Dude I never knew there is a 3 sec cd for aggroing creeps. I have always thought I am bad at aggroing creeps and didn't understand why sometimes they don't get aggro. Thank you so much.
@@amitsrivastava0191 exactly!! I thought of the same thing. Like bruh how am I learning about such a vital information after fucking 10 years of dota and countless videos of tips and tricks that too in ancient-divine bracket
added info regarding portraits: not agro related, but in case you dont know, you can target allie portraits to cast friendly spells. Can be relevant as eg. Oracle, dazzle using glimmer cape, forcestaff etc. when a cluster is making targeting difficult.
I’m only 6500 mmr but this is one of those things that got me out of legend rank. There is 2 really good ways and both should be used for maximum harassment without griefing the lane equilibrium. 1 if you press to attack an enemy from fog of war(in trees) it doesn’t matter how close you are to them you will not aggro them 2.play to the right or left of the lane instead of the back of it and start learning the exact range of the creeps aggro range
Also side note you can find out if your enemy has vision using the first trick (if the creeps get aggro to you when you are supposed to be in fog of war it means you aren’t in fog of war and the enemy has vision in the area :)
I remember having trouble with portrait agro method, at first I thought that I was doing something wrong then I tested it in lobby. Turned out that problem was with fast attack setting (attack upon pressing A without using mouse clicking), when it was turned on creeps just wouldn't agro from portraits. Valve already fixed it, but its too late now for me since I'm used to manually moving camera around the map for it, xD
Additional tip: You can abuse the aggro cooldown when using ranged heroes to harass your enemies. Simply attack enemies outside creep aggro then let your character follow the enemy and land the 1 or 2 auto attacks before de-aggroing your enemies. It will keep the lane stable while you're harassing the enemy and to keep yourself from taking creep damage. Also, some auto-cast spells don't trigger creep aggro when you manually target enemies such as Drow Q, Viper Q, OD Q, etc. BTW, great content man. Keep it up!
This is the first thing i tried when i learned about the update where you can click enemy icon to see their latest position and item, and i never use the old way (moving camera to other lane to aggro) ever since. A very broken QoL update indeed.
Balloon and his efficiency tips once again poggers This is something I wouldn't see from other videos, and also something I will definitely use in a lot of my games
Saw your post on reddit, I thought I already knew most of the stuff here but It's always a welcome surprise to learn something you didn't know about! The amount of times I moved my camera to other lanes to click on heroes to aggro creeps must be more than a hundred times, i even set up saved camera hotkeys xD Your channel is a treasure trove for game mechanics, cheers! (also, what app are you using to write on the screen? thanks!)
Question: When you agro creeps, do creeps first finish ongoing attack animation or they stop the attack (like when you issue a stop command on hero) and start chasing you as soon as you draw their agro?
fck. didnt realize that you can attack the hero portrait hahaha. big thanks to this video. whenever i play axe and want to clear the wave fast, i dont want to use berserker call to aggro the creeps because of mana problems(before geting shroud). I usually click on the other side of the map with an enemy hero and attack him so the creeps will aggro me. Now i know i can just attack the portrait haha. Its easier and less work to do
how you hero starts to get back before you clicked a mouse? I watching around 7:15 at 0.25 speed and cant determine... Was using global agro for years tho
But sometimes agro doesn't work like, I A an enemy hero but the creeps doesn't follow me sometimes even tho I am at its range and it's on my attack range
@@ronvincentdaano7062 hey bro, that's because you probably accidentally issued an attack command or right clicked on an enemy hero while being outside of 500 aggro range, putting it on a 3 seconds cooldown window where you cannot aggro again for 3 seconds
Oh fuck me I’ve thought of doing this but never tried cause I figured it wouldn’t work even though I know you can target cast spells there xD does that work offensively too? I know it works defensively. That’s fucking huge for hex and such against initiators
Question about offlane: Is it more important to farm your self or deny enemy carry farm? I find if I pull creep aggro and the enemy does as well, the creep wave gets pulled apart and I can't harass as a melee position 3. thanks.
If you can trade favorably then your job would be to prevent the enemy from pulling aggro away from you. If you are weaker then you would want to pull aggro away to avoid the enemy.
Are you kidding me???? I still moved the camera to another lane to click hero. Wtf!!! Ty so much for this
bUT u cant jst attack any enemy portrait , only the ones in vision like u do manually !!! cheers !!!
Dude... same... what the heck!
I saw watson did this in some of his videos
Me tooooo +1 sub for this dude man wth haha
Same here!! Didn't know about the avatar clicking option!!
Dude I never knew there is a 3 sec cd for aggroing creeps. I have always thought I am bad at aggroing creeps and didn't understand why sometimes they don't get aggro. Thank you so much.
You can abuse that too by r cliking enemy heroes as creeps wont attack you in those 3 sec.
YEP SAME HERE I DID NOT KNOW THAT
@@amitsrivastava0191 exactly!! I thought of the same thing. Like bruh how am I learning about such a vital information after fucking 10 years of dota and countless videos of tips and tricks that too in ancient-divine bracket
This means you were bad at creep aggroing
added info regarding portraits: not agro related, but in case you dont know, you can target allie portraits to cast friendly spells. Can be relevant as eg. Oracle, dazzle using glimmer cape, forcestaff etc. when a cluster is making targeting difficult.
You need to show how support can stop ruining by unintentional pulling creep when harrasing
Yeah this is a great suggestion
deaggro quick !!! or know ur range well b4 harassing ie positioning !!!
I’m only 6500 mmr but this is one of those things that got me out of legend rank. There is 2 really good ways and both should be used for maximum harassment without griefing the lane equilibrium. 1 if you press to attack an enemy from fog of war(in trees) it doesn’t matter how close you are to them you will not aggro them 2.play to the right or left of the lane instead of the back of it and start learning the exact range of the creeps aggro range
Also side note you can find out if your enemy has vision using the first trick (if the creeps get aggro to you when you are supposed to be in fog of war it means you aren’t in fog of war and the enemy has vision in the area :)
this is why core player like u need to always agro the creep not just afk and wait last hit
Finally someone covered the fundamental thing in lane creep control, and amazing one at that!
Creep aggro alone brought me from 2.8k to 3.5k and as well as Balloons' tips. Thank you so much.
thanks mate as a new player i got herald medal yesterday this mechanic will help me a lot great content
Man you're already learning such advanced concepts as a new player? You'll rank up in no time!
Been searching for a vid like this for a long time. Very clear and concise. Thanks good sir.
the 3 second cooldown is the really tricky aspect imo
Woah, didn't know you can click on the avatars for the global aggro. Mind=Blown.
never thought about attacking a portrait for global. thanks man
I remember having trouble with portrait agro method, at first I thought that I was doing something wrong then I tested it in lobby. Turned out that problem was with fast attack setting (attack upon pressing A without using mouse clicking), when it was turned on creeps just wouldn't agro from portraits. Valve already fixed it, but its too late now for me since I'm used to manually moving camera around the map for it, xD
Additional tip: You can abuse the aggro cooldown when using ranged heroes to harass your enemies. Simply attack enemies outside creep aggro then let your character follow the enemy and land the 1 or 2 auto attacks before de-aggroing your enemies. It will keep the lane stable while you're harassing the enemy and to keep yourself from taking creep damage. Also, some auto-cast spells don't trigger creep aggro when you manually target enemies such as Drow Q, Viper Q, OD Q, etc. BTW, great content man. Keep it up!
This made my lane stage so much easier, idk where I discovered this but it’s indeed very op
4:28 🤜🤛 love that trick
woah 20k hours in dota and i did not know about global aggro O_O its so broken wow!
A god amongst men, I didn’t know there was a creep aggro cool down. Thank you.
This is the first thing i tried when i learned about the update where you can click enemy icon to see their latest position and item, and i never use the old way (moving camera to other lane to aggro) ever since. A very broken QoL update indeed.
Hoooly god the amount of into!! and your teaching style is amazing!!
That's actually pretty useful, thanks!
This is the best video on Creep Aggro by far!
Balloon and his efficiency tips once again poggers
This is something I wouldn't see from other videos, and also something I will definitely use in a lot of my games
Thanks! I didn't know about using global agro to delay the death of the enemy wave.
I gain new knowledge about aggro today! Thanks for the input! Will apply it in game 🔥
Bro. Glad you’re more consistent with gem youtube content! ❤
I always wondered how teammates knew there were wards mid
Bro ur a legend man thanku for these stuff i have played dota for 3 years without even knowing these things😢
This is good info, it's something I don't use enough. But there was some other helpful information I didn't know about too, thankyou.
Saw your post on reddit, I thought I already knew most of the stuff here but It's always a welcome surprise to learn something you didn't know about!
The amount of times I moved my camera to other lanes to click on heroes to aggro creeps must be more than a hundred times, i even set up saved camera hotkeys xD
Your channel is a treasure trove for game mechanics, cheers!
(also, what app are you using to write on the screen? thanks!)
Hi, the app is called EpicPen.
Plz make avideo of tower mechanics how to not be targeted by tower etc..
Hi, this is explained in my mid tower diving video. Check that video out.
Those tips are key! Very good and direct tô the point!
I knew how to do global agro but I was not aware about cd in agro 😂😂😂😂
I use this, but clicked in other lane, thank you for this tip
i remember in dota 1 that you could aggro creeps with attacking your teammates
man, this vid is gold, GOOD JOB !
Question: When you agro creeps, do creeps first finish ongoing attack animation or they stop the attack (like when you issue a stop command on hero) and start chasing you as soon as you draw their agro?
thanks didnt know creep aggro have cd and you can aggro them if you are in there 500 range 😅 i just keep attack enemy hero until creep aggro me 😅
go for his coaching, worth it
Man we need more of tour videos 🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤
i only did this if play Axe and no hero appear on my screen to get free creep calls
I believe using skill on hero portrait will also work as well?
Yes, that's correct
can you do meepo pos 2 guide next?
Im so glad when he said global creep aggro and i do this already :D!
Nice mechanic to know! thanks!
this is gold, thanks a lot!
10+ years of dota. i learned this today
when i try to right click the portrait for global aggro, hero on walks
Thanks for sharing coach! ✨🙏💖😁✨
Very well made video 👏🏻
Brooooo Geat work!! Keep it up!!
fck. didnt realize that you can attack the hero portrait hahaha. big thanks to this video.
whenever i play axe and want to clear the wave fast, i dont want to use berserker call to aggro the creeps because of mana problems(before geting shroud). I usually click on the other side of the map with an enemy hero and attack him so the creeps will aggro me. Now i know i can just attack the portrait haha. Its easier and less work to do
I never know the 500 range tq
on your first 'real game' example with Axe. You pulled creeps without respecting the 3 second aggro cooldown. How does that work ?
Hi, I did not activate the cooldown here. I was just highlighting Huskar to emphasize the point, my aggro only started once I attacked his portrait.
Surprisingly good video
Surprisingly? He always makes good vidoes
Amazing video!
how you hero starts to get back before you clicked a mouse? I watching around 7:15 at 0.25 speed and cant determine...
Was using global agro for years tho
I just clicked really fast, no trick behind it.
Super helpful 🙏
Been known this for over 6 years now, anyone who doesn't know must be very new
seems like a nerf is coming. global cooldown is just too op
SO THATS HOW THE ENEMY CAN HARASS ME FOR FREE WITHOUT AGGROING MY CREEPS WTF literally 1st time hearing abt the 3s cooldown
HI there Are you a Malaysian or singaporean? anyway your video is good easily to understand clear explanation keep up the good work!
@@Lovegoldhair thanks bro, I'm malaysian
Awesome video! Thx man.
Thank you...❤
But sometimes agro doesn't work like, I A an enemy hero but the creeps doesn't follow me sometimes even tho I am at its range and it's on my attack range
@@ronvincentdaano7062 hey bro, that's because you probably accidentally issued an attack command or right clicked on an enemy hero while being outside of 500 aggro range, putting it on a 3 seconds cooldown window where you cannot aggro again for 3 seconds
@BalloonDota no I'm really near them and I attack one of the enemy hero but the agro doesn't work
@@ronvincentdaano7062 it is probably on cooldown
what the fuck now we could agro from potrait?, i remember the first blown up about this is NTS but its should not working right?
In my games I can;t itneract with enemy heroes portaits, outside of moving my cammera to theyr last perspective. What is the couse of that?
What the actual f.....just click the picture?ive been playing for 7 years
Your videos are gold
Good info bro
Oh fuck me I’ve thought of doing this but never tried cause I figured it wouldn’t work even though I know you can target cast spells there xD does that work offensively too? I know it works defensively. That’s fucking huge for hex and such against initiators
wow thank you
What a great video
When you click the portrait are you “a click attacking it” or just right clicking?
Right clicking doesn't work, you need to A + click
So that’s what I have been doing wrong! Thank you sir! 🫡
NICE VIDEO❤❤
aaaa!! what voodoo magic is this??? 😅
Question about offlane:
Is it more important to farm your self or deny enemy carry farm? I find if I pull creep aggro and the enemy does as well, the creep wave gets pulled apart and I can't harass as a melee position 3. thanks.
If you can trade favorably then your job would be to prevent the enemy from pulling aggro away from you. If you are weaker then you would want to pull aggro away to avoid the enemy.
Bro, dont teach this please. I have to be the only one using it.
Hi mr nothingtosay
These global aggroing is since dota 1 days who haven't know this?
People know it but don't use it enough or in the right manner. Knowing is one thing, executing and implementing is another.
Say it with me: /meh-ka-nik/