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Haha we all know that's not happening! 139Designs is already on it

I'm on the side of ride it hard once you know your systems are working properly...however that doesn't mean abuse it neglectfully. I generally do several heat cycles up to operating temp, cool down, repeat. Using that to bleed coolant and do basic system/fluid checks. Then I'll pretty much go straight to the field and do several back to back short/moderate duration heavy throttle pulls/runs. You need load at normal/operating temps to seat the rings. That doesn't mean you need to wring it's neck at redline for a long time, but you need to load the engine repeatedly without overheating things. I have never driven a new engine super easy, whether it's a brand new aftermarket engine or a new OEM unit. If you go way back in my videos, you'll see one of my 2019 Indy 850 with literally .5 miles on it racing my 2015 XRS the day I brought it home haha. I'll link a decent video below, the Total Seal channel and Lake Speed Jr have some awesome engine/oil videos with true data to back things up. th-cam.com/video/MhA_nVRhYew/w-d-xo.html

There we go! Ball end wobbly bit, that sounds right 🥴

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Indeed a full retune is required, the stock ecu/calibration has minimal correction ability for a major change like this. We’re using Will at Velocity Sled Performance for proper full recalibrations of the stock ecu’s.

Thank you for watching and supporting! It's awesome seeing the same folks commenting, it really means a lot 🙌

That we do! I'm trying to let the lawn recover a little bit from the BudgetBomber sleds tearing it up but it's getting hard to hold back

Unfortunately not yet! Last i checked in/heard i was told that it’s built and loaded on a trailer awaiting a driver to pick up the route. Hopefully i get the call soon as I need some time to get hands on it before snow flies!

Thank you for the good words and tuning back in often!

That's wild! Do you have any pictures of what that area looked like in the summer? Assuming you're talking about some of the service road type trails we were on, I've been through the town of Pittsburg in the summer a couple times haha

Hey Jeff, we ended up going with the shorter HNT134, which is an installed height of right around 1.44". I covered our final install process and all the associated clearances in this second video here: th-cam.com/video/QyyDraJzJns/w-d-xo.html Around the 6:45min mark is where all that info is. We had zero issues with this setup all season long and look forward to putting more miles on it this season as well!

If we're talking about just the 862 swap, the overall cost would be very similar between a 650 and 850. You would save some money not having to buy the 850 exhaust valves and your current gearing would most likely be fine whereas the 650's are geared a touch shorter. You're looking at $6k for the 862cc long block, you'll then need a 9R Y-pipe and main pipe (right around $1000 for new pieces). Clutching and tuning will put you close to another $1k. Stock muffler is just fine. You'll have misc small stuff in there too like new plugs, coolant, etc but those are easy pills to swallow after the big ticket stuff puts you around the $8-8500 mark playing it on the safe side/estimating a little high.

@ Thank you for responding. I’m on the fence about doing a 9R with my 850 but I was curious of the cost for the 862. Looks like snow this week up North!

The Jaws pipe hated the Diamond S can, the two really didn't work well together. Stock muffler the Jaws setup ran better, but ultimately it needed their tune and some clutching to wake up and be more what we were expecting. After that video I had a lot of conversations with people haha, we came to the conclusion that if you're coming from riding modified sleds and big power 4s stuff, the Comp isn't going to blow your socks off in stock form. If you're a rider who often leaves their stuff stock and decided to try the Comp from another 2s, you're gonna love the power difference.

@ awesome, thanks for the response. The plan was to run the Jaws pipe into stock muffler and run a Hot Rod Sled Shop tune with their clutching. Then I came across a few guys having issues with the Jaws pipe cutting power and it seemed to be that the Jaws likes 94-95 octane at least with the stock tune. Now I’m wondering if I should skip the pipe and just run a stage 1 or 2 tune in it.

We ended up dropping down to a 1.4x" region to play it super safe. I covered the clearances quite a bit better in this video here: th-cam.com/video/QyyDraJzJns/w-d-xo.html It is a bit tricky with some of the companies measuring differently! The 1.4x" height is super safe and seems to be the go to for most Comp owners. There's some running in the 1.5/1.6" range but they're often lighter and paying close attention to track tension along the way.

A tale as old as time really...I'm still bummed he ditched the original prototype

I still think they were hoping for a car or motorcycles they could wheel/roll out of there easily, we'll never know for sure. What I do know is I wont be staying there with the trailer again haha

Imagine how many dogs he could have fit in that thing!? We would have been all set for a trailside grilling!

Oh we'll have the 360 camera rolling alright! It was certainly a fun day down at Pat's shop haha

Hey bud, I don't have anything on any of my accounts! Can you double check it sent to MunsonMotorsports@gmail.com?

I'll try again 👍👍​@@MunsonMotorsports

@@youareright5431 I've still got nothing, what's your email? I'll try sending to you first haha

It's definitely getting there! Got a few small things left to wrap up but all in all we're just about ready!

I could certainly get you some measurements! I don't have them off hand but can get them soon. I've been debating having the mounting plates/templates made, but not sure if there's enough demand to warrant the time/expense.

Do you have a good email I could send you some measurements to? I still have my original templates so it's not too hard to get ya figures off of those.

I certainly can! Shoot me an email to MunsonMotorsports@gmail.com

I agree, I feel like we're in for a good winter too! Even if the snow isn't outrageous, the excitement to go ride again is certainly here!

Everyone's been swamped with wrapping up summer work that there honestly hasn't been much other tinkering...or they're using that as an excuse and actually doing some sneaky mods!

Thanks bud! It's turning out way better than I anticipated haha

Woaaaahhhh buddy's in the comments now!?

No issues on our end with it! The Diamond S muffler and the pipe didn't agree, stock muffler worked great.

@ appreciate the timely reply’. I have a High Elevation and Y for my 2019 850 and haven’t installed it yet and was wondering best most Trusted Rtv before tackling it’

@@mrmoparrr This is the stuff I use all the time. We've used it on turbo to manifold surfaces without gaskets before as well. www.permatex.com/products/oreilly/permatex-ultra-blue-rtv-3-5oz/

She sure is coming into it eh!?

@MunsonMotorsports I would say!!!!

Thank you for the good words! More Budget Bombers stuff on the way and some more in depth technical stuff coming in December!

I'm real curious to see how this one does. Whether or not the runners are the same length or similar to what's in the OEM airbox, i have no idea...but at least it'll be drawing fresh air now!

@ I imagine anything is better than the hot air intake. I know ideally the intake should be same lengths and bends for mated flow however idk if it would effect it much enough to matter. Idk if it’s in ur cheap sled budget but clutching which u know is so incredibly huge. And if u could track a aftermarket y pipe (don’t remember if it was stock) that would certainly not hurt hp. When I worked counter at D&D everyone wanted to make there stuff faster and louder and bigger and badder but the thing I stressed the most was harnessing the power and getting it transmitted to the ground efficiently and effectively. I like to use +1’mm rollers in primary just to help rotational mass and when my sled ingages which was around 32-3500 I could feel the difference immediately. Since having used them for first time last season I will never run a sled on stock rollers and ramps and weights. My little XRS gets the power to the ground quicker and hits harder then several other sleds I have lined up against on trails. So much that I could sell rollers out of my book bag if I had em with me . Unfortunately my custom clutching was done by someone who is no longer with us so the secrets died with him. But I really woulda liked to see someone on a rev NGL

It works pretty well once you get the technique sorted hahah...a fresh blade certainly goes a long way too 😆

Do you heat/keep the blade really hot when doing it that way?

@MunsonMotorsport no, it cuts like butter a little WD40

Thank you, I'm super happy with how it's turning out! now just gotta make sure it runs as good as it looks...

We'll see, this thing is pretty spiced up so hopefully it runs better than a stock one. Compression is through the roof on this one...