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A COMPLETE Offlane Guide for Beginners and Advanced Dota 2 Players - Early Game
Immortal Dota 2 coach breaks down a complete Offlane guide on how to dominate the early game phase as an Offlaner using a specially created Offlane cheat sheet with a 5-point grading scale.
Get CRACKED on Offlane today!
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00:00 - Introduction
00:58 - Won Lane Subsection
6:54 - Dota2ProTracker
7:12 - Lost Lane Subsection
10:43 - Conclusion
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  • @Segundo_Grande
    @Segundo_Grande วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ever tried this in <1k mmr matches? Yeah, from time to time you get team mates, lane mates which are cooperative and communicative, but most of the time, like, 70% of the time, you get self entitled Mr. Know it alls, and you end up fighting with them, as well as with the enemy....

  • @Tharindu87
    @Tharindu87 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is absolutely golden feedback. It helped me re-evaluate my hero pool and rethink a lot of how I play on the daily. Thanks for uploading this!

  • @M.e.h..
    @M.e.h.. วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wow this should really be the emphasis on how to win lanes, i've watched hundreds of vids on how to get better but no one has mentioned this point, or atleast not as directly as you did to make us understand how they win trades. I started demolishing my lanes as a pos 1 but now i need to learn how to win the damn game. I go like 6 and 0 in the first 10 ish minutes and somehow my farm is still same or lower than the enemy carry with like 4 deaths and we end up losing late game 40 mins plus

  • @kid_kulafu_1727
    @kid_kulafu_1727 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can you do this with OD against VS? How can you recover from that?

  • @kid_kulafu_1727
    @kid_kulafu_1727 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dayum!!! I used to do this until i het ganked and hide under trees but my hero attacks the enemy so i change to never. I didnt know the option to hold S. Wtf!

  • @kid_kulafu_1727
    @kid_kulafu_1727 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dont do this against SF. Youll be eating 2 raze. 😢

    • @BalloonDota
      @BalloonDota 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      yes, as mentioned in the description, very specific few matchups will not allow you to trade like this. you can refer to my other midlane laning videos to learn about those ya.

  • @HighlightsfrommySteamlibrary
    @HighlightsfrommySteamlibrary 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Awesome content!

  • @PrawirodirjoUtomo
    @PrawirodirjoUtomo 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Amazing Content Dude.. I didn't play Dota for a long time.. Recently back to playing Dota, and what i get is the game became more complex then when it was a few years ago.. your video are very helpful for me as a lesson to Adapt on..

  • @ZIKAluc
    @ZIKAluc 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I am the new Collapse

  • @RPMT
    @RPMT 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is good.

  • @muerantodos123
    @muerantodos123 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thinks too sacrificially.

  • @bobduato9071
    @bobduato9071 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This feels like it's finally explaining to me the basic concepts that are beginner friendly without being "click on creeps to get gold! Click your keyboard to do spells!" Incredible video and love your offlane content

  • @r3v4nwolf
    @r3v4nwolf 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice vid, I feel like i do most of these in each game but what I really like was the method of grading you used. Gives you a peak to aim for.

  • @TheGreatChancellor
    @TheGreatChancellor 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    hey i hit a fleeing hero with a spell and tried to right click follow and attack and my hero started attacking neutrals next to me instead. can you explain what i did wrong?

    • @BalloonDota
      @BalloonDota 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You must likely attacked the ground which causes your hero to target the closest unit to you instead.

  • @djpnda-ed1dh
    @djpnda-ed1dh 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video. I’m 8k offlaner but I’ve been hardstuck so long. I haven’t gained more than 100 mmr in 6 months lol. These videos definitely helping me understand the game better. I am eager to climb

  • @erencaglyor9851
    @erencaglyor9851 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video

  • @d-mon666
    @d-mon666 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    focus on 7:20, when losing lane. thats a good tips. actually i'm applying few he mention above. farming backward. i will keep stacking every mins and using 2 clarity + SMOKE to flash farm later. also remind for fellow, when u losing lane, ur skill build may diff, dont stubborn and try skip SS on lvl 6 tidehunter if u losing lane, just take 2 or 3 for u to recover. but im still fail to identify threat which hero can kill me, also usage of scan. thank for reminder

  • @amirbahador.developer
    @amirbahador.developer 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ty❤

  • @gideonsaputra3677
    @gideonsaputra3677 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you, Sensei !!!

  • @karimsedky3168
    @karimsedky3168 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Excellent video! Curious to know your opinion on top offlane picks for this patch! Well done

    • @BalloonDota
      @BalloonDota 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi bro, personally I would go for Legion Commander, Axe and Dawnbreaker as the few personal favourites. Slardar also

  • @itwsw
    @itwsw 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    hey' pilon bousse imper to fes do ggt

  • @ahmadfahmi7147
    @ahmadfahmi7147 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    this type of notes are the ones prolly running free in ceb's brain. not on the sheets that chalice saw ceb holding bunch of papers during the ti8 finals jkjk

  • @doktorernst5864
    @doktorernst5864 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Completely wrong. The most efficient play for supports is 1. Stay back behind your core as far as possible 2. Conserve your attacks. Use them exclusively to compete with your teammate for cs (important) 3. Do not get hit and DO NOT press a spell until at least minute 4. Save your mana and hp for next game (you can sell your tangos back as well) 4. When your tier 1 eventually dies, get straight to jungle farming until you net about 10k gold. Never show in lane or get close to your teammates. They will leech your xpm. 4. During this process, periodically flame your team for being useless. This step is absolutely crucial, keep reminding yourself. 5. Although you never endanger yourself, somehow accrue the highest death count in the entire match (havent figured this one out yet, maybe you can give me some advice) This is what i gathered from closely watching my pos4 witch doctor today. He seemed to know what he was doing and was very sure of himself.

  • @whitecrow20XX
    @whitecrow20XX 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dota is becoming a college major, I see.

  • @vladimirsladek5313
    @vladimirsladek5313 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My man i am happy someone finally creates mid guides but dude, what value is guide of od vs ember :dd thats like no point

  • @ultiz6935
    @ultiz6935 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    more offlane videos pls

  • @dotaprosnoobs3718
    @dotaprosnoobs3718 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wonderful 👍👍👍👍

  • @__bozo__
    @__bozo__ 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Axe/Tide have passive/spell to farm camps. But how to recover for example as Night Stalker who doesn’t have spell/passive to farm? Shard can solve this but it delays timing significantly for other items.

    • @BalloonDota
      @BalloonDota 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If you do not have a strong support to lane with, I would not recommend cores that have difficulties recovering like Nightstalker and Marci because they would mostly require that they win lane or at least not get shut down completely. In cases where that happens, you would need to recover regardless.

  • @6xWaNteDx9
    @6xWaNteDx9 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Another great video, really glad we're getting informative videos consistently Thanks again for the valuable advice and cheatsheet, it's very informative compared to other videos that I've been watching, keep it up!

  • @KingofDew
    @KingofDew 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is there a support cheat sheet?

    • @BalloonDota
      @BalloonDota 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Currently not but I will look into it in future as these documents take me a lot of time to create.

  • @Colopty
    @Colopty 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love how much detail you put into this.

  • @ColdDrill
    @ColdDrill 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    May I know if you happen to have a similar sheet for POS 4 support, I'm a divine support player and im looking to hit immortal but stuck

    • @BalloonDota
      @BalloonDota 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi, currently I do not but I will look into it in future.

  • @fredcheenee2523
    @fredcheenee2523 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you for all the hardwork that you do.

  • @peterpaul2907
    @peterpaul2907 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    When all lanes are lost, and the enemy is invading our jungle (fast pacing game from enemy)...do you farm a "fast pacing item" like BLINK too, or a "slow pacing item" like BKB? Do you adjust to enemies pacing or do you take the save route with BKB? This BKB-route would need much more time.

    • @knkaitlog
      @knkaitlog 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      if enemy is fast paced and deathballing try to split map or cut oncoming waves make them defend their towers let 2-3 heroes defend highground

    • @BalloonDota
      @BalloonDota 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      A fast paced game is both decided by your teammates and enemies equally. Teammates or enemies play fast = game becomes fast so you would need to factor both sides in.

    • @d-mon666
      @d-mon666 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@knkaitlog so true

  • @kenji6475
    @kenji6475 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i thought this was saberlight talking

  • @flawed1130
    @flawed1130 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks a lot for this now I have a better idea on what to do as an offlaner 👍

  • @PauIo001
    @PauIo001 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That's it, I love you man. You did it for safelane, now you did it with this. Im in love. That's all I have to say

  • @Fate025
    @Fate025 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Followed some of the pointers this guide and I immediately won a comeback game in ranked. Team was behind in net worth for a whole 50 minutes, and we came back and won in a 60+ min game :D Points that were super useful for me to win that game was to minimise the time killing wave creeps, using spells to speed up killing of waves, then immediately going to jungle to farm to optimise farming efficiency. Also the pointers on identifying open lanes to push, identifying threats, monitoring the mini map and not TPing to fights which I cannot win. Using scan to identify when enemy team is getting ready to defend behind their tower. All these pointers resulted in me successfully directing me and my team to avoid losing fights, and going for fights which we had a fighting chance, we won those fights and started to stage a comeback.

  • @vitguitar4772
    @vitguitar4772 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's so so helpful bro. Keep up the good work <3

  • @bondlukman
    @bondlukman 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    wow good thumbnail, good content as always !👍👍

  • @holohulolo
    @holohulolo 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What I find difficult to understand is. When to join a fight and when not to. Specifically fights you know are pointless and especially fights you know are unwinnable. I mean yes around that rank people like to take random fights, as long as they see enemy, they take the fight. And a lot of times I find it obvious we shouldnt take it. I mean the kind we can get wiped without really having a trade that's worth anything, basically just us feeding more if we take the fight. You might think my judgement is wrong but I know I'm not because the teamate would start blaming the one not in the fight who is alive and well when they lose the fight. And not just that, they ask why he didnt come or something along those line Without thinking whether it was even possible for that ally to come and join the fight at all. So basically theres always a few allies that takes a fight thinking our whole team is there, but they dont bother checking, because in their mind they just want to fight, they havent checked the map in 30 seconds and notice the carry is farming far away and doesnt seem to join us. So what happens then? Say it's likely we get wiped and not get more kill if I join Should I just abandon them and let them feed, so I dotn feed them more or what? Because this happens a lot in fight. They behave so randomly, and the only way to help is to just follow them if there 2 or 3 of them roaming in areas they might bump into enemies. I feel like this is, a lot of time wasted for me as a support tagging along some core farming. Because these core jusy expect you to be ready anytime they engage. They never checked the team positions before they start roaming around aimlessly. That's another thing they're not going for any objective or really for farming they dont know what better to do either. They hope to bump into 1 wandering enemy and catch them and maybe more. And I often find myself stuck in such situations where I just have to tag along 24/7. There are times where were roaming ( again, not full team, usually no carry) and there are literally 2 of our lanes being shoved in and the enemy creep is just in front of our tower. But they dont see it, and they keep roaming aimlessly. The right thing is obviously to clear those waves so we dont get caught in a fight while enemy creeps are hitting our tower. If I tp, and even inform them, theyd still roam aimlessly, and since they dont check map or team position, they assume I'm still there and go about like they have gank potential. Then they suddenly bump into enemy just shortly after to, clash and they get wiped and just feed for nothing. I dont know if the right decision is for me to def the tower since no one is doing it, or tag along and babysit them, because at least if I'm with them even if its outnumbered fight the outcome might be better. Also theres that risk of them dying and finding out you're not there and you become that scapegoat and reason for them to grief. Even though they're the one making the wrong move and decision.

  • @sepehrsamadi8722
    @sepehrsamadi8722 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    really high quality content man i made it to immortal using ur carry sheet tnx

  • @joseluis7965
    @joseluis7965 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    oh my god, thanks Sensei

  • @pbichsan4489
    @pbichsan4489 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    wow very detailed thankyou2

  • @Shefetoful
    @Shefetoful 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    hey balloon, can you do these cropped in to what's relevant? like half the screen space is wasted on word and the text therefore is quite small

  • @mucahit-inel
    @mucahit-inel 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You’re talking a science. This is not bait or scam. Thank you for real information

  • @yamasan83
    @yamasan83 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    what about in a winning lane, you're trying to mantaing pressure and you buy wards, but enemy keep showing/smoking and kill you and you team don't react (dont push other lane either). What can i do? Do i have to leave that space to enemy carry and let him recover?

    • @Fate025
      @Fate025 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If all 5, or 4 enemy heroes are missing then its kinda obvious they are smoke ganking you or your teammates right?

    • @nicholasc.a
      @nicholasc.a 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That goes to threat identification part 😊

    • @knkaitlog
      @knkaitlog 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      thats creating space, lessen pressur ein other lanes and hopefully your team takes advantage of 5 heroes getting on top of you

    • @yamasan83
      @yamasan83 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Fate025 right, but that's not my point in the question. My point is do i have to retreat from that zone or keep going back and forward just to keep pressure? I'm kinda in the feeling that enemy carry in this way recover from a bad lane.

    • @yamasan83
      @yamasan83 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@knkaitlog ok, you tell me if they still farming it's ok. But what about pressure tower?

  • @haveyouseenthisman1676
    @haveyouseenthisman1676 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you so much, went from 4.4k to 3.5k, hopefully this helps.

    • @yamasan83
      @yamasan83 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      i lost a ton of mmr too recently. Feels bad. I'm taking a long break from ranked game..

    • @quediezmo680
      @quediezmo680 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I gain atleast another 500mmr after watching some of his videos. What I did was put the tip in a sticky note on my pc. Then remind myself of it every picking phase.

    • @valour549
      @valour549 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      So you lost 900 MMR after watching his videos?

    • @quediezmo680
      @quediezmo680 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@valour549 he meant that he lost tons of mmr before this vid and he is hoping to get some of it back if he improves.

    • @asd-dr9cf
      @asd-dr9cf 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@valour549average TH-cam commenter IQ

  • @Holiday14448
    @Holiday14448 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yeeeessssss