the PVP, and the addition of the vertical jump.