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Broodmoth sounds super sick!

Clav is cool but it’s almost a different deck

@ what u think anout vampiric tutor in this kinda deck?

It would be fine. Honestly demonic would be better aside from the theme lol

@@poppmagic haha yes, diabolic intent would fit perfect i think 👀

I run diabolic just because it’s a way cheaper alternative than demonic and the deck doesn’t care too much about killing off a 1/1, especially a free one lol

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My worry when I make decks with super unique commanders is “What happens if the commander isn’t around?” The deck could always be tweaked to protect him more or throw equipment on him, but putting all your eggs in one basket is risky

I’ll be honest there are not many changes to the deck that are crazy big. Maybe an extra tutor or swapping out chromatic orrey for frantic search. Combo is hard to make cuts because most pieces are there because they go infinite with one another, so decks rarely change much unfortunately

@@poppmagic do you have the decklist so I can use it to help me upgrade my 2016 Breya precon? 🙏🏽

@@inigougidos www.moxfield.com/decks/oMDvLncBpUGaLC9GRXqBFg completely updated for you!

super stoked you liked the video! How does the deck work out? I knopw some of the videos are good in therory but may not translate to actual good gameplay.

@@poppmagic gotta wait till i either buy in paper or i might just print it on regular paper to play with my friends see how it goes but ill lyk

Yeah the swords ___ and ___ are rough but still at worst, add the pro color protection and buff by +2, so still without the combat damage benefit, still are fine. The bones of the deck are still good aside from the "mistake" cards, which are still fine if the mindskinner is not of the field/dead/costs too much. Mindskinner aside, the deck still does need to function if the commander isnt playable.

yeah unfortunetly I am learing a lot of the stuff in the vid just doesnt really work rip

Haha you’re right! Didn’t even occur to me to put it on someone else’s thing!

Much appreciated! If you want me to do a specific commander, let me know!

@@poppmagic what’s your thought on valgavoth, terror eater? Would love to see your direction on him

@woopertrainer great card. Difficult commander. If I were to build him, I’d basically make mono black rare/mythic tribal with a small reanimation package. He is tricky because he costs 9 mana and is such a stand alone card

@@poppmagic I’ve been playing around with him and my focus is on life gain. Heavy on the ramp and mana rocks. I only really need to cast him once from the command zone and then I’ll bring him back from the graveyard. The earliest I’ve gotten him out is turn 4. What do you have in the works?

@@poppmagic also discard effects too.

Yeah but I still do like all the decks to be tournament legal just in case someone wants to bring theirs for prize play

@poppmagic thats fair enough i remember the time before the "outside of the game" was ruled as you can only look in your side board

@christophercombs7561 it took one time a buddy was told his wish didn’t work in an EDH tournament that functionally lost him the game for me to avoid them. Obviously do what is best for your playgroup, but my group tries to stick to tournament rules (outside of take backs lol)

@poppmagic my play group has very little in the way of rules generally

@christophercombs7561 yeah man everyone’s group is so different with what they do it’s important to just follow your own groups rather than stick to overarching rules

Thanks man I appreciate it! I’m actually making this list in paper right now. For your deck, I’d say it depends what you want to do. Meren is cool because she is hyper efficient at reanimating creatures. Winter is cool because he can reanimate anything, but at the loss of some cards. It depends what you want to bring back and what drawbacks you are okay with. Both are very good

@@poppmagic thanks a lot, I was thinking about "cheating" big creatures rather than resurrect the same small creatures.

@Yomolink I’d say meren is the better fit then. You kill off small guys like Sakura tribe elder and spore frog, get utility from cards like merciless executioner to then reanimate multiple times. Then late game you get back your big boys like titan of industry, sheoldred, etc

that sounds sound pretty neat. Just almost always flips right away

That could be neat. I guess it depends on the amount of low drops and if it would be better than token makes like glass cast heart

@poppmagic also I'd recommended gravepact, dictate of erebos and Butcher of malakir; forced sacrifice with Tokens is just cool plus add in a sac outlet and then you just make people mad 😆

@LyonHart18555 good include but I axed butcher because he was just too much mana and too easy to get rid of. Dictate and pact are better since its harder to pop enchantments, but a 7 mana guy is just too much

Didn’t think about exoskeleton lol that could be gross. I didn’t want to go too heavy into the equipment theme with her because if she dies, deck is just some weanies that can get some equipment where as I wanted to make sure that if she dies, it’s still boros tokens

Recon would be cool because you never get bad blocks. Norin is good too but just a bit awkward for the deck imo

Very good idea! Def a good include

Yeah my not-PC-recorded set up is not great. I try to look at the cards through the video, but sometimes it’s easier said than done lol

Holy shit you’re right. Oh no

Definiteoply good ideas. Boromir and Subira are good for the deck. I decided not to use them because I wanted to emphasize token makers rather than utility. The reanimate is good, but I try to stay away from that kind of play because it can go so wrong. For example, Arabell dies and I have suprise witness in my hand. I send her to grave. I try to reanimate and it gets countered, I am functionally out of the game until I draw another reanimate. It can be good for smaller dues, but I wanted to make sure the bones of token making was first and formost. Still, the cards you mentioned are all still good for the list.

@@poppmagic In that case, what about "Glimpse the Unthinkable"? It's a great way for this deck to create tokens in the early game, but also to refuel on an empty hand in the late game.

Also another great include. I tried to add a bunch of early draw cards like welcoming vamp and stuff to keep the draw consistent.

Thanks man lmao I play group slug with a different commander and it’s a blast

@@poppmagic deck work well? Damn i think I wanna build it haha

My deck is Mono red torbran. When it worked it works, but I need more card draw in the deck because when it doesn’t work, it feels bad to wait a turn and do like nothings Valgavoth is good because he help fix this by having built in draw

@@cRaZIe013 thanks man!

@@poppmagic Could you do an Ur-Dragon or Miirym Deck next?

@@cRaZIe013 yeah for sure!

It’s nice because most guys we play enter with a scion or more, so we can ramp and get more counters by getting a ton of colorless producing dudes

Ok so you actually pick. So RB is on field. MM enters. triggers both their ETB. so what you’d do is have MM’s fabricate trigger happen, making it a basically a 4/4, now RB triggers and sees it, giving it 4 more counters. So it’ll be a 1/3 either way 7 counters in it

@@poppmagic thank you

@@sable-eyesonixdragon8642 no worries man i appreciate you checking out the vid/channel!

Yeah that is a good idea. There is a good divide between the fun smart play, which is Jodah, and the silly play, which is door. I think it really depends how strong you want the deck to be

Huge point here!

Yeah you just exile 4 types and you pick one from the exile

​@@poppmagic no like if we manifest for example an artifact by zimone ability so are we able to flip it?

@@PhongNguyen-gs7od HAHa two of my youtube thumbnails look too similar. I thought this comment was from my Winter deck! Yeah if its a non creature permenant, you can flip it with zimones ability

So winter requires you exile 4 card types. Let’s say hypothetically, in the grave, you choose an artifact, an enchantment creature, and a land. You exile those three cards and since there were 4 card types, you can bring one back to the field. Say you bring back the enchantment creature, you lose the artifact and land essentially as the cost for the reanimation

No you can’t once you exile it as fodder for delirium, it’s gone. Luckily, you shouldn’t be losing too much since there are enchantment creatures and artifact lands, so in that case you would essentially only exile one card

Definitely great includes!

Cards is unreal. Man that’s the hard part of making decklist before the full set is released because right when they come out BOOM 5+ cards that should be added lol

@@poppmagic absolutely, and traverse the ulvenwald seems like a must have aswell

@frog4504 honestly that just seems alright. Sure delirium is cool but You’d probs just get better value from dig up imo

Thanks man I really do appreciate the sub! Glad to help! You’ll have to test the deck out and get back to me with what works and what doesn’t!

Arabella is more efficient that like fun I think. Ultimately, it’s just make tokens and swing, which is just most aggro lol

Sometimes mercy is good in commander when making deals or playing politics, but group slug is no mercy every time and killing or targeting the lowest life is always best

I actually got corrected when I tossed unstoppable slasher in my prerelease kit lol

As of right now just under $300 for that whole list

@@poppmagic ah okok thank you

All great ideas but you do need to be careful that if they aren’t given away, you aren’t just dead

@@poppmagic actually, these are even safer ones than those in video. Marauding Raptor can kill like two three creatures in this deck, in other cases it only discounts you creatures. But he should be gifted wisely, otherwise it will be only discounting creatures to opponent too without killing them Oni Possession and Cultist of the Absolute are the scariest two of this list, but if opponent wants to prevent you from gifting them to him, he kills Blim and they stop working at all. Fires of Invention is a really good card that you sometimes don't even want to give someone else, but control/storm players will be screwed by it. Ravenous Demon does nothing until you flip him, after you flip him it is probably too late for your opponent (though he can kill Blim in response and you will be stuck with Archdemon, this can be end) So these cards are not that bad if you fail to gift them, cards from video, like Nefarious Lich and Oath of Lim-Dul, are way worse.

Yeah very true I thought raptor was more lol. I might have to make a 2024 rendition of this decklist lol

@@poppmagic also consider Demonic Hordes to the list, this is one of the worst presents your opponent may get from Blim, and it also not that bad if you are stuck with it if your opponent killed Blim.

Demonic horde is sus because at worst case, you are paying 6 mana for an opponent to lose a land and that’s not a great rate. Or they could keep it for a turn and pop one of your lands and then they lose 3 mana and a land

That’s a good point I’m not 100%sure. Even without the rad counter win, milling a bit and tapping voidwalker just for the best think is still really good. Even if we are off the rad plan, we are still on the mill plan

Valgavoth is just hard to pronounce over and over. I tried and couldn’t do it

Yeah I’m trying to get the CMC lower, so it’s a good idea!

@@poppmagic I’d also recommend sticking with one strategy, I feel as though there are too many ideas at once going on. Edgar can be played in a lot of different ways, which is good, but I feel like the deck can be brought a step up with a goal in mind. For me personally I have two big win cons for Edgar, there is the combo of Bolas’s Citadel, Top, Aetherflux Combo, and there is the Mindcrank, Bloodchief Ascension Combo. However if either or doesn’t work, good ol smacking them in the head with your dudes is good too

I like to just make a lot of tokens and try to beat down

I like how many infinites you can do in vampires they all seem random and ppl don't know where to interrupt and cheeky things like giving Olivia a basilisk collar to maintain a strong cheap control of the board

@@_Tizoc_ its really hard to keep down too, even if you have board wipes, you can get stuff like teferi’s protection or lich knight’s conquest. I was thinking of putting in dawn’s truce in edgar too because it gives cheap indestructible and hexproof

i feel like portal to phyrexia is a no brainer in the deck. Invasions are nice just to hit delerium faster and add asome moderately good utility

That’s a really good idea!

Yeah that’s true. I like the idea of just losing your board to kill someone and it’s pretty achievable I think

@@poppmagic yes 100% if you can get a “each player sacs a creature” effect out, and sac 3 of your own 1/1 tokens you’ve got a 1 shot and you just took down 3 potential blockers.

@HollowdTV even going nuts with like KCI or ash or altar can be a nice easy kill

@@poppmagic ya i bought an ashnod's for my ygra last weekend. there's gotta be some crazy stuff you can do with like magnetic snuffler/rapacious guest/moonstone eulogist. basically you get 3 smaller ygra's all ramping alongside her. Eulogist gains you life each time too.

@HollowdTV that’s sick lol

thanks man!

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